1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: The Quest Love Show is a production of iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 2: What's going on? This is cousin Jake, producer of the 3 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 2: Questlove Show. I'm sitting here with the man himself, Questlove, Amir. 4 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 2: We just finished a conversation with Flee and you asked 5 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 2: three questions that I thought were really interesting and I 6 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 2: want to put them right back on to you. When 7 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 2: you think of your show going years and the formative 8 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 2: years of the Roots, what are two or three concerts 9 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 2: when y'all were cutting your teeth and you're looking at 10 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 2: peers and looking at the bands, the groups, the crews 11 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 2: that you're modeling yourselves after or taking this or that 12 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 2: from what comes to mind? What concerts? 13 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 3: Okay? 14 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 4: So we finished, We were mixing that skeat on December 15 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 4: thirty first, nineteen ninety three, and for. 16 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:04,919 Speaker 3: New Year's it was. 17 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 4: Soul's a Mischief Day Las Soul in a Tribe call Quest. 18 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 4: This was the last concert that Tarika and I went together. 19 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 4: Really ass fans, even though we had a record deal, 20 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 4: Like we grew up in the period where you know, 21 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 4: we got to the venue early so we could be 22 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 4: in the front row. And it was ninety one, so 23 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 4: everyone was just having jump go Itis. 24 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 2: Go Go Go ninety three, right. 25 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 3: Right ninety three. 26 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,119 Speaker 4: But I'm just being like that that early period of 27 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:42,559 Speaker 4: you know, karras One comes home, say. 28 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 3: Chop Chop chop. 29 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 4: But it was weird because this time it was almost like, man, 30 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 4: one day, that's going to be us. So I was 31 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 4: really just taken in the environment of like it's New 32 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 4: Year's I'm seeing like my three favorite rap groups in 33 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 4: a It was just a time. So for me, the 34 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 4: energy of it, I mean, the show was good, but 35 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 4: it was just such an innocent magic moment for us. 36 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 4: I will say the second show, seeing Fishbone at the 37 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 4: Trocadero in nineteen ninety one, when the realities of my 38 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 4: surroundings came out, Like to me, this was peak Fishbone 39 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 4: doing a lot of material like we knew all knew 40 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 4: that album left and right, and we knew In Your 41 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 4: Face and the first album and Truth and Soul. So 42 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 4: I actually felt that they were just right on the cusp, 43 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 4: right on the verge of greatness. And what's kind of 44 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 4: cool is after the show, shout out to our dear 45 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 4: friend and posy Talbert, who took a lot of the 46 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 4: roots for very early first photos. He told those guys 47 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 4: about like, yeah, you know, there's this club called Billy 48 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:04,839 Speaker 4: Bob's at a University of Penn That's where the Roots 49 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 4: she used to play and whatnot, like come you know, 50 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 4: like we actually hung with Fishbone at Billy Bob's, had 51 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 4: chicken cheese steaks, and I got to nerd out on 52 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 4: those guys like they were like really really really cool. 53 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 4: So that was like a great experience. 54 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 2: Are there photos of that when you mentioned. 55 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 4: I'm certain maybe IMPOSI had. I've not seen the complete 56 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:32,399 Speaker 4: collection of his of his work. I parades in there, 57 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 4: probably the most surprised I've ever been at a show, 58 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 4: so the further I became quest level whatever. It's just 59 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 4: hard to be a fan because I'm the guy that 60 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 4: still runs to the soundboard and be like, yo, keep 61 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 4: like turn up the high at like one k a 62 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 4: little bit, just give a little bit of highs like. 63 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 3: And they're looking at them like what the fuck like, 64 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 3: and I'm like, those. 65 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 2: Are famously curmudgeony people to the sound. 66 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 4: Oh dude, so so protective of big gear whatever. But 67 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 4: I tell them, I'm like, dude, I went to the 68 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 4: back of it. They can't hear the drums, like you know, 69 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 4: you can hear up here, but they can't. They're trying 70 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 4: to protect the system, you know. But I got to 71 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 4: tell you, man, one of the biggest shocks of my life. 72 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 3: And it's only because. 73 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 4: All right, so we're at Glastonbury last year doing this 74 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 4: festival and War is playing. Now the thing is like, dude, 75 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 4: with legacy groups and whatever, I'll go there just to like, 76 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 4: all right, let me see them one last time before 77 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 4: because you never know and whatever. And you know, there's 78 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 4: either like phone it in from home thing or vegacy 79 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 4: aspect to it, you know, and you can only as 80 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 4: a guy that's collected all the footage from the seventies 81 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 4: or whatnot. 82 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 3: I never once. 83 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 4: Thought like, man, because I always wanted to know what 84 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 4: was it like to see a show in the seventies, 85 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 4: Like was it as good as this live album tells 86 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 4: me that it was? Or is it good as footage 87 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 4: that I found on YouTube or whatever? And I gotta 88 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 4: tell you, man, War is probably one of the best 89 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 4: legacy acts I've ever seen. I come from the school 90 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 4: of I won't say mirroring or mimicking, but when I 91 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 4: cover any artists that I work with, I'm trying to 92 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 4: put them in the place where they were at their 93 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 4: peak musically. So the times I jammed with Prince, I 94 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 4: will tune the drums to sound just like his drums 95 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 4: sounded on and Prince notices like, oh, you detuned the 96 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 4: snare drum to sound just like and I'll play exactly 97 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 4: the licks that he played or whatever the era that 98 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 4: you want, right, I can shape shift into any era 99 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 4: that serves that song. And I kind of thought me 100 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 4: training the roots and whatever like two degree association of 101 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 4: you know, some of the musicians around the sort of 102 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 4: capture onto it. And plus it's und to mimic the 103 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 4: j Dilla sound or whatever, so people do it now 104 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 4: with modern stuff. But I kind of just lost hope 105 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 4: on the seventies thing. And I got to tell you, man, 106 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 4: those guys they sounded like war, real war, and half 107 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 4: the guys were like new musicians or whatever. So I 108 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 4: was just really impressed. It's good to hear that they 109 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 4: weren't overplaying or anything. So, uh, I will say, if 110 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 4: you get a chance to see War play, do it. 111 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 2: Did they play Galaxy or did they do like. 112 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 3: They opened with Galaxy? 113 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 4: So okay, So the deal was, you know, Kirk came 114 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 4: in the room and was like, yo, what's coming on? 115 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 3: You want to see it? 116 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 4: It was raining like hell and I had on crocs 117 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 4: and it's mud and I'm like, nah, I'm good. And 118 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 4: I heard the bass playing from my dressing room. I 119 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 4: was like cool and I let it go and then 120 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 4: they played I Forget Oh. They played Baby Brother. Now 121 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 4: we cover baby as a warm up song of the 122 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 4: tonight show. So I turned the volume down off my computer, 123 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 4: I had music warn and I just opened the door 124 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 4: a little bit. And when I opened the door, Smokey 125 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 4: Robinson was right next to us, so he sees me, like, 126 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 4: hey me, how you doing. So now I got to 127 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 4: go out and hug smoking. Once I was outside and 128 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 4: I heard the music, I was like, yo, this sounds good. 129 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 3: All right, let me check. 130 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 4: And I just ran this set, you know, side of 131 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 4: the stage to see for two seconds and I wound 132 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 4: up standing there. And so by the time they got 133 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 4: the low Rider, they gave me the six like you 134 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 4: do it, and I was like, wow, really I remind 135 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 4: your trust, Like I don't think you guys know me 136 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 4: from a can of. 137 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 2: Paint, but you sat in on low writ. 138 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 4: I sat in on Lowrider and had my phone set up. 139 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 4: I was like, take me doing this and I nailed it. 140 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 2: And so yeah, man, you asked Flee a really good question. 141 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 2: I know this is maybe more of a Tarik question 142 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 2: in watching hip hop shows, and again maybe even to 143 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 2: the warpoint does have to be hip hop. Was there 144 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 2: ever somebody in your formative years that you watched do 145 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 2: things on the highest level that challenged you in terms 146 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 2: of focusing on your craft? You asked him that question 147 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 2: about punk in a front person, but put. 148 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 4: It to you, I had ten years of you know, 149 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 4: my dad's iron fist of tyranny. So you know a 150 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 4: lot of my reputation I know now like it serves 151 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 4: me well where people are like, oh man, he plays 152 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 4: so disciplined, and he plays so like when you're saving 153 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 4: for like a Shwin ten speed and your dad turns 154 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 4: around and signals ten dollars to you and you're only 155 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 4: making fifty dollars at night, like fuck now, I gotta 156 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 4: do three shows to save up money to buy my 157 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 4: ten speed. So my dad was so and he was 158 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:55,199 Speaker 4: one of those leaders who even when he was wrong, 159 00:08:55,240 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 4: he was right. So of course, you know, I'm I'm 160 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 4: trying to catch up to you know, all the drummers 161 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 4: like I'm in jazz class with John Roberts, Little John Robert, 162 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 4: like all these monsters who are playing with Miles Davis. 163 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 3: Who were like they are established. 164 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 4: I felt this need in eighty seven, like, oh, I 165 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 4: have to learn how to gospel role and all those 166 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 4: things that drummers are doing now. And when I brought that, 167 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 4: you know, the way that my dad would just penalize me, like, no, 168 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:34,599 Speaker 4: twenty twenty, we're up to twenty now, oh really forty. 169 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 2: The breakfast club, you know, detention detentions. 170 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 3: Yes, he you know. 171 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:44,959 Speaker 4: So just the fear of my dad's right hand signaling 172 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 4: you owe me money kept me very much in the pocket. 173 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 4: And so I'll say that that was the first half 174 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 4: of it. To be honest with you, probably the best 175 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 4: thing that ever happened in my life is me inheriting. 176 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 3: It's at least gotta be. 177 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 4: I'll say, seventy five hours of just Prince rehearsals and 178 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 4: I haven't even gotten through all of them yet, and 179 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 4: you know, it served me well then, but just to 180 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 4: hear how he runs rehearsals. 181 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 3: Now, the thing is he was also tired. 182 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 4: I got tapes of him be rating Lisa for reading 183 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 4: a comic book or. 184 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 3: Bobby slowing the beat down or whatever. 185 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 4: So just to hear him as a bandleader taught me 186 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:42,719 Speaker 4: a lot about musicianship and ways to interpret songs and 187 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 4: all those things, especially with the time, like the time 188 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:47,959 Speaker 4: they would always start off doing it like the record, 189 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 4: and he would always pushing more like no, you need 190 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 4: more chords there, and the whole like it has to 191 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 4: be better than the record. So I'll say that really 192 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 4: listening to a lot of prince rehearsals and my dad's 193 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 4: just tyranny era of being under his leadership is kind 194 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 4: of what built me now. But also the you know, 195 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 4: the whole underestimation card of people like scoffing like what 196 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 4: y'all about to do. 197 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 3: And you know, and then having to prove them wrong. 198 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 2: So on the hip hop side, just because again with Flee, 199 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 2: you asked him about a really specific careerd of punk culture, 200 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 2: which was interesting to see his reaction on the hip 201 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 2: hop side when you and. 202 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 3: Trico go those shows. But was there ever a. 203 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 2: Moment, because I mean, you know, you work with one 204 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 2: of the greatest MC's of all time back in those 205 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 2: teenage years or in your twenties whatever, where you saw 206 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 2: a hip hop show even after that, where you were like. 207 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 3: Okay, So here's the thing. 208 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 4: I probably see more carous One shows pre record deal 209 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 4: as far hip as hip hop was concerned, than any 210 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 4: other show. Philly, of course, has like five different colleges. 211 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 4: I wouldn't go to the clubs to see them, but 212 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 4: where it would be that like he Carris One's playing 213 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 4: at Cheney or at Lincoln or you know wherever is 214 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 4: on the main line. 215 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 3: So I've seen like three. 216 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 4: Or four blue print edutainment era Carris One shows. There 217 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 4: are a lot of tricks that I borrowed from him 218 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 4: that to this day work like Gangbusters. 219 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 3: On top of that, Kris One wrote a book in 220 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 3: nineteen ninety. 221 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 2: Five, I believe out of print. 222 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, and this book we just happened to be. 223 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 4: We were coming down from the Bay Area to LA 224 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 4: and we made a rest stop and you go to 225 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 4: the gas station, you know, the bus is fueling up, 226 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 4: and you go to the truck stop and there's all 227 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 4: types of you know, paulp. Novels and all those things 228 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 4: like throwaway books and Harlequin romance books. And then I 229 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 4: saw the bottom like Carris Ones, and I forgot. 230 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 2: What the name of the book was with the mind 231 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 2: or so I know. 232 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 4: Yeah and so, but it was really a guide to 233 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 4: the business of hip hop and we brought it, but 234 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 4: we kind of got it to playfully mock carris One because. 235 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 3: His voice was very easy to emulate. 236 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 4: So to read the entire book in the voice of 237 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 4: car ars One, and I mean they're telling you. He's 238 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 4: telling you everything, like always have thirty eight x ten 239 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 4: photos on your person, so that way you could negotiate 240 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 4: your way into a restaurant, say if you would like 241 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 4: to go to a red lobster and da da da. 242 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 4: You showed you know, your managers was, hey, I have 243 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 4: an artist here with me. So we at first it 244 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 4: was jokes, and then he talked about three things about 245 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 4: the stage. He says, when you go on stage, make 246 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 4: sure that you suit up your armor by wearing four 247 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 4: to five. He's like, make sure you have a T 248 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 4: shirt on. He's very specific, have a T shirt on, 249 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 4: like have a cutoff T shirt, and then a cotton shirt, 250 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 4: a different cotton shirt on top of that, and then 251 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 4: a button up shirt and a hoodie and a coat 252 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 4: and if you could do it a vest he say. 253 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 4: Then the reason is He's like it's a psychological trick 254 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 4: that you can play, which is basically, you come on 255 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 4: stage with all those things and song by song take 256 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 4: a layer off and the side of that tells the audience, Oh, 257 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 4: they're taking their job seriously and they're they're rolling up 258 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 4: their sleeves. So by the fifth you're just down to 259 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 4: your T shirt and that tells the audience like, oh, 260 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 4: he's really working hard. 261 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 3: So we laughed at that. 262 00:14:56,280 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 4: He's like a rhythmic run whenever your first song is like, 263 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 4: let it play, and then you rest left right like 264 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 4: he's giving instructions on what to do. And we would 265 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 4: laugh and laugh and mock and laugh and laugh and 266 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 4: mock and laugh and mock, and. 267 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 3: Then like we do it on stage. 268 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 4: But then the audience has responded to it, and suddenly 269 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 4: it wasn't funny anymore. 270 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 3: It was like, oh, damn, this does work. 271 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 4: And his biggest trick was and you know, I really 272 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 4: did it during the D'Angelo tour. He's like, always like, 273 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 4: whatever your your your most prominent verses is always had 274 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 4: the dj uh put the music down to a whisper 275 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 4: and then talk to your audience and break down. And 276 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 4: he said it in a way if you ever seen 277 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 4: my philosophy video. The first verse he does a cappella 278 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 4: let us begin where he does that of spoken word, 279 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 4: and we started doing that trick and that shit worked, 280 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 4: so so you know, it started off as jokes, just 281 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 4: like saying it in the authoritative voice of kars one, 282 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 4: and suddenly that became our. 283 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 2: Bible thirty five years later. That's why Treek's wearing fur 284 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 2: coats and robes on stage and slowly. 285 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 4: Yes, to this day, it's that that book still stays 286 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 4: with us. 287 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 2: I did interview kras When one time, and he was 288 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 2: at a red lobster and that blew my mind. So 289 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 2: it's funny that you choose that restaurant for anyone that 290 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 2: wants a great Karras One story the Quest Love Supreme 291 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 2: episode with Chris Rock with what is the punchline? My 292 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 2: rhymes will oh, my rhymes will destroy you? Yes, exactly, 293 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 2: it required listening. Last question you asked Flee what peer 294 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 2: never reached the level that they deserved? 295 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 3: Right? 296 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 2: And you know this doesn't have to be Philly, it 297 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 2: could be anywhere and again your formative years. But and 298 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 2: this question is asked with love to whatever the artist is, 299 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 2: But do you feel that way about anybody that you 300 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 2: truly admired or were absolutely amazed by their stage show 301 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 2: that never translated to album or to the type of 302 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 2: career they deserved. 303 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 4: Okay, so when I was asking for you that question, 304 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 4: I was thinking about Fishbone, and you know, especially after 305 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 4: doing the slide doc, I asked Flee about what happened 306 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,919 Speaker 4: a minute after they got off stage at SNL to 307 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 4: do under the Bridge something. I didn't know the backstory, 308 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 4: but I clearly saw a unit fighting against the success 309 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 4: that they were about to experience. And there's nothing more 310 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 4: fearsome than sort of rabbit holing into worrying about what 311 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 4: other people think. I'll say, probably on the hip hop 312 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 4: side of things, like the first time I ever heard 313 00:17:55,359 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 4: Bean's rhyme. Beanie Siegel came to my house house with 314 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 4: Malik b And I mean, I've told the story and 315 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 4: the lore of what eventually became Black Lily, but kind 316 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 4: of the jam sessions at my house that let the 317 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 4: things fall apart was literally like a screenwriter couldn't ask 318 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 4: for a more perfect scenario in which Blow in the 319 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 4: ninth grade is singing this crezy like you know, we 320 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 4: love loud now but like to watch a ninth grader 321 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 4: do all that weird shit, like what kind of crack 322 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 4: is this guy smoking? Like he's making bird noises and shit. 323 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 4: And then you got a ten year old Jasmine Sullivan 324 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 4: who clearly should not be in that house. Music with 325 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:41,199 Speaker 4: the pizza Yeah, music as the pizza guy, and like 326 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 4: literally it's like I'm exaggerating this whole moment. And to me, 327 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 4: the tipping point was like when Malick to start bringing 328 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 4: his boys over. I didn't know his boys were Freeway 329 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 4: and Beanie and all those cats and whatnot. 330 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:00,199 Speaker 3: And man, Beanie did the. 331 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 4: Verse that he did on Adrenaline, but that verse like 332 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 4: Beanie had no mind to structure, like, oh, let me 333 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 4: just do twenty four and he had if you listen 334 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 4: to Adrenaline on things fall apart, like everything in rhymes 335 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 4: with and them easily went on for ten minutes in 336 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 4: a row, like it gave Tarik pause. 337 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:23,880 Speaker 3: It was like we didn't know he was that good. 338 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 4: Like he just kept rhyming, and to me, I was like, 339 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 4: there's literally just he's literally painted every scenario that you 340 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 4: can rhyme within them, every scenario Like he talked about 341 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 4: gun battles and drug scenarios and his lifestyle and going 342 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 4: to games and the celebrities meeting women and all that stuff. 343 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 3: But after eight minutes, it just became a. 344 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 4: There's more, there's more, there's more by the end, like 345 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 4: a high tiled the. 346 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: Rich, like, Yo, we gotta get that dude on the record. 347 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 3: Like and yes we did have. 348 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 4: We had first DIBs on both, even Beanie, but we 349 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 4: weren't in the business mind state to push him further. 350 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:12,360 Speaker 4: So I'm glad it worked out the way it did. 351 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 4: But for me, man, I just wonder in an alternate world, 352 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 4: like man like Beanie was the wasn't still is the god, 353 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 4: you know what I mean? And I just wish the 354 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 4: world knew. 355 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 2: That level of that side of him. 356 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I wish things didn't play out the way that 357 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 4: they played out, and that he just allowed that transformation 358 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 4: to happen. 359 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 2: Leaning to that side of his artistry 360 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:10,160 Speaker 1: Questlov shows a production of iHeartRadio.