1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace. I saw it. 2 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 2: You saw it, you heard the evidence, you heard the 3 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 2: women on the stand, what they recounted had been done 4 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 2: to them, the beatings, the bruises, the and more. But 5 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 2: I guess there was one person that wasn't listening, the judge. 6 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:26,479 Speaker 1: That's right. 7 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 2: In the last hours, the judge has sentenced Seawncomb's to 8 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 2: a slap on the wrist fifty not years, fifty months 9 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 2: NHS fifty months behind bars after a grueling eight week 10 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 2: trial with women on the stand recounting the worst moments 11 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 2: of their lives, showing photos of their bruises, their cuts, 12 00:00:54,000 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 2: they're bleeding, their infections, you name it. Fifty months Okay, 13 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 2: what does that boil down to? Fifty months minus fourteen 14 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 2: months he's already served while awaiting trial. That brings us 15 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 2: down to thirty six months. Sub track from that, like 16 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 2: the Feds love to do for quote good behavior behind bars, 17 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 2: he is gonna walk and about what would you say 18 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 2: two years joining me in all star powel, but first 19 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 2: straight out to San Crouping, joining US investigative journalists inside 20 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 2: the courtroom for this sentencing. He's been on the case 21 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 2: from the very very beginning and he is the star 22 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 2: of Sampson's World on YouTube. 23 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: What happened? What happened to this judge? 24 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 3: I don't know, Nancy. 25 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 4: I mean, like I said, his tone seemed like everybody 26 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 4: in the courtroom was like, oh wow, Diddy is going 27 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 4: away for a long time. And then it's almost as 28 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 4: if like you know, you're you're punishing your kid, and 29 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 4: you're like, I am so angry you did that, and 30 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 4: I can't believe you stole my car and you took 31 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 4: it out, and I'm gonna ground you for one month, 32 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 4: you know, like instead of years. I mean, it felt 33 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 4: like he was going to lay the hammer down on Ditty. 34 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 4: Everybody the family was literally heads down praying. 35 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 3: They thought worst case scenario. 36 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 4: But then, like you said, with good behavior with his 37 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 4: free Didty game program, he's looking like it's gonna People 38 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 4: were saying a year and a half tops that he 39 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 4: would serve out of that fifty month sentence. 40 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 2: Fifty months five zero. The max he's looking at is 41 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 2: thirty six months, because he's getting time off for good 42 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:49,119 Speaker 2: for time served straight out to Lann Shaw joining us. 43 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 2: She is the founder and director of Lan's Warriors, which 44 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 2: is a nonprofit dedicated to stopping sex trafficking and abuse 45 00:02:58,240 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 2: of women and girls. 46 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 5: Response, I am so sick and tired of Number one, 47 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 5: the justice system not understanding about victims of crimes of abuse, rape, 48 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 5: sexual exploitation. I am sick and tired all the time 49 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 5: of going to court and seeing this over and over again, 50 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 5: victim blaming. I am sick and tired of dirty Diddy. 51 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 5: That's exactly what he is. He's a pimp, he's a trafficker, 52 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 5: he's a sexual offender. We have seen the pictures, we 53 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 5: have heard from the women and some men, and I'm 54 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 5: tired of having to explain to vulnerable people. Listen, just 55 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 5: be a warrior. Listen, just keep speaking your truth. Listen, 56 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 5: it's going to get better, because it's not getting better. 57 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 5: So until we really address this speaking. 58 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: Your truth, you know what, Why bother? 59 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 2: That's what victims and abuse victims are thinking tonight. 60 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: Why bother? 61 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 2: Why go through all the hassle of even calling the police, 62 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 2: trying the case, reliving all the pain, being cross examined 63 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 2: like you're nothing but dirt on the stand for a 64 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 2: judge to then give a light sentence straight out to 65 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 2: Troy Slayton, veteran defense attorney joining us out of the 66 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 2: LA jurisdiction. He's been on Ditty's side fro since day one. 67 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 2: I guess you're happy tonight, right, Nancy. 68 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 6: I've never been on the side of Diddy. But what 69 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 6: I am on the side of is justice and the 70 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 6: rule of law. And what the judge did here was 71 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 6: follow the sentencing guidelines. Although he could have been sentenced 72 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 6: up to twenty years in a perfect world for you, 73 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,919 Speaker 6: he was sentenced based on what he was convicted of, 74 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 6: which was just the transportation for the purposes of protest. 75 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 2: You can stop right there, of rape, you can stop 76 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 2: right there because you are contorting the law. That is 77 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 2: not the law, Sam, Cruper join him outside the courthouse. Sam, 78 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 2: just a yes or no from you, please, Sam. Isn't 79 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 2: it true that on each count he could have gotten 80 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 2: ten years and run consecutively. 81 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: That would have been a twenty year sentence. 82 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 3: Yes, you are correct, Nancy. 83 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 2: Yes, so he was looking at twenty years behind bars, 84 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 2: but the judge and his wisdom gave him fifty five 85 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 2: zero months. 86 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 1: Isn't it true that in court the defense. 87 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 2: Was that Diddy Seawan Comes was actually the victim, that 88 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:37,239 Speaker 2: he had been what high for twenty four years, and 89 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 2: that's why he did the things he did. Voluntary use 90 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 2: with drugs or alcohol is not a defense, Sam, No. 91 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 4: It never is, Nancy. And I felt that the defense 92 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 4: was using that, saying that because he had been a 93 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 4: drug addict for over twenty five years that somehow that made. 94 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 3: Beating women okay. 95 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 4: You know, I know a lot of people have done 96 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 4: drugs in their life have never raised a hand to 97 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 4: a male or a female. So me personally hearing that 98 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 4: excuse and defense using it, I mean, and again he 99 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 4: was doing Molly. Molly's supposed to make you loving and 100 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 4: positive and all that stuff anyway, So obviously his violent, 101 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 4: traumatic upbringing is what is really to blame for his 102 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,119 Speaker 4: disgusting behavior towards women. 103 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 2: Right, you're ex gonna like you actually believe that his 104 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 2: violent upgrade. He's a multi millionaire, he's living in the 105 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 2: lap of luxury, yet he does to use all of 106 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 2: his advantage to. 107 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: Hurt other people. And speaking of hurting other people. 108 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,679 Speaker 2: I want you to listen to what we've learned about 109 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 2: the letter Cassie Ventiro wrote the judge, which he totally ignored. 110 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 7: Cassie bens an emotional three page letter to Judge Subermonium, 111 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 7: recalling that the entire world watch footage of Colmbs kicking 112 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 7: and beating her as she tried to run away from 113 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 7: a freak off. The defense attorneys called her relationship with 114 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 7: Holmes a great modern love story. Nothing could be further 115 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 7: from the truth. It was a horrific decade stained by abuse, 116 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 7: violence for sex, and degradation from which she still suffers 117 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 7: horrific nightmares and flashbacks that require psychological care. 118 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 2: Cassie Vinceira actually moved out of the state of New 119 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 2: York out of fear, to a location where she's keeping 120 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 2: her family and her children. 121 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: She's not the only one in fear. Listen. 122 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 8: Several of Combs's victims have written to the court urging 123 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 8: against leniency for the rap mogul Cassie and her parents' 124 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 8: assistants Mia and Capricorn Clark, stylist Deontay Nash, and personal 125 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 8: chef Jordan Atkinson have all implored the judge to consider 126 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 8: their safety, the full measure of Combs's harm, and Combs's 127 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 8: troubling lack of accountability as he hands down a sentence. 128 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 2: There was a warm and fuzzy video created by the 129 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 2: defense that was played in court. You brought up earlier, 130 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 2: Sam that there was nothing like that for any of 131 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 2: the victims. What about the video created by Shawn Combs's 132 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 2: defense team, what was it? 133 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, it felt, like I said, like a 134 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 4: wedding video or a Nike video or something that you 135 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 4: play at a tribute to somebody a happy Father's Day, 136 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 4: at seventieth birthday party. But it felt totally inappropriate that 137 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 4: they were even allowed to play this. 138 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 3: And think about how many of us even. 139 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 4: Have this much footage, this high quality footage shot of us, 140 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 4: that we could even edit together something like this. 141 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 3: And I think you brought up a good point, Nancy. 142 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 4: When the cameras are on, mister Combs, he knows how 143 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 4: to put on that good act. But when he didn't 144 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 4: know the cameras were on in that inter continental intercontinental hotel, 145 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 4: I think we were seeing a little bit more of 146 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 4: the real. 147 00:08:55,720 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 2: Shawn Combes, you know what, the dichotom in between what 148 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 2: he did to Cassie in that video, then paid about 149 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 2: one hundred thousand dollars to keep it quiet, to suppress it. 150 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 2: That was the real Seawan times. I guess the judge 151 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 2: forgot about that. Speaking of the video that Shawn comes 152 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 2: as defense team used in court to snow the judge. 153 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: Here's part of it. Watch if you dare the heart because. 154 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 9: You're my heart. 155 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 10: All right, okay, you my heart. 156 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 11: Okay, May God bless you and keep you happy and 157 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 11: keep you taking positive. Everything's not gonna be perfect at 158 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 11: this time in life. And you, you're a good person 159 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 11: that understands reality. 160 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 3: So we're gonna we're gonna. 161 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 11: Accentuate the positives in life because you're doing great. 162 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:54,839 Speaker 2: Here, bring me the barf bag Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. 163 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 9: The Heart because you're my heart. O. 164 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 2: All right, okay, you my heart man. 165 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 11: Okay, May God bless you and keep you happy and 166 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 11: keep you thinking positive. Everything's not gonna be perfect at 167 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 11: this time in life. And you, you, you're a good 168 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 11: person that understands reality. 169 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 3: So we're gonna we're. 170 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 11: Gonna accentuate the positives in life because you're doing great. 171 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: Bring me the barf bag. Did you see that? You 172 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:31,479 Speaker 1: want to tell me that Shawn comes. 173 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 2: Shaw comes to spend time with the elderly, not just 174 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 2: the elderly. You know who the little old lady is. 175 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 2: That's kim Porter's. Yes, Yes, that's kim Porter's grandma. 176 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: Yes, so he's. 177 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 2: Totally using his dead ex lover and her children to 178 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 2: get his sorry we're in, which is in a sling 179 00:10:54,720 --> 00:11:00,439 Speaker 2: out of jail, he is using the grandma. 180 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. 181 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 4: I mean, like I said, Nancy, the video was extremely odd. 182 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 4: It was it felt so inappropriate inside the courtroom. And 183 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,559 Speaker 4: again the magic of editing. I think about that video 184 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 4: without any music. It's like when we go to a 185 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 4: movie and if you just see the actors with no music. 186 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 4: But this video it pulls at your heartstrings because literally 187 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 4: the orchestrated music is making you feel this emotion of 188 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:30,959 Speaker 4: a family man, a father, a hard worker. But again, 189 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 4: like the judge said, it can't be overshadowed by the 190 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 4: video of Cassie Ventura being stomped, on, being kicked, on, 191 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 4: being dragged by her hair. You know, we can see 192 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 4: all the cute wedding videos and editing is amazing. They 193 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 4: have some beautiful shots here, but it's not gonna get 194 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 4: myself or the public, Nancy, to forget what the real 195 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 4: crimes committed here. 196 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: Were I about blame. 197 00:11:56,600 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 2: Shawn Kimes has ever actually married anybody? Did you say 198 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 2: wedding video? 199 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the wedding video for the wedding he 200 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 4: never had. 201 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 3: But it feels like a wedding. 202 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: It's a tribute. It's a tribute video, a tribute. Yeah, 203 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: you know what. I'm not the church lady. 204 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 2: I don't care who marries who or who doesn't marry 205 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 2: anybody that's not a felony. 206 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: So I really don't care. 207 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 2: But speaking of Cassie Ventura to Sidney Summer, joining US 208 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 2: Crime Stories investigative report, give me a little reality check 209 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 2: about what was done to Cassie Ventura. 210 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 12: Cassie was exploited us and put in a box. She 211 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 12: had essentially no career because Sean Palms promised to give 212 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 12: her one and then made her have sex with him 213 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 12: for days one end and other sports, giving her UTIs, infections, 214 00:12:56,880 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 12: source thruses, and even cut her face just before a 215 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 12: movie premiere. Shawn Colms brutally attached Cassie on a regular 216 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 12: basis behind closed doors in public. Prince's own security had 217 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 12: to pull combs off of Casfi at a house party. 218 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 12: Everyone knew it was an open secret that Shawn Holmes 219 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 12: was abusing Casfie Ventura for more than a decade, and 220 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 12: no one did any game. Cassie threatened suicide at least 221 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 12: three times during their relationship. Deontay Nash, her stylist, hit 222 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 12: her in a hotel room, but his efforts were dashed. 223 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 12: When Colm's employee showed up to bring Cassie back to him, 224 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:46,199 Speaker 12: she threatened to go over the balcony. That's how afraid 225 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 12: Cassie was of Shawn Colms. This was a waking nightmare 226 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 12: for her for nearly ten years. 227 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 2: To Troy Slayton, a defense attorney joining us out of 228 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 2: LA who seemed to stand by the judge's decision, the 229 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 2: limp arrested judge who sentenced Combs to just fifty months 230 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 2: now thirty six months behind bars. 231 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: Troy, this is a yes no answer. 232 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 2: You know what a UTI is? A urinary tract infection. 233 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: Do you know what that is? Okay? 234 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 2: So Cassie Ventura had so many urinary tract infections, mouth infections, 235 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 2: ulcers all over her body that regular antibiotics. 236 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: And this is because of all the freek hosts, the 237 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: sex acts she was forced to. 238 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 2: Perform by Combs on video at Freak Coffs that she 239 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 2: didn't want to do. And yes, I know the jury 240 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 2: did not come back guilty on sex trafficking, but no 241 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 2: one ever cross examined her or impeued your credibility on 242 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 2: those issues. So the judge ignored everything that was done 243 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 2: to cast Ventira, everything It didn't amount to. 244 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: A helipenes to him. You guys ulcers nancy. 245 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 6: When a jury doesn't convict somebody, that means not that 246 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 6: they're innocent, but that they're not guilty of those things. 247 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 6: If even yeah, one jer determines that that it's a 248 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 6: hung jury. But in this case, they found him not guilty. 249 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 6: All twelve jurors agreed that the government failed to meet 250 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 6: their burden. 251 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 3: But also, when you're not talking. 252 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 6: About what I asked, James also imposed another part of 253 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 6: the sense, not what I asked you. The judge sentenced 254 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 6: him to a find of a half a million dollars 255 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 6: five hundred thousand dollars. 256 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 2: He's already made that two times over from behind bars, 257 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 2: ringing out his private jit man, get with it. You 258 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 2: know that means nothing to him. 259 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 6: Despite all the parade of horribles that you and all 260 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 6: your guests have outlined, why are you calling it. 261 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 2: A parade of horribles? It was the evidence. I didn't 262 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 2: bring it on. The victims brought it on. 263 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 6: They testify even the pre sentenced report that doesn't favor 264 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 6: the prosecution, that doesn't favor the defendants. 265 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 3: Came in at about six years. 266 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: So I asked you that I did from that, and 267 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: you're answering that question. 268 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 2: You're giving an answer because you don't like the answer 269 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 2: to the question I asked you, Bethany Marshall, let me 270 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 2: ask you, do you remember all the UTIs and the 271 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 2: busted lips and the video of for getting dragged up 272 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 2: and down the hall of Shawn Colmes and nothing but 273 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 2: a towel. 274 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: He didn't care what anybody thought. 275 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 2: The beatings, the stomach ulcers, the mouth ulcers, the urinary 276 00:16:55,920 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 2: tract infections, what the judge forgot about all of it? 277 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: Does happened a few weeks ago. 278 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 9: You know what happened in court today, Nancy is there's 279 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 9: a parallel process between how p did he treated his 280 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 9: victims and how the court treated the victims. What you 281 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 9: have are materialistic, educated, older, powerful people who do not 282 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 9: think that the victims deserve anything. Brutality was sanctioned today, 283 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 9: just like during wars and other things like that, where 284 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 9: there's brutality and then all of a sudden it's rationalized 285 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 9: or dissociated from as if brutality is okay, Nancy, the 286 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 9: one thing you missed off the list is he actually 287 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 9: smashed her head against was it a bed or a 288 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 9: table and busted her lip right open. He tried to 289 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 9: stop her career. He gave her things, he took them away. 290 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 9: I mean, maybe what if we just use the word assault, blackmail, 291 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 9: and kidnapping with the victim hiding and plain sight. Does 292 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:59,360 Speaker 9: that make it easier for people to digest the reality? 293 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 2: The years was also confounding Sam Croupan joining us star 294 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 2: of Sampson's World on YouTube. At the very beginning, I 295 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 2: had fate that there would be a substantial sentence because 296 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 2: the judge said, hey, hey, I get to take into 297 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:17,679 Speaker 2: account everything I know about you, even the charges, the 298 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 2: claims and the charges on which you were acquitted. 299 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,679 Speaker 1: But he didn't. He didn't do that. 300 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 10: Sam. 301 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 2: I want you to see in that video the way 302 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 2: it comes used his own children today. 303 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 3: Now I'm a full time dad, and I'm gonna be 304 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 3: there for you, do everything, all of y'all every Sunday. 305 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 3: I gotta slow everything down. 306 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 2: The family. 307 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 6: Richer gets the. 308 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:44,919 Speaker 4: Family and each other makes some drugs. 309 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 3: Watching church, there is a definition of grief. 310 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: What a full time dad. 311 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 2: No, he was all over the world practically every week 312 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 2: doing freak. 313 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: Off for two or three days. 314 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 2: Even the night he got arrested, he knew he was 315 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 2: surrendering himself. 316 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: He was having a freak off and a five star 317 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: hotel in New York. 318 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, Nancy, I think this is kind of 319 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 4: illustrates almost the problem with social media. 320 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 3: You know, we see. 321 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 4: People that are able to act like a good parent 322 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 4: because you might see an Instagram post or a video 323 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 4: of them being a good dad. But to me, the 324 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 4: mark of a good father or mother is are you 325 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 4: in that child's life every single day. You know this 326 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 4: wedding video we saw, it's a beautiful montage of his moments. 327 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 3: I wish somebody could create a video like me to. 328 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 4: Show how great of a father I am. Like this, 329 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 4: But the facts remain. If you want to be a 330 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 4: good parent, it's about. 331 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 3: Every single day showing up. 332 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 4: It's not about showing up in a video that is 333 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 4: nicely put together with high production and great producers and editors. 334 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 3: If you're going to be you have to show up. 335 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 3: If you're going to be a parent. 336 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, I do not know what 337 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 1: happened to this judge, but I do know this. 338 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 2: Women all over the world are crushed at this sentence. 339 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: Hey, guys, I'm hearing in my ear. 340 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 2: Joining me right now is doctor Dwayne Hendrix, the former 341 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 2: warden at MDC. He is the founder of the New 342 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 2: da Light Foundation, and he's the author of See It, 343 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 2: Say It, Sees It. Doctor Hendrix, thank you for being 344 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 2: with us. Tell me about Seawan Comes's first night back 345 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 2: at the MDC tonight. I understand he's having spaghetti and meatballs, 346 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 2: salad and green beans. But guess what, Doctor Hendrix, Diddy 347 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 2: doesn't like spaghetti. 348 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: He's still upset. He wanted to walk free. 349 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 2: He even had a speaking engagement set up for Monday 350 00:20:58,240 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 2: in Miami. 351 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: He's like scaghetti. 352 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:05,959 Speaker 10: It's gonna be very lonely. And I can tell you 353 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 10: he did not receive a standing ovation when he got back. 354 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 10: And when he gets back to the jail. I'm not 355 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 10: sure if he's back at the facility at this time 356 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 10: right now, but I can tell you when he does 357 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 10: get back, it's gonna be a cold meal. No matter 358 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 10: how warming, it's gonna taste cold to him. And he's 359 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 10: not gonna have a standing ovation. He just needs to. 360 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 10: I think the euphoria of you know, not having those 361 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 10: other charges go against him, the racketeering and we having 362 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,880 Speaker 10: a life sentence. But his next plane ride, like we're 363 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 10: discussed in previous shows, his next plane ride is going 364 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 10: to be on a con Air flight with Martin chains 365 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 10: and a black box, and it's not going to be 366 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 10: on a private jet at the Miami this weekend, prepare 367 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 10: for this teaching engagement for on Monday in Miami. So 368 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 10: it's going to be lonely, it's going to be a 369 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 10: cold it's gonna be a cold night. But hopefully his 370 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 10: family will see say, he's a family man, So hopefully 371 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 10: his family will be visiting with him this weekend and 372 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 10: preparing him mentally for what's coming next, which is a 373 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 10: three year sentence at a federal prison somewhere close to 374 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 10: where he's going to release. And I want to clear 375 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 10: some up. I keep hearing somebody he'll be home in 376 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 10: a year and a half. I used to do sentence 377 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 10: calculations for a number of years. He is going to 378 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:26,400 Speaker 10: serve at least twenty eight more months in prison, So 379 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 10: if he gets his fifty four days a good time, 380 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 10: they'll get that, and he may spend about three to 381 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 10: four months on home confinement as long as he behaves 382 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 10: while he's at his next facility. But he will not 383 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 10: be coming home in a year and a half. 384 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:41,360 Speaker 1: He will, he'll be coming home. 385 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 2: Age to be happy about twenty eight months. Why do 386 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 2: you even say twenty eight months? We all know that 387 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,199 Speaker 2: is two years and four months. 388 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: I'm supposed to be happy about that. 389 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 2: You know how many victims I've represented, how many agassault 390 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 2: victims I've represented that have been beaten like pimp, beaten 391 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 2: by pimps like Sean Combs, more than I can even remember, 392 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 2: and it messes them up the rest of their lives. 393 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: They are never the same. 394 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 2: If they're lucky enough to have a family after that, 395 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 2: they raise their children in a way that makes them 396 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 2: raise their children in a way it never ends. That 397 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 2: is what Comes did to these women and many many more. 398 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 2: They're lined up filing civil lawsuits with real evidence. Maybe 399 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 2: they'll get a judge that actually listens to the evidence, 400 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 2: unlike this judge. And another thing, Krupin, If you're still 401 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 2: with me, isn't it true? Shawn Comes had a speaking 402 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 2: engagement set up for Monday. 403 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: He was that arrogant to think he was walking today. 404 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 2: Isn't it true he had a speaking engagement or as 405 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 2: you keep saying it, teaching engagement whatever Monday in my. 406 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 4: I mean, look, it's a teaching engagement in Nancy, not 407 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 4: a There's a big difference between a speaking engagement and 408 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 4: a teaching engagement. He was gonna go to Miami, go 409 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 4: to One Star Island, maybe you know, pop a little 410 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 4: bubbly and go to a teaching engagement. 411 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 3: You know what, I. 412 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: Don't care what it is crouping. 413 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 2: The point is, Hendrix, can you hear me, doctor Hendrix, 414 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 2: you're the. 415 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: Warden, the former warden. 416 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 2: He was so convinced he had this judge wrapped around 417 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 2: his little finger that he was going to walk today. 418 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 2: So I guess tonight he is over a thirty six 419 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 2: month sentence. To him, that's probably like life behind bars. 420 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 10: It is, and it's his arrogance just continue to go 421 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 10: on and on and on. But now I think reality 422 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 10: is going to set in, especially in about a month, 423 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 10: and they shouldn't tell him that. I was supposed to 424 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 10: te him where he's going. But he'll be moving. I'm 425 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,479 Speaker 10: sure they're going to be moving him out of Brooklyn. 426 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 10: Within the next thirty to forty five days to his 427 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 10: designated facility. And if he doesn't get the point, I 428 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 10: guarantee you when he is shaffled and put on that 429 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 10: plane for several hours until he gets to where he's doing, 430 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 10: the reality is going to set in that all thatsuph 431 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 10: you from coming down off those other charters not being convicted. 432 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 10: He's going to realize that he is now a convicted seller. 433 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 10: So there won't be any speaking in teaching engagements. I'm 434 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 10: sorry anytime soon, and I'll tell you this. He's been 435 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 10: teaching these entrepreneurship classes that the true test is. 436 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 2: Going to be please stop talking going through the classes 437 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 2: he's quote teaching behind bars are called it's all about me, Diddy? 438 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: Enough about me? What do you think about me? 439 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't want to hear about what he's 440 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 2: teaching behind bars. 441 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: He and beat these women. 442 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 2: He was convicted on two counts of the Man Act. 443 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,679 Speaker 2: Each one has a ten year sentence. He could have 444 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 2: gotten ten on each to run consecutively, that's twenty years. Instead, 445 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 2: he will walk most likely in less than thirty six 446 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 2: months thirty six months max. 447 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: That's what happened in court. 448 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 2: That is what happened in the court that tried Sean 449 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 2: Comes tonight. Women all over the country, victims beating victims, 450 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 2: sex trafficking victims have taken it on the chin again. 451 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 1: Thanks Judge, you had it all right here. 452 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 2: You could have sent a message to abusers and rapists, 453 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 2: but you didn't. You talk the talk, Judge O. Yes 454 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,919 Speaker 2: you did, and for a moment believed you, but you 455 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 2: did not walk the walk. You probably don't want to 456 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 2: hear it, but I'm telling you the truth. Judge failed. 457 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 2: You are the weak link in the judicial system. You 458 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 2: and you had the power, just like Combs had all 459 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 2: the power, all the advantage, and he squandered it on 460 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 2: a life of victimizing women. I want to thank all 461 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,439 Speaker 2: of our guests for being with us tonight, but first 462 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 2: I want to remember heroes. Heroes that come forward and 463 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 2: they fight the good fight, even. 464 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 1: Knowing very well they may lose. 465 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 2: Women against all odds that speak out, and I beg you, ladies, 466 00:27:54,960 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 2: keep fighting the good fight, because to me, you are 467 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 2: the American hero. 468 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: Nancy Grace signing off for tonight. Good night friend,