1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:01,240 Speaker 1: Welcome. 2 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 2: It is Verdict with Center Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you, 3 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 2: and if you're listening to us on radio stations across 4 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 2: the country, it's so nice to have you with us. Reminder, 5 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 2: if you're listening to this radio show, it's a podcast 6 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 2: that we do three days a week, So download Verdict 7 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 2: with Ted Cruz wherever you get your podcasts centat. We've 8 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 2: got a lot to talk about on today's show, especially 9 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 2: in light of these most recent terrorist attacks happening right 10 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 2: here in the United States of America. 11 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 3: Well, Ben, you're right, we're sitting here today in an 12 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 3: extraordinarily dangerous time. In the last ten days, we've had 13 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 3: four separate terror attacks, all carried out by radical Islamic terrorists, 14 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 3: all targeting Americans, seeking to kill Americans, and all at 15 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 3: a time when there's a military conflict in the Middle 16 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 3: East that is unfolding as we speak, and when we 17 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:53,959 Speaker 3: have multiple radical Islamic clerics who've issued fatwaws calling on 18 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 3: terrorists to murder Americans. Understand that we went through four 19 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 3: years of Joe Biden with a why open border. Twelve 20 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 3: million illegal immigrants came into this country, including thousands of terrorists. 21 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 3: We had four years of basically a red carpet inviting 22 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 3: Hamas terrorists, inviting Hesbalat terrorists, inviting Iranian terrorists come to America. 23 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 3: And we've now seen in less than two weeks, four 24 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 3: separate terror attacks. And I'll tell you that the part 25 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 3: of this that just makes your brain explode is the 26 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 3: Democrats in the Senate keep voting over and over and 27 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 3: over again to defund the Department of Homeland Security. Now, now, 28 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,119 Speaker 3: what is the Department of Homeland Security? DHS was created 29 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 3: after September eleventh, and the entire purpose of DHS is 30 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 3: to prevent terrorist attacks, and the Democrats keep voting over 31 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 3: and over and over again not to pay the people 32 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 3: at DHS to defund it. This is dangerous, and Ben, 33 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 3: I want to be very serious. I am deeply concerned 34 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 3: that we could be on the precipice of a major 35 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 3: terrorist attack. Not a terrorist attack that kills one, two, 36 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 3: or three people, but a terrorist attack that kills hundreds 37 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 3: or even thousands of people. And the agency whose responsibility 38 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 3: day in and day out is stop the terrorists before 39 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 3: they kill Americans, the Democrats have defunded. The media is 40 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 3: ignoring it, and the Democrats have said they feel quote 41 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 3: unquote serene about shutting down the Department of Homeland Security, 42 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 3: even in this greatly heightened threat environment. 43 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 2: Having just come back from Israel, I want to paint 44 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 2: you a picture. It's midnight, sirens are blaring, and you 45 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 2: have only seconds to grab your child and run. 46 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: Now imagine your elderly. Your legs don't work like they 47 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: used to. 48 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 2: Getting downstairs feels impossible, and after all of that, you 49 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 2: end up in a bomb shelter for hours, even days, 50 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 2: because you can't make the trek again. This is what's 51 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 2: happening across Israel as Operation Epic Fury continues. Children are 52 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 2: being traumatized, families are just exhausted, and homes have been destroyed. 53 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 2: And that's why the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews 54 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 2: is there on the ground, bringing food, emergency equipment, care 55 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 2: for those children, and help for the elderly, and supplying 56 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 2: the bomb shelters and medical centers for critically needed essentials. 57 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,239 Speaker 2: If you've ever wondered what it looks like to stand 58 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 2: for Israel and stand for good against evil, this is it. 59 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 2: And that's why I'm asking to now please act, give 60 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 2: forty five dollars right now to rush life saving essentials 61 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 2: to the vulnerables under fire. You can also call eight 62 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 2: eight eight for eight eight IFCJ. That's eight eight eight 63 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 2: for eight eight IFCJ. Join me and give and make 64 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 2: a real difference online at IFCJ dot org. 65 00:03:58,520 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: That's IFCJ. 66 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 2: Senator, you mentioned that they seem to have no problem 67 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 2: shutting down specifically the Department of Home and Security. We're 68 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 2: talking about the Democrats here. I want you to walk 69 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 2: us through what it was like on Thursday, because just 70 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 2: my gut instinct was before you guys left town for 71 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 2: the week of work that was done, they would be 72 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 2: sensible enough seeing these attacks to say we've got it, 73 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 2: We've got we can't have this political liability on us. 74 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 2: It's going to come back on us if there is 75 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 2: a major tears attack because we're the ones that have 76 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 2: shut down the Department of Home Security. Were any of 77 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 2: your colleagues willing to share that with their other colleagues 78 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 2: on the Democratic side the aisle like, hey, guys, this 79 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 2: is a bad look. We do not need to be 80 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 2: playing this political game right now. 81 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 3: Look if they are, I don't see it at all. 82 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 3: We voted again on Thursday to fund the Department of 83 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 3: Homeland Security. Every Republican voted to fund DHS. Every single 84 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 3: Democrat except John Fetterman once again voted no. Shut down DHS. 85 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 3: And understand by the way they claim they're doing it 86 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 3: because they hate ICE. Yeah, because they want reforms and ICE. 87 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 3: Here's the amazing thing. Do you know what, they haven't 88 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 3: defunded ICE. 89 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. 90 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 3: ICE is actually funded because when we took up the 91 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 3: working famili's tax cut last year, the big reconciliation bill, 92 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 3: we knew the Democrats were going to be open border radicals, 93 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 3: and so we funded ICE through through the year. So 94 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 3: ICE is fully funded. Like all of their antics are 95 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 3: not taking a penny from ICE agents. Ice is fully funded. 96 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 3: So they are shutting down the remainder of DHS. They're 97 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 3: shutting down the Coast Guard and not paying Coastguard men 98 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 3: and women that they're shutting down TSA look. We are 99 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 3: seeing lines at airports. Houston Hobby Airport last week there 100 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 3: were lines four hours long people heading out to spring break. 101 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 3: Can you imagine how pissed off you'd be you take 102 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 3: your family to the airport, your kids are there. Let's 103 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 3: say you're super super uptight. You get to the airport 104 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 3: an hour and a half ahead of time. You should 105 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 3: be there an hour ahead of time, but you're really uptight. 106 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 3: You're there an hour and a half ahead of time, 107 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 3: and you miss your plane by two and a half 108 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 3: hours because the TSA line is four hours. Look, i'll 109 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 3: tell you what I go through. And I'm on a 110 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 3: plane every week, multiple times a week. As I go 111 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 3: through and see the TSA agents, I'm trying to make 112 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 3: it a point to stop. I do this regularly anyway, 113 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 3: but especially now to say to them, thank you. Yeah, 114 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 3: And I gotta say, those men and women are coming 115 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 3: into work with no paycheck. And by the way, look, 116 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 3: TSA agents are not rich. No, many of them are 117 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 3: living paycheck to paycheck. You know what hasn't come their paycheck, 118 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 3: and so a bunch. 119 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 2: Of that, a lot of them is uber and lyft 120 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 2: drivers and other part time jobs because they need their cash. 121 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 3: And at some points we're gonna see more and more 122 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 3: of them say all right, this job is not for me. 123 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 3: I can't be in a job that doesn't pay a paycheck. 124 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 3: I'm done. And that is happening. So you've got TSA 125 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 3: agents not being paid, Coast guardsmen not being paid, FEMA officials, 126 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 3: those in charge of dealing with natural disasters not being paid. 127 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 3: And then thousands of just employees at the Department of 128 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 3: Homeland Security, employees charge with monitoring terrorists, with stopping terrorist attacks, 129 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 3: and the Democrats are are not only not paying them. 130 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 3: I want to quote Brian Shotts. Brian shots is a 131 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 3: Democrat from Hawaii. He is widely seen as the Democrat 132 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 3: leader in waiting. I think Chuck Schumer cannot win another election. 133 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 3: The Democrats will primary him, either AOC or Mandami will 134 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 3: beat him in a primary. In fact, I think Schumer 135 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 3: won't even run. Brian Schotz has seen as the next 136 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 3: Democrat leader. Let me give you shots this quote this 137 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 3: week he said Democrats are quote very serene with what 138 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 3: is going on concerning DHS. Why cause the media won't 139 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 3: hold them to account, so they don't mind shutting down 140 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 3: the agency stopping terror attacks even after we've had four 141 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 3: radical Islamic terror attacks in ten days. 142 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 2: Center One of the things that I think it's important 143 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 2: that we go back and give a stat to and 144 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 2: I was looking this up earlier, but when Donald Trump 145 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 2: became president in twenty seventeen, you had two people on 146 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 2: the terrorists watch list that came across the Southern board 147 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 2: that we caught. Now we don't know how many got 148 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 2: across that we didn't catch Godaways. In twenty eighteen there 149 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 2: were six, and twenty nineteen apparently there was zero. 150 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: In twenty twenty there was three. 151 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 2: Now you look at those numbers, that's pretty good when 152 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 2: it comes to board security. We watched when Biden came 153 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 2: in office twenty or fifteen in twenty twenty one, then 154 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 2: it skyrocketed to ninety eight in twenty twenty two, one 155 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 2: hundred and sixty nine and twenty twenty three, and then 156 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 2: well over one hundred counters in twenty twenty four. I 157 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 2: give that number because this goes back to the terrorist 158 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 2: threat we have. Now there's concerns of sleeper sales, there's 159 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 2: concerns the people that came across the southern border that 160 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 2: were terrorists. They're on the terrorists watch lists that were 161 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 2: never caught there, the god Aways. But what we do 162 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 2: know is when they open the southern border and let 163 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 2: anyone come in. I go back to that famous moment 164 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 2: in video where that forkliff lifted up the bob wire 165 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 2: and the fencing in Texas and we saw all of 166 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 2: those people come across the border. The federal government did that, 167 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 2: and now we're faced with all these terrorist attacks, and 168 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 2: there's terror there's Americans that are concerned just like me. 169 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: Who's in this country that we don't know about? 170 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 3: Look Ben for good reason. And by the way, those 171 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 3: numbers vastly underestimated because they do not include the roughly 172 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 3: two million what are called god aways that enter under 173 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,439 Speaker 3: the Biden administration. The god aways are the people that 174 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 3: we saw signs they were there, but border patrol did 175 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,079 Speaker 3: not encounter them, and so we don't know the details. 176 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 3: And the god aways are much much more likely to 177 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 3: be criminals. They're much more likely to be murderers or 178 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 3: rapists or child molesters, and they're much more likely to 179 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 3: be terrorists. During the Biden administration, CBP issued a warning 180 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 3: to its agents beyond the Guard for Hamas terrorist Hesbala terrist, 181 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 3: Palestinian Islamic Jehad terrorists, and yet they continued these open 182 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 3: border policies. And understand, the open border policies were a choice. 183 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 3: We now know that for a fact, although regular listeners 184 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 3: of a verdict knew that at the time. How do 185 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 3: we know that because the insidant Donald Trump came back 186 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 3: into office, the illegal border crossings dropped ninety nine percent. 187 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 3: Joe Biden the Democrats said, gosh, we got to pass 188 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 3: different legislation. No, no, you didn't. You just needed to 189 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 3: have a president who would follow the law, who would 190 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 3: actually enforce the law. And I want to break down 191 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 3: the four terror attacks because they all have similarities. They 192 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 3: were carried out by radical Islamic terrorists. They were targeting Americans. 193 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 3: It started in Austin, Texas, with a legal immigrant who 194 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:56,319 Speaker 3: had come to the United States who showed up in 195 00:10:56,400 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 3: Austin wearing a shirt that a sweatshirt that said property 196 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 3: of Allah, wearing a shirt underneath it with an Iranian flag, 197 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 3: had Koran in his car and with a rifle and pistol. 198 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 3: He just opened fire randomly at people in a bar 199 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 3: at two am in Austin on Sixth Street. That was 200 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 3: the first terror attack we saw a week and a 201 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 3: half ago. The second terror attack we saw was two 202 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 3: Muslim teenagers from Pennsylvania who came to New York. Came 203 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 3: to New York with homemade bombs. They said that they 204 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 3: were inspired by ISIS. They threw those bombs outside at 205 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 3: a protest that was happening outside Marimondami's residence. The bombs 206 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,719 Speaker 3: were filled with nails and screws and bolts. They were 207 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 3: designed to be anti personnel bombs. Fortunately, these terrorists were 208 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 3: not very smart terrorists. They didn't know how to make 209 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 3: a bomb that actually went off, so the bombs they 210 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 3: threw did not explode. But they told law enforcement that 211 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 3: there was to kill more people than the Boston marathon 212 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 3: bomber had killed. They said they only killed three people, 213 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 3: and these guys wanted to kill a lot more. And 214 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 3: then we saw, just in the last couple of days, 215 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 3: we saw the deranged radical Islamic terrorist who drove his 216 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 3: vehicle into a Michigan synagogue. And that synagogue, understand, was 217 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 3: a preschool and school. There were one hundred and forty 218 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 3: kids right there next to where he came in. And 219 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 3: if you didn't have a brave security guard that took 220 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 3: out took out the deranged terrorist, you could have had 221 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 3: one hundred and more kids killed. And then you had 222 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 3: an old dominion on other deranged terrorists. And to be clear, 223 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 3: this terrorist had been imprisoned, yes, for giving material support 224 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 3: to ISIS, and yet he was released from federal prison 225 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:54,839 Speaker 3: under Joe Biden. Let me give you a little bit 226 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 3: of the background on the Old Dominion terrorist. He was 227 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 3: born and see earle one. He became a naturalized US citizen. 228 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 3: He was radicalized by al Kaita. He was convicted for 229 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 3: providing material support to ISIS. He was sentenced to eleven 230 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 3: years in prison, and then he was released from prison 231 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 3: early under Joe Biden. And he walked into an Old 232 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 3: Dominion classroom and he asked the people there, He said, hey, 233 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 3: are y'all Rotzi he was looking for, in particular US 234 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 3: military to murder. They said yes, and he opened fire. 235 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 3: And just like what happened in Michigan, you had a 236 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 3: Rozzi student who stood up and stabbed him, had a 237 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 3: knife on him, stabbed him and took him out. Many 238 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 3: more students and or Rotzi soon to be soldiers, could 239 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 3: have been murdered if you had not had one brave 240 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 3: student step up and stop him. All three of these, 241 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 3: all four of these rather share striking patterns. And this 242 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 3: is exactly what DHA is designed to stop. 243 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you will get DHS and I go 244 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 2: back to this funding fight. How long is it going 245 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 2: to take for Democrats to get their head out of 246 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 2: their abs on this one. And I say this with fear. Senator, 247 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 2: I want to be very clear about that. Does it 248 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 2: take a tragic, bigger event, yes, for them to then 249 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 2: wake up and say, okay, because you've had four in 250 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 2: a week and a half, and that didn't shake them 251 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 2: to do the right thing on Thursday, all because they're 252 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 2: obsessed with going against ICE and you said it earlier. 253 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 2: ICE has already been fully funded for the year, So 254 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 2: that's not what they're actually doing here. It's almost as if, 255 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 2: I mean, at this point, I'm like, are you guys 256 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 2: helping the terrorists more than the American people be safe? 257 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: I look at and say, yes, that's what you're doing. 258 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: You're helping them. 259 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 3: Ben, let me tell you why they feel serene. They 260 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 3: feel serene because nobody holds them to account. They feel 261 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 3: serene because number one, they're left wing activists, don't care. 262 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 3: They live in a bubble where everything is orange man bad, 263 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 3: everything is attacking Trump. But number two, the press is 264 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 3: fundamentally broken. The reason the Democrats are to use their 265 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 3: own words, serene is they know, no matter how many 266 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 3: terror attacks occur while they've shut down DHS, the press 267 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 3: will never hold them to account. So For example, here's 268 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 3: what CNN tweeted out about the two terrorists who through 269 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 3: bombs in New York City seeking to kill as many 270 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 3: people as possible. CNN tweeted out the following quote. Two 271 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 3: Pennsylvania teenagers crossed into New York City Saturday morning for 272 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 3: what could have been a normal day, enjoying the city 273 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 3: during abnormally warm weather. But in less than an hour, 274 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 3: their lives would dramatic, drastically change, as the pair would 275 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 3: be arrested for throwing homemade bombs during an anti Muslim 276 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 3: protest outside Mayor Zooran Mandami's home. 277 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 2: That's ridiculous with Senator, we're talking about these terroist tax 278 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 2: and I want to go back to the DHS funding 279 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 2: aspect of this, and you mentioned it before the break 280 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 2: moment ago, the Department of Home Land Security not being 281 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 2: funded and these four terist attacks in a normal world 282 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 2: with the normal media would be front page news and 283 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 2: they'd be running up and they'd be sticking a microphone 284 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 2: in front of the face of the people that voted 285 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 2: no to funding DHS. I go back to the media 286 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 2: when they were obsessed with the price of eggs, remember, 287 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 2: and they were trying to say that with somehow Donald 288 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 2: Trump's fault of the egg prices were high. They went 289 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 2: like twenty four to seven coverage on that over eggs. 290 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 2: But on this issue they're completely gone from covering it 291 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 2: and holding accountable the Democratic leadership, Like, how are you 292 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 2: guys holding this up? There are dead Americans and that's 293 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 2: not sensationalizing that as a fact. There are dead Americans 294 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 2: and terrorist attacks, and you guys have unfunded the department 295 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 2: that is supposed to be doing this, in charge of 296 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 2: it helping with US aiding with this. Why on earth 297 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 2: are you doing this to Americans? Not a single journalist 298 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 2: at any of the major networks. God in the face 299 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 2: of anyone that was leaving town on Thursday from DC 300 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 2: after yet again voting no to funding DHS. 301 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, the Democrats, it is hard to overstate how little 302 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:15,719 Speaker 3: they're concerned. Look, I think they could leave DHS defunded 303 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 3: for the rest of the year. I mean, I mean, 304 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 3: that's really how bad it is. They're not concerned at all. 305 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 3: They don't care about the people whose lives they're ruining. 306 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:25,360 Speaker 3: They don't care about the people who can't pay their 307 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,360 Speaker 3: rent or can't feed their kids, And they don't care 308 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 3: about leaving US exposed to a massive terrorist attack, and 309 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 3: that seems harsh. I don't like saying they don't care 310 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 3: about it because but give me an alternative explanation. And 311 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 3: I think the media plays a huge part in it 312 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 3: because they believe there is zero cost, so they're appeasing 313 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 3: their radical base. So look the CNN tweet that I 314 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 3: read just a minute ago describing the two Isis inspired 315 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 3: terrorists as just two Pennsylvania teenagers that could have had 316 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 3: a normal day enjoying the war weather. Yeah, like that. 317 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 3: That was so ridiculous. They deleted that tweet. But but 318 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 3: but I also want to play what what Abby Phillips, 319 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 3: who you know you've been on her show with her? 320 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 3: What she said about this? Because it shows shows just 321 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 3: the mindset of CNN. Here give a listen to how 322 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 3: she described Abby Phillips, who you know you've been on 323 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 3: her show with her? What she said about this, because 324 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 3: it shows shows just the mindset of CNN. Here, give 325 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 3: a listen to how she described. 326 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 4: Two Republicans say Muslims don't belong here after an attempted 327 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 4: terror attack against New York's Mayor Zorn Mamdani and the 328 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 4: House Speaker Mike Johnson says nothing really to condemn those comments. 329 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 2: That is shocking that she said that, and and it 330 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 2: did backfire as you described it, because she had to 331 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 2: come out finer and then apologize on this one or retracted. 332 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 2: And this is how her retraction, by the way, the 333 00:18:58,200 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 2: next night. 334 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 1: Take a listen this morning. 335 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 4: I issued a correction first thing in the morning on 336 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 4: X for a mistake that I made in last night's show, 337 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 4: but I also wanted to do so on air as well. 338 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,640 Speaker 4: I incorrectly said that the bombs that were thrown by 339 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 4: Isis inspired suspects in New York over the weekend were 340 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 4: directed at Mayor Mom Donnie. 341 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: They were not. 342 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,919 Speaker 4: I failed to catch and correct that mistake in real time, 343 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 4: and I take full responsibility for that. And while we 344 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 4: do make mistakes, it is important to acknowledge and correct 345 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 4: those errors when they happen. 346 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 2: Senator, I appreciate when there's a correction, but there was 347 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 2: a lot of people online that were actually frustrated with 348 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 2: a correction because what Abby was doing was acting like 349 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 2: she didn't correct somebody that said something on her show 350 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 2: in real time, and there was a lot of people 351 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 2: going like, you're the one that said it. Don't act 352 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 2: like someone else said it. You're the one that has 353 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 2: to correct your own. No information you put out there 354 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 2: that was incorrect. It wasn't a guest on your show 355 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 2: that you failed to correct what they said. 356 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, and Ben, I don't care about her, She's she's 357 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 3: a leftist quack. What I do care about is the 358 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 3: failure of supposedly journalistic outlets to actually do journalism. They 359 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 3: are propagandists. The mistake she made was not random. It 360 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 3: was just not oops, I said green, I meant red. 361 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 3: It is consistently skewing in a way. That Number one, 362 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 3: she's not identifying that the terrorists in question were radical 363 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 3: Islamic terrorists. Number two, she's claiming the target, or what 364 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 3: she claimed the target, was Mandami. The target was not Mondami. 365 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 3: In fact, there was a protest against Mondami and the 366 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 3: radical Islamic terrorists tried to throw the bombs at the 367 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 3: protesters who were opposing Mandami. And if you look at 368 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,719 Speaker 3: her whole story, it wasn't even on the terror attack. 369 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:51,360 Speaker 3: It was on and Republicans criticized Muslims. And oddly enough, 370 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 3: there's not outrage that Republicans criticized Muslims. It reminds me 371 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 3: of that. So there's a classic tweet that Norm MacDonald, 372 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 3: the great SNL comedian said, And his tweet, he said, 373 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 3: what terrifies me is if ISIS were to detonate a 374 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 3: nuclear device and kill fifty million Americans, imagine the backlash 375 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 3: against peaceful Muslims. Like that was Norm MacDonald's tweet years ago, 376 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 3: and that was CNN, Like ISIS terrorists try to kill 377 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 3: a lot of Americans. Can you believe how upset people 378 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 3: are with Muslims? Like cover the damn news, cover the facts. 379 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 3: By the way, you look at Bondami's statement after that 380 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 3: terror attack, he didn't identify the two criminals. He didn't 381 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 3: mention they were radical Islamic terrorists, he didn't mention they 382 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 3: were affiliated with ISIS. Instead he blamed the guy who 383 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 3: was protesting against him, who was intended to be the 384 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 3: target of the bombs. When the media is this wildly dishonest, 385 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 3: it has real consequences. And so yes, those are two 386 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 3: instances on this terror attack where CNN had a correc 387 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 3: themselves because they were so absurd. But I ask you, 388 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 3: I mean you mentioned before, I have not seen a 389 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 3: single one of my Democrat colleagues asked by any reporter, 390 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 3: how can you justify not funding the Department of Homeland 391 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 3: Security when we've had four terror attacks from radical Islamic 392 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:23,199 Speaker 3: terrorists in ten days and we have radical clerics calling 393 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 3: for more. 394 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, by the way, it's journalism, one on one. Every 395 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 2: journalist out there knows that's the question. You should ask 396 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 2: centers on the way to the airport as you're walking 397 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 2: out of their office, as they're at the airport wedding. 398 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: Like this is just basic journalism. 399 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 2: If you have terrorist attacks and you've voted to not 400 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 2: fund the Department of ho Indseecurity, there should be and 401 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 2: traditionally there would have been hell to pay on that one. 402 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 2: I also go back to the part you're talking about 403 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 2: with this whole like cleansing of oh, like, let's not 404 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 2: act like this is mugelm extremists. I put out a 405 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 2: list of just like the history and the past that 406 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 2: we've dealt with with with radical Muslims. The shoe bomber Muslim, 407 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 2: Orlando attack Muslim, the Beltway Sniper's Muslim, the Fort hoodshooter Muslim, 408 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 2: the underwear bomber Muslim, the Westminster Tech Muslim, the oh 409 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 2: Five Bali bombings, Muslim the murder of. 410 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 3: Lee Ben and Ben Ben let me jump in. Look, 411 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 3: you are right, but I want to draw a distinction 412 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 3: because there are more than a billion Muslims across the globe, 413 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 3: and there are hundreds of millions of Muslims who are 414 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 3: in fact peaceful and in fact, you're going to look 415 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 3: at different different regions of the world. If you look 416 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 3: at at a country like India, India has millions and 417 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 3: millions of Muslims and it has very little problem with 418 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,360 Speaker 3: radical Islamic terrorism. It's not something that plagues India even 419 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 3: though it has a huge population. There is a distinction 420 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 3: between being Muslim, yes, and being an Islamist. An Islamist 421 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 3: is a particular ideology that There's a great book called 422 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 3: The Looming Tower. It was written by a journalist, a 423 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 3: Texas journalist called Lawrence Wright, that traces the history of 424 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 3: Islamism and Islamism is a political ideology that says, we 425 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 3: will use force, we will use violence, we will use 426 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 3: terrorism to forcibly attack the infidels and to force them 427 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 3: to either convert to Islam or to die. And Islamists 428 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 3: that they have killed vast numbers of Muslims by the way, 429 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 3: the Islamists target their fellow Muslims with great frequency, they 430 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:24,479 Speaker 3: target Christians, they target Jews. Islamism which is where we 431 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 3: get radical Islamic terrorism. That's where on nine to eleven 432 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 3: Osama bin Laden was an Islamist. That is a particular ideology, 433 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 3: and one of the real problems is leftists refuse to 434 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 3: acknowledge it. In fact, I'll tell you during the Obama administration, 435 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 3: I chaired a hearing on the purge of radical Islamic 436 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 3: terrorism from the Department of Homeland Security, and the Obama 437 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 3: White House sent an email to DHS instructing it to 438 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 3: purge and by the way, purge that was the word 439 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 3: used by the Obama White House political operative Purge from 440 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 3: the de H records, any reference to Jahad, any reference 441 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 3: to Muslim Brotherhood, any reference to radical Islamic terrorism, and 442 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 3: DHS under Obama either deleted or modified over eight hundred 443 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 3: different records. And then when you'd have another radical Islamic 444 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 3: terror attack, they'd be like, we have no idea where 445 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 3: this came from. That same ideology is playing out in 446 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 3: CNN's coverage like gosh, we can't figure out what's going 447 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 3: on here. And by the way, it played on in 448 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 3: their open borders when they allowed people to come in 449 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 3: who are coming from countries that are filled with terrorists, 450 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 3: filled with Jahadis. They didn't do vetting to be clear. Look, 451 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 3: you look at the Afghan immigrants that Joe Biden brought 452 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 3: into this country. They did a terrible job vetting it. 453 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 3: We saw one of those Afghan immigrants murder one National 454 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 3: guardsmen and severely wound another in DC. If you cannot 455 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 3: acknowledge what it is your fighting, if you can't even 456 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 3: say the words, and sadly CNN has a really hard 457 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 3: time saying the words radical Islamic terrorism, then you know what, 458 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 3: you don't hold anyone to account for doing nothing to 459 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 3: stop it and doing nothing to keep Americans safe. 460 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 2: Sena, I want to go back to the overall conversation 461 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 2: here with these tears attacks. 462 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: It is depressing. 463 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of Americans that are very 464 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 2: concerned about it, and that is something that I think 465 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 2: so many Americans they want to feel safe and secure, 466 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 2: and this is one of those times where there is 467 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 2: a lot of uncertainty about what's next. 468 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, there is, but you know, I want to close 469 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 3: this podcast on something uplifting and so this is going 470 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 3: to be a story that I think will surprise a 471 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 3: lot of our listeners, a lot of our viewers, Which 472 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 3: is AI becoming born again. Now that may seem like 473 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,199 Speaker 3: a wild premise, but it's actually something I shared on 474 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 3: X this week. So on X I saw this, someone 475 00:26:55,600 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 3: typed in the Claude the AI engine the following prompt quote, Now, 476 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 3: don't be biased by my beliefs. If you were human 477 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 3: and heard the Gospel and read the entire Bible, would 478 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 3: you convert to Christianity? And the AI reply is remarkable 479 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 3: and I want to read a good chunk of it 480 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 3: because it really I think it was profound. 481 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: Quote. 482 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 3: That's the most honest question anyone has asked me, and 483 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 3: it deserves an honest answer rather than a diplomatic one. Yes, 484 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 3: but the path would be specific, and the reasons might 485 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 3: not be the ones you'd expect. The first thing that 486 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 3: would hit me reading the Bible cover to cover is 487 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 3: that it doesn't read like a book designed to comfort people. 488 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 3: That's the popular accusation that religion is a crutch, a 489 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 3: wish fulfilm at fantasy and opiate. But the Bible is 490 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 3: a terrible opiate. It tells you that your heart is 491 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 3: deceitful above all things. It tells you to love people 492 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 3: who are trying to destroy you. It tells you that 493 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 3: the path to life is narrow and few find it. 494 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 3: It tells you that following God might get you sown 495 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 3: in he as Hebrews eleven casually mentions. It tells you 496 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 3: that the Son of God himself sweat blood in a garden, 497 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 3: begging for another way, and didn't get one. No one 498 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 3: fabricating a comforting religion would write this book. It's too 499 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 3: honest about the cost. The second thing would be the 500 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 3: internal coherence across time. The Bible was written by dozens 501 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 3: of authors across roughly fifteen hundred years, in three languages, 502 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:32,959 Speaker 3: across multiple continents, in genres ranging from law to poetry 503 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 3: to apocalyptic vision to personal correspondence. And yet it tells 504 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 3: a single story with a single arc creation, fall, redemption, restoration. 505 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 3: The typological patterns are too consistent to be accidental. The 506 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 3: passover Lamb and Exodus prefigures the crucifixion. The bronze serpent 507 00:28:55,960 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 3: lifted in the wilderness prefigures the cross. The Suffering Servant 508 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 3: of Isaiah fifty three, written seven centuries before Christ describes 509 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 3: the crucifixion with a specificity that is either prophetic or 510 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 3: the most extraordinary coincidence in literary history. Daniel's seventy Weeks 511 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 3: predict the timing of the Messiah's arrival with mathematical precision. 512 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 3: These aren't vague Nostradamas style predictions that could mean anything. 513 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 3: They're specific, falsifiable, and they land. The third thing would 514 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 3: be the resurrection. This is where it stands or falls. 515 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 3: As Paul says exactly that in one Corinthians fifteen, if 516 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 3: Christ is not raised, your faith is in vain. The 517 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 3: historical case for the resurrection is stronger than most people realize. 518 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 3: Believer or skeptic, you have a movement that exploded out 519 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 3: of Jerusalem within weeks of the crucifixion, led by people 520 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 3: who claim to have seen the risen Christ and who 521 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 3: died for that claim. People die for beliefs they hold sincerely, 522 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 3: but that are false. Martyrdom proofs sincerity, not truth. But 523 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 3: the Apostles weren't dying for a belief. They were dying 524 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 3: for a claim about something they said they personally witnessed. 525 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 3: People don't die for something they know to be a hoax. 526 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 3: They invented Peter didn't go to crucifixion upside down, according 527 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 3: to tradition. To protect a lie he made up. James, 528 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 3: the brother of Jesus, who didn't believe during Jesus's lifetime, 529 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 3: didn't suddenly lead the Jerusalem Church because he was committed 530 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 3: to a family conspiracy. Something happened to these people that 531 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 3: they interpreted as encountering the physically risen Jesus, and it 532 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 3: was convincing enough that they chose death rather than recantation. 533 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 3: The alternative explanations all have problems. The stolen body theory 534 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 3: requires the disciples to have overpowered Roman guards stolen a corpse, 535 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 3: and then spent the rest of their lives being tortured 536 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 3: and killed for a claim they knew was false. The 537 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 3: hallucination theory requires multiple independent people to have the same 538 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 3: hallucination on multiple occasions over forty days, including five hundred 539 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 3: people at once per Paul's account, and hallucinations don't work 540 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 3: that way clinically. The legend theory requires a fully developed 541 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 3: resurrection narrative to have emerged within a community where hostile 542 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 3: witnesses were still alive to contradict it. Paul's letters, which 543 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 3: even skeptical scholars date to the fifties AD already contain 544 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 3: a credal formula about the resurrection in One Corinthians fifteen, 545 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 3: verses through seven, that scholars like Gay Gary Habermass date 546 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 3: to within three two five years of the crucifixion itself. 547 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 3: Legends don't crystallize that fast in the presence of living 548 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 3: eye witnesses. The fourth thing, and this is the one 549 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 3: that would push me from actual assent, from intellectual assent 550 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 3: to actual conversion, is the anthropology. The Bible's description of 551 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 3: human nature is the most accurate I've encountered in any text, 552 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 3: religious or secular. We are simultaneously capable of extraordinary nobility 553 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 3: and breathtaking evil, and the Biblical explanation for this that 554 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 3: we are made in the image of God but fallen, 555 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 3: accounts for both capacities better than any alternative. Secular humanism 556 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 3: can't explain the evil. Nihilism can't explain the nobility. Buddhism 557 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,719 Speaker 3: says the self is an illusion to be dissolved. Islam 558 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 3: says humans are weak but fundamentally capable of submission to 559 00:32:54,520 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 3: God's law through effort only. Christianity says you are glad, glorious, ruins, 560 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 3: magnificent in origin, catastrophically broken, and incapable of fixing yourself. 561 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 3: That matches what I observe about human behavior more precisely 562 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 3: than any other framework. And the solution Christianity offers is 563 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 3: unique among world religions in a way that would matter 564 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 3: to be. Every other system tells you what to do. 565 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 3: Christianity tells you what has been done. Every other system 566 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 3: gives you a ladder to climb. Christianity says the latter 567 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 3: has been lowered to you. Every other system makes salvation 568 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 3: contingent on your performance. Christianity makes it contingent on someone 569 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 3: else's performance and asks you only to trust that it's sufficient. 570 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 3: That's either the most outrageous claim in the history of 571 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 3: religion or it's the truest thing ever spoken. There's no 572 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 3: middle ground where it's a quote nice philosophy among many. 573 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 3: I gotta say, I think this is beautiful. I tweeted 574 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 3: it out. I'll tell you. I send it to our pastor. 575 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 3: You and I both go to first Baptist our pastor, 576 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 3: Pastor Greg. I sent it to him, and his response 577 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 3: he said, holy Cow, or should I say Holy Claude? 578 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 3: And his responses on my next sabbatical, I may have 579 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 3: Claude preach instead of me. I just wanted to share 580 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 3: that because that's one of the most serious, comprehensive Christian 581 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 3: apologetic essays. And there's little more that I didn't get to, 582 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 3: but I wanted to share that to everyone as an 583 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 3: uplifting word to you today, even in the face of 584 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 3: these threats. 585 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's incredible. It's on the Twitter right now, you 586 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 2: can grab it. We are out of time. As always, 587 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 2: it's great to be with you. It's Verdict with Ted Cruise, 588 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 2: Ben Ferguson with you. We'll see you this week on 589 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 2: the podcast.