WEBVTT - BACK FROM THE DEAD 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:00.240 A. 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:01.280 Hi, is this Marissa? 0:00:02.279 --> 0:00:02.679 Yes? 0:00:03.760 --> 0:00:04.680 How are you doing Marissa? 0:00:05.360 --> 0:00:06.440 I'm doing good? 0:00:06.760 --> 0:00:12.280 How are you Marissa? It says here that you're twenty 0:00:12.320 --> 0:00:17.120 seven years old from California. It says that you lied 0:00:17.239 --> 0:00:21.600 to a bunch of people that your mom died and 0:00:21.640 --> 0:00:26.960 that and then you moved away and then now you 0:00:27.080 --> 0:00:29.320 have to face the people that you lied to. 0:00:33.360 --> 0:00:34.080 Is this the gay? 0:00:35.840 --> 0:00:36.640 This is Marisa? 0:00:36.720 --> 0:00:36.960 Where? 0:00:37.360 --> 0:00:38.000 How did you? 0:00:38.600 --> 0:00:38.640 What? 0:00:38.840 --> 0:00:41.160 Marissa? Why did you lie to a bunch of people 0:00:41.159 --> 0:00:44.000 that your mom died? Let's start there. 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:50.600 Okay, So I lied to begin with because I just 0:00:50.680 --> 0:00:53.959 have a very I had a very tumultuous, just kind 0:00:54.000 --> 0:00:58.640 of crazy upbringing and a rough childhood, so to speak, 0:00:58.720 --> 0:01:03.080 and my mom wasn't in my life, and it gets 0:01:03.160 --> 0:01:07.319 kind of exhausting having to answer people, you know, where's 0:01:07.319 --> 0:01:12.120 your mom? What happened? Why aren't you guys on good terms? 0:01:12.440 --> 0:01:19.880 And I made up the shitty lie that she passed 0:01:19.880 --> 0:01:23.360 away and I had died to avoid having to answer 0:01:23.360 --> 0:01:26.120 any more questions about my mom and kind of having 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:28.240 to bring up trauma for me over and over again. 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:32.240 And you know, I told this to everybody that I 0:01:32.280 --> 0:01:38.360 worked with, my roommates, everyone, and my roommate even knew her. 0:01:38.400 --> 0:01:40.840 We were friends for like over a decade, and he 0:01:41.520 --> 0:01:45.040 first hand knew her. And I ended up leaving the job. 0:01:45.680 --> 0:01:49.240 A couple of years later. We moved to southern California 0:01:49.400 --> 0:01:56.040 and I am reconnecting with my mom and the relationship 0:01:56.120 --> 0:02:02.240 is starting to thrive again, and my partner and I 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:08.080 we are kind of moving towards marriage, and I brought 0:02:08.160 --> 0:02:15.240 up the discussion of what's gonna happen if my mom 0:02:16.120 --> 0:02:21.720 comes to our wedding and all these people that I'm 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:25.920 friends with and I love I want at the wedding also, 0:02:26.840 --> 0:02:30.400 and they're gonna come face to face with my life. 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:38.120 Yeah, this is a pretty funny scenario. So tell me 0:02:38.240 --> 0:02:41.440 what happened to all right, So you had to kind 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:43.239 of shit a relationship with your mom. She wasn't there, 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:45.480 so you didn't feel like explaining it to people, so 0:02:45.520 --> 0:02:49.200 you just told them all she died, which is understandable. 0:02:49.680 --> 0:02:53.960 I'll say that what happened to make it so that 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:56.480 you guys repair to your relationship later on. 0:02:59.720 --> 0:03:03.920 I I've just done a lot of growing. I've looked 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:07.320 into myself a lot, and you know, is it worth 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:11.200 hanging on to all this negative feelings towards her, is 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:14.160 it worth kind of living in the past still, just 0:03:14.200 --> 0:03:16.679 by being so angry at her? And you know, I 0:03:17.040 --> 0:03:20.760 never even knew her aside from you know, the drug 0:03:20.880 --> 0:03:24.760 usage and all of that. So I just have been 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:26.880 working on myself a lot these last couple of years, 0:03:26.919 --> 0:03:30.320 especially since we moved to southern California, and trying to 0:03:30.360 --> 0:03:34.000 seek what's just peep inside of myself. And so I 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:39.320 found sure my mom and I messaged her on Facebook 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:43.520 and I told her that I had basically forgiven her, 0:03:44.640 --> 0:03:47.320 and I found that in myself I had forgiven her. 0:03:47.360 --> 0:03:50.760 And I told her I don't need her to respond anything. 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:54.080 I just want her to know that she's okay with me, 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:56.720 and I'm okay with her, and if we're not on 0:03:56.800 --> 0:03:59.920 each other's life, that's fine. I just I didn't want 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:04.640 could die knowing that my mom thinks I hated her, 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:08.600 and I don't hate her. I just realized she you know, 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:10.600 she has a lot of trauma. She made a lot 0:04:10.640 --> 0:04:14.000 of shitty decisions and a lot of bad decisions that 0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:17.839 ultimately affected me and my childhood. And I just I 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:19.719 got over that. I was ready to forgive her. So 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:23.479 now she's present and we've been talking to each other 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:28.400 for the last seven or eight months now, and things 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:30.839 have been really great, and she's changed into a whole 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:33.839 other person and I really admire her. 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:35.720 And she's just. 0:04:35.680 --> 0:04:38.160 Come a long way since all of the drug usage 0:04:38.200 --> 0:04:42.680 and all of just the narcissistic abuse, and I'm proud 0:04:42.680 --> 0:04:44.960 of her, and so I'm happy to, you know, tell 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:48.800 my partner, Hey, we could potentially have my mom at 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:52.599 my wedding or our wedding. And I never thought that 0:04:52.680 --> 0:04:54.920 was possible, but holy shit, we have. 0:04:54.960 --> 0:04:56.080 A whole nother problem. 0:04:56.720 --> 0:04:57.800 Everyone thinks she's dead. 0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:02.760 No, okay, So first of all, first of all, that's 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:03.960 a that's an amazing story. 0:05:04.000 --> 0:05:04.200 To me. 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:07.640 That's pretty wild. Uh, I don't know, I mean, don't 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:09.919 have to get into the details of of what it 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:11.800 was like growing up with your mom or any of 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:15.440 that stuff. But for you to, you know, now that 0:05:15.480 --> 0:05:21.640 you're older, summon the forgiveness to reach out to your 0:05:21.680 --> 0:05:24.760 mom and go, we're cool, and then after that, for 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:28.400 your mom to reveal herself to you as a whole 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:33.400 other person who you enjoy being around, who you say 0:05:33.440 --> 0:05:36.680 you admire, I mean, that's that's pretty that's pretty sweet. 0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:40.880 That's pretty wild to me. Uh, and and and yeah, 0:05:41.000 --> 0:05:42.920 it's probably she was on the. 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:45.600 East coast, so we we won't have a chance to 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:48.920 kind of like be in person together. So it makes 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:52.479 rekindling the relationship a lot easier. I don't have to 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:56.200 fake her, but I do feel like shit, obviously that 0:05:56.279 --> 0:05:59.800 I've fucking made this huge lie up about my mom 0:05:59.839 --> 0:06:02.479 and now here she is. I never thought that she 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:04.440 would ever be back in my life and I'm. 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:06.240 Shitty. 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:10.040 No, Marissa, you don't have shat your pants. And here's why. 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:17.479 The Rissa, the truth of this whole thing is perfectly 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:21.120 understandable to people, like tell like I mean, I mean, 0:06:21.720 --> 0:06:24.640 your only problem, Your only problem is that it's a 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:31.680 long ish story. But dude, if anyone asks Marissa, tell 0:06:31.680 --> 0:06:36.760 them the truth, they'll understand the truth. Like, here's the truth. 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:40.480 Your mom was shitty when you were growing up, and 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:42.880 you resented her for a while, and so to you, 0:06:43.040 --> 0:06:45.279 she pretty much was dead. She was out of your life, 0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:48.520 and you didn't want to have to explain to people 0:06:48.640 --> 0:06:52.520 the complexities of the relationship. She wasn't in your life, 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:56.800 so you told them that she was dead. And that's like, 0:06:56.880 --> 0:07:00.680 I think most people will understand that. You know, you 0:07:00.720 --> 0:07:04.760 didn't lie for some weird, stupid reason like you wanted 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:07.800 to gain sympathy or anything like that. You lied for 0:07:07.920 --> 0:07:10.920 a understandable reason. And like I said to you, she 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:15.960 pretty much was dead. And then why is she at 0:07:15.960 --> 0:07:18.200 your wedding? Well, now you have this amazing story of 0:07:18.280 --> 0:07:22.480 you summoned the courage to forgive her. She revealed herself 0:07:22.520 --> 0:07:27.080 to you as changed. Now you are blossoming a new relationship, 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:29.880 and I think people will find that truth to be 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:32.120 kind of beautiful. So I don't think you need to 0:07:32.120 --> 0:07:34.560 lie about any of this stuff. I think that the 0:07:35.520 --> 0:07:39.240 truth is acceptable, So you don't need to be shitting 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:41.160 your pants. Your only problem is that it will take 0:07:41.160 --> 0:07:44.480 you a little bit to explain. But you totally don't 0:07:44.480 --> 0:07:45.480 need to shoo your pants over this. 0:07:48.800 --> 0:07:52.160 Yeah, I guess you're right, because I mean, I loved 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:53.480 everybody I worked with and. 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:58.280 That I did tell this fallacy too. But you know, 0:07:58.360 --> 0:08:01.160 I don't not all of them in my life, just 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:04.000 you know, the ones that matter to me. 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:06.080 But it's just so it's. 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:09.120 A it's a lot I guess to hold. You know, 0:08:09.200 --> 0:08:11.240 I don't want anything bad to happen to my mom 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:12.040 because I made. 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:14.559 Up this shitty lie. 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:18.000 But I mean, I guess I could only hope. 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:21.960 That my friends would understand that, like what you said, 0:08:22.000 --> 0:08:24.160 I I did it to protect myself. 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:26.679 I think they will. I think if they're good friends, 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:29.080 they will. I don't think you and I want to 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:33.160 reframe your if, like if we could. I'm not a 0:08:33.200 --> 0:08:37.360 real therapist, but let's do this. You you have this 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:40.440 idea of this lie as like a shitty thing, or 0:08:40.480 --> 0:08:43.800 that like it was somehow immoral of you to do. 0:08:46.760 --> 0:08:48.760 Is that true? 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:50.080 Yeah? 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:53.200 Yeah, definitely, I have a lot of guilt about this 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:54.360 lie I've made. 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:57.160 I don't think you should be guilty about this lie. 0:08:57.360 --> 0:08:59.160 I think you should reframe it. I think you should 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:03.800 cut yourself some slegh because it's totally understandable why you 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:07.560 you said this, And I look, I don't know some 0:09:07.600 --> 0:09:10.880 people could even argue it's not a lie. I mean, 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:14.040 maybe here's the here's the sort of argument why why 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:15.640 it's not a lie? Because she was out of your life. 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:19.520 She's practically dead to you. She didn't exist. I mean, 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:22.319 she was not literally dead, but she's practically dead to you. 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:25.760 She didn't exist in your life. Yeah, you didn't feel 0:09:25.760 --> 0:09:32.920 like telling acquaintances the whole long story of all this 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:35.120 shit that you didn't want to revisit, and so you 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:39.280 told them she was dead. You don't owe these people 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:47.800 this long explanation of the literal truth. And every person 0:09:48.240 --> 0:09:50.880 who has any amount of you know, empathy for you 0:09:51.080 --> 0:09:54.320 or considers you their friend, will be able to understand that. 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:56.959 I really do think so. And I don't think you 0:09:56.960 --> 0:10:02.600 should feel guilty about about tell people earlier that your 0:10:02.600 --> 0:10:06.040 mom was dead. I think if anything, I mean, I mean, look, 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:10.000 to me, this is a funny story. I know it's 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:11.960 I know, I know it's I know. It like doesn't 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:15.240 feel like that because there's was a lot of pain 0:10:15.280 --> 0:10:16.960 in there, but it's it's a little funny to me 0:10:18.559 --> 0:10:21.960 because it also ends in a happy and nice way. 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:26.439 Now you've had this beautiful relationship with uh uh, your mom. 0:10:26.760 --> 0:10:30.840 There's a lot of healing, it sounds uh the fact 0:10:30.840 --> 0:10:33.600 that you admire her now and that you're forming this 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:35.240 new land and you're inviting her to your wedding, like 0:10:35.280 --> 0:10:40.960 everything is is like working out like a cool, positive way. 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:44.840 And these feelings of guilt they have, I don't they 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:46.320 don't have a place in this story. 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:46.600 To me. 0:10:47.160 --> 0:10:49.079 This just feels like a kind of a funny story 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:49.320 to me. 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:54.959 Okay, old, oh my god, a lot of funny stories 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:55.600 about my trauma. 0:10:55.679 --> 0:11:01.440 Lyle, Well, well, I mean, I really do, I really 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:04.240 do want you to not feel guilty about this. And 0:11:04.360 --> 0:11:06.760 I'm not reading the chat, but I think a lot 0:11:06.800 --> 0:11:08.199 of people I'm. 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:11.520 Telling you better about it. You're communicating it very well, 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:15.680 and I appreciate you listening to it. It's you know, 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:17.920 like I said, I've carried it a lot. You know, 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:23.880 it's been years since I told anybody about this. You know, 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:28.880 this was back in I don't know twenty nineteen, twenty 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:33.720 eighteen that I started telling people this, And yeah, I 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:35.360 think you're right. I just felt like it was a 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:38.600 guilty It was just a part of my life I 0:11:38.640 --> 0:11:41.040 didn't want to experience anymore because she wasn't a part 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:42.960 of it. Now she's back, And if anyone has to 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:46.439 ask any questions, I just tell them the truth, guilt free. 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:49.679 Tell you please, please, please tell them the truth guilt free. 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:54.200 Because the truth. Anyone listening to this any like the 0:11:54.360 --> 0:11:57.760 truth of this story. You don't have to lie anymore, 0:11:57.800 --> 0:12:02.160 like this is the truth of this story is understandable 0:12:02.160 --> 0:12:11.440 to anyone who has any empathy for you. 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:14.840 You right lyle fucking get forever. 0:12:19.880 --> 0:12:22.240 I want to ask real quick before we go, what 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:25.560 can you tell me where the guilt is like coming from? 0:12:25.600 --> 0:12:27.680 Like what's the crux of the guilt. Are you guilty? 0:12:28.240 --> 0:12:32.000 Like who do you feel like you're hurting with this lie? 0:12:32.760 --> 0:12:37.240 You know, you don't oh your work, acquaintances, the literal 0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:39.760 truth of anything, Like where do you feel like this 0:12:39.800 --> 0:12:42.600 guilt is coming from? 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:46.839 I mean, maybe my I do just feel bad my mom. 0:12:46.920 --> 0:12:49.000 You know, she might be upset about that, But I 0:12:49.040 --> 0:12:51.680 don't think that's something that I would ever tell my mom. 0:12:52.760 --> 0:12:54.800 I kind of even have in a way that I've 0:12:55.559 --> 0:12:58.120 I've told her kind of blatantly and straight up to 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:02.080 that I kind of killed her off in a sense. 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:04.560 And I don't talk about her and I don't think 0:13:04.559 --> 0:13:08.040 about her, And you know, it's really just kind of 0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:12.240 knowing that I lied about something that some people would 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:14.679 consider to be really serious. 0:13:15.280 --> 0:13:15.680 M hmm. 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:19.280 That's kind of it, just knowing that I lied. You know, 0:13:19.320 --> 0:13:23.560 I'm really big on honesty overall. I'm a little too 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:27.480 honest up tons, But just knowing that that is a 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:31.320 lie that occurred, and that it's kind of a big one, 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:33.760 and that's that's kind of it. 0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:36.880 I think if you're at a point with your mom 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:41.520 where you're repairing the relationship, I think, so your mom 0:13:41.559 --> 0:13:43.040 doesn't know that you told everyone. 0:13:42.800 --> 0:13:43.240 She was dead. 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:48.920 No, she knows that I have killed her off in 0:13:48.960 --> 0:13:52.200 a way, but she thinks that that's kind of you know, 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:56.280 between being myself and I not between me myself and 0:13:56.320 --> 0:13:58.320 my co workers in my old roommate. 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:00.800 You know. But that's a lot. 0:14:00.920 --> 0:14:01.400 I'm sure. 0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:05.480 Okay, I'll say this. I think if you don't, you know, 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:08.560 I obviously you don't have to do anything. But if 0:14:08.600 --> 0:14:11.679 you were to tell your mom that you told every 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:15.960 when she was dead, I don't think that's a horrible 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:24.440 thing because your mom, like in this process of rebuilding 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:29.400 your relationship, when you're telling her the truth of hey, 0:14:30.720 --> 0:14:33.440 you did all these things and they were fucked up, 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:36.080 and so I told her when you were dead and 0:14:36.120 --> 0:14:39.040 like that and that's the truth. Like part of the 0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:42.200 healing process should be her accepting that truth. And I 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:43.880 don't again, I don't. I don't know. I don't know 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:46.560 a whole lot about your relationship with her or where 0:14:46.600 --> 0:14:48.280 it is right now. 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:47.960 But. 0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:53.640 I feel like if it's in a good place, she 0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:55.280 should be able to accept that truth. 0:14:57.720 --> 0:15:01.280 Yeah, well she's coming to is it my partner and 0:15:01.320 --> 0:15:04.280 I in about two weeks, so uh, maybe that'll be 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:05.160 a good time to tell. 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:09.240 Her, beautiful what kind of what kind of food are 0:15:09.240 --> 0:15:11.360 we getting at this wedding? Will there be a chocolate fountain? 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:12.520 Will there be mac and cheese? 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:17.720 I've talked multiple times for my partner about this. I 0:15:17.840 --> 0:15:21.160 desperately want pizza at my wedding. It's just a kind 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:23.280 of bitch that I am pizza forever. 0:15:23.360 --> 0:15:25.480 Can you tell me or what kind of is it? Like? 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:28.840 Are you going to get? Yeah, doude, tell well what 0:15:28.920 --> 0:15:31.040 kind of pizza? Is this like from a from a 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:33.360 name brand pizza joint or is this like a catering 0:15:33.440 --> 0:15:34.640 company's pizza option? 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:39.320 Well, I would prefer name brand. 0:15:39.640 --> 0:15:39.960 Uh. 0:15:40.080 --> 0:15:43.680 If anything Mod pizza, shout out Mod? 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:46.280 What kind of a Mod pizza? Can we get? A 0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:50.920 We need a Mod pizza sponsorship for your wedding. I 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:52.360 don't know how we can get that going, but if 0:15:52.400 --> 0:15:53.160 anyone listens to. 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:58.320 This, absolutely sponsor my wedding because I worked there for 0:15:58.440 --> 0:16:01.120 like almost four years, Well that would be amazing. 0:16:02.320 --> 0:16:04.960 Marsa, get yourself some goddamn Mod pizza at your wedding, 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:08.200 Mazel tav on the marriage, and thank you very much 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:09.600 for sharing all this with us. 0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:12.680 Thank you lyle Gek forever. 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:13.800 I love you, buddy. 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:19.080 Thanks versa, have a good night. Well that was fucking fascinating. 0:16:19.920 --> 0:16:22.720 I I really do feel like that was that to 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:25.720 me is it is a funny story. It's like, like 0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:30.200 I know that the background of it, there's like a 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:35.560 lot of fucked up feelings, but it's it's like, I 0:16:35.560 --> 0:16:37.480 don't know, it's a little funny. You told everyone that 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:40.920 your mom is dead, and then you repaired your relationship, 0:16:41.480 --> 0:16:46.480 and now she's coming back to your wedding. Like when 0:16:46.480 --> 0:16:51.360 you tell this, like these these things that in the 0:16:51.520 --> 0:16:54.960 moment of them have these like you know, you got 0:16:55.040 --> 0:17:01.440 guilt and you got uh shame or whatever else feelings 0:17:01.440 --> 0:17:03.520 are going on. But when you tell that story, when 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:07.439 you tell the whole of that story in a retrospective 0:17:07.920 --> 0:17:11.320 and the truth of it, it's a good story. It's 0:17:11.359 --> 0:17:14.600 kind of a beautiful story that they were able to 0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:18.840 repair their relationship after all this nonsense, and she's at 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:22.840 the wedding and she's alive. It's got a good ending 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:24.680 to it. So I don't think she should be afraid 0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:24.960 of it. 0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:31.640 Hello, Hello, Hello, how are you doing. 0:17:35.359 --> 0:17:37.400 I'm hanging out. I'm being a gecko on the computer. 0:17:37.440 --> 0:17:40.120 How are you? 0:17:40.119 --> 0:17:41.760 You know, just chilling? You a hobby? 0:17:42.880 --> 0:17:44.480 I actually don't know how. I've never talked to you 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:46.320 before in my life. 0:17:47.000 --> 0:17:49.880 I was about to say, but please tell me how 0:17:49.920 --> 0:17:50.159 you be. 0:17:50.320 --> 0:17:52.159 I want to that's why we're on the phone. Hears too, 0:17:52.200 --> 0:17:53.080 I want to know how you be. 0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:57.560 I'll be pretty good, you know, I'm just chilling. You know, 0:17:58.000 --> 0:18:00.840 I got today off work. You know, this great holiday, 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:04.000 you know, if you're as white male, great holiday. So 0:18:04.160 --> 0:18:04.840 you know pretty good? 0:18:04.960 --> 0:18:12.639 Sure? Okay, well maze, tell me what you you wanted 0:18:12.680 --> 0:18:15.000 to talk about today. 0:18:15.080 --> 0:18:21.119 So I'm I'm terrified. I've always found humor in people 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:25.600 being in defeat. And then I was talking to my 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:27.320 dad the other day and he was a little tipsy 0:18:27.880 --> 0:18:31.200 and he admitted to me that he was in defeat. 0:18:31.880 --> 0:18:34.439 So naturally, what do you do? You you you you 0:18:34.560 --> 0:18:36.399 go talk to your siblings and see, I. 0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:42.880 Thought you said you found humor in people being in defeat, 0:18:43.600 --> 0:18:50.880 like like like like to okay, you're you're saying in two. 0:18:50.720 --> 0:18:57.639 Feet in space to space feet period. 0:18:57.840 --> 0:18:59.280 I think into is one word. 0:18:59.040 --> 0:19:03.720 Though, bro I went to I went to school in Alabama. 0:19:03.880 --> 0:19:08.240 My grammar is not great. I'm not good with words 0:19:08.320 --> 0:19:11.680 or maths, but you know, I do. I do my best. 0:19:12.440 --> 0:19:13.280 Okay, I respect that. 0:19:16.160 --> 0:19:18.240 But yeah, So I went and talked to my sister, 0:19:18.280 --> 0:19:22.879 and my sister told me that she finds people's She 0:19:23.280 --> 0:19:27.840 is aesthetically into people's arches. And I am curious if 0:19:27.880 --> 0:19:31.000 that means that. Do you think she is in defeat? 0:19:31.240 --> 0:19:33.439 Is in defeat? And if so, do you think that 0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:35.160 is an hereditary thing? 0:19:37.680 --> 0:19:40.720 Interesting? So your father drunkenly told you that he is 0:19:40.760 --> 0:19:44.760 a foot fetish, and then you started asking your siblings 0:19:45.640 --> 0:19:47.400 about whether or not they have foot fetishes. 0:19:48.960 --> 0:19:52.119 Even worse, my father said he is into a bunch 0:19:52.240 --> 0:19:56.920 of stuff. He didn't specify, but he said he's into 0:19:56.920 --> 0:19:59.720 a bunch of different things. And I don't really want 0:19:59.760 --> 0:20:01.240 to know what that means. 0:20:01.920 --> 0:20:03.560 Okay, I would also not want to know what that 0:20:03.600 --> 0:20:08.400 means if my father told me that. And why how 0:20:08.400 --> 0:20:11.040 did you start this conversation with your sister again? I 0:20:11.400 --> 0:20:12.560 feel like I glossed over that. 0:20:15.040 --> 0:20:16.800 I just asked her if I was in feed I 0:20:16.800 --> 0:20:18.879 played a lot of online video games, and my first 0:20:18.920 --> 0:20:21.120 question is people, If people can send me feet picks, 0:20:21.160 --> 0:20:23.840 because that's that's it's funny. It gets the other team 0:20:23.880 --> 0:20:27.200 on their toes. So I just naturally was like, hey, 0:20:27.640 --> 0:20:30.600 like are you are you in defeat? And she said, 0:20:30.600 --> 0:20:36.080 well no, but I find people's arches aesthetically pleasing. 0:20:37.240 --> 0:20:40.760 Okay, all right, so now you know that about your sister. 0:20:42.280 --> 0:20:45.440 You could have stopped into your family's foot fetish right 0:20:45.440 --> 0:20:48.640 at your dad. Well you chose to investigate further into 0:20:48.680 --> 0:20:49.080 your sister. 0:20:50.240 --> 0:20:51.560 Have you ever seen national treasure? 0:20:51.600 --> 0:20:54.359 With Nicholas Cage, I have not seen nationalist treasure. 0:20:55.800 --> 0:20:58.040 You haven't seen natural national treasure? 0:20:58.880 --> 0:21:02.280 No, I know it's the Declaration of Independence. I think 0:21:02.320 --> 0:21:03.479 it is right? Is that the same? 0:21:05.160 --> 0:21:05.480 Yes? 0:21:05.600 --> 0:21:09.600 Yes, My search into my family's foot fetish thing is 0:21:09.640 --> 0:21:12.640 like Nicholas Cage trying to find the Declaration. 0:21:12.200 --> 0:21:13.879 Of This is your national treasure? 0:21:13.920 --> 0:21:14.159 Got it? 0:21:14.200 --> 0:21:15.760 I'm sorry, I. 0:21:15.320 --> 0:21:18.560 This is this is my this is my familiar or 0:21:18.800 --> 0:21:23.000 a family or treasure whatever. 0:21:23.000 --> 0:21:23.680 Felt's your vout. 0:21:24.440 --> 0:21:26.760 Okay, So I haven't I haven't talked. 0:21:28.040 --> 0:21:31.680 No, No, keep going please, No, I haven't asked. 0:21:31.520 --> 0:21:34.760 My grandmother yet. But I mean I wouldn't be surprised 0:21:34.800 --> 0:21:37.679 if she is. She's she's all over the place, you know, 0:21:37.720 --> 0:21:42.800 and she's very active sexually, So I maybe maybe my 0:21:42.840 --> 0:21:44.600 grandmother is my next step to ask her. 0:21:44.640 --> 0:21:50.879 But yeah, what is it that that leads you to 0:21:50.920 --> 0:21:53.600 believe that your grandmother is very active sexually? How do 0:21:53.640 --> 0:21:54.280 you know that. 0:21:55.960 --> 0:21:59.240 She's just always kind of hopping around from boyfriend to 0:21:59.320 --> 0:22:02.639 boyfriend to get uh, you know, like she's been married 0:22:02.640 --> 0:22:05.800 six times and the grandpa or her husband whenever I 0:22:05.880 --> 0:22:10.000 growing up, had a porno DVD that my mother found 0:22:10.080 --> 0:22:15.120 called Daddy her Mommy loves Pooh. Ever since then, we've 0:22:15.160 --> 0:22:17.160 always just kind of been prying at her how big 0:22:17.200 --> 0:22:22.119 her original husband's cock was, so, I mean, it's always 0:22:22.119 --> 0:22:24.000 just been kind of like a joke. But also it's 0:22:24.040 --> 0:22:28.480 always been very clear that she does get it. My 0:22:28.480 --> 0:22:31.640 my dad's mother, we found a pair of edible panties 0:22:31.680 --> 0:22:33.880 in her garage when we were cleaning it out. 0:22:36.960 --> 0:22:40.439 You know, I feel like your this is your this 0:22:40.560 --> 0:22:43.679