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Speaker 1: Com on Time on Target episode three ten and voices

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Speaker 1: It's been a little it's been a little time. The

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Speaker 1: I mean, And with your interview in Lois car mouch

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Speaker 1: You do that, it's gonna land on someone. There's gonna

425
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Speaker 1: be a lawsuit. Oh well yeah, my vision was it

426
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,200
Speaker 1: was in the city. But so yeah, and when I

427
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 1: sat there and listen, and it was kind of funny,

428
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,639
Speaker 1: and there was one guy that I snooped out in

429
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 1: the whole crowd was just wanting attention. He said he

430
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Speaker 1: was an Air Force ranger and he was laden, it

431
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:15,200
Speaker 1: was a sniper and all this stuff. And I knew

432
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,640
Speaker 1: right away whatever it was it was lying. So then

433
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 1: they got to see my anger because I picked him

434
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Speaker 1: up by the throat and shove him in the wall

435
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,239
Speaker 1: and in the middle of Hangar Man. Yeah yea, they

436
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 1: like they let him go for a minute, you know,

437
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:30,119
Speaker 1: and it's like it's got line. But anyway, but now

438
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 1: and and now you really, I don't think I have

439
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,399
Speaker 1: any anger issues from what I've seen. I don't. I

440
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 1: don't get mad. I use New York traffic to quail

441
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Speaker 1: my anger. If you can just sit in New York

442
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 1: traffic five days a week trying to get through the

443
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Speaker 1: Lincoln Tunnel at five or six o'clock in afternoon. You

444
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Speaker 1: can do anything. Yeah, So that's why I take the

445
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 1: train for me from Long Island. I don't want to

446
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Speaker 1: sit in that um all right, So really quick, I

447
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Speaker 1: wanted to talk about an article on soft rep dot

448
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Speaker 1: com just because it had significance to when we're recording this, UM,

449
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 1: tomorrow will be, but today is uh, you know, let

450
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Speaker 1: me double check that right. Today's nine. Today is the nineteen,

451
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 1: so it'll be tomorrow. Um. You know, you'll you'll hear

452
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Speaker 1: about this. But Luke, one of our writers, Luke Ryan Newer,

453
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Speaker 1: writer wrote and a copy editor. On December nineteenth, seventy two,

454
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Speaker 1: a command module came careening back into Earth's atmosphere, deployed

455
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Speaker 1: its parachutes, and landed in the Pacific Ocean at PM.

456
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Speaker 1: The USS uh tick if I'm pronouncing this right? Tick

457
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Speaker 1: tick on droga Okay, I gotta an Essex class aircraft

458
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Speaker 1: carrier that has since been decommissioned and scrapped was located

459
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 1: only four miles away, and they picked up the three

460
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Speaker 1: astronauts safely, bringing them aboard. They had completed the final

461
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Speaker 1: mission of the Apollo program, Apollo seventeen. So I just

462
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Speaker 1: thought that was a cool, um noteworthy thing to mention

463
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Speaker 1: on this day and as you were saying, you know,

464
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Speaker 1: hopefully see more space missions. Yeah, oddly enough to my

465
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 1: my stepfather, who adopted me at nine years old, served

466
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Speaker 1: on the Taikondo Roga and the Korean conflict. Which it's

467
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,160
Speaker 1: kind of interesting that you just brought that up. But yeah,

468
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,640
Speaker 1: I think two days ago I heard or yesterday maybe

469
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 1: that Trump is you know, gonna beef up our space

470
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Speaker 1: program once again and maybe send people back to the

471
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Speaker 1: Moon and long term plans to send people to Mars.

472
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Speaker 1: So yeah, I think it's a great time. You know

473
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Speaker 1: that it was a good article, good catch, you know,

474
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Speaker 1: because most peopleouldn't even think about that. So yeah, it's

475
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Speaker 1: interesting when you see, um, how long it's been since

476
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:45,680
Speaker 1: we've planted someone on the moon. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you'll

477
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 1: drive into politics, you know this. I get a little miffed.

478
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,159
Speaker 1: I do get miffed, right when I think about the

479
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 1: progressive path that we've been on long before Obama and

480
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Speaker 1: the Clintons, you know, back from Woodrow Wilson. Every time

481
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 1: I drive over the Woodrow Wilson Bridge. I think you

482
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:08,120
Speaker 1: should rename it. Yeah. Um, it's got a guard tower

483
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 1: that's unmanned. I figured that's gonna get manned one day

484
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 1: because you know, if you listen to Obama enough, we're

485
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,639
Speaker 1: cutting down on this, but we're picking up on technology

486
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 1: and it's just sucking money out of our taxpayers for bullshit,

487
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 1: you know, I mean physical feed on the ground anywhere.

488
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:31,120
Speaker 1: It's just better then theory. Yeah, And I think there's

489
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 1: always been um, you know, from what I've heard, this

490
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 1: is one of those opinions people have had. It was

491
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Speaker 1: that Bush was very good on the space program. Obama

492
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 1: was not. Um. I've even heard people on the left

493
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Speaker 1: say that. But there's always this argument about, like, you know,

494
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 1: we have poverty in America, we have all these issues,

495
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Speaker 1: why are we spending money on a space program. But

496
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 1: I think technologically and and the benefits that can come

497
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Speaker 1: out of it from the long term, it's important to

498
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Speaker 1: have a good space program. And and also, like I

499
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 1: hear about Elon Musk and SpaceX and all these things

500
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 1: that they're doing. I think it's all great. And I'm

501
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,159
Speaker 1: a guy who believes in the private sector, but you

502
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,679
Speaker 1: do need the government to be behind a good space program.

503
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,120
Speaker 1: It can't all be done in the private sector. Oh yeah,

504
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 1: I mean what I've been following recently is the laser technology, uh,

505
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 1: the ability to shoot down hypothetically North Korean or I

506
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 1: ran in a nuclear missile with a laser beam. That

507
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 1: sounds like this the star Wars program that Reagan said,

508
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 1: which we didn't really have, right, well, this is way

509
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Speaker 1: beyond it. You can look it up online. It's that

510
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 1: they don't have airborne platforms actually work already. It's pretty

511
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 1: badass stuff, you know. So stuff like that it's very important,

512
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 1: you know, to me. Um so when I saw Harry

513
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 1: that Harry reads I recently siphoned off twenty two million

514
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 1: dollars for UFO research. It's just another way to the

515
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 1: elite group and the progressives to uh siphon more money

516
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Speaker 1: out of the taxpayer. You know, are already is wrong?

517
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 1: You know, yes, first space exploration not to Harry Read

518
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 1: and is you know UFO research for twenty two million bucks.

519
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, if they come and land on the planet,

520
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 1: we'll probably know about it pretty quick. Yeah, But they

521
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: just put so much crap in these bills so they

522
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: can just put money in their pocket. Yeah for sure.

523
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: But anyway, UM so, I guess with that we might

524
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 1: as well get over to wiz Car Mouch. I'm I'm

525
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 1: really excited for this um and hopefully we have a

526
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 1: lot of new people listening who aren't familiar with what

527
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 1: we do, because I know Liz has a lot of fans,

528
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 1: and I always say there's a lot of crossover between

529
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Speaker 1: m m A and the UFC and what we do,

530
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 1: especially what you do, Jim. Yeah, so let's get over

531
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Speaker 1: to it. So joining us for the first time on

532
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Speaker 1: Software Radio is wiz Car Mooch. I actually interviewed Liz

533
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 1: a while back for Serious x M. We did this

534
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 1: Veteran special, and I was thinking, it's like a natural

535
00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 1: fit to have Liz on Software Radio, especially with you, Jim,

536
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 1: with your background. Um so, it's it's an honor to

537
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 1: have you on. Thank you for having me absolutely. So.

538
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Speaker 1: The first thing I figured is the tie in with

539
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,439
Speaker 1: soft rep is that Wiz is a former marine. I mean,

540
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: everybody knows you from the UFC and what you've done

541
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 1: in m m A and your training, but let's get

542
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 1: into your background growing up and and becoming a marine.

543
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 1: I grew up in Okanawa, Japan. This I spent about

544
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 1: seventeen years of my life. Um, and you see the

545
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: influences there. You see the different branches of the military.

546
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: And not only did I went to school off base,

547
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 1: but I worked on base, so I got to see

548
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: and work with all the different branches and kind of

549
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 1: see them from who they were, not only in their

550
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 1: professional work environment but also on the when they're out

551
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: in town and just enjoying themselves. And the Marine Corps

552
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 1: really would always shine through for me. They were exemplary

553
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: and everything that they did. Like if you had a

554
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: marine they got in trouble drinking, somebody else snatched him up,

555
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 1: took them back on base and you never saw an incident. Um,

556
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: most physically fit, most professionals, everything that they embodied that

557
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: I wanted to be, and seeing some of the other

558
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 1: branches they're a little bit sloppier, wasn't really my deal, um.

559
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 1: And I kind of had in my head to do

560
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: do the military for a long time. I thought I'm like, oh,

561
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'll join the Air Force and play soccer

562
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: for the military, do something on those lines. And as

563
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: I got to know the military more, I was like, yeah,

564
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go to school that long to be

565
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: an officer, so that's on an option. So Maraine Corps

566
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: is definitely what sticks it out to me. And I

567
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: wanted to go in as uh special forces or going

568
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 1: as a grunt. That obviously didn't work out being a female.

569
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Speaker 1: So I joined from Okanawa, Japan, went straight to Hawaii

570
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 1: to maps from maps all the way to Preparas Island

571
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: and the rest has in history. Yeah that sounds good.

572
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: So well, I want to thank you for your service

573
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Speaker 1: as well. And I did a quick uh Wikipedia searchs

574
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: and you spent three tours already huh and I did.

575
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: I did. That's freaking awesome. I got a good friend

576
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: of mine who did the same thing you did. I

577
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: spoke to him yesterday and he's, uh, my age, I'm

578
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 1: in my sixties now, but he's sitting a one degree

579
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: weather by his pool side down in Florida, so giving

580
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 1: me ship but good guy. Uh So a couple of

581
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 1: things real quick. You know, I used to train with

582
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Speaker 1: Joe Lewis years ago and he's a former marine. He

583
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 1: studied in Okinawa in nineteen, which shows how far back

584
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 1: you yeah. Um, And when I went through the combat diver. Course. Uh,

585
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: my die buddy was a Force Recon guy, and I

586
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 1: got when when when Liz talks about physically fit, you know,

587
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: when you think you're physically fit, the Marines have you know,

588
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: you always hear about Navy and you've heard me say

589
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: this before Navy seals and I and I'm one, you know,

590
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 1: a Special Forces green breat combat diver. Right, I'm not

591
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: a n C. I'm coming at every in the Special

592
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: Forces community. But uh, and and then listen, not to

593
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: take anything away from anybody, but these two guys that

594
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: came in from the Force Recon were like physical freaks,

595
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 1: and uh, it's pretty impressed. I thought I was the

596
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: fastest guy on the planet until my partner showed up

597
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: and there was a tug of war going through the

598
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: water on a buddy buddy line. You know, so he

599
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: is an animal. And I got nothing but nothing but

600
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: mad respect for these guys and and you as well.

601
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: Is because yeah, I know, I know for sure, Paris

602
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: Islands not a cakewalk. No, especially it was my my

603
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: first time really being state side. I spent a few

604
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: summers in Alaska as a kid, but really Alaska isn't

605
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: part of the unit. States. It's not even the same.

606
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: It's his own embodiment off on its on its own.

607
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: So it's my first being state side and really experiencing

608
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 1: all the seasons. I went through August through November, so

609
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: I got to experience the last part of the intense

610
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: summer into winter climate with snow and stuff. And I

611
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: never experienced snow so here I am. It's like, oh,

612
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: this is great, and of course like, oh, you can

613
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: sleep under your blanket, but you have to wake up

614
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: an hour early to make it. I was like, no,

615
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 1: that's okay. I'll just sleep at attention on the top

616
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 1: of my rack and just enjoyed sleep. It's not worth

617
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: it all. Freeze. I'll take freezing. Oh my god. Yeah,

618
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: it's a it's a different different level of pridefulness with

619
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Speaker 1: the Marine Corps, you know. H even I'm an army guy,

620
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: I've always respected that, and my son just joined the

621
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 1: Air Force and I respect that as well, you know.

622
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: I just I appreciate anybody that serves and takes your time,

623
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Speaker 1: you know, so thank you. And then uh, you know,

624
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: as far as the fight game and having you on,

625
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: it's pretty cool, uh. I. The guys I trained with

626
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: through the years if you go back and look at

627
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: the American karate stuff. I worked with Jerry Pennington and

628
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: Danny Wilson, Joe Lewis, build Superfoot Wallace and Uh, all

629
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: those guys. And it came out of the Joe Lewis

630
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 1: UH and Bruce Lee and all that crowd. And two

631
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: of two of those guys had degrees in kinesiology. And

632
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: I saw that you're studying to get your degree in kinesiology.

633
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: And I gotta tell you all these fight principles and

634
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: motion and how muscles were recoil and you know, single

635
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: extremity motion and conservation of angular momentum. It came from

636
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 1: people like you that actually study this mess. I've learned.

637
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: You know, I have this amazing ability to uh absorb

638
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: what you put out really quick because I just do

639
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 1: it through repetition. But yes, it's what you're doing that

640
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: path that's gonna set you apart in the future. Yeah,

641
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: you know, I think that more and more, you're seeing

642
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: a lot of UFC fighters that have an education. I think,

643
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,719
Speaker 1: I know, especially for myself, when I first looked into fighting,

644
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: it to me was street thugs. That we're doing it

645
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 1: in front of people for for money. Is entertainment and

646
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: and that's kind of how I thought about it. Um.

647
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: But now more and more you see fighters that have

648
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: PhD s, m d s. They have college education, and

649
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: they're intelligent people. And we we study fighting because it's

650
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: all encompassing. Um. I mean, I played soccer and the

651
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: only thing you have to focus on is just being

652
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: a good runner and being able to to do certain

653
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: things with the soccer ball war as an m m A.

654
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: It's chess. You have to understand your opponent. You have

655
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: to understand your strengths or weaknesses, and study all of

656
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 1: these different martial arts. And if you grow stagnant for

657
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 1: a single second, you fall back in the game. And

658
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 1: that's Me's a lot of fun. I like something that's

659
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 1: constantly making me evolve and grow and pushing me to

660
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: new the levels. Yeah, true enough. I told my son,

661
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: who I've actually trained since he was very young, and uh,

662
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 1: you know, when he'd see a street fight a thug,

663
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: you know something, I'd always tell him his name is Richard,

664
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: I said, Richard, listen to me. All these world champions, Uh,

665
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 1: they they're interesting people that most of them are highly

666
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 1: intellectual guys. Comedians and fighters are some of the smartest

667
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 1: people in the world. And uh, you would never know

668
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: that unless you said when I I used to travel

669
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: with Joe Lewis and helped train him when he did

670
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: his over forty comeback, And uh, he would sit there

671
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: with a dictionary all day long and he would study

672
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: to pick up three new words every day, write them,

673
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 1: learn them, just on stop, you know, just constant study.

674
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: And yeah, that's cool. I'm glad you reckon. You want

675
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: a few people actually talk about it. And and even

676
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,240
Speaker 1: because you realize that early, at least in my opinion,

677
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:13,879
Speaker 1: some of the guys are smart and they just got

678
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: into it right. But it looks like you're you're going

679
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you're never smart, but you're going through

680
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: your Your path is one of the more logical paths

681
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: and its and it's not easy. And I'll tell I'm

682
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: really impressed by anybody takes that road. You know. Thank

683
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: you so getting into your background with m M A. Um.

684
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting that you did say early on

685
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: that people looked at M M A Fighters as these

686
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: street thugs, and and now we see where it is.

687
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,439
Speaker 1: I remember growing up because you're, you know, a couple

688
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: of years older than me. I remember the first UFC

689
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: it was like this no holds barred type thing, and

690
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: it was it was like scary for people to see.

691
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 1: They didn't know what to expect this whole thing. And

692
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: now it's become a lot more respected of his sport.

693
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 1: But especially when you went in as a women's mm

694
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: A fighter. There was no women's UFC. You were in

695
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: the first women's UFC match. Of course, Like, what drives

696
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: you to want to do this because it definitely wasn't

697
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 1: anything at the time that people saw as a lucrative

698
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: career as a woman. Yeah, the biggest driving factor for

699
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,280
Speaker 1: me was wanting that that challenge to be the best.

700
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: I mean, there are certainly opportunities where you can make

701
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 1: quick money go for these fights, and there's some local

702
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: shows where I knew that skill wise, I had picked

703
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: up a lot more than some of the people I

704
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: would be facing. It would be an easy win. But

705
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: to me, that's just basically being a bully. If you

706
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: have the education, you have the skill in the strength,

707
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,879
Speaker 1: and you're gonna go against somebody that doesn't just to win,

708
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: that's that's just being a bully. There's no advantage. I

709
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: don't come out of there going, Yeah, I want I

710
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 1: feel so good about myself. Ago, yeah, I should have

711
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 1: won because I have all these in my advantage. I

712
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: better win this fight. And I always wanted to just

713
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: compete against the best, whether it was lucrative or not,

714
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: the idea of being the best in the world. I

715
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 1: want to be the best. I don't want to go

716
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: against easy wins, easy people words to guarantee. I want

717
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: to know that I challenge myself to be the best

718
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: person I could possibly be the best fighter. And then

719
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: I'm going to get somebody that's doing the same thing,

720
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 1: and that we get in there and on our best

721
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 1: to days or worst of days, we put on a

722
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 1: performance and give everything we have to see who's gonna

723
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 1: come out on top. And that's always been the driving

724
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 1: factor for fighting for me. When did your background in

725
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: martial arts in general begin. I kind of dibbled out

726
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: a little bit with different forms of when I was

727
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: a kid, but the attention I had no attention span.

728
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I want to be a rocket

729
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 1: scientist today, Tomorrow I want to play soccer. The next

730
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: day I want to get and there's no keeping up

731
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: with me. I don't know how my mom ever did

732
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 1: it because her deal was always had to be a balance.

733
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: I could do any aggressive support of martial art, but

734
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: I had to have a soft balance for it. So

735
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: I did taekwondo for maybe a month, but I also

736
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: had to do ballet for a month, So there's always

737
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: something given a take with that, and uh, it's it's

738
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: natural course in Okinawa, you see all those things. But

739
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 1: I was always attracted to martial arts, but never had

740
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: the attention to Spangana follow through with it. I ended

741
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: up playing a team sports dog growing up mostly soccer,

742
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: and it wasn't again until I was in the Marine

743
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 1: Corps and about to get out and doing different work.

744
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: I was just lifting and right, and I'm like, this

745
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: is so boring. I can I've already tested to see

746
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: how jacked I can get, how much weight I can gain,

747
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,879
Speaker 1: how much I can max out, And then I wanted

748
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: to see how thin I could get by just running

749
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: all the time and just being a cross country runner,

750
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 1: and so I kind of tested out both fields and

751
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, that's not I don't feel challenged.

752
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 1: I feel like I was able to do that. Both

753
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: were easy, but I'm not really getting anything out of it.

754
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: And a few people I worked with told me to

755
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 1: check out M m A Like, look, you know your

756
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: attention span, you're naturally aggressive, you're naturally competitive. Uh. Some

757
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: of the stuff that we do for the training, the

758
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 1: Marine Corps was always pushing to be the best of it, Like,

759
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:46,399
Speaker 1: you really should check out A m A. I don't

760
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: know anything about him A. I looked it up and

761
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 1: the first fight I ever saw was gory, bloody. I

762
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 1: was like, are you kidding me? This is it? It's

763
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: you guys, No, Like this is just two street fighters.

764
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: There would be blooding each other up. Just put inside

765
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 1: is entertainment, Like, no, this is disgusting. I can't condone this.

766
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 1: I can't believe you guys watch those. Uh. And so

767
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,320
Speaker 1: I was like, lookook, you saw the worst fights to

768
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 1: start with. Just why don't you just look up some

769
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: of the workouts and the diet and stuff. So I

770
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: look out the workouts, I'm like, all right, these are

771
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 1: pretty good. Like I'm I'm feeling challenge. I like this

772
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 1: to the diet is pretty cool, all right. And then

773
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 1: realize when I got back from I Act that I

774
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: wanted to actually try and pursue a little bit more.

775
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 1: I started getting into watching fighting out there and I

776
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: saw Cyborg and I was convinced that I could fight Cyborg,

777
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 1: not realizing we're not even close to the same way class.

778
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: It took me seeing her strikeforce. I'm looking at and going,

779
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I'm like half your size. I just finding

780
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 1: it one time, but at the time, like I had

781
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: no concept of what my body's limitations and abilities were.

782
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: I just do that. I wanted to try it, and

783
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: my dream was Cyborg was the topic you could get in,

784
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: the most competitive you could get, and that's where I

785
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: wanted to go. I was like, I can show everybody

786
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 1: I can beat Cyborg um and got into training, fell

787
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: in love with it off right off the bat, breaking

788
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 1: my nose, hair ripped out, clothes ripped, and I was hooked.

789
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 1: So so you think Hilly Holmes stands a chance against Cyborg,

790
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 1: I think she does. I think Holly does because she

791
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 1: has competed at one before and because her stand up

792
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 1: is really good. But Cyborg is a whole different creature.

793
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 1: She's on a whole different playing field from other people

794
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 1: she I know Cyberg, she's a sweetheart outside of the cage,

795
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,280
Speaker 1: but she is ruthless in there, and she gives everything

796
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 1: she has, and that balance, I think is exactly what

797
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 1: what drives her to be so good. Yeah, that's awesome.

798
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 1: So I was looking as I was looking at first

799
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: of all, Ian always uh when these fights come up,

800
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: he goes, Hey, Jim, who's gonna win? Because I'm really

801
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 1: good at predicting outcome of fights based on a number

802
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: of things that I look at when I see a fighter.

803
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,479
Speaker 1: I mean, when I was learning how to rep free fights,

804
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: many many many you weren't even born yet, Joe Louis,

805
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,040
Speaker 1: you know, I had me. It was getting tray in

806
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: me to become a referee. And I go travel around

807
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: and we're sitting at ringside and watch two guys beat

808
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: the crap out of each other, and he's like, so,

809
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: why is this guy winning? Who's gonna win? And I

810
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 1: started trying to break this fight down, and goes, Jim,

811
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 1: there's only two things a fighter brings into the ring.

812
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 1: I go outside. It goes offense and defense, and if

813
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: you either want to lack in there in trouble, I

814
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 1: go okay. So, but so we used do a lot

815
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: of study, you know, on fighters, and uh, so I

816
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,399
Speaker 1: took about a twenty minute scan before this interview at

817
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: based on Wikipedia only, and I watched a couple of

818
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 1: video clips, and you know, it's funny you throw out there, Jim.

819
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: It's not like you just went on Wikipedia. You like,

820
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 1: you regularly watch UFC, so you watched her last fight.

821
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, now I watch a lot of stuff, and

822
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: and uh it's I just think fighting is so interesting

823
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 1: to see how people survive, you know, and and to

824
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 1: lose this point, it's about being the best you can be.

825
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,320
Speaker 1: And I like when Perry do you watch Perry loses

826
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 1: last weekend? Liz? I mean this, this guy is an animal,

827
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 1: but he was fighting the wrong fight completely. He was

828
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 1: fighting a long fight. You know, he's giving up two

829
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: inches and reaching two inches in height against the guy

830
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: that can do five rounds. And uh, Perry's he's just

831
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: not there yet. So I mean, he's gonna his next

832
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 1: fight is gonna be really interesting how they match him up.

833
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 1: But when I looked at yours, your first tenth and

834
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 1: and I had this crazy memory, uh crazy memory. I

835
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 1: can glance and stuff and it never goes away. But

836
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 1: I looked at your first ten fights before the UFC,

837
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,720
Speaker 1: and you were, just like you said, in your mind, Bully,

838
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 1: I don't think your bully, but you you you rapidly

839
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: grew out of that class. And I had a big

840
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 1: question for me, is the class of fighters in the

841
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: UFC different than your previous UFC experiences? And right, and

842
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 1: with that and with that said, I noticed that you

843
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: have one opponent that's beat you twice and she's barely

844
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 1: beating you, if at all. And you're going, you know,

845
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: so you're you're getting three rounds out of each and

846
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 1: every one of these your last six fights. You know,

847
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: you're you're right on the verge of and you went

848
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: from decision you know, uh, you know, from the unanimous

849
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 1: decision to split decision. So you're you're, if you attract

850
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 1: and trend your progress, you're actually getting better all the time.

851
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 1: You're wanted to step from whatever you think you want

852
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: to be, in my opinion, with just a couple of

853
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 1: minor adjustments, and it's easy to see if you could

854
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:33,439
Speaker 1: chart that, you know, like on a it's what you're

855
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: doing is pretty pretty amazing. And I know your owning

856
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 1: your own gym, and you're dealing with the kids and

857
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: the peaceful philosophy and all that. You know, that's got

858
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 1: to tell you a little bit because what you're doing,

859
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,320
Speaker 1: it's hard to get a lot of those kids in

860
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: there with that mentality is going to put them in

861
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,919
Speaker 1: a ring. So, I mean, you're taking on so much.

862
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,919
Speaker 1: It's amazing that you're you're actually trending in a really

863
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 1: positive direction for people that look at where you're headed,

864
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: you know, it is it is pretty difficult to balance everything. Um.

865
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 1: But also we were just talking about the other day,

866
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: somebody suggests, why don't you take a vacation and just relax.

867
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: I don't know how to sit still and relax, so

868
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 1: so boring and I can't possibly fathom what to do.

869
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 1: Like I was feeling, we had a few people they're

870
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 1: outstick and I was feeling a little bit under the

871
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 1: weather over the weekend, and my business partners like, hey,

872
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: just just take Saturday off and ines, actually I just

873
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 1: strove to work. He told me just to take the

874
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 1: day off. But it's instinct, so I know, there's like,

875
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,800
Speaker 1: what are you doing here? I'm like, I don't know.

876
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:34,320
Speaker 1: I don't know how to sit at home and just

877
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: relax and just be still. Yeah, but I also have

878
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: the really great support system. My business partner. Not only

879
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: is he my business partner, but he's my friend. I

880
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 1: consider him family, but he's also my head coach, Bill

881
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 1: Bill Crawfords, so he helps out with everything for my

882
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,879
Speaker 1: strength and and isitioning from letting me beat him up

883
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 1: with with techniques and just destroying his body, uh, to

884
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: being a mentor when it comes to the business side

885
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: of things. And then the staff that we have. Everybody

886
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,879
Speaker 1: there not only are they their staff and they're working

887
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: in their teaching classes, but they're also training partners, so

888
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: I take everything from them, and everybody was just so supportive,

889
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 1: especially in this fight, but they always are like if

890
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, guys, I need to take a few

891
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 1: days to really grind in training, we got you. It

892
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 1: will take care of you. And then my fiancee who

893
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 1: also helps me out. So with those balances, I don't

894
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: think that I could be where I'm at if I

895
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 1: didn't have all these people in my life that are

896
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 1: helping me to be the best I can be as

897
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,879
Speaker 1: a fighter and as a person. That's great. So tell

898
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 1: us actually a little bit about the training school that

899
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 1: you have. Also, I have three schools. I have tin Planet, Michigani,

900
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: Spring Valley and Ocean Side, and Oceanside being the newest

901
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 1: one um we have where we were saying to combat

902
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 1: academy and then the Tin planet system just blew up

903
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: so much. I mean, everybody's familiar with Joe Rogan and

904
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:02,720
Speaker 1: Eddie Bravo, and then everybody loves Bravo's conspiracy theories on everything.

905
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: He's like a flat earther, I believe. Uh. So, we

906
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: were fortunate enough that Richie Martinez fought one of our

907
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: fighters and it was the first time he'd ever thrown

908
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 1: down an m M a fight and ever had to

909
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 1: actually struggle. He's like, well, I don't know what you

910
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 1: guys did. He's like, usually I submit everybody thin the

911
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 1: first ten seconds and it went all the way to

912
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 1: decision um and he's like, yeah, I've never experienced that before.

913
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 1: He's like, whatever you guys are doing, I want to

914
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: be a part of it. So we started having a

915
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: come through in training with us, and we'd offer him like, hey,

916
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:34,800
Speaker 1: why don't you teach a few classes, Like you have

917
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: a different jiu jitsu style that's been working so successfully

918
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 1: for you, Maybe just teach us a few things if

919
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,959
Speaker 1: we can't help each other. And then it turned into

920
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: he's the head black belt at our school. He runs

921
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 1: Mission Valley. His brother now is a head black belt

922
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,720
Speaker 1: at Oceanside. Uh, he's produced a black belt PJ. Birch.

923
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 1: It's a head out of Spring Valley and it's just

924
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 1: blown up for Tenth Plant. I mean, we now have

925
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: a Lima Lae McFarlane, who's HERD champion as well, has

926
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 1: come back to a champion, So she's my main training partner,

927
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 1: and she's been produced from all of our efforts and

928
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,760
Speaker 1: ten Planet has just grown so substantially we couldn't possibly

929
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 1: projected where it was going to go with everything. Now

930
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: that's awesome. I'm just sitting here thinking, you know, because

931
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 1: like I said, I always you know, we are always

932
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 1: critics when we're outside the ring, and I'm not. I

933
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 1: would you have so many weapons and so much energy

934
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: and strength and drive and that marine core background. I

935
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:32,839
Speaker 1: suspect has a lot to do with that as well.

936
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: But one of my friends says, what would you do different?

937
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: I said, well, I wouldn't do much different with her.

938
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: But the one thing you can't teach us patients, when

939
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:44,320
Speaker 1: I watch you fight, you want to you want to

940
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 1: kill him right away, you know, you know. The only

941
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: thing I see is during that transition. It's it's sometimes

942
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 1: it's so fast, I'm not sure that you know. Things

943
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 1: don't happen by mistake, and your opponent might get a

944
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 1: little momentary advantage. But if you could slow down a

945
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 1: half a second, you're so you're so anxious and and

946
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 1: most people that fight with your level of anxiousness cannot

947
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: last like you do. Your your your endurance is sick

948
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:18,399
Speaker 1: in a good way, very possible. But if I could

949
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,240
Speaker 1: teach you anything in the world, I said, just patients.

950
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: I used to tell my fighters, and back when I

951
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 1: used to train fighters, like when you hit the if

952
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 1: you go down on the ground or whatever, I would

953
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: tell them that, you know, it's always position before performance.

954
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: And a lot of times we'll feel that open and

955
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,839
Speaker 1: where you're so smooth, and I think your early days

956
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 1: of you know, tai kwando and ballet, you're so flexible

957
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 1: that you're gonna feel a lot more movement than the

958
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,320
Speaker 1: average person will, and you feel it you automatically just

959
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 1: go like a magnet, you know. And I'm not I

960
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 1: would everything there's positive, is very positive. But just my

961
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: advice to anybody is, you know, is position before performance

962
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 1: sometimes you know, even when I used to train and

963
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: fight all my fighters all the time. I'll smell blood

964
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 1: in the water, I'll just go right at it, and

965
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 1: where if I just paused for half a second, out

966
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 1: of got there a lot quicker. And it's kind of

967
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 1: interesting just watching you're you're a very interesting fighter. I

968
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 1: mean you You've got so much talent in in your

969
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 1: mind and your body, and it's really really insane. It's good.

970
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:26,479
Speaker 1: Thank you. I get the feeling Jim is like dying

971
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 1: to train you. No, no, no no, you wanted to

972
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 1: with uh when we had Tim Kennedy on, well listen

973
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 1: so here. It is because you guys have that bad

974
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 1: that military background and and carmaderie that I think is

975
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 1: and you share, you know, this love for martial arts.

976
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: I feel, you know, I feel like it would be

977
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 1: cool if you ever got the chance to train. Was

978
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 1: so lis I started. I have a website it's called

979
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 1: American Extension Fighting, which really I don't do much on it,

980
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: write a few letters and stuff, but I actually have

981
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,360
Speaker 1: my own martial arts system. Train it's start to fighting

982
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 1: sanctioned all the way back through Japan. Uh. I've been

983
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: doing this over fifty years. And Jerry Pennington is the

984
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 1: guy who put all this stuff together for me and

985
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:14,320
Speaker 1: uh evaluated the system at every level, which, uh what

986
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 1: what the purpose behind this system is kind of a

987
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 1: gap filler, because there's always a gap. If you're a

988
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 1: taekwondo guy, you might have weak hands. If you're a boxer,

989
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 1: you may not be able to stop leg kicks. If

990
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 1: you're a mue tai guy, you may sit on your

991
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 1: you know, your back leg too much trying to block off,

992
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 1: you know, some of the kicks. What I do is

993
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: I look at every fighter and every fight style. I've

994
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 1: been looking at him over fifty years, and I go,

995
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 1: you know, there's always something that we can do better.

996
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 1: And with that said, it's very important based off what

997
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 1: the end just said that one of the things I

998
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 1: never do is take away anything that you already have.

999
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's about just implementation and if it's something taking

1000
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: a half a second pause before moving or you know, uh,

1001
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 1: learning how to put your weight where it needs to be.

1002
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: Based off what type of fighter, I can take any

1003
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 1: fighter in the world, Liz, and in the first five

1004
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 1: minutes identify exactly what kind of fighter you are. And

1005
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 1: if if you take Perry when I said he was

1006
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:18,720
Speaker 1: fighting the wrong fight whoever. You know, all his training

1007
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 1: and stuff. I have nothing but mad respect for him,

1008
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,879
Speaker 1: and and he too, because he's a badass guy, really

1009
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 1: badass guy, and not the kind of guy you want

1010
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 1: to hook up when I had Dark Alley right, but

1011
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:30,839
Speaker 1: uh you know, if you want to be the top

1012
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 1: echelon in the direction here he had. I I don't

1013
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 1: see any reason world why you can't be wearing the

1014
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:39,879
Speaker 1: UFC belt, for example, just a couple of a couple

1015
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:43,320
Speaker 1: of adjustments, because what you do is all good, you know.

1016
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you do a lot of good stuff, and

1017
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 1: your attitude is superior by far. There are a lot

1018
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 1: of guys that get it on Tim Kennedy, he's too

1019
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 1: much for momentum. You know, he's pushing his punches and

1020
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 1: I said that before the fight, remember, and uh so

1021
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: it gets you in trouble sometimes, but he's a very

1022
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 1: strong wrestler, so he falls back. Well, if I pushed

1023
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: his punch, getting a clinch, get you on the ground,

1024
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 1: most likely I'll win that that heavy muscle masks and

1025
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 1: Paris got a lot of that too. Over three rounds.

1026
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:13,800
Speaker 1: It's gonna could come back and haunt you. You know,

1027
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 1: you know, Liz very lean and can last a lot longer.

1028
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 1: Her mind and chemistry doesn't work the same. From what

1029
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 1: I can tell watching you, Liz, it's you just you

1030
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 1: just got one gear and it's wide open, so you

1031
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 1: know you can you can use that in a lot

1032
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: of positive ways. And you already are. So that's awesome.

1033
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 1: When we do like our spring practice, everybody else needs

1034
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 1: to take like take a round off, take a rest.

1035
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,839
Speaker 1: Greed I go for the entire hour, and I always say,

1036
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 1: come on, let's go. No no, no, no breaks. I

1037
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 1: don't believe it breaks. This is go. This is why

1038
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 1: we're here to work. Absolutely. Yeah, tap people out, sit

1039
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 1: in a fresh opponent. You do all that too, right,

1040
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 1: Just so, I did some mad math many years ago.

1041
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 1: I trained a couple of guys back when U Joe

1042
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: Silver used to be the photographer for the UFC, and

1043
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 1: they could still knee to the head and the head.

1044
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 1: But you know, one of my guys fought Randy Cootour.

1045
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 1: But both of my guys I put in the UFC.

1046
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 1: Both of them beat world champions or whatever it was

1047
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 1: they did. Uh And neither one of them had any

1048
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 1: martial arts experience a year before that. Uh, So they

1049
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 1: were there pure bred athletes, and they are very strong guys.

1050
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 1: And you know what I did some mad math and

1051
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 1: without getting into how it all works, but if you

1052
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 1: want to fight three or five five minute rounds successfully,

1053
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:33,240
Speaker 1: I'll do three or five seven teen minute rounds, rotating

1054
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: partners and every time somebody taps, you got another one.

1055
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 1: You know, there's no rest. But my formula for that

1056
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 1: success to be able to push the end of that round,

1057
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 1: you know, start hard and finished hearts and philosophy is

1058
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 1: my mad math came up with seventeen minute rounds. So

1059
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 1: if you're just having fun on a boring day, get

1060
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 1: out there and try three seventeen minute rounds and see

1061
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 1: how you feel. At the end of the day. We

1062
00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 1: college start team and so you have all your sharks

1063
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 1: in the side. The guppies are the fighters are getting

1064
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:04,840
Speaker 1: ready for fights and fight camp and you get you

1065
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 1: go for the either thirty minutes NonStop and they just

1066
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 1: rotate out. If you tap somebody out and knock somebody out,

1067
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:14,399
Speaker 1: we just keep on going. Guppies stay. They don't get

1068
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: to be fresh at all. They see in the entire

1069
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 1: time the charksis keep rotating out. Yeah, now that that's

1070
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 1: exactly the right philosophy for sure. This for the for

1071
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,799
Speaker 1: the actual fight itself, the fighters for whatever reason, there's

1072
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 1: seventeen minutes equates to time in the ring and how

1073
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 1: you push yourself. It's a kind of a musical rhythm,

1074
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:34,800
Speaker 1: you know with the christiend those the highs, the lows,

1075
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: giving some up pushing at times. You know. So it's

1076
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: it's really interesting. Yeah, but you're doing the right stuff

1077
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: there for sure. Thirty minutes a long long ride. Oh yeah, Hey, Liz,

1078
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 1: So I'm wondering what your reaction has been to you know,

1079
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 1: what happened to Rhonda Rousey. As I mentioned earlier For

1080
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 1: those who don't know, Liz was in the first ever

1081
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 1: women's UFC fight against Rhonda Rousey. It looks like her

1082
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 1: fight career has ended, and you know, you're still here

1083
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:07,320
Speaker 1: doing your thing. Uh what do you think about just

1084
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:11,240
Speaker 1: you know, her experience of of losing those two fights

1085
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 1: and deciding not to come back. It looks like, uh,

1086
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 1: it was much anticipated. Honestly, Um, it's fighting is all

1087
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 1: about her mentality, it's psychology. I can watch a watch

1088
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 1: a fighter who has no skill set, no cardio, no

1089
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 1: work ethic, but they believe they're the absolute best in

1090
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 1: the entire world, and they go out and beat somebody

1091
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 1: who trained their butt off to get in that fight

1092
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 1: and has every tool available, which is because they believe it.

1093
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 1: It comes into fruition in the same sense with Rhonda, mentally,

1094
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 1: she had prepared herself to take the belt and retire undefeated,

1095
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 1: and the moment that that became challenged, she wasn't mentally

1096
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 1: prepared to overcome that. She wasn't the type of fighter

1097
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 1: that saw those weaknesses and wanted to push to be

1098
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 1: stronger in those areas and says she only focused on

1099
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:04,760
Speaker 1: her strengths and mentally just wasn't prepared to be defeated anyway.

1100
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 1: And once that happened, she broke down. For other fighters, Yeah,

1101
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 1: you have to lose. You have to lose because you

1102
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 1: want and you hunger so much more for the win.

1103
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 1: You work that much harder. Like if I make a mistake,

1104
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:19,359
Speaker 1: then I'll go, Okay, I'm never making a mistake again.

1105
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:21,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna fix that and be better than I was before.

1106
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 1: Some fighters think that way. Other fighters go, well, I

1107
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 1: don't want to experience that again. I'm just gonna avoid that.

1108
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 1: And you can't do that, not in m a And

1109
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 1: I think for her, I knew it from the beginning,

1110
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 1: so it really doesn't come as a surprise to me.

1111
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 1: I'm actually surprised she took two losses before she retired. Yeah,

1112
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 1: do do you think the issue is the fact that

1113
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 1: you know she she's making all this money now, she

1114
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 1: doesn't need to do this any longer. But you do

1115
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 1: wonder because she could still be a competitive fighter, and

1116
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 1: she could still be doing what you're doing. You know what,

1117
00:56:58,200 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think she ever will could always

1118
00:56:59,960 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 1: have doubt in her mind. Um. I mean even before

1119
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 1: her last fight, she said I wanted to take a break,

1120
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 1: and she never said that before that that statement alone

1121
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 1: is different than you've ever heard her. She already had

1122
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 1: that doubt in her mind. So I don't think she

1123
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 1: could ever go in there because she's always in a

1124
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 1: question herself and her abilities, and she's not just like

1125
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 1: I would never want to fight a little local show.

1126
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 1: Once you fought it the best, you want to maintain that.

1127
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 1: There's a standard that you hold yourself to and you

1128
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 1: constantly want to strive for that. And yeah, money is

1129
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 1: is absolutely good, good excuse. She's made tons of money.

1130
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 1: She's set for life. She never has to worry about

1131
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 1: money again. Um, And she proved what her skill and

1132
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 1: what her abilities were as a fighter, so she doesn't

1133
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 1: to prove anything to anybody either. Man, I don't disagree.

1134
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 1: I don't think she remembered the first loss. That's probably

1135
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 1: why I took two, you know, but you know, if

1136
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 1: you get knocked out, you have no memory of that

1137
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 1: at all. Typically, I wonder what the future of UFC is,

1138
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 1: you know, because a lot of the superstars are down.

1139
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 1: You know, Rhonda Rousey was known as a superstar. Connor McGregor,

1140
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 1: will we see him fight again? Jon Jones, the whole

1141
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 1: steroid issue. You know. I know GESP is back and

1142
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 1: and he's a superstar. But I've been kind of debating

1143
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 1: this with friends of mine. If you're a younger kid

1144
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 1: who's maybe eighteen years old and you just got into

1145
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 1: this UFC thing, you're not really familiar with his history.

1146
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 1: So it's it's kind of interesting how a lot of

1147
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 1: these superstars are are not gonna be fighting for a while. Yeah.

1148
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 1: But in the same sense, Um, the advantage that we

1149
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 1: have is particularly with the UFC, is through social media,

1150
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 1: they make all the fighters tangible, and especially with the females,

1151
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 1: the female fighters. It's wide open. You know, if you

1152
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 1: there's no cap to where you guys can end up

1153
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 1: this day. Yeah, as far as superstars, I think one

1154
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 1: thing we always learned is anybody can can replace you

1155
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 1: when it comes to fighting, when it comes to movies, anything,

1156
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 1: you're replaceable. Somebody gonna step up and take your place.

1157
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 1: So you can either grow with it or false of

1158
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 1: the wayside, let yourself just be a memory. And so

1159
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 1: there's always gonna be a superstar that's gonna rise up.

1160
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 1: This gonna takes their take their place and stap up

1161
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 1: to be that new superstar. It's funny. I've trained a

1162
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 1: lot of fighters through the years, and one of the

1163
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 1: more recent ones has unlimited potential. But she got married

1164
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 1: at nineteen, so she's on her break. But at at

1165
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 1: five one d fourteen pounds, she's one of the fastest

1166
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 1: runners on the planet. Uh. She she can dad lift

1167
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 1: six pounds and she's insanely physically fit. But you gotta

1168
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 1: get the mind fit with it right if that's what

1169
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 1: you want to do. And she had a bad day

1170
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 1: in the gym one time and got a little frustrated

1171
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 1: and threw her gloves down and waits down whatever, And

1172
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 1: I said, listen, you gotta you gotta think about it

1173
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 1: like this to your point, Liz, I said, And almost

1174
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 1: virtually every city in the country and around the world.

1175
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 1: I mean, you've seen that little nine year old girl

1176
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 1: boxing from in Russia hitting trees and stuff. I said,

1177
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 1: there's somebody out there training right now to beat here.

1178
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 1: I mean six years old, eight years old, twelve years old.

1179
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 1: I said, And you're gonna make your day view one day.

1180
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 1: And the day your first day you walk out of

1181
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 1: the door and into the ring, there's some little kids

1182
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 1: sitting on your front porch just waiting on you. So

1183
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 1: exactly to your point. You can get replaced pretty quick,

1184
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 1: you know. And so you know that's one of the

1185
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 1: things in my quick study of you is your crazy drive.

1186
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 1: And I don't know that's gotta have some it's all you,

1187
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 1: But the Marine Corps had to had to stick some

1188
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 1: of that in there too, because you know, Paris Island

1189
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 1: is no joke, right, you can't. I cannot quit there. Yeah,

1190
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 1: I don't know where it came from, honestly, something I've

1191
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 1: talked about with my mom because always growing up, if

1192
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 1: I played soccer and I played goal and I'm like, yeah,

1193
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 1: we lost him. I was like, yeah, you just made

1194
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 1: a record by defending sixty goals and only five five

1195
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 1: win in five we lost five reals. Work. It's just like,

1196
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 1: are you listening to yourself? And I'd always come out

1197
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:15,400
Speaker 1: of their beating myself up, and then of course some

1198
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 1: Marine Corps just caveat off that so much that it

1199
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 1: carried over in a maze. So whatever she raised and

1200
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 1: instilled in me was always to just be the best

1201
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 1: I could possibly be. And there is no such thing

1202
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 1: as it can't philosophy. The only person that can tell

1203
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 1: yourself can in life is yourself. If you set your

1204
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 1: mind and your dreams on something it's tangible, it's gonna

1205
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 1: be difficult, absolutely, but anything is possible as long as

1206
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 1: you give everything you have onto it. And that's always

1207
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 1: been instilled to me. And then you top the Marine

1208
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 1: Corps on top of that. That's no, that's also true. Um,

1209
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 1: going back to what I was saying about Superstars, and

1210
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 1: I'd kind of like to hear your feeling on this.

1211
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 1: I love the UFC as an organization and everything, but

1212
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 1: the one thing that does kind of bother me, and

1213
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:00,920
Speaker 1: I think we've talked about this probably before him. Uh

1214
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 1: is the fact that what makes someone a superstar nowadays

1215
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:08,440
Speaker 1: is not necessarily the caliber fighter. It's how great of

1216
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 1: a ship talker you are and all that. Like, I

1217
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 1: can tell you the most exciting fight that I saw

1218
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 1: of last year was du Hoo Choi and Cub Swanson

1219
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 1: and to me, do Ho Choi, that guy should absolutely

1220
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 1: be a superstar. And I think what holds him back

1221
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 1: is he doesn't speak English, so he can't, you know,

1222
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 1: give this like great interview that people want to see,

1223
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 1: and to me is just a fight fan. I don't

1224
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 1: really care. He's exciting to watch, Yeah, And I absolutely

1225
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 1: agree with that. I think that there are definitely some

1226
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 1: fighters that are up there where I watched them get

1227
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 1: signed to an organization and for what Like I look

1228
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 1: at their videos like they're not good at all. There's

1229
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:44,800
Speaker 1: still so much for them to achieve, then the work

1230
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:48,760
Speaker 1: ethic to get there anyway, but do so good it

1231
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 1: pitching themselves on social media and broadcasting themselves out there

1232
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 1: on any platform possible, and as a result they reach stardom,

1233
01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 1: but not because of their skill set as a fighter,

1234
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 1: but because they really know how to run their mouths

1235
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 1: and unfortunately that is true, and I'm in my five

1236
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 1: cur itself is evidence of that. I focus more on

1237
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 1: my my job and I focus more on training than

1238
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 1: I ever do on on social media. I mean half

1239
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 1: the time, my fiance and I will go do great stuff.

1240
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:17,120
Speaker 1: We come back for that. She's like, hey do you

1241
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 1: take pictures and video? And I'm like, she's like, what

1242
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:24,959
Speaker 1: do we talk about? I'm like, Oh'm storry. It wasn't

1243
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 1: enjoying the day. It never occurs to me at the

1244
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 1: point and be like, hey, let me stop and record

1245
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:35,800
Speaker 1: this and and that's just not me. And I like

1246
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 1: Partner of Lima. She is so good and putting making

1247
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 1: herself available to all the fans, and so not only

1248
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 1: does she have the skill set, but she also knows

1249
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 1: how to how to broadcast herself on all these platforms.

1250
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 1: Her career is just skyrocketing. And I watched her. I'm like, yeah,

1251
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 1: I wish I could do that. I just not good

1252
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 1: at it. All you gotta do is just call somebody

1253
01:03:57,040 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 1: out once in a while. Because your actual SPA was like,

1254
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 1: if you put yourself out there, if you talk, do

1255
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 1: all this trash talking, and you better actions better always

1256
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 1: back up your words, and a people mistake could happen

1257
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 1: and you could have the best fight camp ever. You

1258
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 1: go into the cage, there's a little bit of water

1259
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 1: on the mat, you don't know, you slip and get caught,

1260
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:22,480
Speaker 1: and all that trash talking just came back and bits

1261
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 1: you right in the butt. So I'm never that person

1262
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 1: because I can always look at any mistake can happen.

1263
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 1: It's life and it's fighting I could have. I could

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Speaker 1: go in in there and just have an off day

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Speaker 1: and just not show up that day and the best

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01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:36,920
Speaker 1: representation of them shows up and I lose that fight,

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01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 1: or it could be the best performance I've ever had.

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01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 1: Anything could happen, But for me, it's trash talking. This

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01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 1: isn't an option because I feel like it just it

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01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 1: comes back to get you. Everybody wants to see you fail,

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01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:51,440
Speaker 1: and when you do, they're they're just helping cover you up.

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Speaker 1: So so that's not always true. List, there's two kinds

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01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 1: of failing in the ring. You know, if you lose,

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01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 1: you lose, right, But some people losing the I'm glady law,

1275
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 1: he should have lost, he didn't fight, he's pussy whatever, right,

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01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 1: But then some people lose, they go down fighting and

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01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 1: if you know, to the very bitter end, I mean,

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01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:13,440
Speaker 1: even even Perryman, I'm really disappointed because when he when

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01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 1: he ended that fight, he just toweling, he gave up.

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01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:19,200
Speaker 1: I lost respect. And I know he's a badass guy,

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01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 1: and but the way he ended it wasn't good. You know,

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01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:25,080
Speaker 1: in my opinion, the way you end them is in

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01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 1: in a flame. And so you're you're in a position

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01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 1: wind lose a draw that you could actually call people

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01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 1: out sometime because there's no there's no quit in you

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01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 1: that I could I found on the Internet yet or

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01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:39,080
Speaker 1: anywhere else. And I can listen to your spirit right

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01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 1: here now. And I've I've I've been around people like

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01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 1: you my entire life. I'm not saying there's been a

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01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 1: lot of them, because I don't hang around a lot

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01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:50,800
Speaker 1: of people, but I hang around people that are not

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01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 1: afraid to lose or wind, you know. And and and

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01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 1: that's one of the things I think in my mind

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01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:58,919
Speaker 1: that separates you. It's you know, it's like, yeah, I lost,

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01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 1: but they scored five points. You know, you just you

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01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 1: kind of go off on a tangent because losing is

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01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 1: not an option in a way that you were brought

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01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:09,840
Speaker 1: up in my opinion only because I don't know you,

1299
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:12,760
Speaker 1: but I can tell that when you lose, you don't

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01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:16,160
Speaker 1: lose fans, you know what I mean. And and and

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01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 1: that gives you a different platform to be able to

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01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 1: promote yourself because you don't go down and quit, you know,

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01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 1: so even on a bad day, you know, and I

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01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 1: think I think you might be, you know, right on

1305
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:34,920
Speaker 1: the edge of a different level of social media success

1306
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:38,760
Speaker 1: to just really catch on fire, you know, take everything

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01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 1: that you built, everything you've done, and then just call

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01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:43,800
Speaker 1: out a couple of people, not not like how I

1309
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:45,120
Speaker 1: want to fight you. I want to fight you, but

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01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 1: if you think they're weak or strong in a specific area,

1311
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 1: to say, look if I beat them, this is why

1312
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:52,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna beat the you know what I mean, because

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01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:54,640
Speaker 1: they're weak in this area, this or that. You know,

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01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:58,280
Speaker 1: people he listen to you because one, you're so rounded,

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01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 1: you know, you have tons of skill, and not just one,

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01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 1: you know, like Mu Tai or Rafflin. I mean you've

1317
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 1: got the whole, you know, Arsenal, your toolbox is full,

1318
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:11,640
Speaker 1: you know, so you had you've learned the right to

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01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:14,400
Speaker 1: call people out and take that next step. You know,

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01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 1: it's just my opinion, that's all. Yeah. The best example

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01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 1: of that was Nate d As, of course. I mean

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01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 1: I feel like he was, uh, there was some obscurity

1323
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:27,440
Speaker 1: there for a little bit, and then when he finally

1324
01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:32,919
Speaker 1: took on Connor McGregor and he put on a show. Yeah. Yeah.

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01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 1: And there are people like like Nick and Nate who

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01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 1: are able to do that trash talking and Connor and

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01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:39,960
Speaker 1: and just like that. People tune in because they want

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01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 1: to see, like he did all that trash talking to

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01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:44,280
Speaker 1: back it up, and and that's what brings in a

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01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 1: lot of publicity for fights. And I respect that because

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01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:50,240
Speaker 1: without that we wouldn't I don't imagine that we would

1332
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 1: actually have as many fans tune in for the UFC

1333
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:55,800
Speaker 1: if not for some of the trash talking has occurred

1334
01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 1: by some of these fighters, because you get so invested

1335
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 1: in this scene what's going to happen, and excited about

1336
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 1: everything that they're gonna say that she tuned and watch it.

1337
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:04,760
Speaker 1: You want to see them, You want to see the

1338
01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 1: succeed or Phil or just see what's going to happen

1339
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:10,040
Speaker 1: in the collision between the fighters. And that that's sound

1340
01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:13,200
Speaker 1: great for the squord acts, that soap opera element say,

1341
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 1: one of the beauties of being old is I was

1342
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:17,760
Speaker 1: back in the Muhammad Ali days. You know, float like

1343
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:20,240
Speaker 1: a butterfly's thing, like he would call it around it.

1344
01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:24,000
Speaker 1: He would knock somebody out here, and he really started

1345
01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 1: this whole tring. He revolutionized, you know, fighting in social

1346
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:30,400
Speaker 1: media and it paid off really well for him. You know,

1347
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 1: he was very controversy controversy sales. Don't you agree, Liz?

1348
01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:40,600
Speaker 1: I absolutely agree, so big controversial. So what is it

1349
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:44,160
Speaker 1: that you're currently working on and and any you know

1350
01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:45,760
Speaker 1: idea of when we're going to see you in the

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01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 1: cage next. I'm ready to go back in. I was

1352
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:54,240
Speaker 1: came back from the fight on skie that I have

1353
01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 1: scratched on my chin from head pressure. It's about it. Uh.

1354
01:08:57,960 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 1: And and me, I'm always ready to go. I mean

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01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:01,240
Speaker 1: Monday morning, I like, hey, I'm ready back train, Like no,

1356
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:05,559
Speaker 1: go take a day off, go show like alright, fine,

1357
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:07,760
Speaker 1: because I can relax and then here I am again

1358
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:10,720
Speaker 1: Like well, I mean I can can sneak off to

1359
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:15,479
Speaker 1: the y and they'll never know that I just sat there, right, Uh.

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01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:18,240
Speaker 1: I mean just for me, whenever I win or lose,

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01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:22,479
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, um, because I'm assessing what I did

1362
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:24,519
Speaker 1: correctly when I did incorrectly in the fight. And I

1363
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 1: want to improve. I want to be the best fighter

1364
01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:28,840
Speaker 1: I can be. I saw a lot of improvements from

1365
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:30,720
Speaker 1: not only the last fight, but the last time I

1366
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 1: faced Selexus to this one whole different fighter, and I

1367
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:35,680
Speaker 1: just want to keep showing that that's who I am,

1368
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:38,960
Speaker 1: is an evolving fighter that's gonna keep growing and just

1369
01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:41,600
Speaker 1: keep showing everybody what I have available to me and

1370
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 1: what I can do as a fighter. So the moment

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01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:45,439
Speaker 1: I can get back in there, I'm ready to go.

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01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:48,000
Speaker 1: I'm ready to go for that belt and hold that

1373
01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:53,680
Speaker 1: for sure. But yeah, well, don't mean interrupt. I'm apologize

1374
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 1: for that. But when I when I charted your stuff,

1375
01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 1: you can see the progression and how much better you're

1376
01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:02,599
Speaker 1: getting fi to fight to fight, you know, And uh,

1377
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:06,760
Speaker 1: everything you said is exactly the way I viewed it

1378
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:10,240
Speaker 1: when I charted you. If you had to fight hypothetically

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01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:14,120
Speaker 1: Alex again, what what what would you do different? Uh,

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01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:16,200
Speaker 1: There's a few things I would do differently. Um. I

1381
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:18,559
Speaker 1: think that I didn't push the temple quite as well

1382
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 1: as I should have. I think at one point, I,

1383
01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:23,160
Speaker 1: without a doubt, had her. She was rocked. I had

1384
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:24,800
Speaker 1: her on the cage. I thought she was gonna hold me.

1385
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 1: I should have backed off, reassessed, and then continue to

1386
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 1: do the flurry punches and just knocked her out. Um.

1387
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:33,559
Speaker 1: But of course, hindsight you can always realize the mistakes

1388
01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:36,320
Speaker 1: that you mean. Um, but being able to take advantage

1389
01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 1: of that and recognize that there's a time and a

1390
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 1: place I saw blood and I was going for it.

1391
01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 1: I just did incorrectly on how to pursue it, so

1392
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:47,760
Speaker 1: that I would do differently. Um. Two is I would

1393
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:50,080
Speaker 1: I would push more with the black belts that we have.

1394
01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I worked with you Giovanni Martinez, who's on

1395
01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 1: He's a black belt under tenth Planet and he holds

1396
01:10:57,280 --> 01:11:00,720
Speaker 1: the belt for e b I, And every chance that

1397
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:02,680
Speaker 1: I've had to work with him, I feel like he's

1398
01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 1: improved my games so much and he seemed more insight.

1399
01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:06,800
Speaker 1: So one thing I do is to take advantage of

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01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:09,000
Speaker 1: him more and use it because I feel like he

1401
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:12,280
Speaker 1: helped me to succeed on where I did on the ground.

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01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:15,680
Speaker 1: They're definitely mistakes that I made, of course, but in

1403
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:19,200
Speaker 1: the past where I was at, I never would have done.

1404
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:21,240
Speaker 1: I never would have come out of that fight against

1405
01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:23,560
Speaker 1: the black belt not getting chopped out, and I was

1406
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:26,760
Speaker 1: able to hold my grounds and tried something on her,

1407
01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:28,800
Speaker 1: was able to defend stuff from her. And that's a

1408
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:31,040
Speaker 1: huge improvement that I want to capitalize more that I

1409
01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 1: know will help me out and just pushing more on

1410
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:35,559
Speaker 1: my on my stands up to be more aggressive towards

1411
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:38,400
Speaker 1: her for that. So, speaking of stand up, one of

1412
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 1: the things lately, I mean, I've watched the entire evolution

1413
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:44,920
Speaker 1: of the UFC, and you know, the stand up game

1414
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:47,560
Speaker 1: has become you know, more and more prevalent, with a

1415
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:50,880
Speaker 1: lot of more knockouts and and you know, just people

1416
01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:56,680
Speaker 1: just getting beat down with really good takedown defenses. How

1417
01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:58,519
Speaker 1: do you view your stand up against her? Would you

1418
01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:04,720
Speaker 1: do anything different? Laer? I'm just curious because I think

1419
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:08,000
Speaker 1: to throw more in combinations. When I was throwing and

1420
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:10,000
Speaker 1: stand up by the succeeding and I was doing really well,

1421
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:13,040
Speaker 1: I mean, she really only connected about two punches and

1422
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:15,160
Speaker 1: that was just kind of like a learning Okay, let

1423
01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:16,760
Speaker 1: me wake up a little bit. You hit me. Cool,

1424
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:20,400
Speaker 1: Now I can actually throw. And once I woke up

1425
01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:22,439
Speaker 1: and I was like, all right, now I'm seeing everything

1426
01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:25,679
Speaker 1: and getting a better perspective and watching the whole movement

1427
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:27,920
Speaker 1: of what she's doing where we're at in the cage,

1428
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:29,599
Speaker 1: and I was able to take advantage of that more.

1429
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:31,680
Speaker 1: I just changed to be more aggressive with it and

1430
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:35,160
Speaker 1: throw more combinations and changing levels and more kicks. Um

1431
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:38,760
Speaker 1: use my clunch work, which I love throwing. I love

1432
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:40,519
Speaker 1: using the clinch, and I have a really strong clinch.

1433
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:41,760
Speaker 1: I should have used it more in that fight and

1434
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:44,920
Speaker 1: I didn't, so definitely in differently, So, do you find

1435
01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:48,559
Speaker 1: any advantage to be in a south your South pa right? Both,

1436
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:53,720
Speaker 1: I'm ambidextrous. Okay, that's interesting. Which do you prefer? My

1437
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:58,080
Speaker 1: son was ambidexterous? Um? You know, it really depends. I

1438
01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:01,840
Speaker 1: feel like as a south paw my defensive capabilities to

1439
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 1: sell Paul my movement. I can read the opponent better

1440
01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:07,120
Speaker 1: and defend better. But I definitely feel like I have

1441
01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:10,080
Speaker 1: a lot more power in my right hand if I'm

1442
01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:11,760
Speaker 1: standing standard. So if I want to go for that

1443
01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:14,640
Speaker 1: finishing knockout, I'll probably be standard. But to set it up,

1444
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:18,080
Speaker 1: saw Paul works really well for me. Nice awesome. Hey,

1445
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:20,320
Speaker 1: So last thing before we go, you were mentioning you

1446
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:23,840
Speaker 1: know your work with Eddie Bravo and his popularity through

1447
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:27,440
Speaker 1: Joe Rogan. Have you have you ever been on Rogan's podcast?

1448
01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:30,840
Speaker 1: You know, I thought I had and we were It

1449
01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:33,720
Speaker 1: was actually talking with with Gabe Tuttle, he's one of

1450
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:36,519
Speaker 1: my main training partners as well, and we're discussing. I'm like,

1451
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:38,160
Speaker 1: I swear I've been on the podcast. He's like, look,

1452
01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:40,559
Speaker 1: I'm not to be a creeper. But he's like, I've

1453
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:44,479
Speaker 1: watched every podcast. It's like, we're not creeping on me.

1454
01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:47,160
Speaker 1: So that's cool. He's like, and I don't recall that.

1455
01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:49,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I'll take your word for it. So

1456
01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:51,240
Speaker 1: I thought I had, but I guess not. I feel

1457
01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:53,439
Speaker 1: like I'm sitting down for you know, an hour or

1458
01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 1: two with Joe Rogan would not be a forgettable experience,

1459
01:13:56,280 --> 01:13:58,800
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, And I think it's just that I've

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01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:02,280
Speaker 1: I've been around so often in in the in my

1461
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:04,680
Speaker 1: fight life that I guess, and we've I've talked to

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01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 1: him outside of fighting. I guess I just assumed I've

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01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:09,240
Speaker 1: been on his podcast. I haven't yet. He's got to

1464
01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:11,160
Speaker 1: get you on, I mean, especially with you both being

1465
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:14,160
Speaker 1: in California, it's such a big draw and and everybody

1466
01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:17,559
Speaker 1: loves Rogan's podcast, so that would be cool to hear. Oh,

1467
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:19,880
Speaker 1: I agree, I think they'd be a blast. Well, it's

1468
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:22,320
Speaker 1: been a blast having you on here, and hopefully we'll

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01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 1: do it again soon. Um you could follow Liz on

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01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 1: Twitter and Instagram at I Am Girl Rilla uh and

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Speaker 1: anything else that you're promoting before we let you go.

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Speaker 1: Uh No, no, I hopefully might be having another location

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01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:39,400
Speaker 1: opening up for tent Planet. Uh. Keep your fingers crossed

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01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:42,360
Speaker 1: on that one right now. It's the success of our

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01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:44,840
Speaker 1: ocean side location or Mission Abode location. They're doing really

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01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:49,280
Speaker 1: well and so many great fighters are coming up, Competitors

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01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:50,800
Speaker 1: are coming up that are pushing all of us to

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01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:54,000
Speaker 1: new levels. And from what I see, you're very accessible

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Speaker 1: on social media, so if anybody is interested, that's really

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01:14:57,120 --> 01:14:59,800
Speaker 1: the place to go. I should also think Marissa from

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01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:03,040
Speaker 1: rious ex Them for Sharing was his contact. This has

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01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 1: been This has been a great interview and we look

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01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:08,120
Speaker 1: forward to it and doing it again. So, Liz, when

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01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:11,800
Speaker 1: is the book coming out? You know, we were talking

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01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:14,640
Speaker 1: about that my fails and are talking about doing possibilities

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01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:16,920
Speaker 1: of a book. Um. Wants to have a little bit

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01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:20,720
Speaker 1: more free time and I can actually sit still then

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01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:22,920
Speaker 1: then we'll be in the works of that. So so

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01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:26,920
Speaker 1: I asked specifically because you you bridge a couple of

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01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:30,400
Speaker 1: different worlds, and being a former marine and combat veteran,

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01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:34,120
Speaker 1: you know a lot of what you do and I

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01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:36,760
Speaker 1: kind of do it myself. Yeah, it's just helping the

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01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:40,040
Speaker 1: uh you know, things, things that will inspire the veterans,

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01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:44,200
Speaker 1: you know, the combat vets. No, absolutely, and I think that. Uh.

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01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:47,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I think anybody that's ever served has a

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01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:50,519
Speaker 1: soft spot in hurt for vets and and certainly I've

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01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:53,479
Speaker 1: lost friends that either we're in or got out and

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01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:56,840
Speaker 1: just it wasn't working when they got out. So I

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01:15:57,000 --> 01:16:00,639
Speaker 1: definitely want to help vests as much as possible. Yeah,

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01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:04,320
Speaker 1: that's nice. Uh, same here, Maybe we can collaborate on

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01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:06,120
Speaker 1: something one of these days. I do a lot of

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01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:11,479
Speaker 1: stuff behind the scenes. Oh. Absolutely appreciate it. Thank you, Liz,

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01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Yeah, that was great having Liz

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01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:18,040
Speaker 1: car mouch on for the first time. U. Like I said,

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01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:21,280
Speaker 1: I interviewed her. I think it. It may have been

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01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago at this point, but it

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01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:25,519
Speaker 1: was a really quick one. So it was cool to

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01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:28,080
Speaker 1: have her more thorough. I mean, she went over forty

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01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:30,400
Speaker 1: five minutes with us, and uh had a lot to

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01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:33,200
Speaker 1: say and hope to see her fight again soon. Yeah,

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01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:36,080
Speaker 1: I think she's got a lot to bring to the table,

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01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:39,360
Speaker 1: just you know, after speaking to her, actually physically seeing

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01:16:39,439 --> 01:16:43,360
Speaker 1: her energy levels off the Richter scale. She actually reminds

1514
01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:45,720
Speaker 1: me of the one I used I used to train

1515
01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:49,160
Speaker 1: and sometimes do which older though, because that girl is

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01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:52,320
Speaker 1: pretty young, Liz. It was like thirty three, right, and

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01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:55,160
Speaker 1: and in my mind, she's in her prime, so there's

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01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 1: nothing holding her back unless it's her you know, you

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01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:02,080
Speaker 1: think you could be in your prime the thirty three, Yeah,

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01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:06,200
Speaker 1: I think about thirty six and thirty eight anymore. Some

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01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:08,560
Speaker 1: of the guys are pushing over forty. I think that

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01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 1: may be a little bit of a too much of

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01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:13,920
Speaker 1: a push, you know. But uh, I think up until

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01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:17,840
Speaker 1: thirty six you're peeking. I just personally, Yeah, you just

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01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:21,800
Speaker 1: gotta stay on it, and clearly she does. Uh yeah.

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01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:23,280
Speaker 1: But there are a few things, you know, that I'd

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01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:26,639
Speaker 1: like to dig deeper into with her, not her training style,

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01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:29,320
Speaker 1: but just on the strategy and you know, the South

1529
01:17:29,400 --> 01:17:33,479
Speaker 1: call orthodox fighter, how you align yourself to your opponent,

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01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:37,439
Speaker 1: constant ford pressure, just some fight principles. I think would

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01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:42,799
Speaker 1: make a difference, and uh, probably probably. Uh, I'm definitely

1532
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:45,519
Speaker 1: interested because she's a she's a full spectrum, you know,

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01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:50,280
Speaker 1: fighter and obviously knows a lot. Yeah, she's definitely doing

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01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:52,960
Speaker 1: the right thing in terms of her career. When you're

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01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:56,320
Speaker 1: talking about uh, you know, five years down the line

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01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:58,800
Speaker 1: where she probably won't be in the cage anymore. I mean,

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01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:00,920
Speaker 1: you never know she might will be, but to be

1538
01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:04,680
Speaker 1: involved with all these martial arts training schools, that's really

1539
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:06,840
Speaker 1: the way to go because you could be training people

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01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:10,280
Speaker 1: to fight at your age at sixty something. Yeah. Well,

1541
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:13,000
Speaker 1: I think the name change, if it is a huge

1542
01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:16,080
Speaker 1: difference and how many people you can attract, you know,

1543
01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:21,120
Speaker 1: when you talk about combat, karate, verse, anything else. It

1544
01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:23,680
Speaker 1: automatically opens the door for more people to come through

1545
01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:26,200
Speaker 1: your doors. If it could become a national gym chain

1546
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:29,760
Speaker 1: one day, and that never does bad. Yeah, I mean

1547
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:32,519
Speaker 1: I go to a UFC gym and and that was

1548
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:36,080
Speaker 1: it's a relatively new franchise doing amazing. And I don't

1549
01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:39,840
Speaker 1: even do M M A and just go to workout. Yeah. Yeah, No,

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01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:43,760
Speaker 1: I think she's she's a I don't see anything holding

1551
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:46,400
Speaker 1: her back except for I think it would be good

1552
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:47,920
Speaker 1: to watch her get up there and call a few

1553
01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:51,519
Speaker 1: people down like what we discussed. But I see what

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01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:53,360
Speaker 1: she was saying because I don't think it's in her

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01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:58,000
Speaker 1: personality type. Yeah, but she's such a badass and being

1556
01:18:58,040 --> 01:19:01,800
Speaker 1: a formal marine. Yeah, I think just everybody would wake

1557
01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:03,400
Speaker 1: up and go, oh, what the hell? I thought she

1558
01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:07,280
Speaker 1: was just a nice girl. Have you ever heard Eddie Bravo,

1559
01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:10,200
Speaker 1: who owns that tenth plane at jiu Jitsu? Yeah, I know,

1560
01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:12,280
Speaker 1: I know who he is. I've never met him, because

1561
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:17,680
Speaker 1: he really is like the biggest conspiracy theorists. He's been

1562
01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:20,599
Speaker 1: on Rogan. He like he's one of those people where

1563
01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:23,640
Speaker 1: nothing went down the way that the government says it

1564
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:26,680
Speaker 1: goes down. Actually, one of my friends, uh who's a

1565
01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:30,600
Speaker 1: mixed Martials, sent me one of the radio clips or

1566
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:32,880
Speaker 1: whatever you other podcast. They said, Jim, you gotta hear

1567
01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:37,200
Speaker 1: this because you know, we have our conversations about conspiracy,

1568
01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:41,240
Speaker 1: you know, like example, I'd be curious to what he

1569
01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:45,960
Speaker 1: thinks about this, uh Senator congressman from Chicago last week

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01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:50,560
Speaker 1: that's inviting the United Nations into Chicago. Yeah, that's a

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01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:52,840
Speaker 1: hell of a conspiracy. But I'm sure he'd have something,

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01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:58,840
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, may not be that crazy. He's he's

1573
01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:01,559
Speaker 1: out there guy. It'd be interesting to have one here

1574
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Speaker 1: at sometimes. I remember I had Jack listen to the

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Speaker 1: podcast at episode nine eleven because I remember it was

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Speaker 1: nine eleven of Alex Jones and Show Rogan with Eddie

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Speaker 1: Bravo and and and Jack Murkey was like, the skuy

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Speaker 1: Eddie Ravo sounds absolutely fucking insane. Probably great at m

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Speaker 1: m A though. Yeah you gotta believe well, you know what,

1580
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Speaker 1: As long as you believe, man, it's okay. Yeah, alright,

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Speaker 1: and I believe that we're doing something in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 1: we'll get the word out. And you know you're talking

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Speaker 1: to Liz about getting a book out. We gotta get

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Speaker 1: your book out. I just started working on it again.

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Speaker 1: Though I thought it was done, it's it's then, except

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Speaker 1: for the timelines and a little bit of dressing. But

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Speaker 1: I just started going chapter by chapter. So I just

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Speaker 1: it's ever. It's my life every time I thing out.

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Speaker 1: Damn it, I am. I promised, um all you want

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Speaker 1: to throw out your website and all that before we

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Speaker 1: of the things I'm planning to do, hopefully and then

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Speaker 1: by the end of the second quarter is UH to

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Speaker 1: start doing webinars once a week, once a month. I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure how that's gonna work out yet. But actually,

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Speaker 1: And because it's really enjoyable. Feedback was really the best

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Speaker 1: I've ever had. And we're already starting to follow up

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Speaker 1: know our soft Rep no and uh, we can work

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