1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:02,000 Speaker 1: All right, job. 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 2: All across the USC Compton, Watts Bay to LA. Come 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 2: on to California day from Rowley the Valley. We represent 4 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 2: that Keller County. So if you're keeping it real on 5 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 2: your side of your town, you tune into Gainst the 6 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 2: Chronicles the Coronic Goals. 7 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: He gonna tell you how we goals. 8 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 2: If I lie, my nose will grow like Pinocchio. We're 9 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 2: gonna tell you the truth and nothing but the choose 10 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 2: the chronic goals. 11 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 1: This is not your average shows. 12 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 2: You're now tuned into the rail mc ain't, Big Change 13 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 2: and Big Steels the streets. 14 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome to the Gangst the Chronicles podcast, the production 15 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: of iHeart Radio and Black Effect Podcast Network. Make sure 16 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: you download the iHeart app and subscribe to Against the Chronicles. 17 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:57,639 Speaker 1: For my Apple users, hit the Purple Michael on your 18 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: front screen. Subscribed to Against the Chronicles, leave a start 19 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 1: rating the comment what's happening, What's happening? What's happening tonight? 20 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: We have a very we got a very very special 21 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: guest in the house tonight. He was born to the 22 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 1: world as Rowdy Williams, but you know him as Gangster NIP. 23 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: Already broadcasting live all the way from Houston, Texas. What's 24 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: happening with you? Brother? 25 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 3: Oh man, I'm just telling Landguard is good. You know, 26 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 3: I'm just blessed to be here. Man. You know what 27 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 3: I'm saying. I appreciate you for having me, for sure. 28 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 3: That's what's up for. 29 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: Sure, man, Thank you for coming on. 30 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 3: Man. 31 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: We've had a lot of people. Man. You know, when 32 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: I've started mixing the album a few weeks ago, I 33 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: started getting people hitting me up on an inbox like 34 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: gangster Nip. That's my he produced one of my favorite 35 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: albums of all time, south Park Cycle before. But before 36 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: we get into that, man, we got to go back 37 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: way to the beginning. Wait at the beginning. So we 38 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: were born and raised in Houston and right, yes, sir, 39 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: south Park, south Park to be yes sir in south Park. 40 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: Yeah that's your hood, man, tell me a little bit 41 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: about it. Man. 42 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 3: You know, South Park is just you know, it's just 43 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 3: a rugged you know, it's like any other hood. Man, 44 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 3: it's a rugged hood. 45 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:15,679 Speaker 1: Man. 46 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 3: You know, you gotta be strong, you know, to live there. 47 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 3: You know. 48 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: I went to. 49 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 3: Kelso Elementary, Hartman Junior High and Jesse H. Jones High School. 50 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 3: You know, you know when you got you know, your killers, dealers, hustlers, stillers, 51 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 3: whatever it is. Man. Like I said, it's just the 52 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 3: average hood of man. You just got to be strong 53 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 3: to live there. 54 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 1: Okay. Now, when you were in high school, I think 55 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: your high school is known for having for your rappers, 56 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: right you had a lot of rappers to attend high school, right, Yes, sir? 57 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: Who were some of those people? 58 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:58,559 Speaker 3: Man? We had like we had like clen Day Cat, 59 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 3: you know, s PC. Shout out to clun Day Cat. 60 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 3: You know. We had murder one, you know, murder one. 61 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 3: Shout out to the sc murder one. You know. We 62 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 3: had a c. Chill. Ac Chill is a brother one 63 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 3: our VC brother that passed away. But he was right there. 64 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 3: He was right there with us the whole time. He 65 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 3: was cold blooded too. You know. We had a guy 66 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 3: by the name of k Rock Deaf. K Rock Death 67 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 3: was you know what I'm saying. He was. He was 68 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 3: one of the generals, you know in the school. So, 69 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 3: you know, in high school at the time, clund Day Cat. 70 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 3: You know, before I learned how the rap, you know, 71 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 3: Clunday Cat was the best. You know what I'm saying. 72 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 3: So you know I hung with Cat. We was real good. 73 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 3: We was real close. You know. That's how I learned 74 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 3: how to rap, just hanging, you know, but I didn't 75 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 3: know you know what what I had, you know, inside 76 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 3: of me, you know. So you know Cat was the one, 77 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 3: you know, to help bring it out, not by I 78 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 3: didn't anything for me, but just you know, just rubbing 79 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 3: off on me. Just the scheme of rap, you know 80 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So that's what it was. And when 81 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 3: Kat left, that's when I took over. You know, I 82 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 3: hadn't got seasoned, so I started, you know, battle rapping 83 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 3: for money. You know, cats would come to you know, 84 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 3: to my school too, you know, the battle rap. And 85 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 3: back then, man, you know, brother ain't had no money 86 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 3: or nothing, you know what I'm saying. But you know 87 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 3: I had the gangsters. Man, the gangsters are putting money 88 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 3: on me because remember I was the best in the school, 89 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 3: so the gangsters will put money on me. You know, 90 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:39,919 Speaker 3: I flipped that money by blowing the you know, the 91 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 3: MC who came to the school and then they'll give 92 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 3: me a piece of the money. So that's how it 93 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 3: was at Jones, man, it was it was just it 94 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 3: was just hardcore rappers. Man. We had more It's so 95 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 3: many more, but you know in the nurse chair that 96 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 3: you know, those were like the top names. 97 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: It was the main ones. Now, your style was very unique, 98 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: very descriptive, very visual. That was one of the things 99 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: that come in. Like I said, when I got hit 100 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: to you, it was through my boy shut Out, Clint Cazeno, 101 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: my roommate New Mexico State University. When I was playing ball, 102 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: he had hit me, you know, the south Park cycle. 103 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: It was very descriptive. But you had flows, though, bro, 104 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 1: and I was very original. When did you come up 105 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: with the whole horror core because you are the invendor 106 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: of horror court that whole genre just descriptive violence and mayhem. 107 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: That's the only way I can describe it. How did 108 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: you come up with that? Well, man, I really didn't. 109 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 3: You know. My idol is ice Tea, you know what 110 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 3: I'm saying, rhyme wise, and my other idel is two short, 111 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 3: So I have the music of a two short, but 112 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 3: I have the hard rhymes you know of an ice 113 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 3: c So I just I used to just listen to 114 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 3: Ice Tea a lot, man, you know, and I just 115 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 3: liked how hard he was because nobody was doing the 116 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 3: gangster rap and ice was so hard, you know, and 117 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 3: that's just you know, that's really art of me, you know, 118 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 3: to where to how I wanted to rap, But I 119 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 3: didn't know that it was going to go deeper, you 120 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying that. You know, then gangster rap, 121 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 3: horror courts deepen against the rap is more. It's more vivid, 122 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 3: you know, it's more, it's more detailed, it's more imagery. 123 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 3: And you have to have a you know, you have 124 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 3: to have a certain skill stick, you know. So the 125 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 3: homie Bushwick rest in peace. He was doing an interview 126 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 3: with a guy named nord Ward and a white guy 127 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:35,239 Speaker 3: in in Austin, I think, doing one of those what's 128 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 3: that south by Southwest? And he asked, he asked, Bushwig, 129 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 3: did I create hardcore? Bushwick said no. He said he 130 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 3: didn't have to create it because his horrid court you know, 131 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 3: he wasn't gonna he said, you wasn't gonna get any 132 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 3: other style, and and and they wasn't. You know, That's 133 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 3: that's all I ever did. I was I was wrapping 134 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 3: her hold court Man eighty three, eighty four. I just 135 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 3: didn't know it was harborcle I called it psycho rap, 136 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 3: you know, that's what I called it, psycho rap. 137 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: You know, I want to go back to one of 138 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: not to cut you off, I want to go back 139 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: to one of the most profound lyrics I heard on 140 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: your album, marriage me and your mama getting married soon 141 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: after I ro I'm a killer at the honeymoon. That's 142 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: how you know. That's real descriptive. And I think you 143 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: did take things to a whole nother level because you 144 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: wouldn't know. It wasn't just that she was on there 145 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: saying the crazies stuff. It was the way you delivered it. 146 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: It sounded real. Man. 147 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 3: I was like, man, this dude is off the chain. Well, 148 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 3: you know, like I said, Man, you know, I'm from 149 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 3: south Park, you know. Yeah, you know you had to 150 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 3: be hard in Solve Park. You know, you have to 151 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 3: be able to make it through. You know, Onner the 152 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 3: strong would survive. 153 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: You know. 154 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 3: I was just a young souldierck there, just you know, 155 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 3: creating my own style batter rapping whoever came, you know, 156 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 3: and I just was just just strong them, just with 157 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 3: stuff that they never heard. Remember, was never heard nobody, 158 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 3: you know, nobody wasn't doing it, so that I didn't 159 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 3: know I was doing it. I was just doing my 160 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 3: normal style that I that that I rapped in, you 161 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. So I never really knew that 162 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 3: that the industry with coining, you know, to be horror core. 163 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 3: You know, like I said, I started, I called a 164 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 3: psycho rap h. 165 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: It was damn sure A lot of people that followed 166 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: after you after you released that album. That was a 167 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: very important album to hip hop because you did usher 168 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: in a new style with a lot of people from 169 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: I could think of a few people off the top, 170 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: like Brother link E, Sean Maud of Detroit, even Eminem. 171 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: It had a real heavy influence on a lot of people. 172 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: And how did you get discovered? Like how did you 173 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 1: look up a rap? A lot? 174 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 3: Man? I like to say, shout out to Scarface. Man, 175 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 3: it was through Scarface. You know. I was at a 176 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 3: club called Club Infinity, and every Friday night they would 177 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 3: have rap contests, know, every Friday night. So what happened was, 178 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 3: you know, I ended up winning like three three, three 179 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 3: times straight and that third time, you know, Scarface was there. 180 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:15,839 Speaker 3: He he had just dropped you know, the first original Scarface. 181 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 3: You know, small time dope game, Cold Caine, pushing rocks 182 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:22,439 Speaker 3: on the block, I'm never broke. And you know what 183 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 3: I'm saying, He had just dropped that, and he was 184 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 3: there for that third that third contest, and I won. 185 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 3: So you know, he came to me and he and 186 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 3: he said he wanted he wanted to let Ja Prince 187 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 3: hear me. So I told him, just you know, bringing him, 188 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 3: you know, next, you know, next Friday. So he actually 189 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 3: brought him. So I won again. So I won four 190 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:51,199 Speaker 3: times straight. So after that, Jay took me in the restroom, 191 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 3: you know with the with the brotherhood, with the you know, 192 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 3: you know, with them killers, and he wanted me to 193 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 3: just straight up wrap, no beat, no nothing. So I 194 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 3: was just going just rhyme for rhymes, hard as fuck 195 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,959 Speaker 3: to just shit that he had never heard, he had 196 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 3: never heard. Keep in mind, this was a Friday night. 197 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 3: So I was beating all on the motherfucking mirrors and shit, 198 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. I was hitting the mirrors, 199 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:21,199 Speaker 3: breaking the mirrors. Man, I was straight sped out. So 200 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 3: after he heard me, you know what I'm saying, he 201 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 3: loved it. So he had asked me to come back 202 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 3: to that same club Saturday morning meet him at like 203 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 3: twelve o'clock. Once I met him there. I had a 204 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 3: CD with everybody on it. I had Dopiel of the Terrace, 205 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,839 Speaker 3: I had Ka Reno, I had point Blank, I had 206 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 3: Murder of One, I had ac Chill, I had all 207 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 3: the fellas on the CD. But Jay said he just 208 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 3: wanted me to go solo. And then when he said that, 209 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 3: he cut me a chick right then and there inside 210 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 3: of his car, cut me a chick. And two hours 211 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 3: after that, I was riding ben w So. 212 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: Your whole life changed just in the matter with a 213 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: chance meeting the scarface. No, let me ask you this. 214 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: Let me go back, because that sounds like a movie 215 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 1: to me. You in the bathroom rapping for Jay Princeton, 216 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 1: you seeing the type of stuff that you said up 217 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: but they they're just mesmerized here you rapp. 218 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 3: You know that style was so hard, man, you couldn't 219 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 3: you couldn't do nothing but beat mesmerized. 220 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: Man. 221 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 3: That ship was you know, it was so it was 222 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 3: so vivid, you know what I'm saying. But at the 223 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 3: same time, man, you know I was about that ship, 224 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So you know I was 225 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 3: I was robbing you know, coming up man, You know 226 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 3: you remember I think it was like horror movie rape. 227 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 3: A task it man, you know, now think about it, 228 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 3: chiseket a task it. The name of that song is 229 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 3: horror movie rap. That's how the industry coined it. Horror core. 230 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 3: My song horror movie rap. 231 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 1: For those that don't know, man, because your style is 232 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: so descriptive, man, could you give me like eight bars 233 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: from that? Man? They just just ate of them, man, 234 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:08,719 Speaker 1: not all am not the whole thing. 235 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 3: For those that might never heard it, which which one? Now? 236 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 3: Let me give you, Let me give you that on. 237 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:20,719 Speaker 3: Let me steal a psycho ass nigger. I'm dissing your 238 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 3: crew if you don't like the way I wrapped tough ship, nigga, 239 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 3: fuck you, time for a murder, I'm thinny, kick ass 240 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 3: breast feed new born babies with unlaided gas blow gushing out. 241 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 3: Your head is getting thicky and thicker. Put some tockling 242 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 3: on your arm so it can taste like a snicker. 243 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 3: You know what I'm talking about. 244 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was that ship. And I just picture because 245 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: I know Jay right, I just could picture Jay's being 246 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: back there, like, oh my god. 247 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 3: Now picture this shit. This ship was. This ship was 248 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 3: late late ninety mm hm. This ship was ninety man, 249 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 3: I was kicking that shit, you know. So he couldn't 250 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 3: do nothing, man, and shit was just so it was 251 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 3: so distinctive, man, that's all the world. It was just 252 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 3: something that he never had, you know. So he had 253 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 3: to grab that, man. 254 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: And it took off. So now you want to wrap 255 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: a lot of folks. You got you a check. How 256 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: soon did y'all get to work with Craft and the album? 257 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,959 Speaker 3: Oh? Man, soon soon as I got that check, man, 258 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 3: probably about I said about a good week. Now. You know, 259 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 3: I was at the studio, you know, with Dopey, you know, 260 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 3: egypt E, the terrorists, you know, John Beto, you know, 261 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 3: Beato did a lot of scarf play stuff. You know, 262 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 3: Beatle had them drum sure. Yeah, he actually did that 263 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 3: that song Csycho. You know he did that cycle with 264 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 3: I just spit so Beato, Beato once cold blooded man. 265 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: You know. 266 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 3: So I was in there, you know, like I said, 267 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 3: with Dope, e egypt E, we did atisca task and 268 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 3: we did the guy to get out the game. Beato 269 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 3: did the you know, the psycho and it was just 270 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 3: you know, it's just what it was. I was, like 271 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 3: I said, I was just a young nigga out there 272 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 3: just just battle rapping. Man. It just happened to, you know, 273 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 3: be at the club, winning these contests and faces. You know, 274 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 3: just happened to be there. Man. Shout out to Scarface, 275 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 3: shout out to J Prince. You know what I'm saying. 276 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 3: You know, I owe them, I owe them everything. Man. 277 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 3: So you know it's all love. 278 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: Like the homie sugar Free say, if you stay ready, 279 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: you ain't got to be ready. You was prepared for 280 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: the opportunity and to happen for you. You know, let 281 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: me ask you this. So you're all working on the album, 282 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: and any time did anyone can rap a Lot ever 283 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: come to you and say, hey man, you know we 284 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: dig what you're doing, but can you tone it down 285 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: a little bitter? They just let you just go full gas. 286 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 3: Shoe, you know, rapp a lot. He's gangster man, let 287 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 3: me and let me go. They let me go. That's 288 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 3: how I was able to write the check it for Bunswick. 289 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: Oh for sure we're gonna get We're gonna get into 290 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: that right there. We're gonna get into that right there. 291 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: So how long did it take for you guys to 292 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: record the album? Because I know sometimes for me working 293 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: in the industry, you may the time you signed someone 294 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: until they actually get to release they projects. Sometimes it 295 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: may be two or three years. How long did it 296 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: take before you got your release date? 297 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 3: Shit? About three months? Man, we dropped it late. We 298 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 3: got to late ninety one. You know, the industry got 299 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 3: it set up to where it was like ninety two, 300 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 3: But it was actually December of ninety one. 301 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: So December ninety one, that's when it first came off. 302 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I said about Like I said, man, it ain't 303 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 3: take about I say about three months, because you know, 304 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 3: other people had had to get in the studio on 305 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 3: all that. But it ain't taken me about three months 306 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 3: because I was you know, back then, we had all 307 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 3: our rounds memorize so I could go in there. All 308 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 3: I needed was to beat, and I was just going 309 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 3: there and just just spit the shit. Man, you know 310 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. 311 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: So let me ask you this. Man, the album comes out, 312 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: you start doing shows and everything. I can just imagine 313 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: the type of crowd that you condre up at your shows. Man, 314 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: is it all like God's look to it? 315 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 3: Man? That ship Man was so raw, you know, just 316 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 3: just just just the gangsterst man, the hardest, the most ruthless. 317 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 3: You know people you know, yeah, just come out to 318 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 3: the shoulder, you know, to hear that shit. That's it 319 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 3: was just so different. It was just different, man, you 320 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like like the big homes Shaq. 321 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 3: You know, I just talked to Shack Monday. You know, 322 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 3: Monday was my birthday. You know, yeah already you know. 323 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 3: Shaquille O'Neil is one of my biggest fans, and you 324 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 3: know I had the opportunity to talk to him Monday 325 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 3: and he was just telling me man, you know, you 326 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 3: know basically how you know how big old fan he was. 327 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 3: He been my fan. They used to come down there, 328 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 3: come to Houston when when Shaq was rapping, and he 329 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 3: would be asking rapper out where I was. I might 330 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 3: have been out of town, you know, doing the show. 331 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 3: You know this, Shaq would always holler at me, man, 332 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 3: So I like to stay shout out to Big Shack 333 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 3: one Love. You know that's the diesel man, that's my 334 00:16:59,000 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 3: kneesle her. 335 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: But you got a lot of fans man, My big 336 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: bro Bobcat, my god brother DJ Bobcat. I remember we 337 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: were listening to the it was the Ghetto Boys album 338 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: I Forget which one was. It might have been to 339 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: death Dowis apart. Yeah, and you had a And that's 340 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: when he discovered you. And I was playing in the 341 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: CD or whatever and he heards your first he said, 342 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 1: who is that right there sitting in shirts drinking the 343 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: forty of holy water? 344 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,120 Speaker 3: That was that brand? That was that song bringing on Man? 345 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 1: You gassed man? 346 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a battle rap song. That was one 347 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 3: of the verses man, that really that really helped spawned 348 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 3: me as well. You know what I'm saying. Everywhere I go, 349 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 3: I'm talking about right today, any where I go people 350 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 3: you know, they spent that verse, you know, all the 351 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 3: time everywhere. Man, you know, we smoking motherfucker. Plus I 352 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 3: keep dovies. I'm the one who told that nigga to 353 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 3: go and singing in that loviis And what's so crazy? 354 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 3: I went to the end of the day at Lewis. 355 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, let me ask you this man, with your lyrics, 356 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: man being so over the top. Back then, a lot 357 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: of rappers was catching heat, like you know, they was 358 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 1: over there running brother CDs over, putting them in the 359 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: trash and all kinds of stuff. Did you ever have 360 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 1: the rapper lite that we have any issues? Man? Which 361 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 1: was as far as your music. 362 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 3: No, they never had any issue with me. Like I said, man, 363 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 3: J you know, Jay wanted people around him. That was 364 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 3: you know, yeah, I get that. 365 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: I'm talking about the outside forcesause I'm talking about like 366 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: the law enforcement and everything like that, because you were talking, Yes, 367 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: that's I ain't talking about the I'm talking about society 368 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: in general. 369 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, man, you know you had a I was on 370 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 3: the news, you know, probably like ninety three on the 371 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 3: news when a you know, when a guy killed a 372 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 3: cop man and and they said he was he was 373 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 3: he was bringing my song, you know, Slaughter. Slaughter was 374 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 3: the cop killing song on you know, on the on 375 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:07,360 Speaker 3: the on the album, and he was banging my mother 376 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 3: from the song. They had my lyrics all on TV, 377 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 3: all on the news, you know, and you know, dope, 378 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 3: E are the terrorists STC. You know. I think he 379 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 3: had got pulled over, you know, and I think he 380 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 3: told the cops who he was, and they asked about 381 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 3: me what things to nip at man, you know, you know, 382 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 3: but it's all good man. But I was just raw man, 383 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 3: you know. So they would always have my shit on 384 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,679 Speaker 3: the news, you know, putt my lyrics out there. You 385 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 3: know saying this, saying every shit. Like I said, man 386 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 3: back then, I ain't give a fuck. You know, I'm 387 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 3: gonna pick that ship, you know what I'm saying. You 388 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,360 Speaker 3: know how it goes. You know, I got I got 389 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 3: one right them. The new song you leave us No Choice, 390 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 3: that's the name of the song. So be looking for 391 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 3: that that's coming soon. 392 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. I always like to shut off to the trolls 393 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: out there. You know, it's always one dumb motherfucker you're 394 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: talking about one thing, and it's always one dude to 395 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: come on the show talk about some whole others. Bye 396 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: bye chump. But anyway back to this. 397 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,719 Speaker 3: Well, you know, man, you know I fuck with the 398 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 3: trolls because you know, you know a lot of time 399 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 3: the trolls, you know, may not really trolls. They just 400 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 3: uneducated to the to who created the style. You know, 401 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 3: they're just uneducated, man, you know what I'm saying. That's 402 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 3: why I keep me in ink pin. You know, I 403 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 3: keep an ink pin for the trolls. Now. My mama 404 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 3: always told me a black man always got to have 405 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 3: an ink pin, you know, just in case you need 406 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 3: you need to sign a check. You know what I'm saying. Oh, 407 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 3: cut a nick. 408 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: Here we go. I would expect you. I would expect 409 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:50,959 Speaker 1: you to be card a rounds and stuff like that. 410 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: So the dope part about that though, man, you being 411 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: on rap a lot, none of that deterred them from 412 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 1: pushing forward with you, because usually the those major record labels, 413 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 1: when they have any type of resistance, they get scared 414 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 1: to pull the plug on everything. 415 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I think they didn't really know, you know, 416 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,199 Speaker 3: really how to how to promote it, man. So I 417 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 3: just think they put that ship, you know, they let 418 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 3: it go on the underground. Man. They let it go 419 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 3: on the underground just to see what, you know, what 420 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 3: it would do. And you know, I hit Billboard with 421 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 3: no promotion, no radio play, nothing, but you know underground 422 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 3: promotion magazines, you know that that type of shit. Word 423 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 3: them out and and the ship just floodished. Think about it. 424 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 3: I hit Billboard with no promotion, so no radio play, 425 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 3: you know, just the strength of my hard rhymes, man, 426 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So it is what it is, man, 427 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 3: It's just the facts. You can't deny that. That's why, 428 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 3: you know, you know, the trolls don't really you know, 429 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 3: they just need to be educated, man, you know what 430 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 3: I'm saying. So I said shout out. 431 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: You know, yeah, this said, Man, we ain't gonna pay 432 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: them dudes. No, never mind tonight it's all about you, 433 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 1: brother and paying the MARDs to you and what you 434 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,120 Speaker 1: got going on. Because I remember at that time, man, 435 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 1: it got real serious and rap man, especially because I 436 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: remember Ice Tea took a lot of heat for the 437 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 1: cop Killer album, man, and they were just out there. 438 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 1: You know, they was pretty much kicking Brothers off the lake, 439 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 1: but they was letting people go. He was cutting Brothers 440 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 1: checks and saying, you got to take this somewhere else. 441 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: We're not having it. So you do this, man, this 442 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: time you full fledged. Like you said, I believe that 443 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 1: that appearance that you having to get a boys album, 444 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 1: it definitely took you to another level and elevated you. Right, 445 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,959 Speaker 1: So now you're in the fold. Man, how did you 446 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: come up to do the song for Bush would be 447 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 1: a reci Peace Bushwack? 448 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 3: Well, you know the album was coming, man, and you 449 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 3: know J Prince had came to me, and you know, 450 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 3: he asked me, you know, you know that I want 451 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 3: to you know, did I want to write something? 452 00:22:58,520 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: You know? 453 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 3: Or would I write for Bill but ship. I ain't 454 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,199 Speaker 3: really know what to write at the time, you know, 455 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 3: so you know, you know, Galveston is about an hour away. 456 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,199 Speaker 3: So what happened was, you know, Jay had rented a 457 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 3: beach house, so you know, we all you know, the 458 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 3: whole rap a lot, you know what I'm saying. Possey 459 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 3: went up went up to the to the beach house 460 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 3: and you know back then, we you know, I was 461 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 3: smoking hallowed and shit, you know what I'm saying. So 462 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,479 Speaker 3: Bushid was up there and I just had came up, 463 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 3: you know with that because it hit him. You know what, 464 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 3: what could I write for? You know what I'm saying, 465 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 3: for a midget? You know, you know one of the 466 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 3: one of the Chucky movies was out, so it just 467 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 3: it just fit perfect, man. And then I just wrote 468 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 3: the ship right up there, you know. And you know 469 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 3: I got a bunch of bread, you know, for doing it. 470 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 3: Shout out to J Prince, you know what I'm saying, 471 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 3: much love, like I said, man, everything that J Prince. 472 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,120 Speaker 3: You know, even though I had my own label now, 473 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 3: you know, but I thank God for the time. You know, 474 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 3: you know that that I was gonna rap a lot. 475 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: For sure, that was a good look with for you, man, 476 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: and you did. I believe four albums total would rap 477 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: a lot, right. 478 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 3: I think it was five to thea Let's see south 479 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 3: Park Psycho Psychic Thoughts interview with A Killer, the Genius, 480 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 3: the Genius, And I think, man, I think it's probably 481 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 3: one more. I know, I know those four for sure. 482 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 1: You did, man, You know the thing is for you 483 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: to have four or five records with them, Man, that's big. 484 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: It was a lot of artists. It's most artists only 485 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: get to release one major album, man, And you kind 486 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 1: of got it out the mud. Because if I'm correct, 487 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: and correct me if I'm wrong, the south Park cycle 488 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: came out independently on Wrap a Lot Records. It was 489 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 1: just Wrap a Lot through their own distribution. 490 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 3: Right to let me see, I think no, I think 491 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 3: by that time, you know, I think they had got 492 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 3: I think they had got distribution at that particular time. Yeah, 493 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 3: because that's how I got. That's how it went worldwide, 494 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 3: That's how I got. That's how I got the billboard, 495 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 3: you know. So So I think yeah. 496 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 1: Because you know, because you eventually wound up getting to 497 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: deal with priority, right. 498 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, we had priority and the other people man before priority, 499 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 3: it'll come to me, but yeah, we definitely had the priority. 500 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:33,199 Speaker 1: Yeah mm hmmm. So I noticed you would be on 501 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: a lot of the gett A Boy releases right right, 502 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: Scarface always and he was the one that brought in 503 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: the game. It makes sense now, right, you have a 504 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 1: relationship that you had with them. So, Man, I want 505 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 1: to go back, man to something that we talked about 506 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: a little bit earlier. Man, we talked about censorship. How 507 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 1: your record label let you go. Do you think you 508 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: would be able to release a record like South Park 509 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: Cycle the Day in twenty twenty three? 510 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 3: I think I will. You know, my album about to 511 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 3: come out, you know, the Greatest Horror Volume two, you know, 512 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 3: But ship, I don't. Between you and I, I don't 513 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 3: released you know a few hardor core you know albums 514 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 3: that's on all major platforms. Man, I gotta do it. 515 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 3: Just go anywhere iTunes whatever type in gangs to them 516 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 3: g A n x S t A g A n 517 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 3: x x t A. You know, if you don't have 518 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 3: the X in it, then then then that's not that's 519 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 3: not mine. Put up eight albums. I just put up 520 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 3: like eight albums. 521 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: Y'all hear that out there? Go support this brother's work. 522 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: He's still bringing that work, He's still swinging that blade. 523 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 3: Psych Ward Entertainment, man, that's the name of my label, 524 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 3: psych Ward Entertainment. Like I'm saying, you can go on 525 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 3: any platform and just type in G A N N 526 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,919 Speaker 3: T A NIP and you're gonna see the Guard of 527 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 3: Horror Coord, the Creator of Horror Coord. You know what 528 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 3: I'm saying, Guard of Horror coord, Creator of Horror Coord. 529 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 3: You know average like that that you you know that's 530 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 3: and then you'll see why I created the shit, you know. So, yeah, 531 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 3: I ain't shit changed. The shit is the same, you 532 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:29,400 Speaker 3: know what I'm talking about. So I mean steal psycho too, 533 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 3: you know what I'm talking about. So I got eight 534 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 3: of them bangers. You know what I'm saying. If you 535 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 3: want to just see, go see you know what I'm saying. 536 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 3: So that way you can, you know, you can, you'll 537 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 3: know how the shit really came about, you know what 538 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 3: I'm saying. Now. One thing about me, man, I'm a 539 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 3: you know, I'm a a Brother Lynch fan. Shout out 540 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 3: to Brother Lynch. I call him the Guard of his 541 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 3: style rip gud. One thing about me I don't do, hey, 542 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 3: I do elevate and congratulate and celebrate, you know, shout 543 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,439 Speaker 3: out to the home each some each something. That's the Homer. 544 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 3: He came to Houston, did a show, and and and 545 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 3: and bless me to get on the show with him, 546 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 3: you know, paid me to get on the show, and 547 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 3: then did a did a song with me. See that's 548 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 3: real right there. You know what I'm saying. And I 549 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 3: call him, you know, the the god of acid acid rap. See, 550 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 3: so everybody have their own little thing. That's why I'll 551 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 3: be tripping when they be trying to say a record 552 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 3: each Sam never said he did Horricort, brother Lynch never 553 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 3: said he did Holcort. 554 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 1: No, they could be inspired by somebody, you know. It 555 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 1: ain't nothing wrong with taking inspiration from something else and 556 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: putting your own twist on it. Because those brothers are 557 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: definitely original. 558 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, most definitely. So you know on that you you 559 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,479 Speaker 3: have to ask them. But you know, I'm just you know, 560 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 3: I'm just like to show loved. You know what I'm 561 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 3: saying to cats Man because I'm fans as well, you know, 562 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 3: I'm I'm I'm one of their fans as well. So 563 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 3: I would like to do really, I would like to 564 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 3: do a show like a tour with me, Brother Lynz 565 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 3: E Shim Take nine. You know what I'm saying, all 566 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 3: of them, you know, Stephen King, Gordon, all of these cats. Man. 567 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 3: You know I got love man one thing by me. 568 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 3: I don't do eight. You know what I'm saying. I 569 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 3: just innovate and create, motivate and celebrate. You know what 570 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 3: I'm saying. 571 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: That's all you can do, man, That's all we're supposed 572 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: to do is black folks. You know what I'm saying, 573 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: All this unnecessary drama and the women and all that stuff. 574 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: I don't do all that either, bro, because you know, 575 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: life too short for all that. Man, Yes, sir, And 576 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: there's definitely a lot of people out here that love you, man, 577 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 1: That's what I was telling brothers. Man. See the problem man, 578 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 1: I see in hip hop a lot of times you would 579 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: have veteran artists and people would get stuck on that 580 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: one classic album. And you're telling me, over than that, 581 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: them brothers are still doing music. This brother got eight 582 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: nine more albums that out there for y'all consumption. Go 583 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 1: support them. And I think the biggest part of it 584 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 1: is that's why I wanted to bring you on here, 585 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: is when you're searching you you got the King snip 586 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: because you had a couple of different spelling your name. 587 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: Right then, girl, you are so lazy nowadays, if they 588 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: can't find it, they just assume ain't nothing there and 589 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 1: they go on to the next thing. So you're hearing 590 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: the brother say that name one more time. 591 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 3: So then you got to you gotta type it end. 592 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,719 Speaker 3: You know, I got my own label, Psyche Ward Entertainment, 593 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 3: and my name is still g A n x S 594 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 3: t A n I P. I'm gonna stay it again. 595 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 3: G A n x S t A n I P. 596 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. The X only means the 597 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 3: X is unknown. It means xing out all of b s. 598 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 3: You know, I have my own I have my own label. 599 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 3: I'm doing my own thing. You know I'm down with 600 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 3: the nation. That's why the X is unknown. You know 601 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 3: I roll with the guards. I'm the guard of Hall Record. 602 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 3: You know you can take that and let it alone. 603 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 3: It is what it is. You know, my album then 604 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,959 Speaker 3: come out. My album did come out worldwide. 605 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 1: You know. 606 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 3: First, I Hate to Be a Boy three different times 607 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 3: on three different albums. You know, I got golden platinum plaque. 608 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying I got those for my album. 609 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 3: I got those for writing the Chucky for Butschwick. 610 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: You know, you know platinum, pat, you know, speaking the 611 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 1: golden platinum like you saw that, Joe. Butden's just got 612 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 1: his gold plaque for Pump It Up right right? I 613 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: would think about no, man, you think South Park Cycle on? 614 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 3: So when gold on? So far? 615 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 1: You think that, when is the last time you ever 616 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 1: checked that? 617 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 3: Well? You know South Pust Cycle. You know South Forst 618 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 3: Cycle is platinum, man, you know right right now, South 619 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 3: Forst Cycle on eBay and different little platforms going for 620 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 3: three hundred dollars. 621 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: Man, Yeah, for sure, you. 622 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 3: Can't even you can't even get South Pust Cycle for 623 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 3: a hundred three hundred You know that That lets you know? 624 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 3: You know, But like I said, you know it's about 625 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 3: one point six man, you know, so it is. It 626 00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 3: is what it is. 627 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: That's a blessing, though, bro, because you got a lot 628 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 1: of people out there. I'm telling you, I wouldn't be 629 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: surprised if Doctor Trey was banging your music, dog, because 630 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 1: you have that type of impact people like it was 631 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 1: really on your ship. 632 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 3: Man, I ain't go That's why I just told you 633 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 3: that's why I start called me. You know what I'm saying. 634 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 3: That's why my intro is too short? Too short, aboyt. 635 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 3: Two months ago he was just talking about me and 636 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 3: told him to play psycho. You know, me and two 637 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 3: Short too show used to fly to Houston. I used 638 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 3: to go pick Short up from the airport, take him 639 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 3: to the after hours, do his shows with him, stand 640 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 3: behind him, make sure nobody's fucking with him. Me and 641 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 3: my homis stand behind him, let him do his show, 642 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 3: and then go to the after hours. You know so 643 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 3: you can ask Short. I got it on my intro. 644 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Short I said to himself, 645 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 3: he said that ship on Eggen Radio on rock the 646 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 3: bells shout out to LLL. You know so you can't. 647 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 3: You can't deny the fact. That's that's what's wrong with niggas. 648 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 3: Niggas want to deny the fact that you cannot deny facts. 649 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: All the time. They you know what, they would rewrite history. 650 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 1: They were twisted up the facts and everything else. Man. 651 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 1: But you know what, that's all right. That's what we 652 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 1: got platforms like this to get the word out and 653 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: let people know what's going on. Yes, sir, so where 654 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 1: do you have a website or anything. 655 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 3: Well, man, I just I just me, honestly. I send niggas. 656 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 3: I just send niggas straight to the to the platforms. 657 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Go go go stream that, 658 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 3: Go buy, go stream it. You know what I'm saying. 659 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 3: That's all I want. That's all I want you to do. 660 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 3: You can just go see for yourself. You know, I'm 661 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 3: about to drop the Greatest Horrors Volume two, you know album, 662 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 3: probably in a month. But I but I have the 663 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 3: greatest album, Greatest Horrors Volume one that's out right now. 664 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 3: I have the Guard of Horror Cord that's out right now. 665 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 3: I have the Creator of Horror Cord that's out right now. 666 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 3: I have Steel Psycho too, that's out right now. I 667 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 3: have h Town Legend that out right now. These are 668 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 3: all record albums, man, and they under novel. So you 669 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 3: gotta do just go to YouTube, not YouTube, but iTunes, 670 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 3: Go to Spotify, g A E X S P A 671 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 3: N I P. You know what I'm talking about, and 672 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 3: you will see. 673 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 1: And you heard it right there. You heard it right 674 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 1: there with Nick Man. I appreciate you. Man, coming on, man, 675 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: I know you all a few hours ahead of us, man, 676 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 1: and we did this kind of short notice, man, But 677 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 1: I really appreciate it, man, because you are definitely one 678 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,760 Speaker 1: of my favorite artists. Donny shot out to me, Donny Houston. 679 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 1: I told Donny Houston, me and him talk a lot, 680 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 1: and I said, Man, tel games to Nip Man. I 681 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: gotta holler at him. 682 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 3: Man. I need to holler at him already, man, And 683 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 3: that's a that's a blessing. Man. Shout out to I 684 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,320 Speaker 3: call him DH Man. I call I call you know 685 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 3: when I go up to dh I. You know, I 686 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 3: call it dh Vill. When I do my interviews with him. 687 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:55,399 Speaker 3: I'm stilling in dh Vill. 688 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 1: Man. 689 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,840 Speaker 3: Shout out to Donny Houston. Man, we love down in Houston, 690 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 3: Big Steel. We'll be back, you know what I'm saying. 691 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 1: And oh for sure, you'll definitely be back. 692 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 3: Man. 693 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 1: We definitely go have you on against the Chronicles, dog. 694 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 1: I want to get you on that. Yeah, we have 695 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 1: against the Chronicles. 696 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 3: Dog. 697 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,879 Speaker 1: We got a lot of we got a real big 698 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: reach over there, especially on the audio. Man, So I 699 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 1: want to get you on there. I want to do 700 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 1: this with you all little one on one so I 701 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 1: can get my little personal fan boy ship off the 702 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 1: way for sure, and then I want you to know 703 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 1: me and eight is actually gonna come down to Houston. 704 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 1: I think we'd be down there in the January. So 705 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 1: I definitely want to do it the right way. When 706 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: we do that, that one that's that's gotta be the 707 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:31,840 Speaker 1: live sit. 708 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 3: Down, you know what I mean, sir, shout out to 709 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 3: nc A man, I've been a fan of eight Man 710 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 3: for some other fucking loan. Man, the hood will take 711 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 3: you under man, Come on, man. 712 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 1: Is a fan of yours as he is a big 713 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 1: fan of eight Man. 714 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 3: You know, EF eight is a is a complete dimension man. 715 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,320 Speaker 3: You know. So like I said, Man, I'm on it. 716 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 3: You know I'm talking about and that's just gotta gone 717 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 3: and just you just gotta give it up, man, you 718 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. Whther you you know like this 719 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:04,760 Speaker 3: rap that rapper Man, just real niggas we did in Facts. 720 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 3: Go look that ship up. Miam came out late ninety one. 721 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:14,280 Speaker 3: Southwust Cycle was the only horrorcord full length album out 722 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 3: in America and overseas worldwide. Board I hit the beer 723 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 3: board with no promotion, no radio play, just the strength 724 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 3: of hard ass rhymes. You know what I'm saying, it 725 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 3: ain't nothing changed. You know what I'm talking about. Steal 726 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 3: the same like I stayed. Go look on Spotify iTunes. 727 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:37,839 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Wherever you want to go, 728 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 3: g A n x STA, n IRP, Creator, Horror coord. 729 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 1: Now, gonna make sure I got that in the description, brother, 730 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 1: Bill linked to all your albums in the description. So 731 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 1: if you don't give me about five minutes, I'm gonna 732 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,439 Speaker 1: make sure all less populated down there. Man. I really 733 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 1: appreciate you, brother, I really appreciate you. Coming on, man, 734 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:02,319 Speaker 1: I appreciate y'all. Make sure what's your Instagram? Man? 735 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 3: Well, my Instagram is just look up Rowdy Rowdy Williams. 736 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,800 Speaker 3: That's my real name r R O W d Y 737 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 3: Gangster Nip Williams. 738 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,360 Speaker 1: When I found out that was your government name, bro, 739 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 1: I said, man, that's something else. The type of music. 740 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 1: Just man's name, and this government name is rowdy because 741 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 1: you are rowdy. 742 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 3: Now, you know my mama and my mama gakes me 743 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 3: the right name. Man. You know, so it's Rowdy gangst 744 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,840 Speaker 3: Nip Williams, you know. And it's Rowdy Williams on Facebook, 745 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:36,320 Speaker 3: you know, so at psycho Nip on Twitter you know. 746 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,799 Speaker 3: And then my YouTube is the real gangs the Nip. 747 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,919 Speaker 3: That's where all the videos at the real gangster Nip. 748 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,279 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I just I was just 749 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 3: on down in Houston. He did the top ten, I 750 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 3: did my I did my new song called fingers Sharpener. 751 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 3: Now who you know gonna make a song called fingers 752 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:52,799 Speaker 3: sharpen though? 753 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 1: You know that. 754 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, that fingers sharpening. See, I 755 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,319 Speaker 3: used to be a carping to so let me turn 756 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 3: their fingers softener. So let me turn it again. I 757 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,320 Speaker 3: remember this in school, so let me learn it again. 758 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:15,760 Speaker 3: You know, trust me, man, man, listen that fingers softener. 759 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 3: So motherfluck heart, you know, talking about I thigga say, 760 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,799 Speaker 3: used to be a used to be a teacher's hand 761 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,359 Speaker 3: turned into a creature's hand, kind of looking like it's 762 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,400 Speaker 3: Freddy's hand. Fred and Barnie rubber Wilmer told me that 763 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:34,839 Speaker 3: it's Bitty's hand. You're gonna talking about? Well, they shit wicked, man, 764 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,759 Speaker 3: you know, just gotta know, man. Plus it got them 765 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 3: two short, funked out ass beats. That's what makes that's 766 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 3: what makes the connection, the beats with the rhymes. You know, 767 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,360 Speaker 3: you gotta have both of them. You know, if you 768 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,880 Speaker 3: don't have both of them plus the visual the visualization 769 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,760 Speaker 3: of what you're talking about, see horror. Let me explain 770 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 3: this to these cats, man, you catch horror Core is 771 00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 3: more than just a physical style. It's a mental stuff 772 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,840 Speaker 3: and then also has a spiritual aspect. It's where you 773 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,960 Speaker 3: take it. The problem with you niggas, y'all keep that 774 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 3: shit just on the lower base value, which is the 775 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 3: physical style. Nigga, I'm the god. You know what I'm saying. 776 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:17,280 Speaker 3: I got the physical, the mental, and the spiritual style 777 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:18,839 Speaker 3: of horror court. 778 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 1: You know what. You just touched on something. And this 779 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 1: is what I want to say, because black folks, you 780 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,719 Speaker 1: know how we are religion. I had some folks when 781 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:31,400 Speaker 1: I would play your CD, why you listening to that 782 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 1: devil worship and stuff? And I would say it, not 783 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 1: one time did this man every say on their CD 784 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,920 Speaker 1: worship the devil? Never let one time he talks one 785 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,879 Speaker 1: big shit, but he never, not one time, said nothing 786 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:44,319 Speaker 1: about no Satanism on there. 787 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 3: That's another thing. I'm glad you mentioned that Lewis can't 788 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 3: be thinking horror Core is devil worshiping. It's not see 789 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 3: the ship was in me just from from birds. You know, 790 00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 3: I never never said I watched the devil. I'm in 791 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 3: the nation. Put this motherfucker ring, you know what I'm saying. 792 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,799 Speaker 3: You see that star in Christen, you know what I'm saying, 793 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,319 Speaker 3: So that horrorcore shit is in me. You know I'm 794 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 3: talking about. So that's just the physical plane, that's just 795 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 3: my defense mechanism. You heard, you know, So all nigga's 796 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,919 Speaker 3: out there, start worshiping Satan, you know what I'm saying, 797 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,800 Speaker 3: because I didn't create horrcor for you, the worship Satan. 798 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 3: I never said that shit. And my song always killed 799 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:29,640 Speaker 3: the devil, not worship. The fuck you're doing worship, you 800 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, The motherfucker devil the fuck. Your 801 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 3: horrorcor is a visual style with immense, high powered imagery. 802 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,920 Speaker 3: Horrorcor is a is a style where you don't need 803 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 3: a scream. Your lyrics is the picture. You don't need 804 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 3: a movie scream. If you're doing horrorcor right and your 805 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 3: shit is vivid enough, you'll never need a scream because 806 00:40:55,120 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 3: your lyrics is the movie. You know what I'm talking about. Life, 807 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 3: Life is a movie. We just all playing part you're. 808 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 1: For real, for real, for real, for real man. Before 809 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 1: we get up out of here, man, I want to 810 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,879 Speaker 1: give another shout out to Donnie Houston. Y'all make sure 811 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,800 Speaker 1: y'all go check your show out. Donnie is really the 812 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 1: he really puts on for the city of Houston, and 813 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,360 Speaker 1: I love that brother for that anytime, and I'm a 814 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,239 Speaker 1: big fan of his channel, you know, as he is 815 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,799 Speaker 1: for what we do. DONNYE. Houston, y'all make sure y'all 816 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,000 Speaker 1: go check him out, man, because anything that's going on 817 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 1: in Age down he pretty much don't have everything. Everybody 818 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 1: from Houston on that show, right, He's had everyone from 819 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,839 Speaker 1: Houston on that show, and I love that about that brother. Man. 820 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,759 Speaker 3: Shout out down Houston every name, man. Shout out to 821 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 3: the SPC, you know what I'm saying. Shout out to 822 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,799 Speaker 3: bumb Man. Shout out to the trail Burgers. Man, y'all 823 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,080 Speaker 3: need to check out that bum Bee trill Burger man 824 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 3: cold down. 825 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 1: There doing this thing. Man. I'm so proud of him. Man, 826 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:54,759 Speaker 1: that's awesome. Man. 827 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:56,800 Speaker 3: Bond, listen, let me tell you something about Bond before 828 00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,799 Speaker 3: I go. Every time Bond do an interviewer and they 829 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,680 Speaker 3: at your horror Court. He always telling them, Man Nip 830 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:06,360 Speaker 3: been doing that shit way before. You know what I'm saying, 831 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 3: Cat's came out, Cats came out. I've been doing Horror 832 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,040 Speaker 3: Court eighty three. You know what I'm saying. Then, I'm 833 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 3: fifty four years old. Look still you know that nation 834 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,799 Speaker 3: got a brother, Still looking good, still vibing, still hard core, 835 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 3: still higher level. You know what I'm saying, consciousness, how 836 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 3: you level thinking, and definitely how you level. You know 837 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Horror coord So it's so much more, 838 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,399 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying coming up, So just keep 839 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 3: you know, just just stay tuned, you know what I'm saying. 840 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 3: Like I said, go to the platforms g A, n 841 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:40,840 Speaker 3: X S, t A. 842 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,719 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make sure they get there, Bro, I'm gonna 843 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:48,239 Speaker 1: make sure they got it right too. So there we go, Man, Gangs, 844 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,520 Speaker 1: Nip Man, y'all make sure y'all go stream this man's music, 845 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,759 Speaker 1: go follow him on Instagram because he's truly one of 846 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,399 Speaker 1: our legends. Let's start giving our legends to flowers while 847 00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 1: they're still here. 848 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,759 Speaker 3: Yeah. Sure. Before I go, I just want to shout 849 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,120 Speaker 3: out to the home and eat Sam. Shout out to 850 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,560 Speaker 3: the Homelye Brother Lynx. Shout out to Take nine. You 851 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:11,719 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. Shout out to Eminem you know, 852 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 3: anybody that's doing hard. Shout out to the Juggalos. Shout 853 00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,719 Speaker 3: out to my homeboy Mastermind and Detroit. Shout out to 854 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:23,440 Speaker 3: Russ Cole. Shout out to the Hell's Rage in Cincinnati. 855 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:24,960 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Shout out to the homie 856 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,760 Speaker 3: really really, you know what I'm saying, the homie, Jordan 857 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:28,319 Speaker 3: King and. 858 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,759 Speaker 1: The SPC for sure. So y'all hear that out there. 859 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:32,040 Speaker 3: Now. 860 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:37,279 Speaker 1: I messed with y'all, tick all y'all out there, man, tick, 861 00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:41,000 Speaker 1: and with my homeboys insane clown policy. Man, we need 862 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,840 Speaker 1: ye lows, you know, we need it at the next Gatherer. 863 00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 1: Have they have you done together of the Juggalos yet? 864 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:48,960 Speaker 3: Uh? 865 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:49,239 Speaker 1: Man? 866 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,600 Speaker 3: They they did contact me one year. I think I 867 00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,239 Speaker 3: was I think I was doing some shows so I 868 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,759 Speaker 3: couldn't do that particular one, so they did reach out 869 00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:57,040 Speaker 3: to me. 870 00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 1: You know, man, I'm gonna try to set that up 871 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,319 Speaker 1: for you need to go do that number all there 872 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:02,239 Speaker 1: taking them too. Dog. 873 00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:03,080 Speaker 3: You need to be out. 874 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:07,600 Speaker 1: You know people want to see you dog already. But 875 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:11,600 Speaker 1: we go talk offline about that business man. We appreciate y'all. Man, 876 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,799 Speaker 1: this is something we gonna start doing every Sunday. Make 877 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,320 Speaker 1: sure y'all check this week's episode The Gainst the Chronicles 878 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,560 Speaker 1: off and all that. And from that note we out 879 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:24,000 Speaker 1: of here. Salute well. That concludes another episode of The 880 00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,880 Speaker 1: Gainst the Chronicles podcast. Be sure to download the iHeart 881 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,640 Speaker 1: app and subscribe to The Gangst the Chronicles podcast For 882 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:31,719 Speaker 1: Apple users, find a purple mica on the front of 883 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,360 Speaker 1: your screen, subscribe to the show, leave a comment and rating. 884 00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:38,200 Speaker 1: Executive producers for The Gangst Chronicles podcasts Norman Steell, Aaron 885 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 1: m c a Tyler. Our visual media director is Brian Wyatt, 886 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,440 Speaker 1: and audio editors tell It Hayes. The Gangster Chronicles is 887 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:48,040 Speaker 1: a production of iHeartMedia Network and The Black Effect Podcast Network. 888 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,279 Speaker 1: For more podcasts from iHeart Radio, visit the iHeart Radio 889 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 1: app Apple Podcasts wherever you're listening to your podcasts