WEBVTT - Miley's Black Mirror and Revisiting S1m0ne 0:00:02.240 --> 0:00:07.040 It's ten pm in a nuclear s event deep below 0:00:07.080 --> 0:00:25.959 the Pacific Ocean, and you're listening to Nightcall. Welcome to Nightcall, 0:00:26.000 --> 0:00:29.760 a podcast for your strange days and lonely nights. My 0:00:29.840 --> 0:00:32.479 name is Emily Oshida. I am in New York, and 0:00:32.640 --> 0:00:35.040 with me, as always on the other line, I have 0:00:35.720 --> 0:00:42.920 Molly Lambert and Tess Lynch. Hello. Hello, What's apparently the 0:00:43.040 --> 0:00:48.320 world or civilization is coming to an end by This 0:00:48.440 --> 0:00:52.000 is not on our news, but just now this is 0:00:52.080 --> 0:00:56.400 breaking news, breaking news. Um, the end is in sight. 0:00:56.960 --> 0:01:00.480 Civilization will probably come to an end by toy fifty, 0:01:00.600 --> 0:01:03.160 because like climate change, I plan to also come to 0:01:03.200 --> 0:01:08.400 an end. All good, all good. It doesn't say definitively, 0:01:08.560 --> 0:01:12.600 it says probably. This is kind of a Vice article. 0:01:12.680 --> 0:01:15.119 This is Vice who's giving us this report? I will 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:19.120 say I also haven't read the article yet. I have 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:22.640 just seen it tweeted a million times, but I'm speculating 0:01:23.360 --> 0:01:28.080 that it's about climate change, refugees and stuff, and how 0:01:28.319 --> 0:01:31.160 we will have used all the resources of the earth 0:01:31.200 --> 0:01:33.880 at a certain point and then people will turn on 0:01:33.959 --> 0:01:37.680 each other as they have already been doing. Now they 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:40.480 were kind of starting to get some perspective dates of 0:01:40.560 --> 0:01:43.919 like worst case scenario when everything's gonna go to ship. 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:46.920 I'm sort of bummed out that I'm going to be 0:01:47.319 --> 0:01:49.960 in my sixties for it. I kind of wish I 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:53.160 was like a little more, I don't know, you were 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:56.600 a young person for the apocalypse, just so that I 0:01:56.600 --> 0:02:02.120 could like outrun people and stuff. Verse. I'm gonna be 0:02:02.200 --> 0:02:07.480 not my fantasy, not my fantasy at all. Survival and 0:02:07.520 --> 0:02:10.000 fantasies are not my fantasy because I'm like, I would 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:12.480 go limp and be the first to die. You wouldn't. 0:02:12.480 --> 0:02:15.880 You're very you don't give yourself enough credit. You know 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:19.359 that is true, And I actually am in dangerous scenarios. 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:28.760 I always like summon inner pluck. Yeah, stereotyping but also true. Well, 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:33.720 just to clarify this Vice report Um says, the headline 0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:37.240 is new reports suggests quote high likelihood of human civilization 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:40.360 coming to an end in twenty and it was written 0:02:40.360 --> 0:02:45.120 by it's yeah, a former fossil fuel executive. And it 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:48.200 was also backed by the former chief of Australia's military 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:51.440 m I don't know, I don't know that sounds bad. 0:02:52.040 --> 0:02:55.760 Backed by the Australian military. Maybe they're trying to foment 0:02:56.880 --> 0:03:00.880 fear could be well, because Australians are racist, it's how 0:03:01.160 --> 0:03:04.120 or not to generalize. Some of them aren't. But Australia 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:07.640 as a country is like America. You know, it turned 0:03:07.720 --> 0:03:11.400 up a notch. Yeah, just like America, America in a 0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:13.840 weird e mirror. You know, it's like the same, but 0:03:13.919 --> 0:03:18.960 with different animals and types of you know, it's like 0:03:19.000 --> 0:03:22.320 America but different animals. That's a really really good way 0:03:22.360 --> 0:03:29.000 to sum up Australia. And also redheads are plucky and 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:33.919 like we're just we're a totally straightforward science podcast. Now, well, 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:37.680 speaking of science, I wanted to give some real science 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:42.280 about why does the Moon keep flashing us? Is a 0:03:44.400 --> 0:03:47.960 gas flashes? There's something flashing us on the Moon and 0:03:47.960 --> 0:03:50.360 we don't know what it is. We have known about 0:03:50.360 --> 0:03:54.600 the mysterious flashes since at least late nineteen sixties. Small 0:03:54.640 --> 0:03:57.200 regions of the lunar Service would suddenly get brighter or 0:03:57.280 --> 0:04:00.720 darker without obvious explanations. The Science into survey of the 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:05.640 flashes and dimming, which they called lunear transient phenomena uh 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:08.720 and they have admitted light that is usually described as 0:04:08.760 --> 0:04:12.680 reddish or pinkish, sometimes with a sparkling or flowing appearance. 0:04:13.800 --> 0:04:16.200 The average duration of an event is some twenty minutes, 0:04:16.240 --> 0:04:23.000 but it made suburb well. Apparently there's a new telescope. 0:04:23.240 --> 0:04:25.080 Scientists have been trying to figure out why this happens 0:04:25.120 --> 0:04:27.680 for five decades since they were first discovered in the sixties, 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:30.320 but they are now known to happen a few times 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:32.960 a week, and a new team of astronomers has a 0:04:32.960 --> 0:04:38.000 new telescope in Spain, specifically to find out why it 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:40.960 might be related to the moonquakes that we were talking 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:43.120 about last week. This is so weird. I was just 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:47.520 reading about earthquakes because there were some earthquakes in the 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:52.560 Inland Empire. There were like thirty little earthquakes and and 0:04:52.560 --> 0:04:55.719 I was like, I felt no, I'm just like we're 0:04:55.920 --> 0:04:59.720 overdo obviously. I mean, maybe I'm crazy. I it was 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:02.080 a apparently they were very small. I shouldn't have been 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:05.000 able to feel them in Los Angeles but at us, 0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:07.520 but both my husband and I were like, earthquake. And 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:09.800 then I checked Twitter and I was like, yes, there 0:05:09.839 --> 0:05:13.400 is an earthquake. I was reading about earthquake weather, which 0:05:13.440 --> 0:05:16.120 is like a sort of pseudo scientific phenomenon where people 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:18.479 predict earthquakes because they're like, oh, the weather is weird, 0:05:18.960 --> 0:05:21.960 there's going to be an earthquake. It's totally not scientific. 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:24.000 It doesn't it's ever been proven. It doesn't really work. 0:05:24.400 --> 0:05:27.000 There's nothing you can really use to predict an earthquake, 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:29.680 like far in advance. It's but but not far in 0:05:29.720 --> 0:05:34.360 advance animal behavior, but also animals act weird all the time, 0:05:34.480 --> 0:05:37.240 so it's hard to distinguish. Makes you very paranoid. But 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:39.320 they sometimes it's like they hide under the bed. That's 0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:42.200 my experiences. It's like they get weird and they start hiding, 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:44.200 and you're like, where, what's up with the animals? And 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:46.000 then there's an earthquake and like that's what was up. 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:49.640 But I was reading about another phenomenon called earthquake light, 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:53.760 which is real, which has been noticed when there's an earthquake, 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:57.239 there's like a like a phenomenal light phenomenon that's described 0:05:57.279 --> 0:05:59.400 as being like colored light. It sounds just like this, 0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:01.719 But where can you see it in the sky or 0:06:01.760 --> 0:06:04.840 is it like it's like a aurora a type thing. 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:07.560 It's like an aurora you can see over the ye 0:06:07.720 --> 0:06:10.960 in the sky during an earthquake. Supposedly this sounds just 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:13.520 like that. Maybe this is like a moonquake. That is 0:06:13.760 --> 0:06:18.080 very molly good hypothesis. That's really good because she's actually 0:06:18.160 --> 0:06:21.840 the scientific community. Well, if you actually know any science 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:24.680 about the moon, more science about we should have uh 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:31.800 some scientists on this expert. Yeah, a moon ologistian my friend, 0:06:32.200 --> 0:06:36.560 my friend Emma Cunningham explained the northern lights to me. Uh, 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:40.480 and it like I couldn't understand it at all, but 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:44.159 I love the northern light. It's so cool, northern lights. 0:06:44.200 --> 0:06:45.520 It's one of those things are It's like, even when 0:06:45.520 --> 0:06:48.120 you haven't explained, it doesn't make it any less cool 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:54.200 or weird or magical. Yeah. So that at the moon minute, Well, 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:57.240 just to dip back into the apocalypse real quick, or like, 0:06:57.279 --> 0:06:59.680 I guess maybe both the Moon and Earth are currently 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:02.480 going through it right now. I'm sorry, I'm a really 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:06.839 bad joke I have to do right now. Maybe maybe 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:15.800 it's going through MOONA pause. No, yeah, that's why we're 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:20.840 here today, Okay. Um, I was going down our rabbit 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:23.760 hole for completely separate but also night called related reasons. 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:26.480 I now realize and I discovered this is not at 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:30.440 all news, but I just wanted to share it with everybody. Um. 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:34.320 I became aware of the Florida Dome Homes. You can 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:36.920 look them up. They are officially called the Cape Romano 0:07:37.120 --> 0:07:40.240 Dome Homes. They're somewhere off the they're off the coast 0:07:40.440 --> 0:07:42.880 now they are off the coast of Florida. They were 0:07:42.880 --> 0:07:46.080 originally on the beach, but thanks to a couple of 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:51.400 um hurricanes and some some of that good old glacier 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:56.320 melt there now in the water. Well wait, technically it's 0:07:56.400 --> 0:07:59.600 one home, but it's six domes that are connected into 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:03.120 one house. Yes, yeah, it's a dome home. It's a 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:06.600 dome home singular. But there's many domes I should say 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:13.520 domes home. Yes, uh, they so. I would highly recommend 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:16.920 a Google image search of these. They now just like 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:19.320 look like the sort of rickety about to fall over. 0:08:19.600 --> 0:08:21.760 They kind of look like like that Greek style of 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:26.960 like Adobe dome. They're really cool on stilts. The guy 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:29.640 who built them built them to be completely self sufficient, 0:08:29.720 --> 0:08:31.400 so they were like very ahead of their times. This 0:08:31.520 --> 0:08:33.760 is like in the I think in the early eighties, 0:08:33.800 --> 0:08:37.240 maybe he started to build them. Yes, Bob Bob Lee 0:08:37.480 --> 0:08:40.680 is the guy's Bob Lee. Yeah. I don't think these 0:08:40.720 --> 0:08:43.640 are featured. But there's a movie that I really love 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:46.720 called Home Movie. It's a documentary made by the people 0:08:46.760 --> 0:08:49.600 who made American movie. It like the movie they made 0:08:49.679 --> 0:08:52.480 right afterwards, And it's just going to a bunch of 0:08:52.480 --> 0:08:55.839 people who built weird or unusual homes and interviewing them 0:08:55.840 --> 0:08:59.160 about it, and they're all really cool. And this one 0:08:59.240 --> 0:09:01.440 isn't in it. There's somebody else who has kind of 0:09:01.480 --> 0:09:04.040 like a UFO house that's kind of a similar kind 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:09.199 of like proto solar panel. Yeah, really cool. There are 0:09:09.280 --> 0:09:12.640 photos in this will link to this um dwell article 0:09:12.679 --> 0:09:14.880 about it that has some photos of the inside of 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:17.280 the house when it was still functional and when Bob 0:09:17.360 --> 0:09:21.000 Lee's family lived there, and it looks really nice. It 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:26.080 looks yeah, total nightcall headquarters. Yes, absolutely, like these child 0:09:26.160 --> 0:09:30.160 floors looks very Mediterranean, but like all the rooms around obviously, 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:31.959 and you've got these like you know, three D and 0:09:32.040 --> 0:09:35.319 sixty degree views of the water and you're in Florida 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:37.360 and everything kind of looks paisy and pink and it 0:09:37.360 --> 0:09:39.520 looks great. Uh, And now they are kind of these 0:09:39.559 --> 0:09:43.120 abandoned little they look like if jellyfish could have fossils, 0:09:43.760 --> 0:09:49.560 they look like that. Ye, yes, if jelly fish had bones. 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:54.079 Oh my god, imagine if jellyfish had bones. I don't 0:09:54.080 --> 0:09:58.160 think they'd be jellyfish anymore. Honestly, wish have bones. It's 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:01.280 over for us, bitches. You know they will be here 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:03.920 long after because they are the oldest. I know they 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:06.240 shall be the first and last. I saw a really 0:10:06.240 --> 0:10:10.360 good video recently of a comb jellyfish eating in another 0:10:10.440 --> 0:10:13.360 comb jellyfish, just like bumping up against one and then 0:10:13.400 --> 0:10:18.240 be like, like I encountered something else in my environment, 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:24.480 I will eat it hit me anyway. I would check 0:10:24.480 --> 0:10:26.920 out the dome. The dome home it is. It is 0:10:26.960 --> 0:10:30.559 super cool. I wish that it was anywhere nearly savageable, 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:33.240 because I would totally be putting in a bid for 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:34.959 it to be our night Call headquarters. But I think 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:36.719 it's just we just have to let it go out 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:38.640 to see. There was an interesting thing at the end 0:10:38.720 --> 0:10:42.199 about how they tried to raise money to sink it artificial. 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:45.800 Read so when we get our gill transplants and we 0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:49.319 can breathe underwater, I'm wondering if that's not something that 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:53.720 could be revived successfully. Now. I wonder when that um 0:10:53.880 --> 0:11:01.760 fundraising campaign will transplant. I wonder when, like they proposed 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:04.160 turning it into an artificial reef, because I feel like 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:07.040 now people would be very receptive to that, whereas a 0:11:07.080 --> 0:11:09.640 few years ago, when we were so blithe, we were like, 0:11:10.120 --> 0:11:12.080 I would really like some Gil transplants and to just 0:11:12.160 --> 0:11:14.000 live in there. That's my dream. Well, I don't think 0:11:14.040 --> 0:11:16.480 I could live under fatter even with Gil the first 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:20.200 Little Mermaid, I'd be so know you went in because 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:23.439 you live underwater, right, and then you would get pruny fingers, 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:26.640 and you'd have to deal with that feeling of the 0:11:26.720 --> 0:11:29.560 thirsty skin even though it's in. It's just terrible, Like 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:35.080 maybe you'd put sand on your body, Jills and scales 0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:38.280 to make this work. It's way too much work, guys. 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:40.840 I wanted to talk about one more news item before 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:43.120 we move on, and this was I think this came 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:45.240 out a week I think I read this on the 0:11:45.280 --> 0:11:49.920 train coming back from Nightcall last week. But there was 0:11:49.960 --> 0:11:52.320 a big article in the New York Times about Peter 0:11:52.480 --> 0:11:57.839 Max the the commercial artist of the sixties and the 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:02.120 premier commercial artists of the sixties some of these um 0:12:02.160 --> 0:12:06.680 and how he now has dementia and his children have 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:11.480 basically like completely like they've completely tried to buy off 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:14.040 his legacy. They are having him sign art that he 0:12:14.080 --> 0:12:17.840 did not make such pulled up. It's his son Adam 0:12:17.960 --> 0:12:21.720 and two business associates are doing that. His daughter Libra 0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:30.480 is like that, she's on his side, like Cosmo, And 0:12:30.720 --> 0:12:34.200 yes it is. It's Keen Lear with with with off 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:37.640 art or so. First of all, I clicked on this 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:41.719 because I was so curious because in my neighborhood in Brooklyn, 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:46.720 there is a silver Jaguar that has a New York 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:49.480 license plate that's always parked on the street somewhere around 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:52.160 me that says Peter Max. It's like a lanity plates 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:54.680 says Peter Max. And I've always been like, does Peter 0:12:54.760 --> 0:12:58.360 Max live in my neighborhood and in Brooklyn? And then 0:12:58.679 --> 0:13:00.840 so I immediately opened up and I was like, Okay, 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:02.880 what's going on with Peter Max? What's going on in 0:13:03.480 --> 0:13:06.360 the you know, not at all glamorous corner of Park Slope, 0:13:06.480 --> 0:13:09.560 which I whish I live. But apparently whoever has that 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:11.600 car has nothing to do with or at least as 0:13:11.640 --> 0:13:14.360 not a associated with his studio, which is all on 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:17.760 the Upper West Side. Because of course it is um 0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:21.120 uh yeah, it's a it's a it's a wild story. 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:24.280 It also just like I don't know about how they 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:27.360 tried to they tried to poison him with brazil NEAs. Okay, 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:30.319 so wait, guys, I went really deep on this great 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:33.199 there's so many well, I just I took a lot 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:35.280 of notes on this story because I was like, there's 0:13:35.320 --> 0:13:38.640 everyone is a villain in this story, and just be 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:41.200 real right in Peter Max, Well, Peter Max is not 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:45.520 a villain much. Yeah, well he's a sellout. And then 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:49.160 he tried he like you know, basically pled guilty to 0:13:49.240 --> 0:13:53.679 tax evasion. And after that, oh, because he was so 0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:56.720 he was an artist who very quickly was you know, 0:13:56.800 --> 0:14:02.680 he was kind of like kind of counterfeits, like he's 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:05.040 like with Don Draper is dreaming of when he when 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:08.560 he is meditating. He was like one of the first 0:14:08.600 --> 0:14:11.000 of that wave to just be like I'm gonna team 0:14:11.080 --> 0:14:14.199 up with the CEO of Chrysler, I'm gonna sell I'm 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:16.520 gonna do like advertisements. That's gonna be my thing. And 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:19.800 then he became really into spending his money. So when 0:14:19.800 --> 0:14:22.520 he divorced his first wife, he was like, I will 0:14:22.560 --> 0:14:26.120 just build a staircase connecting my apartment and the adjacent 0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:29.120 apartment so we can lead separate lives but co parent 0:14:29.200 --> 0:14:34.640 our children. It's like, it's just like terrible. Yeah, he was. 0:14:35.480 --> 0:14:37.560 He just became a kind of a rich dick. So 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:41.880 then he has two children, Adam and Libra. And Libra 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:44.240 I guess he you know, Peter Max is like an 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:47.160 animal rights activist and stuff. Libra kind of inherited that, 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:50.120 moved to l a was doing that, wasn't super involved 0:14:50.160 --> 0:14:52.920 in the business even though she and Adam and Peter 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:56.320 were all running the company, so Libra didn't really have 0:14:56.400 --> 0:14:59.200 much to do with it. Adam, you know, eventually Peter 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:04.560 Max Alzheimer's and became unable to really, you know, do 0:15:04.640 --> 0:15:07.600 his art or even kind of function at these events 0:15:07.600 --> 0:15:09.120 that he was going to, most of which were on 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:12.440 cruise lines where people would get drunk and bid on 0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:16.320 Peter Max paintings. So his son at some point kind 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:20.320 of basically put the studio on lockdown so nobody could 0:15:20.320 --> 0:15:22.960 see what was going on inside, and then had all 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:27.160 of these minimum wage workers making like replica Peter Max paintings, 0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:28.760 and then he would have his dad come in and 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:32.160 sign them. But then, you know, I guess Peter Max 0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:33.840 is I'm not sure if he's still married to her, 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:37.720 but his second wife, Mary Um started accusing Adam of, 0:15:37.880 --> 0:15:41.640 you know, basically kidnapping Peter Max because they couldn't find him, 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:44.480 couldn't contact him. And so all of the court records 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:47.600 are cited in the New York Times investigation and that's 0:15:47.640 --> 0:15:51.080 where the poisoning vibe brazil nut comes in. So Adam 0:15:51.200 --> 0:15:53.800 is like, hey, it's not just me here, who is 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:57.000 being abusive to my dad? Look at my mom. She 0:15:57.400 --> 0:16:00.240 is making him smoothies where she puts in hold zill 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:04.200 nuts hoping that he'll choke. Apparently she was recorded talking 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:07.520 to someone about hiring a guy to like intimidate Peter 0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:09.720 Max and you know, break his hand so he wouldn't 0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:12.840 be able to paint. It is this whole It feels 0:16:12.880 --> 0:16:14.960 like there's a lot of stories like this recently about 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:20.000 elder abuse with famous famous There's a Stanley one and 0:16:20.040 --> 0:16:23.720 the guy just got convicted. Oh did he? Yeah? I 0:16:23.760 --> 0:16:27.120 was selling that for a while as well. Um. Yeah, 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:30.760 it's it's it's some dark stuff, like the idea of 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:33.840 the Norwegian isn't it like a Norwegian cress line that's 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:39.640 like a Peter Max theme boat, Like it's it just 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:42.600 sounds like part of me is like would I want 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:45.120 to be on that? And then I'm like no, absolutely not. 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:47.680 And then when just filled with all this like forged 0:16:47.800 --> 0:16:51.040 dart that like some old man with franches forced like 0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:54.480 a gunpoint basically to side, Like, oh god, it's so dark, 0:16:54.520 --> 0:16:57.320 all of it. It's like velvet buzz soft. Yes, yes, 0:16:58.280 --> 0:17:02.920 I feel like there's so much creepy bullshit in the 0:17:03.040 --> 0:17:05.640 regular art world though, too, you know what I mean. 0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:09.879 I like every baroque I know, but every big artist 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:13.200 has like an army of like underpaid, you know, lower 0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:16.320 tier people fabricating all the arts for them, like they 0:17:16.320 --> 0:17:18.280 don't make any of the art they tried to, kind 0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:22.400 of like Damian Herst's like people build build art for 0:17:22.640 --> 0:17:25.200 artists who dictate how to do it. But then this 0:17:25.280 --> 0:17:28.879 is like too many degrees of separation even for that realm. 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:32.080 If you're not even conscious of making the art, then 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:35.080 I don't know. That's something else. I don't know. It's 0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:38.760 it's a pretty wild story. The new Katy Perry video 0:17:39.119 --> 0:17:43.800 for Never Really Over is very Peter max ish. Yeah, 0:17:43.920 --> 0:17:46.159 it's all like kind of looks like a Paisley scarf 0:17:46.200 --> 0:17:50.040 with It's very like the like the coke commercial from 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:52.160 the Last Madman that you're just talking about. It's very 0:17:52.200 --> 0:17:58.080 like seventy really seventies, late sixties. Also the song is good. 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:04.840 Speaking of pop stars, I flew on a very special 0:18:04.960 --> 0:18:11.600 UFO to England where I saw the new Black Mirror 0:18:11.880 --> 0:18:15.600 episode that nobody has seen yet um and not as 0:18:15.600 --> 0:18:19.080 of this recording, not nobody, but it's now out, which 0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:21.480 means everybody can talk about it. But it means I'm, 0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:24.480 you know, projecting this to you from from before you've 0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:28.119 seen the Black Mirror episode. Is what I'm saying is 0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:30.560 I've seen this Black Mirror episode. It is now out 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:33.639 on Netflix. Now out on Netflix and you can watch too. 0:18:33.720 --> 0:18:38.119 It is called Rachel Jack and Ashley Too, and it 0:18:38.280 --> 0:18:43.119 stars Miley Cyrus as a pop star named Ashley Oh. 0:18:43.200 --> 0:18:47.320 And this will be another Black Mirror episode that people 0:18:47.359 --> 0:18:50.119 will be like, how did this predict exactly what is 0:18:50.160 --> 0:18:55.000 happening right this moment? Because it does eerily touch on 0:18:55.080 --> 0:18:58.120 some issues of many things we were just talking about 0:18:58.160 --> 0:19:02.639 in terms of like ownership, create of ownership, who profits 0:19:02.680 --> 0:19:06.480 off of an artist, especially one that has a lot 0:19:06.520 --> 0:19:09.119 of people profiting off of them, and a motive in 0:19:09.440 --> 0:19:16.040 continuing making every person continue to work h So Miley 0:19:16.080 --> 0:19:20.240 plays Ashley Oh. And the best thing, one of the 0:19:20.240 --> 0:19:22.520 many good things about this episode, which is very nightcall 0:19:22.800 --> 0:19:26.080 bait e, is that, um, she sings a pop song 0:19:26.520 --> 0:19:29.520 that is had like a Hole by nine inch Nails 0:19:29.680 --> 0:19:33.560 with new lyrics that her Hannah Montana e. Oh. I 0:19:33.600 --> 0:19:36.119 thought she just did a cover of head like a Hole. No, 0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:38.800 it's so much better than that. It's like they show 0:19:39.400 --> 0:19:41.560 her singing the song and I was like, what is 0:19:41.600 --> 0:19:45.400 this song? It's so catchy and also familiar in the trailer, 0:19:45.520 --> 0:19:48.720 right maybe, Um, I've had it and I've had it 0:19:48.760 --> 0:19:50.600 in my head since then and I couldn't share it 0:19:50.640 --> 0:19:53.480 with anybody. But it's like, amah, it's called on a roll. 0:19:54.720 --> 0:19:59.639 I'm on a roll. I'm taking control, doing my best 0:20:00.240 --> 0:20:05.399 achieving muggle. Oh my god. Um And they play in 0:20:05.440 --> 0:20:09.159 a million times in the episode and it's really good. Uh. 0:20:09.400 --> 0:20:12.520 This episode touches on yeah, many things we all talk 0:20:12.600 --> 0:20:17.240 about in terms of wait, so what's the prim like, 0:20:17.320 --> 0:20:21.239 what happened? What happens to her in the story? Too 0:20:21.320 --> 0:20:23.359 much of it, that's spilling too much. It's a dual 0:20:23.480 --> 0:20:27.240 narrative about Ashley Oh and a teenage girl who is 0:20:27.240 --> 0:20:29.840 her fan and so it's mostly from the point of 0:20:29.920 --> 0:20:32.320 view of the girl who's the fan, but it's about 0:20:32.359 --> 0:20:36.439 Ashley is about to turn twenty five, and that is 0:20:36.480 --> 0:20:40.879 when she gains control of her business basically, and she 0:20:41.000 --> 0:20:46.639 has an aunt who has a conservatorship and she, uh, 0:20:46.800 --> 0:20:51.160 the aunt maybe is being manipulative of her to try 0:20:51.200 --> 0:20:54.320 and ensure that the money never stops. It sounds it 0:20:54.440 --> 0:20:57.639 sounds good. I missed Black Mirror. I've been like really 0:20:57.720 --> 0:20:59.719 after band or Snatch. I thought that they were going 0:20:59.760 --> 0:21:02.879 to at least the next three episodes, like right away, 0:21:03.000 --> 0:21:05.600 and I was just kind of tapping my finger. Sounds 0:21:05.600 --> 0:21:09.119 really good, I cried at the end. But it's also 0:21:09.640 --> 0:21:12.440 without spelling too much, it's maybe not as depressing as 0:21:12.480 --> 0:21:14.359 some Black mirrors. If you're a person who doesn't like 0:21:14.400 --> 0:21:16.240 to watch Black Mirror because you find it too depressing, 0:21:16.240 --> 0:21:18.840 it too depressing. Black mirrors are difficult, I think this 0:21:18.920 --> 0:21:23.120 is not that one. Um, it's very good. It it's 0:21:23.160 --> 0:21:25.800 funny also, but it also concerns a robot, a home 0:21:25.880 --> 0:21:29.399 robot called Ashley Too, the titular Ashley Too, and so 0:21:29.480 --> 0:21:33.880 they make an AI of her basically or something like that, 0:21:34.040 --> 0:21:36.400 like to continue to be able to make money off 0:21:36.440 --> 0:21:38.720 of her. Is that the basic premise of it, or 0:21:38.840 --> 0:21:41.840 it's like they make an AI of her. Yes, they 0:21:41.920 --> 0:21:43.600 that's the basic premise. They make an AI of her 0:21:43.680 --> 0:21:46.080 by like scanning her consciousness, putting it in like a 0:21:46.080 --> 0:21:48.679 little Alexa home robot that's in like this little Wally 0:21:48.840 --> 0:21:51.480 that like sits on your desk and it's like, hey, 0:21:51.520 --> 0:21:54.679 what are you doing? Hey, talk to me about your feelings? 0:21:55.200 --> 0:21:59.280 Um in Miley's voice, Well, like this is even happening 0:21:59.359 --> 0:22:01.640 now though, like this was happening a couple of years ago. 0:22:01.720 --> 0:22:04.280 I feel like, um, I feel like who who gave 0:22:04.320 --> 0:22:06.760 an interview about this after being in a Marvel movie 0:22:06.800 --> 0:22:10.679 where they were like, um oh, I realized that now 0:22:10.920 --> 0:22:15.560 my entire body and likeness has been scanned by Marvel 0:22:15.840 --> 0:22:19.240 and Disney and therefore and it is it belongs to them. 0:22:19.280 --> 0:22:21.159 Like this was a part of the contract because they 0:22:21.160 --> 0:22:25.680 had to, you know, make a digital recreation in your likeness. Yeah, 0:22:25.720 --> 0:22:28.680 they own your likeness and then they can essentially make 0:22:28.840 --> 0:22:32.520 anything with that likeness. They can simulate your you know, 0:22:32.600 --> 0:22:35.679 they can do the Princess Leiah thing from from the 0:22:35.800 --> 0:22:38.440 end of Rogue one or whatever they can. They can 0:22:38.520 --> 0:22:42.720 you know, generate a new you. Uh yeah, so that 0:22:42.720 --> 0:22:45.639 that is extremely what this is about. And the fact 0:22:45.680 --> 0:22:48.520 that it stars Miley makes it also kind of like. 0:22:48.560 --> 0:22:52.120 It's very meta but not annoying. It's funny and good 0:22:52.280 --> 0:22:57.399 and I'm excited for everybody else to see it. Um 0:22:57.600 --> 0:23:00.600 seamlessly into our discussion of a movie we all watched 0:23:01.200 --> 0:23:06.000 called Simone. I would say we watched Simone because we 0:23:06.040 --> 0:23:09.040 watched Simone because of this. I did not remember though, 0:23:09.080 --> 0:23:11.199 that while I was looking at the trivia for Simone, 0:23:11.200 --> 0:23:12.600 and one of the things about it was that they 0:23:12.600 --> 0:23:15.160 were planning to market it as that they had generated 0:23:15.200 --> 0:23:18.720 the first AI actress. And then it was right around 0:23:18.720 --> 0:23:21.320 the same time as the Final Fantasy Movie, you know, 0:23:21.359 --> 0:23:22.639 when they were like, We're going to make cg I 0:23:22.680 --> 0:23:26.960 movies with entirely c g I people, and SAG got 0:23:27.080 --> 0:23:30.400 so mad about it. Bless the screen actor. I am 0:23:30.440 --> 0:23:32.919 a member of the great Force that I love. I 0:23:33.080 --> 0:23:36.840 was legit concerned about actors being replaced with c g 0:23:37.040 --> 0:23:40.720