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Speaker 1: And welcome to the Fantasy Flex Podcast. This is your

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Speaker 1: Waiver edition for week number four. I am your host,

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Speaker 1: Chris Raybond, joined as always by my guy Sean Kerner.

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Speaker 2: Sean, happy birthday again.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: We got to hang out and it was fun. I

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Speaker 2: must say you had me.

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Speaker 1: You had me betting on ski ball in a bar,

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Speaker 1: which I had never done before.

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Speaker 3: So the line I really sharked you was that five

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Speaker 3: and my buddy Greg bull to one eighty. So I

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Speaker 3: won some pretty decent money off you on that. I

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Speaker 3: guess before we should go on.

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Speaker 1: Not to start the show on a sad note, but

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Speaker 1: I do want to say rest in peace to to Mac,

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Speaker 1: Mike Tiglier and uh and you know, just best wishes

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Speaker 1: to his his whole family. That was just a major

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Speaker 1: loss and some news that just kind of tragic to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was just one of the best in the

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Speaker 3: entire industry. Great off of podcast too. Like you know,

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Speaker 3: I was pretty close with him. I'm in a dynasty

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Speaker 3: league with him. Just very unfortunate. If you can, please

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Speaker 3: donate to the GoFundMe. I retweeted it so it's it's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll put that link in the episode description. So again,

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Speaker 1: just very unfortunate news. I just wanted to talk about

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Speaker 1: that at the top. Hard to transition back, but let's

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Speaker 1: start it out with the Fantasy Flex Week four waiver

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Speaker 1: episode presented by Prize Picks with talk about Sam Donald

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Speaker 1: because we got to talk about the Panthers.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about the let's get it all out of

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Speaker 2: the way.

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Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey's hurt, he's going to be out, So let's

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Speaker 1: just actually start with chub Bu Hubbard and then we'll

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Speaker 1: talk about Sam Donald as a streamer and do it

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Speaker 1: that way. Sean Hubbard played fifty five percent of the

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Speaker 1: snaps to Royce Freeman's fifteen percent. Against Houston, he had

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Speaker 1: fourteen touches to Freeman's six. So the big question is

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Speaker 1: how much of your budget are you willing to spend

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Speaker 1: on cheue b Hubbard while he's filling in for Christian

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Speaker 1: McCaffrey over these next few weeks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it all comes down to the situation

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Speaker 3: you're in. If you're oh in three and you know,

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Speaker 3: are hurting it running back, I think I would bid

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Speaker 3: you know, potentially over fifty percent of my budget, especially

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Speaker 3: if there aren't many running backs with this sort of upside,

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Speaker 3: because he's really going to become that Mike Davis role

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Speaker 3: we saw last year. I think he's going to be

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Speaker 3: receiving usage. He dropped two balls already this season on

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Speaker 3: owing three hurting it running back, you could use you know,

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Speaker 3: probably a three to four week rental, if we're being honest.

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Speaker 3: But if you're if you're three and oh you're solid

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Speaker 3: on him. So I think it depends on your situation,

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Speaker 2: I'd probably be.

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Speaker 1: Even a little bit more conservative. I'd probably spend you know,

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Speaker 1: thirty thirty five percent tops. Obviously, yes more you're a

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Speaker 1: actually concerned that McCaffrey's not going to miss that much

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Speaker 1: time because Jason Wachinfora reported that McCaffrey's dealing with lower

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Speaker 1: than a grade one hamstring strain. They called it like

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Speaker 1: Those are like bone injuries. Now, soft tissue hamstrings, they

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Speaker 1: on IR. Now we're recording this Monday afternoon, so obviously

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Speaker 2: But those are the reports that we're hearing right now.

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Speaker 1: Mild hamstring strain, No injured was deserve designation for McCaffrey.

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Speaker 1: So that's kind of what I'm tempering expectations on. I

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Speaker 2: I do. I am kind of with you.

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Speaker 1: I do worry a little bit in the back of

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Speaker 1: he should be fine. He should give you like double

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Speaker 1: tray sermon, Like whatever tray Sermon gave us yesterday should

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Speaker 1: that McCaffrey won't be out for too long. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's talk about Donald now, because Donald well and behold

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Speaker 1: is the QB eleven this season.

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Speaker 2: He was the QB five last week.

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Speaker 1: A couple of rushing scores, and he's got a matchup

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Speaker 1: As a streamer for this week, especially with McCaffrey out.

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Speaker 3: I hope it's a Terrence Marshall eruption spot. And yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think they're gonna be a little bit more pass

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Speaker 3: don't think Sam Donald's gonna be able to keep this

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Speaker 2: Damn Darnold is the leverage, like ad on On Huybard,

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Speaker 3: Oh God, don't put that into the world, but you're

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Speaker 3: see that happening. But yeah, I think when it comes

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Speaker 3: So there's like three massive tiers at quarterback right now,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I want to talk about some of these

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Speaker 1: each of these teams. Kirk Cousins QB four this season,

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Speaker 1: QB eleven last week looks really good Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: It's a one point spread, so this could be a

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Speaker 1: very good game for fantasy purposes. But Cleveland did just

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Speaker 1: completely eviscerate justin Field. So curious as to what you

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Speaker 1: think about Cousins as a streamer. I'm sure he's still

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I said last week, he was one of

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Speaker 3: So I think Cleveland probably, Yeah, they look good, but

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Speaker 3: tougher matchup, but I think Kirk Cousins can overcome it.

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Speaker 1: And speaking of fields, what did you think of fields?

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Speaker 1: the Bears. I lost him all if you took that out,

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Speaker 2: Had the week before. And remember this Cleveland defense.

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Speaker 1: They were getting shredded by Tyrod Taylor, you know, the

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Speaker 2: So I am I am officially worried about fields. But

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Speaker 2: what did you think?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, it was really bad. And you know, we

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Speaker 2: That was way too low.

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Speaker 3: We were projecting two forty two fifty. It looks like

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Speaker 3: we were wrong about that. This this looks like it's

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Speaker 3: then it's a concern. I just think he's probably holding

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Speaker 3: So you know, I'm not I'm not really investing in

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Speaker 3: if you know Josh Jacobs suits up, then he's unplayable.

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Speaker 3: So I'm probably letting someone else bid on him this week,

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Speaker 3: because like Kenan Drake is still there. This is still

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Speaker 1: the Prize Picks app and compare our player projections to

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Speaker 1: off with your prize pick Elite entry for the Monday

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Speaker 1: night matchup between the Philadelphia Eagles and the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: So my favorite prop tonight is Dalton Schultz to go

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Speaker 3: there's several reasons why I love this prop, so I'll

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Speaker 3: give you three of them. Number one, it's just likely

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Speaker 3: So it's been you know, a two way committee for now,

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Speaker 3: Schultz has caught all eight of his targets this year.

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Speaker 3: He's not going able to sustain one hundred percent catch trait,

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Speaker 2: And you know his a.

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Speaker 3: Dot is two point eight yards this year, which is pathetic.

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Speaker 3: That's a third lowest. So he get three to even

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Speaker 3: four catches and still stay out of this number. He's

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Speaker 3: the Eagles have done a pretty good job balling up

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Speaker 3: Kittle four catches for seventeen yards last week. So Dalton

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Speaker 3: Schultz is nowhere near those two tight ends. So I

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Speaker 3: love this under I'm projecting a culture at twenty two

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Speaker 3: all three of these reasons necessarily, so I would take

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Speaker 3: this down to about twenty three and a half.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, this is my favorite type of prop.

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Speaker 1: On last Monday, night I had under Mars Ladies Lewis

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Speaker 1: like six and a half and under Darren Fells five

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Speaker 1: like four or five balls.

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Speaker 3: Still goes I think five passes unscrewed.

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Speaker 1: Hey, but he had four for eighteen last Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: that fifth one they have just given him, like you know,

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Speaker 3: I just hope he doesn't catch him pass but yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: three catches were still under this So this is a

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Speaker 3: that's a good one.

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Speaker 2: That is a good one.

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Speaker 2: I can't compete with that one, but go, that's just

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Speaker 2: a really good one. I like that one.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna use that one in my entry with Jaywen Hurts,

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Speaker 1: and I'm going over a zero point five interceptions, so

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Speaker 1: I'm picking him to throw a pick in this game.

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Speaker 1: Uh first of all, and half an interception, you're essentially

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Speaker 1: to throw a pick. Jayalen Hurts still has four interceptions

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Speaker 1: play zone defense. They're gonna want to keep their eyes

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Speaker 1: It's not gonna be like San Francisco last week where

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts and that Philly offense more than any team

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Speaker 2: The Eagles defense. So put projecting over a half a

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Speaker 3: I'm with you there. I'm projecting for zero point eighty five,

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Speaker 3: think they correlate pretty well. You know, Jalen Hurtstone interception,

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Speaker 3: throwing a Dalton Schultz. So I love these two the

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Speaker 1: here's the thought. Here's a scary thought, you said, Peyton

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Speaker 1: Barber may be unplayable, right.

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Speaker 3: If Josh Jacobs plays. Are you saying it's maybe, uh oh.

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Speaker 1: maybe that's what was grendy Gruden get there twenty eighteen

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Speaker 2: But Gruden just loves guys like Barber.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, if you have Josh Jacobs right now,

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Speaker 2: Like do you think his value will ever be higher?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good point. I mean you're not really

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Speaker 3: Like god, yeah, no, I think Josh Jacobs trapped, Like yeah,

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Speaker 1: Taylor Heineke any any love for him going against the

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Speaker 1: Wana this week?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? No, He's looked pretty good in terms of fantasy anyways,

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Speaker 3: and then this week he has a plus matchup against

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Speaker 3: the Falcons. So I would consider him sort of that

437
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Speaker 3: high end streamer, you know tier right now. He has

438
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Speaker 3: that rushing upside we love he has, you know, Terry McLaurin.

439
00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,800
Speaker 3: He might get Curtis Samuel back this week, if not

440
00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,920
Speaker 3: this week, next week, So I'm okay investing in Tayler

441
00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,560
Speaker 3: Heineke if if you're hurting at quarterback. He has that

442
00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,719
Speaker 3: that upside we love, so in a matchup like this,

443
00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:48,280
Speaker 3: he could be absolutely pliable.

444
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Speaker 2: All right, let's trip.

445
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Speaker 1: Gears and talk about some more running backs here. James

446
00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,760
Speaker 1: White goes down for New England. Uh is there anyone

447
00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,200
Speaker 1: we want in his backfield? Or is it just the

448
00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,639
Speaker 1: Damien Harris show. Well, it's the Damien hair show. But

449
00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,680
Speaker 1: I think JJ Taylor is worth a flyer right now.

450
00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:10,480
Speaker 1: I would consider well, I'd consider Stevenson to be, you know,

451
00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,960
Speaker 1: Damien Harris's true backup, and JJ Taylor is probably James

452
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,840
Speaker 1: White's back up, and that's certainly a role we want

453
00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,000
Speaker 1: to invest in. With Mac Jones under center. I mean

454
00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,320
Speaker 1: he's dumping it off to the running back quite a bit.

455
00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,560
Speaker 1: There's no more Rex burkehead, so you know, JJ Taylor

456
00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,560
Speaker 1: might dominate this passing work. So I think he's worth

457
00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,320
Speaker 1: a flyer. And Brandon Bolden killed in a bit last week.

458
00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,840
Speaker 1: That was probably just because the injury happened in game.

459
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Speaker 1: I don't think he'll be part of the game plan

460
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Speaker 1: going in the next week. With Bill Belichick, we never know,

461
00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,240
Speaker 1: but JJ Taylor is certainly worth a flyer, especially if

462
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,359
Speaker 1: you know Stevenson and Harris, you know they keep up

463
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Speaker 1: these fumbling issues. He could end up being the workhorseback.

464
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Speaker 1: So that's why I always like investing in these like

465
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Speaker 1: third string running backs on the Patriots, because they always

466
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Speaker 1: have that RB two upside. If all these backs are

467
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Speaker 1: ending up in the doghouse, JJ Taylor could emerge as

468
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Speaker 1: an RB two. Speaking of third string backs and the Patriots,

469
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:09,120
Speaker 1: Tom Brady dumped it off to Jioe Bernard ten times

470
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,879
Speaker 1: last week, Geo Clutton nine balls for fifty one in

471
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Speaker 1: a touchdown.

472
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,439
Speaker 2: He still doesn't have a carry this year.

473
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Speaker 1: Though, I'm sure he's on most people's wires and they're

474
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Speaker 1: gonna see that big game. Is he worth picking up

475
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Speaker 1: or is that just kind of an outlier because like

476
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Speaker 1: one of the few times the Bucks are going to

477
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Speaker 1: be a losing script this year.

478
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Speaker 3: That's what I was going to say. It just it's

479
00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 3: gonna be rare that the Bucks get into a trailing

480
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Speaker 3: game script like that, so I wouldn't buy into it.

481
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Speaker 3: And I think he got hurt at the very end

482
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Speaker 3: of the game, so i'd look out for that. We

483
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 3: love Joe Bernard on the Fantasy Flex, but I am

484
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 3: not buying into him right now.

485
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Speaker 1: Somehow, he was the second Giovanni mentioned on this podcast,

486
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,680
Speaker 1: though Oh true, Giovanni Ricci got it. He got the nod,

487
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,639
Speaker 1: but uh yeah, I guess I didn't. We didn't even

488
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 1: plan to discuss this, but I do have to ask

489
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Speaker 1: Ronald Jones drop him.

490
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Speaker 2: Four carries, six carries, five carries.

491
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Speaker 3: First of all, I don't even know why you drafted him.

492
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 3: Remember I said, why the hell is his adp RB thirty?

493
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,359
Speaker 3: So if you've been listening to this pod, hopefully you

494
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 3: just don't have him. But if you do, uh, and

495
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 3: there's like anybody out there that's playable, drop him. Although

496
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 3: I will say, you know his his appeal is if

497
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Speaker 3: Leonard Fournette goes down, I mean, he could be an

498
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Speaker 3: RB two, but he just doesn't have enough upside to

499
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:26,719
Speaker 3: even stashing in your bench right now in my opinion.

500
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Speaker 1: Wait, nine percent of the snaps in week one jumped

501
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 1: to forty one percent in week two, which is still

502
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 1: not great. Uh, and then down to sixteen percent last

503
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,679
Speaker 1: week when Arian's kind of told us, he was like,

504
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 1: you know, for Net's going to start. I was able

505
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,359
Speaker 1: to get to the Jones prop at twenty eight and

506
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 1: a half rushing yards, so that and he hasn't he

507
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 1: still hasn't hit that in any game this season. So yeah,

508
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 1: it's it's looking ugly.

509
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Speaker 3: This is brutal.

510
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Speaker 1: It's not a good situation. Who else we got to

511
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 1: talk about here? Thoughts on the Atlanta situation, Mike Davis.

512
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Speaker 1: I mean, he did get sixteen touches, he got seventy yards,

513
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 1: so he didn't get a touchdown, but on the surface,

514
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,360
Speaker 1: his numbers look decent. He played sixty percent of the snaps,

515
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 1: but Cordell Patterson outperformed him again on forty two percent

516
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 1: of the snaps and three fewer touches. Patterson got twenty

517
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,919
Speaker 1: two more yards. He had thirteen touches for ninety two yards.

518
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:23,360
Speaker 2: Is Mike Davis like gonna lose his job?

519
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 3: I don't think he's gonna lose his job. And you know,

520
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 3: I think that normally, if we knew the Falcons were

521
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Speaker 3: in a two way committee at running back, we would

522
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 3: want nothing to do with it. But they've been more

523
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Speaker 3: run heavy under Arthur Smith. They had the ninth highest

524
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Speaker 3: run rate and neutral situations right now and early down.

525
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Speaker 3: So I think there's potential here for Mike Davis to

526
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Speaker 3: be sort of the workhorse back. Obviously, he doesn't have

527
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 3: much upside, like a low, low end RB two kind

528
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 3: of flex play. Whereas Cordell Patterson, you know, he has

529
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Speaker 3: this pass catching role. They didn't they don't have Hulu anymore.

530
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Speaker 3: Obviously they didn't have Russell Gage, so there's a role

531
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Speaker 3: for him in this offense. So I think both running

532
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Speaker 3: backs can be playable in deeper leagues. Would you say

533
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Speaker 3: that Patterson could be this year's Jad McKissick, just you know,

534
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 3: a guy that's kind of a lock for forty five

535
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 3: catches every week, give you a high floor, yeah, kind

536
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 3: of playing PPR Like that's what he's shaping out to be.

537
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 1: Absolutely, But I just have this feeling in the back

538
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 1: of my head that there's gonna be a week sooner

539
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:20,640
Speaker 1: or later when he gets more touches than Mike Davis,

540
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Speaker 1: and it's gonna be like carries, not just catches, just

541
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Speaker 1: because he's been playing well and Davis, I mean, Davis

542
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 1: was in the Christian McCaffrey role last year, so that

543
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 1: and like he wasn't overly efficient, he just but he

544
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Speaker 1: ran hard.

545
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Speaker 2: He looked good. Coaches love him.

546
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Speaker 1: But it just I don't know, it just worries me

547
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 1: every time Patterson keeps putting up these good games because

548
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Speaker 1: Davis hasn't really done much. So uh yeah, I'm another

549
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,360
Speaker 1: guy that I might try to get out of. Well

550
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Speaker 1: I still can in Mike Davis. You know, just kind

551
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Speaker 1: of is it's getting to that time of year. What

552
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Speaker 1: did you think of a Trey Sermon in that San

553
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Speaker 1: Francisco backfield. I've just decided that Kyle Shanahan hates his

554
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:03,360
Speaker 1: entire team like he doesn't he doesn't trust Jimmy Garoppolo

555
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,679
Speaker 1: at in the red zone. He doesn't trust Trey Sermon

556
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,479
Speaker 1: because he gave youth Check like five carries and there

557
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 1: were there was twenty one carries and Sermon got ten

558
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 1: of them, like Glance got it one, Kiddo got one

559
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,159
Speaker 1: like it seemed like he was devising every way not

560
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: to give Trey Sermon like fifteen twenty carries U And

561
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 1: then he obviously hates Brandon Ayuk. So Kyle Shanan just

562
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 1: hates his old team. But what did you think of Sermon?

563
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 1: I thought I thought he kind of got bailed out

564
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 1: by the touchdown. Just ten of the twenty one carries

565
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Speaker 1: only thirty one yards.

566
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Speaker 2: Didn't didn't look too great.

567
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I agree, he definitely bailed those of us

568
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,919
Speaker 3: that played him out with that touchdown. And you know,

569
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Speaker 3: he really ramped up Kyle us Check's usage. Oh my goodness,

570
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Speaker 3: so sixty nine percent. Oh by the way, guess how

571
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:51,880
Speaker 3: many percentage of snaps Kyle used Check played six ten

572
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Speaker 3: than tray sermon.

573
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Speaker 2: Wow?

574
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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I mean, this is the week to play

575
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Speaker 3: tray sermon. And now you know, I'm worried. We're gonna

576
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Speaker 3: have to kind of see how the shit out if

577
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 3: and when Elijah Mitchell comes back, which I think could

578
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 3: be this week. So it was a very concerning game

579
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Speaker 3: considering trace Sermon have like no competition outside of Kyle Yustchek,

580
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 3: and yeah, he didn't look good. He had that one

581
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 3: play where he fell backwards and lost like ten yards

582
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 3: or something like. It was not pretty. So maybe there

583
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 3: is a reason he was in the doghouse. So this

584
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 3: I will stand pat saying we need to invest in

585
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 3: these forty and I are running back. But right now

586
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 3: it's dicey. Let's kind of wait and see how this

587
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 3: shakes out this week before we play him again.

588
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and even though it's like a home favorite spot

589
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 1: this week for Sermon, which we love for running backs,

590
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: I wouldn't take that.

591
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,400
Speaker 2: I would take that with kind of a grain of salt.

592
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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson is sixty five percent, you know, coming off

593
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Speaker 1: a loss, he's sixty five percent as a road dog,

594
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,439
Speaker 1: I fully expect that Seattle could have just as much

595
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: of a chance to win his game. And they're a

596
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 1: more desperate team, so this this could be another ugly game.

597
00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 3: Script for Sermon.

598
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't just kind of blindly say, okay, you know,

599
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 1: home favorite high total play him. I'm definitely kind of

600
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 1: exercising some caution with him. Zach Moss obviously needs to

601
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: be rostered. If he was dropped, he played fifty seven

602
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 1: percent of snap's got sixteen touches, and they have another

603
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: game script where that could happen this week because they

604
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: go against Houston. The Jets play the Titans. Who are

605
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 1: they on paper?

606
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 2: Their defense is not great.

607
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 1: Ty Johnson's fifty seven percent of the steps, Carter forty

608
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 1: three percent. Any thoughts on on like, are these guys

609
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 1: going to be usable at all against a bad defense?

610
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 3: Is it still just to stay away? It's a stay away.

611
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:42,239
Speaker 3: This backfield is an absolute disaster right now. I mean,

612
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 3: the Jets have scored twenty points on the season. Usually

613
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 3: we want to invest in running backs on teams that

614
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 3: can drive downfield and score points, right they do neither.

615
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 3: And you know, McKai Beckton still out to this offensive

616
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 3: lines brutal. I will say, though, Michael Carter is starting

617
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 3: to look like the workhorse back. You know, Vin Coleman

618
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 3: had zero touches, Michael p Ryan.

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Speaker 2: And jo huh Kevin Como was out. Yeah, no, he

620
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Speaker 2: had I'm just I'm saying he's they had zero touches too. Yeah.

621
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Speaker 3: Headed into the season, they had these five running backs, right, Yeah,

622
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 3: So Kevin Coleman's out, He's out of the picture. Like

623
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 3: let's just say that Josh Adams, Michael p Ryan, even

624
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 3: Ty Johnson. Ty Johnson out snapped Michael Carter but Carter's

625
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 3: still out touched him by seven touches. So I'm just

626
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 3: saying it's we kind of called this right that Michael Carter.

627
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 3: Keep him on your bench if you have him like

628
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 3: he's going to emerge as the workhorse back. We've seen

629
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 3: that happen. We just need this offense to do something now.

630
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 3: So that's why I think you can still roster him

631
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 3: and only him right now.

632
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Speaker 1: Okay, do we have anything on the AJ Brown injury?

633
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: I know he left the game or early.

634
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 2: Julio Jones.

635
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: I saw whenly played about fifty five percent of the

636
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: snaps in that game too. I know it was kind

637
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: of a the Titans are controlling it, but what what

638
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: do people do with AJ Brown's out this week? Is

639
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 1: there anyone kind of you're thinking you would target or.

640
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 3: Well, we don't know if he's going to be out.

641
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 3: I think they might be cautious just considering they're playing

642
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 3: the train wreck that is the Jets right now, so

643
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 3: this could be a Derrick Henry fifty carry game. And yeah,

644
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 3: Julio did look banged up, but I would assume he

645
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 3: would step up in the spot Anthony Firkser might return

646
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 3: and could see you know, three plus catches. Nick Westbrook

647
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 3: would be the sneaky PPR flyer that we might talk

648
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 3: about tomorrow on the DFS Show. But other than that,

649
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 3: I think they're gonna just kind of be careful with

650
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 3: them because they're playing the Jets and just just feed

651
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 3: Derrick Henry. Why not in a game like this.

652
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 1: So if there's a guy like Deshaun Jackson on the wires,

653
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 1: he is he worth rostering at this point? You think,

654
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 1: like we heard Sean Vay saying, hey, I need to

655
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: get him more involved. You know, three catches on five targets,

656
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty yards and a touchdown. You know,

657
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: out of all the guys that kind of popped last week,

658
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, there's a lot of deep receivers

659
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: like bound a Scantling got a deep ball and it's

660
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: Neoltill scored a touchdown. Would Jackson be the kind of

661
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: the priority ad or is it more like a guy

662
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: like Hunter Renfro who's I'm sure still available in a

663
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: lot of spots and he's kind of looking like a

664
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: week in, week out target for Derek Carr.

665
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, you kind of called it after I think it

666
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 3: was week one or week two, like, where the hells

667
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 3: are DeShawn Jackson to catch hundred yard one touchdown game.

668
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 3: I mean, they might as well use him in this

669
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 3: role while he's healthy. It gives him that vertical element.

670
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 3: And you know, you saw Sean McVay run down the

671
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 3: field and he was the first person to congratulate to

672
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 3: Shawn Jackson after that, So I think he's gonna keep

673
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 3: him in there going forward. So I would say, you know,

674
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 3: if you're a big underdog going into a matchup, DeShawn

675
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 3: Jackson is the kind of guy you want on your team.

676
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 3: You want that super high ceiling at the expense of

677
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 3: a potentially low floor. So I would add him if

678
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 3: your team's struggling, you're an underdog this week, He's the

679
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 3: perfect kind of guy in that role. Whereas Hunter Renro,

680
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 3: you know he's going to provide a high, high floor,

681
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 3: maybe not the same ceiling as Deshaun Jackson. So if

682
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 3: you're a big favorite this week and you just need

683
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 3: a guy to get your handful of points, go with

684
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 3: Hunter Renfro, where you know d Jacks. He's always gonna

685
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 3: be that home run threat when he's healthy. So yeah,

686
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 3: I think I think he's worth an ad right now.

687
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 1: I wanted to get your thoughts on the Cardinals to

688
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: a little bit. AJ Green eighty six percent of the routes,

689
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: Christian Kirk seventy three percent, Rondo More down a thirty

690
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: eight percent.

691
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 2: Is this a situation where because Green and Kirk built

692
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 2: at one hundred yard games, is like, where are we

693
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 2: on more?

694
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: Like, where do you kind of see More being ranked

695
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: and your weekly rankings going forward? Because I had him

696
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: higher than both of those guys, and he made me

697
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: look stupid. So I'm just curious as to, uh, you know,

698
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: kind of what you're seeing for More going forward.

699
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 3: I mean, let's face it, this is just going to

700
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 3: be a tricky team to project right now, especially if

701
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 3: Hopkins sort of playing the decoy role. I mentioned last

702
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 3: week in my tears that he was a potential cell

703
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 3: high option. I still think he's going to be the

704
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 3: alph in this offfense. But you called it like that.

705
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 3: These ancillary receivers are stepping up. So AJ Green had

706
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 3: a big game. Christian Kirk has looked really good this year.

707
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 3: He's played well, So yeah, and then we're going to

708
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 3: have rundown more to have these like blow up games too,

709
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,959
Speaker 3: where you know he has a low flour also, so

710
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 3: I just think it's going to come at the expense

711
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 3: of Hopkins. You know, he's sort of drawing the attention

712
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 3: of the defense. He's playing at less than a hundred percent.

713
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 3: So this week facing the Rams, you know, he's probably

714
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 3: gonna draw Jayalen Ramsey most of the game, opening up

715
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 3: the field for these other three receivers. So it's it's

716
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 3: going to be very tricky to just rank these guys.

717
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 3: And right now I have DeAndre Hopkins as my wide

718
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 3: receiver seventeen.

719
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 2: Where do you have them? I have not done my production.

720
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 3: Where do you think you're gonna get?

721
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 2: Probably higher than that. I just feel like going again,

722
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 2: like the Rams aren't.

723
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: Shadowing, Like they're not shadowing, So I like because remember

724
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: Jayalen Ramsey's like in that star position. Now they're using

725
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,959
Speaker 1: him a lot closer to the minus scrimmage. I even

726
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 1: heard Troy Aikman say on the telecast in the Bucks

727
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: Rams game that he was like, yeah, Mike Evans has

728
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: been out there.

729
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 2: Jalen Ramsey really hasn't been on him. Uh So I'm

730
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 2: not that.

731
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,399
Speaker 1: Word, and I just think at the end of the day,

732
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: it's like I don't want to I don't want to

733
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: bet against DeAndre Hopkins, Like that's just not the type

734
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,439
Speaker 1: of guy that I want to bet against, because, yeah,

735
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: he was banged up. This week, they're playing the Jaguars.

736
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 1: You know, two guys had one hundred yards. He didn't

737
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: really need to do much, but the two they're two

738
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: most talented receivers, both had bad games. So like the

739
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: way I see it is like that's going to rebound,

740
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: and it might. It might start this week because they're

741
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 1: gonna need production out of Hopkins this week.

742
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 2: Cause I'm not I'm not gonna overreact yet.

743
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: You know, if we see that kind of a trend,

744
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 1: you know, a couple of weeks, two, three, four weeks

745
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: and more is kind of you know, ascending, then you're

746
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 1: in these guys are playing well, then you have more

747
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,399
Speaker 1: options than I think. But right now, I just think,

748
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: you know, they have four guys so and two of

749
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: them had one hundred yards, so it's just and you're

750
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 1: playing a team that didn't really make you pass.

751
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, I wouldn't better against some long term

752
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:16,879
Speaker 3: but I doubt he's going to be in your top

753
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 3: eight this week, like he's top eight.

754
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 2: Just because there's so yeah, I mean, there's so many

755
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 2: good receivers in the week. I mean, you gotta it.

756
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: Might have to have both Vikings in my top eight,

757
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 1: both Seahawks, so yeah, yeah, both Cowboys.

758
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 3: Let's face it, Cooper Cup is number one.

759
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, Cup, you can't.

760
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 3: We made a pack last week not to rank him

761
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 3: outside of the top three. We weren't allowed to do that.

762
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,919
Speaker 3: We might need to narrow that to like top two

763
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 3: top ones, okay, him and DeVante.

764
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: Him and DeVante, like like Tyreek is having one of

765
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:54,240
Speaker 1: those you know, the volatility Patrick mahone making some uncharacteristic mistakes.

766
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I mean DeVante had a really good matchup

767
00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 2: last week.

768
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 1: So I mean, you know, to Niners, like they their

769
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: cornerback situation, you can they're putting them in a slot.

770
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,439
Speaker 1: So I mean Davante might have to be the wide

771
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: receiver one from now on and Cup the wide receiver two,

772
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: and then and then it's like a toss up from there. Yeah,

773
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: Like Tyreek is not even in that conversation anymore. So

774
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 1: that's just I haven't I haven't put the numbers to

775
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: just yet, but that's kind of how I'm looking at it. Uh, Okay,

776
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: let's quickly, you know, giants injuries. Shepherd went down, Slayton

777
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,879
Speaker 1: went down. I don't know if we've seen any updates yet,

778
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: but that's if Kenny Galladay kind of sneak back into

779
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 1: startability Evan Ingram any interest against the Saints here, who

780
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: have a really good defense by the looks of it.

781
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 3: Yet again, Yeah, it's just a shame that it seems

782
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 3: like Daniel Jones can never have all of his past

783
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 3: catchers healthy. I mean, he finally got baked Barkley closer

784
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 3: to one hundred percent and Evan Ingram returned, and then

785
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 3: he just lost Shepherd and Slayton. Slayton's probably not that

786
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 3: big of a deal, but I do think that maybe

787
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 3: Kenny Galladay is a high end wide receiver three. Now

788
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 3: I'll have to update my projections, but I've been calling

789
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 3: for Galladay to be kind of like a Bilo option.

790
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 3: It's truly to know who's out right now, but if

791
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 3: both Shepherd and Slayton are out, I think Colin Johnson

792
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,720
Speaker 3: might be an interesting flyer. He's six foot six, two twenty.

793
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 3: He could be a good red zone target if you

794
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 3: know they're double team in Galladay or whatever. Colin Johnson

795
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,879
Speaker 3: could be sneaky. I was surprised when the Jaguars cut him.

796
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 3: I thought he had some potential going in the season.

797
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 3: So just keep him on your radar if both of

798
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,879
Speaker 3: these receivers are out. Other than that, we're only really

799
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 3: interested in Galladay and Barkley right now in this offense anyway.

800
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 3: But yeah, monitor the situation this week.

801
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,240
Speaker 2: So you would add Johnson over a guy like Kadarius Tony, Oh.

802
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I don't think Tony's ready. He's more of

803
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 3: a gadget player that I don't think Jason Garrett's figured

804
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 3: out quite yet to use. I wouldn't consider him a

805
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 3: guy that I would stash right now. Like I said,

806
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 3: I think Colin Johnson just has that massive frame where

807
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 3: he could be the red zone target. I think he's

808
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 3: the ad out of anybody on the Giants team right now.

809
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: And then so the Steelers, you know, Deontay missed the game,

810
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: Juju went down. They played the Packers this week, so

811
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: that's that's gonna be a tough matchup for if Chase

812
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 1: Claypool is the last guy standing. That's gonna be a

813
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 1: tough matchup for him against Jaire Alexander. We don't know

814
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: yet if Deontay is going to be back. I would

815
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 1: assume that jayro would be on Deontay more if that

816
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: were the case. But any interest in any anybody on

817
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: the Steelers pass catching court. I mean, they're having to

818
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 1: throw a ton just because they're not very good, so

819
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: there's got to be some value there somewhere. But it's

820
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: I'm having a hard time because fire Booth only played

821
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 1: about a third of the snaps a week after kind

822
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:45,439
Speaker 1: of splitting work and overtaking Ebron. James Washington's obviously still there,

823
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: But any thoughts on the Steelers pass catching corps.

824
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he got a fire up Chase Claypool,

825
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 3: even if he does see a lot of JR Alexander here,

826
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 3: I think they're going to force the issue with him

827
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 3: and James Washington. I think is playable in deeper leagues,

828
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 3: but he didn't show much this week and Firemouth, you know,

829
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 3: his routes run dipped down a thirty three percent, but

830
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 3: he's still you know, posted three catches twenty yards and

831
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 3: a touchdown. So while the playing time's down, it is

832
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 3: encouraging that he's seeing so much volume in his limited

833
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 3: playing time. So if that flips, he could be on

834
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 3: our tight end radar. Probably not quite yet, but Eric Ebron,

835
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 3: he just looks done. You know, he was on the

836
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 3: field sixty percent of time failed to catch a pass.

837
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 3: So I think Friarmuth's stock is heading up. And like

838
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 3: I said last week, you know, I think we both

839
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 3: took the under Naji Harris rushing yards. I just said,

840
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 3: I just don't know how they're going to run the ball.

841
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 3: If anything, they're going to get more you know, involved

842
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 3: in the pass the game. I did not expect what

843
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 3: fourteen catches so man like it's going to be a

844
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 3: checkdown machine right now, it seems like because that's the

845
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 3: only way they can kind of run the ball. So

846
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised if he season increased, well not

847
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 3: increased from last week, but he's a four to five

848
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 3: catch back going forward. Like, I think that usage is

849
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 3: going to be pretty sticky with him going forward.

850
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 1: He can be like an inefficient running version of Alvin Kamara.

851
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much.

852
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, that twelve carries for forty yards for thirty yards

853
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: or twenty yards, but.

854
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 2: Like eight catches, you.

855
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 3: Know that that should be a prop this week? Will

856
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 3: will anybody outside of Naujie Harris or Big Ben I

857
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:23,919
Speaker 3: guess get a rush attempt this week?

858
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 2: Oh yeah no, no, no, was there?

859
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 3: No is minus four hundred? What would you put the lineuph.

860
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 1: I would put it at lower than that because Pittsburgh

861
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,839
Speaker 1: may get blown out by the packt they're playing Aaron

862
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 1: Rodgers that you might not be messing around. I mean

863
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 1: as bad as Pittsburgh just lost the Cincinnati at home.

864
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: Like that's I mean, I know Cincinnati is better and

865
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 1: I've been saying this is dear defense, it's a lot

866
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: better than people think, but that they still lost the

867
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:57,399
Speaker 1: Cincinnati at home and look completely terrible doing it. So yeah,

868
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 1: I'm officially worried about Pittsburgh. Oh and I forgot to

869
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: mention this with San Francisco, but Brandon Ayuk startable again.

870
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,959
Speaker 1: He played eighty six percent of snaps, four catches, thirty

871
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: seven yards a touchdown. Well, it's a returning punts, which

872
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: gives a little extra, little extra upside.

873
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 3: I mean he's probably not who he drafted him quite yet.

874
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 3: I mean he was drafted as a high end wide

875
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 3: receiver to right or like a you know, a mid

876
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 3: low range but he's so he's not there yet, but

877
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 3: I think he's on the wide receiver three flex spectrum

878
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 3: right now. It was encouraging to see, but the production

879
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 3: hasn't been there quite yet. I think it could be

880
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 3: another couple of weeks before you know, we're considering him

881
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,280
Speaker 3: a wide receiver three. But he's a guy I think

882
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 3: you still kind of want to buy low on. I

883
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 3: think he is going to be the alpha in this

884
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 3: offense at some point again, but.

885
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not.

886
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 3: He's not meeting his ADP expectations quite yet. But I

887
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 3: think he's getting there.

888
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he'll he'll he'll get to see you know,

889
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: he'll get snaps on on tray flowers this week, so

890
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: you know that that'll be good for him. You know,

891
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: justin Jefferson had a really good game. Both you know

892
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: that the Seahawks are gonna give up production to wide receivers.

893
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: So I think this is a week where I'm probably

894
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 1: gonna i'd at least flex him if he's not like

895
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: a straight up wide receiver three in the rankings. A

896
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: couple more guys I want to get to at tight end.

897
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 1: Mike get Sicki, you know, we both kind of rode

898
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: him off. It's like unplayable. But then he goes out

899
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 1: and has a ten catch game. So, uh, he's played

900
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: seventy two of the routes per dropback. It's pretty decent

901
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:32,399
Speaker 1: number for tight ends. Indianapolis kind of middle of the pack.

902
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: Their defense hasn't been nearly as good as it was

903
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: last year, so is the sicky back on the streaming

904
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: raider at least you know dfs, you know, tournament radar.

905
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 3: I'm not buying in quite yet. I mean, he's a

906
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 3: very talented pass catching tight end. Just the issue with

907
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 3: the Dolphins is they have so many pass catchers with

908
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 3: not enough you know, yards or targets to go around.

909
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 3: I mean, we saw Jill and Wadell catch but twelve

910
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 3: balls last week, So you know there's gonna be games

911
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 3: where Parker step up, where Will Fuller steps up. He's

912
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 3: just going to be too inconsistent. But then again, we

913
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 3: are talking about streaming tight ends, which you know they're

914
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 3: probably gonna be inconsistent anyway. So just the fact that

915
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 3: Gasicki does have ten catch upside. You know, if if

916
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 3: you're hurting it tight end. Sure he's worth a flyer,

917
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 3: but I just wouldn't expect this week to week with him.

918
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:20,879
Speaker 3: Like I said, just these pass catchers week to week,

919
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 3: they're very tricky to project. So I think, you know,

920
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 3: we're gonna have two guys every week kind of go

921
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 3: off and then you know, two guys kind of take

922
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 3: a back seat, So you know, just plan accordingly.

923
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 2: I mean that's if what will Fuller. I think he

924
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 2: got hurt on on.

925
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 1: Like the very last play, Yeah, trying to catch a touchdown,

926
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 1: which is that's so will for I think he's tore

927
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: his aco on a touchdown catch a couple of years

928
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: ago actually against Miami come to think of it. Wow,

929
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:50,760
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's uh, everything comes full circle for will Fuller.

930
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 1: Uh So yeah, I guess that that was gonna kind

931
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: of be my question. You know, somebody's out there they're

932
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: not getting enough from the tight end. The guys who

933
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,919
Speaker 1: kind of popped this week were Gasicki Dawson Knox, which

934
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: you called, I believe on one of our podcasts was

935
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: a great call. He ran seventy seven percent of the routes,

936
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 1: and you know he was a tight end three last week.

937
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: Very low scoring week for tight ends, but tight end

938
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: three is tight end three. Houston is twenty eighth against

939
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: tight ends. Now, the one concern is the game script

940
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 1: might be one of those things where they don't need

941
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,879
Speaker 1: to throw to the fifth option much, fourth to fifth

942
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 1: option much. But you're kind of looking at Gasiki, you're

943
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,959
Speaker 1: looking at Knox. Maybe you're looking at Tyra Conklin. Seven

944
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 1: catches seventy yards the overall tight end one in Week

945
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: three in that game against Cleveland. Ay ween to tour

946
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: any one of those guys in particular.

947
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 3: Wait, so, Dawson Knox was tight end three last week

948
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 3: with four catches forty nine yards in a touchdown. That's

949
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 3: all it took.

950
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 1: Dallas Goddard, zach Ertz, Dalton Schultz, and Blake Jarwin haven't

951
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: played yet, but as of the yet.

952
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 3: I doubt any of them. Well, yeah, I guess one

953
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 3: of them could beat that line, huh So yeah, I

954
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 3: mean yeah, for four of them, I think they realizes

955
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 3: that bud of a week of t.

956
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a bad I mean TJ. Hockinson did nothing.

957
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 1: You had Andrews go off. Uh.

958
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 2: I think had a decent week Kelsey, but that was like.

959
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 3: It yeah, so yeah, Waller struggled surprisingly, but yeah, Knox

960
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,879
Speaker 3: he was my chica last week because I said, if

961
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 3: he's able to maintain this sort of usage on a

962
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 3: passing team like the Bills, we're gonna be very interested

963
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 3: in him. And so he's getting this playing time in

964
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 3: expense of Gabe Davis. You know, you kind of said

965
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 3: last week that they're playing more eleven personnel.

966
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 2: So better that in that formation. I guess, yeah, so that.

967
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 3: I mean, this is a two week trend now, so

968
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 3: we're we're very interested in Dawson Knox, So I think

969
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 3: he's playable this week. His ceiling is probably everybody's ceiling

970
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 3: is probably capped against the Texans. You know, this is

971
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 3: gonna be a blowout most likely, so that that does

972
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 3: cap his upside here. But again we're talking about the

973
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 3: Titans streaming tier, which is just a ship show. So

974
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 3: I think he's he's worth a flyer. Conklin probably not

975
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 3: so much. I think we're gonna see, you know, him

976
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 3: and kJ Osborne sort of rotate who the number three

977
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 3: target is week to week. This week it was Conklin,

978
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 3: next week it might be Osborne. So I think Conklin's

979
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 3: probably going to be a little bit too inconsistent to

980
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:05,240
Speaker 3: trust going forward.

981
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 1: I'll end it with this little pop quiz for you,

982
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 1: so you know Conklin tight end one, Kelsey Sicki Kittle,

983
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: Mark Andrews knocks with the he was actually the Titan

984
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 1: six I said, I think I said three.

985
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 2: He was titaned six.

986
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 1: Sorry, Higbee and Logan Thomas, those are the top eight.

987
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 1: Guess who is a tighten nine this week so far?

988
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 1: Jacob Hollister, Oh, that was a good guess for sixty.

989
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, he.

990
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: Played a bunch of snatch. But no, it was Tommy Tremble.

991
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, because he got that touchdown. Hey, is is

992
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:43,359
Speaker 3: he going to be the guy to pick up now

993
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 3: that they got rid of your boy, Dan Arnold? Or

994
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 3: is it Thomas? Like who do you think is going

995
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 3: to be the leading tight end now in that Like

996
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 3: it's gonna be a night murder project. I don't even

997
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 3: want to think about it.

998
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 2: Forgot, I asked. I wouldn't say.

999
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 1: I would say it might be because the thing about

1000
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 1: Ian Thomas is he's like the Andre Patton or like

1001
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: of of tight ends.

1002
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 2: Like he just runs wins. He's just out there running routes.

1003
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 2: He just targeted.

1004
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 3: That's why I'm thinking that this could be the window

1005
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 3: for Terrence Marshall to break out. You know, he would

1006
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 3: be sort of the Curtise Samuel Rolf from last year.

1007
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 3: We're in Thomas is running eighty percent of the routes

1008
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:28,919
Speaker 3: and he sees one target. Christian McCaffrey's out. So yeah,

1009
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 3: I'm certain to think this might be the week that

1010
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 3: Terrence Marshall blows up.

1011
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 2: How do you feel about that trade? Ridiculous? Bisbel urban Meyer.

1012
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, that it was pretty bad. So Jon Jacon

1013
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 3: is going to be out for a.

1014
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 2: While, right, I hate it for the Jaguars give up

1015
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:47,399
Speaker 2: on Henderson? All right?

1016
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 3: Tim Tebow another chance?

1017
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, And like like is again, like I'm

1018
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:53,879
Speaker 2: we know.

1019
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: We're Dan Arnold fans on this podcast, but like Dan Arnold,

1020
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: is there really a difference between like Dan Arnold and

1021
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: Jacob Hollis there no j I want to see and

1022
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 1: like whoever they.

1023
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 2: Could come on?

1024
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:09,280
Speaker 3: Arnold's not playing this week, right, I don't play football,

1025
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,359
Speaker 3: so I think Jacob Holster might be a sneaky play

1026
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 3: in DFS. I'm hoping Arnold doesn't suit up, but they

1027
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,320
Speaker 3: were gonna get James O'Shaughnessy back in a couple weeks. Anyway,

1028
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 3: why are we even talking about this? It was a

1029
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 3: it was a dumb, dumb trade. Yeah, like there's no

1030
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 3: reason for it.

1031
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 2: Right against the spread still has the feel bad.

1032
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 3: For Stucky, Yeah for taking I mean, you had to

1033
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 3: play in this week, but I'm with you. I am

1034
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 3: not betting on them until I see some.

1035
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 2: You didn't have to play them. Why did everyone keep

1036
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,320
Speaker 2: saying that you just don't You didn't have to bet

1037
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 2: on the jag?

1038
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 1: Was like no one said don't put a gun to

1039
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: your head and said, like you could not bet the game.

1040
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: And it's like even if you're if you're picking in

1041
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: a contest, so like you have to pick every game anyway,

1042
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 1: every game only counts, you know what, Like.

1043
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,800
Speaker 2: Why would you pick arban Meyer? Like there's no reason.

1044
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 2: Too bad on urban Meyer right now?

1045
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 3: How like none forget about urban Meyer for a second.

1046
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,879
Speaker 3: How concerned are you with Trevor Lawrence so far?

1047
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 1: Oh? I mean that this this that's gonna be too

1048
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 1: long of a podcast. But I would say I am.

1049
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:21,280
Speaker 1: I am concerned because only because of urban Meyer, because

1050
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: I am confident that they are not developing him based

1051
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: on the other decisions that urban Meyer has made since

1052
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 1: taking over this franchise, and based on the control that

1053
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 1: he has of this franchise, I'm pretty convinced that he's

1054
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 1: just not built for this at least, or he's not

1055
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 1: good at this right now.

1056
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 2: And I don't know how long it's gonna take.

1057
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 1: And in the NFL, you don't get time like that,

1058
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 1: and they always they always say, hey, quarterbacks, you could

1059
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 1: get bad habits. You can you know, That's why there

1060
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: Shanahan is even though it's probably not the best idea.

1061
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 1: He's sitting Trey Lance, you know, that's why Matt Naggie

1062
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:03,240
Speaker 1: wants to sit justin fields.

1063
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 2: We're seeing some of that.

1064
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 1: So it's like the fact that they're throwing Lawrence into

1065
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: the fire, but in this type of environment and they're

1066
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 1: just acquiring all these random veteran guys and trading away

1067
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 1: promising young cornerbacks like which you're just hurting the defense

1068
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 1: really like there's just nothing about this says like we're

1069
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,800
Speaker 1: we're giving this guy the best chance to succeed.

1070
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 2: So I am, actually, where what do you think?

1071
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 3: He's looked really bad and that interception through early in

1072
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 3: the game is really bad. Marvin Jones. You know, he

1073
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 3: stopped kind of in the spar of the defense and

1074
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,359
Speaker 3: then Trevor Lawrence led him throw right to the guy,

1075
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 3: Josh Hermsmeyer. I love this tweet from last week. The

1076
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,919
Speaker 3: highest off target throw rate in the NFL through two

1077
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Speaker 3: weeks of play since two thousand and nine. Trevor Lawrence

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Speaker 3: is number one thirty five percent off target throw er.

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Speaker 3: I need to look and see how you did this week.

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Speaker 3: Number two is Tim Tebow at thirty four point four

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Speaker 3: percent and number three with Seneca Walas at thirty four

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Speaker 3: point five percent. That's not urban Meyer's fault, that's Trevor

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Speaker 3: Lawrence's fault. So that's not good. I still think he's

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Speaker 3: a generational talent, but yeah, maybe with the coaching just

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Speaker 3: he's not ready. It's been very concerning, to say the least.

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Speaker 1: But the thing about it is urban Meyer reportedly has

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Speaker 1: been like a dick to his older, to his other coaches.

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Speaker 1: So like that's why, because it's like it's not the

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Speaker 1: it's not the head coach's job to coach Trevor Lawrence,

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Speaker 1: but it is the quarterback coaches job. You know, it

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Speaker 1: is the offensive coordinator's job. And if if they're stressed

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Speaker 1: out and they're they hate their jobs.

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Speaker 2: And then that.

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Speaker 1: Extends to the locker room where a guy like Marvin Jones,

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Speaker 1: he could you know, he's a veteran, he's been there,

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Speaker 1: done that, proved himself.

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Speaker 2: He might stop giving a fuck, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 2: And it's like.

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Speaker 1: Then you're trading away these young guys like it's like, hopefully.

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Speaker 3: Hopefully they just fire Meyer any coaches USC. I would

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Speaker 3: love to.

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Speaker 2: See that at plus five thousand.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, no, I mean to be the only thing

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Speaker 1: I'll say in fairness is all the rookie quarterbacks have

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Speaker 1: say for Trey Lance and Mac Jones at times, but

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Speaker 1: they've all looked pretty bad.

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Speaker 2: So yep, I'm gonna do it. That is gonna do it.

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Speaker 2: We just way too much.

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Talk Our producer Matt Mitchell is probably gonna cut

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