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There's a you know, there's 12 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 1: a lot of talk about Ty Simpson, and you know 13 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: we had talked about this today, Tom that I do 14 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 1: think he's a lower first round guy, better than Kenny Pickett. 15 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: I don't think he's his talent that is Malik Willis, 16 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 1: but I like him more than most. I don't think 17 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,639 Speaker 1: he's Fernando Mendoza, but dan Orlawski throws it out there 18 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: at silly season. 19 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 3: But I do think he has good tape. 20 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: And I think, and I said this about Jackson Dart, Tom, 21 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: when you have lanefing for three years into Brian day Bolt, 22 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: that's a good handoff. That's a lot of smart coaching. 23 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: Ole Miss plays in the SEC. You've seen real defenses. 24 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:11,759 Speaker 1: Same thing I mean, Kaylin de boor Nick Saban. I mean, 25 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: is ty Simpson despite those few starts, when you talk 26 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 1: to guys in the league, is he a guy like 27 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: Jackson Dart? You know somebody it takes one team to 28 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: fall in love with you. The Giants did. Could he 29 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: be like a mid round first round pick? 30 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 4: I think he's different Colin than Jackson Dart in that 31 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 4: with Jackson Darry, you're trying to project what you're seeing 32 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 4: in that Ole Miss offense, which does have some pro 33 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 4: concepts to what he's going to be asked to do 34 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 4: in the NFL if you want to like, if you 35 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 4: want to buy in the Tye Simpson and some coaches 36 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 4: in front office people certainly do. You're looking at the 37 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 4: fact that there's a lot of things on tape. You 38 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 4: recognize he is under center. He's turning his back to 39 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 4: the line of scrimmage on play action more than virtually 40 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 4: anybody in the country, which is something that anybody from 41 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 4: the McVeigh shanahan type of system you want to see 42 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 4: him do. Obviously, the second half of the season didn't 43 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 4: go as well, he had a pretty severe case of gastritis. 44 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 4: He dropped under two hundred pounds. We all saw him 45 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 4: getting knocked around in the Bowl game. Listen, I'm not 46 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 4: making any excuses for the guy, but the protection wasn't great. 47 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 4: There were quite a few drop balls in the end 48 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 4: of production wasn't good enough. 49 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 2: It's a gamble. 50 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 4: There's a lot of coaches and executives in the NFL 51 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 4: that really believe if you don't have twenty starts, it's 52 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 4: too much of a risk coming out of college. Ty 53 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 4: Simpson is below that Banana Menjoes is more of a 54 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 4: projection in terms of the offense he's coming from, but 55 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 4: you've also seen him do it for a long time 56 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 4: in big situations, including the National Championship. There's no doubt 57 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 4: in my mind for Nanda Mendoza is going to be 58 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 4: the number one pick to the Raiders. Does Ty Simpson 59 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 4: go in the top half of the first round? I 60 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 4: wouldn't rule that out at the end of the day. 61 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,519 Speaker 4: There's such a drop off to the next tier quarterbacks. 62 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 2: Listen. 63 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 4: It's still early in the process here, but hard for 64 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 4: me to believe that ty Simpson has not ending up 65 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 4: going in Round one. 66 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 1: So I'm going to throw this at you. So you know, 67 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy can say whatever he wants. You know, Aaron's 68 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: not giving him an answer. He's done that dance before, 69 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: and Will Howard kind of projects as a backup. You 70 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: look at Pittsburgh and I can see Mike McCarthy brought 71 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 1: some of his packer staff over. You know, he he 72 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: left Dallas. He didn't want the silliness. So I look 73 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: at the Aaron thing, and I think Mike's dealt with Aaron. 74 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: He's dealt with Jerry Jones. He wants stability. And I 75 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:30,119 Speaker 1: could see Tom, Mike McCarthy's saying, Hey, I don't want 76 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: to get we're too good of a roster. I don't 77 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: want to get into a bidding war next year for 78 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: quarterbacks and have to give up three ones. We may 79 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: be able to give up a two and get our 80 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: future quarterback. And again, we don't know what Aaron's doing Pittsburgh. 81 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: To me, I mean, the backup's a backup. Your star's older. 82 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: You need a quarterback? Why not? I mean McCarthy's an 83 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: offensive guy. He made Cooper Rush viable. Doesn't Pittsburgh make 84 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: some sense? 85 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 4: You have to wonder if the Can Pickett draft pick 86 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 4: that you brought up scars them organizationally at least a 87 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 4: little bit. Because Kenny Pickett was in the same draft 88 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 4: as Malik Willis and Desmond Ritter, among others. Nobody thought 89 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 4: Kenny Pickett was like a really bonafide clear QB one, 90 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 4: but he was good enough. He obviously had been literally 91 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 4: in the building connected to them playing at pit. They 92 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 4: had seen a ton of tape. You want to talk 93 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 4: about the guy who started a game. He started over 94 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 4: fifty games in college. But there's a reason those guys 95 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 4: go in the middle of the first round, and the 96 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 4: hit rate on anybody as a quarterback who's not going 97 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 4: in the top ten to twelve picks is substantially lower. 98 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 2: Here. 99 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 4: I would also say this, there's nobody in the league 100 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 4: coaching wise that I would trust more in terms of 101 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 4: quarterback evaluation and development. To Mike McCarthy. It's a big 102 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 4: reason that he's in Pittsburgh right now. You look at 103 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 4: through the course of time he's had I think top 104 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 4: ten offenses, like thirteen of his eighteen seasons. 105 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 2: He developed Aaron Rodgers. 106 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 4: He led the second act of Brett Farv in two 107 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 4: thousand and seven when he was the MVP runner up. 108 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 4: Immediately when he took over with Dak played his best 109 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 4: football as well. I do think there's something to Will 110 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 4: Howard in a hey, he's on the roster, and we 111 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 4: liked him coming out, and I know for a fact 112 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 4: Mike liked him coming out as well. 113 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 2: Let's at least see what he's got here. 114 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 4: But I don't think calling anybody sitting back and what 115 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 4: if Aaron is now, if Aaron doesn't come back banging 116 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 4: seventeen games of Will Howard, it's not like that. They 117 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 4: obviously have not made a move for any of the 118 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 4: other quarterbacks who have been traded for or have signed elsewhere. 119 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,919 Speaker 4: It's a pretty short list at this point of Kirk 120 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 4: Cousins and Jimmy Garoppolo that are still out there on 121 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 4: the street that maybe can be a short term starter. 122 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 4: There's a lot of different moving parts here. I wouldn't 123 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 4: rule out anything, including drafting Ty Simpson. Having said that, 124 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 4: do I foresee that being the direction that they go. 125 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 4: I would lean no, not to Pittsburgh, but it's going 126 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 4: to be pen end part on how exactly his first 127 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 4: round falls and what Mike and Omar and Andy Widel 128 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 4: and their scouts ultimately come to the conclusion that ty 129 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 4: Simson can be in the NFL. 130 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 1: So two weeks ago, aj Brown to the ram rumors 131 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: and then the Puka story breaks and you're like, they 132 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: probably got heads up two weeks out. I said this 133 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: that they're buttoned up. McVeagh didn't tolerate it. McVay don't 134 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: won't tolerate egos like it's it's you know, he's everything's 135 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: on Matt Stafford timeline. Let's get Matt grown ups and 136 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: the Pookah stuff. This is about the third time he 137 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: stepped in it. Lawyers are going to protect him, but 138 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: I don't buy what they're saying. You know, first of all, 139 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: he's he'll have a market. It's you know, what did 140 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: you just make of it when you saw that story. 141 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: What was the first thing you thought? My first take 142 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: was mcveigh's got no time for this, he's too buttoned up. 143 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: What was your first thought? 144 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 4: Well, I would say this, you have a situation where Pooka, 145 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 4: over the last however many months, has put himself at 146 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 4: minimum into some disadvantageous situations. Without getting into the legal situation. Obviously, 147 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 4: you saw the statement from Pooka's attorney saying that they 148 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 4: were demands of multimillion dollars and that temporary restraining order 149 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 4: was requested, it was denied. 150 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 2: They'll have their side. 151 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 4: This will play out in terms of a potential civil 152 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 4: process here with Pooka Nakua. I don't think that that 153 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 4: has any I am very confident it has nothing to 154 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 4: do with AJ Brown. This is a situation that has 155 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 4: played out recently here with Pooka with AJ Brown. 156 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 2: This is still about Matthew Stafford. 157 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 4: You're right on that call it in terms of you're 158 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 4: trying to figure out how do we push this thing 159 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 4: across the finish line. Right now, you already traded a 160 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 4: first round pick for Trent McDuffie. I can see the 161 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 4: Rams still trading the first round pick for somebody, probably 162 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 4: not what they were offering for AJ Brown, but it 163 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 4: would have to be something significant for the Eagles to 164 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 4: consider doing it. I don't get the sense at this 165 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 4: point that anything is imminent or even in the works 166 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 4: with the Rams. Remember, if the Eagles were to trade 167 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 4: AJ Brown, this hasn't changed. If they trade them prior 168 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 4: to June first, there's a massive acceleration that takes place 169 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 4: because how the Eagles use void years and dead money 170 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 4: that would all hit the cap in twenty twenty six. 171 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 4: After June first, it becomes a lot easier to swallow 172 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 4: that pill. So something's going to happen with aj Brown 173 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 4: in all likely. It doesn't mean they can't do it. 174 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 4: It just would be a lot harsher to do it 175 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 4: now versus two three months down the road. But when 176 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 4: it comes to Puka, he's still one of the best 177 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 4: players in the entire NFL. He is still somebody who's 178 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 4: going to be in line for a big contract extension 179 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 4: at some point. I don't get the sense that the 180 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 4: Rams are really in much of a rush to do 181 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 4: something with Puka, But again I wouldn't directly connect that 182 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,959 Speaker 4: to any of the stuff that they've had to deal with. 183 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 2: With Pooka off the field. 184 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 4: For one thing, the Rams have been burned in the 185 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 4: past multiple times by doing early contract extensions and they 186 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 4: didn't work out. It happened with Todd Gurley, it happened 187 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 4: with Jared Goff where they had to eat cash and 188 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 4: cap and trade guys' negative assets like they did in 189 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 4: the Stafford trad where they shipped golf off to Detroit. Also, 190 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 4: Puoka he is under contract only for one more year, 191 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 4: but you've got multiple franchise tags on top of it. 192 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 2: They've got time. A big deal obviously got done. 193 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 4: It's a little apples to oranges with Jackson Smith and 194 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 4: Jigmi because he was a first rounder. 195 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 2: Puka was not. 196 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 4: It's March twenty fifth, we're not in contract extension territory. 197 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 4: It's pretty rare to do them this early in the offseason. 198 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 4: This is probably more so something we're going to be 199 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 4: talking about in June and July, potentially getting done with Puka, 200 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 4: and we'll see how some of these other things at 201 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 4: a league level, in a legal level, play out between 202 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 4: now and then. 203 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 1: Finally, the Vikings went and got Kyler Murray and you know, 204 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: well documented commitment issues, but some of that is a 205 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: lot of good people leave Arizona and can flourish. It's 206 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: a wonky organization. The bidwell, it's not a strong ownership group. 207 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 3: They're not. 208 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 1: And I've had friends who have played and been executives, 209 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,439 Speaker 1: and there's a lot of there's a lot of nonsense. 210 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:47,319 Speaker 3: And I look at the Kyler. 211 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: Murray thing, and I know he's small, but Kevin O'Connell, 212 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: those quarterbacks you know, we saw the Darnald turnaround. What 213 00:09:56,040 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: it tells me is if Kevin doesn't necessary believe for 214 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 1: seventeen games in JJ McCarthy, that's not great for JJ McCarthy. 215 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: I tend to be a believer in that. Actually Kyler 216 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: isn't getting paid, He's actually going to be a little 217 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: bit of a steal, maybe not a Sam Darnald hit. 218 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: Is the is your view in the view around the 219 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: league that we could get a little bit of a 220 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: Donald feel here where it's like, yeah, it was the organization, 221 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: it wasn't Kyler and they go eleven and six. 222 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,959 Speaker 3: Is there any vibe around the league on that there's. 223 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 2: Some of that? 224 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 4: I mean, we can not even in hindsight, but in 225 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 4: present sight, you could look at a quarterback and Kyler 226 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 4: Murray who you felt the need to insert a homework 227 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 4: clause into the contract and say, if you're feeling like 228 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 4: you have to do that, maybe don't give him a contract. 229 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 4: You are still paying him guaranteed money on this year 230 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 4: while he's playing for the Vikings for the minimum salary. 231 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 4: That's a side story. I would say this it's different 232 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 4: with Kyler coming in because we haven't seen Kyler in 233 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 4: this type of a system. Yes, you had some elements 234 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 4: of it with Drew pett there over the last several years. 235 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 4: But the way that Kevin O'Connell wants to run his offense, 236 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 4: we don't know what that fit is going to be. 237 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 4: What we know is this guy was the number one 238 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 4: overall pick back in twenty nineteen. He is one of 239 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 4: the rare elusive guys in the NFL. When he's fully healthy, 240 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 4: he does still have speed, he can still make people miss. 241 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 4: He's always had a big arm. Let's take a shot 242 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 4: on a guy who's only twenty eight years old, and maybe, 243 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 4: as you said, they strike gold on this, and then 244 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 4: all right, let's try to extend him and make him 245 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 4: the quarterback of the future. Now, Kyler got a no 246 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 4: tag con clause in that contract. I was the only 247 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 4: thing that was there for his agent, Eric Burkhart to negotiate. 248 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 4: Because that means if this goes the way that Kyler 249 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 4: wants it to, he plays well in twenty twenty six 250 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 4: and they can't tag him, they can't stop him. He 251 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 4: becomes the number one free agent in twenty twenty seven. 252 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 4: But we can't overlook this. This is a competitive situation, 253 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 4: whether hoping it's also going to elevate JJ McCarthy. And 254 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 4: I know that people might hear me say that and go, well, 255 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 4: that's what the team line is going to be. No, 256 00:11:56,080 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 4: I fully anticipate from a rep standpoint, from a competition standpoint, 257 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 4: they are going to put those two guys head to 258 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,439 Speaker 4: head through the entire offseason and see who comes out 259 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 4: on top. It's not as if JJ McCarthy has fallen 260 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 4: flat on his face every time he's taken the field. 261 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:12,559 Speaker 4: I was at the game in Detroit last year where 262 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 4: he'd been off for six weeks because of a high 263 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 4: ankle sprain. He didn't have to throw the ball a 264 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 4: ton in that game, but there is no way you 265 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 4: could walk out of that building and not say JJ 266 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 4: McCarthy can be an NFL quarterback. 267 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 2: But he had the hand. 268 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 4: The fracture that he was dealing with for a junk 269 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 4: of the season ended up ending this season. He had 270 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 4: the high ankle sprain, and he had the concussion the 271 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,439 Speaker 4: year before that. It was a meniscus surgery. He played 272 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 4: a lot of football in college. He had a high 273 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 4: degree of success in college. But in terms of who 274 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 4: JJ is in the NFL, i'd kind of put him 275 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 4: in the same bucket a little bit as an Anthony 276 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 4: Richardson er at Trey Lance, where we have no idea. 277 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 4: We know the guy's got talent, but when you're talking 278 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 4: about only having a small number. I think he started 279 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 4: seven games last season, it's hard to say, all right, 280 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 4: we're going to let him go in unopposed and be 281 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 4: the guy again. I haven't talked to JJ. I would 282 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 4: imagine JJ wasn't thrilled about Kyler coming in. But the 283 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 4: vikings are in his follower They're like, let's get a 284 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 4: couple of guys with a chip on their shoulder to 285 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 4: go fight it out. And as for the Carson Wentz resigning, 286 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 4: that doesn't bear on this really in any regard. I 287 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 4: expect Carson Wentz is going to be the clear QB 288 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 4: three going into the off season here. He doesn't need 289 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,439 Speaker 4: a ton of reps. He's played a ton of football. 290 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 4: You know exactly what he is. He's there, Colin because 291 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 4: the two years the Kevin O'Connell had his quarterback stay 292 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 4: healthy throughout the entire season, they went something like twenty 293 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 4: seven and nine. The other two years he started Jaron 294 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 4: Hall and Max Brozmer and traded for Josh Dobbs. That's 295 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 4: what you were left with at the quarterback position. They 296 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 4: want to have optionality. There's a scenario here where Kyler 297 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 4: wins the job and JJ's the two. There's a scenario 298 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 4: that JJ wins this job, he's the one, and then 299 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 4: you got to figure out do we keep Kyler as 300 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 4: the two? Does Kyler want to go someplace else? I 301 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 4: don't think if JJ gets beat out it even makes 302 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 4: sense to try to go someplace else, because no young 303 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 4: quarterback should want to get traded right before the season. 304 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 4: No reps, no familiar already, no rhythm and time, and 305 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 4: intepo would just get thrown out there in another spot. 306 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 4: That's how you end of guys career. JJ McCarthy's career 307 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 4: to a degree in the early stages, the Minnesota version 308 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 4: is on the line. Over these next several months, those 309 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:13,079 Speaker 4: two guys are gonna be duking it out. 310 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 2: It's gonna be one of the fun competitions all summer. 311 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: All right, Tom Pelasarrow, good stuff, NFL Network. Tom, we 312 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: appreciate you stopping by always calling. 313 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's uh. 314 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: I think it's got like a seventy five percent Sam 315 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: Donald feel to me. I think Donald's better, and a 316 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: lot of it's just She's bigger, stronger, has a better arm. 317 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 3: J Mack is not a Kyler Murray fan. Is well documented. 318 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: You know. 319 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd Weekdays 320 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 2: and Noone Easter Not a em Pacific on Fox Sports 321 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 2: Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio app. Hi, this is Jay. 322 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 5: I'm the producer of the pauly A Toni Fusco Show. 323 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 5: Usually in these promos they ask you to listen to 324 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 5: the show. I'm here to ask you please, don't listen 325 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 5: to the show. The hosts are two absolute morons who 326 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 5: have the dumbest takes on sports imaginicable. Don't listen to 327 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 5: the show so it can get Camp. 328 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 4: What the hell are you doing in our studio? 329 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 2: Get him, Paulie, Ignore that fool. 330 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 6: Listen to the Pauline Tony Fusco Show on the iHeartRadio 331 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 6: app or wherever you get your podcast. 332 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 2: He's still moving. 333 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:20,239 Speaker 3: J Mack with a news no, no turn on the news. 334 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 2: This is the Herdline News. 335 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 6: For the record, I was a Kyler Murray defender. Then 336 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 6: the homework clause and stuff came out. Remember I had 337 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 6: a source and Arizona told me some other stuff that 338 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 6: wasn't great on him, and I backed off. You are 339 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 6: the Kyler Murray guy. I like how we have your 340 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 6: guys and my guys. 341 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, Darnold's my guy. Kyler Murray's underrated. You like Purdy? 342 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: Who else do you like? Oh? 343 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts? You love Jalen? 344 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, Dylan Hurts season baby? All right, let's go to 345 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 6: the NBA. Colin, I don't think this guy is either 346 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 6: of our guys. Cam Cunningham, I'm sure you saw the news. 347 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 6: He's got a collapse lung. He's going to miss the 348 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 6: rest of the regular season. He will now land on 349 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 6: like sixty one games play code for he ain't eligible 350 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 6: for all NBA. This is a guy who was third 351 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 6: in the MVP voting MVP odds as recently as three 352 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 6: weeks ago. The league is ticked off. The Players Association 353 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:14,359 Speaker 6: put out a statement saying the rule must be abolished 354 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 6: or reformed. 355 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 7: To create an exemption for significant injuries. 356 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 6: So guys who are ineligible to be All NBA this season, 357 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 6: even if the numbers say it, Lebron Currie, Embiid and 358 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 6: guys who are close is Jokic, you can't miss eighteen games, 359 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 6: You'll catch if he has to miss two games with 360 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 6: an ingrown toenail or something. 361 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 7: A baseball player sneeze in their. 362 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 6: Backs out they got to miss a couple of games, 363 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 6: you'll catch you ineligible. I do think Colin, there is 364 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 6: something This rule is a little goofy, while at the 365 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 6: same time I will. 366 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 3: Believe they players are playing. 367 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: They implemented the rule because of load management and it 368 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: just so happens Kate Cunningham had a real injury. Yeah, 369 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: but rules are rules. Now you can again next year. 370 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: You can modify it. But I mean they they didn't. 371 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: It didn't just make it up and the play. They 372 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: did it because the players were taking too many days off. 373 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: So the players and their agents and their reps can 374 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:09,360 Speaker 1: complain about it. 375 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 3: You started it. The league didn't want to do this. 376 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: This was not something that Adam Silver just cooked up 377 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: at a barbecue with friends. He did this because of 378 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 1: the load management nonsense. So players and their agents and 379 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: their reps and NBA PA, it's on you. This had 380 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: to be implemented to stop all the tanking and the 381 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: avoiding playing. 382 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 6: Okay, so when people put down hard and fast rules, 383 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 6: you know you're as a father, you put down hard 384 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:38,479 Speaker 6: rules in the house, and then you have to create 385 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 6: some wiggle. 386 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 7: Room for unique situations and circumstances. 387 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 6: Don't you think that kind of sort of applies here again, 388 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 6: a guy like kid cutting him who was an MVP 389 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 6: top three guy. It was it was Joki, SGA and 390 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 6: Kate like three weeks ago, and now he's going to 391 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 6: get shut out of first team All NBA and everything. 392 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 7: You don't think there's a little something wrong with that? 393 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: Uh? And gear this it's almost like this. You want 394 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: to talk about kids and rules. Yeah, if my son 395 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 1: had broken curfew eight times and the new rule is 396 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 1: nine pm in bed, Oh, that's hard. We're gonna have 397 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: no wiggle room because you created you created the referendum. 398 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 6: But you say you, Kate Cunningham didn't do anything. It's 399 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 6: by it lord. 400 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:26,479 Speaker 1: But he's he's a he is a player in the 401 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 1: NBA and because a lot of star players of his talent, 402 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: you know, listen, there's always unintended consequences for rules. Somebody 403 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 1: always gets punished. I mean, a lot of rich people 404 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 1: are philanthropic, a lot of rich people are selfish, but 405 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: rich people get tax more, you know. So you're saying, like, well, 406 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 1: I'm philanthropic anyway, why are you taxing me more? You know, 407 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 1: because too many maybe rich people don't are, aren't philanthropic 408 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: or skirt the system. So the point is there's winners 409 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: and losers on all this stuff in all these leagues. 410 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: And you know, like I think one of the things 411 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: the NFL PA fought for was less practice time. I 412 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 1: think it's absolutely absolutely hurt offensive line play in the NFL, 413 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:18,360 Speaker 1: the one unit you need cohesion more than anything, and 414 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: there's fewer practices with pads, and therefore, I think offensive 415 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 1: line play starts really slowly, get a lot of quarterbacks 416 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 1: stinged up early. I think offensive line play in September 417 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 1: October can be awful. And I think a lot of 418 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 1: that's the you know, let's get rid of let's get 419 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: rid of some practice time and the hitting. There's always 420 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: unintended consequence. 421 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know. 422 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 6: It just it's a little disappointing, but I get it. 423 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 6: You know, players seem to be taking fewer nights off hill. 424 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 6: Austin Reeves, Lebron and Luca played on a back to 425 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 6: back last week, remember the game against the Rockets, and 426 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 6: then they had to go to my own. 427 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: My gosh, everybody thought they were going to say playing 428 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: basketball on back to back night it how heroic. Oh 429 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: my god, Austin Reeves back to back played basketball. You 430 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 1: go to the ymcaight six nights a week, and you're 431 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: an old guy. I don't have a lot of I 432 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 1: mean sorry, Oh my god. These guys the Lakers played 433 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: back to back games. You know, you're making forty million 434 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: a year. I think you can play basketball for forty 435 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: eight minutes. 436 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 6: They were wheels down in Miami at four am and 437 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 6: played that night. 438 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 7: Con have a heart, my friend. 439 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: All right, First of all, when you're in Miami, your 440 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: wheels down at four am all the time. 441 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 6: Oh he's got a lie for everything. All right, let's 442 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 6: move on to the NFL college this is. You know, 443 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 6: there are quarterback controversies. There aren't a ton of them 444 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,120 Speaker 6: in the league the last couple of years, but one 445 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 6: seems to be brewing in Atlanta. 446 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 3: Tua tongue. 447 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 7: We'll battle Michael Pennix for the starting job and to. 448 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 6: Us said, hey man, I'm ready to compete after playing 449 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 6: like crap last year. 450 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 8: My play wasn't up to the standard of the way 451 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 8: I've been playing football the past three years. Since since 452 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 8: the new contract. So just got to play better football. 453 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 8: That's that's what that really means. 454 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 2: There's no other way to sugarcoat that or go around that. 455 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 8: You just don't go from being a competitor. 456 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 2: To let me just relax a little bit. 457 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 8: I just don't think that how it works. 458 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:15,479 Speaker 3: You're either competitor or you're not. 459 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 8: And so I embraced the competition. 460 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 6: I like that unicorn raft in the background. He looks 461 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 6: like he's chilling into Miami. Maybe he's in Caribbean Island 462 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 6: like you. 463 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: You know what, I am strangely interested in because basically 464 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: Pennix is a bigger, stronger to I think it's a 465 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: really smart signing. I mean, I think they have very 466 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 1: similar games. Left handers, accurate throwers, throw a pretty football. 467 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: I think Penis is bigger, stronger, better power arm. But 468 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 1: I am I am really interested to see how this 469 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: plays out. 470 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 7: This is a fun one. I know. You know some 471 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 7: people are like, oh, Atlanta Falcons, who cares? 472 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 6: So remember when Pennix was coming out, I begged the 473 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 6: Dolphins to draft Penis because Tua had those those concussion issues. Well, 474 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 6: now Pennix gets an offensive coach he did not have 475 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 6: one before. Stefanski's an offensive guy. Tua's had an offensive coach. 476 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 6: My belief is Pennix wins the job and as a 477 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 6: monster year. But then again, you know me, I like 478 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 6: the Faucon I like to bet on them. 479 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 7: Yeah. I love Penix at Washington. 480 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the concerns about him are he's a 481 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: little stationary and he had injuries, and those are both 482 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,239 Speaker 1: totally fair, by the way. That's the knock on too, 483 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 1: a small stationary and had some injuries, so they're very 484 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: I mean, that's to me. Panix's comp was Tua the bigger. 485 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: He's a bigger to us. I think it's a smart 486 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 1: move by Atlanta, and now they have Stefanski. So I 487 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: don't know why this interests me so much, but this 488 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: is a really interesting quarterback. I think Panix wins it too. 489 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 7: That's a great battle. 490 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 6: We'll wrap up, Colin because the staff loves to throw 491 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 6: you some flowers because you know, they want to keep 492 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 6: the big guy happy. So one of your teams for 493 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 6: next year is the New York Giants. You love them, 494 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 6: You're all in. You're betting their win total. You probably 495 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 6: have them to go to the Super Bowl. Well, the 496 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 6: odds are out now for Coach of the Year, and 497 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 6: wouldn't you know it, but your guy John Harball plus 498 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 6: five hundred the leader, Jesse Minter somehow is second. 499 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 7: That is insane at plus eight hundred. 500 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 6: Robert Sada is third, like Kellen Moore, Joe Brady and 501 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 6: Mike McCarthy. Listen, I don't hate this bet. Obviously, you 502 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 6: don't want to tie up Big Bunny for what seven 503 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 6: months by betting this now. But Harball for sure is 504 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 6: going to have the Giants much better next year. 505 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, that Sala would be a decent bet. Kellen Moore. 506 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: Kellen Moore is interesting. 507 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 7: He was solid last year, better than I thought. I 508 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 7: kept banging on this. 509 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 1: Saying it was the Tylers shot the guy from Louisville 510 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: who's like forty eight years old. Yeah, is actually played 511 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: played pretty well. 512 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:47,719 Speaker 7: He was solid. 513 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 6: I mean, the Saints think they have a franchise guy. 514 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 6: Let's let's get more than half a set. 515 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 3: Who I would think coach of the year. 516 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 7: It ain't gonna be Joe Brady, we know that well. 517 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 7: McCarthy is interesting. 518 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: The problem with McCarthy is with Tomlin, you always won 519 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: double digit games and McCarthy's not winning fifteen. So the 520 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: truth is, what if they just you know, they win 521 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:09,360 Speaker 1: ten games. 522 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 6: Well, they win ten games of will Howard that that's 523 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 6: probably gonna win the award? 524 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 3: That probably does. 525 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're Do you think Aaron's playing No. 526 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 6: He's enjoying another darkness retreat. He's gonna ask you and 527 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 6: I to go on an aouasca. 528 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 7: Trip with him. 529 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: I'm not. 530 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 7: I'm not gonna might take him up on I'm not. 531 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 3: I don't like hard drugs. 532 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 7: Why not? That's a joke. 533 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 6: Obviously, need anybody coming after me on Live. 534 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 7: For that one. 535 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 3: Hard drugs, Yeah, I'm not. 536 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 7: Soft drugs are cool. 537 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:40,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah yeah. 538 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: J Maack with the news, Well that's the news, and 539 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: thanks for stopping by the herd Line News. We'll say, well, 540 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: ayahuasca is not a hard drug. You take it and 541 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 1: throw up. That doesn't feel like a red stripe with 542 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: some fish tacos to me. 543 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 3: I don't know. 544 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: You know, it's like when people talk about you know, 545 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: you ever watch thesemmercials and they got all these like 546 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: pharmaceuticals on commercials and when they get to the seventh qualifier, 547 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: you know like, oh you may have convulsions. I think 548 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 1: I'm just going to put a band aid on that 549 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 1: sore and not take a pill. 550 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 3: It's kind of my rule. 551 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: If you're if you're, if you're hurling things out of 552 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 1: your body from any end, I'm not taking the pill. 553 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: That's kind of my thing. 554 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 2: In Chicago, be sure to catch live editions of The 555 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 2: Herd weekdays and noon Easter not a im Pacific. 556 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 6: Saturday night, It's Baseball Night on Fox. 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I mean that would just ruin Ty Simpson. 567 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: I mean you just I mean, listen, there's two teams 568 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,439 Speaker 1: in this league that are just going to be not 569 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 1: only awful, but unwatchable Jets in Arizona. Then there's a 570 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: couple of teams that may not be great, but Cleveland's 571 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: going to be fun to watch because Shudter Sanders and 572 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: Miami's not going to be very good. But yeah, I 573 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 1: just I feel. I mean, Aaron Glenn does not know 574 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,719 Speaker 1: what he's doing. Can you can you imagine being a 575 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 1: defensive coach and the Jets did not have a single interception, 576 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 1: Like you do not know what you're doing. I always 577 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 1: say I judge a coach on his side of the ball. 578 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,919 Speaker 1: That's why I defend guys like Lincoln Riley. His offense 579 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: is number one in the country US. He's offense is unbelievable. 580 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: He knows offense. Now is he a culture creator? 581 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 3: I don't know. We'll see. 582 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: But here is the here's the draft order. Mendoza goes one. 583 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 1: Rvel Rees. The Jets will take a big swing, even 584 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 1: though rvil Rees doesn't really have a position yet. You know, 585 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 1: the Jets are low self esteem. You know they'll they'll 586 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: take a big swing. And you know, like most people 587 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: with low self esteem, their confidence is way higher than 588 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: their reality. So they'll we'll figure him out. We know 589 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 1: what we're doing. Arizona should take an offensive lineman, the 590 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: Miami guy that can go right tackle or interior Titans. 591 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 3: They could go a lot of different ways. 592 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: Give a young quarterback, a star running back Jeremiah Love, 593 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 1: I'd be okay, Carnell Tate, give him a star receiver. 594 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: Titans always feel like they're one or two wide receiver 595 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: shy Robert Solilake's defense. Maybe go Bailey, the edge rusher 596 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: who you know, he's a plug and play guy. I 597 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: don't think he has a great ceiling. Giants, they may 598 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,679 Speaker 1: go running back. I would go get the right tackle 599 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 1: from Utah. Cleveland needs a receiver. Carnel Tape makes a 600 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 1: ton of sense. Commanders need defense. You know, sunny styles. 601 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: You know Saints need a lot. Oh yeah, I mean 602 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 1: nobody's nobody's talking about this. What about Miami. I mean 603 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 1: Miami now got that defensive coach. But I mean Jeff 604 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 1: Haffley was in Green Bay and they had two really 605 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: good quarterbacks, so they got Well, they have Melik Willis. 606 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: I could see Miami trading now. Miami's got too many 607 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: draft picks. They're not trading down. They've got I think 608 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: they have four threes, so they've got Melik Willis. 609 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 610 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 1: In fact, if we had to make a bet right now, 611 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: if somebody that moved up, I think it's the Miami 612 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: Dolphins at eleven and hear me out, So the Dolphins 613 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: have two firsts, a second, four thirds. Do you think 614 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 1: it's worth if you're the Miami Dolphins and the Cleveland 615 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: Browns are sitting there at six? The need a wide receiver, 616 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: you'll let go of Jalen Waddle the Dolphins. Jeff Hafley's like, 617 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: I don't need four thirds? Would you trade a third 618 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: and a fourth to go get Carnele Tait at number six? 619 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: The clear number one in this draft? Because again the 620 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: Dolphins have so they have eleven picks and you say, 621 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: well they need to rebuild, Well, they got the quarterback right, 622 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: So what you want to do? I mean, do you 623 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 1: want to just spend all those picks on a bunch 624 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: of young kids around Malik Willis or do you want 625 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: to go out and be like I can see the 626 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: Dolphins getting the right tackle funnel from Utah or Carnel Tait. 627 00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: Let's get a legitimate tackle or a legitimate star receiver 628 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: that can grow with Malik Willis. That I could see 629 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: the danger of having eleven draft picks is you get 630 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: really young. Well, Malik Willis is really young, and Malik 631 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: Willis only has six starts. 632 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 3: You want to roll him out there with a bunch 633 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 3: of kids. I mean, you let go of Jalen Waddle. 634 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: You got to give him some Remember when Bryce Young 635 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: came in and they got rid of DJ Moore at 636 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: Carolina and he had nobody to throw to and they 637 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: went out and drafted t Mac And now he's become 638 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 1: a number one and Lagette the year before. But that 639 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 1: really stunted the growth to me at Bryce Young for 640 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 1: a year he had nobody to throw to in the 641 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: worst receiving room in the league. Well, now at Tyreek 642 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: Hill's gone, Jalen Wattle's gone. 643 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 3: You gotta give him something. 644 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, you can find receivers everywhere in the draft. Com 645 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 7: Let me go back to you bashing the Jets. 646 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 6: I do kind of love it because I feel like 647 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 6: it's personally you're taking jabs at me. You want to 648 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 6: just kind of wine man being honest. Yeah, Well, here's 649 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 6: the thing I just saw. According to Courtney Cronin, who 650 00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 6: covers the Bears for the Other Place, she said, there's 651 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 6: one GM at Alabama's pro day to watch Ty Simpson 652 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 6: and that's Chicago Bears GM Ryan Poles. Now that's according 653 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 6: to a reporter on site, one GM. What does that 654 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 6: tell you? GM has more clouts than the coaches. So 655 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 6: if one GM. 656 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 7: Is watching Ty Simsons throw at Alabama's pro day, that 657 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 7: tells me there is no interest in this guy. 658 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 2: None. 659 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 7: Now, maybe there's other GMS that she didn't see. But 660 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 7: one guy in why Chicago's GM there? What's he doing there? 661 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 7: Maybe he's looking at her offensive lineman or some other position. 662 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's looking at He's probably looking at me. 663 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 7: He's not looking at Ty Simpson. What does that tell you? 664 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 7: One GM there? 665 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: Bro Come on, Well, you know what it tells you. 666 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 1: That's a really good question. It tells you it's a 667 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: smoke screen. So t there's probably a couple teams that 668 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: think Ty Simpson because we know seven teams need a quarterback. 669 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: So what it tells you is the teams that remember, 670 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: fewer teams are going to combine Now, fewer teams are 671 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: going to the combine. 672 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 3: Pro Day is like combine light. 673 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 1: You're throwing to your own guys. It's weak. So what 674 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: it tells you, I'm Let's say I'm a GM and 675 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: I like Ty Simpson. I'm Pittsburgh. Well, do I really 676 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,479 Speaker 1: want to go to the Pro Day? Aaron's gonna hear 677 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 1: about it. Will Howard's like, what's going on? No, I Pittsburgh. 678 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: I got all the tape I want. I went to 679 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: the combine. He threw it the combine. My take is, 680 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 1: I'm a GM and I want this guy at twelve 681 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: or thirteen. I'm not letting anybody know I like him. 682 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 1: I don't want somebody jumping me and getting him, so 683 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: I don't think I think this says people like Ty Simpson. 684 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 1: There's a couple of teams that really like This is 685 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 1: too obvious. I think it says there's two teams that 686 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: like him, but they're not going to go near the 687 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: Pro Day because they don't want anybody to jump ahead 688 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 1: of them in the draft. 689 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 3: See how smart I am. J mack and All isn't 690 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 3: playing chess over here.