WEBVTT - QLS Mini: Questlove Flips The Script On 3 Questions He Asked Flea 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:03.640 The Quest Love Show is a production of iHeartRadio. 0:00:16.560 --> 0:00:19.040 What's going on? This is cousin Jake, producer of the 0:00:19.120 --> 0:00:23.520 Questlove Show. I'm sitting here with the man himself, Questlove, Amir. 0:00:23.560 --> 0:00:26.480 We just finished a conversation with Flee and you asked 0:00:26.600 --> 0:00:29.800 three questions that I thought were really interesting and I 0:00:29.840 --> 0:00:32.120 want to put them right back on to you. When 0:00:32.159 --> 0:00:35.400 you think of your show going years and the formative 0:00:35.479 --> 0:00:40.640 years of the Roots, what are two or three concerts 0:00:40.960 --> 0:00:43.199 when y'all were cutting your teeth and you're looking at 0:00:43.200 --> 0:00:47.519 peers and looking at the bands, the groups, the crews 0:00:47.600 --> 0:00:50.120 that you're modeling yourselves after or taking this or that 0:00:50.200 --> 0:00:53.160 from what comes to mind? What concerts? 0:00:53.640 --> 0:00:54.120 Okay? 0:00:54.480 --> 0:00:59.840 So we finished, We were mixing that skeat on December 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:02.880 thirty first, nineteen ninety three, and for. 0:01:02.880 --> 0:01:04.919 New Year's it was. 0:01:06.560 --> 0:01:10.440 Soul's a Mischief Day Las Soul in a Tribe call Quest. 0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:15.520 This was the last concert that Tarika and I went together. 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:18.560 Really ass fans, even though we had a record deal, 0:01:19.480 --> 0:01:23.959 Like we grew up in the period where you know, 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:25.880 we got to the venue early so we could be 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:30.320 in the front row. And it was ninety one, so 0:01:30.400 --> 0:01:34.520 everyone was just having jump go Itis. 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:36.680 Go Go Go ninety three, right. 0:01:37.160 --> 0:01:37.960 Right ninety three. 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:41.119 But I'm just being like that that early period of 0:01:41.160 --> 0:01:42.559 you know, karras One comes home, say. 0:01:42.480 --> 0:01:43.759 Chop Chop chop. 0:01:44.080 --> 0:01:48.040 But it was weird because this time it was almost like, man, 0:01:48.200 --> 0:01:51.320 one day, that's going to be us. So I was 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:55.480 really just taken in the environment of like it's New 0:01:55.560 --> 0:01:59.440 Year's I'm seeing like my three favorite rap groups in 0:01:59.480 --> 0:02:02.480 a It was just a time. So for me, the 0:02:02.600 --> 0:02:05.560 energy of it, I mean, the show was good, but 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:09.800 it was just such an innocent magic moment for us. 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:16.480 I will say the second show, seeing Fishbone at the 0:02:16.520 --> 0:02:22.480 Trocadero in nineteen ninety one, when the realities of my 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:28.960 surroundings came out, Like to me, this was peak Fishbone 0:02:29.160 --> 0:02:31.520 doing a lot of material like we knew all knew 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:34.200 that album left and right, and we knew In Your 0:02:34.240 --> 0:02:38.640 Face and the first album and Truth and Soul. So 0:02:39.320 --> 0:02:43.080 I actually felt that they were just right on the cusp, 0:02:43.200 --> 0:02:46.480 right on the verge of greatness. And what's kind of 0:02:46.520 --> 0:02:51.079 cool is after the show, shout out to our dear 0:02:51.120 --> 0:02:53.560 friend and posy Talbert, who took a lot of the 0:02:53.639 --> 0:02:57.560 roots for very early first photos. He told those guys 0:02:57.600 --> 0:03:00.800 about like, yeah, you know, there's this club called Billy 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:04.839 Bob's at a University of Penn That's where the Roots 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:07.000 she used to play and whatnot, like come you know, 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:12.320 like we actually hung with Fishbone at Billy Bob's, had 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:16.080 chicken cheese steaks, and I got to nerd out on 0:03:16.160 --> 0:03:18.760 those guys like they were like really really really cool. 0:03:18.840 --> 0:03:20.640 So that was like a great experience. 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:22.600 Are there photos of that when you mentioned. 0:03:22.760 --> 0:03:28.840 I'm certain maybe IMPOSI had. I've not seen the complete 0:03:28.840 --> 0:03:32.399 collection of his of his work. I parades in there, 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:37.360 probably the most surprised I've ever been at a show, 0:03:37.680 --> 0:03:41.000 so the further I became quest level whatever. It's just 0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:44.800 hard to be a fan because I'm the guy that 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:47.080 still runs to the soundboard and be like, yo, keep 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:48.800 like turn up the high at like one k a 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:50.560 little bit, just give a little bit of highs like. 0:03:51.200 --> 0:03:53.160 And they're looking at them like what the fuck like, 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:54.400 and I'm like, those. 0:03:54.240 --> 0:03:56.600 Are famously curmudgeony people to the sound. 0:03:56.440 --> 0:03:59.480 Oh dude, so so protective of big gear whatever. But 0:03:59.520 --> 0:04:01.480 I tell them, I'm like, dude, I went to the 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:04.840 back of it. They can't hear the drums, like you know, 0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:06.560 you can hear up here, but they can't. They're trying 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:08.880 to protect the system, you know. But I got to 0:04:08.920 --> 0:04:12.080 tell you, man, one of the biggest shocks of my life. 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:14.400 And it's only because. 0:04:15.560 --> 0:04:20.040 All right, so we're at Glastonbury last year doing this 0:04:20.480 --> 0:04:26.680 festival and War is playing. Now the thing is like, dude, 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:30.760 with legacy groups and whatever, I'll go there just to like, 0:04:30.800 --> 0:04:32.760 all right, let me see them one last time before 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:36.200 because you never know and whatever. And you know, there's 0:04:36.240 --> 0:04:41.320 either like phone it in from home thing or vegacy 0:04:41.400 --> 0:04:44.440 aspect to it, you know, and you can only as 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:47.159 a guy that's collected all the footage from the seventies 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:48.200 or whatnot. 0:04:48.520 --> 0:04:49.720 I never once. 0:04:49.520 --> 0:04:52.640 Thought like, man, because I always wanted to know what 0:04:52.680 --> 0:04:54.480 was it like to see a show in the seventies, 0:04:55.400 --> 0:04:58.320 Like was it as good as this live album tells 0:04:58.320 --> 0:05:00.520 me that it was? Or is it good as footage 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:04.279 that I found on YouTube or whatever? And I gotta 0:05:04.320 --> 0:05:10.000 tell you, man, War is probably one of the best 0:05:10.400 --> 0:05:15.680 legacy acts I've ever seen. I come from the school 0:05:16.040 --> 0:05:21.800 of I won't say mirroring or mimicking, but when I 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:25.800 cover any artists that I work with, I'm trying to 0:05:25.800 --> 0:05:28.440 put them in the place where they were at their 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:33.000 peak musically. So the times I jammed with Prince, I 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:35.440 will tune the drums to sound just like his drums 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:38.520 sounded on and Prince notices like, oh, you detuned the 0:05:38.520 --> 0:05:41.280 snare drum to sound just like and I'll play exactly 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:43.240 the licks that he played or whatever the era that 0:05:43.320 --> 0:05:47.039 you want, right, I can shape shift into any era 0:05:47.760 --> 0:05:51.200 that serves that song. And I kind of thought me 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:55.880 training the roots and whatever like two degree association of 0:05:55.920 --> 0:05:58.200 you know, some of the musicians around the sort of 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:01.279 capture onto it. And plus it's und to mimic the 0:06:01.360 --> 0:06:04.040 j Dilla sound or whatever, so people do it now 0:06:04.080 --> 0:06:06.240 with modern stuff. But I kind of just lost hope 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:08.440 on the seventies thing. And I got to tell you, man, 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:14.599 those guys they sounded like war, real war, and half 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:16.680 the guys were like new musicians or whatever. So I 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:19.120 was just really impressed. It's good to hear that they 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:23.040 weren't overplaying or anything. So, uh, I will say, if 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:27.520 you get a chance to see War play, do it. 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:30.760 Did they play Galaxy or did they do like. 0:06:30.800 --> 0:06:32.040 They opened with Galaxy? 0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:35.159 So okay, So the deal was, you know, Kirk came 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:38.240 in the room and was like, yo, what's coming on? 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:38.839 You want to see it? 0:06:38.760 --> 0:06:42.880 It was raining like hell and I had on crocs 0:06:44.000 --> 0:06:47.520 and it's mud and I'm like, nah, I'm good. And 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:53.040 I heard the bass playing from my dressing room. I 0:06:53.120 --> 0:06:55.440 was like cool and I let it go and then 0:06:55.520 --> 0:06:59.040 they played I Forget Oh. They played Baby Brother. Now 0:06:59.040 --> 0:07:01.240 we cover baby as a warm up song of the 0:07:01.279 --> 0:07:04.560 tonight show. So I turned the volume down off my computer, 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:06.719 I had music warn and I just opened the door 0:07:06.760 --> 0:07:11.000 a little bit. And when I opened the door, Smokey 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:13.480 Robinson was right next to us, so he sees me, like, 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:15.280 hey me, how you doing. So now I got to 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:17.320 go out and hug smoking. Once I was outside and 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:22.120 I heard the music, I was like, yo, this sounds good. 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:24.800 All right, let me check. 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:26.360 And I just ran this set, you know, side of 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:29.080 the stage to see for two seconds and I wound 0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:31.720 up standing there. And so by the time they got 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:35.520 the low Rider, they gave me the six like you 0:07:35.560 --> 0:07:37.560 do it, and I was like, wow, really I remind 0:07:37.680 --> 0:07:39.840 your trust, Like I don't think you guys know me 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:40.480 from a can of. 0:07:40.400 --> 0:07:41.760 Paint, but you sat in on low writ. 0:07:42.240 --> 0:07:46.200 I sat in on Lowrider and had my phone set up. 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:50.240 I was like, take me doing this and I nailed it. 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:53.720 And so yeah, man, you asked Flee a really good question. 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:55.680 I know this is maybe more of a Tarik question 0:07:55.960 --> 0:07:58.840 in watching hip hop shows, and again maybe even to 0:07:58.880 --> 0:08:01.480 the warpoint does have to be hip hop. Was there 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:06.040 ever somebody in your formative years that you watched do 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:09.120 things on the highest level that challenged you in terms 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:12.760 of focusing on your craft? You asked him that question 0:08:12.760 --> 0:08:16.080 about punk in a front person, but put. 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:20.280 It to you, I had ten years of you know, 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:26.000 my dad's iron fist of tyranny. So you know a 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:28.680 lot of my reputation I know now like it serves 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:30.520 me well where people are like, oh man, he plays 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:33.640 so disciplined, and he plays so like when you're saving 0:08:33.800 --> 0:08:37.640 for like a Shwin ten speed and your dad turns 0:08:37.720 --> 0:08:41.800 around and signals ten dollars to you and you're only 0:08:41.880 --> 0:08:45.960 making fifty dollars at night, like fuck now, I gotta 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:48.400 do three shows to save up money to buy my 0:08:48.440 --> 0:08:51.920 ten speed. So my dad was so and he was 0:08:51.920 --> 0:08:55.199 one of those leaders who even when he was wrong, 0:08:55.240 --> 0:09:00.240 he was right. So of course, you know, I'm I'm 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:04.640 trying to catch up to you know, all the drummers 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:09.120 like I'm in jazz class with John Roberts, Little John Robert, 0:09:09.200 --> 0:09:12.840 like all these monsters who are playing with Miles Davis. 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:15.040 Who were like they are established. 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:18.160 I felt this need in eighty seven, like, oh, I 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:21.120 have to learn how to gospel role and all those 0:09:21.160 --> 0:09:24.800 things that drummers are doing now. And when I brought that, 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:28.600 you know, the way that my dad would just penalize me, like, no, 0:09:28.720 --> 0:09:34.599 twenty twenty, we're up to twenty now, oh really forty. 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:38.040 The breakfast club, you know, detention detentions. 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:39.200 Yes, he you know. 0:09:39.320 --> 0:09:44.959 So just the fear of my dad's right hand signaling 0:09:45.120 --> 0:09:49.679 you owe me money kept me very much in the pocket. 0:09:49.840 --> 0:09:52.640 And so I'll say that that was the first half 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:56.160 of it. To be honest with you, probably the best 0:09:56.160 --> 0:09:59.720 thing that ever happened in my life is me inheriting. 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:03.160 It's at least gotta be. 0:10:04.400 --> 0:10:09.160 I'll say, seventy five hours of just Prince rehearsals and 0:10:09.240 --> 0:10:13.319 I haven't even gotten through all of them yet, and 0:10:13.720 --> 0:10:16.800 you know, it served me well then, but just to 0:10:16.840 --> 0:10:18.400 hear how he runs rehearsals. 0:10:18.520 --> 0:10:21.080 Now, the thing is he was also tired. 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:25.480 I got tapes of him be rating Lisa for reading 0:10:25.520 --> 0:10:26.480 a comic book or. 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:30.920 Bobby slowing the beat down or whatever. 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:36.360 So just to hear him as a bandleader taught me 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:42.719 a lot about musicianship and ways to interpret songs and 0:10:42.800 --> 0:10:45.160 all those things, especially with the time, like the time 0:10:45.760 --> 0:10:47.959 they would always start off doing it like the record, 0:10:48.720 --> 0:10:50.640 and he would always pushing more like no, you need 0:10:50.679 --> 0:10:53.040 more chords there, and the whole like it has to 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:56.040 be better than the record. So I'll say that really 0:10:57.000 --> 0:11:04.439 listening to a lot of prince rehearsals and my dad's 0:11:04.520 --> 0:11:09.720 just tyranny era of being under his leadership is kind 0:11:09.720 --> 0:11:14.400 of what built me now. But also the you know, 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:19.120 the whole underestimation card of people like scoffing like what 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:20.160 y'all about to do. 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:22.520 And you know, and then having to prove them wrong. 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:25.160 So on the hip hop side, just because again with Flee, 0:11:25.240 --> 0:11:27.960 you asked him about a really specific careerd of punk culture, 0:11:28.000 --> 0:11:29.880 which was interesting to see his reaction on the hip 0:11:29.880 --> 0:11:30.680 hop side when you and. 0:11:30.679 --> 0:11:33.079 Trico go those shows. But was there ever a. 0:11:33.040 --> 0:11:36.120 Moment, because I mean, you know, you work with one 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:38.440 of the greatest MC's of all time back in those 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:41.640 teenage years or in your twenties whatever, where you saw 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:43.959 a hip hop show even after that, where you were like. 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:46.480 Okay, So here's the thing. 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:52.840 I probably see more carous One shows pre record deal 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:57.040 as far hip as hip hop was concerned, than any 0:11:57.080 --> 0:12:02.480 other show. Philly, of course, has like five different colleges. 0:12:03.120 --> 0:12:05.880 I wouldn't go to the clubs to see them, but 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:08.560 where it would be that like he Carris One's playing 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:12.320 at Cheney or at Lincoln or you know wherever is 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:13.280 on the main line. 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:15.360 So I've seen like three. 0:12:15.240 --> 0:12:21.880 Or four blue print edutainment era Carris One shows. There 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:25.240 are a lot of tricks that I borrowed from him 0:12:25.280 --> 0:12:27.760 that to this day work like Gangbusters. 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:32.840 On top of that, Kris One wrote a book in 0:12:32.960 --> 0:12:34.240 nineteen ninety. 0:12:34.000 --> 0:12:35.720 Five, I believe out of print. 0:12:36.120 --> 0:12:40.040 Yeah, and this book we just happened to be. 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:42.880 We were coming down from the Bay Area to LA 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:47.160 and we made a rest stop and you go to 0:12:47.200 --> 0:12:49.720 the gas station, you know, the bus is fueling up, 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:53.400 and you go to the truck stop and there's all 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:57.280 types of you know, paulp. Novels and all those things 0:12:57.280 --> 0:13:00.800 like throwaway books and Harlequin romance books. And then I 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:04.000 saw the bottom like Carris Ones, and I forgot. 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:05.320 What the name of the book was with the mind 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:05.920 or so I know. 0:13:06.320 --> 0:13:11.080 Yeah and so, but it was really a guide to 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:16.920 the business of hip hop and we brought it, but 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:21.720 we kind of got it to playfully mock carris One because. 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:24.760 His voice was very easy to emulate. 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:29.080 So to read the entire book in the voice of 0:13:29.240 --> 0:13:32.439 car ars One, and I mean they're telling you. He's 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:37.560 telling you everything, like always have thirty eight x ten 0:13:38.280 --> 0:13:41.880 photos on your person, so that way you could negotiate 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:44.280 your way into a restaurant, say if you would like 0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:47.240 to go to a red lobster and da da da. 0:13:47.400 --> 0:13:50.120 You showed you know, your managers was, hey, I have 0:13:50.160 --> 0:13:52.680 an artist here with me. So we at first it 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:57.040 was jokes, and then he talked about three things about 0:13:57.040 --> 0:14:00.360 the stage. He says, when you go on stage, make 0:14:00.480 --> 0:14:05.080 sure that you suit up your armor by wearing four 0:14:05.120 --> 0:14:07.520 to five. He's like, make sure you have a T 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:10.760 shirt on. He's very specific, have a T shirt on, 0:14:11.960 --> 0:14:17.120 like have a cutoff T shirt, and then a cotton shirt, 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:20.280 a different cotton shirt on top of that, and then 0:14:20.400 --> 0:14:25.600 a button up shirt and a hoodie and a coat 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:27.760 and if you could do it a vest he say. 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:30.720 Then the reason is He's like it's a psychological trick 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:32.760 that you can play, which is basically, you come on 0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:38.360 stage with all those things and song by song take 0:14:38.400 --> 0:14:42.720 a layer off and the side of that tells the audience, Oh, 0:14:42.800 --> 0:14:45.720 they're taking their job seriously and they're they're rolling up 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:48.520 their sleeves. So by the fifth you're just down to 0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:52.800 your T shirt and that tells the audience like, oh, 0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:54.000 he's really working hard. 0:14:54.360 --> 0:14:55.320 So we laughed at that. 0:14:56.280 --> 0:15:00.800 He's like a rhythmic run whenever your first song is like, 0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:04.240 let it play, and then you rest left right like 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:09.440 he's giving instructions on what to do. And we would 0:15:09.520 --> 0:15:11.760 laugh and laugh and mock and laugh and laugh and 0:15:11.840 --> 0:15:13.120 mock and laugh and mock, and. 0:15:13.080 --> 0:15:14.720 Then like we do it on stage. 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:18.880 But then the audience has responded to it, and suddenly 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:20.520 it wasn't funny anymore. 0:15:21.000 --> 0:15:24.240 It was like, oh, damn, this does work. 0:15:24.800 --> 0:15:28.320 And his biggest trick was and you know, I really 0:15:28.320 --> 0:15:34.200 did it during the D'Angelo tour. He's like, always like, 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:38.320 whatever your your your most prominent verses is always had 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:41.880 the dj uh put the music down to a whisper 0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:45.800 and then talk to your audience and break down. And 0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:47.520 he said it in a way if you ever seen 0:15:47.640 --> 0:15:53.200 my philosophy video. The first verse he does a cappella 0:15:53.480 --> 0:15:55.960 let us begin where he does that of spoken word, 0:15:56.760 --> 0:15:59.560 and we started doing that trick and that shit worked, 0:15:59.720 --> 0:16:03.440 so so you know, it started off as jokes, just 0:16:03.520 --> 0:16:06.800 like saying it in the authoritative voice of kars one, 0:16:07.440 --> 0:16:09.320 and suddenly that became our. 0:16:09.280 --> 0:16:12.160 Bible thirty five years later. That's why Treek's wearing fur 0:16:12.240 --> 0:16:14.840 coats and robes on stage and slowly. 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:18.240 Yes, to this day, it's that that book still stays 0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:18.600 with us. 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:20.720 I did interview kras When one time, and he was 0:16:20.760 --> 0:16:22.560 at a red lobster and that blew my mind. So 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:25.760 it's funny that you choose that restaurant for anyone that 0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:28.240 wants a great Karras One story the Quest Love Supreme 0:16:28.320 --> 0:16:30.680 episode with Chris Rock with what is the punchline? My 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:35.160 rhymes will oh, my rhymes will destroy you? Yes, exactly, 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:41.280 it required listening. Last question you asked Flee what peer 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:44.040 never reached the level that they deserved? 0:16:44.240 --> 0:16:44.440 Right? 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:47.000 And you know this doesn't have to be Philly, it 0:16:47.000 --> 0:16:51.120 could be anywhere and again your formative years. But and 0:16:51.160 --> 0:16:54.240 this question is asked with love to whatever the artist is, 0:16:54.360 --> 0:16:57.760 But do you feel that way about anybody that you 0:16:57.920 --> 0:17:01.520 truly admired or were absolutely amazed by their stage show 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:05.080 that never translated to album or to the type of 0:17:05.080 --> 0:17:06.000 career they deserved. 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:09.080 Okay, so when I was asking for you that question, 0:17:10.200 --> 0:17:14.520 I was thinking about Fishbone, and you know, especially after 0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:19.600 doing the slide doc, I asked Flee about what happened 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:22.919 a minute after they got off stage at SNL to 0:17:22.960 --> 0:17:28.480 do under the Bridge something. I didn't know the backstory, 0:17:28.560 --> 0:17:36.280 but I clearly saw a unit fighting against the success 0:17:36.359 --> 0:17:40.280 that they were about to experience. And there's nothing more 0:17:41.400 --> 0:17:48.080 fearsome than sort of rabbit holing into worrying about what 0:17:48.160 --> 0:17:51.760 other people think. I'll say, probably on the hip hop 0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:55.240 side of things, like the first time I ever heard 0:17:55.359 --> 0:18:00.840 Bean's rhyme. Beanie Siegel came to my house house with 0:18:01.000 --> 0:18:05.359 Malik b And I mean, I've told the story and 0:18:05.480 --> 0:18:09.280 the lore of what eventually became Black Lily, but kind 0:18:09.280 --> 0:18:11.280 of the jam sessions at my house that let the 0:18:11.320 --> 0:18:15.440 things fall apart was literally like a screenwriter couldn't ask 0:18:15.480 --> 0:18:19.320 for a more perfect scenario in which Blow in the 0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:21.720 ninth grade is singing this crezy like you know, we 0:18:21.800 --> 0:18:24.520 love loud now but like to watch a ninth grader 0:18:24.680 --> 0:18:27.359 do all that weird shit, like what kind of crack 0:18:27.480 --> 0:18:30.160 is this guy smoking? Like he's making bird noises and shit. 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:34.960 And then you got a ten year old Jasmine Sullivan 0:18:35.040 --> 0:18:37.919 who clearly should not be in that house. Music with 0:18:37.960 --> 0:18:41.199 the pizza Yeah, music as the pizza guy, and like 0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:45.960 literally it's like I'm exaggerating this whole moment. And to me, 0:18:46.040 --> 0:18:49.760 the tipping point was like when Malick to start bringing 0:18:49.760 --> 0:18:53.119 his boys over. I didn't know his boys were Freeway 0:18:53.240 --> 0:18:55.640 and Beanie and all those cats and whatnot. 0:18:57.040 --> 0:19:00.199 And man, Beanie did the. 0:19:00.280 --> 0:19:05.040 Verse that he did on Adrenaline, but that verse like 0:19:05.119 --> 0:19:09.840 Beanie had no mind to structure, like, oh, let me 0:19:09.920 --> 0:19:13.320 just do twenty four and he had if you listen 0:19:13.400 --> 0:19:15.560 to Adrenaline on things fall apart, like everything in rhymes 0:19:15.560 --> 0:19:18.480 with and them easily went on for ten minutes in 0:19:18.480 --> 0:19:20.359 a row, like it gave Tarik pause. 0:19:21.760 --> 0:19:23.880 It was like we didn't know he was that good. 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:26.639 Like he just kept rhyming, and to me, I was like, 0:19:27.119 --> 0:19:34.919 there's literally just he's literally painted every scenario that you 0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:39.720 can rhyme within them, every scenario Like he talked about 0:19:39.800 --> 0:19:44.359 gun battles and drug scenarios and his lifestyle and going 0:19:44.400 --> 0:19:47.200 to games and the celebrities meeting women and all that stuff. 0:19:48.119 --> 0:19:50.240 But after eight minutes, it just became a. 0:19:50.960 --> 0:19:55.480 There's more, there's more, there's more by the end, like 0:19:55.520 --> 0:19:56.639 a high tiled the. 0:19:56.680 --> 0:19:59.080 Rich, like, Yo, we gotta get that dude on the record. 0:19:58.920 --> 0:20:01.920 Like and yes we did have. 0:20:02.359 --> 0:20:07.000 We had first DIBs on both, even Beanie, but we 0:20:07.000 --> 0:20:10.640 weren't in the business mind state to push him further. 0:20:10.720 --> 0:20:12.360 So I'm glad it worked out the way it did. 0:20:13.359 --> 0:20:21.760 But for me, man, I just wonder in an alternate world, 0:20:22.119 --> 0:20:28.680 like man like Beanie was the wasn't still is the god, 0:20:28.800 --> 0:20:31.399 you know what I mean? And I just wish the 0:20:31.480 --> 0:20:32.640 world knew. 0:20:33.600 --> 0:20:36.240 That level of that side of him. 0:20:36.600 --> 0:20:40.080 Yeah, I wish things didn't play out the way that 0:20:40.080 --> 0:20:44.600 they played out, and that he just allowed that transformation 0:20:44.680 --> 0:20:45.080 to happen. 0:20:45.200 --> 0:20:46.920 Leaning to that side of his artistry 0:21:05.600 --> 0:21:10.160 Questlov shows a production of iHeartRadio.