1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: Who's the greatest of all time in boxing? Boxing? And 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:12,239 Speaker 1: what hey listen me no but with your chest? No? 3 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 2: I agree? I mean, like, do you so? Do you 4 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 2: get upset when they start throwing other names? And sometimes they'll. 5 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 3: Listen, I'm not being egotistical. Okay, they said they know 6 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 3: you know, they know you know if you put up 7 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 3: some statistic statistics or something at the world. I'm not 8 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 3: one guy. 9 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: Ten guys as the world. 10 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 2: Somebody give me your mount rushmore of boxing. 11 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 4: Top four and it's your fo the ones that you 12 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 4: respect the most. 13 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 1: Or do you want or no, I'm going to mond 14 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: for and check. 15 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 4: Can he put himself on it? 16 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 1: Or do you want to be different for that's Mike, 17 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: I'm not listed. 18 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 4: I'll leave form then damn quick Jack Dempsey, Sonny listen, 19 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 4: Muhammad Ali and George Foreman listen. 20 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 3: I'm gonna let you know. Sonny listens to bad right, 21 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 3: but a smart these guys. You know, these guys are 22 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,199 Speaker 3: bad guy. If you fighting man, the man that fights 23 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 3: you to end out smarted them. And that's why he 24 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 3: beat them. 25 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 4: He didn't beat him for such a good point because 26 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 4: Sonny Listen is known for the loss. But that loss 27 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 4: just shows you how important Sonny Listen was, because that's 28 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 4: what launched Muhammad Ali for so much. 29 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 3: Listen, Sonny Listen is the scariest fighting to ever lives. 30 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 4: Well, please tell me why because I don't know too. 31 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 3: Because Sonny Listen, Sonny Listen would come to a town 32 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 3: they say they in Saint Louis, and he comes to Chicago. 33 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 3: The cops be this, you can't come. He knocked out 34 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 3: around four cops, broke the jaw, took their gun. They 35 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 3: were beating him with. 36 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: The dice, nightstick break over his head. 37 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 4: So when a boxer would come to town, he would really 38 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 4: fight the entire town and then leave. 39 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: No, not a boxer. 40 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no fighter likes Soney listening. 41 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: Listen is a mom. Who's your mount rushmant boxing? 42 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 4: Al Lee is definitely on there. I'm from the Philadelphia area, 43 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 4: so putting Joe Frasier on there, Mike Tyson is on there, 44 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 4: and I've always had a soft spot for Roy Jones Jr. 45 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, Mine's is Mike Muhammad Roy and I'm gonna have 46 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 2: to put Floyd on there. 47 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: I don't know why I forgot Floyd. 48 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 3: That's good too, That's a good one too. I'm going 49 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 3: with heavyweight right, Yes. 50 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, Floyd feels like a different category completely. 51 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 3: He made heavyweight money, but I'm talking about the heavyweight study. 52 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 1: Yes, I don't know. 53 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 4: Well, forever going to get to the heavyweights again. 54 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 3: No, it's gonna come back again, always come back. 55 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 2: Speaking of Floyd, him and Roy Jones been going back 56 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 2: and fourth. If they were to fight, give me your 57 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 2: give me your opinion on who you think would win 58 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 2: and why and what people want to say see that fight. 59 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 3: Now, Well, listen, people are all gonna hate on Floyd, 60 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 3: so they will want to see the fight. 61 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: They want to see Floyd get beat. But are they 62 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 1: going to fight? I know, I know they're going back 63 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: and forth. I don't know. Yeah, I don't think they were. 64 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 3: Man, if he wants to make some money, Floy wanna 65 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 3: make some money, he wants to make some money. He 66 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 3: could fight your guy, Jake Paul him too, But he 67 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 3: can fight the one, the guy and that many pack man. 68 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 3: He won't fight him again. But I'm talking about not 69 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 3: Can Crawford. Oh, Terrence Crawford. You don't want those problems. 70 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: But if you want money, you know, you. 71 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 2: Know, I get criticized a lot for hating on the 72 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 2: younger generation of basketball players. Do you feel about the 73 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 2: younger generation of boxing the same way I feel about 74 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 2: the younger generation basketball players? 75 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: Listen. 76 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 3: My only problem with the generation now they take too 77 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 3: long to fight. 78 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: I fight you, and now I'm gonna fight you next 79 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: year and next year. I had ten fights. 80 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know it felt like once a month if 81 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 4: we were watching you walk out. 82 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: To the ring. 83 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 3: That's that's entertainment, you know when when you're a great fighter, 84 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,839 Speaker 3: a great entertainment in general, you want the person to say, 85 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 3: when do I see that person again? When's he gonna 86 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 3: play again? When's he gonna fight again? No, you got 87 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 3: to be able. If you can't put the seat, you're 88 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 3: want to get fired. You know about putting the seat, 89 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 3: saying whatever, doing whatever, pulling a plug out, whatever, you. 90 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: Get them there, Shack. 91 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 4: I wanted to ask him about the walk because now 92 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 4: that I didn't even put two and two together. So 93 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,119 Speaker 4: when you were at the anthem and you were trying 94 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 4: to look into people's souls, that was your Mike Tyson, 95 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 4: let me scare them. It was like when we would 96 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 4: watch you walk to the ring, for us, we're going 97 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 4: this is about to be incredible. What were you thinking 98 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 4: on that walk. I've always wondered, were you going over 99 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 4: the game plan? Were you trying to intimidate? What were 100 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 4: you thinking on that walk? 101 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 1: The fight? You know, I never tried to. 102 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 3: Idea of intimidating somebody's hitting them. 103 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: You know, fight is. 104 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 3: Pressure, right, pressure is not being hit. You know, everybody 105 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 3: being prescious, like getting on standing on pressures the thought 106 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 3: of being hit, and that's how they fall. 107 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 1: And I'm not hitting that had but they think of you, right, 108 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: So you're all psychological? 109 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 4: Are you when you're walking to the ring, are you 110 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 4: noticing anything? 111 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: Or are you so locked in? 112 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 3: I see everything moving, every person. 113 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: Every girl. 114 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 4: Dude, your walkings would last longer than the fights sometimes. 115 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 3: Do anyone have a nap? Him on my towels and 116 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 3: I'm sweating like a pit on one. 117 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: Hole up will get you? Thank you? You're sweating like 118 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: Charles Barkley spelling be Yeah, I'm gonna be slating pretty hard. 119 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 2: Too, exactly. So, Mike, you we all know you you 120 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 2: hit hard. Who was the first person that when they 121 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 2: hit you you was like, oh okay, this guy hits 122 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 2: pretty hard. 123 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: Man. Listen, that happened when I was hit. Let me 124 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: shout out to beat box for the towel. Yeah, it's delicious. 125 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 4: Hopefully I don't have too much during the show. 126 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 3: It's a lot of hard punches out the gotta taking punches. 127 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 3: That's psychologically everything is like move the Micael Sorry. 128 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 2: Psychologically, So you said so you're saying Razo Ritic Bow holding. 129 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 130 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 3: Not I didn't fight Rid Bow. But there's a lot 131 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 3: of hinting any all those guys. The hard punches, but 132 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 3: the purposes. They can't mand the punch, you know, I know, 133 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 3: I know you look at me and you see me, 134 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 3: but I don't get hit much. You know, when I 135 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 3: was at my prime. That was the whole objective, you know, 136 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 3: you know coming up, everyone was a fan. When you 137 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 3: took that first defeat, I was sick. Were you upset? 138 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 3: Were you sick? 139 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: I was where you depressed. 140 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 3: He liberated. Pretty crappy that happened. That's because I know 141 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 3: it will be championing, but I. 142 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: I was just happy that happened. Mhm was the end 143 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: of the world. Right, I've never heard you talk about 144 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:07,559 Speaker 1: Mitch Green. 145 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 2: Wow, tell me something about Mitch Green. 146 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 3: Mitch Green's a fighter, slash junkie, slash stick up kid. 147 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 3: And I heard he's born again Christian now, so listen. 148 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 3: Mitch Green is the. 149 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: Kind of guy. 150 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 3: He's a professional fighter, good fighter too, but he's the 151 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 3: kind of guy. 152 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: Oh, you gotta hit it. 153 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 3: He would go in the gas station, tie the gas 154 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 3: station guy up and start pumping gas. Ain't getting the money, 155 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 3: taking the money, And that's the kind of guy. Miss 156 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 3: Green is man touch a total bully. Not I don't 157 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 3: know about now, but he's touching a total bully back there. 158 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 3: That's why I had to kick it. I thought he 159 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 3: was trying to go in my pocket. 160 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 4: Oh not in the ring in real life, yeah, in real. 161 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 3: Life, come up too, because he tried he was trying 162 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 3: to play me because I was in the holler. I'm high, 163 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 3: I'm by myself right, and I'm around right, so he 164 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 3: must have thought I'm some pump or he didn't know. 165 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: No, I picked it as. 166 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 3: Before, but he thought he didn't normal street, so he 167 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 3: mean that he bought me scared of him, So he 168 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 3: thought I was gonna be scared of him in the street. 169 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 3: And oh man, I didn't want to say it, man. 170 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, he didn't want to say it. 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