WEBVTT - The Karol Markowicz Show: Unwoke with Senator Ted Cruz

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, and welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you single and don't want to be? Here's your

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<v Speaker 1>new Year's resolution? Stop texting. Look, I despise talking on

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<v Speaker 1>the phone. I don't have voicemail. I don't listen to

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<v Speaker 1>voice notes. I'm a texter all the way. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't listen to voice notes. Do not send me

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<v Speaker 1>voice notes. They will never be heard. Don't do it.

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe I'm a hypocrite. But I can afford to

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<v Speaker 1>be a hypocrite because I'm not on the dating scene.

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<v Speaker 1>I can limit all of my conversations with my husband

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<v Speaker 1>to text. Buy milk kid is sick because there's very

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<v Speaker 1>little for us to misunderstand, and more important, at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the day, we have face to face conversations.

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<v Speaker 1>Studies have actually found that too much texting, even when

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<v Speaker 1>you're already in a relationship, isn't healthy. Either quick I

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<v Speaker 1>Love you or scheduling text are fine, even positive, but

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<v Speaker 1>any attempt to conduct serious conversations via text quickly leads

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<v Speaker 1>to lower relationship quality. It's obvious why texting is divorced

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<v Speaker 1>from tone and can lead to misinterpretation. Was that a

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<v Speaker 1>joke or is my boyfriend a jerk? What does that

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<v Speaker 1>emoji convey? Texting blurs intent. For example, you know young

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<v Speaker 1>kids are super anti putting a period at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of text. Now or if you don't know that? What

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<v Speaker 1>if you know you're from a generation that still does that,

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<v Speaker 1>but they've adopted this new philosophy. It's all interpreted as

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<v Speaker 1>throwing shade, so you can easily make a mistake and

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<v Speaker 1>not even know it. The TV show Catfish highlights stories

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<v Speaker 1>of people who meet and fall in love online, sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>spending years in relationships solely on the computer or phone

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<v Speaker 1>before finding out that person isn't who they thought they were.

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<v Speaker 1>And while sure they were attracted to their words on

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<v Speaker 1>a screen, finding out that the picture their boyfriend or

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<v Speaker 1>girlfriend uses fake fizzles the whole thing out very quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>It's rare that the tricky decides that they still love

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<v Speaker 1>the trigger due to all the great texting conversations they had.

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<v Speaker 1>That's because actual physical, in person attraction matters, and so

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<v Speaker 1>does the breach of trust that develops when long term

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<v Speaker 1>text only relationships are revealed to contain distortions. Is it

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<v Speaker 1>possible to fall in love over text or email, then

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<v Speaker 1>meet and have all of your feelings confirmed. Sure, we

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<v Speaker 1>all have friends who have done this, but we also

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<v Speaker 1>have plenty of friends who will spend weeks or months

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<v Speaker 1>texting before meeting and sometimes end up not meeting at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Too often people will meet the person with whom they

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<v Speaker 1>have texting chemistry, only to find out they have no

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<v Speaker 1>in person chemistry. I get it. It's hard to be

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<v Speaker 1>the weirdo demanding phone conversation when everyone around you is texting.

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<v Speaker 1>But you'll save yourself a ton of wasted time if

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<v Speaker 1>you make that leap. Institute a policy for yourself where

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<v Speaker 1>you can texts for half an hour to see if

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<v Speaker 1>there's a connection, and then switch to setting up an

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<v Speaker 1>in person date. Move your life offline as much as

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<v Speaker 1>possible in twenty twenty four. Coming up next an interview

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<v Speaker 1>with Senator Ted Cruz. Join us after the break, Hi,

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 1>My guest today is Senator Ted Cruz, one of my

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<v Speaker 1>favorite senators who has definitely had me thinking I should

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<v Speaker 1>have converted to Texan and author of the excellent new

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<v Speaker 1>book Unwoke. So nice to have you on, Senator Carol.

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<v Speaker 2>Great to be with you thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>A question I ask all of my guests, and I

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<v Speaker 1>imagine we'll take us in the direction of your book,

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<v Speaker 1>is what do you think is the largest cultural societal

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<v Speaker 1>problem in America? And is it solvable?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? I think there are a lot of cultural societal problems,

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<v Speaker 2>but one of the most massive, and the topic of

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<v Speaker 2>my book is is how the radical left has seized

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<v Speaker 2>control of virtually every major institution of our society. The

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<v Speaker 2>full title of the book is Unwoke, How to Defeat

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<v Speaker 2>Cultural Marxism in America. And what the book does is

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<v Speaker 2>it chronicles exactly how that has happened. And each chapter

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<v Speaker 2>of the book focuses on a different institution. So chapter

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<v Speaker 2>one starts with universities, because the universities I describe as

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<v Speaker 2>the Wuhan lab of the Woke virus. It's where the

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<v Speaker 2>virus was created, it's where it mutated, it's where it spread.

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<v Speaker 2>And from universities, the book then goes on to K

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<v Speaker 2>through twelve. Education, it goes on to journalism, It goes

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<v Speaker 2>on to government, it goes on to big business, it

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<v Speaker 2>goes on to big tech, It goes on to entertainment,

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<v Speaker 2>to Hollywood, movies, television, music, sports, it goes on to science,

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<v Speaker 2>and the final chapter in the book is on China,

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<v Speaker 2>which I view China as a central nexus intertwine with

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<v Speaker 2>each of them. And what the book does is two things.

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<v Speaker 2>It explains how and why the radical left seized each

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<v Speaker 2>of these institutions, and then secondly, it lays out a productive,

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<v Speaker 2>positive battle plan for how we take them back, because

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<v Speaker 2>I think if we don't take the institutions back, we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to lose our country.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. So, which one was the scariest chapter for you?

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<v Speaker 1>Which one do you think is the hardest for us

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<v Speaker 1>to conquer and take back?

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<v Speaker 2>I think the most dangerous is entertainment. Entertainment is incredibly pervasive.

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<v Speaker 2>The left understands the power of ideas. The left understands

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<v Speaker 2>and they engage in the battle the arena of ideas

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<v Speaker 2>in a way that the right systematically does not. So

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of how we fight back, I advocate essentially

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<v Speaker 2>using three sets of tools. The first set of tools

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<v Speaker 2>is sunlight and transparency. Because the ideas of the radical

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<v Speaker 2>life left are wildly unpopular. Normal rational people don't support

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<v Speaker 2>abolishing the police. Normal rational people don't support open borders

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<v Speaker 2>and chaos at our southern border. Normal rational people are

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<v Speaker 2>not struggling to figure out what a woman is, and

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<v Speaker 2>normal rational people do not celebrate the horrific atrocities of

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<v Speaker 2>Hamas terrorists, that those are not mainstream positions. Simply shining

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<v Speaker 2>a light on what the radical left is doing is

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<v Speaker 2>a powerful tool for fighting back. The second tool I

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<v Speaker 2>advocate is shifting the cost benefit analysis, increasing the costs

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<v Speaker 2>for those who choose to go woke to increase the

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<v Speaker 2>disincentives for going down that road. And the third tool,

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<v Speaker 2>and this applies in particular to entertainment, I encourage conservatives

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<v Speaker 2>and libertarians with resources, those who've been successful in business,

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<v Speaker 2>invest in the or organs of transmission of ideas. Go

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<v Speaker 2>buy a TV station, buy a radio station, buy a

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<v Speaker 2>book publishing house, buy a movie studio, buy a record label,

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<v Speaker 2>engage and speak. And you know, one example, the most

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<v Speaker 2>profound example of this is Elon Musk's buying Twitter, which

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<v Speaker 2>I think is the single biggest victory for free speech

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<v Speaker 2>in modern times. But you know, Carol, I also point

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<v Speaker 2>out in the book, Jeff Bezos bought the Washington Post

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<v Speaker 2>for three hundred million dollars. Now, he didn't do so

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<v Speaker 2>because he was bullish on the profitability of media in

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<v Speaker 2>the long time. He did it because he wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>own the commanding heights of public discourse. We need conservatives

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<v Speaker 2>and libertarians and those who love America to fight in

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<v Speaker 2>those arenas to take the back.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely. You open the book describing how your father

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<v Speaker 1>was for the cast Or Revolution in Cuba and how

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<v Speaker 1>he ultimately changed his mind, and you describe him as

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<v Speaker 1>a reformed revolutionary, but you also know that the new

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<v Speaker 1>leftist of the seventies stayed committed to Marxism against all odds. Really,

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<v Speaker 1>do you think changing minds as possible and how do

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<v Speaker 1>we reform more revolutionaries?

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<v Speaker 2>Look, I do think it's possible with some not necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>for the hardcore committed ideologues. But as you know the

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<v Speaker 2>opening of the book, I tell my family story, and

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<v Speaker 2>my dad was born in Cuba, grew up in Cuba,

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<v Speaker 2>and as a kid he fought in the Cuban Revolution.

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<v Speaker 2>He fought alongside Fidel Castro. Now, at the time he

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<v Speaker 2>didn't know that Castro was a communist. What he knew

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<v Speaker 2>was that Batista was corrupt and cruel and was a

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<v Speaker 2>terrible dictator. But it's interesting my dad has explained to

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<v Speaker 2>me many times that the people fighting in the revolution

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<v Speaker 2>were just like him. They were fourteen and fifteen year

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<v Speaker 2>old young boys who didn't know any better. And as

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<v Speaker 2>you know well, Carol, communist revolutions across the globe they're

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<v Speaker 2>always fought by teenagers who are young and passionate and idealistic,

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<v Speaker 2>and they don't have any life experience, they don't have

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<v Speaker 2>any wisdom, so they're easily deceived into being part of

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<v Speaker 2>a mission they believe in until the Communists sees power

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<v Speaker 2>and they begin brutally murdering and torturing and using force

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<v Speaker 2>and power. And I will say, look for my father.

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<v Speaker 2>He was in prisoned, he was tortured in Cuba. He

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<v Speaker 2>fled to America in nineteen fifty seven. In nineteen fifty nine,

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<v Speaker 2>the revolution succeeded. My dad saw firsthand what happened. He

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<v Speaker 2>saw that Castro was even worse than the guy who

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<v Speaker 2>preceded him, was even worse than Batista. Sadly, the Cubans

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<v Speaker 2>went from one son of a bitch to an even

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<v Speaker 2>worse son of a bitch. And my aunt Mike thea Sonia,

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<v Speaker 2>my father's younger sister. She was still living in Cuba.

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<v Speaker 2>She fought in the counter revolution against Castro, and she

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<v Speaker 2>ended up sadly being in prison being tortured by Castro's goon.

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<v Speaker 2>That had a powerful effect on my dad when he

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<v Speaker 2>saw his kid's sister being tortured by the same people

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<v Speaker 2>he had been fighting alongside. That helped open his eyes.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know many leftists that they refuse to open

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<v Speaker 2>their eyes. I will say, Carol, I do think people

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<v Speaker 2>on the left in the United States who are not

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<v Speaker 2>hardcore Marxist, their eyes are opening up right now on

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<v Speaker 2>what's happening on college campuses and the vicious anti semitism

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<v Speaker 2>we're seeing on college campuses is a manifestation of cultural Marxism,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're seeing people who had been on the left saying,

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<v Speaker 2>wait a second, I don't like these people that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>associated with. I don't like what they stand for, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't like what they're doing. And it is it is

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<v Speaker 2>a potential tipping point in terms of at least some

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<v Speaker 2>people waking up and realizing that the ideology they had

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<v Speaker 2>supported is wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, as a Jew and as a conservative, I hope

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<v Speaker 1>that lasts because my concern always is that memories are

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<v Speaker 1>very short, and I hope they remember that for future elections.

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<v Speaker 1>Your dad came to the United States penniless and his

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<v Speaker 1>son is a senator. Do you feel like you've made it?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? I feel like I live in the greatest country

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<v Speaker 2>on the face of the earth. And this is the

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<v Speaker 2>American dream. You get to live in it. I get

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<v Speaker 2>to live in it. All of us get to live

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<v Speaker 2>in a world where we have a chance to pursue

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<v Speaker 2>the American dream. And I'll tell you, Carol, it was

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<v Speaker 2>eleven years ago that I arrived in the Senate. I

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<v Speaker 2>was elected in twenty twelve. I was sworn in in

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<v Speaker 2>January of twenty thirteen. And I have to tell you,

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<v Speaker 2>as I was being sworn in, I couldn't help thinking

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<v Speaker 2>back to my dad in Austin, Texas in nineteen fifty seven.

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<v Speaker 2>His first job when he got to the US he

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<v Speaker 2>washed dishes. He made fifty cents an hour washing dishes

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<v Speaker 2>to pay his way through school. And what I kept

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<v Speaker 2>thinking is if someone had come to that teenage immigrant

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<v Speaker 2>and told him fifty years hence, your son will become

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<v Speaker 2>a senator for the great state of Texas, that kid

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<v Speaker 2>could not have believed that. That would have been beyond

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<v Speaker 2>anything my father was capable of imagining. And on that day,

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<v Speaker 2>when I was sworn in, I had my left hand

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<v Speaker 2>on my father's Bible, and sitting up in the gallery

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<v Speaker 2>was my dad looking down and he just had tears

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<v Speaker 2>streaming down his face. And as my dad said afterwards,

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<v Speaker 2>he said, only in America. That there is no other

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<v Speaker 2>country on Earth where this is possible. And sadly, Carol,

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<v Speaker 2>that's one of the reasons, one of the central reasons

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<v Speaker 2>why the left, why the cultural Marxists hate America's why

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<v Speaker 2>they want to destroy that freedom, that opportunity. They want

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<v Speaker 2>to replace it with central power and control.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're absolutely right, and that's so beautiful. I love

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<v Speaker 1>hearing about your dad and about your family, so I

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<v Speaker 1>could talk to you forever, But I know you're a

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<v Speaker 1>busy guy, So end here with your best tip for

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<v Speaker 1>my listeners on how they can improve their lives.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, improve your lives, I would say, do more to

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<v Speaker 2>fight to save our country. Look, every person wants to

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<v Speaker 2>live for something larger than themselves. I think America is

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<v Speaker 2>at a greater crisis today than it has ever been,

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<v Speaker 2>certainly in our lifetimes, and in many ways, Carol, I

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<v Speaker 2>think you and I are blessed. We're blessed Number one

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<v Speaker 2>to be Americans number two. Oh yeah, to have family

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<v Speaker 2>stories where we've seen oppression, we've seen that freedom can

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<v Speaker 2>be taken away, that we can't take it for granted,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're blessed to be fighting for something that matters,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. I tell people, listen, we're not battling today

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<v Speaker 2>over whether the top marginal tax rate is thirty six

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<v Speaker 2>percent or thirty eight percent. That matters, sure, but the

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<v Speaker 2>fate of the cosmos is not going to turn on

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<v Speaker 2>that question. We are fighting, I fully believe, over whether

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<v Speaker 2>this nation the greatest cun in the history of the world,

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<v Speaker 2>whether we survive, or whether our nation is destroyed, and

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<v Speaker 2>that that's a blessing to jump up every day and

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<v Speaker 2>say this is worth fighting for. And I want to

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<v Speaker 2>encourage your listeners the book Unwoke. It is designed to

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<v Speaker 2>help you fight to save America, to empower you, to

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<v Speaker 2>educate you, to inform you, to give you tools to

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<v Speaker 2>go and fight with your friends, your family. So I

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<v Speaker 2>want to encourage folks. You can get the book anywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>You can get it on Amazon or Barnes and Noble

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<v Speaker 2>or any place you get books, but I want to

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<v Speaker 2>encourage you to go buy it. And Christmas time is

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<v Speaker 2>right around the corner. I would encourage you don't buy

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<v Speaker 2>just one. It makes a great gift. Buy a copy

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<v Speaker 2>for your mom, buy a copy for your best friend,

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<v Speaker 2>buy a copy for your crazy left wing neighbor who

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<v Speaker 2>you need to knock some sense into. Or even better,

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<v Speaker 2>buy a copy for your kids or for your grandkids

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<v Speaker 2>so they can understand what it is that people are

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<v Speaker 2>trying to indoctrinate them with. They can be prepared to

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<v Speaker 2>fight back. This book was written to help empower people

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<v Speaker 2>to fight together to save our country.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much, Senator Cruz. The book is Unwoke.

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<v Speaker 1>Get it wherever you buy your books. It's really excellent.

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<v Speaker 1>I really enjoyed reading it. Thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 1>coming on.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Carol, and I appreciate everything you do. Your

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<v Speaker 2>voice is powerful and it has a real impact that

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<v Speaker 2>it's needed.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, senator. Thanks so much for joining us on

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<v Speaker 1>the Carol Marcowitz Show. Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts.