WEBVTT - #367 - DJ Muggs 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:02.160 Yo one two was adding Yo this DJ Muggs Live 0:00:02.200 --> 0:00:03.920 from La Man. Make sure to check me out on 0:00:03.960 --> 0:00:06.080 Bootleg cav podcast. 0:00:09.240 --> 0:00:12.840 Yo boutlet keV podcast Special guests in here. One of 0:00:12.840 --> 0:00:15.760 the greatest producers to ever live Ladies and Gentlemen does 0:00:15.880 --> 0:00:17.560 do a lot of interviews, so I feel very privileged 0:00:17.560 --> 0:00:18.800 to be sitting down with DJ Muggs. 0:00:18.840 --> 0:00:21.160 What's adding brother, welcome man, feel thanks for having me man. 0:00:21.440 --> 0:00:24.360 Yeah, sol Assassin's Three Death Valley is album. 0:00:24.079 --> 0:00:29.120 Yeah man, And what a track listing. Wow, man, some 0:00:29.160 --> 0:00:30.080 motherfucker's on there. 0:00:30.240 --> 0:00:31.800 Some motherfucker's on there for real. 0:00:32.200 --> 0:00:34.680 Yeah, some of my favorite new rappers man, Like you know, 0:00:35.479 --> 0:00:37.040 Body James shout. 0:00:36.800 --> 0:00:39.360 Outs to Bodie. You've got ghost Face on there. 0:00:39.479 --> 0:00:41.400 Yeah oh yeah. Then we got some of the classics 0:00:41.400 --> 0:00:42.879 and ship yeah, ghost and Gun. 0:00:42.680 --> 0:00:45.040 Shout out to TF man. I was gonna say, like, 0:00:45.080 --> 0:00:49.920 it's crazy because I remember the source advertisements for the 0:00:50.040 --> 0:00:53.120 very first Soul Assassins album, which was what ninety seven 0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:57.080 or ninety eight seven? Yeah, man, So like fast forward. 0:00:57.640 --> 0:00:59.160 I don't even want to talk about how many years 0:00:59.160 --> 0:01:01.040 that is because it'll age you and me a lot. 0:01:01.080 --> 0:01:05.520 But for you, like what has changed about putting together 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:08.920 a soul assassin's album after, you know, twenty five years 0:01:08.959 --> 0:01:11.839 later or whatever it is, and what kind of still 0:01:11.880 --> 0:01:14.199 fuels you to be so passionate about this shit because 0:01:14.240 --> 0:01:17.640 you were active still to this day. You know, you're 0:01:17.640 --> 0:01:20.800 always dropping projects, joint projects, working with up and coming artists. 0:01:20.800 --> 0:01:25.440 Man, yeah, part one was back then. 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:29.000 It was pre mixtapes, before mixtapes got really crazy, So 0:01:29.080 --> 0:01:31.120 doing a record like this was something unique, you know 0:01:31.160 --> 0:01:31.520 what I mean. 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:33.160 There was only a few motherfuckers doing. 0:01:33.000 --> 0:01:35.960 That where I just a lot of people was asking 0:01:35.959 --> 0:01:37.520 me to do tracks for them for their albums, and 0:01:37.560 --> 0:01:39.000 I was like, man, I'm good man. I'd just rather 0:01:39.040 --> 0:01:40.760 just build my group and do my shit, but you 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:43.320 all can come and be on my shit. Then once 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:46.679 the mixtape Eric kicked off, everything was just mixtapes. So 0:01:46.760 --> 0:01:50.640 then it was just it wass nothing really special about 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:52.160 making these records nor more because you can go get 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:54.400 a fly as mixtape. So I was like, I don't 0:01:54.400 --> 0:01:56.960 think I'm gonna do another one, So I just I 0:01:57.040 --> 0:01:59.240 record all the time. So recording the homies come through 0:01:59.320 --> 0:02:01.880 record record, stacking songs, stacking songs, and I was like, 0:02:02.000 --> 0:02:03.480 I got some shit right here. What am I gonna 0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:06.080 do and I was like, I was. I had three 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:07.920 or four different ideas of the way to put it out, 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:10.519 and then I was just gonna probably drop a song 0:02:10.560 --> 0:02:13.480 every two months for the next three years. And then 0:02:13.520 --> 0:02:15.239 gold Watch came through and I was like, Yo, I 0:02:15.280 --> 0:02:17.040 need you to help me figure something out, man, I 0:02:17.080 --> 0:02:19.600 need to build something visually for this record, because I 0:02:19.600 --> 0:02:21.600 feel like just doing videos. 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:24.240 Yeah the video I saw that. I only saw the trailer, 0:02:24.280 --> 0:02:28.000 but the trailer looked like a fucking full fledged cinematic yeah. 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:30.200 And I was like, I'm tired of videos, man, what 0:02:30.200 --> 0:02:31.919 can we do brocause I'm not putting this record on. 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:34.080 I was like, let's let's build something that's like ten 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:36.440 fifteen minutes long. He's like, man, that's a that's that's 0:02:36.440 --> 0:02:38.200 gonna be hard. And I was like, you know shit. 0:02:39.520 --> 0:02:44.160 And we started. We shot and pre prepped for like 0:02:44.200 --> 0:02:48.119 a month. I ended up shooting in Death Valley, Oakland, 0:02:48.320 --> 0:02:52.560 San Francisco, Vegas, LA and ended up being a thirty 0:02:52.560 --> 0:02:53.320 four minute movie. 0:02:54.880 --> 0:02:55.359 Crazy. 0:02:55.639 --> 0:02:56.919 Yeah. We shot videos. 0:02:57.240 --> 0:02:59.400 We shot music videos, and they're in the movie on 0:02:59.480 --> 0:03:02.360 the TV like in the trap House, Mayhem's videos on 0:03:02.360 --> 0:03:05.239 the TV in the Trap House, Rock Mars he's. 0:03:05.080 --> 0:03:05.880 Building a bomb. 0:03:07.600 --> 0:03:08.240 That's crazy. 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:12.480 And you know his video. I'm watching his video in 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:15.600 my house while he's building a bomb. In the video, 0:03:15.639 --> 0:03:18.880 I'm holding the bomb, so it's psychedelic. It's like, I 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:21.320 don't know if you're familiar with Alejandro Jodoroski, So I've 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:23.960 compared more like a Jada Roski meets Pink Floyd with 0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:24.440 hip hop. 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:27.600 Yeah, it's crazy because I feel like, not like you 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:29.760 said back in the day, what you did was unique, 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:32.920 and I feel like in today's climate, doing a thirty 0:03:32.919 --> 0:03:36.000 four minute like mini movie is unique as well. And 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:37.880 we've seen like movies to go along with albums. I 0:03:37.920 --> 0:03:39.680 feel like people don't do that shit nomore because they're 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:43.240 like so worried about like the microwaveable attention span of 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:46.119 people instead of like, yo, let me do something dope, unique, creative. 0:03:46.440 --> 0:03:46.640 Yeah. 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:48.440 I did it for me, man, I can give a fuck, 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:49.840 you know what I mean. I did it all for me, 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:52.720 Like how can I keep myself entertained? Yeah, and how 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:55.240 can I do something that's just fund just to get 0:03:55.320 --> 0:03:57.240 up and do everything? I'm a little challenging something I 0:03:57.280 --> 0:04:00.240 ain't done before. So that was the driving forced it 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:02.520 for me. Yeah, I done did everything I've set out 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:05.480 to do years ago, So you know, just keep just 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:07.920 keep tricking my brain and stretching myself and having a 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:08.800 good time doing this shit. 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:11.600 Is that what keeps you going? It's like, I'm doing 0:04:11.600 --> 0:04:12.000 this for me. 0:04:12.040 --> 0:04:13.120 Really, I do it for me. 0:04:13.200 --> 0:04:15.120 But you know, at the same time, man, I love 0:04:15.480 --> 0:04:18.799 I love the kind of music we make, this underground 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:21.200 hip hop shit that it's nothing different than I've always made. 0:04:21.279 --> 0:04:23.640 But you know, I figure I can come here now 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:27.640 and just champion what's going on and just build build 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:29.720 this culture and make it bigger and stretch it, make 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:31.880 it stronger, you know what I mean, inspire the youth, 0:04:32.320 --> 0:04:35.520 and then also give guidance and and and let them 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:37.920 tap into my fan base, you know what I mean, 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:40.120 and grab some of these youngsters and like show them, 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:40.880 show them the way. 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:44.200 Now, it's been dope to see, like your run just continue. 0:04:44.320 --> 0:04:46.280 And I just had to talk with al recently because 0:04:46.279 --> 0:04:48.719 I'm always trying to push rappers to do albums with 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:50.920 Alchemists that you know, I just did this with Jada 0:04:50.960 --> 0:04:52.440 Kiss on the podcast. I was like, why have you 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:53.919 done a whole album with Alchemists? 0:04:53.960 --> 0:04:56.000 No? Shit crazy, that'd be crazy. 0:04:56.000 --> 0:04:57.480 But I'd like to see you, like you know, you're 0:04:57.520 --> 0:04:59.760 like I always working with artists and like doing like 0:04:59.800 --> 0:05:02.000 for pledged like bodies of work, whether it's like Jay 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:04.480 Worthy or may Him Loran, Like you're very much like 0:05:05.000 --> 0:05:07.599 you know, it feels like you're still in your peak 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:11.640 and you're still like, like you said that the underground 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:13.840 shit has changed over the years, the quot unquote underground 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:16.080 hip hop shit has definitely changed from what like it 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:17.800 might have been in like two thousand, two thousand and 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:20.600 one or whatever, but like you're still like fully engaged 0:05:20.640 --> 0:05:22.719 and like pushing that culture. And like, to me, that's 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:27.000 that's very dope because you know, just from a DJ perspective, 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:29.200 like I find the little things that keep me still 0:05:29.240 --> 0:05:32.240 like motivated and engaged to try to like still listen 0:05:32.320 --> 0:05:34.839 to new artists, you know what I mean. And and 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:37.320 so it's just dope to see you still you know, 0:05:37.480 --> 0:05:38.600 fully fucking in it. 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:38.800 Bro. 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:41.280 Yeah, man, you know, just having a good time, man, 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:43.880 and you know, just be able to just hang out 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:46.279 and kick it with the homies and talk some shit, 0:05:46.320 --> 0:05:46.840 you know what I mean. 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:50.760 What was the homage to Death Valley Why so So? 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:52.200 Assassin's three Death Valley on. 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:54.120 This because that's the title of the movie. 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:56.800 Okay, that's the movie that comes with it. 0:05:56.800 --> 0:05:57.680 It's is Death Valley. 0:05:57.720 --> 0:05:59.560 You know, it's the hottest fucking place on Earth, it 0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:02.080 is you know what I'm saying. So and it's you know, 0:06:02.200 --> 0:06:03.920 and one of the things in the movie is I 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:06.520 left La to get away from the heat, you know, 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:07.640 go to Death Valley. 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:10.000 Ironic, right, It's very ironic for sure. 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:12.400 What was that for you? Because you know, there's always 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:15.280 so many when you have so many moving parts on 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:17.440 a body of work. When it comes to getting an 0:06:17.520 --> 0:06:20.240 artist to like sign off on stuff, you have to 0:06:20.240 --> 0:06:21.280 deal with that kind of stuff. 0:06:22.000 --> 0:06:24.440 Yeah, every you know, a lot of everybody on this record, 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:26.520 I have relationships with them in the past, you know. 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:29.240 So it was pretty easy, man, It was pretty this 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:32.360 this record was pretty easy. There was nothing, nothing crazy. 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:34.760 Yeah. And also, like a lot of guys are independent, right. 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:36.520 Or you know what I'm saying, and they run in 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:38.719 the game a little bit different these days. Like you know, before, 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:40.839 dealing with majors and dealing with labels and the sign 0:06:40.920 --> 0:06:44.680 offs and the clearances and the sample clearances. She was 0:06:44.720 --> 0:06:46.400 a headache you know a lot of times. Right now 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:47.680 you can be under the radar with a lot of 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:47.960 this ship. 0:06:48.920 --> 0:06:52.160 Well, I always static Selected always told me. I was 0:06:52.200 --> 0:06:55.800 always like, hey, bro, like you guys clear it clearly samples. 0:06:55.800 --> 0:06:59.240 And he's like, man, he's like, look, bro, we just 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:01.120 left you fly. And if we got to get it 0:07:01.160 --> 0:07:02.920 clear later, that means it's doing with something. 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:06.040 Basically, if it's under a certain number, they ain't even coming. 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:08.280 They ain't wasting their time, you know, right, and and 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:10.480 if it pops off later, then you know it's all good. 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:12.880 Well, you know what sucks, dude, is like I don't 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:16.200 know if you've if you've experienced this from your perspective, 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:20.480 but a lot of like major label artists or the 0:07:20.560 --> 0:07:24.320 labels will be very specific to make sure, like I'll 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:26.400 play me something with no sample. They don't even want 0:07:26.400 --> 0:07:27.320 to clear samples any. 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:28.680 They don't want to deal with this shit because they 0:07:28.720 --> 0:07:30.840 get hit hard man, Like, like a major is gonna 0:07:30.840 --> 0:07:32.200 have to deal with that shit, you know what I mean. 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:34.040 And they're gonna get hit because it's a major and 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:36.080 they know they got bread, so they. 0:07:36.120 --> 0:07:37.640 Go different if they don't want to do it. The 0:07:37.680 --> 0:07:40.600 lawyer from Universals reaching out as opposed to like. 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:43.080 It freezes up their whole project. You know, thank god, 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:44.600 now they just got to pull a song or two 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:46.440 off a digital streaming side instead of pulling all the 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:47.679 records off the shelves. 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:50.120 That it was a lot easier. Yeah, imagine having to 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:52.160 go to every zero record. 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:54.640 Five hundred thousand records out of Tower Records, and you 0:07:54.680 --> 0:07:57.240 know all that shit that happened. You've seen it happen 0:07:57.280 --> 0:08:01.360 with Biz, You've seen it happen with Truth Hurts, with Dre, 0:08:01.480 --> 0:08:04.200 with the rock Kim song that was a big Bollywood sample. Yeah, 0:08:04.280 --> 0:08:06.160 they put that shit out and that shit got took 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:06.920 that shit off the shows. 0:08:06.960 --> 0:08:07.720 That's a lot of. 0:08:07.680 --> 0:08:10.040 Fucking money to eat you pull in a million pieces 0:08:10.040 --> 0:08:11.080 of vinyl off the shows. 0:08:11.240 --> 0:08:14.920 I have a random question that I've always been curious about. 0:08:15.200 --> 0:08:17.840 On Obie Trice's album, his first album, there's the song 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:21.000 We All Die One Day, Tony Yao starts off shouting 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:24.560 out soul assassins and then, in my opinion my favorite 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:28.480 eminem versus ever, he shouts out be real said dog, 0:08:29.440 --> 0:08:32.640 what was the Was there any sort of soul assassins 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:35.080 connection with that song? Like? Why was like Tony Yeo 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:35.920 shout y'all out? 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:38.480 Well, here's what it was man. So that song was 0:08:38.520 --> 0:08:41.720 for the next Sol Assassin album. Oh, so that's what 0:08:41.760 --> 0:08:43.400 that song was for. We had started it at that 0:08:43.480 --> 0:08:46.120 time and you know, and it was like I don't 0:08:46.120 --> 0:08:47.439 know if I want to do another one at the time, 0:08:47.480 --> 0:08:50.520 and then Obie was working on his record and Paul's 0:08:50.520 --> 0:08:51.840 I got can we use it for Obi when it's 0:08:51.840 --> 0:08:53.760 time to dors, we'll do another one And I was 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:56.200 like absolutely, no problem was push it that way. But 0:08:56.240 --> 0:08:57.240 that's what that ship was for. 0:08:57.520 --> 0:08:59.160 Crazy, So that was supposed to be on the next 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:02.760 Sol Assassins. Wow when you heard Eminem's verse on that song, 0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:05.640 because I think, I truly think it's the best Eminem 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:08.440 verse ever. And I also I think it's the most 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:11.320 underrated song of like that whole era of like g 0:09:11.520 --> 0:09:12.960 Unit Shady records. 0:09:13.000 --> 0:09:16.200 That song so crazy almost crazy. Yeah. We was managed 0:09:16.200 --> 0:09:18.360 by Paul for like six seven years. 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:20.400 Yeah, so at the time, you know, we was rolling thick, 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:22.360 so everything was in the house back then. 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:27.280 So we just had a names up here shout I'm. 0:09:27.120 --> 0:09:28.959 Gonna see him in New York next week. I love Neams. 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:31.680 He's great. He's just like kind of just vintage nineties, 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:32.720 like disrespect. 0:09:32.840 --> 0:09:34.160 Yeah, all day long. 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:36.160 Man, he told me a story. He was like, yeah, 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:39.000 so you know his lyrics on his due, I mean, 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:41.120 his lyrics all the time are pretty crazy. But he 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:44.000 was like yeah, man, so like me and Paul went 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:46.080 to Spotify and we're in a room full of like 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:49.280 people playing of the album and he's like, that's that 0:09:49.440 --> 0:09:51.440 was the one time I felt really awkward because like, 0:09:51.480 --> 0:09:52.920 I have a song where I'm talking about slapping the 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:56.440 shit out of women, like if they disrespect and he's like, 0:09:56.480 --> 0:09:58.280 you could just see all the women in the meeting 0:09:58.920 --> 0:10:02.439 just like bes like visually uncomfortable, and he's like I 0:10:02.440 --> 0:10:03.959 had to stop it and be like, guys, this is 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:04.520 all tongue and. 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:07.839 Cheek like like that. That's the best. 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:10.240 That's that early two thousands nineties energy. 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:12.280 Yeah. Man, he came with it on this shit too. Boy. 0:10:12.280 --> 0:10:12.920 It was good to hear. 0:10:13.080 --> 0:10:13.760 Yeah for sure. 0:10:13.760 --> 0:10:13.960 Man. 0:10:14.240 --> 0:10:15.439 What's your favorite song on the album? 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:18.640 Man? Oh shit, I like them all, man. 0:10:18.640 --> 0:10:20.199 I think I went through periods or this one was 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:22.400 my favorite that I recorded, this one, This was my favorite. 0:10:22.400 --> 0:10:25.120 This was my favorite. So right now, man, I'm just 0:10:25.160 --> 0:10:26.959 you know, out here just enjoying. 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:30.040 Yeah, dude, Like, let's just be clear. You have Scarface 0:10:30.120 --> 0:10:34.400 on this album with Freddie Gibbs. You got ev Demo, 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:37.520 Genesis jay Worthy too. I mean, this is crazy method. 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:40.400 Man is Slick Rick? How do you get Slick Rick 0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:42.280 on a record in twenty twenty three? 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:45.040 Just be patient, man, Just just be patient. I reached 0:10:45.080 --> 0:10:47.520 out to you know, it's like pretty much man, the 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:49.120 homies all came through. I reached out and said, Rick, 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:51.000 we're doing this. He's a fan, yeah, a fan of mine, 0:10:51.080 --> 0:10:53.600 and he should be and he does. He plays jump 0:10:53.600 --> 0:10:56.559 Around every night in the show, one of his favorite songs. Ever, 0:10:57.080 --> 0:10:58.480 So when I reached out and let him know what 0:10:58.559 --> 0:10:59.880 I was doing, He's like, yeah, I got you. Where's 0:10:59.880 --> 0:11:02.880 the beat? Gave him the beat and I had methemat 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:05.120 on it already, and you know, that was probably like 0:11:05.160 --> 0:11:06.160 two years ago that song. 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:07.640 Was been doing. I want to say one of the 0:11:07.640 --> 0:11:11.160 first singles was the record with be Real Ran and Cube, right, 0:11:12.080 --> 0:11:14.319 And I remember seeing that and being like, Yo, you 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:18.040 don't see mc wren's name anywhere anymore. Nah, like that 0:11:18.040 --> 0:11:20.959 that's a big deal to get him in Cube together 0:11:21.000 --> 0:11:23.000 on a song in twenty twenty three. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:11:23.160 --> 0:11:26.280 especially with be Real. Like if you just think about 0:11:26.320 --> 0:11:28.800 like La hip hop, Like that's a crazy comedy. 0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:30.160 That's what I was thinking, Like what do we do 0:11:30.240 --> 0:11:32.480 with this? Man? Like b ro was on like where 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:33.720 do we go with this song? Right here? 0:11:33.720 --> 0:11:36.000 And I was just like, Yo, let's get Cube and 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:40.000 Ran and Drey and Snoop and Snoop is gonna do 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:42.000 they just timing, just timing, you know what I mean. 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:43.800 I just wanted to talk in the intros, He's like 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:45.280 I got you at the time, and I was like, 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:48.360 I got to turn this shit in now, but give 0:11:48.400 --> 0:11:50.080 me next time for you. 0:11:50.200 --> 0:11:53.760 Man, I feel like your production style is so unique, 0:11:53.960 --> 0:11:57.920 and it's like I feel like you there's producers these days, 0:11:57.920 --> 0:12:02.199 I feel like have kind of lost the sense of 0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:04.760 like style, at least the bigger ones. Like I feel 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:07.160 like a lot of these guys's beats are kind of interchangeable, 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:08.440 Like you could tell me that it was produced by 0:12:08.480 --> 0:12:10.520 this person or this person. You're like, oh yeah, But 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:13.600 I feel like DJ Muggs your shit is so like 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:17.240 you have your signature sound like and I'm just curious, 0:12:17.240 --> 0:12:20.360 like when you first started making beats, what was like 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:24.240 your like where did you draw inspiration from? Man? 0:12:24.320 --> 0:12:26.840 Like, well, first, you know, coming up, man, you had 0:12:26.880 --> 0:12:28.400 to be different and have your own style. 0:12:28.520 --> 0:12:31.080 You was whack. You couldn't even use a sample somebody used. 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:32.360 If you did, you was garbage. 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:35.280 And you had to find your own samples. 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:37.600 Like original samples, like if somebody yeah, if you ah 0:12:37.640 --> 0:12:39.720 those drums, they use those drums because there was something 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:42.679 about that, you know what I'm saying. And even for cypressmen, 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:45.120 the way we dressed the slang. We have our own slang, 0:12:45.160 --> 0:12:47.360 you know, dressed, have our own look, have our own 0:12:47.440 --> 0:12:49.080 musical style. So all that was important. 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:50.640 You was whack. You was a bidist. So for me, 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:52.040 I was. 0:12:54.000 --> 0:12:55.840 I grew up with a lot of classic rock around 0:12:55.840 --> 0:12:57.640 and and my mom was in the motown, so I 0:12:57.640 --> 0:12:59.960 had a lot of you know, psychedelic classic rock fucking 0:13:00.160 --> 0:13:06.600 influences Led Zeppelin, Jimmy Hendricks, but with hip hop, run DMC, COOJ, 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:10.360 Public Enemy, and then everything Molly mal did, every single 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:12.160 Molly mag that came out with back in those days, 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:13.960 it seemed like he was reinventing the game with every 0:13:13.960 --> 0:13:14.600 fucking single. 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:15.319 You know what I'm saying. 0:13:15.600 --> 0:13:17.520 When you heard the Bridge and then you heard Poison 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:20.280 and then you heard Raw and you was like, what 0:13:20.320 --> 0:13:22.400 the fuck is this shit? You know what I'm saying, 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:27.119 and then everything Larry Smith, did you know Ultra Magnetics, 0:13:27.160 --> 0:13:29.960 Booget Down Productions, like all that shit, right, there was 0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:34.000 like all that like mixed up in gumbo and then 0:13:34.440 --> 0:13:36.480 going through my filter and spit it back out. 0:13:36.640 --> 0:13:38.360 I wasn't to say too like you were very like 0:13:38.480 --> 0:13:40.320 engaged with what was going on in New York too, 0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:41.400 for being a West Coast guy. 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:42.800 Yeah, I grew up in New York. I moved here 0:13:42.800 --> 0:13:44.800 when I was twelve, and then I would always go back. 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:46.440 I would always stay out there. I had an apartment 0:13:46.440 --> 0:13:48.559 out there for like fifteen years. Yeah, I would always 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:48.840 be in here. 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:50.480 You guys did the second. 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:54.600 Yeah, because you know, back then we start, you blow up, 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:58.720 and then it's just too much shit going on, friends, shit, 0:13:58.800 --> 0:13:59.560 everybody hanging out. 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:01.720 I was like this over here, which is us locked 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:02.760 in a room by ourselves. 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:05.720 Yeah, I'm sure you guys in LA after that first album, 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:08.120 the studio sessions, Yeah, help would. 0:14:07.920 --> 0:14:10.920 Be distracted and everybody was. You couldn't and then everybody 0:14:11.000 --> 0:14:12.960 was busy. You know, there's all these new people around 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:15.320 and this and that and millions of dollars, you know, 0:14:15.360 --> 0:14:16.920 and we're twenty one years old. So it was like, 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:20.000 let's go to New York and it's just us getting up, 0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:22.800 going to the studio, back to the crib, back to 0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:23.280 the studio. 0:14:23.400 --> 0:14:24.040 That's all we did. 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:26.280 That shit's fire Man, and. 0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:28.880 We knocked that shit out in a month. The record. 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:30.280 We knocked that record out of the month. 0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:32.960 The label was like, we need that shit now, so 0:14:33.000 --> 0:14:36.120 we went in and knocked it out right quick. I 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:38.280 suppose the first record took like three four years. It 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:39.960 was a whole life, you know, up to that point. 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:43.000 The second one, I think we only did I think 0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:44.600 some of the songs even came out before. I think 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:47.320 we only did eight songs new ones because we had 0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:51.400 hand on the glock had already came out. A t 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:53.680 DK came out, a White Man Can't Jump soundtrack, Yep, 0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:54.640 you know what I mean. There was a couple of 0:14:54.680 --> 0:14:57.720 interludes on there, so you know, some of that shit 0:14:57.760 --> 0:15:00.520 had came out already, but that shit was fucking and 0:15:00.520 --> 0:15:03.320 then sound Scan was brand new when that record came out. 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:06.320 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I forgot. SoundScan wasn't around, Like. 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:08.440 It just came out like in between our first and 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:09.320 second album. 0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:11.840 No, it's crazy too, because I just think, like in 0:15:11.960 --> 0:15:14.880 terms of, like, you know, for whatever reason, I feel 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:18.640 like somehow Cypress Hill gets like overlooked when we talk 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:21.800 about like goat conversations like greatest groups of all time. 0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:23.880 I mean, I feel like if you grew up in 0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:26.480 LA or you grew up on the West Coast, you understand. 0:15:26.520 --> 0:15:28.720 But I feel like, for whatever reason, you guys are 0:15:28.720 --> 0:15:31.800 not underrated, but somehow underrated. Does that make sense, Like 0:15:31.840 --> 0:15:35.040 you guys are still doing festivals, it's I mean, platinum records, 0:15:35.080 --> 0:15:37.400 But I still feel like for whatever reason, like like 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:39.360 we got to bring up that name in the mixed 0:15:39.400 --> 0:15:41.120 more when we talk about the greatest groups of all time? 0:15:41.280 --> 0:15:43.080 Right right right? Yeah? 0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:45.040 Man, I don't know shit. I can give a fuck, 0:15:45.120 --> 0:15:46.440 you know what I mean. What we set out to do, 0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:48.480 we're doing it, you know what I mean. So that's 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:49.560 all I give a fuck about. 0:15:49.680 --> 0:15:51.840 So how did you end up getting with House of 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:54.280 Pain back in the day before? Cause I knew you 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:55.400 guys had a little falling out for. 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:56.960 A sec, but it was an accident. 0:15:57.040 --> 0:16:01.840 Man, Like I was dating this girl that actually was 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:05.360 cousins of Everlast his DJ, and I would go over 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:07.000 there and he'd be at the crib and I'd be 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:10.880 like all right and the Cypress demo the Cypress we 0:16:10.880 --> 0:16:13.200 was signed already, but the album. I had the album 0:16:13.240 --> 0:16:15.400 on the red cassette and I gave it to her, 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:17.840 but the album didn't come out for six months. So 0:16:17.880 --> 0:16:19.640 the next time I went over there a couple of times, 0:16:19.720 --> 0:16:22.480 Everlast was there. He was listening to the tape. He's like, yo, 0:16:22.520 --> 0:16:23.920 we got to get in the studio. I was like, nah, 0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:26.720 I'm good man. And after three or four times, I 0:16:26.800 --> 0:16:28.360 was like, I was talking to b real and Bro 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:29.720 was like, man, just fuck it funk with him. I 0:16:29.800 --> 0:16:31.160 was like, all right, So I went in and did 0:16:31.200 --> 0:16:34.400 put your head out the crib and I was like, Okay, 0:16:34.400 --> 0:16:37.040 this is cool. Then the homies was bumping it, and 0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:39.360 then I was like, I got the song called jump Around, 0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:42.560 so I had already recorded it with Soundobe. I recorded 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:44.440 it with Daddy Freddy from Ragg Him Up and Hip Hop, 0:16:44.480 --> 0:16:47.240 and I had a song had the hook. He came 0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:49.080 in and wrote the shit and I was like, now 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:50.960 rewrite it with that cadence right there, and he wrote 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:53.280 the shit and then we had to joint and to. 0:16:53.280 --> 0:16:55.120 One of the greatest party songs of all time. 0:16:55.200 --> 0:16:57.760 Shop Shop the deal Man I know funk Master Flex 0:16:57.800 --> 0:17:00.040 wanted to sign us that priority records for like I 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:02.440 think it was like fifty five sixty g's. He had 0:17:02.440 --> 0:17:03.640 special head over there. At the time. 0:17:04.080 --> 0:17:07.520 I didn't even know fuck Flex worked at Priory. He's crazy. 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:10.680 And then it was weird because Monica Lynch show for 0:17:10.720 --> 0:17:13.199 a Tommy Boy wanted to sign us, and so I 0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:14.719 went and had a meeting with her, and she was like, 0:17:14.840 --> 0:17:17.320 she was irish, so she's like, this reminds me of 0:17:17.320 --> 0:17:19.760 my family. This is like my brothers would go to church, 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:23.680 then they'd go to uh to the bar and get 0:17:23.720 --> 0:17:26.920 drunk and fight. So she got it and off the bat, 0:17:26.960 --> 0:17:29.040 you know what I mean. So she signed us. She 0:17:29.080 --> 0:17:31.880 got us like three hundred dollars back then, and then 0:17:32.240 --> 0:17:34.360 I hooked him up in our management. The guys who 0:17:34.359 --> 0:17:36.359 did offer our pictures. Huke up with those guys, and 0:17:36.880 --> 0:17:38.760 David Press, who did our video, I come up with them. 0:17:38.800 --> 0:17:40.120 So it was pretty much the formula. 0:17:40.320 --> 0:17:42.480 So you kind of just say, here's our formula, run 0:17:42.520 --> 0:17:42.840 with it. 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:44.760 Run with it, and it worked and worked with it 0:17:44.800 --> 0:17:45.920 like a motherfucker. 0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:49.040 Like a motherfucker yo, I always wondered. So there was 0:17:49.080 --> 0:17:52.480 like this era I'm really close with Dilated People's and 0:17:52.600 --> 0:17:55.000 Raka and Iris Science and Bamboo and obviously Shot I 0:17:55.080 --> 0:17:58.440 did the best. Hell yeah, I love those guys. They 0:17:58.480 --> 0:18:01.920 really opened my world taste in another whole other way 0:18:02.840 --> 0:18:05.840 to like digging into like different ship that I was 0:18:05.840 --> 0:18:08.560 into at the time. But I remember as a kid 0:18:08.880 --> 0:18:12.159 there was the random because you were close, like you 0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:14.639 were cool with Paul obviously right, you're cool with M. 0:18:15.119 --> 0:18:18.280 But then there's like this weird beef between like Dilated 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:21.600 People's Everlasting. Emine, did you ever try to like bring 0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:22.760 those guys together? Nah? 0:18:22.760 --> 0:18:23.640 It was weird, man. 0:18:23.720 --> 0:18:27.320 I think I think Everlast from what I remember correctly, 0:18:27.359 --> 0:18:29.879 you know, don't quote me here, but I think Everlast 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:32.160 scene M on the elevator and M just didn't say 0:18:32.160 --> 0:18:34.480 nothing to him. But M's like he didn't look the 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:36.840 same right and didn't realize that he was He didn't 0:18:36.840 --> 0:18:39.399 realize who he was made right, and and was a 0:18:39.440 --> 0:18:41.679 fucking Everlast fan, you know from what I hear, so 0:18:42.359 --> 0:18:45.399 Everlast just you know, I don't know what happened. 0:18:45.400 --> 0:18:46.760 Then he wrote some shit about. 0:18:46.640 --> 0:18:48.119 Him, Yeah, and then I remember there was like the 0:18:48.200 --> 0:18:51.280 Dilated Ship and then Evidence had a song called Searching 0:18:51.320 --> 0:18:53.679 for Bobby Fisher. So I was just wondering because you 0:18:53.680 --> 0:18:56.199 were kind of like, it's felt like Switzerland. You might 0:18:56.200 --> 0:18:57.200 have you know, I don't know if you try to 0:18:57.200 --> 0:18:57.720 put a call in. 0:18:57.960 --> 0:19:00.320 Nah nah, I just figured all that y'all fucked up. 0:19:01.000 --> 0:19:03.959 You're fucking with them. Got good luck with that ship man, 0:19:04.000 --> 0:19:06.639 like even why But I don't even think I heard 0:19:06.680 --> 0:19:07.640 the Dilated song ever. 0:19:07.840 --> 0:19:10.240 Yeah, there was an evidence song called searching for Bobby Fisher. 0:19:10.280 --> 0:19:10.760 That was that. 0:19:10.840 --> 0:19:13.800 I heard that one now, but I had a napster hit. Yeah, 0:19:13.840 --> 0:19:16.280 so yeah, I brought Paul. I remember when I met Paul. 0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:18.119 I flew him out to LA to meet with me 0:19:18.200 --> 0:19:20.560 and I had a barbecue to manage Cyprus and he 0:19:20.600 --> 0:19:22.320 came out here. And that's how I met Paul because 0:19:22.359 --> 0:19:24.680 the Theo Theo was my lawyer and I was like, yeah, 0:19:24.680 --> 0:19:27.119 I need a new manager, bro, And he's like, well 0:19:27.200 --> 0:19:31.680 you resist before before Rock Superstar album, so like two 0:19:31.760 --> 0:19:35.200 thousand ninety nine, and he's like, yo, I got this 0:19:35.200 --> 0:19:38.000 this lawyer. He's got an ear like me, and he's 0:19:38.000 --> 0:19:40.600 managing this artist Eminem And we didn't blow up there. 0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:43.399 I was like, I flew his ass out, had a 0:19:43.400 --> 0:19:46.080 barbecue and locked in with Paul what. 0:19:45.800 --> 0:19:47.840 What was was? It labeled like why did you guys 0:19:47.880 --> 0:19:50.280 do a rap superstar and a rock superstar? Difference? 0:19:50.520 --> 0:19:53.320 Because check this out. So we was up at Columbia 0:19:53.480 --> 0:19:57.840 and you know, now we're going into the fifth album, 0:19:57.880 --> 0:19:59.159 so we'd go to the Urban Department. 0:19:59.240 --> 0:20:02.240 That was after the after Doctor Green number before after 0:20:02.480 --> 0:20:03.159 after That's right. 0:20:03.760 --> 0:20:05.440 It was like, yeah, that was four. There was a 0:20:05.520 --> 0:20:07.320 fifth album now. So we would go up to the 0:20:07.359 --> 0:20:09.320 label and was like, all right, this scoose is marketing plan. 0:20:09.400 --> 0:20:11.119 I go to the Urban Department. There was like, no, no, 0:20:11.160 --> 0:20:13.440 you guys are you guys are alternative? 0:20:13.760 --> 0:20:14.440 Like no, we ain't. 0:20:14.800 --> 0:20:16.119 So we go up to the We go up to 0:20:16.160 --> 0:20:18.280 the next floor and they was like no, you guys 0:20:18.320 --> 0:20:21.679 are the Urban Department. And they didn't work together, and 0:20:21.720 --> 0:20:24.280 everybody's passing the buck. Nobody wanted to do their fucking job, 0:20:24.320 --> 0:20:26.200 and I was like, fucking pieces of shit. 0:20:26.320 --> 0:20:26.680 Check this out. 0:20:26.680 --> 0:20:28.679 I'm gonna give you all a rock song and a 0:20:28.760 --> 0:20:30.639 rap song. So now what's your fucking excuse? 0:20:30.800 --> 0:20:31.159 You can work? 0:20:31.560 --> 0:20:32.880 You got one? You got one? So I did. 0:20:33.000 --> 0:20:34.600 We had a song called Can't Get the Best of 0:20:34.600 --> 0:20:37.600 Me and Rap Superstar, and then I walked into the 0:20:37.600 --> 0:20:40.240 meeting with Donnieina and he was like, no, this is 0:20:40.280 --> 0:20:43.040 the single. We're not doing rock song, but this is 0:20:43.080 --> 0:20:45.240 the single. I'm putting all the money behind this one. 0:20:45.240 --> 0:20:47.679 I was like, Fuck, this ain't gonna work. 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Yeah, 0:23:30.080 --> 0:23:32.760 because I was because coming from the radio side, you know, 0:23:32.760 --> 0:23:35.760 I've done radio my whole life, and like you said, 0:23:35.800 --> 0:23:39.800 there's sometimes where there be a record like uh there 0:23:39.840 --> 0:23:41.520 was a shot on my I have a friend a 0:23:41.640 --> 0:23:43.439 yellow Wolf foo at a song and he put a 0:23:43.480 --> 0:23:47.320 song out through Shady called Let's Roll. But Kid Rock 0:23:47.400 --> 0:23:50.040 was on the hook, so he ran into that issue 0:23:50.040 --> 0:23:52.000 where he was like a hip hop artist. But they're like, 0:23:52.320 --> 0:23:52.919 we don't know what to. 0:23:52.920 --> 0:23:54.600 Do with it because you know it's like hip hop andspa. 0:23:54.760 --> 0:23:56.720 But it's like we grew bigger than hip hop. We 0:23:56.840 --> 0:23:59.800 just became our own thing. You know, for sure, we 0:23:59.840 --> 0:24:03.240 got so big and you know, just harnessing that rock 0:24:03.240 --> 0:24:06.320 and roll energy, like I said, Public Enemy, ll run DMC, 0:24:07.040 --> 0:24:09.480 Beastie boys, you know what I mean, and just coming 0:24:09.480 --> 0:24:12.400 from that DNA from that side. And so that's why 0:24:12.400 --> 0:24:14.040 I was like, all right, here's something from both of y'all. 0:24:14.280 --> 0:24:16.399 But both of y'all can work and nobody can complain 0:24:16.440 --> 0:24:18.639 and point fingers because the record before they dropped the 0:24:18.640 --> 0:24:20.639 ball because nobody was working it, because there was nobody 0:24:20.640 --> 0:24:23.320 wanted to do their fucking job. The point fingers, right, 0:24:23.480 --> 0:24:25.120 So I say, maybe this is the way the way 0:24:25.160 --> 0:24:27.240 around it. And plus at that time, you know, I 0:24:27.280 --> 0:24:30.240 was seeing all these whack motherfuckers that couldn't really rhyme, 0:24:30.280 --> 0:24:33.200 but they was wrapping on rock shit where they sounded decent, 0:24:33.240 --> 0:24:34.879 you know, and they was having these big careers. 0:24:34.960 --> 0:24:36.800 What year was that, ninety nine? 0:24:37.200 --> 0:24:39.960 That was very much that was very much the the 0:24:40.160 --> 0:24:41.320 era of that happening. 0:24:41.560 --> 0:24:44.280 So then I was on the and the other layer 0:24:44.320 --> 0:24:45.880 to that shit was me like, oh yeah, well, oh yeah, 0:24:45.880 --> 0:24:47.359 I could do this shit too. Yes, we do some 0:24:47.440 --> 0:24:49.400 rock shit and let me let me bang on y'all 0:24:49.400 --> 0:24:51.200 motherfuckers with this ship. And then at the same time 0:24:51.240 --> 0:24:55.879 I produced them some shit for Pearl Jam and Sonic 0:24:55.920 --> 0:24:58.320 Youth Crazy. I mean, it's some different rock bands just 0:24:58.320 --> 0:24:59.720 to like let me see what I can do and just. 0:24:59.800 --> 0:25:01.280 Don't you know you did to a tumble pro Jam 0:25:01.400 --> 0:25:04.800 that's amazing. Shout out to Pro Jam, Yo. You guys 0:25:04.920 --> 0:25:07.119 were a part of like some of the crazy, you know. 0:25:07.119 --> 0:25:09.280 I always tell people like there was festivals, and like 0:25:09.320 --> 0:25:12.280 people think of festivals these days, I feel like festivals 0:25:12.280 --> 0:25:14.919 in like the late nineties early two thousands were like 0:25:15.040 --> 0:25:17.560 extremely like different. 0:25:17.920 --> 0:25:18.800 Everything was different. 0:25:19.000 --> 0:25:20.400 The drugs were really out there. 0:25:20.480 --> 0:25:21.920 The nineties was the shit, man. 0:25:21.960 --> 0:25:23.879 It was like it was one of the best times 0:25:23.920 --> 0:25:25.720 period and I'm blessed to be able to be in 0:25:25.760 --> 0:25:27.800 that time. And then also this new time with all 0:25:27.800 --> 0:25:30.080 this new technology, for sure be able to be in 0:25:30.119 --> 0:25:31.560 an analog world in this digital. 0:25:31.560 --> 0:25:33.600 NB relevant in both. But I was gonna ask you, 0:25:33.640 --> 0:25:36.760 what is like the craziest crowd where you you guys 0:25:36.760 --> 0:25:38.719 were performing and you just looked out and you were like, 0:25:39.440 --> 0:25:40.480 what the fuck is going on? 0:25:40.520 --> 0:25:42.840 A couple of times, one of them was was the 0:25:42.840 --> 0:25:44.840 Wedding Festival. We were the first rap group to ever 0:25:44.880 --> 0:25:47.679 headline reading, you know, one hundred and fifty thousand crazy 0:25:47.720 --> 0:25:49.280 looking at that, and then you know, motherfuckers with the 0:25:49.320 --> 0:25:51.760 soccer chants and everybody with the flags, you know what 0:25:51.760 --> 0:25:52.000 I mean? 0:25:52.040 --> 0:25:53.600 It just looked like some revolution shit. 0:25:53.680 --> 0:25:57.320 And then it was probably the ninety three Woodstock ninety 0:25:57.320 --> 0:26:00.239 three Woodstock five one hundred and fifty thousand people. They 0:26:00.240 --> 0:26:02.320 had to fly us into a helicopter because the traffic 0:26:02.560 --> 0:26:04.240 was fucking five hour traffic jams. 0:26:04.320 --> 0:26:07.960 Yet I just watched the ninety nine Woodstock documentary, which 0:26:08.040 --> 0:26:10.679 was looked insane. Yeah, ninety three had to be crazy. 0:26:10.960 --> 0:26:12.840 Half a million people, half a million people. Who do 0:26:12.880 --> 0:26:14.320 you remember who was on the bill with you? 0:26:15.480 --> 0:26:18.679 I think Santana was after us. And because we were 0:26:18.760 --> 0:26:20.480 in and out, there wasn't even dressrooms. 0:26:20.480 --> 0:26:23.040 It was we don't want y'all hanging out in and out. 0:26:23.160 --> 0:26:24.879 Yeah, yeah, that's the only one I remember. 0:26:25.119 --> 0:26:26.159 That's fucking crazy, man. 0:26:26.200 --> 0:26:27.879 But a lot of palooz was popping off back then, 0:26:28.080 --> 0:26:30.360 smoking groove tours, you know, we did every smoking grooves 0:26:30.600 --> 0:26:31.760 pretty much, like five of them. 0:26:31.680 --> 0:26:32.600 In a row. Yo. 0:26:32.800 --> 0:26:36.200 Has there ever been like somebody who's for whatever reason 0:26:36.280 --> 0:26:38.159 escaped you in terms of someone you want to work with, 0:26:38.160 --> 0:26:40.000 because I feel like you've worked with so many people. 0:26:41.119 --> 0:26:44.000 Nah, man, I'm all about building, man. Like even with Cyprus, 0:26:44.040 --> 0:26:46.160 I was like, I never wanted to be a producer, 0:26:46.200 --> 0:26:49.960 where like my me coming up was depending on somebody 0:26:49.960 --> 0:26:52.080 else's success, right, So I was like, we was always 0:26:52.080 --> 0:26:55.720 about building our own shit. No guest appearances, our own shit, 0:26:55.800 --> 0:26:59.000 do our own shit, you know what I mean. And 0:26:58.680 --> 0:27:02.159 even even now, I like newer artists, like working with 0:27:02.160 --> 0:27:04.679 with a tf like young in Rome Streets. 0:27:04.720 --> 0:27:06.520 When I first met Rome crazy. 0:27:06.200 --> 0:27:09.200 You know, all Rome's fucking boom, you know, pre Gazelda 0:27:09.280 --> 0:27:11.520 days and just finding these youngsters, I get more. I 0:27:11.560 --> 0:27:15.480 got more excitement out of that ship, you know, But no, 0:27:15.640 --> 0:27:18.160 I think it probably shod day, you know what I mean. 0:27:18.960 --> 0:27:20.880 I'd want to work with shod Day. But there's nobody 0:27:20.880 --> 0:27:24.200 that that. Everybody anybody else I really tripping. 0:27:24.320 --> 0:27:26.240 Did you ever get close to doing anything with Hove? 0:27:27.280 --> 0:27:29.679 Nah? I never. I don't even think I met him. 0:27:29.680 --> 0:27:34.439 Crazy, that's crazy, you would think for you, because you've 0:27:34.480 --> 0:27:36.760 been doing a lot of full collab albums. I think 0:27:36.760 --> 0:27:41.200 back to like one of the first producer MC albums 0:27:41.240 --> 0:27:43.760 to me that I kind of just heralded, like very 0:27:43.840 --> 0:27:46.200 high in my life was the first album you did 0:27:46.200 --> 0:27:51.040 with the JIT album, the Masterminds Grand Master's Grand Masters. Yeah, 0:27:51.560 --> 0:27:53.920 crazy body of work. But you've still done, like you've 0:27:53.960 --> 0:27:56.800 done such a good job of like doing these like fully, 0:27:57.400 --> 0:28:00.800 you know, cohesive collaborative albums with other artists. I feel 0:28:00.840 --> 0:28:02.800 like a lot of people are kind of doing that 0:28:02.840 --> 0:28:03.440 now as well. 0:28:04.440 --> 0:28:05.400 It wasn't on it like that. 0:28:05.600 --> 0:28:08.160 It wasn't on it the first guy I really kind 0:28:08.160 --> 0:28:08.439 of did that. 0:28:08.520 --> 0:28:09.720 You had to do in Versus Records. 0:28:10.040 --> 0:28:14.080 Yeah, just Asia ill Bill we did back in like 0:28:14.080 --> 0:28:16.080 what two three, I think it was something like that, 0:28:16.119 --> 0:28:18.680 oh four. Yeah, Me and Jiz are always clicked, man. From 0:28:18.680 --> 0:28:20.640 the first day we got into lab, we always clicked, man, 0:28:20.680 --> 0:28:22.679 And it was just everything was smooth and easy, and 0:28:23.080 --> 0:28:25.280 you know, We just kept communicating all through the times, 0:28:25.320 --> 0:28:29.880 you know, and kept in touch and then we then 0:28:29.920 --> 0:28:31.840 we got together into Grand Masters. But it was a 0:28:31.880 --> 0:28:34.480 weird time because at that time, it was right after 0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:37.480 Napster and the fucking the whole ass fell out the 0:28:37.520 --> 0:28:40.760 music industry. So we went from selling underground records two 0:28:40.800 --> 0:28:43.920 hundred and fifty thousand records to selling fucking five thousand records. 0:28:44.520 --> 0:28:48.479 So it was before YouTube, it was before Spotify, it 0:28:48.520 --> 0:28:52.000 was before Apple Music, and then the music the records 0:28:52.040 --> 0:28:53.440 weren't selling, so you was there. 0:28:53.320 --> 0:28:55.480 Was like this three or four year period. We was like, 0:28:55.520 --> 0:28:56.680 what the fuck's going on? 0:28:56.760 --> 0:28:58.520 Brow, how do we monetize it? 0:28:58.600 --> 0:29:00.520 Nobody knew what was going on. It was a weird 0:29:00.600 --> 0:29:02.760 ass time, you know what I mean. So alls I 0:29:02.840 --> 0:29:05.280 know is you just stay consistent to keep going. That's 0:29:05.320 --> 0:29:08.000 the one thing about my crew man from me Al 0:29:08.200 --> 0:29:12.240 Cartoon is Stevan Cyprus. We just never stopped. Yeah, just 0:29:12.280 --> 0:29:13.200 never stopped through it all. 0:29:13.280 --> 0:29:16.720 I was gonna ask you, what is something that you've 0:29:16.880 --> 0:29:20.000 because you're obviously, like you said, there was that point 0:29:20.000 --> 0:29:23.000 in time where you've been a part of every for 0:29:23.040 --> 0:29:24.720 the most part, era of hip hop in terms of 0:29:24.760 --> 0:29:26.400 like the way the business is right, Like you guys 0:29:26.400 --> 0:29:28.480 first came home with SoundScan, hit now with faster. 0:29:28.360 --> 0:29:30.400 Eighties like eighties. My first group, you gotta remember, with 0:29:30.400 --> 0:29:32.840 seven A three. I didn't know in nineteen eighty eight. 0:29:32.920 --> 0:29:35.520 Like my first gold record was Colors seven A three 0:29:35.560 --> 0:29:38.560 mad Man World in the movie Colors. So I signed 0:29:38.600 --> 0:29:40.480 with seven A three in eighty eight and we was, 0:29:41.000 --> 0:29:45.560 we signed a rush management shot and we're doing stadium tours, 0:29:46.320 --> 0:29:48.400 opening up for Salt and Pepper, opening up for Hammer, 0:29:48.480 --> 0:29:52.000 opening up for Tony Tony tone Em Hammer. Yeah, we 0:29:52.440 --> 0:29:55.160 was on the tour with Hammer, Tony, Tony Tony and today. 0:29:55.120 --> 0:29:56.600 What's the mc hammer tour? 0:29:56.800 --> 0:30:00.200 Like back then, stadiums crazy as fuck. 0:30:00.200 --> 0:30:01.920 Like I don't think people understand like he was like 0:30:01.960 --> 0:30:04.840 a fucking like pop star for real. Super I have 0:30:04.880 --> 0:30:05.840 an mc hammer Barbie. 0:30:05.960 --> 0:30:07.040 I'm talking, I'm talking. 0:30:07.240 --> 0:30:09.680 You see mc hammer Barbie sitting now, yeah. 0:30:09.680 --> 0:30:11.760 Talking, you know, twenty five thousand people a night and 0:30:11.800 --> 0:30:14.640 it's doing stadiums Man's you know, and then Salt and Pepper, 0:30:14.720 --> 0:30:17.360 Kwame was on the tour. Wow, so you know, just 0:30:17.400 --> 0:30:19.480 being young, and then i'd come back to Cypress, you know, 0:30:19.520 --> 0:30:21.760 and like I'm eighteen nineteen and I was like, yo, 0:30:22.640 --> 0:30:24.640 figuring this music shit out fellas, you know what I mean. 0:30:24.680 --> 0:30:28.120 So seven eighty three really taught me about the music business, 0:30:28.160 --> 0:30:29.960 and I just brought all that fucking knowledge back to 0:30:29.960 --> 0:30:33.080 Cypress because there was no Google or right even even 0:30:33.080 --> 0:30:34.400 to learn the DJ, I had to go to the 0:30:34.400 --> 0:30:38.040 club and watch the DJ and fucking listen to the radio. 0:30:38.200 --> 0:30:41.000 That's how I learned. There was no scratch Academy and 0:30:41.040 --> 0:30:41.560 no shit. 0:30:41.600 --> 0:30:43.360 Right, none of that. You just had to really just 0:30:43.440 --> 0:30:44.320 learn on the job. 0:30:44.760 --> 0:30:46.960 Just watch, watch and try to remember and figure it out. 0:30:47.400 --> 0:30:50.360 Was I always heard mc Everyone always says Hammers like 0:30:50.360 --> 0:30:52.600 a real ass dude, for real, for real, like he's certified. 0:30:52.680 --> 0:30:54.920 Like but but you also hear like he always had 0:30:54.920 --> 0:30:56.080 like a big entourage with him. 0:30:56.120 --> 0:30:57.320 Oh he had a big assentsraage. 0:30:57.480 --> 0:30:59.440 Yeah, like you you'd come on the stage, you know, 0:30:59.480 --> 0:31:02.840 your little hype man and maybe one little dancer, and 0:31:02.920 --> 0:31:05.440 he'd come out with like sixteen dancers, crazy, you know 0:31:05.480 --> 0:31:06.640 what I mean, and a hype man that was like 0:31:06.680 --> 0:31:09.640 Little John back then, like screaming and shit talking shit. 0:31:09.760 --> 0:31:11.920 So yeah, that was crazy man. 0:31:12.200 --> 0:31:14.720 It was a good experience to have those tours, you know, 0:31:14.800 --> 0:31:17.600 and then with cypress you like I already knew. I 0:31:17.600 --> 0:31:19.800 already knew what's going to happen. I was like, the 0:31:19.880 --> 0:31:21.560 success is waiting for us in the future. We just 0:31:21.600 --> 0:31:22.160 got to get to it. 0:31:22.160 --> 0:31:26.200 Fellas I was gonna say for you, though, what are 0:31:26.240 --> 0:31:29.160 the things that you could give advice to somebody who's 0:31:29.160 --> 0:31:32.400 an independent artist, maybe has like a modest following. How 0:31:32.440 --> 0:31:36.239 can they really monetize music now? Because I feel like 0:31:36.480 --> 0:31:39.600 it's not what it used to be. Streaming doesn't pay 0:31:39.600 --> 0:31:40.120 the greatest. 0:31:40.200 --> 0:31:41.800 Well, you got to build a career, man, So I 0:31:42.320 --> 0:31:45.760 think you got a tour. You got to go through shows, man, 0:31:45.800 --> 0:31:47.480 even if you're not getting paid. You go playing for 0:31:47.600 --> 0:31:50.040 the nine people, always doing the place. The next time 0:31:50.080 --> 0:31:52.040 you're playing from the twenty, next time you're playing front 0:31:52.040 --> 0:31:53.760 the thirty five. You know, in two years and be 0:31:53.760 --> 0:31:56.160 one hundred and fifty people there. So the energy of 0:31:56.200 --> 0:31:58.040 the shows, and make sure you have your merch and 0:31:58.040 --> 0:32:00.240 you're doing your pop ups and you're live on it, 0:32:00.280 --> 0:32:02.240 and you're live on social media talking to your people, 0:32:02.280 --> 0:32:05.240 you know, and then doing your streaming and be consistent. 0:32:05.320 --> 0:32:08.120 And I think all that ship together. You you put 0:32:08.160 --> 0:32:10.400 that together, and you stay consistent, you build a career. 0:32:10.640 --> 0:32:13.880 You know, some motherfuckers just want to like stream ship 0:32:14.120 --> 0:32:15.920 and maybe might get a show in New York and 0:32:15.920 --> 0:32:18.600 then that's it. Or you might get a show and 0:32:18.600 --> 0:32:20.160 then they don't They get money there, but they don't 0:32:20.160 --> 0:32:22.000 want to go do shows in other cities because there's 0:32:22.000 --> 0:32:23.240 no bread. But I was like, you got to go 0:32:23.320 --> 0:32:24.280 plant the flag. 0:32:24.040 --> 0:32:25.720 Bro, You you got to build the fan base. 0:32:25.760 --> 0:32:26.719 You gotta go build it. 0:32:27.040 --> 0:32:28.560 I always tell people like, just because you have a 0:32:28.560 --> 0:32:31.160 big song doesn't mean you have a big following. There's 0:32:31.160 --> 0:32:33.680 people who have platinum records that can't sell a fucking 0:32:33.760 --> 0:32:35.320 concert ticket period, Like. 0:32:35.520 --> 0:32:37.600 And that's going to tell you where you're what fans 0:32:37.600 --> 0:32:38.440 you really have? Man? 0:32:38.680 --> 0:32:40.800 Is it like are you actually getting streams because you 0:32:40.800 --> 0:32:43.920 have features? Or are you getting streams because you have 0:32:44.000 --> 0:32:46.080 fans that really love you? And then that's going to 0:32:46.120 --> 0:32:48.920 translate to those people will come out and don't support 0:32:48.960 --> 0:32:49.800 you shirt. 0:32:51.440 --> 0:32:52.320 So a lot of that ships. 0:32:52.400 --> 0:32:53.720 It's a little pumped up, you know what I mean 0:32:53.760 --> 0:32:55.200 when you got a lot of features on your records, 0:32:55.200 --> 0:32:56.920 because you'll see all you don't you can't sell a 0:32:56.920 --> 0:32:59.040 hard ticket outside of you can't even sell a hard 0:32:59.040 --> 0:32:59.720 ticket in your city. 0:32:59.720 --> 0:33:01.920 You can only get on shows with motherfuckers. 0:33:02.400 --> 0:33:06.400 I was gonna ask you, you tell me the story 0:33:06.400 --> 0:33:08.800 on how you and Alchemist met and how he became 0:33:08.840 --> 0:33:09.760 a part of the sol. 0:33:10.120 --> 0:33:11.520 I met al when he was like thirteen. 0:33:11.880 --> 0:33:15.040 I had this manager and they was like, hey, you 0:33:15.080 --> 0:33:16.400 want to make a lot of money, and I was like, 0:33:17.160 --> 0:33:18.920 well when you talk about six. So we got this 0:33:18.960 --> 0:33:22.000 little rap group, two little white kids from Beverly Hills, 0:33:22.080 --> 0:33:23.840 and I was like, get that bullshit the fuck out here. 0:33:23.960 --> 0:33:25.320 Yeah it was James Conson. 0:33:25.360 --> 0:33:26.680 Yeah. I didn't meet him. I didn't see him. 0:33:26.680 --> 0:33:28.360 I was just like the concept of that shit was like, 0:33:28.480 --> 0:33:30.160 were you trying to do like a criss cross? 0:33:30.360 --> 0:33:32.080 Yeah, but white Chris Raby House of Pain. 0:33:32.120 --> 0:33:34.880 And I was like, so I think they ended up 0:33:34.880 --> 0:33:36.480 bringing him to be real and be real work with him. 0:33:36.480 --> 0:33:37.880 But then I met al and I was like, Oh, 0:33:37.880 --> 0:33:39.840 this is kid's cool as fuck. He reminds me of me, 0:33:40.120 --> 0:33:43.880 like just like just tenacious, fucking worker, like worker and 0:33:43.960 --> 0:33:46.320 just the love and the fucking and smart and just 0:33:46.360 --> 0:33:47.720 work and work and work and. 0:33:47.760 --> 0:33:48.440 Just on point. 0:33:48.520 --> 0:33:50.880 I was like, Okay, I'm gonna give this kid access 0:33:51.120 --> 0:33:53.840 and let him be around and then like I'm gonna 0:33:53.880 --> 0:33:55.960 just cut all this shit you have to go through 0:33:55.960 --> 0:33:56.800 and just put you right here. 0:33:56.840 --> 0:33:58.040 You were the biggest group in the world. 0:33:58.120 --> 0:34:01.320 Now in the studio, going on tour, hanging out, you 0:34:01.400 --> 0:34:02.760 know what I mean, and just like give him access 0:34:02.800 --> 0:34:04.280 because I knew all he needed to do is be 0:34:04.320 --> 0:34:06.680 around it. He's such a fucking smart kid and such 0:34:06.680 --> 0:34:09.080 a sponge. You'll figure it out, you know what I mean. 0:34:09.200 --> 0:34:10.440 Just give him access to the ship. 0:34:11.080 --> 0:34:14.399 Was it was he always wanting to step away from 0:34:14.520 --> 0:34:16.360 rapping and just focus on producing. 0:34:16.400 --> 0:34:18.360 When I met him, he didn't make beatsh it okay, 0:34:18.440 --> 0:34:20.680 And then when he did that first time, they was 0:34:20.880 --> 0:34:24.760 they wasn't there. He was learning learning, he was really 0:34:24.800 --> 0:34:27.080 he was a real premier fan and and it was 0:34:27.120 --> 0:34:29.919 just like you know, some sea level premiere like kids ship, 0:34:29.960 --> 0:34:31.919 and he was just I'll be like, nah, that's not it, bro. 0:34:32.680 --> 0:34:36.200 But you knew, like I always knew, Il has that 0:34:36.200 --> 0:34:38.719 that that's it, that it thing, that special fucking thing. 0:34:38.760 --> 0:34:41.520 Like he's just fuck whatever Al decided he wanted to do, 0:34:42.040 --> 0:34:43.480 he was going to be successful in it, you know 0:34:43.520 --> 0:34:45.280 what I mean. He's just that smart and that fucking 0:34:45.840 --> 0:34:47.640 that that much of a hard worker and that got 0:34:47.719 --> 0:34:51.719 that much focus. So you know, we just brought him, 0:34:51.719 --> 0:34:53.879 put him under my wings. Like, you know, he starts 0:34:53.880 --> 0:34:57.160 seeing how records, albums are made, how studio sessions are run, 0:34:57.200 --> 0:34:59.320 you know, and the little tricks, the little behind the 0:34:59.360 --> 0:35:01.960 ship going on to over us, carrying the crates and shit, 0:35:02.080 --> 0:35:04.920 you know what I mean. You're on fucking big festival tours, 0:35:05.000 --> 0:35:07.560 you know what I mean, at fucking fifteen years old, 0:35:08.160 --> 0:35:08.720 leaving school. 0:35:08.800 --> 0:35:11.839 Yeah. Crazy, and then eventually you know, now he's he's 0:35:11.920 --> 0:35:13.600 alchemist Grabby Navina. 0:35:14.239 --> 0:35:15.640 He's the illess in the game right now. 0:35:15.680 --> 0:35:19.279 Man, I agree, Man, I was just saying, like his 0:35:19.520 --> 0:35:22.680 like last couple of year run has been like it's 0:35:22.760 --> 0:35:25.400 so crazy, Like think about the stuff he's done with Boldie, 0:35:25.400 --> 0:35:28.239 with Freddy, Like he's just been just relentless. 0:35:28.280 --> 0:35:30.040 He hasn't done nothing different. He's been working this hard 0:35:30.040 --> 0:35:31.840 all these years. It's just you know, it's just timing. 0:35:32.080 --> 0:35:33.520 It's just it's the perfect storm. 0:35:33.560 --> 0:35:33.759 You know. 0:35:33.800 --> 0:35:36.440 It's like the way the music is and the way 0:35:36.480 --> 0:35:40.000 the the what we like, the culture's growing, and then 0:35:40.120 --> 0:35:42.520 just the right artists at the right times with all 0:35:42.560 --> 0:35:44.320 the momentum he's built up over the years. 0:35:44.320 --> 0:35:45.040 You know what I'm saying. 0:35:45.200 --> 0:35:47.879 I was gonna ask you your production process, how much 0:35:47.880 --> 0:35:49.839 has it changed over the years, because back in the day, 0:35:49.840 --> 0:35:52.920 everybody we have their go to equipment. Nowadays, like I'll 0:35:53.239 --> 0:35:56.080 like know guys who I never ever thought would touch 0:35:56.239 --> 0:35:59.160 like a digital platform, like who will only be on 0:35:59.280 --> 0:36:01.440 able to They'll only be on pro tools, like what 0:36:01.560 --> 0:36:02.000 is your y? 0:36:03.080 --> 0:36:04.759 It was the same for me, man, I was using 0:36:04.800 --> 0:36:07.440 the SP twelve. I moved over to the MPC and 0:36:07.480 --> 0:36:10.319 then it just I wanted to do some electronic shit 0:36:10.360 --> 0:36:12.239 for fun, and I was like, how do you do 0:36:12.280 --> 0:36:15.279 this shit? And oh, I can't do it on this shit. 0:36:15.800 --> 0:36:18.040 I got to learn this fucking computer. And I was 0:36:18.120 --> 0:36:20.360 like I was the last motherfucker bro to fuck with 0:36:20.360 --> 0:36:20.800 the computer. 0:36:20.880 --> 0:36:21.840 Like you were hanging on to this. 0:36:21.960 --> 0:36:23.960 I was hanging on a two inch everything, and I 0:36:24.040 --> 0:36:25.719 was just like fuck it. So I just took a 0:36:25.840 --> 0:36:28.279 year and just worked on some electronic music and just 0:36:28.320 --> 0:36:31.000 took a year and just dialed, just worked on the 0:36:31.000 --> 0:36:33.640 machine until I figured out, like, oh I can get 0:36:33.640 --> 0:36:36.080 my sound out of this thing. Because it turned into 0:36:36.080 --> 0:36:39.759 a lot more sound designing and you know, getting into 0:36:39.800 --> 0:36:41.360 the fucking the effects. 0:36:41.480 --> 0:36:42.880 Yet there's plugins for everything. 0:36:43.000 --> 0:36:44.800 Yeah, and then having having not having to have a 0:36:44.800 --> 0:36:47.520 big studio and learn everything and fucking plugging everything in 0:36:47.560 --> 0:36:49.759 and just having it right there my fingertips. I was like, 0:36:50.400 --> 0:36:53.719 actually it started getting fun again for me, super fun again, 0:36:53.800 --> 0:36:57.120 you know. And then and then my daughter got to 0:36:57.160 --> 0:36:58.759 a certain age where I was like, oh, I don't 0:36:58.760 --> 0:37:00.359 got to fucking be there all time. 0:37:00.440 --> 0:37:02.520 So you know, it's like six years ago. That's when 0:37:02.520 --> 0:37:04.040 I was like, oh, it's about me again. Now it's 0:37:04.080 --> 0:37:08.160 my time. Kids are raised. 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I was gonna say for you, you've done 0:40:02.280 --> 0:40:04.560 so many joint projects with artists. If you had to 0:40:04.560 --> 0:40:06.400 give me, I don't want to, don't tell me your favorite, 0:40:06.440 --> 0:40:08.279 but if you had to give me outside of the 0:40:08.280 --> 0:40:11.399 Cypher shit, what's been like two or three that stick 0:40:11.440 --> 0:40:13.280 out in your mind in terms of like your favorite 0:40:13.520 --> 0:40:14.920 collaborative projects you've done. 0:40:15.320 --> 0:40:17.239 Man, it's a lot of them. I just enjoy what 0:40:17.560 --> 0:40:20.400 I enjoy, man, is just working with people. You know, 0:40:20.440 --> 0:40:23.719 you got to be a cool motherfucker because sitting a 0:40:23.719 --> 0:40:24.759 fucking studio with you for. 0:40:24.719 --> 0:40:26.600 Two months, you know what I mean? Yeah, we gotta 0:40:26.680 --> 0:40:28.239 like you rather go walk my dog, you know what 0:40:28.280 --> 0:40:28.680 I'm saying. 0:40:28.719 --> 0:40:31.400 So, you know Mayhem. Every time I work with Mayhem 0:40:31.440 --> 0:40:33.319 AND's some fucking blessing. It's great, you know what I mean? 0:40:33.719 --> 0:40:39.480 I love working with may Man, TF Rome Worthy, you know, 0:40:39.719 --> 0:40:42.680 fucking all these motherfuckers is as cool as fuck. 0:40:42.719 --> 0:40:45.680 Man, Who's who's at all the mcs you've ever worked with? 0:40:46.400 --> 0:40:50.280 Who's the fastest when it comes to just the writing process. 0:40:51.640 --> 0:40:54.560 It used to be, It used to be MC eight 0:40:54.880 --> 0:40:57.080 and then now I went in with them. I went 0:40:57.120 --> 0:40:59.319 in with Cassius one time, and me and Cassius did 0:41:00.760 --> 0:41:03.520 four songs in like a few hours, and then Crime 0:41:03.560 --> 0:41:07.480 Apple came in and did like six songs and four hours. 0:41:07.520 --> 0:41:11.319 I think when I first met him, damn. And And 0:41:11.440 --> 0:41:13.279 what was cool about Crime is he was supposed to 0:41:13.320 --> 0:41:16.279 go back to New York and then it was like 0:41:16.400 --> 0:41:18.080 he came to my radio show and I was like, yo, 0:41:18.080 --> 0:41:19.960 if you want to come jump in the lab them all. 0:41:20.920 --> 0:41:22.720 He was like, I'm supposed to go home, but I'm staying. 0:41:22.719 --> 0:41:24.719 So he stayed did the radio show and you know, 0:41:24.840 --> 0:41:26.480 now we've done a couple of hours and travel the 0:41:26.480 --> 0:41:26.960 world together. 0:41:27.080 --> 0:41:30.840 That's amazing for you. What is what has changed about 0:41:31.719 --> 0:41:34.520 because being on the road, you've seen kind of all 0:41:34.560 --> 0:41:37.239 fascet of that as well. Is it still fun for 0:41:37.280 --> 0:41:40.239 you to go out and do shows and see the 0:41:40.239 --> 0:41:41.080 fans in person? 0:41:41.600 --> 0:41:45.200 Yeah, I do it more limited, you know, like I 0:41:45.200 --> 0:41:47.080 still have a good time though, Yeah, I still love 0:41:47.120 --> 0:41:49.239 a good time, like because I don't have to do it, 0:41:49.440 --> 0:41:50.879 but like I like to do it, and so when 0:41:50.880 --> 0:41:52.120 I want to do it, I was like, okay, there's 0:41:52.120 --> 0:41:54.560 three weeks I'm gonna go do shows, and you know, 0:41:54.960 --> 0:41:56.640 a couple of times a year, I'd grab a month 0:41:56.640 --> 0:41:57.640 as to go do some shows. 0:41:57.840 --> 0:41:59.959 Yo, when you guys were doing like the early cybersoship, 0:42:00.000 --> 0:42:01.960 are you guys like on any psychedelics back of the 0:42:02.040 --> 0:42:07.520 day shrooms shrooming? Would you say? Like, cause, I don't 0:42:07.520 --> 0:42:09.200 know if you've noticed, but shrooms are kind of becoming 0:42:09.200 --> 0:42:09.400 like the. 0:42:09.760 --> 0:42:11.960 Thing right now. So they see that. No, it was 0:42:12.000 --> 0:42:13.000 on that ship in the eighties. 0:42:13.000 --> 0:42:15.920 Man, it's crazy to see it. It's like it's like normalized. 0:42:15.960 --> 0:42:18.000 Like it's like people like are like micro dos to 0:42:18.000 --> 0:42:20.560 go to work, Like every wrapper wants shrooms. 0:42:20.640 --> 0:42:23.600 Like, yeah, I never seen that coming ever. They were 0:42:23.600 --> 0:42:25.080 always scared of that shit, you know what I mean. 0:42:25.400 --> 0:42:26.040 Yeah, it was. 0:42:26.160 --> 0:42:27.719 It was funny because even back in the days, there 0:42:27.719 --> 0:42:28.680 was no pills in the hood. 0:42:28.719 --> 0:42:31.480 The pills were the rock and rollers was fucking with pills. 0:42:31.719 --> 0:42:33.759 They've never seen pills in the hood ever, you know 0:42:33.760 --> 0:42:35.239 what I mean. Now everybody's popping. 0:42:34.920 --> 0:42:37.840 Pills, and I mean stay away fedanel. 0:42:37.880 --> 0:42:39.480 No, there wasn't none of that shit was around. We 0:42:39.480 --> 0:42:41.560 was kids, like nobody. We didn't even see pills. Man, 0:42:41.560 --> 0:42:43.200 it was just weed and shrooms. 0:42:43.800 --> 0:42:46.000 What have you ever had a really bad trip on shrooms? 0:42:46.160 --> 0:42:47.879 No, never had a bad trip. 0:42:48.160 --> 0:42:48.600 That's good. 0:42:49.680 --> 0:42:50.560 Never had a bad trip. 0:42:50.640 --> 0:42:52.840 That's a good thing because you hear them bad trips 0:42:52.880 --> 0:42:54.040 is what scares everybody off. 0:42:54.600 --> 0:42:55.560 Yeah, they do too much. 0:42:55.600 --> 0:42:57.040 Man, You got to ease into that ship, you know 0:42:57.080 --> 0:42:59.080 what I mean, Just seeze into it a little bit, 0:42:59.200 --> 0:43:01.359 figure out and get you get your footing and figure 0:43:01.360 --> 0:43:02.759 out what works for you, and do a little bit more. 0:43:02.800 --> 0:43:03.880 And do a little bit more if you want to 0:43:03.920 --> 0:43:07.200 go there otherwise, you know, even my first time, like 0:43:07.200 --> 0:43:07.799 I ate an eighth. 0:43:08.040 --> 0:43:09.279 That's what the on we told you to do. Eat 0:43:09.280 --> 0:43:10.480 an eighth and you fucking. 0:43:10.360 --> 0:43:12.080 It's a pretty serious amount that sh It's. 0:43:12.040 --> 0:43:14.000 The fucking walls of melting, you know. But I wouldn't 0:43:14.000 --> 0:43:17.279 recommend anybody to start eighth. Nah, I wouldn't do that. 0:43:18.040 --> 0:43:20.200 I watched a couple of years ago when the mister 0:43:20.239 --> 0:43:23.000 cartoon Estevan documentary came out. I think it was called 0:43:23.000 --> 0:43:25.799 Ellie Originals. Right, it's on Netflix. Everybody should go watch 0:43:25.800 --> 0:43:27.680 it because I think it's really dope, like for people 0:43:27.719 --> 0:43:30.439 to kind of see like like just both of their 0:43:30.480 --> 0:43:34.040 come ups and like how integral and like hip hop 0:43:34.080 --> 0:43:36.280 both of them are. I just remember the mister Cartoon 0:43:36.400 --> 0:43:39.279 era of rap. I just felt like everyone had the tattoos, 0:43:39.400 --> 0:43:42.680 Like but for you kind of coming up with those 0:43:42.719 --> 0:43:45.680 guys and like you're very much a part of their story. 0:43:46.239 --> 0:43:48.120 How dope was it to see like them get their 0:43:48.120 --> 0:43:49.320 flowers with that documentary? 0:43:49.360 --> 0:43:50.000 Check it out? Man? 0:43:50.239 --> 0:43:54.160 Like for me, man, seeing my team win is the 0:43:54.200 --> 0:43:56.160 dopest shit for me to see where they come because 0:43:56.160 --> 0:43:57.520 all my motherfuckers is killers. 0:43:57.560 --> 0:43:57.719 You know. 0:43:57.920 --> 0:44:01.359 Look to see how you know, from being fourteen years 0:44:01.400 --> 0:44:03.560 old to what he's doing is like amazing for me 0:44:03.600 --> 0:44:04.880 to see cartoon to step on. 0:44:05.080 --> 0:44:07.839 Like Steve On was working at the. 0:44:07.760 --> 0:44:09.920 Door of a club, but I knew him and he 0:44:10.280 --> 0:44:11.799 didn't get high. He was always on point, and I 0:44:11.840 --> 0:44:13.560 was like, hey man, I was like, yo, I got 0:44:13.560 --> 0:44:15.200 to I need a road manager for this new group. 0:44:15.600 --> 0:44:17.239 He goes, what is a role manager? I go, it's easy, 0:44:17.239 --> 0:44:19.680 I'll teach you. I got this new group called House 0:44:19.680 --> 0:44:21.279 of Pain. You want to be the road manager? He 0:44:21.400 --> 0:44:23.840 was like, fuck it. So he started being the road manager. 0:44:23.920 --> 0:44:24.080 You know. 0:44:24.840 --> 0:44:27.120 When he was on the road, his dad was like 0:44:27.239 --> 0:44:30.120 a son, here's a camera document your time on the road. 0:44:31.120 --> 0:44:34.160 And then we'd have photographers taking pictures that would charge 0:44:34.160 --> 0:44:36.840 just thirty fucking thousand dollars for some trash. 0:44:36.640 --> 0:44:39.640 Cheese, and I was like thirty thousand. 0:44:39.760 --> 0:44:41.759 Yeah, the budgets were crazy, and I was like a man, 0:44:41.840 --> 0:44:43.959 fuck these dudes. You know what, you take the pictures, homie, 0:44:44.120 --> 0:44:45.960 let the homie get the check. And that's how he 0:44:45.960 --> 0:44:46.799 started shooting us. 0:44:47.200 --> 0:44:47.600 Wow. 0:44:47.640 --> 0:44:49.360 And that's what the whole soul assess and shit was 0:44:49.400 --> 0:44:52.080 is to build our own economy and just hire each other. 0:44:52.640 --> 0:44:55.040 Anytime we hired these other motherfuckers and put them in 0:44:55.040 --> 0:44:56.759 a position to win, they would never come back and 0:44:56.800 --> 0:44:58.120 return the favor, you know what I mean. 0:44:58.320 --> 0:44:59.960 And those were the error that was like the air 0:45:00.120 --> 0:45:04.759 were where like labels were just like getting like they were. 0:45:04.880 --> 0:45:06.880 They were like, like you said, a thirty thousand dollars 0:45:06.880 --> 0:45:09.799 budget for a photographers insane, right, So you would be 0:45:09.840 --> 0:45:11.960 like you would always hear these stories about like labels, 0:45:12.000 --> 0:45:13.920 like you'd get your invoice or your oh. 0:45:13.920 --> 0:45:16.200 Yeah, there's your money. They're spending your money. 0:45:16.200 --> 0:45:17.719 So they don't spending your money that you have to 0:45:17.760 --> 0:45:19.040 recoup and they you know. 0:45:19.040 --> 0:45:20.480 So they know they're going to recoup it because you're 0:45:20.480 --> 0:45:21.600 selling four million records. 0:45:21.600 --> 0:45:24.120 So crazy. So, like you said, you like a lot 0:45:24.120 --> 0:45:25.600 of the shit you would see on some of these 0:45:25.640 --> 0:45:27.640 like spreadsheets, you'd be like, wait, we paid this much 0:45:27.640 --> 0:45:28.120 for this. 0:45:28.280 --> 0:45:30.080 Like a lot of artists don't even look. 0:45:30.200 --> 0:45:31.840 I got a homie that could do it, you know 0:45:31.880 --> 0:45:32.399 what I'm saying. 0:45:32.719 --> 0:45:34.600 Yeah, And a lot of artists they let the managers 0:45:34.600 --> 0:45:36.399 and everything and there everybody else is just as long 0:45:36.440 --> 0:45:37.960 as they get they cut and they're just skimming. They're 0:45:37.960 --> 0:45:39.759 getting paid off top anyways. A lot of times they 0:45:39.760 --> 0:45:42.000 don't give a fuck. But yeah, it was a lot 0:45:42.000 --> 0:45:45.239 of that ship man. So and then you know, so 0:45:45.280 --> 0:45:47.520 that started happening with a step On and then Cartoon 0:45:47.560 --> 0:45:50.319 came along up a little bit later, and then you know, 0:45:50.480 --> 0:45:53.040 we first started letting Cartoon do shit for us around 0:45:54.040 --> 0:45:56.160 our fifth album, like Rock Superstar album. That was the 0:45:56.160 --> 0:45:58.640 first time he touched our shit. Oh shit, okay, yeah, 0:45:58.640 --> 0:46:00.239 but he was right there with us the whole time. Then, 0:46:00.239 --> 0:46:01.560 you know, when I was on when I go on 0:46:01.600 --> 0:46:04.520 tour because I met Paul and then we're doing we're 0:46:04.520 --> 0:46:06.680 opening up for him doing the Anger Management Tour. Fifty 0:46:06.680 --> 0:46:09.040 I just came out within the club. So it's fifty 0:46:09.320 --> 0:46:11.840 exhibit eminem Cypress hill I was. 0:46:12.040 --> 0:46:14.400 I went to I went to that tour, yeah, as 0:46:14.560 --> 0:46:16.640 I was a child, and I went back. I got 0:46:16.719 --> 0:46:23.399 backstage and I saw I met Sophia. Sophia I think 0:46:23.520 --> 0:46:25.040 was on the road with Exhibit at the time. 0:46:26.160 --> 0:46:27.879 I think so, yeah, yeah, I think there was funning 0:46:27.920 --> 0:46:28.680 around back in the day. 0:46:28.800 --> 0:46:31.840 Yeah. And I was like because at the time, my 0:46:31.880 --> 0:46:35.319 best friend's brothers Rocker, right, so like we had the 0:46:35.360 --> 0:46:38.719 Liquid crew he you know, Roco with he linked us 0:46:38.760 --> 0:46:41.319 with Exhibit, so we would always be like, oh, it's 0:46:41.360 --> 0:46:41.960 Rock's little brother. 0:46:42.520 --> 0:46:42.600 Ki. 0:46:43.120 --> 0:46:46.160 I remember we snuck our ass backstage at the Phoenix 0:46:46.200 --> 0:46:48.120 tour date of that of that Anger Management tour. That 0:46:48.200 --> 0:46:49.440 was a crazy So. 0:46:49.400 --> 0:46:51.600 We bring cartoon because you know, you're sitting backstage for 0:46:51.640 --> 0:46:52.279 fucking five sex. 0:46:52.360 --> 0:46:54.240 If you want to get blasted, yeah, just set. 0:46:54.160 --> 0:46:57.600 Him up backstage. And he got everybody in that whole tour. 0:46:57.600 --> 0:46:59.040 I think he did what he was supposed to do, 0:46:59.480 --> 0:47:02.120 took opportunity and did what he was supposed to do. 0:47:02.120 --> 0:47:04.520 A lot of motherfuckers get those opportunities. 0:47:05.560 --> 0:47:08.040 Oh, I gotta like for the motherfuckers who won. I 0:47:08.040 --> 0:47:10.360 got a list of fools who just sat around smoking 0:47:10.360 --> 0:47:13.640 weed and drinking and then complaining and complaining, complaining, complaining 0:47:13.680 --> 0:47:14.160 that they didn't. 0:47:14.200 --> 0:47:16.080 I was like, bro, put you in this in a situation. 0:47:16.360 --> 0:47:17.360 I'm not going to force you. 0:47:17.480 --> 0:47:19.400 I put you in the game. Come on, run the 0:47:19.440 --> 0:47:20.960 ball for that. 0:47:22.320 --> 0:47:24.560 What do you do outside of music these days? For fun? 0:47:24.719 --> 0:47:25.719 For recreation? 0:47:25.880 --> 0:47:28.719 Like what is your workout? Workout? 0:47:28.800 --> 0:47:37.080 Man, movie, tie, hit the bags, go hiking, fucking business yeah, 0:47:37.120 --> 0:47:39.560 like five six different businesses, you know, and just fucking 0:47:41.239 --> 0:47:44.280 holidays with the family, you know what I mean, go shooting. 0:47:44.680 --> 0:47:46.240 Just a bunch of different ship with the homies. 0:47:47.400 --> 0:47:50.799 I just got I want to say, last year, I 0:47:50.960 --> 0:47:56.440 got I got a bunch of cyper shit center me 0:47:56.480 --> 0:47:57.719 in the mail because didn't you. 0:47:57.640 --> 0:48:01.160 Get you guys put out It was the thirtieth Yeah, 0:48:01.200 --> 0:48:02.480 the anniversary first album. 0:48:02.520 --> 0:48:05.080 Yeah, I got like I think, I got a rolling tray, 0:48:05.160 --> 0:48:07.040 I got like a can't, I got disposable camera. I 0:48:07.040 --> 0:48:10.200 got a bunch of cool ship. You guys obviously have 0:48:10.280 --> 0:48:14.239 been more active recently as a group than than in 0:48:14.600 --> 0:48:19.640 past times. What is the current situation, uh, in terms 0:48:19.680 --> 0:48:21.400 of like any new music coming out or is that 0:48:21.440 --> 0:48:22.480 something that you guys. 0:48:23.520 --> 0:48:24.640 Me and b were recorded. 0:48:24.760 --> 0:48:29.040 I think about four songs last year, but just nothing no, No, 0:48:29.160 --> 0:48:30.920 talks about nothing really right now, you know, I mean 0:48:31.040 --> 0:48:34.319 just a lot of road ship we're putting together. We're 0:48:34.320 --> 0:48:39.000 putting together something called the Cypress Experience where you'll come 0:48:39.040 --> 0:48:43.040 in there'll be all like future tech three D and 0:48:43.040 --> 0:48:45.320 and you know the those big as domes. 0:48:45.480 --> 0:48:48.280 Yeah, yeah, they got one downtown in l a wonder. 0:48:48.719 --> 0:48:51.439 Yeah, I went to I think that Punk went downtown. Yeah, 0:48:51.520 --> 0:48:52.560 that Punk had a sick one. 0:48:52.680 --> 0:48:52.919 Yeah. 0:48:53.040 --> 0:48:55.280 So we're putting something like an immersive of Cypress experience 0:48:55.320 --> 0:48:58.480 that'll be fire. I want to take what they're doing 0:48:58.480 --> 0:49:02.319 a step further and you know, have it, have have 0:49:02.400 --> 0:49:04.440 a three D and then have it take you to 0:49:05.400 --> 0:49:06.880 little little metaverse. 0:49:07.520 --> 0:49:10.400 Is it crazy like to see your guys, Because I 0:49:10.440 --> 0:49:12.000 was thinking about this the other day because I'm like, 0:49:12.360 --> 0:49:15.440 you guys have so many like crazy stories and like 0:49:15.480 --> 0:49:17.880 wrinkles to your guys's careers as a group and also 0:49:18.000 --> 0:49:22.319 just solo wise, would you guys ever do like a 0:49:22.360 --> 0:49:25.080 Netflix or straight out of Compton type of movie but 0:49:25.440 --> 0:49:29.600 surrounding Cypress. So the thing maybe a series or something. 0:49:29.719 --> 0:49:32.600 What we're talking about is a sol as sessions because 0:49:32.640 --> 0:49:34.239 then I could tell in that I could tell a 0:49:34.280 --> 0:49:36.239 full Cypress story and I could tell a full mug 0:49:36.280 --> 0:49:38.239 story and to be real and an alchemist and a 0:49:38.280 --> 0:49:41.440 cartoon step on and you know everything else. So I 0:49:41.480 --> 0:49:43.480 think that would be something. I think that can even 0:49:43.520 --> 0:49:43.960 go further. 0:49:44.239 --> 0:49:45.640 Yeah, that'd be crazy. 0:49:45.840 --> 0:49:48.799 But yeah, we're in the process right now working with 0:49:48.840 --> 0:49:50.360 Sony on an animated series. 0:49:51.160 --> 0:49:54.600 Oh shit, that'd be crazy. That's dope, man, it's been 0:49:54.640 --> 0:49:57.239 dope to just see you. You just turning up be 0:49:57.400 --> 0:50:00.920 reals turning up doing dope content too, Like it's just 0:50:00.920 --> 0:50:03.799 been dope to see man. So the new album is out, 0:50:03.920 --> 0:50:07.000 Soul Assassin's Three Death Valley. The movie is the movie 0:50:07.040 --> 0:50:07.600 on YouTube? 0:50:07.680 --> 0:50:07.839 Yeah. 0:50:07.960 --> 0:50:11.359 No, the movie drops on the thirteenth, Okay, yeah, yeah, 0:50:11.400 --> 0:50:16.240 September thirteenth. I'm probably on Amazon where we're doing screenings 0:50:16.239 --> 0:50:19.520 all month, New York, San Francisco, Chicago. I just did 0:50:19.680 --> 0:50:21.880 I just did them Tokyo. They're going to screen it 0:50:21.920 --> 0:50:24.279 in Europe. So just screening the whole the movie all month. 0:50:24.520 --> 0:50:27.560 You guys got a big fan base in Japan, right, crazy, 0:50:27.680 --> 0:50:31.200 it's crazy crazy, It's something crazy, Like I just watched 0:50:31.239 --> 0:50:35.200 this YouTube video, Like there's something about like parts of 0:50:35.280 --> 0:50:38.680 Japan where they're just like extremely infatuated with La culture, oh. 0:50:38.560 --> 0:50:41.880 One thousand percent. When when they you wouldn't look like 0:50:41.920 --> 0:50:43.880 they look like the homies, low riders and everything, you 0:50:43.880 --> 0:50:46.680 wouldn't even know. They think it's the homie from East La. Right, 0:50:46.840 --> 0:50:48.040 So you talk to them, you know what I mean? 0:50:48.800 --> 0:50:52.040 But yeah, and when they do something, bro, they refine it, 0:50:52.160 --> 0:50:54.439 They refine it, They refine it to its simplest form, 0:50:54.440 --> 0:50:56.120 and they master the shit out of it and ended 0:50:56.160 --> 0:50:57.040 up doing it better than you. 0:50:57.400 --> 0:50:57.799 That's great. 0:50:57.840 --> 0:50:59.960 It's their appreciation for everything they do. Man, they just 0:51:00.040 --> 0:51:02.160 sit back and watch and rEFInd the fun out of it, 0:51:02.200 --> 0:51:05.239 even the fashion, even their cat and even there there 0:51:06.600 --> 0:51:07.600 everything the fuck they do. 0:51:07.800 --> 0:51:08.520 Yeah. 0:51:08.640 --> 0:51:12.560 So September thirteenth movie, Well, hey, what what's verse on 0:51:12.560 --> 0:51:13.399 this album that you have to wait? 0:51:13.400 --> 0:51:16.359 The longest war slick Rick slick Rick about a year. 0:51:16.440 --> 0:51:19.160 I had a guess slick record Scarface would be my guess. 0:51:19.280 --> 0:51:21.560 Face was knocked it out in a week, really bomb 0:51:21.680 --> 0:51:26.120 shout out to Scarface, shot to Brad jordans Man. I 0:51:26.239 --> 0:51:28.040 was like, damn, quick as fuck, hit me on the 0:51:28.080 --> 0:51:30.840 phone and mugs, what do you want? What are we 0:51:30.880 --> 0:51:33.399 going for on this? And I told him it was like, okay, 0:51:33.400 --> 0:51:35.319 I got you and the Boom send him like two 0:51:35.360 --> 0:51:35.799 days later. 0:51:36.160 --> 0:51:40.799 That's fire Man. Anything coming out or anything that's in 0:51:40.840 --> 0:51:43.120 the can. In terms of clap albums, I'm sure you 0:51:43.200 --> 0:51:45.120 got a few that that already finished. 0:51:44.800 --> 0:51:47.400 Or Yeah, we got like about sixteen projects in the 0:51:47.400 --> 0:51:49.480 works right now, but we're going to drop first of 0:51:49.520 --> 0:51:49.799 the year. 0:51:49.800 --> 0:51:53.000 It was gonna be Mayhem Record and the TF Record. 0:51:53.080 --> 0:51:55.000 Those are going to probably be the first projects coming 0:51:55.000 --> 0:51:59.600 out fire like February March, February March. 0:51:59.520 --> 0:52:01.880 Okay, being a lookout for those go get the album. 0:52:01.960 --> 0:52:04.800 The album is the who's who have just hip hop? 0:52:05.280 --> 0:52:06.279 My goodness. 0:52:06.760 --> 0:52:08.319 Yeah, they all murdered that shit too. Man. 0:52:08.440 --> 0:52:10.680 You know you got a crazy lineup of Man, the 0:52:10.719 --> 0:52:13.480 track list thing is unbelievable in twenty twenty three. 0:52:13.600 --> 0:52:16.839 Yeah, so you delivered, man, Thank you brother, sure, thanks 0:52:16.840 --> 0:52:18.120 for having me the LEGI. 0:52:19.080 --> 0:52:23.799 Yes, fire brother Man. I appreciate you brother too. Hey, 0:52:23.840 --> 0:52:26.160 what up man, you just watched another episode of the 0:52:26.200 --> 0:52:28.760 Blue leg Cap podcast brought to you by Hard Dean. 0:52:28.880 --> 0:52:32.080 Baby shout out to the family at Hard Dean. Don't forget. 0:52:33.000 --> 0:52:34.799 Make sure if you're in Las Vegas you get into 0:52:34.840 --> 0:52:36.239 that taxi as soon as you land to get into 0:52:36.280 --> 0:52:38.040 that uber say take me to hard Dean, all right, 0:52:38.239 --> 0:52:39.960 they gonna take get you. 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