Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong is Joe Getty.
Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Jetty and he arm Strong and Getty.
Speaker 2: I don't feel like people are living what they're telling
Speaker 2: Polsters do tell so like seventy five percent of people
Speaker 2: say they're the economic conditions in this country are poor.
Speaker 2: Yet Mother's Day weekend we spent more money than we've
Speaker 2: ever spent for Mother's Day weekend. Now you pointed out
Speaker 2: rightly that well, with inflation, you know, it could have
Speaker 2: been equal to last year, and it would be more.
Speaker 2: But if three quarters of people think the economic push
Speaker 2: is a situation in America is poor and their personal
Speaker 2: finances are terrible, wouldn't you think he'd go down significantly?
Speaker 2: Like significantly. Also, I'm hearing that Memorial Day weekend which
Speaker 2: is coming up, all the experts are predicting the busiest
Speaker 2: travel weekend in US history.
Speaker 1: He's bit at the gas prices, really, I know, and
Speaker 1: and airfares are crazy.
Speaker 2: High, right, I know. None of this fits together, which
Speaker 2: is the point I'm making. And then the Wall Street
Speaker 2: Journal had a big piece because we set records on
Speaker 2: all three indexes yesterday or day before with the war
Speaker 2: going on and people with these attitudes and inflation numbers,
Speaker 2: I mean, what what is going on? Yeah? Which is it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: How are you at war?
Speaker 2: With the straight closed and it looking like, boy, it's
Speaker 2: going to be dicey, And how we get out of this?
Speaker 2: I don't see how it could be anything other than
Speaker 2: this attack them again and we're setting stock market records. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 2: if uncertainty is the big you know, driver of people holding.
Speaker 1: Back, Yeah, it's long, complicated answer, involving several factors, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I think part of it, the most interesting part of
Speaker 1: it to me is that.
Speaker 2: Wall Street Journal didn't have an answer. By the way,
Speaker 2: they didn't really have an answer.
Speaker 1: No, how could they. More and more of everybody's perception
Speaker 1: of the world is non personal. Yeah, it's electronic gets
Speaker 1: through the internet, through the web, through the media, as
Speaker 1: opposed to No, I'm doing fine. My neighbors seem to
Speaker 1: be doing fine. I'm checking in with my family. Yep,
Speaker 1: they're doing pretty well too. My uncle Johnny just lost
Speaker 1: his job, but he's smart, he'll get a new one.
Speaker 1: I mean, everybody's like, oh hear out, I almost ducked
Speaker 1: in s bomb.
Speaker 2: That would have been funny.
Speaker 1: I keep hearing how poopy it is out there. Yes,
Speaker 1: my perception is bad, bad, right, So it's a It's
Speaker 1: not entirely it, of course, because inflation hurts. It's terrible
Speaker 1: out there.
Speaker 2: Me and the family, we're going to go somewhere for
Speaker 2: a Memorial Day weekend and stay in a hotel and
Speaker 2: eat out at restaurants and things that we've always done.
Speaker 2: But I understand it's really bad for everybody else. Is
Speaker 2: that what's happening? That's part of it anyway, as all
Speaker 2: work up to this clip from Trump that they led
Speaker 2: with on MS and now today and talked about for
Speaker 2: like a half an hour because they just thought it
Speaker 2: was so insensitive of Trump to say this.
Speaker 1: And I would agree that if.
Speaker 2: You were really worried about being a good popular politician,
Speaker 2: you probably wouldn't have phrased it this way. But Trump
Speaker 2: was asked about high prices in America right now, one.
Speaker 1: Extent our American financial tids makes it motivating you to
Speaker 1: make it deal, not even a little bit. The only
Speaker 1: thing that matters is when.
Speaker 3: I'm talking about Iran, they can't have a due clear weapon.
Speaker 3: I don't think about American financial situation. I don't think
Speaker 3: about anybody. I think about one thing. We cannot let
Speaker 3: Iran have a nuclear weapon.
Speaker 2: That's all I'll do my ms now impersonation. Well, there
Speaker 2: you heard it. Donald Trump doesn't care about your financial situation.
Speaker 2: Here's a panel of seven people who agree with me
Speaker 2: shaking their heads.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 1: It's amazing, isn't it. Jim the President of the United States,
Speaker 1: when gases name the number, doesn't care about your financial situation?
Speaker 1: How can you be so callous?
Speaker 2: Well, I wouldn't have phrased it that way as a politician,
Speaker 2: because you know how it's gonna get used. But it
Speaker 2: was for the negotiating with Iran. It's trying to make
Speaker 2: it clear to them that I'm under no pressure. You
Speaker 2: are not pressuring me. I am not feeling the pressure
Speaker 2: of this. Dude's right, That's that's what he was saying.
Speaker 2: It's bad messaging. He handed them a club and they
Speaker 2: beat him with it. He could have done a lot
Speaker 2: better than that. But yeah, that's that's clearly what's going on.
Speaker 2: It's such a terrible way to say it, though he
Speaker 2: shouldn't have That is the question, though, who's under more
Speaker 2: financial stress? The leaders of Iran can't say the country
Speaker 2: of Iran because they don't give a crap if the
Speaker 2: regular people don't have food or water, electricity or whatever else.
Speaker 1: Again, if I'm going to machine gun you, I certainly
Speaker 1: don't care whether bread is too expensive for you, right,
Speaker 1: no kidding.
Speaker 2: But who's under more financial pressure the leaders ship of
Speaker 2: Iran or you know, the US Congress. And I don't
Speaker 2: know the answer to that. Nobody does yet. But we
Speaker 2: mentioned earlier this New York Times piece quoting all kinds
Speaker 2: of US intelligence officials anonymously. Nobody's on the record. They're
Speaker 2: saying that Iran's stockpile of missiles and missile launchers and
Speaker 2: all that sort of stuff is still very robust.
Speaker 1: Yeah, most of it's intact, which makes you think they're
Speaker 1: not on the verge of fallen.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I take it with a grain of salt because
Speaker 1: it's the New York Times. But it seems really well researched.
Speaker 2: And as I said earlier, and it's still true three
Speaker 2: hours later, I haven't seen anybody push back on it
Speaker 2: real hard. You'd have thought if it was easily debunked.
Speaker 1: Yeah, somebody from the administration would to come out by
Speaker 1: down and said, that is absolutely not true. I haven't
Speaker 1: heard that yet. Well, they saw the uh Ar swooping
Speaker 1: coming apparently, or when it started, they took their their
Speaker 1: missile systems to ground in a big hurry and hit them,
Speaker 1: fortified them, whatever part some of their planes in Pakistan. Thanks,
Speaker 1: I can stand honest, broker of the peace talks. That's
Speaker 1: so called hilariously non existent peace talks. Yeah, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's far from over. Is it a quagmire?
Speaker 2: G geek? Oh boy, oh boy.
Speaker 1: I will not use the key word stop it a
Speaker 1: what a funny name for a cartoon character? Yes, a
Speaker 1: quag perv yes, yes, oh boy. Meanwhile, Donald Jay's in
Speaker 1: China having a conference with Old Shijin Ping trying to
Speaker 1: work out trade issues and that sort of thing.
Speaker 2: It is notable. Hold on, let me ask Claude stand by,
Speaker 2: got to ask Claude a question. How old is the
Speaker 2: dictator of China?
Speaker 1: Okay, go on, I'll have the Xijian Ping is the
Speaker 1: freely elected president of China.
Speaker 2: Ha Oh, that's funny, Claude said, China doesn't have a
Speaker 2: dictator in the formal sense. You got they do in
Speaker 2: the formal sense, you jack ass. He's seventy two. He
Speaker 2: looks older than that. Trump's gonna be eighty next month. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh, anyway, So there they are, and it is notable
Speaker 1: that our rhetoric towards China has softened a great deal.
Speaker 1: Donald Jay was I loved him being a China Hawk
Speaker 1: in the first term. He woke up a lot of
Speaker 1: America to the fact that they're not a friend. They're
Speaker 1: an adversary. Yeah, we do some trade with them, but
Speaker 1: they're predatory, they steal everything, they're bent on overthrowing as
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. Much much more conciliatory these days.
Speaker 2: Interesting, they claimed they elected Stalin in elections and Kim
Speaker 2: Jong own and don't waste my time.
Speaker 1: Who do you call a dictator?
Speaker 2: Claude? They all pretend they were sata, was it? They
Speaker 2: all pretend they're elected. So would he would Claude say
Speaker 2: that about everybody? He wasn't a dictator in the traditional sense.
Speaker 1: Policy is whatever he what's the word, what's the word dictate?
Speaker 2: And if you don't agree him, he has you killed, right,
Speaker 2: had his dictate?
Speaker 1: He's not a dictator in the formal sense, good lord.
Speaker 1: So increasingly in China they are referring to the United
Speaker 1: States in both official and quasie official publications and scholarly papers,
Speaker 1: and the rest as an empire in decline. They say
Speaker 1: that under Trump it's validated. She's worldview centered on the
Speaker 1: rise of the East in the decline of the West.
Speaker 1: And they used to be kind of envious and admiring
Speaker 1: of our system and how well it worked, even as
Speaker 1: they were trying to get communism up and running. But
Speaker 1: in January, and nationalistic think tank affiliated with the Big
Speaker 1: University published a triumphant report about Trump's first year back
Speaker 1: in office. The report argued that his tariff's attacks on allies,
Speaker 1: anti immigration policies, assaults on the American political establishment had
Speaker 1: inadvertently strengthened China while weakening the US. It's title, Thank Trump,
Speaker 1: Trump an accelerator of American political decay, with the US
Speaker 1: sliding toward polarization, ding institutional dysfunctions, did even Latin American
Speaker 1: style in stability.
Speaker 2: Well, and you think that's all Trump's fault, though, I
Speaker 2: think that's a god that's truth mixed in with Trump
Speaker 2: derangement syndrome. Acting like these the soul perpetrator of our
Speaker 2: polarization in politics, Give me a break.
Speaker 1: All right, I got to hit you with the less
Speaker 1: sentence of this, Michael, get the scary sound ready to
Speaker 1: scary music. At this turning point in history, the authors wrote,
Speaker 1: what we hear is the heavy and haunting toll of
Speaker 1: an empire's evening. I don't know anything. It must be
Speaker 1: a Chinese thing, but it's heavy and haunting. That's the point.
Speaker 2: Relative to the rest of the world, Are we in
Speaker 2: decline or no?
Speaker 1: Clearly it's a rough patch. Clearly we are, don't you
Speaker 1: think in decline and relatively the rest of the world
Speaker 1: world compared to the past fifty years. Oh, how are
Speaker 1: we not in decline?
Speaker 2: Well, but.
Speaker 1: By that definition, who's not in decline?
Speaker 2: I'm just thinking our ability to influence things all around
Speaker 2: the world.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, in terms of economic independence, Yeah, we're
Speaker 1: more you know, on the hook for you know, cooperating
Speaker 1: with people we don't want to cooperate with, including on
Speaker 1: critical industries sometimes, which.
Speaker 2: Is has been a mistake.
Speaker 1: Obviously, Ye'd stand tough forever. It's a rough patch, yeah,
Speaker 1: no doubt, But that's history. I am completely convinced that
Speaker 1: the unbelievably great post Cold War twenty years of peace
Speaker 1: and prosperity interrupted maybe by nine to eleven was just
Speaker 1: so bad.
Speaker 2: For the US in a lot of ways.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because we have a way of human beings of
Speaker 1: assuming that what is will always be, even if, like
Speaker 1: for the rest of history it hasn't been. We think,
Speaker 1: all right, whoa, we got it licked. It's like when
Speaker 1: Alan green Span, I'm going deep into the weeds now.
Speaker 1: But when Alan Greenspan the Chairman of the fedback in
Speaker 1: the day and else today, we figured out inflation, figured
Speaker 1: out managing the economy. No more recessions, no more inflation.
Speaker 1: Everybody that's over. That was crazy, wasn't it, He said
Speaker 1: with a perfectly straight face.
Speaker 2: I always related to sports dynasties at some point because
Speaker 2: they all decline at some point, and at some point
Speaker 2: you kind of come to believe that we're gonna win
Speaker 2: just because our uniforms we have. We're wearing the Patriots
Speaker 2: uniforms or the Lakers uniforms or the Bulls uniforms or
Speaker 2: whoever with.
Speaker 1: The dynasty was.
Speaker 2: But if the players ain't the same, or they're old
Speaker 2: and slower or whatever, it doesn't matter. Yeah, the uniform
Speaker 2: didn't win it. So the US is in a rebuilding year.
Speaker 1: That's the way I see it. They'll be fine. Oh,
Speaker 1: I think it will be fine. I think you know,
Speaker 1: AI's gonna wipe out the whole world. But yeah, well
Speaker 1: we'll be as fine as anybody else as the robot
Speaker 1: wolves come for our throats literally Japanese. I've always said
Speaker 1: Chinese Japanese robot wolves are selling like hotcakes in Japan.
Speaker 1: What kind of a I indeed, what kind of F
Speaker 1: and A? I S what the top of a? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's what the f type of AI s E? What
Speaker 1: ap of a? That's what we're asking. It's on everyone's lips. Okay,
Speaker 1: more on the way.
Speaker 4: Armstrong, because quite honestly, this is there's not a lot
Speaker 4: of upside to the so much. It's not like there's
Speaker 4: going to be a transform transformational breakthrough in US Chinese
Speaker 4: relations that can't be downside, but there are potential downs
Speaker 4: For me, it's more success is more the avoidance of downsides.
Speaker 4: Then it's gonna be Then it's gonna be big upside.
Speaker 2: I think, here you go, that's probably a better way
Speaker 2: to look at the whole summit between Trump and the dictator.
Speaker 1: She uh just trying to avoid downside.
Speaker 2: So I got an argument with Claude, and I decided
Speaker 2: to go back to it. I asked, I was wondering
Speaker 2: how old president she is president? Using my finger quotes,
Speaker 2: how old is the dictator of China? Claude responded, China
Speaker 2: doesn't have a dictator in the formal sense, but he
Speaker 2: is seventy two years old. So I followed up during
Speaker 2: the commercials was Sadam Musein a dictator?
Speaker 1: Claude said yes.
Speaker 2: Sadam Usein ruled Iraq from seventy nine to two thousand
Speaker 2: and three, widely classified as dictator blah blah blah, goes
Speaker 2: through all the different sort of stuff, elections whatnot. I said, well,
Speaker 2: they pretend to have fair elections, just like they do
Speaker 2: in China, do they not? And they called both of
Speaker 2: them president. You're right that both held managed elections and
Speaker 2: use the title president. The parallel is real on those points.
Speaker 2: Sadam's election famously returned ninety nine percent percent, the different
Speaker 2: being the polit burea blah blah blah. And then it
Speaker 2: goes on to say China is usually classified as a
Speaker 2: one part of authoritarian state where the Communist Party rules.
Speaker 2: That was until she changed the rules in twenty twelve,
Speaker 2: she changed the rules on how the party works and
Speaker 2: gets to stay president.
Speaker 1: What would you call that? And anybody who shows the
Speaker 1: slightest doubts of his rule is purged and jailed. Your
Speaker 1: skepticism in what's the word dictates all policy? Right, It's just.
Speaker 2: Interesting you can get argument in arguments with these chatbots. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they must be plowing through. Your skepticism about the elections
Speaker 2: and president titles is well founded. Thank you, Thank you too, kind.
Speaker 2: I think I won that argument.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, don't don't be all conciliatory. You were wrong
Speaker 1: and I was right.
Speaker 2: You know. That reminds me.
Speaker 1: It's one of the reasons I didn't get a grad
Speaker 1: degree is, you know, in political science and law to
Speaker 1: to some extent, But your professors are arguing about doctrines
Speaker 1: and definitions and like charts. Well, the real world is
Speaker 1: going on, right, No, that it's that I don't have
Speaker 1: any patience for that crap. Let's get out and let's
Speaker 1: go out and get our knuckles dirty and get our
Speaker 1: fingerhaels dirty.
Speaker 2: Whatever.
Speaker 1: That expression is better than being attacked by a robot dog.
Speaker 1: By god, your robot wolf even worse. Japanese a robot
Speaker 1: wolves they're attributing the rise in demand for the wolf
Speaker 1: shaped robot known as the Monster Wolf, which that doesn't
Speaker 1: sound good. No, that's that's a good name though for
Speaker 1: like a metal band, kind of old school, though you'd
Speaker 1: probably play like a lot of steppen Wolf covers in
Speaker 1: deep purple. I wear black denim, I'll tell you that. Oh,
Speaker 1: of course you do. But it's developed by this Japanese
Speaker 1: machine parts manufacturer, and they've seen a surge in sales
Speaker 1: amidst amid an increase in bear attacks and sightings in Japan,
Speaker 1: I mean attacks. If they had I'm sure, buying a
Speaker 1: robot wolf for the very rare possible of a bear
Speaker 1: attacking you, Well, they hired a giant turtle monster to
Speaker 1: fight the giant lizard monster and a Gamera versus Godzilla.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, what time guy, they robot dog get hill?
Speaker 1: Fuck? That's what they're asking in Japan as well. What
Speaker 1: y'all got that robot dog in here for?
Speaker 2: Can we hear that one more time? Like, what what
Speaker 2: time guy?
Speaker 1: They robot dog get hill? Fuck?
Speaker 2: She's she's not really uh put off by the fact
Speaker 2: that she I assume she's probably seen the first robot
Speaker 2: dog of her life and she acts like the.
Speaker 1: Unique thing is that it's here. Well, she's calling for accountability, certainly,
Speaker 1: but interestingly enough, the monster Wolf robot is usually used
Speaker 1: to repel wild animals that can damage agricultural areas, such
Speaker 1: as boar, deers, bears. But they've tripled the orders and
Speaker 1: you look at this thing. It looks almost like a
Speaker 1: cartoon wolf with flaming red eyes and big ears and
Speaker 1: stuff like that.
Speaker 2: But evidently it's pretty effective.
Speaker 1: The beasts see that at the edge of the field
Speaker 1: and they think, let's just try somebody else's field.
Speaker 2: As it patrols up and up and down.
Speaker 1: I need one of those. Oh yeah, go everywhere with me.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, nobody'd mess with you.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 2: Mean my robot does he come across somebody with a
Speaker 2: bigger robot? Wolf Dog talk to Monster Wolf.
Speaker 1: Update on the situation in Marika's university is coming up
Speaker 1: in a moment's stay.
Speaker 5: With us Armstrong and Getty, and it's just in the
Speaker 5: Department of Justice is investigating that suspicious trading around the
Speaker 5: oil market when Trump would make his announcements, So the
Speaker 5: Trump Justice Department is looking into what the hell's going
Speaker 5: on there.
Speaker 2: I would think they could nail that down pretty easy.
Speaker 2: They can figure out who's making those trades, I think.
Speaker 2: So I don't think can convict anybody, but they could
Speaker 2: certainly make an uncomfortable media story.
Speaker 1: For a lot of people. In the words of Bob Dylan,
Speaker 1: I can't help it if I'm lucky. So this is
Speaker 1: not a campus madness update. It is just kind of
Speaker 1: a digestive stories about education and more on college than
Speaker 1: through twelve. But Jason Riley, brilliant, brilliant, brilliant editorialist with
Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal, writing about what a great issue school
Speaker 1: choice is for Republicans, and he goes into the Trump
Speaker 1: tax credit thing to provide credits if you donate the
Speaker 1: money to nonprofit organizations, the grant scholarships. If you know
Speaker 1: about how this works, you know. If you don't, it
Speaker 1: take too long to explain. But it doesn't spend any
Speaker 1: state money, and it's an opt in program though, and
Speaker 1: all the Republican governors have said, yeah, this sounds like
Speaker 1: a wonderful idea, and most Democratic governors are holding off
Speaker 1: out of deference to the teachers' unions who are saying, no,
Speaker 1: don't do this, even though it doesn't take any money.
Speaker 1: Away from any state money, away from schools, from government schools.
Speaker 1: But Kathy Hochl in New York has joined Jared Paulis
Speaker 1: Paulus Poulis in Colorado. No Conservatives they to opt into
Speaker 1: the program because it's just it's irresistible. And he's talking
Speaker 1: about the polling, and yeah, school choice pulls so well.
Speaker 1: One of the reasons I get so frustrated with Trump
Speaker 1: and his sloppy, sloppy messaging is that it's a one
Speaker 1: in ten to hold on to the House after a
Speaker 1: president of one party gets selected.
Speaker 2: Would you say it roughly one in ten chance or
Speaker 2: done that very often? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And I feel like this is the one in ten,
Speaker 1: But I don't know. They keep stepping on their own tie,
Speaker 1: if you will. How about this one Princeton which is
Speaker 1: allegedly the number one university in the United States alone.
Speaker 1: Who gives a crap, it's changing It's one hundred and
Speaker 1: thirty three year old honor code over AI cheating fears.
Speaker 1: The faculty is voted to require proctering in all in
Speaker 1: person exams starting this summer, reversing a policy set in
Speaker 1: place in eighteen ninety three. What's proctering students pledge I
Speaker 1: will not cheat. If I do heave my ass out
Speaker 1: of the university. It's a code of honor. But on
Speaker 1: Monday the faculty voted, yeah, nobody's got an the honor.
Speaker 1: Everybody's cheating anymore. So proctering is essentially supervisors guards.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm dealing with this with my kids. It's
Speaker 2: where using AI, if you're writing a paper or something
Speaker 2: like that, where it crosses into cheating is not as
Speaker 2: easy as you think, right, And you know, you start
Speaker 2: asking it some questions and it's it's got a couple
Speaker 2: of sentences there about the topic.
Speaker 1: You just ask about it.
Speaker 2: And so I'm supposed to not use that fantastic sentence
Speaker 2: right there with that information, Okay, I won't. All I
Speaker 2: switched those two words.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if I changed two words, am I still cheating
Speaker 1: or you? And what if I'm in a class that
Speaker 1: I suck at. I've tried and I've tried. It's like
Speaker 1: I remember trigonometry and I tried calculus for like six
Speaker 1: weeks in college. I just my brain doesn't work that way,
Speaker 1: but I need it to pass so I can just
Speaker 1: fulfill that requirement and get back to studying that which
Speaker 1: I'm passionate about right. I can easily see somebody rationalizing
Speaker 1: that they might be wrong, because Jack, when you cheat,
Speaker 1: you know who you're cheating.
Speaker 2: Would you like me to tell you?
Speaker 1: I'm ready to tell you you're cheating yourself?
Speaker 2: And then what about the idea that you know, the
Speaker 2: people that succeed are going to be the people that
Speaker 2: know how to use AI? May maybe being able to
Speaker 2: ask a couple of AI chatbots questions, phrase different ways
Speaker 2: and pick out which ones are the best versions of
Speaker 2: what they gave you to craft the paper?
Speaker 1: Is the skill you need for the future? That's research. Yeah.
Speaker 1: In a survey of over five hundred seniors, thirty percent
Speaker 1: reported that they personally had cheated on an assignment or exam.
Speaker 1: You know the number is going to be higher in that.
Speaker 1: I don't know about you. I'm skeptical about every survey
Speaker 1: I take where I'm asked to confess to sins, like
Speaker 1: how does this software exactly? That they can't tie it
Speaker 1: back to me.
Speaker 2: I am not a cheater, and like I never looked
Speaker 2: at anybody's paper in school or anything like that.
Speaker 1: I would never do that.
Speaker 2: Or sometimes answers to tests would be floating around and
Speaker 2: I never engaged in that. But I think I absolutely
Speaker 2: would have used AI to help me write papers, and
Speaker 2: I would have justified it in my own mind. This
Speaker 2: is not cheating right right.
Speaker 1: Interestingly enough, in that same poll, nearly half reported personal
Speaker 1: knowledge knowledge of an Honor Code violation, but less than
Speaker 1: one percent had ever made a report. All right, good news.
Speaker 1: I love this, love this, love this. I'm so excited
Speaker 1: about it. Do you remember we told you about this?
Speaker 1: When did this start? A couple of years ago the university?
Speaker 1: Ever have people cheat off of you?
Speaker 2: Yes? I had that all the time, and saw I
Speaker 2: hated it. I just let them. I just was like,
Speaker 2: you know what am I supposed to do?
Speaker 1: Lean over? My answers were, yeah, I probably should have
Speaker 1: done that. I didn't like it. I resented it. I
Speaker 1: didn't like it because I thought I'm going to get
Speaker 1: an trouble somehow. But yeah, I just thought, I've busted
Speaker 1: my ass. Why are you glombing off of my work?
Speaker 2: You know what? I didn't realize Jack, they were only
Speaker 2: cheating themselves.
Speaker 1: Anyway. So for me, it was always if she was
Speaker 1: cute or not, oh well, oh please. If a haughty
Speaker 1: had said, hey, do you mind if I take a
Speaker 1: look at that. Oh, please to hang on to it
Speaker 1: if you need to. Sure, Yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 2: That did happen to me one time in high school.
Speaker 2: The super dute cheerleader that every guy had a cruch on.
Speaker 2: He was like, oh, you're so sweet if you would
Speaker 2: love this. And I remember thinking, even as a very unwise,
Speaker 2: very naive whatever, I was sixteen year old, thinking, I
Speaker 2: have a feeling that as soon as this class is over,
Speaker 2: it's being nice to me.
Speaker 1: There you go, you are becoming a man jack the
Speaker 1: judgment of them in Okay, So we told you about
Speaker 1: this when it started. The University of North Carolina Chapel Hill,
Speaker 1: the big UNC with the blue and Michael Jordan and everything.
Speaker 2: Pretty damned woke in a purple state.
Speaker 1: Well, the board of trustees, supported by the state legislature,
Speaker 1: started the uncch School of Civic Life, Life and Leadership,
Speaker 1: an independent like college within the university that was all
Speaker 1: about well, all about traditional Western civ political science, Civics education,
Speaker 1: a regular education as opposed to an indoctrination. And it's
Speaker 1: been a smashing success. The kids are signing up for
Speaker 1: it in droves. It's expanding like crazy. They're developing a major,
Speaker 1: a master's program, and a PhD program on American political
Speaker 1: thought in constitutionalism, to supplement the growing work with undergrads.
Speaker 1: The number of students declaring a minor in that college
Speaker 1: increased ninety in the second semester this year.
Speaker 2: It is exploding.
Speaker 1: Here's an embittering note to remind you of the sort
Speaker 1: of fight we're in the faculty. Something like ninety percent
Speaker 1: of the faculty when this thing launched signed petitions opposing it.
Speaker 2: The whole thing K through graduate school is so messed up. Oh,
Speaker 2: I just don't disease my hope that we can break
Speaker 2: out of it is certainly going to be a slow
Speaker 2: process if we even can. Like, we got a clip,
Speaker 2: we haven't played it of some rich guy gave a
Speaker 2: commencement speech at a university of the day and did
Speaker 2: that thing happens every year where some rich guy does this,
Speaker 2: announces I'm.
Speaker 1: Paying all of your student debt.
Speaker 2: And everybody goes crazy. And I used to think, oh
Speaker 2: that's nice. Now I think crap another bailing out of the.
Speaker 1: Force the wedge of this. How stump this is right?
Speaker 1: All you did is extend how much longer this crap
Speaker 1: can last? A way overcharge for these useless degrees and
Speaker 1: you bailed it out.
Speaker 2: The only leverage to get value. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So the civics movement in higher education is growing across
Speaker 1: the country, not fast enough, but let's be positive, with
Speaker 1: more than forty five centers at forty one institutions in
Speaker 1: twenty five states according to the report by the Heterodox Academy,
Speaker 1: that are great their heroes. Civic centers are thriving at
Speaker 1: the University of Florida, University of Texas, at Austin, Arizona State,
Speaker 1: Ohio State, among others. Just absolutely fabulous. But it was
Speaker 1: just universally despised by the faculty at UNC when it
Speaker 1: got started. Anybody daring to break three free of the indoctrination.
Speaker 1: Final note, and we don't really have time for this,
Speaker 1: I'll give you the very brief version.
Speaker 2: Four years ago, Havid.
Speaker 1: Committed one hundred million dollars to study how to compensate
Speaker 1: and then compensate descendants of people enslaved reparations who had
Speaker 1: any relationship to Harvard University. Because if you're not familiar
Speaker 1: with this, in the north to the northeast, there were
Speaker 1: corporations and companies that profited from slavery as much as
Speaker 1: the actual slaveholders in the South, and quite a few
Speaker 1: of them were associated with Harvard University.
Speaker 2: But so the committee.
Speaker 1: Ultimately pay produced one hundred and thirty four page report
Speaker 1: confirming that people connected with Harvard had advanced so called
Speaker 1: race science, including eugenics, to justify the slave trade.
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: The report called on the school to take responsibility for
Speaker 1: its past blah blah blah. So they established what they
Speaker 1: called the Harvard and the Legacy of Slavery Initiative, which
Speaker 1: aimed to and I quote, remedy harms to descendants, to
Speaker 1: our community in the nation, and to campus life and learning.
Speaker 1: It committed an extraordinary one hundred million dollars to the initiative,
Speaker 1: had waste of time and money, and promoted a professor
Speaker 1: of public health policy for a special project to shepherd
Speaker 1: the effort. What followed, and I'm quoting the Free Press,
Speaker 1: was a cascade of institutional embarrassments, high profile resignations, the
Speaker 1: dismissal of an entire research team, a string of hr complaints,
Speaker 1: and a rebuke from Antigua's ambassador to the United States.
Speaker 1: And so far, at least it's signature effort to find
Speaker 1: to send in some people Harvard enslaved and didn't do
Speaker 1: something for them, presumably financially, has failed miserably. In fact,
Speaker 1: they've said essentially, you know, you can't really implement reparations.
Speaker 1: Doesn't work, it's too complicated.
Speaker 2: Couple hundred years later, yeah, for people that, whatever their situations,
Speaker 2: got nothing to do with that. And you got black
Speaker 2: kids coming from Nigeria wherever they come from, who get
Speaker 2: straight a's and and showing that the family culture of
Speaker 2: caring about education is what matters, not whether or not
Speaker 2: fifteen generations ago there were slaves in your family.
Speaker 1: And I thought, I retweeted this, gosh, dang it, where
Speaker 1: did it go? There was another organization that appointed this
Speaker 1: woman to be the head of the reparations committee. Turns
Speaker 1: out her family back in the slave trade days in
Speaker 1: Nigeria were giant slave traders and became very very wealthy
Speaker 1: trading human beings, and this chick's in charge of pursuing justice.
Speaker 1: It's absolutely hilarious. I hope they feel good about themselves.
Speaker 1: I guess that's the goal.
Speaker 2: That really is the goal. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay, that sort of stuff I find demoralizing. Well, although
Speaker 1: I think overall, you got the growth of the unc
Speaker 1: style civics thing. That's awesome, and Harvard saying, hey, that
Speaker 1: didn't work. Now, like the San Franciscos and Gavin Newsom's
Speaker 1: of the world, will never admit that this happened because
Speaker 1: they don't actually want reparations. They just want the money
Speaker 1: to flow through them so they can give it to
Speaker 1: their cronies. But it's encouraging that Harvard said, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was stupid.
Speaker 2: Sorry, we will lighten it up and finish strong next Armstrong.
Speaker 2: A group of.
Speaker 6: Middle school students in Mississippi kept their bus from crashing
Speaker 6: after the driver passed out behind the wheel. The town
Speaker 6: says the kids are heroes who acted quickly, while the
Speaker 6: bus driver says, the kids robbed me of the death.
Speaker 1: I have long begged for it. Oh, darkly hilarious. You
Speaker 1: all right, speaking of kids, it would be wrong for
Speaker 1: us to announce anything that's not ours to announce. But
Speaker 1: if anybody's wondering about our beloved Katie, everything's great and
Speaker 1: more more to come on that topic. We were discussing yesterday, Jack,
Speaker 1: you brought up how men's brains change when they become dads. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and one of our beloved listeners and women. Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: One of our beloved listeners went to the trouble of actually,
Speaker 1: you know, chat gpting it or something, and I found
Speaker 1: this interesting. Yes, indeed, men's brains and bodies undergo significant
Speaker 1: hormonal and structural changes often called dad brain, during their
Speaker 1: partner's pregnancy and after the baby is born. These changes
Speaker 1: facilitate bonding and caregiving, featuring decreased testosterone and increased feel
Speaker 1: good hormones like oxytocin, alongside structural brain remodeling similar to neuroplasticity.
Speaker 1: So the structure of your brain actually changes.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: For I don't know why they don't talk about this
Speaker 1: more often.
Speaker 2: It seems like it would be good news to people
Speaker 2: if they're you know, looking at people with kids and thinking, God,
Speaker 2: I don't know, could I do that?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Because your brain changes, yeah, and nature kicks in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: So there is a lowering of testosterone, which researchers believe
Speaker 1: pivots them the men from mating behavior to nurturing behavior.
Speaker 1: That's good. Well, with a newborn baby in the house,
Speaker 1: there ain't gonna be any mating behavior unless you stray,
Speaker 1: so that's just fine. Increased oxytocin and prolactin you the
Speaker 1: bonding hormone and proact and increase, aiding insensitivity to the
Speaker 1: baby's cries and promoting interaction. Stress hormone shifts changes in
Speaker 1: you'll never remember this, so I won't bother more. Hormones
Speaker 1: related distress are often observed helping men adapt to the
Speaker 1: demands of a newborn.
Speaker 2: Yeah so the whole Uh Like I noticed this whenever
Speaker 2: there's a crying kid. Remember that story I told about
Speaker 2: being at that restaurant that kid was screaming, making that
Speaker 2: amazing sound I wanted to I thought they ought to
Speaker 2: be in a circuits the slide whistle sound. But I
Speaker 2: feel like people who haven't raised babies are way more
Speaker 2: bothered by a kid crying, a kid crying on a
Speaker 2: plane whatever set them next to me. I don't care.
Speaker 2: Oh no, I don't care.
Speaker 1: But if you've been through that, it doesn't bother you, right,
Speaker 1: I just think it all as poor parents.
Speaker 2: I hope they're not self conscious, yeah, or I.
Speaker 1: Hope the kids.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, so maybe is that because of the change
Speaker 2: in the brain you just said or whatever? But yeah,
Speaker 2: so similar to mother's new fathers exhibit reduced gray matter
Speaker 2: and regions associated with social cognition, and increased activity in
Speaker 2: regions linked to attachment and empathy. Changes help men help
Speaker 2: men and develop empathy and patients, enabling them to connect
Speaker 2: with and respond to the nonverbal infant, et cetera, et cetera. Oh,
Speaker 2: what's really interesting about this is in women, pregnancy triggers
Speaker 2: those changes automatically.
Speaker 1: They've figured out men's brains change. The more you interact
Speaker 1: with the baby, the more they change, which is interesting.
Speaker 1: Do you know about kuvad syndrome, Jack?
Speaker 2: No, some men even experien when you like to have
Speaker 2: sex with dead people. Oh boy, it's very different.
Speaker 1: Some men even experienced sympathetic pregnancy symptoms such as weight
Speaker 1: gain or fatigue alongside their partner. WHOA, Yes, I've kind
Speaker 1: of heard people joke about that. I didn't know it
Speaker 1: was an actual thing, though.
Speaker 2: Wow, you gain weight alongside your partner.
Speaker 1: When the baby?
Speaker 2: Gun boy?
Speaker 1: Did I gain weight when we had our first kid?
Speaker 1: I didn't attribute it to that. Interesting?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm way out son.
Speaker 2: Brief.
Speaker 1: All right, here's your host for final thoughts, Joel Getty.
Speaker 1: Let's get a final thought from all the ogeez huh.
Speaker 1: Let's begin with Mike Langelow in the control room.
Speaker 7: Michael, I guess the President Trump and the President of China,
Speaker 7: there's been like a delay. Apparently they got on TikTok
Speaker 7: and they're hooked. He had never seen TikTok before. And
Speaker 7: backyard wrestling and boating mishaps is what they're watching right now.
Speaker 2: Can't stop scrolling. Yeah, it happens to us and to
Speaker 2: us all.
Speaker 1: Jack A final thought for us, I thank you guys.
Speaker 1: Convinced by our agent yesterday.
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll talk about it more tomorrow that we ought
Speaker 2: to be on TikTok.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I've got to look into that. We've never had TikTok
Speaker 2: on my phone. I've an anti it, but maybe it's
Speaker 2: just ignoring a giant chunk of the entertainment world. As
Speaker 2: long as I don't have to look at it. I
Speaker 2: know me.
Speaker 1: I'm easily led. I'm not strong enough to resist its wiles.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I worry about that too. I don't need another
Speaker 2: thing to waste time on. I guess my final thought.
Speaker 1: Is, gosh, I gotta be careful with that one. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be off tomorrow. I will explain why during what
Speaker 1: will be a fascinating and humiliating and pathetic. Armstrong and
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