1 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, this is Ryan Howard and welcome to the 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: Philly Show. 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 2: Phillies drop their season opening series against the Rangers. They 4 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:16,639 Speaker 2: get no hit through four and two thirds innings on Saturday, 5 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 2: they get no hit through five innings on Sunday. Not 6 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 2: a good weekend for the Phillies. Not a good way 7 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 2: to start the season. And we kind of joked about 8 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 2: this guys the other day about season opening series, season 9 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 2: open opening day, at a massive overreaction that usually takes place. 10 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 2: We'll try to keep it tight today now to overreact 11 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 2: too much. Ruben Tomorrow Junior, Jim Salisbury, Todd's alucky. How's 12 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 2: everybody doing, guys, what'd you think of Let's just just 13 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 2: jump right in, of course, and talk about this weekend. 14 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:53,279 Speaker 2: Not a lot of offense, not a lot of offense, and. 15 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 3: The seemed like the the paying customers were a little 16 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 3: frustrated too at times. 17 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 2: On Sunday, Yep, they hurt. I definitely some booze. Bryce 18 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 2: Harper struck out swinging in the sixth inning, and and 19 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 2: that was I mean, it wasn't like crazy booze. It wasn't. 20 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 2: You know. I've heard worse, a lot worse over the 21 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 2: years of course, but you can hear him Bryce, Bryce 22 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 2: was getting booed on on Sunday. 23 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was not pretty. 24 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: The first three guys in the lineup really basically did nothing. 25 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: I mean, Bryce did get one big bass hit at 26 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: some point during the uh I guess the the the 27 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: the comeback innings on Saturday, got a broken bat base 28 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: hit that was big. Adults Garcia gotta got to hit 29 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: down the left field line that was big. But by 30 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: and large, I mean, the big three really didn't do 31 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: very much. Trade Turner had to you know, slow start 32 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: hasn't done a whole lot after the first after the 33 00:01:55,640 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: first game, and really not too much offensive punch at all. 34 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: Alec Bohm had a big home run in the first game, 35 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 1: but they just didn't you know, they're just not clicking 36 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: on all cylinders. And I made the point during the 37 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: course of the post game that the reality of it 38 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 1: is that in this day and age, and I used 39 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 1: to talk to Charlie Manuel about this all the time, 40 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: they don't get enough at bats during spring training to 41 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: really be ready. This is spring training and for the 42 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: next maybe week or so or ten days, it's going 43 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: to be spring training, and so you're not going to 44 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: have many guys who are in a ton of rhythm 45 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: other than the guys that got more at bats, and 46 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 1: not too many. 47 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 3: Guys got a lot of at bats. 48 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: There was a time when I used to play, and 49 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: when I was a GM and in the front office, 50 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: when you hoped to get the guys between sixty and 51 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: eighty played. It appearances that ain't happening. 52 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 2: No. 53 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 3: First of all, in the first. 54 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: Week of the spring of games, guys are getting like 55 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: tenant bats. It's I mean, that's that's you know, that's 56 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:11,679 Speaker 1: not enough. And they really played themselves into their rhythm. 57 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 1: And that's the reality. It's not just the Phillies, it's 58 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: pretty much every single team. And that's the way the er. 59 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 3: Rangers must have The Rangers must have got enough at bats. 60 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: I mean the Rangers swung the bats, Okay, they weren't 61 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: like crushing it. Yeah, and they you know, they made 62 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: they made good swings on some mistakes that the Phillies made, 63 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: because there were some mistakes made by Nola and and 64 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: Lozardo in the middle of the plate and they were 65 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: they were smoked. But it wasn't like they they crushed 66 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: the baseball over the place. Now Berger had a pretty 67 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: good series. You know, Corey Seeger swung the bat, okay, 68 00:03:56,440 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: Nimo did okay, But I mean nobody really dominated. 69 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 2: Well, it's funny you say that, Rubins. So justin Crawford 70 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 2: I think led the Phillies and plate appearances, he was 71 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 2: in the top five for sure. He had fifty five 72 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 2: plate appearances all spring. And then also to your point, 73 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 2: talking to Trey Turner after the game today, he was 74 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 2: basically saying like, hey, listen, everybody wants to get off 75 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 2: to good start. We didn't get off to good start. 76 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 2: We're gonna be fine. I do believe that they're gonna 77 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 2: be fine. It's three games, so it is what it is. 78 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 2: But he did add that, you know, hey, once you 79 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 2: get going in the season, once you start getting those 80 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 2: get into a rhythm every day, you start getting five 81 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 2: at bats every day, you know you're gonna start getting 82 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 2: into a b a little bit more of a groove offensively. 83 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 2: So he kind of, you know, address that point indirectly, 84 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 2: I guess, And you know, Trey actually had a terrible 85 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 2: spring training. He batted one thirty three. And I don't 86 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 2: know if you guys saw the postgame interview with what 87 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 2: Mac Gelp goes he didn't have to really have a 88 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 2: great spring. And Trey actually said, I'm happy about it 89 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 2: because the best spring I've ever had is the worst year, 90 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 2: the worst year I've ever had, I ever played, and 91 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 2: he was referring to twenty twenty three. Of course, he 92 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 2: batted four to seventy eight for the Phillies that spring, 93 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 2: had this awesome performance for Team USA in the World 94 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 2: Baseball Classic, and then it had one of the worst 95 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 2: years of his career. And then he added my best 96 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 2: my three best years. I think I was looking it 97 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 2: up in the spring. I probably hit two fifty And 98 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 2: he was right. You know, he batted uh, he batted 99 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 2: one seventy nine last spring, won the batting title. He 100 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 2: betted one seventy In the spring of twenty twenty one, 101 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 2: won a batting title, and he betted one eighty nine. 102 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 2: And twenty twenty the shortened spring training, and he batted 103 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 2: three thirty five that year. But it was funny, he says, 104 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 2: I think I was looking it up in spring training. 105 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 2: You know, when a player says I think I was 106 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 2: looking out a spring training, that means he looked it 107 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,039 Speaker 2: up in spring training and he knew for a fact 108 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 2: what those numbers were so so Turry looked it up 109 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 2: to make sure, Hey, am I gonna be all right? 110 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be alright. So he seems to think he's 111 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 2: gonna be alright. But yeah, so, I mean the offense. 112 00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 2: The offense definitely struggled. They as I mentioned, no hit 113 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 2: through four and two thirty niggs on Saturday, no hit 114 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 2: through five innings on Sunday. They had one hit going 115 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 2: with two outs in the ninth inning on Saturday and 116 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 2: somehow ended up tying that game, but a lot of Chase, well, 117 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 2: go ahead, Jim. 118 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 3: They ended up tying that game on a total freak show. 119 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 3: I mean Adallas Garcia swings at the first pitch and 120 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 3: pops it up and Jake Berger drops what should have 121 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 3: been a game ending pop up. I mean it went 122 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 3: and then it went from basically a horrible, horrible at 123 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 3: bat to a acceptable at that because he hits a 124 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 3: broken bat double to keep things going. But there were 125 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 3: actually for as bad as that at bat by Garcia 126 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 3: could have been, it turned out to be a good 127 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 3: at bat, and there were some good at bats in 128 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 3: that inning. Sosa drus the three to two walk, and 129 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 3: they had three bomb had one the three two strike hits. 130 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 3: But that was the only inning on Saturday they really 131 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 3: put together anything. I mean, you can't get no hit 132 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 3: for five innings and four and two thirds innings in 133 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 3: back to back days. If you need to sustain some 134 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 3: offense and get something going early that you just put 135 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 3: yourself in a situation where you're chasing all day and 136 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 3: have these you know, you try to have a mad 137 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 3: dash comeback at the end. That the only reason it 138 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 3: looked good is is because Jake Berger dropped that ball. 139 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally agree. 140 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 4: I mean, listen, they didn't swing the bats well at all. 141 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 4: They were fortunate to get back into that game at all. 142 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 4: And then McCutcheon ended up getting a couple of big 143 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 4: base hits, one on Saturday and a big home run 144 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 4: against Lozardo, so he swung the back pretty well. It's 145 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 4: nice to see him just because he's such a good guy. 146 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 4: You like to see him have success. 147 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: You don't want to see him necessarily have success against 148 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: the Phillies. But I mean, listen, they again, this isn't 149 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: much better team offensively than what we saw this weekend. 150 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: But you don't want to get into those situations where 151 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: you're trying to claw out of a you know, a deficit, 152 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: and you just put a lot of pressure on the 153 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: starting pitcher to have to make really good pitches all 154 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: the time if you don't get an early lead. They 155 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: get an early lead for Sanchez and they won the game. 156 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 1: They couldn't muster up near nary a hit for in 157 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: the next two days, and it puts the pressure on 158 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: the starting pitcher to to toss nothing but goose eggs 159 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: up there, and that's a tough thing to do. 160 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,079 Speaker 2: What did you guys think of Ottawa McCutcheon. 161 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 3: I was gonna say, McCutcheon still knows how to use 162 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 3: that bad head, doesn't he. 163 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, he can still get the barrel to the ball. 164 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, he lit up a couple of 165 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: mistakes some pitches did he get to One on a 166 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 1: very good Juan Doran fastball sinker and one on a 167 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: pretty good fastball from the zard of the missus spot. 168 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: But he got the barrel of the ball when he 169 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 1: needed to. And I think Todd, you were getting ready 170 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: to allude to the outfield played by the fight in Phills. 171 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 2: Yes, go ahead. 172 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: It was not pretty now, but I don't know that 173 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: either one of those fly balls to left field were catchable. 174 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,839 Speaker 1: The second one perhaps if you had somebody who was 175 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: a little fleeter of foot or had been has a 176 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: little bit more experience in the outfield. But part of 177 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: the experience is the reason why they ended up getting 178 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: extra runs, extra runners, extra men on extra bases, because 179 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: Otto Kemp really hasn't played a ton of outfield, and 180 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: he sort of has to know when to back off 181 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: the wall when the ball is going to get off 182 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: the wall, and the song is sort of chasing the 183 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: ball around out there in the outfield. So these are 184 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: things that they're going to have to fight through. And 185 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: if he's not, you know, able to do it offensively, 186 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: to pick up for some of maybe his shortcomings offensive defensively, Ah, 187 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: then you know, he may not be in in Philadelphia 188 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: too long because Brian Dela Crowsee is sitting down there 189 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: in Lee High Valley and he's a little bit more 190 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: accomplished in the outfield. 191 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 2: No doubt about that. So, uh, you know, and then 192 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 2: uh you Nola real quick? 193 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 3: Did you? 194 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 2: What do you guys think of Nola? On Saturday? That 195 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 2: was you know, going into the season, of course, going 196 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,199 Speaker 2: through spring training, of course that was a big focal 197 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 2: point for the Phillies. You know, if they could get 198 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 2: him right, how much of a difference that would make 199 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 2: in the rotation. I think it was what three runs 200 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 2: five innings, gave up a couple of home runs as 201 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 2: he's prone to do. What did you guys think of 202 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 2: his start? 203 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 3: I thought he was okay, not exceptional, Okay, he just 204 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 3: cannot get away with any mistakes. You know, he doubles 205 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 3: up on a breaking ball to Burger and the first 206 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 3: one was good. The second one was up and over 207 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 3: the plate, and Burger just hits it off the foul pole. 208 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 3: Gave up another home run. Seeger high fastball. You know 209 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 3: ninety two. 210 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 2: You're not going to. 211 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 3: Really get that buy a guy who's sitting dead red there, 212 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 3: so he cannot make mistakes over the plate. He has 213 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 3: to be very fine, and there were times in that 214 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 3: game where he was. He got a bunch of swinging 215 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:35,959 Speaker 3: misses through some good breaking balls. But you know, he 216 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 3: has to just carry that precision through the pretty much 217 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 3: the whole start if he's going to have if he's 218 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 3: going to get wins, and if the team is gonna 219 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 3: win behind him, because when he makes a mistake and 220 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,199 Speaker 3: his runs on base it's two or three runs and 221 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 3: those add up. 222 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: He definitely did not have the sharpness that he had 223 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: in a WBC and in the start that led up 224 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: to the WBC while he's pitching with the Phillies still 225 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 1: velocity was at ninety to ninety two. He was averaging 226 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: right around a ninety one mile hour fastball in the 227 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 1: games before that, and then in WBC got his fastball 228 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: into the ninety three ninety four range. Makes a huge difference, 229 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 1: and it also shows up in the sharpness of his 230 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: breaking ball when he has better arm speed. So a 231 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: little discouraging only because he went back to back games. Now, 232 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: the last game that he pitched in spring training and 233 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: this game he probably averaged between ninety and ninety one 234 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: with his fastball, and that's going to make it such that, 235 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: as Jim said, he's going to have to be perfect 236 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: with his stuff and he cannot miss the spots. Couldn't 237 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 1: get that sinker to come back over that front door 238 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: sinker that was working pretty well during the course of 239 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 1: most of the spring, that back door sinker on right 240 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 1: hander's front door toor lefties didn't couldn't get that going 241 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: and didn't really have the life on his fast fall 242 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: and his other stuff that he typically has. But we'll 243 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 1: see whether he is able to bounce back and create 244 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: some of that velocity and arm speed in his next 245 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:11,599 Speaker 1: few starts. 246 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 2: It wasn't a great night to pitch, at least we 247 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 2: know that it was. 248 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 1: It was, and he doesn't like to pitch in Nicole, 249 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: and I know that's not an excuse, but he didn't 250 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: have grip. He didn't have a real good grip on 251 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: his breaking ball, didn't allow the consistent bite that's through 252 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: some good ones. 253 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I looked like bytically does. I looked up all 254 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 2: the pitchers that threw on Saturday. I was just curious 255 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 2: as you because his velo was down, as you mentioned 256 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 2: Rubin and every pitcher that pitched on Saturday except one, 257 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 2: their velocity was down on Saturday. So I don't know, 258 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 2: you know, people talk about the weather and getting loose, 259 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 2: and Zach Wheeler's vilo wasn't you know where it was. 260 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 3: It's a thing. 261 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 2: It's a thing. 262 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: It's a thing. 263 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 2: I'm not saying that's why, but I just, you know, 264 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 2: I wanted to. I was looking at it. 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It's where 286 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 2: we pick the best Phillias player play performance of the 287 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 2: past week. 288 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: Can only be one. 289 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 2: Who you got it. 290 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,359 Speaker 1: Can only be one. It's gotta be Christopher Sanchez. 291 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 2: Christopher Sanchez was fantastic. 292 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: I mean, who else could it possibly be. 293 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:23,359 Speaker 2: Christopher Sanchez was fantastic. I mean, what a performance by him. 294 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 2: We talked a lot about him on Friday Show. I 295 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 2: mean that the the comments coming from the Rangers clubhouse 296 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 2: were glowing about Christopher Sanchez, calling him a bona fide superstar. 297 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 2: You know, we can see why you finished second friend, 298 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 2: Alsai Young all that stuff, I mean, what a what 299 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 2: a stud? What a stud? 300 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 3: No walks, power stuff, racks up a bunch of strikeouts, 301 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 3: just an amazing, amazing growth. And he's one of the 302 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 3: best baseball It's fun to watch him pitch. So he's 303 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 3: a hands down best of the week, hands down best. 304 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: I mean, it was historic. 305 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 4: No walks, ten strikeouts. 306 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: When was the last time that happened, Like nineteen twenty 307 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: or some crazy number. 308 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, Bob Gibson was one of those guys that did 309 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 2: that on opening day. Chris Short did that once on 310 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 2: Opening Day. A couple I think it was like a 311 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 2: couple other guys had done it that way back in 312 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 2: the day. Somebody probably with a crazy nickname, got that done. 313 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 2: You know, three Fit Mordecai, three fingers Brown or something 314 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 2: like that. That done. Somebody named crazy Legs or you 315 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 2: know the one armed man back in the hen zones. Yeah, 316 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 2: put thatones. Somebody like that probably had a game like 317 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 2: that at some point back way back. 318 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 3: In the day. 319 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 2: If I was going to give an honorable mention, maybe 320 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 2: Justin Crawford had a nice little weekend for himself for 321 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 2: his first weekend in the big league guys, first first 322 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 2: big league hit. He had two hits on opening Day. 323 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 2: He made that nice catch at the wall in the 324 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 2: third in at Monty's Angle on Saturday. I actually talked 325 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 2: pregame Sunday to Justin and Paco figure Row about that, 326 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 2: just because it's a tough that's a tough play. How 327 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 2: many times have we seen a new outfielder play in 328 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 2: this ballpark or visiting outfield and just screw it up, 329 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 2: screw it up big time, and that ball kicks to 330 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 2: the right, and then that JT. Real Muto's run around 331 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 2: the basses or Bryce Harper's run around the bases for 332 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 2: an inside the park home run. I wrote a little 333 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 2: bit about that my Phillies Beat newsletter coming out on Monday, 334 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 2: so check that out. But they kind of talked about 335 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 2: the prep, all the prep work that went into making 336 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 2: that catch, all the prep work that they did last 337 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 2: week on Tuesday and Wednesday, and kind of like what 338 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 2: they talked about, how they prepared for it, and it 339 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 2: kind of kind of paid off. So and then you know, 340 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 2: and then Justin broke up the no hitter on Sunday 341 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 2: with that swinging bun single third base. 342 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 3: Well, you didn't. 343 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 1: Understand what Josh Young was doing by picking up the baseball. 344 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: I don't really understand whether people even understand how to 345 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: play the game anymore. There's no way to get the guy. 346 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 1: It was before the base still, and I don't think 347 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 1: it would have gone foul. But the only way that 348 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 1: they they could have got luck out of that is 349 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: by just letting the ball go and see if it 350 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 1: trickled fault. 351 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 4: He picks it up on the move. 352 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: It was like, why didn't know Doleys Garcia have his 353 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 1: shades on. He had shades, but nobody uses flip downs. 354 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 1: I talked about this, He had shades on, but you 355 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 1: have flip downs. They don't wear. 356 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 3: Flip down with their bare hand. 357 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 1: That's the other thing, but or the glove. But my 358 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 1: thing is this, the flip down glasses are the only 359 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: You can call me old school idiot, you can call 360 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 1: me whatever. You want, But the flip down glasses are 361 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 1: the only ones that actually blocked the sun that you 362 00:18:55,920 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: can look into the sun and still distinguish where. 363 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 2: The ball is. 364 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 1: Those work. The other glasses, as much as you want 365 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 1: to think that they're working, I don't care what brand 366 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:09,479 Speaker 1: it is. 367 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 4: They don't work. 368 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 2: They don't do that. 369 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: They're not built or designed to do it. And I 370 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 1: don't understand why players don't use them. It's insane. I'd 371 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: be pissed off if I was, if I was a 372 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: pitcher balls. The Sun's been up there for ten billion years. 373 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of the last player to wear 374 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 2: flip downs. I was actually talking to Phil shared in 375 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 2: the Phillies clubhouse manager about this a few years ago, 376 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 2: about flip downs, and there's a company that still makes them, 377 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 2: and I think maybe Nolan Aernato wears the Gargoyle Gargoyle. 378 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 2: There you go, that's it. Gargoyle Gargoyle is the company. 379 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 1: Yes, I know, because I try to force some of 380 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: my Boston Red Sox outfielders and Mets guys to use them, 381 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: because it's the only Those are the only, and before 382 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: that there was it was a different company. I can't 383 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: remember the name of the company when I was playing 384 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 1: in the outfield. But nobody uses them. 385 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 4: It's insane. 386 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 2: You're right, nobody does use them. 387 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 3: I never see them. Yeah, I never see him. And 388 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 3: I saw them all the time way back when everybody 389 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 3: had him run out of your visor. You flipped them down. 390 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 3: But there's also other ways. Is what you angle your 391 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 3: body so you're looking away from the sun, or use 392 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 3: your bare hand and you bring it down and bring 393 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 3: it right down into your glove. Didn't even didn't even 394 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:30,199 Speaker 3: didn't even use it. 395 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: Is a drill that I actually used in Boston and 396 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: and with the Mets that I had a sun drill 397 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: just to do that. We used to fly balls into 398 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 1: the sun for the outfielder so that they can work 399 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 1: their bodies around the angle so that they could either 400 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 1: see the ball without getting the sun involved or use 401 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 1: their glove to block it. I'm not sure if that's done. 402 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if that's done, those drills are done. 403 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: I would assume Paco does do it. He's an outstanding outfield. 404 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: Go but you know, those plays have to be made 405 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:09,360 Speaker 1: and they're never considered errors, and they should be. They 406 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 1: gave errors to Burger because of the because of the 407 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:18,439 Speaker 1: balls that he dropped, and they were created by the wind. 408 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: So what's the difference. What is the difference? They're both 409 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:27,959 Speaker 1: done by the elements, by the God's elements, so they 410 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 1: should be errors. 411 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 3: But the pictures get food out of the deal. 412 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 2: The gods. The gods have smoked Scarcy. 413 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not I'm not trying to get he's 414 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: an outstanding outfield. Its phenomenal. But but in my estimation, 415 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,959 Speaker 1: those plays have to be made. And if they're not 416 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 1: made and it's because of the sun and it is an. 417 00:21:56,400 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 2: Error, you're right about that. You're right about that. All right, 418 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 2: So let's real quick before we move on. I want 419 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:09,439 Speaker 2: to mention if you're watching us on YouTube, hit the 420 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 2: subscribe button, please show support the show. And of course 421 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 2: go to the Phillieshowshop dot com to check out all 422 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 2: the swag. Look at all that great stuff, Look at 423 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 2: all that great stuff. Check it out. Go to the 424 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 2: Philly Showshop dot com. All right, we're back, we're back, 425 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 2: and let's wrap. Let's let's talk about the week ahead. 426 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 2: It's a big week. It's a big week. You've got 427 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 2: Andrew Painter making is mL debut on Tuesday. Very exciting 428 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 2: Phillies opened a three game series on Monday night against 429 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:52,199 Speaker 2: the Nationals. Jim, I found some pitching probables for you. 430 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 2: Left Hander Foster Griffin is pitching on Monday night against 431 00:22:56,480 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 2: Taiwan Walker. We got TBD against Andrew Painter on Tuesday, 432 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 2: and then Kay Cavali is going to pitch against Christopher 433 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 2: Sanchez on Wednesday. How do you have a tv D 434 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 2: in the fifth game of the season, Hey man, someone 435 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 2: you have a tv D in the fifth game of 436 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 2: the season. You know what I I will that is 437 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 2: something that I've. 438 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: Let there's an injury that's associated that. 439 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 2: That's something that is now way more common now. I 440 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 2: mean back in the back in the day, you'd have 441 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 2: the pitching problems, you know, several days out, and now 442 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 2: I feel like teams are just we're going to try 443 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 2: to We're gonna try to trick some I don't know 444 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 2: if they're trying to trick somebody or they're playing like 445 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 2: it's a really bad game of poker or what. But 446 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 2: so many teams hold back their starters now, does it. 447 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 1: They just have a crappy rotation? 448 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 2: Yes, I guess so. Yeah, I mean it's it's that 449 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 2: as well. I mean that's that's probably more likely, Rubin. 450 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 2: But I do notice that teams you're you're a day 451 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 2: out from a series, and it's like that they haven't 452 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 2: sent out their probables yet. This team hasn't sent out 453 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,360 Speaker 2: their probables yet. This is mid season, this is late 454 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,199 Speaker 2: in the season. This is early in the season. So, 455 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 2: but Andrew Painter is making his MLBA debut on Tuesday. Awesome, 456 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 2: It's going to be exciting. It's going to be exciting. 457 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 2: His high school pitching coach was at the game today 458 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 2: with his family. I talked to him for a little bit. 459 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 2: I wrote a story for MLB dot Com kind of 460 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 2: talk to a lot of his former coaches, managers, teammates 461 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 2: from high school all the way up through the Triple 462 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 2: A season last year. Talked a lot of scouts from 463 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:39,479 Speaker 2: the Phillies that watched them throughout high school, you know, 464 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 2: people in the in player development with the Phillies, just 465 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 2: kind of sharing their favorite stories. And I kind of 466 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 2: started every interview by saying, Hey, if Andrew Painter in 467 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 2: twenty years from now, Andrew Painter wins two, cy Young's 468 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 2: wins the World Series. You know he's a ten time 469 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 2: All Star. What's the story you're going to tell people about. 470 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 2: I caught Andrew Painter in high school. I caught Andrew 471 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 2: Painter in double A. I caught one start of his 472 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 2: and rookie ball or whatever the case may be. What's 473 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 2: the story you tell? And they told some cool, cool 474 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 2: little stories about about Andrew Painters. So if you have 475 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 2: checked that out at MLB dot com, that's that's a 476 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 2: great story. Thanks Jim. Thanks but it was. 477 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 3: It was a great story, like an oral stuff. 478 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 2: So yeah, that was why you're the cod pod. I 479 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 2: just do what I can, man, just do what I can. 480 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 2: But so, yeah, Painter on Tuesday. Zach Zach Wheeler is 481 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 2: going to make his second rehab start on Friday in Durham, 482 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 2: North Carolina. So everything seemed to be okay in Lehigh 483 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 2: Valley on Saturday for Zach Wheeler. So that's also And. 484 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 1: Would you think about what you saw from him on Saturday, Jim, 485 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 1: Zach Wheeler and Oryan. 486 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 3: Kirkery, Well, I was in Philadelphia and they were Lehigh Valley. 487 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 3: But everything heard was Wheeler was remains right on target 488 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 3: for maybe two or three more and get back here 489 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 3: and no red flags, looking healthy, popping it good, I 490 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 3: mean he pitched on a ridiculously cold day as well. 491 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 3: But I think he's going to be back here pretty soon. 492 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 3: And be Zach Wheeler again. 493 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: Kind of interesting that they both went out there with 494 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:29,959 Speaker 1: no sleeves, both Kirkering and Wheeler on that blustreet long 495 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 1: and well Noah did too. But I mean, it's kind 496 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: of crazy those guys. I guess they must feel. Talking 497 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 1: to some pitchers, they must feel some restriction when they 498 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: wear when they wear sleeves, So they went out there 499 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: in dealt. Kirking was really efficient. Ten pitches, seven strikes, 500 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 1: one two three inning. I think he got to punch out. 501 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: We used to split a couple of times. He's going 502 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 1: to go back to back I think, is it Tuesday 503 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: Wednesday or Wednesday? 504 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 2: Thursday Day? Wednesday, Tuesday Wednesday. 505 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: And then he likely will be activated when when the 506 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: team gets to Colorado. 507 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 2: I would think, yeah, I think, well, I yeah, San Francisco, Yeah, 508 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 2: maybe San Francisco. Yeah. I think that's when he's he's 509 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 2: eligible to be activated. But it's it's right around the corner, 510 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 2: right around the corner, especially because they want to get 511 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 2: that back to back in on Tuesday and Wednesday and 512 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 2: Rob Thompsons stead of course, He's like, listen, if he 513 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 2: throws a ton of pitches on Tuesday, maybe he doesn't 514 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 2: go back to back on Wednesday, and then we can 515 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,120 Speaker 2: maybe push the back to back to over the weekend 516 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 2: or or whatever the case may be. So keep an 517 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 2: eye on all of that Philly's bats. They they got to. 518 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,919 Speaker 1: Face the worst, maybe the worst staff in the history 519 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: of the game last year Colorado and and Washington Nationals. 520 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 2: Bad staffs. 521 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: Back to back. They should do some damage against both. 522 00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 3: They look at the number. 523 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 1: These numbers don't lie. 524 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 2: No, these numbers do not lie. Mackenzie Gore is not 525 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 2: on that National staff anymore. 526 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:09,880 Speaker 1: You ain't kidding. 527 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 2: Gosh, all right, guys, we'll be back later this week. 528 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 2: We'll talk about Andrew Painters MLB debut. 529 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 3: Oh, that'll be fun, all right, Smelling of boys, smiling Jim. 530 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 2: The Philly Show is brought to you by the Foul 531 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,919 Speaker 2: Territory Network. Subscribe to The Philly Show on YouTube and 532 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,640 Speaker 2: wherever you get your podcasts.