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Speaker 1: Hi am Kate Hudson, and my name is Oliver Hudson.

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Speaker 1: We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationships.

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Speaker 2: And what it's like to be siblings. We are sibling.

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Speaker 3: Railval No, no, sibling. You don't do that with your mouth, revelry.

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Speaker 1: That's good, ollie. I were doing our intro right now.

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Speaker 1: I'm very excited to talk to rom.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you know him by the way.

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Speaker 1: You know I've met him. Yeah, I don't know him.

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Speaker 1: I know his bro I know arieh you know, because

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Speaker 1: Ari was and Pat Patrick was my agent for a

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Speaker 1: while for a long time. So I know Ari pretty

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Speaker 1: well and he's best he's with my bestie all that stuff,

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Speaker 1: you know. But but but uh, but I don't. I

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Speaker 1: don't know rom As very well. But what I do

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Speaker 1: when I hear his name, is I hear Deepak Chopra

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Speaker 1: doing the the chakra meditation with me. When you do,

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Speaker 1: he does a chakra and he goes Rom and Rom

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Speaker 1: I believe, I think is the one of maybe the.

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Speaker 2: Root chakra is it is that? I don't know?

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Speaker 4: Ye chakra? Sound is?

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Speaker 2: What does it mean? Okay? Okay?

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Speaker 1: Associated the element of sound? No?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 1: Well, okay, okay, meanwhile I speak. Okay, so chakra sound M.

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Speaker 2: I didn't get into the chakras, but I've got some

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Speaker 2: interesting information. So I d M.

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Speaker 1: This the guy who did you know Nims Nims die?

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Speaker 1: He did the Seven Peaks that documentary where you like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know, trying to get me to climb Everest.

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Speaker 2: Oh Jesus, forget about it. I told him.

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Speaker 1: I was like, it'll it'll never happen. But I love

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Speaker 1: He's my d M buddy. He's like, he's like hey,

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Speaker 1: He's like, hey, do you want to climb Everest? Like

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Speaker 1: if you dream, we can do it. We can make

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Speaker 1: this possible. I'm like, absolutely not. But we have a

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Speaker 1: really funny d M relationship and he's he's a really

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Speaker 1: nice guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah he's cool, crazy cool. But maybe I.

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Speaker 1: Could do another peak, like you know, something less crazy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, maybe you know, like you imagine.

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Speaker 1: No, No, I'd make it to like the literally the

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Speaker 1: first base camp.

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Speaker 2: I'd be like, this is great, right, yea. Even even

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Speaker 2: getting to the first camp is snarl.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's so funny.

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Speaker 2: I love I love it. Okay, So Ram Emmanuel very

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Speaker 2: excited to talk to him, going over his sort of bio.

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Speaker 2: We're pretty connected. I'm going to talk to him about

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Speaker 2: fly fishing. He's a big worker outer, which I am too. Now,

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, yeah, I pump and he's an extremely

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Speaker 2: interesting guy. I watch him on the news all the time.

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Speaker 2: We're not going to get deep into politics, but it's

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Speaker 2: hard not to scratch the surface anyway, especially given the

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Speaker 2: landscape of what we are doing. Yeah, you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean, But.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what landscape you're talking about.

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Speaker 2: It's the landscape in my mind.

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Speaker 1: Oh, politics, Ram is the solar plexus chakra. I'm really yes, Let's.

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Speaker 2: Let's see if he knows this. I want to.

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Speaker 1: I want to, Yeah, but I am excited to talk

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Speaker 1: to him.

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Speaker 2: Let's bring him in. Let's talk about his chakras.

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Speaker 1: Okay, hey me, rum Oh, it's nice to see you.

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Speaker 1: Nice to see you guys coming to pod.

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Speaker 2: Have you and Kate met through your brother?

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Speaker 1: No, I don't think so. I was thinking maybe it's

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Speaker 1: something maybe, but I don't think so.

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Speaker 4: I know so I would No, we have not.

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Speaker 1: Well, nice to meet you.

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Speaker 4: Nice to meet you, guys.

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Speaker 1: I have a long history with your brother.

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Speaker 4: Nobody punished with two emmanuals, let alone three.

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Speaker 1: I can't imagine. I'd actually like to be a fly

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Speaker 1: on the wall when you guys all get together.

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Speaker 4: But you will forget a word in edgews I imagine.

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Speaker 2: Is it like that? No?

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Speaker 4: Well, I bet that's the same thing for your family.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 1: I wonder who talks.

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Speaker 2: The most in our family or the moms or the emmanuels, And.

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Speaker 4: I can tell you who talks the most in ours.

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Speaker 1: So definitely Ari.

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Speaker 4: No, No, Zeke talks about things he knows nothing about. Okay, y, are.

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Speaker 1: You three brothers? And no, that's it, it's just three boys.

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Speaker 4: Well no, the short answer is three brothers. Okay, twelve thirteen,

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Speaker 4: fourteen years later, Mom and Dad adopt your ear. She's

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Speaker 4: so it's kind of it's like as so we protect her.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So growing up though, you guys were really super

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Speaker 1: like a tight And how many years apart are you? Guys?

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Speaker 4: Ari and I are sixteen months to the day.

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Speaker 2: Wow?

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Speaker 4: Okay November twenty ninth March twenty ninth. Zeke is older

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Speaker 4: than me by twenty one months.

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Speaker 1: So basically, Mom just she went for it. She like

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Speaker 1: spit you guys all out go to dad Hey two.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Dad had a really good

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Speaker 1: Did you guys fight all the time?

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Speaker 4: Well, not all the time. Zeke gets his own bedroom

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Speaker 4: as he's the eldest boy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Ari and I shared a room together growing up right now,

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Speaker 4: when we were very young. There's an infamous story of this.

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Speaker 4: Zeke and I have a bunk bed. This is when

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Speaker 4: we're living in the city. Ari has is the crib.

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Speaker 4: Next to the bunk bed. Zeke and I used to

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Speaker 4: jump from the top bunk into the crib to see

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Speaker 4: how high the baby would bounce.

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Speaker 1: That's what I imagine three boys so close in age

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Speaker 1: would be doing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, it does explain why I Aria

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Speaker 4: started walking at eight months.

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Speaker 1: It kind of explained everything.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a very good point, I I I.

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Speaker 1: So, you guys grew up in the city.

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Speaker 2: I grew up in the city.

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Speaker 4: I am in third or fourth grade is when we

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Speaker 4: moved to womet So up until fourth, third or fourth grade,

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Speaker 4: I can't remember exactly we moved. We're in the city

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Speaker 1: You grew up in the cold.

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Speaker 4: Don't force me to make fun of you because.

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Speaker 1: You're so California.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess so California.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, I grew up. I grew up in the

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Speaker 1: Rockies too.

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Speaker 2: We have some Colorado in US.

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Speaker 4: I read a little about that before we go anywhere.

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Speaker 4: I do want to talk about Oliver's dancer, his twelve

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Speaker 4: year old Oh yeah, because I did ballet. I want

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Speaker 2: I wanted to talk about ballet. I also want to

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Speaker 2: talk about fly fishing, because I've been fly fish since

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Speaker 2: I was six years old. Like, you know, fishing is

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Speaker 2: my passion. It's not just fly I have a boat

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Speaker 2: the time. Like I am a big fisherman period.

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Speaker 4: I have been fly fishing, and I know this does

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Speaker 4: not look like fly fishing twenty five years. Nothing like

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Speaker 4: standing in the water yep, wait and waiting up in Montana. Oh,

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Speaker 4: we have Amy as my place.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, And you know Kimmel Jimmy is

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Speaker 2: a huge fly fishermen as well.

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Speaker 4: Yeah well, uh yeah, there's a couple of people. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: David let him as a place about forty five minutes

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, does Letterman like to fly fish. Yes, I'd

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Speaker 2: I love to see fish.

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Speaker 1: I fly fish with my brother. But I'm like one

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Speaker 1: of those people that likes to float.

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Speaker 2: She likes to float trips.

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Speaker 1: I like to float and drink. I like, I want

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Speaker 1: I want to. I want to fly fish on the

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Speaker 1: floater thing on the.

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Speaker 4: You want to be on the water. I want the

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Speaker 4: water rushing at you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I have a dream to go to Iceland. I want

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Speaker 1: to go to I want to go to Iceland and

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Speaker 1: fly fish. That's something trip I really want to do.

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Speaker 4: I'm coming with you, Well, I but I'm coming.

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Speaker 1: I have a friend, Peter Freelander, who who loves to

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Speaker 1: fly fish, loves fishing. I'm trying. I've been trying to

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Speaker 1: get Allie and him to get and and he goes

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Speaker 1: to Iceland every year, and I'm like, I want to.

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Speaker 2: Yeah it's good, it's good salmon there. But also Patagonia

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Speaker 2: I've never done, and I want to do that. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: how incredible is it?

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Speaker 1: Actually?

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Speaker 4: Three times if you count to Chile? Okay, the other

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Speaker 4: great trip. Yeah, I'll send you the video afterwards. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: New Zealand. Helicopter into a gorge and they come pick

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Speaker 2: God, that's incredible. That's the beauty of fly fishing, you know,

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Speaker 2: is it's just so much more than fishing. You know,

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Speaker 2: there's a spiritual, cathartic component to it all.

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Speaker 1: When died fishing because because I know for Oliver it

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Speaker 2: Pond, obsessed with fishing all my life.

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Speaker 4: So we amy and I'd make a decision. We want

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Speaker 4: to take the kids to travel the world. And a

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Speaker 4: passed away. And so our first trip is to Argentina.

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Speaker 4: And then we go to Argentina, we go to the Conzania,

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Speaker 4: we go to Uganda, we go to India, we allow us,

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Speaker 4: story with Obama once and I, you know, but where

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Speaker 4: he was disturbing it and.

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Speaker 2: Does he He doesn't.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't getting in the middle of your mental health.

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Speaker 1: He's like, he's calling you.

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Speaker 4: I said, I said, we did. It was not it

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Speaker 4: the middle of my fly fishing. And if you don't

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Speaker 4: hang up now, I'm doing I'm doing this on the

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Speaker 4: eighth all. And I don't give a crap about golf.

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Speaker 2: That's right. Let's get back to childhood. I'm curious, you know,

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Speaker 2: you guys growing up, what kind of household was it?

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Speaker 2: You know, what were your parents like was it? Did

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Speaker 1: What did they do?

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Speaker 4: My dad was a pediatrician and my mother pre kids

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Speaker 4: nursing and is very active in core congress our racial

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Speaker 4: That's about And you know, and again Amy and I

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Speaker 2: from your parents, and I inherited that from mine. We

442
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Speaker 2: do not do sit down meals. It's all on the run.

443
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Speaker 2: It's on the go. The kids are fucking everywhere. And

444
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Speaker 2: I love to cook. I will cook, but they come

445
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Speaker 2: down and grab it neat that and I'm just like,

446
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Speaker 2: all right, cool whatever, you know.

447
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's why all these kids stopped coming to

448
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:36,879
Speaker 1: my house because I'm like, everybody's gonna sit down here,

449
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Speaker 1: take your shoes. I we're gonna sit down, we're gonna

450
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Speaker 1: have meal, put your phones away, and they're like, I'm

451
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Speaker 1: never coming back.

452
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Speaker 2: It was the shoes off thing that really have they

453
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Speaker 2: come back like they're like, Dad, anty, Kate made us

454
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Speaker 2: take our shoes off because like we're not, We're never

455
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Speaker 2: going back there.

456
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Speaker 4: It is a recent thing because of Kate in Japan. Okay,

457
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Speaker 4: you're right, I know, right, you're right.

458
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 1: I I got with I married a Japanese I was

459
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Speaker 1: sort of married to a Japanese man. And the shoes

460
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Speaker 1: go off.

461
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Speaker 2: How much a humor play a part in your in

462
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Speaker 2: your family? Were you guys able to were you funny?

463
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Speaker 2: Were you crazy? You know, because you're obviously a funny dude.

464
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Speaker 4: Humor humor, I thought you said, meaning Chuck Schumer is

465
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Speaker 4: that he was never.

466
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Speaker 2: There was humor when we was Schumer, when you were

467
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Speaker 2: a young boy. No, No, it was an age humor,

468
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Speaker 2: you know, because you guys are funny dudes, You're you're witty.

469
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Speaker 4: I get you know, was very important. And you know

470
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Speaker 4: I remember these zero zero not Zerah Muspell mel Brooks

471
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Speaker 4: two thousand year old man in two thousand we used

472
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Speaker 4: to pay My dad used to play it every Sunday

473
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Speaker 4: night for us. I thought it was the funniest thing

474
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Speaker 4: you ever heard, the two thousand year old man, two

475
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Speaker 4: thousand and thirteen year old man. Yeah, very important.

476
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Speaker 1: I have a friend who's making a documentary on mel Brooks,

477
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 1: and I cannot wait.

478
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Speaker 4: I'm with you.

479
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,360
Speaker 1: He is my He's like one of my heroes, right,

480
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Speaker 1: I mean, when you think about the work that he's done,

481
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Speaker 1: and how he's made people laugh and I think the

482
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Speaker 1: best all time.

483
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Speaker 2: You know, watching your parents do what they did, you know,

484
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Speaker 2: obviously had a massive impact on what you guys wanted

485
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Speaker 2: to be a part of. You know, how much was

486
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Speaker 2: that sort of nature or how much was it nurture?

487
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Speaker 2: If they were steel workers, would you be a steel worker?

488
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Speaker 2: You know?

489
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Speaker 4: Well, prior to politics and prior to dance, I was,

490
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Speaker 4: I mean, after dance, I was going to be a

491
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Speaker 4: early childhood educated, early childhood psychologist. That's what I studied,

492
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Speaker 4: and I was interested. Now I used to be one

493
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Speaker 4: hundred percent believing in nurture. Having had my three kids,

494
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Speaker 4: I'm of the view. I'm of the view that nature

495
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Speaker 4: a dominant force, certain traits become more dominant in their character,

496
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Speaker 4: and other traits that they have recede to the background.

497
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Speaker 4: That's kind of my cheap pig child psychology.

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Speaker 2: I agree.

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Speaker 1: I agree, Yeah, because as you get older, you kind

500
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Speaker 1: of start to realize patterning and you're like, wait, there's

501
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Speaker 1: certain parts of your authentic self that feel like they're

502
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 1: not present anymore, but they're in there, and they kind

503
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Speaker 1: of claw you a little bit, and you're like, wait

504
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Speaker 1: a minute, why I need to access that and why

505
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Speaker 1: why can't I You know, when you think about your ancestry,

506
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 1: your DNA and what and what goes into that, like

507
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 1: if you look like all over just ours like from

508
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 1: you know, our grand great grandparents leaving hungry and them

509
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 1: being the only survivors from then on our father's side,

510
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Speaker 1: like the Sicilian mafia. You think about like all of

511
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 1: the things that go into that and then when you

512
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: you you you have to carry some of it. It's

513
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 1: in it's just in your DNA. We carry I believe

514
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Speaker 1: we carry that. You know that those strands that the

515
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Speaker 1: memory right, Yeah.

516
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Speaker 4: I mean, look, my mother was involved in obviously civil

517
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Speaker 4: rights movement, which is a big motivator of my getting

518
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 4: involved in politics. My dad being a pediatrician. You know,

519
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 4: I very much care. I created fold day kindergarten, full

520
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 4: day pre k, wanted to be an early childhood educator,

521
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:36,679
Speaker 4: and those kinds are big important. But there's a certain

522
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 4: thing about also just that was about being the middle child.

523
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 4: I was always trying to make peace at home, and

524
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Speaker 4: so you know, I think I don't know, I don't

525
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Speaker 4: think it's fifty to fifty, but there's no doubt post

526
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 4: having my own kids that I believe nature plays a

527
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Speaker 4: bit more.

528
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Speaker 2: Dominant role than Yeah, and then you know, obviously life

529
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Speaker 2: of public service in essential. So your kids are doing

530
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Speaker 2: the same correct.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's interesting. So the example I was, you have

532
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 4: to do a year of public service. You won the

533
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 4: lottery ticket being an American and you have to give

534
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 4: something back. Now, I'm gotta be honest, I'm thinking teach

535
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 4: for America. Amy's you know. Zach comes back, he's in

536
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 4: UCLA and he says, third junior year, I'm thinking of

537
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 4: joining the Marines. And I'm like, well, I'm thinking like

538
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 4: coast guard in Lake Superior. Okay, Now I didn't realize

539
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 4: fast forward that the Canadians were going to.

540
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Speaker 5: Be our enemies.

541
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

542
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 4: Yea father's grandfather are both Navy and maybe. Zach goes

543
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 4: back and after about three months he says, okay, I'm

544
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Speaker 4: I want to join the Navy, and so public service

545
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 4: is my kind of fifty percent contribution. Navy is Amy,

546
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 4: and he's on his completing his sixth year, and that's

547
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Speaker 4: Alana is now completing I think months is months six

548
00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 4: as the Navy reservists.

549
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Speaker 2: It's amazing.

550
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Speaker 1: So my middle son came to me. They didn't city,

551
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 1: my mom, what he goes? What should I feel like?

552
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 1: I want to go to military school. I want to

553
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 1: go to West Point. I was like, he did. Yeah,

554
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: He's like I want to be a Navy seal.

555
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 4: I'm like, what, Well, that's right, We're not going to

556
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 4: West Point. We're going to Annapolis for that.

557
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I was like, what is happening?

558
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 2: Being set?

559
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: Yes, he's fourteen, okay, and he comes his on his

560
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 1: father's side. His father was the only generation that didn't

561
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Speaker 1: serve and that's English and being just is like I

562
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Speaker 1: want to I want to like be in I want

563
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Speaker 1: to be a Navy seal. Oh, I have a heart.

564
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Speaker 2: Attack, Like this is a three and a half minutes

565
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Speaker 2: what I want cut to? You know, I wouldn't worry about.

566
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Speaker 4: It either, doctor Emmanuel, I wouldn't worry about it.

567
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 2: But what But what about his public service in general?

568
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 2: I mean, it used to be such an admirable thing.

569
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 2: You want to get into it, you know, but do

570
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 2: you find that it's just it's waning. People are like,

571
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 2: I don't want to get into this fucking.

572
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 4: You know, actually, so I would give you now, I

573
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 4: don't what do I know? But still I still grew

574
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 4: up with the Kennedy. Public service is a noble profession.

575
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 4: I think our generation my sucks. I think my kids

576
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 4: generation and they are so much aware of the world

577
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 4: and what's around them is now they think we are

578
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 4: all of us screwed it up. I said, well, the

579
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 4: world doesn't start just because you came around, so contra

580
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Speaker 4: to what your mother says that the world starts and

581
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Speaker 4: revolves around you.

582
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Speaker 2: It's just true.

583
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Speaker 4: But I think but they're much more civically and their

584
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 4: friends are much more cifically engaged than I remember my

585
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 4: high school and college friends, much more.

586
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Speaker 2: That's good to know.

587
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, they have everything solved all but they think that

588
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 4: we are all guilty for having screwed everything else.

589
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 2: Of course, But then, but then the next step is

590
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 2: do they want to step into the arena and try

591
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 2: to make a difference, you know, llor just Monday morning quarterback?

592
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 2: You know, which is fine too.

593
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. I think at least the friends

594
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 4: they have and or the friends they selected, that's another

595
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 4: thing sidetrack. Yeah, you know you've done well on a

596
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 4: parent not based on a report card. I don't know

597
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 4: who your kids pick as friends. Yes, and if their

598
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 4: friends are good, good, you have done well. Yes, there's

599
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 4: a moral judgment. It is not the A, the B,

600
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 4: the C.

601
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 2: Or the D.

602
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 4: I agree, it's the most under disgust and their friends

603
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 4: are were fabulous growing up, that's fabulous now. And that's

604
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 4: to me the most telling sign of the moral character

605
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Speaker 4: of your child.

606
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Speaker 2: Yes, I could agree. I couldn't agree more. You know,

607
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 2: I'm not a grades guy. I'm an effort guy. You know.

608
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Speaker 2: If you work your ass off on a math test

609
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Speaker 2: and I see that you're trying and it just doesn't

610
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 2: work out, I'm cool. I'm good, you know. I mean body,

611
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Speaker 2: my middle son is school is easy. I don't know

612
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 2: where he fucking comes from. Math bang bang bang gets

613
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 2: it all done. A's a's and he's the only one.

614
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 2: I don't know where this nurture. It's not nurture, but

615
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 2: it's definitely not nurture.

616
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 4: Nurture example nature.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm signing of nurture. The other way, I'm like,

618
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 2: let's take two days off, let's go skiing.

619
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Speaker 4: I am I am big about grades, but I am

620
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 4: saying the moral character. Yes, you will not see it

621
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 4: in a report card. You will only see it in

622
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Speaker 4: the friends of selection.

623
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Speaker 1: Yes, can we get into your dance. I really want,

624
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Speaker 1: I really want to know how this happened for you,

625
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Speaker 1: because I grew up dancing and I just love okay dance.

626
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Speaker 4: So my mother is the old Eastern Europe her grandfather,

627
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Speaker 4: my grandfather, her father Moldova, Eastern Europe.

628
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Speaker 2: Piece.

629
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Speaker 4: Now you want six', three two hundred and pounds a, boxer,

630
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Speaker 4: steelworker me. Cutter my mom is five. Eleven she's growing

631
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Speaker 4: up in The balanchine. Era five Eleven Russian Eastern european

632
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Speaker 4: stock just doesn't cut the. Stag that's a always resented

633
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Speaker 4: that she couldn't be a. Dancer that's B see my

634
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Speaker 4: freshman year of high, school in the off season of,

635
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Speaker 4: SOCCER i say to my, MOTHER i want to improve

636
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Speaker 4: my soccer. GAME i want to get my. BALANCE i

637
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Speaker 4: want to get ready for sophomore. Year that's My she

638
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Speaker 4: goes and this Is Rosie greer in The Minnesota vikings

639
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Speaker 4: taking up.

640
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 2: Ballet, YEAH i remember that the day, right she, goes.

641
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 4: You should take up ballet and start to. Dance SO

642
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 4: i walk in and there's twenty nine women.

643
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 5: And you're Pink AND i.

644
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 4: Was sitting on a bench with twelve.

645
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 5: Guys twenty nine.

646
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 6: WOMEN i can figure this out AND i start, dancing and.

647
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Speaker 5: That was the.

648
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Speaker 4: Reason but on the other, HAND i start to get

649
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Speaker 4: Really i'm good at. It actually it was really for,

650
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 4: soccer AND i discover a SKILL i didn't KNOW i.

651
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 4: Had AND i basically dropped soccer and pick up la

652
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Speaker 4: and then ended up having a scholarship to the school At,

653
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Speaker 4: geoffrey WHICH i didn't. TAKE i would decided to go

654
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 4: To Sarah lawrence.

655
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Speaker 1: Instead, wow did you keep dancing At Sarah?

656
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:01,720
Speaker 4: LAWRENCE i danced At Sara. LAWRENCE i danced afterwards always

657
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 4: in nineteen ninety five. AMAZING i danced at The Hubbard

658
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 4: street here In chicago And Joe. Hall growing, UP i

659
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 4: danced At Gus giordano And Evanston school of L.

660
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Speaker 1: A i love.

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Speaker 4: It.

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Speaker 1: Wow now now do you what do you do now to?

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Speaker 1: Like do you do? Pilatus do you keep your is

664
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Speaker 1: that something Your do you still keep your dancer?

665
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Speaker 4: Strength i'm strong about.

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Speaker 1: YOU i.

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Speaker 4: DID i. HAD i swear three times a week a.

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Speaker 4: MILE i do weightlift two times a week for an.

669
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Speaker 4: HOUR i do yoga twice a week for an hour

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Speaker 4: each AND i do bike and. Elliptical i'm. Great i'm

671
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Speaker 4: big about.

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00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 2: Yoga do you have a? Peloton, no you actually rode? Bike?

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Speaker 4: YEAH i did four WHEN i was. AMBASSADOR i did

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Speaker 4: Michigan here bike on The oregon, coast the whole coast

676
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Speaker 4: From washington to Calf.

677
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Speaker 2: Dude how is? That that's? Beautiful and weather wise probably

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Speaker 2: gnarily so?

679
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: Great, okay it was.

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Speaker 4: One rain and stuff like. That and THEN i did

681
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Speaker 4: i Did amsterdam To. BELGIUM i love.

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Speaker 1: Biking we used to do the bike.

685
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Speaker 2: Trips we used to Do butterfield And.

686
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 4: Robinson but yoga is my kind of replacement.

687
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 1: Dance have you gone To india yet and done like

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00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 1: a real? Yoga does this look like?

689
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 2: THAT i feel like you should do.

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00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: IT i feel like you look you're biking all over the.

691
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 1: World maybe you should do a Little india yoga.

692
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 2: Trip wait back to, them did you only dance ballet

693
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 2: or was there other?

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Speaker 4: Films So gustno was a Jet, NO i ballet was.

695
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Speaker 4: Mandatory got It Mama manuel as a foundation AND i

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Speaker 4: was in first with joehol Or Gus jerdonald different stages

697
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Speaker 4: of my life with jazz or, modern but ballet was

698
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:58,760
Speaker 4: always and you weren't allowed to drop.

699
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 2: It and from an from an artist, standpoint was there

700
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,919
Speaker 2: a true expression there for, you like through your through

701
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 2: dance or was it more? Physical much more?

702
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,879
Speaker 4: PHYSICAL i don't know about your, daughter but my right

703
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 4: side is more, dominant so as long AS i could

704
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 4: do a performance going to the. Right but, no it

705
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 4: was a physical thing and actually ends up bizarrely later

706
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Speaker 4: saved my. LIFE i did. It, yeah WHEN i was,

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Speaker 4: SEVENTEEN i had a major. Accident oh, RIGHT i nearly

708
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 4: died and the doctor, said if you weren't in your physical,

709
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 4: condition you would have been.

710
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 2: Gone and that was really really.

711
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 4: Made me obsessive about.

712
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Speaker 2: Exercise i'm just getting into my obsession of. Exercise i'm

713
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Speaker 2: forty nine AND i want to be in the best

714
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 2: shape of my life When i'm. Fifty And i've been,

715
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Speaker 2: like it's been three weeks And i'm hammering it right.

716
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Speaker 1: NOW i think part of the nature and, Nurture like

717
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Speaker 1: my mom did the. Same she's, like you're in, ballet

718
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Speaker 1: if you're going to do you can do hip, hop

719
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Speaker 1: you can do you, know jazz, contemporary but you have

720
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Speaker 1: to stay in, ballet AND i HATE i was so

721
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: mad all the, time, right and it was the best

722
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Speaker 1: thing she ever. DID i have such. Discipline i'm on

723
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: the jof for you ballet board now. AMAZING i love.

724
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 4: DANCE i love going to dance and seeing performance all the.

725
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Speaker 2: Time oh my, Gosh i'm, LIKE i weep and my,

726
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 2: daughter of, course there's so many different, reasons but when she's,

727
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Speaker 2: dancing it's just Like i'd lose it every.

728
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Speaker 4: Time, well you should, go you know, what there's a serious.

729
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Speaker 2: Thing.

730
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Speaker 4: Yeah San Francisco ballet is one of the premier ballet

731
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Speaker 4: companies in The United states Of america in the. World

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Speaker 4: they have a great artistic director and you should Take,

733
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Speaker 4: yeah she will love you.

734
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Speaker 2: Liking that is a great. Idea i'll buy the. Tickets

735
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Speaker 2: that is a great for the dance.

736
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: IDEA i wonder, ron, like where do you see yourself

737
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Speaker 1: in five? Years like you've done so? Much you know?

738
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: What what what are you looking forward? To be?

739
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Speaker 4: Consistent show? IS i want TO i can't wait to

740
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Speaker 4: see HOW i, mean my kids have become the young

741
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 4: adults and you've nurtured them and they're writing their own

742
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 4: chapters in. HISTORY i want to see where they are

743
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 4: back Where i'm. At. Two i'm making a decision in

744
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 4: the next two years about you, know my, uh WHETHER

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746
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Speaker 4: the last OFFICE i would cut a. Seat AND i

747
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 4: can't tell you if that's successful or. Not so that

748
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 4: determines where it will be on five years from, now

749
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750
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751
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 2: Guests of course we'll do a show a question about.

752
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753
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Speaker 4: Years one is if you kind of operationally the team

754
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Speaker 4: you want to put. Together most, IMPORTANTLY i have SOMETHING

755
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Speaker 4: i want to, say which is a. STORY i, Think,

756
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Speaker 4: look we're all three. Here we've we've been talking about,

757
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:04,080
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758
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Speaker 4: we can also do. Things let's be. Honest all of

759
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760
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761
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Speaker 4: the struggles to change the fifty mile an hour head

762
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Speaker 4: when they're going to be on their own. Tent AND

763
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Speaker 4: i just think, that you, know AS i often, say people,

764
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Speaker 4: have there's a sense you feel like it's you're screwed hearing,

765
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Speaker 4: that and it's heads somebody else wins and tails you. Lose,

766
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Speaker 4: well you're not, wrong because the system is actually rigged

767
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Speaker 4: against your success and against your kid's. Success AND i,

768
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Speaker 4: THINK i don't think it's an. Accident when The american

769
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Speaker 4: dream becomes unaffordable is exactly when our democracy becomes. Unstable

770
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Speaker 4: people stop believing that this is. Working AND i want

771
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Speaker 4: TO i WANT i THINK i believe WHAT i said,

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Speaker 4: earlier which, is if you're An, american you won the lottery,

773
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Speaker 4: ticket and a lot of people feel like they lost

774
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Speaker 4: not one or not only the, confidence but the accessibility In,

775
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,839
Speaker 4: so if you have, that you are, where you are,

776
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Speaker 4: alive and you think you have something that others don't,

777
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 4: Have i'll make a decision to do, it and then

778
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 4: you put the team together to do.

779
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 2: It how much does your family play into this, Decision, well.

780
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 4: It plays a tremendous, amount because you don't, one you

781
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 4: don't want to do anything to adversely affect your own,

782
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 4: kids and then b they've always supported me and the

783
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 4: things like. This it takes your, family you, KNOW i jokingly,

784
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Speaker 4: SAY i Put amy's lawyer on, spam SO i can

785
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Speaker 4: never you can never file all the. Papers and but you.

786
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Speaker 5: Know amy's been.

787
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Speaker 4: You, know both Through, congress chief Of, staff mayor and.

788
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Speaker 4: Stuff she's been incredibly supportive of. Stuff it wasn't her

789
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Speaker 4: first choice That i'm. Not you, know nobody, GOES i

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Speaker 4: want to marry the guy that wants to be mayored

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00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 4: in on a regular. Basis and you, KNOW i have

792
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 4: protesters outside the.

793
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 2: House because like, this this is. Great you, Know i'll tell.

794
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795
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Speaker 4: and short school you're in The United. STATES i was

798
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Speaker 4: going to give the kids a full school, day go

799
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Speaker 4: from five hours to seven hours and. Fifteen and there's

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Speaker 4: for the first. Time there's a bunch of protesters. Outside

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00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 4: there's four hundred people every morning. Screaming so the third

803
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Speaker 4: day of the strike And amy and you could hear

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00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 4: the screaming. Outside fucked for, that you. Know And amy,

805
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 4: Goes i'm about to walk out open the, door and she,

806
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 4: goes you, Know i've seen you through an. Impeachment i've

807
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 4: seen you through. Healthcare i've seen you through you, know

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Speaker 4: the fight for the assault. Weapon i've never seen you.

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00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 4: Calmer AND i, Go i've never felt more right about

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Speaker 4: What i'm. Doing open the. Door sure.

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Speaker 2: Her.

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Speaker 4: Credit she knows this is important to. Me it's not

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814
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,399
Speaker 4: something that's not a profession but something that's a. Calling

815
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Speaker 4: and so she. Supported And i'm very, fortunate very, fortunate.

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Speaker 2: fly fishing, trip you must let me know.

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Speaker 4: DONE i feel like.

819
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Speaker 1: AN i feel Like i'm Feeling iceland, GUYS i think

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Speaker 1: that we you, Know.

821
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Speaker 4: Okay did your guy former mayor Of louisville by the

822
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Speaker 4: name Of Greg. Fisherman, okay he goes fly fishing with

823
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Speaker 4: a group of guys every year To. Iceland, Kate i'm

824
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Speaker 4: gonna get all you know on the.

825
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Speaker 5: Street we're going to crash.

826
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Speaker 4: Trip that's, great but there's no, Floating.

827
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Speaker 2: Kate, no you gotta send you.

828
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Speaker 1: Guys WHEN i get, Cold i'll just sit in the.

829
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Speaker 2: LODGE i don't know if you know.

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Speaker 4: This the, lodge it is far.

831
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Speaker 1: Away, okay, Fine i'm, Good i'm. Good i'm an outdoors,

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Speaker 4: Sending you The New zealand, picture the, video the video of.

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Speaker 2: It it's THE i want to go To New zealand

836
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Speaker 5: With oliver AND i ended with.

839
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Speaker 7: That's.

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Speaker 1: Great this has been So, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for taking the, time. BROTHER i love. It,

842
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Speaker 2: yeah this is.

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00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 4: FUN i want to say thank you to both of.

844
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 4: You we don't talk as a country enough about the

845
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 4: fact how important family. Is and while it's fun we

846
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 4: were joking the fact that you guys decided not about

847
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:35,919
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848
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 4: thank you both enough for letting people in on not

849
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 4: only your, lives but having people talk about, theirs because

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00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 4: we don't do, that and it's a it's a chronic

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00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 4: problem for us as a. Country we have so many

852
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 4: other things that stem from. That so thank.

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00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 2: YOU i appreciate. That and you're so fucking right because

854
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 2: put everything, aside there's such relatability within family. Discussions whatever

855
00:44:56,680 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 2: side you're, on it doesn't. Matter those family reality are

856
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 2: all interconnected and if you can just talk about, it

857
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 2: you find common ground in an area that is not so.

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00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 2: Divisive that is just that is that is primal and.

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00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:12,919
Speaker 2: Real you, know that's where a lot of common ground

860
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:14,120
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Speaker 1: Really interesting family, too because we have a lot of

862
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: different beliefs in our, Family like we, all we're all very,

863
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 1: different and yet we can talk about, it we can discuss,

864
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 1: it we can argue about, it we can get a

865
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 1: little loud about. It but at the end of the,

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Speaker 1: day like we still only want to be with each.

867
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Speaker 4: Other usually our families don't want to be with each.

868
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Speaker 7: Other Thanks, rode, Guys, wow, cool he's.

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Speaker 2: Great he was. Great. Great, yeah that was. Great NOW

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Speaker 2: i have to vote for, him.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 2: CHOICE i want to talk to.

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00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: EVERYBODY i, MEAN i think what he's saying is. Right it's,

874
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: like you, know it's so. Interesting it's such an interesting.

875
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Speaker 1: Time AND i think anybody who lives like and, SAYS

876
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: i want to be of, service you, KNOW I i

877
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 1: there's a it's a, calling AND i feel LIKE i

878
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 1: want to you know, what no matter what side you're

879
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 1: on or what your beliefs, Are LIKE i think everybody

880
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,320
Speaker 1: really you, know that's where that's the where it comes.

881
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: From so it's just interesting when you get to know

882
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: people from the point of view of their. Family you,

883
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: know and like what drives someone to be in a

884
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: to be in public you, know public, service it's like you,

885
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 1: know AND i have to SAY i feel the same

886
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 1: way about, art you. Know and it's interesting that he's

887
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:53,280
Speaker 1: a dancer and that he has like a real that artist,

888
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: expression even though he says it's physical for. Him but,

889
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: LIKE i think art is a gift. Too it's a

890
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 1: calling to, meaning like when you want to, entertain that

891
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: calling is not necessarily just for, yourself even THOUGH i

892
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 1: think creating art is for. Yourself it's, too it's to

893
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:17,399
Speaker 1: it's to impact a community or an, experience you, Know

894
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 1: and and so it's it's as important on one edge

895
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 1: as it is to have the calling to actually be

896
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 1: in service of. Community and like, structure.

897
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 2: Of, COURSE i THINK i think it. Is it is.

898
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 2: Service it's just a different way to look at, it you.

899
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 2: KNOW i, mean for, sure you're doing a public service

900
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 2: when you put something out there artistically that touches people

901
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 2: and makes people think differently and feel differently and can

902
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:52,959
Speaker 2: potentially change their, lives which sounds, Extreme but art does,

903
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 2: That music does. THAT i, mean someone have probably taken

904
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 2: people off the, edge you know WHAT i, Mean.

905
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 1: And only that it can shift your Whole you could

906
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 1: you could see a movie and look at your life and, go,

907
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 1: well wait a, minute wait a, MINUTE i don't want

908
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 1: to do this. ANYMORE i want to do. THAT i

909
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 1: want TO i want to Be i'm not living the.

910
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 1: LIFE i want to be right so that it can do.

911
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 1: It but but but then you and, THAT i, think

912
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 1: from the artist, side is a calling to be a

913
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: part of that sort of emotional, experience whereas in politics

914
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 1: that calling is to actually feel like there's something that

915
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: they know that they can put out that can really

916
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:33,919
Speaker 1: impact their community or you, know. Globally it's just it's

917
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 1: fascinating to. ME i wonder how many such a scary, thing,

918
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:39,879
Speaker 1: yeah become a part, of you.

919
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 2: KNOW i wonder how many lives my turn As Eddie

920
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 2: doling On Dawson's creek have.

921
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: Saved oh my, God, OLIVER i, THINK i, THINK i Think.

922
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 2: Nashville definitely definitely impacted a lot of. PEOPLE i, get

923
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 2: LET i get.

924
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: Letters, yeah BUT i just loved. That that was so much.

925
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 2: Funny you, know it's.

926
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: Funny we're not like very. Political you AND i, like we,

927
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: don't you. Know and so when we interview politicians or

928
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 1: people who are in. Politics it's fascinating to. ME i

929
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: really want to do more of.

930
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 2: It, yeah it's an. Education, Yeah Green party would be. Great,

931
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 2: yeah Like Ralph nader is he's still. Alive i'll never

932
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 2: Forget Ralph.

933
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: Nader isn't that? Funny he was such a huge part

934
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 1: of our, childhood like that whole that whole election was

935
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 1: LIKE i feel like that was for, us like the

936
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Speaker 1: first election we understood it's.

937
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 2: True Yeahs, PARO i love all these.

938
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 1: Characters that was like us as kids learning about, politics

939
00:49:54,520 --> 00:50:02,439
Speaker 1: these sort of yeah, Ticket OH i love.

940
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Speaker 2: You that was a fun. One that was. Great, okay

941
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Speaker 4: H