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Speaker 1: Son of Man on Earth, obviously leading up to his resurrection.

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Speaker 1: Now we all remember the Passion of the Christ. I

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Speaker 1: interestingly enough, somebody I happened to like a lot. He

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Speaker 1: played Jesus in the Passion of the Christ, Jim cavesl

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Speaker 1: And it's called the Sound of Freedom. And this is

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Speaker 1: a little bit different. This is based on a true

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Speaker 1: That's coming up in a second. But here's the trailer.

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Speaker 2: Is growing international crime network that the world has ever seen.

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Speaker 2: It has already passed the illegal arm straight and soon

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Speaker 2: I don't even do this all years now? How many

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Speaker 1: For homeland security? You know we can't go off rescuing

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Speaker 2: You're walking into her run right now, saying everything, bed Olla, do.

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Speaker 4: You quit your job and you go and rescue those kids.

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Speaker 1: Joining us now is Tim Ballard. This story was about

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Speaker 1: him and his life. He's the guy that actually was

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Speaker 1: At the end of this movie, you did a passionate

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Speaker 1: Now, I've known over the years, interviewing guys that have

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Speaker 5: Well, lit'st okay. Two things here. One, I want to

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Speaker 5: Rojas testimony April twenty six, and from this one given

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Speaker 1: Well, I can tell you I agree with you. It's

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Speaker 1: Tim Ballard. Well, first of all, you're a hero to

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Speaker 1: me already. I don't know you, but this will resonate

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Speaker 3: appreciate the opportunity. So the film really is, it's very accurate.

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Speaker 1: The amazing thing is as they're asking people, they want

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Speaker 1: You can go to their website right now and buy

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Speaker 1: and that's at angel dot com. Or they have another website,

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So I had been sent down by the US government.

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Speaker 1: In look, by the way, and quit your job. Ten

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Speaker 3: They were recruiting children by pretending that they were going

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Speaker 1: So and by the way, just so people know, this

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Speaker 5: Sean, he's not even hardly telling you anything. They were

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to tell you what that plan is.

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Speaker 1: All Right, Linda wants to be in charge of all

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Speaker 3: Get it.

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Speaker 1: Love that.

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Speaker 4: Not like Humpty Dumpty can't come and cry, Humpty.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna put that one on top of your caskets.

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Speaker 1: They want to remember it was all my dead relatives

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Speaker 4: They go on underground? I mean, this was like a

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Speaker 4: I have to be honest, It was very idea, but

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Speaker 4: I assure you that if you make me the conceigliary

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Speaker 1: You say all of this, and I don't believe you.

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Speaker 1: I think I think anybody that starts crying, what are

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Speaker 4: A buying room. It's to the right. Please don't.

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Speaker 4: See people crying. So if I can't see you, you

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Speaker 4: There's only one person that controls free will, and that's

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Speaker 1: Tell them the shut up. You're welcome, stop complaining.

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Speaker 4: I'm here to facilitate.

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