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Speaker 1: Welcome into Northside Territory, presented by Fox One Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: Networks Cubs Podcast. I'm Sahadev Sharma with my partner Patrick Mooney.

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Speaker 1: We are your Cubs beat writers over at the Athletic Patrick.

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Speaker 1: We know the Cubs are going to be active in

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Speaker 1: the pitching market, whether it's trade, whether it's signing free agents,

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Speaker 1: whatever it may be. They are always looking for pitching.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what type of season they're coming off of.

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Speaker 1: You have to be active in the pitching market if

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Speaker 1: you want to be competitive.

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Speaker 2: Pitching depth is essential.

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Speaker 1: The pitching staff was solid, if unspectacular, I guess, is

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Speaker 1: how i'd describe it. Like a lot of trusted guys

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Speaker 1: in there. You feel comfortable with a lot of these guys,

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Speaker 1: but also they were lacking stuff. They're lacking strikeouts in

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Speaker 1: the starting rotation, and they're always rebuilding the bullpen. That's

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Speaker 1: just kind of of how it's going to go for

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Speaker 1: the foreseeable future. On this episode, we were let's touch

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Speaker 1: on you know, five five guys and they kind of

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Speaker 1: like all fit a mold in a sense, and maybe

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Speaker 1: each guy is representative of maybe it's not just that

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Speaker 1: one guy, but like a category or something like that

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Speaker 1: that they this is what they're going to pursue. Trade

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Speaker 1: candidates I think are going to be really interesting this year.

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Speaker 1: It seems like there's some big names that may be

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Speaker 1: out there. One name of a team that's selling that

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Speaker 1: seems like they're selling Minnesota Twins. Joe Ryan is a

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Speaker 1: name that we heard during the deadline. Joe Ryan is

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Speaker 1: the type of picture that I think it would fit

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Speaker 1: just brilliantly with the Cubs and exactly what they're looking for.

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Speaker 1: High strikeout rate, doesn't walk guys, and then you know,

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Speaker 1: just like front of the rotation stuff, really what the

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Speaker 1: Cubs could use.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know.

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Speaker 4: Our buddy Dan Hayesen in Minnesota covered that fire sale,

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Speaker 4: which really was kind of wild because I was in

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Speaker 4: Minnesota in early July and I'm pretty sure they won

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Speaker 4: a series against the Cubs and looked pretty good and

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Speaker 4: thought they were.

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Speaker 3: Maybe making a case to not sell.

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Speaker 4: The deadline and you know, there's been all this ownership

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Speaker 4: uncertainty there and it just doesn't make much sense to me.

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Speaker 4: If the ownership group takes on some investors and takes

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Speaker 4: the franchise off the market, and if the front office

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Speaker 4: you know, makes all of these wholesale changes at the

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Speaker 4: major league level, including firing a manager who did a

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Speaker 4: pretty good job on balance over the years. Like, if

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Speaker 4: you're starting over, why do you keep this guy around?

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Speaker 4: I'm still I'm not sure like what the Cubs have

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Speaker 4: to offer in terms of like if you're going to

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Speaker 4: be kind of building around Owen Casey and moist Spy

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Speaker 4: Asteros as part of a post Kyle Tucker plan. You

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Speaker 4: outline this very well around the trade deadline of like

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Speaker 4: Cubs don't have a lot of those sort of like

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Speaker 4: far away guys that are easier to trade, and like

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Speaker 4: the middle of their system isn't quite there. It's just

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Speaker 4: very top heavy with those sort of Triple A Iowa

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Speaker 4: Wriglely adjacent prospects that you need throughout the course of

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Speaker 4: the season, and pitching wise is just there's just not

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Speaker 4: a lot of like intrigue there at this point of

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Speaker 4: that can change relatively quickly, but outside of maybe Jackson

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Speaker 4: Wiggins and obviously Kate Horton is a leading Rookie of

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Speaker 4: the Year candidate, but other than that, there's not a

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Speaker 4: ton of like super interesting young pitching. If you're trying

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Speaker 4: to entice the Twins to make that deal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great point. It's not as easy as

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Speaker 1: we want this guy. Let's go get them. They there

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Speaker 1: are you know, how do they decide what they're going

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Speaker 1: to do with those prospects. How do they decide, you know,

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Speaker 1: are they going to bring a veteran in as far

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Speaker 1: as a position player to allow them to trade some

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Speaker 1: guys or does it you know that that's you know,

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Speaker 1: we talked about Alex Regman. The potential reunion with Kyle

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Speaker 1: Tucker seems like a huge long shot. You bring in

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Speaker 1: a veteran, a trusted veteran, then you feel more comfortable

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Speaker 1: trading someone like ohen Casey or even Matt Shaw or

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Speaker 1: Moyses Biasteros. You don't love it because these are major

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Speaker 1: league talents right now, guys that can play in the

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Speaker 1: big leagues right now and have and you don't that's

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Speaker 1: to give up if you're in this, if you're if

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Speaker 1: you're trying to be this team that's constantly churning out

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Speaker 1: There there's you need that young talent and Jed Hoyer

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Speaker 1: loves to talk about how you know, young talent is

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Speaker 1: the lifeblood of an organization. Uh, if you're constantly trading

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Speaker 1: easy decisions, and these aren't things that I think are layups.

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Speaker 1: Free agency may be the better route to go. You know,

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Speaker 1: it may just be what what they what they end

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Speaker 1: up doing. Let's let's put our next player under the

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Speaker 1: DraftKings spotlight, all right, Patrick Dylan Cees. Dylan Cees is

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Speaker 1: going to be our DraftKings player spotlight. He is, you know,

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Speaker 1: a former Cubs prospect, part of that draft class with

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Speaker 1: Justin Steele, you know, traded in the Big hoose a

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Speaker 1: Quintana deal, and and you know he's when you talk

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Speaker 1: about stuff, when you talk about strikeouts, you're talking about

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Speaker 1: a guy like Dylan Cees. He's coming off a down season.

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Speaker 1: I think that's that's kind of the question, right, what

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Speaker 1: is his price? And that I don't think it matters

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Speaker 1: that he's coming off a down season in the sense

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Speaker 1: that the Cubs don't care if they believe he can perform,

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Speaker 1: If they believe he can be a solid pitcher, then hey,

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Speaker 1: go go get him.

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Speaker 2: If the price is right.

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Speaker 1: I think that's that's the debate that we need to

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Speaker 1: like focus on. What's the rice here for for a

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Speaker 1: Dylan Seas.

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Speaker 4: I almost think his down season makes him more attractive

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Speaker 4: to the Cubs, just knowing how they think and how

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Speaker 4: they project out potential deals the costs. I for me,

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Speaker 4: I think the stuff, the durability, the background they have

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Speaker 4: on him is really appealing, which probably means the Cubs

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Speaker 4: won't do this. Like if I think this is a

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Speaker 4: good idea, they probably are gonna say, well, he's well,

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Speaker 4: last I checked.

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Speaker 3: He's a Scott Boris guy. Unless something has changed recently.

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Speaker 4: He's been with Scott Boris for quite some time, and

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Speaker 4: the Cubs don't have like a they have an okay

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Speaker 4: relationship with him, but they don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't think they're like, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, first calls for each other. I'm assuming he'll be

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Speaker 4: attached with a qualifying offer, which will be a lot

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Speaker 4: of these pictures kind of in this bucket, which I

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Speaker 4: think will give the Cubs some pause. But you know,

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Speaker 4: when you talk to people in the Cubs organization throughout

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Speaker 4: the years, as we have done, I just had these

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Speaker 4: different checkpoints, whether it's the that Kyle Schwarber draft class

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Speaker 4: and his blow Slot deal which allowed them to take.

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Speaker 4: Of high school, or some of the people who dealt

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Speaker 4: with Cease during his rehab program. He underwent Tommy John

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Speaker 4: as a Cup I believe that was almost like the plan.

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Speaker 3: Basically when they drafted him, but that you know, they

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Speaker 4: People raved about his his work ethic, and his commitment.

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Speaker 4: He was someone who was very intrigued by some of

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Speaker 4: these new pitching concepts and new pitching technology that the

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Speaker 4: Cubs were bringing on board around that time. So I

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Speaker 4: think there's kind of a lot to work with. Having

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Speaker 4: said that, the Padres are also known as a very

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Speaker 4: progressive pitching organization with some great instructors and a really

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Speaker 4: good pitching environment. So it's not like you're taking him

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Speaker 4: from the Washington Nationals and thinking, like, all of a sudden,

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Speaker 4: we can unlock something here. Yeah, but I don't know,

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Speaker 4: you've gotta at least explore this opportunity and see where

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's it's all about what his market

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Speaker 1: be looking for like a bounce back type deal. He

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Speaker 1: twenty five. I mean, he's out there every start. The

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Speaker 1: era is elevated, but the strikeout rate is pushing thirty percent.

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Speaker 1: Dyllancyes has had success walking guys. When you strike out

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Speaker 1: nearly thirty percent of the batters you face, it's okay

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Speaker 1: to have a walk rate pushing ten percent. You'll figure

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Speaker 1: it out. He's you know, playing in Wrigley Field probably

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Speaker 1: beneficial to him. But I think it would be all

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Speaker 1: you know, is he looking for two or three years?

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Speaker 1: Is that the type of deal he's looking for. I'd

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Speaker 2: So like, this is probably a five year deal.

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Speaker 1: And when you start talking about that at the price

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Speaker 1: that you know how much strikeouts cost nowadays, I just,

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Speaker 1: Are the Cubs the only team that are gonna look

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Speaker 2: So that's my general thought on whether.

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Speaker 1: It would make sense, Like it makes complete sense, but

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Speaker 1: whether that contract is gonna make sense, I just don't

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Speaker 1: you know. And you mentioned the probably the biggest factor

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Speaker 2: It's Scott Boris.

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Speaker 1: Unless he's looking for Cody Bellinger type deal something like that,

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Speaker 1: We don't have a clear idea on the market yet

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Speaker 1: for him. All right, let's throw it to Alana Rizzo

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Speaker 1: for our North side territory pick.

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Speaker 5: All right, thanks the hot, I appreciated my World Series

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Speaker 5: Game one pick is the Dodgers to win by two

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Speaker 5: at plus one thirteen. Forget the Dodgers rust on the

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Speaker 5: road in a rackus ballpark. I'll take the series' favorites

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Speaker 5: to pick up or they left off against the Brewers.

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Speaker 5: I put one hundred dollars on the Dodgers run line

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Speaker 5: minus one and a half, so to win by two

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Speaker 5: at plus one thirteen. It's the hot, even Patrick, back

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Speaker 2: Patrick.

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Speaker 1: I think we went over these names. I think this

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Speaker 2: Michael King. Michael King.

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Speaker 1: When he's right, he strikes guys out. When he's healthy,

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Speaker 1: A couple of years and you take the you know,

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Speaker 1: But this is the type. This is the profile you're

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Speaker 4: It's it's it's pitchability, baseball IQ, A willingness to learn,

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Speaker 3: It doesn't always work like that.

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Speaker 3: And I think King sort of is that profile.

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Speaker 4: of you know, you could really just cross reference King's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's you know, when the Padres have been

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Speaker 2: I don't know how long that's been. Now been like

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Speaker 1: total costs. Michael King was a name that we'd heard

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Speaker 1: that and yes, he fits well with what everything that

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Speaker 2: I think he'd fit well in that clubhouse.

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Speaker 1: I believe he was a teammate with Jamison ty Own

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Speaker 2: I just think it makes a ton of sense this

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Speaker 1: Look, if you're gonna make a splash, I think this

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Speaker 1: But obviously there's a connection here Devin Williams coming off

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Speaker 1: It's an interesting name because of the Craig Council connection,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure is he you know, I think everything else

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Speaker 1: You look at all the other stuff coming off of

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Speaker 4: I mean, if you're not if you think Brad Keller's

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Speaker 4: don't know. Devin Williams is a pretty nice option. I

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Speaker 4: Maybe it's not Andrew Kittridge's club option.

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Speaker 3: Uh. I think you need some certainty back there.

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Speaker 4: I mean, the one thing Jed Hoyer will acknowledge is

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Speaker 4: office for for a manager, I mean, compared to other

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Speaker 4: would be interesting, let's let's do it. And I do

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Speaker 4: wonder if Williams would fit in that, coming off of

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Speaker 4: going to a ninety two win team where you know

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Speaker 4: an opportunity to rack up a ton of saves. The

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Speaker 4: Cubs can offer that. They can go to any of

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Speaker 4: these free agency you get first crack at closing. You're

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Speaker 4: we're not going to make you our closer. You know,

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Speaker 4: Ryan Presley was just first primary save getter or however

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Speaker 2: To kind of push back against myself, I guess they were.

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Speaker 1: They did trade for and then paid Ryan Presley a

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Speaker 1: Tanner Scott pretty hefty price. Would they be willing to

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Speaker 1: give Devin Williams what the market bears for him? Maybe

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Speaker 1: it's not as unreasonable as I initially felt just like

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Speaker 1: going over those two things like, well, we'll see. I

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Speaker 1: guess it all depends on how much do they like

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Speaker 1: this is now the second time I've said that for

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Speaker 3: A certain point though, they got to like stretch a

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Speaker 1: And I agree with you, like they can't go in

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Speaker 1: It just feels really uncomfortable going into a season without

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: I see no reason why they wouldn't go after him

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Speaker 1: This opportunity even but it was the last time they won,

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Speaker 1: All right, Patrick, let's get back to talking Cubs and

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Speaker 1: Azuki matter for for the Cubs and their ability to

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Speaker 1: show like, hey, look, look, we have a nice presence

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Speaker 1: here in Japan. I think something interesting and you brought

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Speaker 1: this up, and I think it's fascinating. It's not just

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Speaker 1: Japanese players that they're out there scouting. And a name

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Speaker 1: that you heard and I looked up his numbers. I

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Speaker 1: remember this name, first round draft pick years ago out

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Speaker 1: of high school. Foster Griffin has some really good and

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Speaker 1: some really good numbers out in the MPB. And how

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Speaker 1: old is he he is he's going to be thirty,

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Speaker 1: he's going to enter his age thirty season, or he

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Speaker 1: just turned thirty two months ago, you know, Lefty.

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Speaker 2: I think he fits this. That kind of fits the

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Speaker 2: Cubs to a t.

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Speaker 1: Not going to be crazy expensive, I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think that's a great pull on your part and

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Speaker 1: a name that we need to be, you know, keep

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Speaker 1: on our radar at minimum.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he was on their radar before.

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Speaker 4: The start of the Tokyo series, been on their radar

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Speaker 4: for quite some time as the Cubs sort of planted

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Speaker 4: their flag in Asia. That was something that Jed Hoyer

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Speaker 4: made a priority as he took over for theo Epstein

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Speaker 4: and as a sort of reorganized the front office. And

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Speaker 4: I think for our purposes here, Foster Griffin is not

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Speaker 4: just the target, is sort of symbolic of like that

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Speaker 4: list of names, like might have been a bit a

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Speaker 4: dozen when we were kind of working on one of

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Speaker 4: those stories, and that was all at the time they

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Speaker 4: didn't know exactly who'd be coming out, and maybe some

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Speaker 4: of these names are staggered and they kind of look at,

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Speaker 4: you know, classes on a fluid basis of maybe this

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Speaker 4: off season, maybe the following off season. But you know,

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Speaker 4: Griffin follows a trend that we've seen of guys, you know,

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Speaker 4: who don't make it in the States and need a

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Speaker 4: chance to reset, a chance to focus, a change of scenery.

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Speaker 4: Maybe they mature overseas. I don't know exactly his own

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Speaker 4: his individual story, but I think enough of these success

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Speaker 4: stories have happened that you sort of have to be

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Speaker 4: in that market, uh and and be open to those possibilities. Now,

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Speaker 4: I don't think the cops have as good as an advantage,

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Speaker 4: you know, with an American born player, obviously they've they've

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Speaker 4: sort of carved out this space of you know, what

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Speaker 4: was Jed's phrase, like say as Shoda and many more.

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Speaker 3: This is a little different.

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Speaker 4: But I think, you know, you saw with their investment

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Speaker 4: in Shoda that they had a lot of context, They

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Speaker 4: had a lot of data, They had a lot of

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Speaker 4: eyes on him to where they could be nimble and

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Speaker 4: pounds you know when he sort of lingered on the

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Speaker 4: free agent market, maybe a little longer than he had expected,

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Speaker 4: and they had the conviction because they had sort of

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Speaker 4: the people in the process behind it. And I think

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Speaker 4: Foster Griffin will be, you know, part of that next

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Speaker 4: wave that they'll be on this offseason.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he makes a lot of sense, probably won't break

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Speaker 1: the bank. There are players being posted, Japanese players being posted.

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Speaker 1: You know, one name that's probably going to get a

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Speaker 1: lot of buzz is Tatsuya and my big name could

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Speaker 1: be a big number. Price wise, we'll see if the

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Speaker 1: Cubs are involved. Well, well, we don't know yet. We

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Speaker 1: don't have a good feel on that just yet. Could

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Speaker 1: be priced out of that market or maybe not. Maybe

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Speaker 1: maybe the numbers aren't as crazy and they love this

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Speaker 1: guy and then think it's worth the worth whatever the

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Speaker 1: cost may be. There are bats that the Cubs will

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Speaker 1: mean the Cubs will surely show interest in, and then yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think players like Foster Griffin just we need to

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Speaker 1: keep an eye out on that who could bounce back,

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Speaker 1: who could be looking for a return. And it's not

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Speaker 1: just Japanese league, it's a Korean league as well. It's

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Speaker 1: worth keeping an eye on former draft picks that, you know,

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Speaker 1: guys that came over to Japan or Korea and have

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Speaker 1: reinvented themselves. It's certainly something we've been alerted to to

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Speaker 1: keep an eye out for. So we'll tell you Cubs

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Speaker 1: fans to do the same. All right. We will be

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Speaker 1: back next week with more episodes of Northside Territory. Make

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Speaker 1: sure to rate, review, subscribe, subscribe to the YouTube channel,

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Speaker 1: and subscribe to the Athletic. Patrick and I are on

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Speaker 1: top of all things Cubs. Thanks so much for listening

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Speaker 1: to everyone.

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Speaker 2: Take care