WEBVTT - BobbyCast Presents: Unsigned & Independent: S.2 Ep. 3: Zoee - How a Documentary Inspired an Australian Native to Move to Music City 0:00:10.240 --> 0:00:11.920 All right, Kevin, who is your guest this week? We 0:00:12.000 --> 0:00:16.160 have Zoe one name, yes, Zoe with two ease Zoe, Like, 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:18.080 I don't know who other one name artists the Donna 0:00:18.200 --> 0:00:21.560 share Tupac Drake, got anymore? 0:00:21.960 --> 0:00:24.040 Maybe Dirk's No, that dark's Bentley. 0:00:24.120 --> 0:00:27.360 No, okay, no, that's somebody who goes by their first name, like, 0:00:27.360 --> 0:00:29.960 it's not Tupac Johnson and we just call him Tubac. Okay, 0:00:30.000 --> 0:00:34.680 Riva still Reba McIntyre for the most party here, I'm done. 0:00:34.840 --> 0:00:36.440 So how did you find out about Zoe? 0:00:36.840 --> 0:00:37.040 Good? 0:00:37.040 --> 0:00:39.159 Old algorithm social media. 0:00:38.920 --> 0:00:41.360 Instagram came across her and then I was checking out 0:00:41.360 --> 0:00:44.199 her Instagram and she's from Australia and she seemed like 0:00:44.200 --> 0:00:46.000 a fun, happy girl. 0:00:46.040 --> 0:00:47.960 And I sound like Australia with Mars. 0:00:48.440 --> 0:00:49.680 But you'll never believe it. 0:00:49.800 --> 0:00:50.760 She's from Australia. 0:00:51.120 --> 0:00:52.000 It's so far though. 0:00:52.080 --> 0:00:54.240 Have you ever been there? I have not. I don't 0:00:54.240 --> 0:00:56.320 know why talking that voice, but still all right? 0:00:56.360 --> 0:00:58.480 Season two, Episode three of un Signed and Independent with 0:00:58.520 --> 0:01:00.880 Kevin O'Connell, who you may also know is kick off 0:01:00.920 --> 0:01:03.360 Kevin on twenty five Whistles and so as he said, 0:01:03.400 --> 0:01:05.479 she's from a whole other world called Australia. 0:01:06.080 --> 0:01:09.280 Her name is Zoe, and then you've seen her in person. 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:11.560 Yeah, I went and saw her at a local writer's round. 0:01:11.880 --> 0:01:14.959 Did you go see her after you saw her on 0:01:15.080 --> 0:01:17.000 social media and you thought about her for the show 0:01:17.120 --> 0:01:19.400 or did you just stumble across her after you'd randomly 0:01:19.400 --> 0:01:19.760 seen her? 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:20.000 No? 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:23.120 I found her on Instagram first, then reached out to 0:01:23.120 --> 0:01:24.480 her and said, hey, do you have any show. 0:01:24.280 --> 0:01:25.800 It's coming out. I'd like to meet you and see 0:01:25.800 --> 0:01:27.200 you before before we sit down and talk. 0:01:27.240 --> 0:01:29.520 So I'm with research man. Yeah, like a you. 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:32.920 Zoe moved to the UK from Australia and then Nashville 0:01:33.000 --> 0:01:35.480 last year. Kevin gets into that, and then it's about 0:01:35.560 --> 0:01:36.800 how long has she been here in time to say 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:38.840 a year? That's what you said that? Yeah, like a 0:01:38.920 --> 0:01:42.200 year as in this COVID count as No year's. 0:01:42.640 --> 0:01:45.200 No, like a year as in twenty twenty two. 0:01:45.360 --> 0:01:48.120 Okay, so I put is she good? That's awesome? That's 0:01:48.160 --> 0:01:48.800 all I needed to hear. 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:51.280 It's great, all right, unsigned it independent with Kevin O'Connell. 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:54.200 Here he is with Zoe, who to him is from 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:55.960 another galaxy. 0:01:56.000 --> 0:01:57.920 Apparently. All right, here you go, Thank you guys. 0:01:58.280 --> 0:02:03.000 This is my first international, I would say, guest, I've 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:05.360 had on the unsigned and independent. 0:02:05.440 --> 0:02:07.320 So I am very excited. 0:02:07.640 --> 0:02:11.160 I'm so honored, very thrilled, so honored. That is the 0:02:11.200 --> 0:02:13.480 big Yeah, thank you so much. 0:02:13.600 --> 0:02:14.280 It's a big deal. 0:02:14.360 --> 0:02:17.160 So wow, no pressure, no, no, no, none at all, 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:17.799 not at all. 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:20.000 And I'm sure our audience can already hear your accent, 0:02:20.040 --> 0:02:21.320 so let's just dive right into it. 0:02:21.360 --> 0:02:22.280 You are from. 0:02:22.960 --> 0:02:26.120 Yeah, So I'm from Tasmania, at the very very bottom 0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:26.679 of Australia. 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:28.080 It's the most southern state we have. 0:02:28.520 --> 0:02:32.320 The next stop is Antarctica, and I moved out here 0:02:32.400 --> 0:02:34.160 last year to chase music. 0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:38.240 And you know, this crazy dream of creating a ride. 0:02:38.320 --> 0:02:41.639 What is it like a girl from Australia Because forgive me, 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:44.919 as you know, we can sometimes be naive as Americans 0:02:44.919 --> 0:02:46.280 and just think the only thing that happens in the 0:02:46.280 --> 0:02:49.040 world happens here, right, And the only thing that happens 0:02:49.320 --> 0:02:51.960 does happen here? Yeah, in country music happens in Nashville. 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:56.840 So what does a girl from Australia think to herself, Like, 0:02:56.919 --> 0:02:59.080 how did you find out about Nashville? What made you 0:02:59.120 --> 0:03:01.640 think I want to move to Nashville? Where did that 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:02.160 come from? 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:02.520 All right. 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:04.480 So the first time I ever heard of Nashville, I 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:08.080 so quick little backstory before that. I grew up in 0:03:08.120 --> 0:03:11.120 the middle of nowhere. My family and I lived super isolated. 0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:13.760 We were about five six hours drive from the nearest city, 0:03:14.680 --> 0:03:17.080 and you know, like we lived off the land a 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:19.919 lot of times, and so it was a pretty amazing 0:03:20.080 --> 0:03:23.000 childhood getting to grow up like that. So we only had radio, 0:03:23.000 --> 0:03:24.920 we didn't have internet, we didn't have phone signal, we 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:28.360 didn't have like TV. So I grew up listening to 0:03:28.400 --> 0:03:29.799 a lot of records and a lot of tapes and 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:33.639 a lot of radio. So anytime i'd get a chance, 0:03:33.680 --> 0:03:36.400 and you know, from friends or whatever, I'd borrow DVDs 0:03:36.520 --> 0:03:39.920 or VHS's and watch documentaries on artists and stuff because 0:03:39.920 --> 0:03:42.560 I loved music. And so I remember we ended up 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:44.640 and I can't quite recall how we got a copy, 0:03:44.680 --> 0:03:46.840 but we got a copy of the Neil Young documentary 0:03:46.840 --> 0:03:48.920 here in Nashville when he was doing Heart of Gold. 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:50.920 And I watched that over and over and over, and 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:52.880 it was the first time I really heard about Nashville. 0:03:52.920 --> 0:03:55.280 And I was like, oh, my gosh, I want to 0:03:55.320 --> 0:03:55.640 be there. 0:03:55.880 --> 0:03:56.840 That's like the place. 0:03:57.120 --> 0:03:59.000 And I'd already fallen in love with music from a 0:03:59.080 --> 0:04:02.880 little kid. I grew up listening to everything from like 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:05.720 Merl Haggard to ac DC and everything in the middle. 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:09.080 And one of my favorite pastimes is, you know, listening 0:04:09.120 --> 0:04:11.200 to Rod Stewart, of all things, he was my lullaby 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:13.040 music is like a four year old kid, I'd put 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:14.560 on a cassette tape and fall asleep. 0:04:14.320 --> 0:04:18.120 To Rod Stewart. So music has always been a very big. 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:19.920 Part of my life. And so that was the first 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:22.040 time I really got to hear about Nashville. 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:25.359 And your family doing some research here talking before is 0:04:25.720 --> 0:04:27.960 you're all musicians? Is that correct? Or you just come 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:29.880 from a family that loves music in general? 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:30.720 Bose. 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:33.320 So, my dad plays guitar. He always had a guitar 0:04:33.400 --> 0:04:36.599 kicking around the house. My brothers all play other instruments 0:04:36.600 --> 0:04:39.280 as well. My mom she's like radio. She likes to 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:42.240 play radio. That's her that's her instrument. She's the first 0:04:42.240 --> 0:04:44.760 one to tell you, which is great. She does play 0:04:44.760 --> 0:04:47.039 bass as well, but she wouldn't tell you that. So 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:48.800 my dad always had a guitar around the house, and 0:04:48.839 --> 0:04:50.960 so he was like, I'm going to show you the 0:04:50.960 --> 0:04:53.160 first couple of chords, and so that was it, and 0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:54.599 he's like, I don't want to teach you anything more. 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:56.039 He said, I want you just to learn your own 0:04:56.040 --> 0:04:58.360 way of playing it, because I don't want to influence 0:04:58.400 --> 0:04:59.080 you with my style. 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:00.560 You could learn your way. 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:02.919 And so I was always extremely grateful to him for 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:04.839 that because it did allow me to have this, you know, 0:05:04.920 --> 0:05:05.479 unique sound. 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:06.840 And I started writing songs. 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:09.200 And I was about ten or twelve when I really 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:11.680 started kind of gravitating towards writing my own stuff. 0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:14.560 So, but yeah, it was a very very musical house. 0:05:14.600 --> 0:05:16.920 There was always music being played or Dad was I 0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:19.800 was out with a guitar playing something and around the campfire, 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:21.480 would always sit around and sing songs. 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:23.840 My grandparents were always extremely musical, and. 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:27.320 You know, so it was it was my grandma actually, 0:05:27.320 --> 0:05:29.360 she used to sing on our local radio stations down 0:05:29.400 --> 0:05:29.880 there as well. 0:05:29.960 --> 0:05:33.839 So wo yes, that's kind of like I've got a lot. 0:05:33.720 --> 0:05:36.400 Of music history in that sense, but I'm sort of 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:38.120 the first one to take it internationally. 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:40.719 What about your siblings, any siblings. 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:43.320 Yes, I have I have how many do I have? 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:47.279 Four siblings? Yeah, so two of them moved across the 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:50.080 world with me. My two younger brothers, my parents moved 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:52.240 with me and they all said, we want to help 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:53.640 you kind of chase your dream. 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:55.839 Basically, we're here to support you and do whatever we 0:05:55.880 --> 0:05:57.360 can to help you. And wow. 0:05:57.640 --> 0:06:01.640 Yeah, Like we literally left Astrat. They bought the dogs, 0:06:02.160 --> 0:06:03.520 you know, suitcase each. 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:05.800 And that was it and we left and we. 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:09.200 Moved to the UK six years ago. And we was 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:11.400 over there. You know, it was doing you know, pretty good, 0:06:11.560 --> 0:06:14.880 was playing shows and it was going real good until 0:06:14.960 --> 0:06:16.839 COVID hit and then it was like, eh, you know 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:20.400 how all that went. But yeah, so the family's just 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:22.400 been the most incredible support all the way through with 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:22.760 all of it. 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:25.520 And they're here now. Actually they're they're with me, which 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:26.560 is the best. 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:29.800 So they're living in Nashville with you. Yeah, currently, And 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:31.640 you guys all moved here at the same time. Yeah, 0:06:31.800 --> 0:06:34.279 did you ever come here before you all moved here? 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:37.400 Or is it like I just seen it on documentaries 0:06:37.640 --> 0:06:39.280 and I heard about it and it's gotta be real. 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:40.400 It's like people go to Hollywood. 0:06:40.440 --> 0:06:41.279 That's so funny, you know. 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:43.720 Yes, So we had been back and forth a couple 0:06:43.720 --> 0:06:45.719 of times beforehand. I first, when I. 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:48.400 First came to Nashville, I came with the ukulele, and 0:06:48.440 --> 0:06:51.280 the only gig I could get was out at Bobby's 0:06:51.320 --> 0:06:52.880 Idol Hour and it. 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:53.760 Was before they moved. 0:06:53.800 --> 0:06:55.719 So it was like I walked in there and I 0:06:55.720 --> 0:06:57.520 swear it was like walking into a christ Fist office 0:06:57.520 --> 0:06:59.520 and song. It was like there's money on the walls 0:06:59.560 --> 0:07:02.559 and there's like cigarette smoke everywhere and the floors are sticky, 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:05.240 and I'm like, man, this is what I want, you know, 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:07.000 this is this is where I need to be. I 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:08.600 walked in there, I was so nervous, So I had 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:10.840 my leakal ali and I played like three songs and 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:12.320 then there's like six people. 0:07:12.120 --> 0:07:14.280 In the audience and I'm like, I got this. 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:17.080 That was your first. 0:07:16.840 --> 0:07:19.520 Gig, That's my first gig, Yeah, full gig ever actually 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:20.480 outside of family. 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:21.240 But yeah, it was. 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:24.240 It was the best and I was hooked, and so yeah, 0:07:24.240 --> 0:07:25.960 we're doing back and forth a few times after that. 0:07:26.280 --> 0:07:29.560 Got to play CMA Festival in twenty nineteen, which was awesome, 0:07:29.640 --> 0:07:31.800 just poor COVID and all that craziness happened. And then 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:34.520 after all that, got my visor and then moved here 0:07:34.640 --> 0:07:35.080 last year. 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:36.640 Wow, So what is that like? 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:39.400 Surviving the times through COVID We're tough for a lot 0:07:39.440 --> 0:07:42.360 of people, and people that are already established, and then 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:44.960 I can't even imagine people who you know, don't have 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:48.200 the backing of a huge label or management to make 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:49.920 sure they can get through a year or two without 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:52.360 maybe getting paid or getting gigs. And what was that 0:07:52.400 --> 0:07:55.320 struggle like for you, especially coming from overseas. 0:07:55.560 --> 0:07:57.400 Yeah, it was. It was a tough run. 0:07:57.440 --> 0:08:01.080 Like I had shows, I had a tour actually booked 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:03.600 out through Europe for that whole year too, and then 0:08:03.680 --> 0:08:06.600 more shows back here in the US, and everything got canceled, 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:09.200 you know, And it was of course, you're doing, as 0:08:09.200 --> 0:08:10.520 you say, being an independent artist. 0:08:10.720 --> 0:08:12.640 You're doing everything yourself, whereas once. 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:14.120 Upon a time you would have a label with a 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:16.680 booking agent, you know, organizing this stuff for you or 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:20.280 taking care of your marketing or taking care of everything. 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:21.720 You know, you're organizing or going out on the road. 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:22.480 There's a lot. 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:24.920 Of, you know, stuff that goes into it, and so 0:08:25.040 --> 0:08:27.440 to have that just kind of fall apart was devastating. 0:08:27.440 --> 0:08:28.920 So that was, you know, it was a really tough 0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:29.680 time for me too. 0:08:29.720 --> 0:08:32.160 I kind of I kind of went inward and thought, 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:33.480 all right, now, what are we going to do? 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:33.720 You know. 0:08:33.800 --> 0:08:36.000 And there was a few times too in the midst 0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:37.920 of all that, and I know a lot of artists 0:08:38.000 --> 0:08:40.280 went through the same thing. It was like should we 0:08:40.280 --> 0:08:42.920 give up? Do we stop? Like what's going to happen? 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:44.520 We don't know where this is going to go? Can 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:46.520 we even go back on the road anymore? Can we 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:47.280 release music? 0:08:47.320 --> 0:08:47.600 Can we? 0:08:48.240 --> 0:08:50.240 So it was a really tough, challenging time. So I 0:08:50.320 --> 0:08:50.920 ended up. 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:55.800 Falling onto songwriting and I started writing with everybody I could, 0:08:55.960 --> 0:08:58.320 but a lot of writers here in Nashville too. Everyone 0:08:58.400 --> 0:09:01.600 started writing on Zoom, which was really great. So I 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:04.160 got to meet lots of people and lots of writers 0:09:04.200 --> 0:09:06.560 here and kind of it really opened a lot of 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:09.760 doors for me that I didn't expect to open. So 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:11.280 there's a lot of good things that came from a 0:09:11.280 --> 0:09:13.040 lot of things that also. 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:15.680 Wasn't crect right right, a little ups and downs. Yeah, 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:17.640 And you think your family support throughout the whole thing, 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:20.520 from the beginning till now and even obviously moving forward, 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:24.200 has been a huge upbringing for you and a big 0:09:24.240 --> 0:09:24.960 backbone for you. 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:27.000 I should say I could not do it without them, 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:30.160 like just emotionally having their support behind the back of me, 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:31.559 Like they've been because. 0:09:31.360 --> 0:09:33.920 It's a lot of work and it's a lot of energy. 0:09:33.960 --> 0:09:36.280 And you know, if you haven't got somebody or anybody 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:38.839 behind you that really believe in you, it's very easy 0:09:38.880 --> 0:09:41.480 to just feel like you're overwhelmed by it because there's 0:09:41.520 --> 0:09:43.400 so much you're doing. You haven't got as we said 0:09:43.400 --> 0:09:45.880 about a label, you haven't got that support. So you 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:48.520 need people that really genuinely believe in you. And do 0:09:48.559 --> 0:09:51.360 you know the family too, more than anything. They know 0:09:51.520 --> 0:09:53.960 me from a little kid, so they know all of 0:09:54.000 --> 0:09:56.440 my quirks and my You know, you need to rest, 0:09:56.480 --> 0:09:57.880 you need to take some time, or you need to 0:09:57.880 --> 0:09:58.120 do this. 0:09:58.200 --> 0:09:59.760 You're not working hard enough or you should be. 0:09:59.880 --> 0:10:01.880 Know they just know you and they love you when 0:10:01.880 --> 0:10:03.960 they care about you, and that you can't buy that. 0:10:04.360 --> 0:10:06.400 Have you had a chance yet or a time I 0:10:06.400 --> 0:10:09.080 should say where you were thinking I don't think I 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:09.560 should do this. 0:10:09.600 --> 0:10:10.920 You kind of touched on a little bit. 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:13.439 And then did you ever go to your family, parents, friends, 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:14.640 whoever and say you, guys, I don't know if I 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:17.160 should do this and they're like, hey, no, I can't kick. 0:10:17.080 --> 0:10:18.800 You in the butt and say no, that's not happening. 0:10:18.840 --> 0:10:19.600 You're gonna keep doing. 0:10:19.760 --> 0:10:21.720 COVID was kind of that moment for me in a 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:23.640 lot of ways too. It's like, come on, this is 0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:26.360 gonna be all right. Just you're e a reacting, Zay, 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:28.280 It's gonna be okay, We'll figure it out. You know, 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:30.319 there's other ways to make music, and I you know, 0:10:30.360 --> 0:10:32.800 I remember Mum saying that to me vividly. Actually, She's like, 0:10:33.040 --> 0:10:34.720 you know, maybe this's TV and stuff. You know, there's 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:36.320 all the ways to do it that you just you know, 0:10:36.400 --> 0:10:38.240 you need to think about. And so that was when 0:10:38.240 --> 0:10:39.760 I was kind of like, all right, you know, let's 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:42.080 focus on the songwriting and building better songs and writing 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:43.800 with better artists and writers and stuff. 0:10:43.800 --> 0:10:46.360 So yeah, and you need that. You need people to 0:10:46.400 --> 0:10:47.560 be around you that can be honest. 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:53.559 Do you feel like you've come out the other end 0:10:54.400 --> 0:10:57.480 post COVID as a better songwriter artist? 0:10:58.280 --> 0:11:02.760 I have said generally, I really I think so. Yeah. 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:06.240 You know, Ben in Nashville is like the biggest education 0:11:06.320 --> 0:11:07.880 you could ever ask for, too, because you come to 0:11:07.920 --> 0:11:09.640 this town and we were just talking about it a 0:11:09.640 --> 0:11:11.680 little bit off air just as it was getting started there. 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:13.800 It's like, you come to this town and you think, oh, 0:11:13.840 --> 0:11:15.480 you know, I've got the goods, but then you come 0:11:15.480 --> 0:11:18.800 to this town and it's like everybody is so talented, 0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:20.880 you know, it's like, oh my gosh, you know. 0:11:21.440 --> 0:11:23.559 So yeah. I do think though, it has made me 0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:24.800 a lot better than that I was. 0:11:24.840 --> 0:11:27.200 And I'm really grateful for everybody who's written with me 0:11:27.280 --> 0:11:29.520 and you know, believed in what I'm doing. That's the 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:31.600 other thing about since I've been here in Nashville. It's 0:11:32.760 --> 0:11:35.160 kind of overwhelming in a beautiful way. How many people 0:11:35.160 --> 0:11:37.760 have just said you're welcome here, will help you, we 0:11:37.800 --> 0:11:40.280 support you, We think what you're doing is worthwhile putting 0:11:40.280 --> 0:11:41.840 our time into, and we're going to write with you, 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:42.880 and we're going to do this, and we're going to 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:45.320 do that. And that's such a huge compliment because you 0:11:45.360 --> 0:11:48.920 just don't expect anyone to do that just for the 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:49.720 sake of it, you know. 0:11:49.800 --> 0:11:50.439 And if they do. 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:52.520 I don't know about your background necessarily growing up, but 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:55.040 me from California, I've talked about this a little bit before. 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:58.240 You almost wonder, Okay, well what do you want from me? 0:11:58.320 --> 0:12:00.200 If somebody asks like, hey, can you help me out 0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:02.840 or something? But out here in Nashville, I can't harp 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:04.760 on this enough. I've told so many people that, especially 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:07.600 back home. I'm like, everyone like genuinely just wants to 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:10.440 help you, and are it's weird. I love that, and 0:12:10.480 --> 0:12:11.800 it takes a while to get used to. I don't 0:12:11.800 --> 0:12:13.520 know if I'm I'm almost two years in and I 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:14.920 still don't know if I'm used to it. 0:12:15.240 --> 0:12:17.040 I love that, You're like, people just want to help you. 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:19.040 They want to get you to get whether it's music 0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:22.000 or radio or construction, it really doesn't matter. 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:22.920 Yeah, that's so true. 0:12:22.960 --> 0:12:24.840 They just want to see you succeed in whatever you do. 0:12:24.920 --> 0:12:27.400 And there's just so much opportunity out here in every 0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:31.240 field and every profession. And I got that, and it 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:34.640 seemed like you also have the support and outside of 0:12:34.640 --> 0:12:36.840 your family, just from people in Nashville, it's been. 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:38.640 Yeah, as you say, it's like you do you kind 0:12:38.640 --> 0:12:39.439 of think, oh man. 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:42.360 This is this weird? The only one of feeling this. 0:12:42.840 --> 0:12:46.679 It is though that and I think us Australians too, 0:12:46.720 --> 0:12:49.120 we're kind of very much like that. We're like one 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:51.560 hand washes the other kind of it's probably not a 0:12:51.559 --> 0:12:53.840 good analogy, but it is. Everyone helps each other and 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:55.360 if you, you know, if you don't help someone else, 0:12:55.360 --> 0:12:57.200 they're not going to help you, and everyone climbs together. 0:12:57.640 --> 0:13:00.199 And I love that Nashville has that mentality because that's 0:13:00.200 --> 0:13:01.280 how I was raised. 0:13:01.320 --> 0:13:04.000 I was brought up that way. So it is really 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:06.000 really notice signed this to some friends the other night too. 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:07.720 It's like, for the first time ever in my life, 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:09.320 I feel like I'm home in a lot. 0:13:09.160 --> 0:13:12.200 Of ways because everyone here believes the same thing and 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:15.319 want to have the same kind of creative outlook on life. 0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:17.520 And it's just, you know, this is a like minded 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:19.120 sense here and I love being around that. 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:20.920 I totally agree. 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:23.199 I feel like I've only been here a couple of 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:25.120 years that I feel like I've been here for my 0:13:25.160 --> 0:13:27.120 whole life. Yeah, well, in a great way, in a 0:13:27.160 --> 0:13:29.280 good way, I've always felt welcome. People are from all 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:31.520 over the place, and whether it's a different country or 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:34.319 a different state, and you're all like minded where you're 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:36.520 just like, man, I don't know, life is just too short. 0:13:36.600 --> 0:13:38.000 Let's just help each other out and like, let's have 0:13:38.040 --> 0:13:39.480 some fune while we're doing it, you know. Yeah, And 0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:41.080 that's what I just feel like natural is like. And 0:13:41.080 --> 0:13:42.880 that's why I tell people all the time, like, the 0:13:42.880 --> 0:13:45.000 best decision I've ever made is a movie here for 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:45.760 multiple reasons. 0:13:45.800 --> 0:13:48.400 But this isn't about me anyway. 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:50.400 I know exactly what you're Yeah, good. 0:13:50.360 --> 0:13:52.280 And speaking of help outside of the family, and some 0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:55.920 musicians and in particular or songwriters who are some of 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:58.000 your biggest influences out here? I know right here we 0:13:58.040 --> 0:14:00.720 have James House and I saw you guys at the 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:03.719 listening room a few weeks ago with Jeff Cohen as well. 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:04.560 And Jamie Floyd. 0:14:04.720 --> 0:14:08.680 Yes, yes, and you guys were awesome. So are those 0:14:08.760 --> 0:14:14.439 three influential like in your career or is it a yah? 0:14:14.520 --> 0:14:14.679 Yeah. 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:16.719 So that's the thing that you know, we were just 0:14:16.800 --> 0:14:19.760 saying about Nashville opening their doors. Like I've been able 0:14:19.800 --> 0:14:23.240 to work with people who I have idolized or loved 0:14:23.240 --> 0:14:25.480 their work forever, you know, and they've just said, yeah, 0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:30.200 let's do something. Jamie Floyd, Jeff Cohen, James House, all 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:32.840 these incredible rights, Phil Barton, I've just this new song 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:35.680 that I've just done with him, and Dana Purdue and 0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:38.960 all these people have just been so incredibly welcoming. Of course, 0:14:39.000 --> 0:14:41.080 there was Kyle Jacobs. 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:43.520 Who I was writing with him and he was you 0:14:43.560 --> 0:14:43.880 know what. 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:49.480 Happened obviously, Yeah, absolutely, And so but you know he was. 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:51.560 He was a huge support as well, and just like 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:53.560 we can do this, anything we need to do, let's 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:57.120 do it. And it's like everybody has been so welcoming. 0:14:57.160 --> 0:14:59.000 So all of those writers that I've been working with 0:14:59.040 --> 0:15:01.920 are people who I have I've been huge fans of 0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:03.760 forever and it's. 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:05.640 Just an honor to have like the opportunity to work 0:15:05.640 --> 0:15:07.640 with them and they want to work with me. It's like, 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:12.920 really sure you sure? Yeah, it's really lovely, It's awesome. 0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:14.880 James, do you mind just bring on for a quick 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:16.880 second and ask you a quick question here about Zoe. 0:15:17.840 --> 0:15:21.040 I'd like to welcome James House if you want to give. 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:22.440 All James this line producer here. 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:23.600