WEBVTT - The Truth with Lisa Boothe: A Conversation with Senator Marco Rubio 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:03.720 We saw thousands of pro life Americans gather in our 0:00:03.800 --> 0:00:07.400 nation's capital for the annual March for Life. This comes 0:00:07.520 --> 0:00:11.880 as we are approaching the anniversary of Rovers Wade, and 0:00:11.960 --> 0:00:15.280 we know that Democrats are going to make abortion a 0:00:15.320 --> 0:00:18.640 big issue heading into the presidential election. We saw them 0:00:18.680 --> 0:00:22.320 do it successfully to some degree in the midterm elections. 0:00:22.600 --> 0:00:25.560 So we have to figure out a way as Republicans 0:00:25.560 --> 0:00:28.120 to go on the offense to talk about being pro 0:00:28.200 --> 0:00:30.400 life proudly. I want you to take a listen to 0:00:30.440 --> 0:00:31.000 this interview. 0:00:31.400 --> 0:00:34.760 Why do you not see rape and incest as areas 0:00:34.920 --> 0:00:36.800 for potential carve outs even if you are. 0:00:36.720 --> 0:00:37.680 Pro life first? 0:00:37.800 --> 0:00:40.800 I think both of those instances are horrifying, and fortunately 0:00:40.800 --> 0:00:44.320 they're extremely rare. It happens, and anytime it happens, it's horrifying. 0:00:44.360 --> 0:00:45.120 It's a tragedy. 0:00:45.400 --> 0:00:48.599 But I personally and honestly and deeply believe that all 0:00:48.680 --> 0:00:52.040 human life is worthy of protection, irrespective of the circumstances 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:54.320 in which that human life was created. So what we're 0:00:54.400 --> 0:00:57.080 faith in it so well, they can't say that it 0:00:57.080 --> 0:00:58.480 will be human life, what would it become? 0:00:58.520 --> 0:00:59.360 Then you're trying to. 0:00:59.280 --> 0:01:02.960 Become potential of it when it is an actual human being. 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:05.160 I'm not saying what my position is on it that 0:01:05.240 --> 0:01:06.320 I am also a Catholic. 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:07.319 What I'm telling you is. 0:01:07.319 --> 0:01:09.280 I can tell you this, No, I can tell you this, 0:01:09.440 --> 0:01:11.640 that every single one of us started at that same stage. 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:13.600 That it can't become anything other than a human. But 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:15.720 it is about and that scien. It's neither up to 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:18.280 you nor I know any politicians to decide that we're 0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:19.880 going to allow this life to move forward. 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:20.679 In this life, not to. 0:01:20.840 --> 0:01:24.600 That Senator Mark Rubio from years ago in an interview 0:01:24.600 --> 0:01:27.000 with CNN. I think it's one of the best interviews 0:01:27.040 --> 0:01:30.399 I've heard to date of someone proudly standing for their 0:01:30.440 --> 0:01:33.040 pro life views. So we're going to have Senator Mark 0:01:33.160 --> 0:01:35.640 Rubio on the show today to talk to him about 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:39.520 how should Republicans message on this issue, What should the 0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:42.560 message be heading into the presidential election. We're also going 0:01:42.600 --> 0:01:45.200 to get his take on all things foreign policy. As 0:01:45.360 --> 0:01:48.800 instability continues to increase in the Middle East, particularly as 0:01:48.800 --> 0:01:52.280 we see Pakistan and Iran conducting strikes on each other, 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:54.760 Why are they doing that? How concerned should you be? 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:58.360 We'll also talk about China, Iran, and Russia growing closer 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:02.080 under President Biden. What does that mean for our future 0:02:02.200 --> 0:02:05.400 in the future of the world. He recently endorsed President Trump, 0:02:05.440 --> 0:02:07.320 so we'll talk to him about why he decided to 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:11.079 do that and what he's looking for this presidential election. 0:02:11.440 --> 0:02:13.960 So all of that and so much more with Senator 0:02:14.040 --> 0:02:17.239 Mark Rubio from my home state of Florida. Stay tuned. 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:22.280 Well. 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:25.280 Senator Mark Rubio, it's awesome to have you on the show, 0:02:25.360 --> 0:02:28.360 particularly as a well I've been in Florida for I 0:02:28.360 --> 0:02:30.840 guess three and a half years, so a newer Florida, 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:34.200 and so it's great to have my home state senator 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:35.760 on the show. So appreciate you making the time. 0:02:36.200 --> 0:02:37.000 I'm glad to do it. 0:02:37.040 --> 0:02:40.160 We were talking before we got started about how I've 0:02:40.160 --> 0:02:43.480 gotten really soft with the weather. We've we've had a 0:02:43.480 --> 0:02:46.800 cold front here in Miami and you know, it's like 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:49.640 sixty degrees now, I put a turtleneck on, so I. 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:51.919 Know, I know it's you know, every now and then 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:53.799 we'll get like one of these weird things that come 0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:55.800 down and I'll get to like the twenties or the thirties, 0:02:55.840 --> 0:02:59.520 but it's very rare, but you will, yeah, fifty or whatever. 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:02.400 It's you know, people start like bringing out for coats 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:05.079 and you know, thermal underwear and all that kind of stuff. 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:07.360 It isn't cold until the iguanas. 0:03:07.560 --> 0:03:09.320 I don't know if you've seen that phenomena yet, but 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:11.560 at a certain temperature, like iguanas fall out of the 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:12.840 trees because they're cold. 0:03:12.600 --> 0:03:16.400 Blooded and they can't regulate. And I don't know, have you 0:03:16.440 --> 0:03:17.120 seen that yet. 0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:19.800 Yeah, I read an article and it said that, I 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:23.200 guess there's been stories where people have collected them and 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:25.600 like put them in their cars and then they've woken 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:27.600 up and like attacked or something. 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:29.840 So they wake up. 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:34.480 Yeah, So leave the iguanas alone. Important lesson. All right, Well, 0:03:34.920 --> 0:03:38.080 well we'll get into the bigger news, you know, outside 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:40.560 of an iguana's you know center. We're coming up on 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:44.360 the anniversary of Roe versus Wade. You know, I rewatched 0:03:44.400 --> 0:03:46.680 your CNN interview on abortion. I think it was from 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:50.400 like eight years ago before this morning, you know, before 0:03:50.400 --> 0:03:52.920 interviewing you. I think it was one of the best 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:57.040 interviews I've seen from a Republican to date on the issue. 0:03:57.520 --> 0:04:01.240 Why why do you think Republicans struggle so much on 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:04.600 talking about pro life and talking about this issue? 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:07.760 Well, I think in general, anytime you're on defense, you're losing, 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:10.120 and a lot of times, you know, I always go 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:11.640 to people and say, all right, well. 0:04:11.680 --> 0:04:13.000 There's two things that we need to point to. 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:15.560 The first is that if you don't believe that, if 0:04:15.560 --> 0:04:18.359 you's believe that abortion should be legal, then what restrictions 0:04:18.400 --> 0:04:20.520 would you agree to? No one ever asked that question. 0:04:20.560 --> 0:04:23.359 The media doesn't ask that question, and most Democrats are 0:04:23.400 --> 0:04:26.240 never asked a question of what restrictions would you support? 0:04:26.520 --> 0:04:29.279 Because they love to talk about total ban, six week bands, 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:31.360 fifteen week bands. What they won't tell you is that 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:33.360 in order to get the endorsement of all of these 0:04:33.440 --> 0:04:36.679 pro abortion groups, you have to basically be for abortion 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:40.839 at any time, for any reason, paid for by taxpayers. 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:43.560 I mean that in essence is the position of these groups. 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:47.960 And you can't get the endorsement of any of these 0:04:47.960 --> 0:04:49.480 probortion groups if you don't say that stuff. 0:04:49.520 --> 0:04:50.040 And no one ever. 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:52.520 Challenges these people on that, will they at least agree 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:55.839 on a restriction of some kind because the overwhelming majority 0:04:55.880 --> 0:04:58.200 of Americans, even those who say the support abortion rights, 0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:00.719 will say, but there's got there's some right you can't 0:05:00.720 --> 0:05:02.480 do it like the day before the do date or 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:03.599 eight months or what have you. 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:06.000 So, I think the first part about it is that, 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:08.440 and I think the second challenge. 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:10.760 That we face is, Look, this is not about passing 0:05:10.880 --> 0:05:11.760 judgment on anyone. 0:05:11.800 --> 0:05:15.400 This is not about trying to impose anything on anyone. 0:05:15.480 --> 0:05:17.560 This is a pretty straightforward choice. And that is we've 0:05:17.560 --> 0:05:20.400 got a complicated issue here. You have, oftentimes in a 0:05:20.520 --> 0:05:25.160 very difficult circumstances that a woman is facing, and then 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:27.840 you've got the fundamental right to live, and you've got 0:05:27.839 --> 0:05:30.040 to balance and decide, Okay, when these two things are 0:05:30.040 --> 0:05:32.320 in conflict, which one of these two rights wins out. 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:34.560 And I don't have any shame in saying that, I 0:05:34.640 --> 0:05:37.839 think the right to live needs to win out. Now, 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:40.080 in addition to that, I think we have to understand 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:44.279 that when it comes to abortion, the pro choice people 0:05:44.320 --> 0:05:46.720 are actually not pro choice because what they are basically 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:49.080 arguing is that for most people, abortion is the only 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:53.360 choice that they're presented, and oftentimes by making it look 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:57.480 like or making it sound like, or making it, you know, 0:05:57.960 --> 0:06:01.080 creating the scenario where a child to somehow a burden, 0:06:01.200 --> 0:06:04.039 somehow a terrible thing that's happening. And so I do 0:06:04.120 --> 0:06:07.080 think those of us who are pro life, it's incumbent 0:06:07.160 --> 0:06:08.760 upon us to say, not only do we think you 0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:10.680 have a right to choose not to have an abortion, 0:06:10.800 --> 0:06:12.760 but we need to recognize that no child should ever 0:06:12.839 --> 0:06:15.719 be considered a burden, should be considered a bad situation, 0:06:15.800 --> 0:06:17.440 and we need to be supportive of people who find 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:20.000 themselves in those circumstances. You know, what can we do 0:06:20.040 --> 0:06:23.080 to ensure that these men that are fathering children are 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:25.400 living up to their responsibility on child support and not 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:27.080 just taking off? You know, what are we doing if 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:29.360 a young woman is in college and wants to finish 0:06:29.400 --> 0:06:29.960 your schooling? 0:06:29.960 --> 0:06:30.680 To be supportive. 0:06:30.800 --> 0:06:33.680 We need to be supportive of people not just when 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:35.960 they decide not to have an abortion, but also all 0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:37.000 the things that come with it. 0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:40.080 Yeah, you know, I loved how, you know, because he 0:06:40.160 --> 0:06:44.520 was basically saying arguing about when life begins and you're like, well, 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:46.560 what do you think it turns into a cat? You know, 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:50.680 it's like it seems like such common sense, yet we 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:55.520 have found ourselves in this strange, you know, conversation about 0:06:55.520 --> 0:06:59.039 what is a life? And you know, it used to 0:06:59.040 --> 0:07:01.359 be safe, legal and rare, and now it's like up 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:03.800 until the moment of birth, maybe even you know, it's like, 0:07:04.120 --> 0:07:06.040 how did we get here? You know, how did the 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:07.000 left get here? 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:09.840 More specifically, Well, I think part of it too is 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:12.240 that in order to justify something like this, you have 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:15.680 to It's what all atrocities and terrible things are based on, 0:07:15.720 --> 0:07:17.160 and that is dehumanization, right. 0:07:17.240 --> 0:07:19.760 You have to convince people that the life and who's 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:22.560 being impacted is that actually not human or not fully human? 0:07:23.000 --> 0:07:25.040 And so I think that's the argument that's used. 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:25.520 By a lot of these geops. 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:27.720 So that's not really a human being, that's just a 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:30.520 clump of cells, that's an embryo, that's a fetus, but 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:32.560 it's not a human being. And I think the point 0:07:32.560 --> 0:07:34.320 I was making is that's the only thing that that 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:36.640 can ultimately become. And then their argument as well, but 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:39.920 they can't survive on their own. And so while there 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:41.640 are a lot of people who are outside the womb 0:07:41.680 --> 0:07:42.840 that could not survive on their own. 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:45.280 Infants cannot survive on their own, Many. 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:49.280 People who unfortunately face disabilities and other serious setbacks, cannot 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:52.160 survive on their own without helping assistance. Are they less 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:54.520 than alive? Are we prepared to say that's not a life? 0:07:54.600 --> 0:07:56.600 So there's a huge slippery slope there as well. But 0:07:56.920 --> 0:07:59.280 ultimately it comes down to in order to justify something 0:07:59.360 --> 0:08:01.040 like this, you have to be able to argue that 0:08:01.040 --> 0:08:03.720 that's not human life, and that's something that needs to 0:08:03.760 --> 0:08:06.280 be called out as well. That's exactly what it is, 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:08.960 a development, no matter what stage of development they're in. Look, 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:10.640 it's a tough issue. I get it, because I mean, 0:08:10.680 --> 0:08:13.760 the circumstances oftentimes that are faced by people are very 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:16.120 difficult ones. You shouldn't pretend that these are easy choices, 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:18.320 but we have to get people real choices, including the 0:08:18.400 --> 0:08:22.760 choice of carrying a child without having seem or feel 0:08:22.800 --> 0:08:25.360 like a burden, which is what oftentimes people are being 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:26.920 told that this is going to be an enormous burden, 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:28.720 it's going to ruin your life, and we need to 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:29.720 change that dynamic. 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:32.839 You know, I think you really nailed it about the dehumanization, 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:34.920 which is why they call it a clump of cells. 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:37.520 If you sort of detached the human aspect of it, 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:40.840 then it's easier to go through with one you know, yeah, 0:08:40.920 --> 0:08:44.120 oh absolutely. You know Democrats have obviously made this a 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:46.200 big issue during the midterms. You know, they did that 0:08:46.200 --> 0:08:49.000 with the leak of the Dobbs opinion as well. Draft 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:52.680 as well as the Supreme Court's decision really galvanized young 0:08:52.720 --> 0:08:55.320 people women to turn out. We're already seeing Democrats gear 0:08:55.400 --> 0:08:57.920 up on this issue. You know. They launched a website 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:01.679 targeting Republicans, you know, heading into Row versus Wade anniversary. 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:05.480 They've also been successful in getting ballot measures here in Florida. 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:07.360 It'll be on the ballot in twenty twenty four. They 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:10.920 were successful in Ohio last November. How do you think 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:14.200 this issue will shape the presidential election? 0:09:14.960 --> 0:09:15.679 You know, I don't know. 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:18.880 To me, it's a tough one to analyze politically because 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:20.520 I've never viewed this as a political issue. 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:22.160 I said this before, and I really believe it. 0:09:22.200 --> 0:09:24.320 I think it's such a fundamental core issue that I'd 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:28.079 rather be right on abortion and lose than be wrong 0:09:28.120 --> 0:09:30.000 on it and win, because I just think it's that 0:09:30.040 --> 0:09:33.440 fundamental of an issue in terms of protecting human life 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:35.040 and where it's going to lead us as a society. 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:35.679 Ultimately. 0:09:36.480 --> 0:09:37.800 I think it's clear that there are a lot of 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:41.959 people that are uncomfortable with government telling them what to do. 0:09:42.080 --> 0:09:44.240 In general, they were uncomfortable when government was telling them 0:09:44.280 --> 0:09:46.160 what to do to the pandemic, and in a situation 0:09:46.280 --> 0:09:49.040 like this, they're uncomfortable as well. But when you're playing defense, 0:09:49.080 --> 0:09:53.040 when you're allowing your opponents to portray this as people 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:55.000 wanting to tell people what to do with their bodies, 0:09:55.040 --> 0:09:57.120 that's not the way I view it. I do not 0:09:57.240 --> 0:10:00.640 go into the saying, how can I control the decisions 0:10:00.679 --> 0:10:03.600 people make, women make, and so forth about pregnancies. What 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:06.920 I go into the saying is we have an obligation 0:10:07.000 --> 0:10:09.680 to protect human life. I view it from the lens 0:10:09.760 --> 0:10:12.800 and the perspective of the unborn human being, not the 0:10:13.600 --> 0:10:15.840 perspective of controlling people. So I think that part of 0:10:15.880 --> 0:10:19.280 the dynamic is explaining to people that if they don't 0:10:19.280 --> 0:10:20.720 want a six week man or they don't want a 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:22.959 fifteen week or twenty one or whatever it is, what 0:10:23.920 --> 0:10:27.480 restrictions would they support, Because they will never tell you. 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:29.760 What restrictions they support. They never will say it. 0:10:30.000 --> 0:10:31.520 And there's a reason why, and that is that the 0:10:31.559 --> 0:10:34.439 official position of the left, and they're never called out 0:10:34.480 --> 0:10:37.920 on it, is abortion on demand for any reason, and 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:39.439 frank and paid for by taxpayers. 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:41.640 Let's take a quick commercial break more with Center or 0:10:41.679 --> 0:10:46.600 Reveal on the other side before we move on. Should 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:50.120 Republicans have a unified message on this, and if so, 0:10:50.160 --> 0:10:50.800 what should it be. 0:10:51.040 --> 0:10:52.480 Well, I don't know if something like this you can 0:10:52.520 --> 0:10:53.520 have a unified mession. 0:10:53.520 --> 0:10:55.320 The truth of the matter is that you have people 0:10:55.320 --> 0:10:57.920 that have different This is not an issue that's from 0:10:57.920 --> 0:10:59.480 a political standpoint black and white. 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:01.959 There are people that are in favor of a fifteen. 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:04.360 Week ban or twenty one week or whatever it may be, 0:11:05.120 --> 0:11:07.839 or a band but with exceptions. So there's a wide 0:11:07.880 --> 0:11:12.000 variety of flavors here and viewpoints. And if you want 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:14.520 to be a majority party of people that agree on 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:16.760 a bunch of stuff but maybe have some differences of 0:11:16.800 --> 0:11:19.760 opinion as to how far these restrictions should go, then 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:20.880 you've got to accommodate that. 0:11:20.880 --> 0:11:22.360 So don't know if we'll ever have a unified message. 0:11:22.360 --> 0:11:25.000 What I think we should be unified in is to 0:11:25.160 --> 0:11:28.200 unapologetically say, ultimately, look, abortion is not a good thing. 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:30.280 Whether your pro life or protrays, we should agree that 0:11:30.320 --> 0:11:32.839 abortions are not therapeutic, they are not a good thing. 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:36.640 They are not a cost for celebration, and irrespective of 0:11:36.679 --> 0:11:38.360 how you view it, we should all recognize that it 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:40.400 is a tragic thing. And I think we should also 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:43.080 recognize that we're talking about here is the choice between 0:11:43.240 --> 0:11:46.520 protecting an unborn human life and the right of people 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:48.880 of women to control what happens with their body. And 0:11:48.880 --> 0:11:50.760 that's the choice we're trying to make here and to 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:53.199 balance that, and that I think is something. And the 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:55.560 third thing we should be unified in is, no matter 0:11:55.559 --> 0:11:59.360 how you feel about abortion specific abortion restrictions, there has 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:01.880 to be some restrict there has to be some limitation. Right, 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:05.440 We're not otherwise we're dealing with in fanticide. What is 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:08.120 that limitation? We should all be unified in at least 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:11.679 demanding that those who are against us detail what it 0:12:11.720 --> 0:12:13.839 is they would support as far as the limitation. And 0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:16.640 we don't do that enough. We never challenge or point 0:12:16.679 --> 0:12:18.280 to the media and say, you know, all answer your 0:12:18.320 --> 0:12:20.880 questions on this when you ask them what they're what 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:23.680 they're in favor of, what restriction they would support, because 0:12:23.679 --> 0:12:24.840 they won't support any restriction. 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:26.520 They will never tell you what restriction they're for. 0:12:27.800 --> 0:12:30.600 You know, Senator, I want to move on to foreign policy. 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:32.760 I know it's a you know, you're very passionate about it, 0:12:32.960 --> 0:12:34.400 and I want to we want to hear from you 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:38.160 on a bunch of these different issues. You know, turning 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:40.000 to the war in the Middle East. You know, President 0:12:40.000 --> 0:12:44.320 Biden is redesignated or is going to redesignate Yemen's or 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:47.400 on back who THEES is a terrorist group? He removed 0:12:47.440 --> 0:12:51.080 them three years ago from the Foreign Terrorist Organization's list. 0:12:51.440 --> 0:12:53.319 Why did he do that in the first place, and 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:56.520 what does that tell you about this administration's foreign policy. 0:12:57.040 --> 0:12:59.439 Well, there's a line of thinking in American politics that 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:02.120 was clear in the Obama years. I think there's holdovers 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:05.080 of that in the Biden years as well, and generally 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:07.160 along the West, and that is that America is generally 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:07.720 always wrong. 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:08.400 America is bad. 0:13:08.440 --> 0:13:10.800 America is a source of problems in the world, and 0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:13.560 so we need to be apologetic about it, and we 0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:16.120 need to be accommodating. And so this idea that somehow, 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:18.480 you know, if we're just nicer, if we would just 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:21.120 admit that we've made mistakes, if we would just try 0:13:21.120 --> 0:13:24.520 to create space and accommodate enemies and people who have 0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:26.520 fundamentally different views of what they want the world to 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:28.319 look like, that they're going to like us more and 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:30.240 they're going to behave better And I think that was 0:13:30.280 --> 0:13:32.000 part of the and I think the other part of it, 0:13:32.000 --> 0:13:34.280 frankly is the Biden administration went in with a very 0:13:34.280 --> 0:13:36.640 clear mandate that is, whatever Trump was for, we need 0:13:36.640 --> 0:13:38.840 to be against. Even if it made sense if he 0:13:38.920 --> 0:13:40.679 did it, we have to be the opposite of it. 0:13:41.040 --> 0:13:43.840 So I think it really begins with that. And so 0:13:43.880 --> 0:13:46.720 they've made these decisions. It's project weakness and so, but 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:49.280 we live in the real world, not governed by people 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:51.199 that have these sort of guilt trips, but rather by 0:13:51.200 --> 0:13:53.520 people that are interested in that are focused on their 0:13:53.600 --> 0:13:56.040 national interest and ambitions, and they're going to act in 0:13:56.080 --> 0:13:58.720 their national interests and in furtherance of their ambitions, whether 0:13:58.760 --> 0:14:01.680 it's the Hussies or Iran, North Korea, or Vladimir Putin 0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:03.120 and especially the Chinese. 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:04.880 They don't care about all this other stuff. 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:07.000 They're not interested, and they don't care about public opinion 0:14:07.120 --> 0:14:10.120 or being popular at Davos. And what they care about 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:11.960 is what is in the interest of our country or 0:14:11.960 --> 0:14:13.880 our movement, and we're going to do whatever it takes 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:14.559 to further that. 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:16.920 And so we hit that reality. And so, yeah, the 0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:19.040 whusis this is basically a band. 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:22.680 Of pirates who now have pretty sophisticated weapons provided to 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:25.480 them by Iran, and they now have the ability to 0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:29.960 target commercial shipping, which poses the risk now of inflating 0:14:30.000 --> 0:14:32.080 prices all over the world and disrupting the flow of 0:14:32.200 --> 0:14:35.400 energy and the like. And it's interesting, you know, we 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:39.240 are conducting military operations against the who's these because they're 0:14:39.280 --> 0:14:42.680 threatened to blow up oil tankers. But I thought the 0:14:42.760 --> 0:14:45.280 Biden administration said we don't really need oil anymore. 0:14:45.320 --> 0:14:46.800 We should now rely on renewables. 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:49.360 So, you know, I don't know why they are basically 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:52.400 protecting sources of global energy that they say are bad 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:54.560 for the world and that we don't need any more of. 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:57.280 So it just points to the hypocrisy of they know 0:14:57.400 --> 0:14:58.960 we need more energy. That's why that's one of the 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:01.280 reasons why we're involved in protecting those shipping lengths, because 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:04.400 of what it would mean to world energy prices. But 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:08.400 I think this projection of weakness is an invitation for aggression. 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:10.720 It always has been. That's human nature. That's been true 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:13.560 throughout the fifty five hundred years of recorded history. And 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:14.920 then we're seeing it again now. 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:17.320 Well, you know, and we're seeing a lot of aggression 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:19.880 in the Middle East. I mean, we've got Israel rightfully 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:23.800 waging a war against hamas after you know, those atrocities, 0:15:23.840 --> 0:15:27.880 the terror attacks. Now we've got Pakistan at Iran conducting 0:15:28.040 --> 0:15:31.920 strikes on each other in an unprecedented way. Why is 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:34.920 that happening and what are you watching for between those 0:15:34.960 --> 0:15:37.880 two countries and what are the concerns that this could 0:15:37.920 --> 0:15:40.040 spill out to a broader regional war. 0:15:40.360 --> 0:15:42.480 Well, that's going to be a long It's kind of complicated. 0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:44.640 First of all, it is ironic. You know that Iran 0:15:45.160 --> 0:15:48.600 had an attack conducted inside of Iran out of ceremony, 0:15:48.680 --> 0:15:52.320 to a remembrance of the criminal solomony, and it was 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:53.320 conducted by ISIS. 0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:54.400 So now Iran is. 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:59.560 Striking ISIS inside of Syria or Iraq and also in 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:02.040 places where they might be hiding out in Pakistan. 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:04.720 So we are all to enemies of ISIS, you know. 0:16:04.840 --> 0:16:07.080 And we have troops a. 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:09.360 Small number that remain in Iraq and in Syria to 0:16:09.400 --> 0:16:10.880 prevent a resurgence of ISIS. 0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:13.479 But the groups that are on supports. 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:15.080 In those countries are attacking those troops that are there 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:17.720 attacking ISIS, while ISIS is attacking Iran, and Iran is 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:21.400 attacking ISIS back. So it is a complicated mess of 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:25.280 a situation in our hands. And the other thing that 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:27.280 I think is really eventful this week is a bunch 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:30.320 of people on the left going crazy because Nanyahu said, oh, we're. 0:16:30.200 --> 0:16:32.440 Not going to have a Palestinian state after this is over. 0:16:32.360 --> 0:16:35.040 Look in a perfect world, in an ideal world, there 0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:37.000 would be an accommodation of some sort. I think that 0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:40.280 was and it's been something Israel's attempted multiple times. Here's 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:43.960 the reality. Who would govern a Palestinian state? Because right now, 0:16:44.000 --> 0:16:46.600 the two groups that claim to speak for Palestinians, the 0:16:46.720 --> 0:16:52.080 Palestinian authority in Juday and Samaria and Hamas and Godza, 0:16:52.120 --> 0:16:55.040 are both groups that teach little children that Jews are 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:57.560 evil and that killing them is glorious. And in the 0:16:57.560 --> 0:16:59.880 case of Hamas, we've just seen the terrorist attacks they 0:16:59.880 --> 0:17:02.840 can inducted. So how could any nation possibly be asked 0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:05.840 to endorse the creation of a neighboring state that will 0:17:05.840 --> 0:17:08.920 be governed by people who want to kill them as 0:17:09.000 --> 0:17:12.040 their open stated goal. That is an unrealistic expectation. 0:17:12.240 --> 0:17:12.400 Now. 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:14.640 Maybe one hundred years from now, maybe fifty years from now, 0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:15.640 the conditions. 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:17.760 Will be different, but right now it is unrealistic. 0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:21.160 Frankly, it is reckless to talk about turning over territory 0:17:21.200 --> 0:17:24.000 and standing up a nation state governed by people that 0:17:24.080 --> 0:17:26.640