1 00:00:01,820 --> 00:00:04,590 Speaker 1: Hey Discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life? 2 00:00:05,070 --> 00:00:08,050 Speaker 1: Just a touch to get you through? Yeah, me too. 3 00:00:08,780 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 1: This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:32,110 Speaker 1: to Disgraceland, the after party. Do people actually believe that 5 00:00:32,370 --> 00:00:36,620 Speaker 1: Courtney Love killed Kurt Cobain or did they just hate 6 00:00:36,700 --> 00:00:40,900 Speaker 1: Courtney Love so much that they cannot accept the fact 7 00:00:41,100 --> 00:00:46,300 Speaker 1: that Kurt killed himself? Um, I've asked this question a 8 00:00:47,060 --> 00:00:50,220 Speaker 1: couple of times before. The first time it came up, 9 00:00:50,260 --> 00:00:54,220 Speaker 1: of course, was when we released originally released our Nirvana episodes, 10 00:00:54,260 --> 00:00:58,150 Speaker 1: our two part story. It's basically on Kurt and Courtney. Um, 11 00:00:58,890 --> 00:01:02,770 Speaker 1: And we had them in the Rewind feed this past weekend. 12 00:01:03,630 --> 00:01:07,590 Speaker 1: And we excerpted parts of that story for some content 13 00:01:07,670 --> 00:01:11,069 Speaker 1: on Instagram. And the response has been, I mean, I 14 00:01:11,130 --> 00:01:13,410 Speaker 1: knew the response was going to be what it was. 15 00:01:13,550 --> 00:01:17,330 Speaker 1: I didn't know it was going to be as intense 16 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,900 Speaker 1: as it was. I know that there's a large group 17 00:01:20,940 --> 00:01:23,260 Speaker 1: of people out there who believe what they believe about 18 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:27,150 Speaker 1: Courtney Love. And it's not what I believe, clearly. And 19 00:01:27,190 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: I knew that they were going to be upset by 20 00:01:29,390 --> 00:01:32,660 Speaker 1: the fact that we were pointing out this anecdote from 21 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: the couple's past where Kurt overdosed. I talked about this 22 00:01:36,300 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: last week in the after party, he overdosed and Courtney 23 00:01:38,780 --> 00:01:43,199 Speaker 1: saved his life. Um, the response is not only intense. 24 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,509 Speaker 1: This is, again, this is on social media. It's on Instagram. It's, 25 00:01:46,690 --> 00:01:52,810 Speaker 1: it's also, it's also pretty hysterical. Um, It's very flattering, guys, 26 00:01:52,990 --> 00:01:57,470 Speaker 1: to think that Courtney Love would pay me to do 27 00:01:57,610 --> 00:02:04,660 Speaker 1: publicity for her. It's very flattering to think that people 28 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:09,500 Speaker 1: believe that I'm an industry plant. But it is kind 29 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: of ridiculous and fascinating. It's more fascinating to me than 30 00:02:14,060 --> 00:02:20,050 Speaker 1: it is ridiculous. And it deserves some unpacking. Because... Again, 31 00:02:20,070 --> 00:02:23,690 Speaker 1: I've looked at everything out there, including, of course, Soaked 32 00:02:23,740 --> 00:02:29,540 Speaker 1: in Bleach, including the new so-called evidence that has come 33 00:02:29,620 --> 00:02:32,500 Speaker 1: out over the last 12 to 18 months, whatever it is. 34 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:41,489 Speaker 1: And yes, there's a lot of compelling, I don't want 35 00:02:41,510 --> 00:02:47,290 Speaker 1: to call it evidence, circumstances, compelling circumstance, excuse me, to 36 00:02:47,310 --> 00:02:51,220 Speaker 1: the death of Kurt. there's a lot you could pull 37 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,950 Speaker 1: to paint some sort of narrative, some sort of picture 38 00:02:55,770 --> 00:02:59,230 Speaker 1: here that points fingers at Courtney Love, but there's no 39 00:02:59,590 --> 00:03:04,550 Speaker 1: actual evidence. And if there were, my God, man, don't 40 00:03:04,590 --> 00:03:09,710 Speaker 1: you think that Courtney Love would be held accountable? Okay, 41 00:03:09,750 --> 00:03:12,109 Speaker 1: but hold on. Let's just go back. I'm more interested 42 00:03:12,389 --> 00:03:17,389 Speaker 1: in the why, like where this disdain comes from. Now, 43 00:03:17,450 --> 00:03:22,070 Speaker 1: on the one hand, I get it. Courtney Love is 44 00:03:22,130 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: an outrageous person. She always has been, even in the 45 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: last two decades of her career here, where she hasn't 46 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,980 Speaker 1: really been as in the public eye as she was 47 00:03:32,020 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: in the 90s and in the early 2000s. She is 48 00:03:35,820 --> 00:03:41,260 Speaker 1: still outrageous, truly. In the truest sense of that word, 49 00:03:41,300 --> 00:03:46,100 Speaker 1: she is outrageous. She says things that are meant to 50 00:03:46,140 --> 00:03:49,940 Speaker 1: drive you crazy, to get attention. She does truly outrageous things. 51 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,540 Speaker 1: I know two people personally who went to her house 52 00:03:52,980 --> 00:03:56,660 Speaker 1: and had the same story. She answered the door naked. 53 00:03:56,740 --> 00:04:03,190 Speaker 1: And that's just me. I cannot imagine what it's like 54 00:04:03,210 --> 00:04:06,910 Speaker 1: for people who actually know Courtney Love. But I'm guessing 55 00:04:06,950 --> 00:04:09,730 Speaker 1: that most of the people in the comments section on 56 00:04:09,770 --> 00:04:13,390 Speaker 1: our Instagram page do not know Courtney Love. And I'm 57 00:04:13,430 --> 00:04:15,050 Speaker 1: also pretty sure that most of the people who are 58 00:04:15,130 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 1: saying these ridiculous things, making these ridiculous comments, aren't Disgraceland 59 00:04:21,820 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: podcast followers. Some of them are. Most of them are 60 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 1: just Disgraceland Instagram followers. And there's a difference. A lack 61 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,219 Speaker 1: of understanding of nuance, I think, is the main difference. 62 00:04:32,260 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: But whatever, that's a different story. My point is, I 63 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,299 Speaker 1: don't know, amongst those of you who are listening now, 64 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:40,750 Speaker 1: I don't know how many of you are as. 65 00:04:43,339 --> 00:04:47,900 Speaker 1: Convinced that Courtney Love killed Kurt as a large portion 66 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,490 Speaker 1: of people on the internet are. And that's because I 67 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:54,030 Speaker 1: think most of our podcast listeners are, I think you 68 00:04:54,050 --> 00:04:56,589 Speaker 1: guys are smart. I think you guys are well-informed and 69 00:04:56,610 --> 00:04:59,450 Speaker 1: I think you know how to process information. However, I 70 00:04:59,490 --> 00:05:03,070 Speaker 1: do understand because I get the emails that there's some 71 00:05:03,110 --> 00:05:06,650 Speaker 1: of you who still think that she did it. And 72 00:05:07,190 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 1: I'm truly interested in hearing from you and hearing why. 73 00:05:11,820 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: But again, that's the point here. Why? Why do people 74 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,050 Speaker 1: think this? Okay, she's outrageous. There's a lot of outrageous 75 00:05:18,110 --> 00:05:23,230 Speaker 1: rock stars. Does that make them killers? No, it does not. 76 00:05:24,670 --> 00:05:27,870 Speaker 1: But Courtney Love, she just scratches this particular itch for 77 00:05:27,910 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 1: people that is unique. She's truly hated. And I try 78 00:05:34,740 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: to not hate anybody, like nobody. I just don't believe 79 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,729 Speaker 1: in hate. I don't like saying that word. I'm not 80 00:05:41,750 --> 00:05:43,450 Speaker 1: trying to get up on a moral high horse here, 81 00:05:43,490 --> 00:05:47,470 Speaker 1: but I try to get at like, okay, why is 82 00:05:47,490 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 1: this person doing this ridiculous stuff? And to me, Courtney 83 00:05:50,060 --> 00:05:53,859 Speaker 1: Love just strikes me as a very cold and calculating 84 00:05:55,220 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: Machiavellian type of entertainer, of which there are many in history. 85 00:05:59,580 --> 00:06:01,020 Speaker 1: And I know you're hearing these words come out of 86 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,260 Speaker 1: my mouth and you're going, dude, listen to what you're saying. 87 00:06:04,100 --> 00:06:06,340 Speaker 1: These are the exact qualities of a killer. Well, it 88 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:08,490 Speaker 1: takes a lot to kill somebody and get away with it. 89 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,380 Speaker 1: A real lot, especially in the public eye, especially when 90 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,950 Speaker 1: you're someone like Courtney Love. Especially when Kurt Cobain is 91 00:06:13,970 --> 00:06:16,849 Speaker 1: one of the biggest rock stars in the history of 92 00:06:16,930 --> 00:06:18,669 Speaker 1: rock and roll, in the history of pop, in the 93 00:06:18,690 --> 00:06:26,140 Speaker 1: history of entertainment. So it just doesn't stand. It just 94 00:06:26,339 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: does not pass the smell test. None of the evidence does. 95 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,220 Speaker 1: And I wish I woke up this morning and had 96 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,660 Speaker 1: the time to go through all the evidence again and 97 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 1: come here. And maybe that's what I should do. I 98 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: should actually– I've been planning on doing this Courtney Love 99 00:06:43,390 --> 00:06:45,870 Speaker 1: episode for some time. And I'm waiting for this documentary 100 00:06:45,910 --> 00:06:48,850 Speaker 1: to come out so that I have more information, more 101 00:06:48,870 --> 00:06:50,190 Speaker 1: of the story. Because I know there's going to be 102 00:06:50,430 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: real revelatory stuff in that film. And it was supposed 103 00:06:56,980 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: to be out. By now, it's not. So I keep 104 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:02,730 Speaker 1: punting this episode down. down the line. But maybe what 105 00:07:02,770 --> 00:07:05,349 Speaker 1: I should do instead, maybe what the audience is telling 106 00:07:05,390 --> 00:07:09,830 Speaker 1: me here is I should actually litigate the facts in 107 00:07:09,870 --> 00:07:15,010 Speaker 1: an episode in a really open-minded way, in a way 108 00:07:15,050 --> 00:07:18,940 Speaker 1: that not necessarily to prove my point, but to unpack 109 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: my point and pressure test my point. Because I'm truly... 110 00:07:28,620 --> 00:07:33,090 Speaker 1: My jaw's on the floor at this reaction. I don't 111 00:07:33,110 --> 00:07:34,750 Speaker 1: mean to laugh, but it is kind of funny when 112 00:07:34,770 --> 00:07:39,350 Speaker 1: you read these comments. Now, of all the rock stars 113 00:07:40,570 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: throughout history, Courtney Love is singular. But if I had 114 00:07:47,020 --> 00:07:51,460 Speaker 1: to choose one rock star to compare her to, and 115 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:55,650 Speaker 1: it has... Nothing to do with her relationship with Kurt Cobain. 116 00:07:55,670 --> 00:07:57,050 Speaker 1: It has nothing to do with the death of Kurt 117 00:07:57,090 --> 00:08:00,010 Speaker 1: Cobain and how he died. If I had one rock 118 00:08:00,060 --> 00:08:04,220 Speaker 1: star to compare Courtney Love to, it would be Sid Vicious. 119 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: Courtney Love is a better musician. She's a better songwriter, 120 00:08:09,020 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: of course. But as far as being an entertainer, being 121 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: a rock star, behaving like a rock star, Sid is 122 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:22,230 Speaker 1: the best comp. Because Sid was completely outrageous as well 123 00:08:22,550 --> 00:08:24,130 Speaker 1: and said things just to get a rise out of 124 00:08:24,150 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: people and just to get attention and all those sort 125 00:08:26,540 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: of things that Courtney, I believe Courtney learned them from 126 00:08:29,540 --> 00:08:32,220 Speaker 1: Sid Vicious, from watching Sid Vicious. And there's some irony 127 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: here too, because Courtney Love is in Sid and Nancy. 128 00:08:37,660 --> 00:08:40,630 Speaker 1: But you don't get, it's interesting because Sid is caught 129 00:08:40,670 --> 00:08:45,350 Speaker 1: up in this murder mystery as well with Nancy, but 130 00:08:45,370 --> 00:08:49,870 Speaker 1: you do not get this hatred anymore. for Sid that 131 00:08:49,890 --> 00:08:53,570 Speaker 1: you get for Courtney Love. And I want to know why. 132 00:08:53,590 --> 00:08:57,010 Speaker 1: I mean, he did truly outrageous. The guy wore a 133 00:08:57,090 --> 00:09:01,850 Speaker 1: swastika for the entirety of his career, okay? I mean, 134 00:09:01,870 --> 00:09:05,620 Speaker 1: I get the context, okay? So, you know, OG punk rockers, 135 00:09:05,660 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: don't come at me for being critical of that. I'm 136 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,359 Speaker 1: just pointing it out. There's a lot. My point is 137 00:09:10,380 --> 00:09:14,460 Speaker 1: that there's a lot there with Sid that could drive 138 00:09:14,500 --> 00:09:17,730 Speaker 1: you fucking crazy and cause you to be super critical 139 00:09:17,770 --> 00:09:20,810 Speaker 1: of the guy and perhaps come up with, I don't know, 140 00:09:20,870 --> 00:09:23,709 Speaker 1: wild conspiracy theories or not even, I mean, the stuff 141 00:09:23,730 --> 00:09:26,890 Speaker 1: with Nancy, it's a stone cold whodunit with Nancy, I think. 142 00:09:27,309 --> 00:09:29,150 Speaker 1: And we're going to get into that later as well. 143 00:09:29,610 --> 00:09:31,650 Speaker 1: Of course, we touched on Sid and Nancy before, but 144 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: you know, if you talk to old school, New York 145 00:09:35,410 --> 00:09:40,500 Speaker 1: punk rockers and hardcore kids, they all have a very 146 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: clear idea of who killed Nancy. And, um, I'm interested 147 00:09:46,900 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: in unpacking that, but I'm getting off topic. Why don't 148 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: people hate Sid Vicious the way that they hate Courtney Love? 149 00:09:58,850 --> 00:10:02,140 Speaker 1: What is it? I mean, is it misogyny? Is it 150 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,500 Speaker 1: because he's a man, he's not a woman? I don't 151 00:10:04,540 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: think so. I don't think those of you who listen 152 00:10:06,700 --> 00:10:10,260 Speaker 1: to this podcast and are disgracing listeners and are convinced 153 00:10:10,740 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: that Courtney Love killed Kurt Cobain, I don't think you're misogynist. Now, 154 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,780 Speaker 1: could a large portion of the people in the disgrace 155 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,670 Speaker 1: land comments on Instagram. Could that be at the core 156 00:10:23,809 --> 00:10:28,350 Speaker 1: of their belief? Perhaps. I don't know. I haven't really 157 00:10:28,390 --> 00:10:33,589 Speaker 1: dug into it. Maybe I will. There's just something about her, 158 00:10:34,110 --> 00:10:35,910 Speaker 1: or maybe there's not. Maybe I'm looking at it the 159 00:10:35,929 --> 00:10:40,130 Speaker 1: wrong way. Maybe it's because there's something about Kurt. Kurt 160 00:10:40,170 --> 00:10:44,110 Speaker 1: Cobain is a lot different than Nancy Spungen. Kurt Cobain 161 00:10:44,130 --> 00:10:48,900 Speaker 1: is at least for our generation, for Gen X, there 162 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,990 Speaker 1: was nobody more important. There was nobody bigger. There was 163 00:10:52,020 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: nobody who reached as many people. There was nobody who 164 00:10:55,210 --> 00:11:02,270 Speaker 1: had the cultural impact in music. He was our John Lennon, 165 00:11:02,790 --> 00:11:06,730 Speaker 1: our Bob Dylan. He was all of it rolled into one. 166 00:11:07,910 --> 00:11:11,710 Speaker 1: And I do think there's something psychologically with music fans 167 00:11:11,790 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: where they cannot let go. I see this with Michael 168 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,940 Speaker 1: Jackson fans. I see this with Elvis Presley fans and 169 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,230 Speaker 1: I see it with Kurt Cobain fans. It's a little 170 00:11:20,330 --> 00:11:22,590 Speaker 1: different than it is with, I don't know, like, you know, 171 00:11:25,170 --> 00:11:31,350 Speaker 1: Lane Staley fans or pick it Tom Petty. You know 172 00:11:31,370 --> 00:11:33,189 Speaker 1: what I mean? Not that those guys weren't great. They were, 173 00:11:33,210 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: they're truly incredible, but they weren't Kurt Cobain, Michael Jackson level. 174 00:11:39,100 --> 00:11:42,340 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? And maybe that has something 175 00:11:42,380 --> 00:11:47,060 Speaker 1: to do with it. Maybe in the absence of actually 176 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: dealing with our sort of icon grief, we cannot accept 177 00:11:52,870 --> 00:11:56,650 Speaker 1: the fact that the answer is the answer. We don't 178 00:11:56,690 --> 00:12:01,690 Speaker 1: want to accept it because then it prompts another level 179 00:12:01,730 --> 00:12:05,650 Speaker 1: of letting go. And if we can hang on to 180 00:12:05,670 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: the I don't want to call it a conspiracy, but 181 00:12:08,100 --> 00:12:09,580 Speaker 1: if we can hang on to these, I guess it 182 00:12:09,620 --> 00:12:12,230 Speaker 1: is a conspiracy. We can hang on to these alternate theories, 183 00:12:12,250 --> 00:12:15,250 Speaker 1: whatever you want to call them about their deaths. We 184 00:12:15,290 --> 00:12:18,210 Speaker 1: can keep their, their stories alive and we can, the 185 00:12:18,290 --> 00:12:22,429 Speaker 1: myth certainly grows. And maybe that's on some sort of 186 00:12:22,770 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: subconscious psychological level, what's happening here. Or maybe people just 187 00:12:27,100 --> 00:12:29,860 Speaker 1: think Courtney Love is a fucking crazy person and, and, 188 00:12:31,020 --> 00:12:34,130 Speaker 1: and contains a capacity to, to do something like murder 189 00:12:34,190 --> 00:12:36,250 Speaker 1: her husband and get away with it for all these 190 00:12:36,290 --> 00:12:41,490 Speaker 1: years publicly, which I have a lot of respect for 191 00:12:41,550 --> 00:12:44,689 Speaker 1: Courtney Love. That might shock a lot of you, but 192 00:12:44,730 --> 00:12:48,170 Speaker 1: I don't have that level of respect for her cunningness 193 00:12:48,910 --> 00:12:51,329 Speaker 1: to think that she could pull that off. But again, 194 00:12:51,370 --> 00:12:53,550 Speaker 1: I'm going to look into it more fully. I'm going 195 00:12:53,590 --> 00:12:57,100 Speaker 1: to respect the people who are showing me no respect 196 00:12:58,050 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: in the comments, and I'm going to dig into this 197 00:13:02,220 --> 00:13:05,460 Speaker 1: and see if I have some sort of artist bias, 198 00:13:05,580 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: historical bias, whatever type of bias and see if I'm 199 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: wrong here. See if, see if I'm going to look 200 00:13:11,740 --> 00:13:16,219 Speaker 1: at this information again. I've looked at it. Like I said, 201 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: Matt really looked at it. He really went at that 202 00:13:18,620 --> 00:13:21,199 Speaker 1: dossier of info that came out about 18 months ago. 203 00:13:21,220 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: And we had a big, big talk about it. I'm 204 00:13:24,620 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: going to even watch fucking soaked in bleach again. And 205 00:13:28,580 --> 00:13:32,660 Speaker 1: that knucklehead from the mentors and that whole theory And 206 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: I'm going to entertain, I guess, all the stuff about 207 00:13:35,059 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: her dad, even though just because you were associated with 208 00:13:37,900 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 1: the Grateful Dead does not make you a member of 209 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: the CIA. I'm going to look into all of this, 210 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,710 Speaker 1: I think. But most important, I want to hear from 211 00:13:46,750 --> 00:13:49,709 Speaker 1: you guys. I want to hear from you listeners who 212 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:55,809 Speaker 1: don't normally engage and who think that Courtney killed Kurt. 213 00:13:55,890 --> 00:13:58,730 Speaker 1: And I want to know why. And there's no stupid 214 00:13:58,790 --> 00:14:01,390 Speaker 1: answer here, okay? There are no stupid questions. There are 215 00:14:01,429 --> 00:14:04,620 Speaker 1: no stupid answers. I really want to understand this because 216 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: it's some sort of phenomenon that's unique to rock and 217 00:14:07,300 --> 00:14:09,980 Speaker 1: roll history. And it's fascinating to me. I thought I 218 00:14:10,020 --> 00:14:12,939 Speaker 1: was done with it. I'm not. So there's that. If 219 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:17,260 Speaker 1: you're not on Instagram and you're not following Disgraceland at DisgracelandPod, 220 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:20,970 Speaker 1: you want to see what I'm talking about. There's maybe 221 00:14:21,020 --> 00:14:23,870 Speaker 1: four posts about Kurt and Courtney over the last week. 222 00:14:24,810 --> 00:14:28,290 Speaker 1: And there's one carousel post, which is this post that's 223 00:14:28,330 --> 00:14:30,690 Speaker 1: like a series of images of And it's a little 224 00:14:30,770 --> 00:14:34,830 Speaker 1: story that we tell along with the images, pictures, and quotes. 225 00:14:35,980 --> 00:14:38,860 Speaker 1: And that's the one that really, really got people going. 226 00:14:39,130 --> 00:14:40,980 Speaker 1: Check that out. Let me know what you think. And 227 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: email me at disgracelandpod. And I want to get into 228 00:14:43,900 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: these theories. I want to get into your thoughts. And 229 00:14:46,180 --> 00:14:49,060 Speaker 1: I want them to inform the episode that I'll probably 230 00:14:49,100 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: start to put together within the next sort of four 231 00:14:51,460 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: to six weeks, I'm guessing. And it'll be a straight 232 00:14:54,540 --> 00:14:58,270 Speaker 1: up whodunit. Obviously, we covered a lot of ground in 233 00:14:58,370 --> 00:15:02,310 Speaker 1: the Nirvana story thus far. I'm not going to retread that. 234 00:15:02,330 --> 00:15:05,090 Speaker 1: I'm just going to get into the actual death and 235 00:15:05,170 --> 00:15:11,350 Speaker 1: the theory that Courtney killed Kurt. Now, as outrageous as 236 00:15:11,430 --> 00:15:15,510 Speaker 1: this theory is, there are more outrageous theories from rock 237 00:15:15,550 --> 00:15:23,850 Speaker 1: and roll history. Truly weird, unhinged, completely ludicrous ideas about 238 00:15:23,910 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: rock stars. I've had my fun with some of these 239 00:15:27,020 --> 00:15:30,370 Speaker 1: theories before in the past. The idea that John Denver 240 00:15:31,930 --> 00:15:37,310 Speaker 1: was one of Vietnam's most prolific American assassins. The idea 241 00:15:37,350 --> 00:15:39,910 Speaker 1: that Jim Morrison is the Zodiac killer. I kind of 242 00:15:39,930 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: made that up. There's some other ones. The notion, some 243 00:15:43,260 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: people think Stevie Wonder can see. Some people think that 244 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:48,810 Speaker 1: Jay-Z is a vampire. We're going to get into you. 245 00:15:49,780 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: some of the more outrageous rockstar conspiracy theories and have 246 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: some fun with this in the exclusive section of this episode. 247 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,910 Speaker 1: Go to disgracingpod.com to sign up, become an all-access member, 248 00:16:01,050 --> 00:16:04,330 Speaker 1: unlock exclusive content just like this, plus ad-free listening. Zeth 249 00:16:04,370 --> 00:16:08,130 Speaker 1: and I will be in there momentarily, and we will 250 00:16:08,150 --> 00:16:12,530 Speaker 1: be giving you all this insanity and more. All right, 251 00:16:12,550 --> 00:16:14,980 Speaker 1: so talking Kurt and Courtney because they're in the Rewind 252 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: feed this last week, and then we released our New 253 00:16:19,260 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: episode on Screamin' Jay Hawkins this past Tuesday. Coming up 254 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,580 Speaker 1: after this after party, guys, we've got a Rewind episode 255 00:16:25,620 --> 00:16:29,250 Speaker 1: on Eminem. That's going to, now that I think about it, 256 00:16:30,190 --> 00:16:34,630 Speaker 1: that's going to cause some problems as well. But Screamin' 257 00:16:34,650 --> 00:16:38,190 Speaker 1: Jay Hawkins fathered 57 children. Did you guys know this? 258 00:16:40,230 --> 00:16:42,950 Speaker 1: It's part of rock and roll mythology for sure. And 259 00:16:42,990 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: it's something that came out, I don't know, decade or 260 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: two ago. It always fascinated me. 57 children. When Jay 261 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,740 Speaker 1: Hawkins died, it was revealed that those children were out 262 00:16:53,780 --> 00:16:57,330 Speaker 1: there and most of them were illegitimate and unknown to him. 263 00:16:57,350 --> 00:17:01,650 Speaker 1: A friend of his asked Screamin' Jay if he ever 264 00:17:01,730 --> 00:17:04,930 Speaker 1: sent his children money and Screamin' Jay responded, well, that's 265 00:17:04,990 --> 00:17:09,239 Speaker 1: the mother's problem. Solid dude that he is. Screamin' Jay 266 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,020 Speaker 1: Hawkins is one of these guys who bounced between record 267 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:14,419 Speaker 1: labels a as much as he bounced between wives and 268 00:17:14,460 --> 00:17:18,129 Speaker 1: girlfriends in one-night stands. And when he was on his deathbed, 269 00:17:18,290 --> 00:17:22,810 Speaker 1: he supposedly asked a new friend of his, an investment banker, 270 00:17:23,410 --> 00:17:28,310 Speaker 1: to track down all 57 of his children. So the 271 00:17:28,330 --> 00:17:33,629 Speaker 1: banker set up a website called jayskids.com and received upwards 272 00:17:33,810 --> 00:17:38,580 Speaker 1: of 2,500 submissions from people claiming to be Screamin' Jay Hawkins' progeny. 273 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:44,260 Speaker 1: So approximately one year later, after Screamin' Jay's death, a 274 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:50,980 Speaker 1: total of 36 legitimate children had been identified. But not 275 00:17:51,330 --> 00:17:56,130 Speaker 1: one of them went to his funeral. Now, to his 276 00:17:56,250 --> 00:17:59,389 Speaker 1: three legitimate children that he knew of, the children that 277 00:17:59,410 --> 00:18:02,510 Speaker 1: he had with his first wife, Anna Mae, Screamin' Jay 278 00:18:02,550 --> 00:18:10,060 Speaker 1: Hawkins left $ 1 each. This is... fucking crazy. I don't 279 00:18:10,100 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: understand the $ 1 thing. I really don't. Why leave them anything? 280 00:18:16,260 --> 00:18:18,180 Speaker 1: Is it just a diss? Is it a way of 281 00:18:18,220 --> 00:18:22,670 Speaker 1: being cute? Or was it legitimately a heartfelt, I got 282 00:18:22,730 --> 00:18:26,169 Speaker 1: nothing and I want to show them I care? It's 283 00:18:26,210 --> 00:18:30,470 Speaker 1: really fascinating to me. Screaming Jay Hawkins is completely fascinating 284 00:18:30,490 --> 00:18:31,570 Speaker 1: to me. You can hear all about him in the 285 00:18:31,609 --> 00:18:35,090 Speaker 1: new episode if you haven't already. Perfectly timed for the 286 00:18:35,350 --> 00:18:38,890 Speaker 1: spooky Halloween season that we have just entered. as is 287 00:18:39,010 --> 00:18:41,990 Speaker 1: the Eminem episode. Now, Elvis Presley died on the toilet. 288 00:18:42,430 --> 00:18:45,410 Speaker 1: Eminem launched his career on the toilet. Gross. I know, 289 00:18:45,550 --> 00:18:47,850 Speaker 1: grosser than the Constipation Blues song we were talking about 290 00:18:47,890 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 1: last week, but it is true. It was Christmas. It 291 00:18:50,500 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: was also Eminem's daughter's birthday, and Em was broke and 292 00:18:53,540 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: back in his mom's trailer. And he was constipated and 293 00:18:56,580 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: on the toilet, and he took notice of how skinny 294 00:18:58,820 --> 00:19:04,609 Speaker 1: he was, and inspiration struck. Skinny, slim, slim, shady, slim, shady. 295 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,310 Speaker 1: He grabbed a nearby pen and notebook and the lines 296 00:19:07,369 --> 00:19:09,910 Speaker 1: just flowed out of him page after page of words 297 00:19:09,930 --> 00:19:12,409 Speaker 1: that became the song that would help Eminem break through 298 00:19:12,850 --> 00:19:16,030 Speaker 1: and launch his career. More than that, the Slim Shady 299 00:19:16,210 --> 00:19:19,540 Speaker 1: alter ego concept that Em conceived on the can gave 300 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:23,859 Speaker 1: Eminem the creative shield that he needed to explore incredibly 301 00:19:23,900 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 1: dark themes in his raps. Themes that attracted millions of 302 00:19:27,420 --> 00:19:30,859 Speaker 1: listeners and led to his 1999 Slim Shady album going 303 00:19:30,940 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 1: quadruple platinum. And it all started, well, Now you know 304 00:19:34,420 --> 00:19:38,340 Speaker 1: where it started. More on Eminem in this upcoming archive 305 00:19:38,420 --> 00:19:41,780 Speaker 1: episode of the Disgrace Sam podcast. That's hitting this weekend 306 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,970 Speaker 1: in the feed. Then after that on Tuesday, our new 307 00:19:45,090 --> 00:19:49,510 Speaker 1: episode on As I Lay Dying. And we're asking the question, 308 00:19:49,530 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: is this Christian music scene full of phony faith leaders? Now, 309 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: Tim Lambisa, singer for the Christian metalcore band As I 310 00:19:56,600 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 1: Lay Dying, the front man. This is a band, guys, 311 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:05,169 Speaker 1: that would regularly pray with their fans after shows. Now he, 312 00:20:05,250 --> 00:20:07,649 Speaker 1: this front man, Tim Lambisa of As I Lay Dying, 313 00:20:07,980 --> 00:20:10,619 Speaker 1: admitted to being an atheist, and he claimed that the 314 00:20:10,660 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: majority of Christian metal bands that he toured with were 315 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,980 Speaker 1: not actually Christian. What he said was that only 1 316 00:20:15,980 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: in 10 of the bands in the scene were actually 317 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:24,179 Speaker 1: sincere about their faith, and that the rest were fake Christians. Now, 318 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:27,510 Speaker 1: Tim Lambisa's band, As I Lay Dying, they weren't some 319 00:20:27,609 --> 00:20:30,129 Speaker 1: fringe act. They were nominated for a Grammy, they released 320 00:20:30,170 --> 00:20:32,929 Speaker 1: an album that charted in the top 10, and all 321 00:20:32,950 --> 00:20:36,830 Speaker 1: of that was because of their devoted fans, Christian fans 322 00:20:36,869 --> 00:20:40,110 Speaker 1: who believed in the band's faith-based message. But the story 323 00:20:40,130 --> 00:20:41,929 Speaker 1: of Tim Lambesis in As I Lay Dying, it's not 324 00:20:41,970 --> 00:20:45,030 Speaker 1: just about Christianity and whether or not people are charlatans, 325 00:20:45,130 --> 00:20:50,540 Speaker 1: it's about murder. Because in 2013, Lambesis was arrested after 326 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:54,939 Speaker 1: paying an undercover cop disguised as a hitman to kill 327 00:20:55,260 --> 00:20:58,330 Speaker 1: his wife. Obviously not a very Christian thing to do. 328 00:20:58,790 --> 00:21:00,570 Speaker 1: We get into the story of Tim Lambesis in As 329 00:21:00,609 --> 00:21:02,649 Speaker 1: I Lay Dying and the whole Christian metal scene in 330 00:21:02,670 --> 00:21:04,970 Speaker 1: the new episode of Disgrace Land. So do not miss that. 331 00:21:04,990 --> 00:21:08,010 Speaker 1: That's coming on Tuesday. And when you're listening to this 332 00:21:08,170 --> 00:21:10,369 Speaker 1: As I Lay Dying episode, what I want to know 333 00:21:10,410 --> 00:21:14,290 Speaker 1: from you guys, what music do you listen to that 334 00:21:14,310 --> 00:21:18,550 Speaker 1: compels you to think about faith? I don't mean something 335 00:21:18,570 --> 00:21:20,850 Speaker 1: that's converted you to a religion. That's not what I'm saying. 336 00:21:21,650 --> 00:21:24,290 Speaker 1: I personally believe that the mystery of faith is something 337 00:21:24,330 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 1: to be contemplated. It's something to be confronted. Okay? And 338 00:21:29,420 --> 00:21:31,609 Speaker 1: a lot of music has done that for me. I 339 00:21:31,650 --> 00:21:35,369 Speaker 1: think about Dylan's Christian album, Slow Train of Coming. For 340 00:21:35,410 --> 00:21:38,230 Speaker 1: some reason, I think of Moby's play. That record always 341 00:21:38,270 --> 00:21:40,729 Speaker 1: kind of makes me think about my faith and think 342 00:21:40,770 --> 00:21:43,899 Speaker 1: about faith in general, I should say. I think about 343 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: gospel bluegrass music. I tend to listen to that a 344 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,980 Speaker 1: lot on Sunday mornings. And it's all for this reason. 345 00:21:51,020 --> 00:21:54,180 Speaker 1: It's kind of propelling me in this direction to think 346 00:21:54,380 --> 00:21:58,570 Speaker 1: about faith. So what music does that for you? Is 347 00:21:58,630 --> 00:22:00,350 Speaker 1: it As I Lay Dying? I don't think so. It's 348 00:22:00,369 --> 00:22:02,980 Speaker 1: not for me anyways. But what music do you listen 349 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: to that has pushed you to confront faith, to think 350 00:22:06,300 --> 00:22:09,620 Speaker 1: about faith? And it's a little heavy, but I don't care. 617-906-6638, 351 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:14,490 Speaker 1: voicemail and text. Get at me. We'll get into it. 352 00:22:14,510 --> 00:22:16,990 Speaker 1: You might hear yourself in next week's episode of the 353 00:22:17,030 --> 00:22:20,430 Speaker 1: Disgraceland After Party. You can always DM me at DisgracelandPod 354 00:22:20,470 --> 00:22:24,889 Speaker 1: on the socials as well. DisgracelandPod at gmail.com on email. 355 00:22:25,130 --> 00:22:27,629 Speaker 1: I'll be back right after this. with your answers to 356 00:22:27,690 --> 00:22:29,929 Speaker 1: last week's question of the week, your voicemails, texts, all 357 00:22:29,970 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: that stuff. Hang on. All right, guys, welcome back. Let's 358 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:50,860 Speaker 1: get straight into your calls. 617-906-6638, voicemail and text. This 359 00:22:51,100 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 1: one comes from the 903 on the subject of Screamin' 360 00:22:54,180 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: Jay Hawkins. 361 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,949 Speaker 2: Hey, Jake. Adam from Texas, now in Maryland. Excuse me, 362 00:22:59,990 --> 00:23:03,770 Speaker 2: Jay Hawkins. I can't help but remember you said that 363 00:23:03,790 --> 00:23:06,950 Speaker 2: he was addicted to codeine at one point. I can 364 00:23:07,050 --> 00:23:09,870 Speaker 2: block his bowels, too. So, obviously, he died of a 365 00:23:09,910 --> 00:23:12,730 Speaker 2: blocked bowel. I would guess the codeine addiction had something 366 00:23:12,750 --> 00:23:15,450 Speaker 2: to do with it more than anything. But, as you said, 367 00:23:15,490 --> 00:23:17,780 Speaker 2: we don't know because everybody you look, you hear a 368 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 2: different story. So, us in our current factory thing, what 369 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,700 Speaker 2: we feel might be right. Must be right, of course, 370 00:23:26,980 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 2: in the way things go these days. Just my only 371 00:23:29,580 --> 00:23:34,300 Speaker 2: thought on that. Great episode, otherwise. Just insane on the 372 00:23:34,300 --> 00:23:37,260 Speaker 2: 54 kids. I don't even know what to say about that. 373 00:23:37,980 --> 00:23:43,570 Speaker 1: Anyway, love the episode. Love the show. Rock and roll up. Out. Adam, 374 00:23:43,590 --> 00:23:45,890 Speaker 1: thanks for the call, my man. Appreciate you. 54 kids, 375 00:23:45,890 --> 00:23:47,669 Speaker 1: 56 kids, 57 kids, 36 kids. Whatever it was, it 376 00:23:47,690 --> 00:23:53,250 Speaker 1: was a lot of kids. which is just crazy. And 377 00:23:53,310 --> 00:23:55,669 Speaker 1: I feel for those kids who hopefully some of them 378 00:23:55,710 --> 00:24:01,660 Speaker 1: found a dad elsewhere somehow. Yeah, the coding, intestinal blockage 379 00:24:02,020 --> 00:24:05,060 Speaker 1: as well. A lot of intestinal blockage talk over these 380 00:24:05,100 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: weeks in this Graceland. Who knows? Who knows how Jay died? 381 00:24:11,010 --> 00:24:12,609 Speaker 1: Wouldn't it be ironic if one of his kids did 382 00:24:12,630 --> 00:24:18,090 Speaker 1: him in? Let's go to Kelly in the 7-8 one. Hey, Jake. 383 00:24:18,270 --> 00:24:21,030 Speaker 3: This is Kelly from the 781. I have not called 384 00:24:21,050 --> 00:24:22,010 Speaker 3: in a while. I'm sorry. 385 00:24:22,609 --> 00:24:23,169 Speaker 1: I was just. 386 00:24:23,050 --> 00:24:27,370 Speaker 3: Re-listening to the Kurt Cobain and Courtney Love episodes again, 387 00:24:27,570 --> 00:24:31,860 Speaker 3: and I'm just calling about your question. Did Courtney Love 388 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,980 Speaker 3: kill Kurt Cobain? And I think absolutely no. And I 389 00:24:36,060 --> 00:24:40,020 Speaker 3: am down for conspiracy. I think that, as they say 390 00:24:40,140 --> 00:24:43,899 Speaker 3: on another podcast I listen to, the difference between a 391 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,120 Speaker 3: conspiracy and the truth is six months. And really, that's 392 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,810 Speaker 3: how it's been lately with all the craziness. But no, 393 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:52,690 Speaker 3: I have never thought that she killed him. I always 394 00:24:52,710 --> 00:24:55,530 Speaker 3: thought that was ludicrous. Why would she kill him, number one? 395 00:24:56,190 --> 00:24:58,130 Speaker 3: What did she gain from that? I mean, she had 396 00:24:58,150 --> 00:24:59,710 Speaker 3: her own money. She had whatever. 397 00:24:59,730 --> 00:25:00,510 Speaker 2: She loved him. 398 00:25:00,530 --> 00:25:04,100 Speaker 3: She did not kill him. I think that's ridiculous. 399 00:25:05,100 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 2: Macarola. 400 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: Kelly, the voice of reason. Appreciate you calling in. I'm 401 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: with you. I do not think Courtney Love. Obviously, we 402 00:25:12,300 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: talked about this earlier. I want to get into the specifics, though, 403 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 1: and I'm going to unpack this for the people who 404 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:22,090 Speaker 1: do think so. 617-906-6638, voicemail and text. We can keep 405 00:25:22,109 --> 00:25:23,869 Speaker 1: talking about Courtney Love. We can talk about Jay Hawkins. 406 00:25:24,570 --> 00:25:27,430 Speaker 1: We can talk about anything you want to talk about. 407 00:25:27,430 --> 00:25:30,609 Speaker 1: 302 writes in, and 302 is very angry. Says, Jake, 408 00:25:30,650 --> 00:25:32,629 Speaker 1: my friend, if your question of the week isn't, are 409 00:25:32,670 --> 00:25:36,869 Speaker 1: you one of Screamin' Jay's kids, then we as a 410 00:25:36,910 --> 00:25:41,500 Speaker 1: disgraced land society don't deserve shit. I don't quite understand 411 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: what that means, 302, but a lot of passion there. 412 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: Are you one of Screamin' J's kids? 413 00:25:49,619 --> 00:25:49,780 Speaker 3: 617-906-6638. 414 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: Voicemail and text. Get back and let me know. 405 415 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 1: writes in, after a long hiatus that life often imposes 416 00:25:56,260 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: on us all, I have had a lot of catching 417 00:25:58,660 --> 00:26:01,139 Speaker 1: up to do. And while I'm late to the game, 418 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,340 Speaker 1: I had an existential experience in listening to your piece 419 00:26:04,500 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 1: on Patti Smith. I listen to a lot of podcasts 420 00:26:07,500 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 1: and you always bring your A game, but your work 421 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,219 Speaker 1: on Patti Smith took me to a place in my 422 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: mind in the universe that is only reserved when that 423 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:17,030 Speaker 1: rare moment of clarity hits. You recently spoke of the 424 00:26:17,090 --> 00:26:19,850 Speaker 1: new mediums for good writers and your episode on Patti 425 00:26:19,910 --> 00:26:22,410 Speaker 1: Smith is up there with the great pieces. And wow, 426 00:26:22,550 --> 00:26:26,690 Speaker 1: thank you. In modern, that's me saying thank you. Goes 427 00:26:26,730 --> 00:26:28,570 Speaker 1: on to say, is up there with the great pieces 428 00:26:28,609 --> 00:26:32,020 Speaker 1: in modern pop culture literature in the New Yorker, Rolling Stone, 429 00:26:32,100 --> 00:26:34,820 Speaker 1: and those other magazine rack grabs that molded the youth 430 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 1: of the 1970s, 80s, and 90s. Don't stop writing. Rockarola, 431 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: the Notorious R.D.G. from the 405. Notorious R.D.G. Thank you 432 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:50,010 Speaker 1: so much. Really cool of you to say. I appreciate that. Yeah, 433 00:26:50,030 --> 00:26:54,540 Speaker 1: that episode was nominated for a Signal Award. If you 434 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:58,180 Speaker 1: guys want Disgraceland to win, as I do, because like 435 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,580 Speaker 1: I said, once you get nominated for an award, it's 436 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,940 Speaker 1: a double-edged sword. You don't want to lose. I hate 437 00:27:02,980 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 1: fucking losing. I don't like the concept of, oh, it's 438 00:27:05,700 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 1: just nice to be considered. Fuck that. I want to win. 439 00:27:09,740 --> 00:27:16,540 Speaker 1: So help me win. Help us win. Go to the website, SignalAward.com. 440 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,380 Speaker 1: Big button right there. Click vote now. You can find 441 00:27:19,420 --> 00:27:24,199 Speaker 1: Disgraceland nominated for Best Writing and Best Music. Thank you, 442 00:27:24,220 --> 00:27:26,890 Speaker 1: Matt Bowden. Thank you, Sean Cahalan. Thank you, Ryan Spraker, 443 00:27:26,990 --> 00:27:29,210 Speaker 1: for all the amazing work you guys do on the 444 00:27:29,270 --> 00:27:33,270 Speaker 1: music for Disgraceland. And I like that you're being acknowledged 445 00:27:33,310 --> 00:27:36,310 Speaker 1: here as well as my writing. And thanks for the 446 00:27:36,330 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 1: kind words. I really appreciate it, RDG. That is, you know, 447 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:45,859 Speaker 1: I'm humbled. I truly am. Helltown Mark from the 978 448 00:27:45,859 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 1: writes in, hey, didn't really expect to be adding a 449 00:27:48,540 --> 00:27:52,690 Speaker 1: blues song about constipation today, but here we are. And 450 00:27:52,710 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: there's a screenshot of Helltown Mark's phone where he's selecting 451 00:27:58,300 --> 00:28:02,940 Speaker 1: Constipation Blues and adding it to the Disgraceland Songs playlist. Mark, 452 00:28:02,980 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 1: do me a favor and call in and leave us 453 00:28:04,940 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: a voicemail. You're great on the text, but I want 454 00:28:07,100 --> 00:28:08,889 Speaker 1: a voicemail and I want you to explain to the 455 00:28:08,910 --> 00:28:11,670 Speaker 1: people what this is so that I can explain it 456 00:28:11,710 --> 00:28:13,790 Speaker 1: more fully. I'm getting hit up on Instagram. People are 457 00:28:13,910 --> 00:28:15,469 Speaker 1: asking about this playlist and I want to let them 458 00:28:15,510 --> 00:28:20,460 Speaker 1: know exactly what it is and where they can find it. Um, uh, 459 00:28:20,619 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: this is, uh, an ongoing thing. I get at least 460 00:28:23,020 --> 00:28:28,330 Speaker 1: one message per week. So call back 617-906-6638 voicemail and text. 461 00:28:28,330 --> 00:28:34,550 Speaker 1: 416 writes in on our Quincy Jones episode. Hey, great 462 00:28:34,690 --> 00:28:36,929 Speaker 1: Q episode. I really identified with what you said at 463 00:28:36,950 --> 00:28:39,890 Speaker 1: the beginning of the after party episode all throughout high school. 464 00:28:39,930 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: I was told you're going to become a writer. You're 465 00:28:41,900 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: going to write stuff. What did I do? I became 466 00:28:43,820 --> 00:28:49,550 Speaker 1: a clinical psychologist, researcher, and professor. Turns out I write 467 00:28:49,590 --> 00:28:51,790 Speaker 1: for a living. It started with the BA, the MA, 468 00:28:51,850 --> 00:28:55,130 Speaker 1: the PhD dissertation. When people say, oh, you're a psychologist, 469 00:28:55,150 --> 00:28:57,750 Speaker 1: what do you do? I reply, paperwork. I see my 470 00:28:57,810 --> 00:28:59,890 Speaker 1: job as trying to tell the client's story through these 471 00:28:59,930 --> 00:29:02,130 Speaker 1: very long reports, but I tell them that my job 472 00:29:02,190 --> 00:29:03,700 Speaker 1: is not to get it right. My job is to 473 00:29:03,740 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: get it right for them. Now, of course, people tell 474 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,180 Speaker 1: me I should have a podcast because I love telling stories. 475 00:29:08,940 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: This is the way of the world now. This is 476 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,180 Speaker 1: how you get your stories out. This is how you 477 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 1: speak your truth about life. Rock-a-rola. Well, Jason in the 416, 478 00:29:15,860 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: this is a Very interesting text. You sound highly educated 479 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,900 Speaker 1: and I'm glad that you're getting your money's worth and 480 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 1: that you finally became a writer in a roundabout way, 481 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,750 Speaker 1: just like I did. It's crazy how these things happen. 482 00:29:33,410 --> 00:29:33,730 Speaker 3: All right. 483 00:29:33,750 --> 00:29:36,350 Speaker 1: 617-906-6638. Voicemail and text. Get at me. Leave a voicemail. 484 00:29:36,430 --> 00:29:43,130 Speaker 1: I'll a text. Recommend some episodes. Give me your answers 485 00:29:43,150 --> 00:29:46,810 Speaker 1: to the question of the week. What music inspires you 486 00:29:47,010 --> 00:29:50,490 Speaker 1: to confront or contemplate your faith? I know it's heavy, 487 00:29:51,470 --> 00:29:53,590 Speaker 1: but who gives a shit? Let's get into it. We 488 00:29:53,610 --> 00:29:56,790 Speaker 1: know each other. We've known each other for a while. 489 00:29:56,810 --> 00:30:01,100 Speaker 1: It's been a while since I've been out there. And 490 00:30:01,220 --> 00:30:05,180 Speaker 1: I'm getting out there, getting out there in the new year. 491 00:30:05,620 --> 00:30:09,550 Speaker 1: It's going to happen. Get this cruise planned and we're 492 00:30:09,570 --> 00:30:14,470 Speaker 1: going to be staging a live version of Disgraceland. Haven't 493 00:30:14,490 --> 00:30:16,510 Speaker 1: done a live show in a while. We're going to 494 00:30:16,530 --> 00:30:21,510 Speaker 1: be doing it on a ship. Version voyages. Zeth and 495 00:30:21,530 --> 00:30:25,700 Speaker 1: I going to be taping, filming, perhaps a live episode 496 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: of the Disgraceland podcast and after party. And we need 497 00:30:30,540 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: you there. Okay. We're going to make this disco centric. 498 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,220 Speaker 1: This cruise does not happen until March 20th, 2027. So 499 00:30:38,260 --> 00:30:40,700 Speaker 1: you got some time and this would make just a 500 00:30:40,780 --> 00:30:48,150 Speaker 1: fantastic Christmas present. Okay. For you and your girlfriend, boyfriend, wife, husband, whatever, buddy, pal. 501 00:30:48,370 --> 00:30:51,490 Speaker 1: I don't know. You're just Graceland fans. Just come on out. 502 00:30:51,850 --> 00:30:54,150 Speaker 1: And if you order now, if you book now, I 503 00:30:54,190 --> 00:30:56,630 Speaker 1: should say, you can score up to a thousand bucks 504 00:30:56,850 --> 00:31:03,330 Speaker 1: in savings, 70% off. 70% off your, what they're calling 505 00:31:03,630 --> 00:31:06,930 Speaker 1: second sailor. It sounds fun. Not as fun as the 506 00:31:06,970 --> 00:31:09,570 Speaker 1: first sailor. I imagine that means the person you're going 507 00:31:09,610 --> 00:31:13,990 Speaker 1: with gets 70% off and you get a $ 300 onboard 508 00:31:14,230 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: credit that I'm sure you can put towards all kinds 509 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 1: of stuff on the ship. Go to virginvoyages.com slash true 510 00:31:20,700 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: crime and grab your spot. This is going to sell out. 511 00:31:23,940 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 1: This is March 20th, 2027. We're sailing out of Miami. 512 00:31:28,660 --> 00:31:31,170 Speaker 1: And we're heading to Grand Turk. It's going to be 513 00:31:31,230 --> 00:31:33,810 Speaker 1: five nights. And it's not just going to be me. 514 00:31:34,030 --> 00:31:35,730 Speaker 1: It's going to be me and Zeth, like I said. 515 00:31:36,410 --> 00:31:38,610 Speaker 1: But it's also going to be the Buried Bones podcast. 516 00:31:38,690 --> 00:31:40,670 Speaker 1: That's an Exactly Right Network podcast. And it's going to 517 00:31:40,690 --> 00:31:46,230 Speaker 1: be Wisecrack. Wisecrack is the podcast of the year, last year. 518 00:31:47,290 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: Very big show. Again, Five Night Cruise begins March 20th, 2027. 519 00:31:51,190 --> 00:31:54,870 Speaker 1: There'll be all kinds of stuff going on besides the show. 520 00:31:54,950 --> 00:31:56,450 Speaker 1: I'm going to be hanging out. Zeth's going to be 521 00:31:56,470 --> 00:32:00,130 Speaker 1: hanging out. me all kinds of true crime themed happenings 522 00:32:00,410 --> 00:32:04,210 Speaker 1: on board, podcast recordings, behind the scenes sessions, meet and greets, 523 00:32:04,370 --> 00:32:08,430 Speaker 1: all that stuff. Again, you book now, you're going to 524 00:32:08,490 --> 00:32:13,540 Speaker 1: get $ 1, 000 in instant savings, 70% off your second sailor, 525 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,380 Speaker 1: which is not your first mate, and up to $ 300 526 00:32:16,340 --> 00:32:23,510 Speaker 1: of on board credit. Okay. Go to www.virginvoyages.com slash true crime, 527 00:32:23,770 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: book your ticket, book passage as they say, pick out 528 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,390 Speaker 1: a good Hawaiian shirt, and let's get into this. All right, 529 00:32:31,410 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: I will be back in a flash with your emails. 530 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:50,020 Speaker 1: Don't go anywhere. All right, guys, disgracelandpod at gmail.com. Hit 531 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,340 Speaker 1: me with your emails. This one comes from Neil Gillis. 532 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 1: Neil Gillis, the subject is ranking dread episode. Suggestion, ranking dread. 533 00:32:59,180 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: Story has everything. Sound system, clashes, political riots, fleeing multiple countries, 534 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 1: bringing the yards from Jamaica to the UK, Canada, and US. 535 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 1: And he made great music. Tell me Fatty Boom Boom 536 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:16,540 Speaker 1: is not great music. Rock-a-rola. Ranking dread. Neil, I am. 537 00:33:18,030 --> 00:33:20,250 Speaker 1: Embarrassed to say, I don't know what the hell you're 538 00:33:20,270 --> 00:33:22,830 Speaker 1: talking about, but the passion in this email is such 539 00:33:22,890 --> 00:33:25,290 Speaker 1: that I'm going to note it and I'm going to 540 00:33:25,350 --> 00:33:28,060 Speaker 1: put this on the list. This is something that sounds 541 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,460 Speaker 1: like it would allow us, I need a way into 542 00:33:31,540 --> 00:33:34,900 Speaker 1: Jamaican music that is not Bob Marley or Peter Tosh. 543 00:33:36,180 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 1: And this sounds like it might be it. And I'm 544 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:43,010 Speaker 1: very interested. Robbie Thringwright saying, hey, Jake, it's your neighbor 545 00:33:43,050 --> 00:33:46,209 Speaker 1: in the upstairs apartment. Have you, what, what the fuck 546 00:33:46,230 --> 00:33:48,420 Speaker 1: are you talking about? Robbie goes on to say, have 547 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,550 Speaker 1: you watched Last Stop yet? And no, it's not a 548 00:33:51,590 --> 00:33:54,730 Speaker 1: Western or an old TMC classic. Think more along the 549 00:33:54,770 --> 00:33:58,990 Speaker 1: lines of Tarantino. Just watch it. I guarantee you'll like it. 550 00:33:59,150 --> 00:34:00,630 Speaker 1: If you don't, I'll buy you a pint of moose 551 00:34:00,670 --> 00:34:03,010 Speaker 1: head next time you're in Toronto. Also, oh, I get 552 00:34:03,150 --> 00:34:06,380 Speaker 1: upstairs apartment. Now I get he's in Canada. Robbie, I 553 00:34:06,420 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 1: like how you did that. I like how you did that. 554 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,459 Speaker 1: You didn't explain it. Robbie goes on to say, also 555 00:34:10,500 --> 00:34:12,820 Speaker 1: another point, I just discovered this band, the Silver Apples 556 00:34:12,860 --> 00:34:16,110 Speaker 1: from 1968. They sound like nothing from that era. They 557 00:34:16,150 --> 00:34:18,710 Speaker 1: were so far ahead of their time. It's incredible. They 558 00:34:18,750 --> 00:34:21,340 Speaker 1: were a synth rock band before there was synth. Anyhow, 559 00:34:21,380 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 1: check them out after you've watched The Last Stop. Cheers 560 00:34:23,900 --> 00:34:26,980 Speaker 1: from the 519 in Waterloo, Canada. Love these recommendations. You 561 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,180 Speaker 1: guys are killing it this week. Robbie, great job. Silver Apples, 562 00:34:30,820 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 1: I've heard of them. Never checked them out, but I'm 563 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:37,950 Speaker 1: excited to check them out and do that today, actually. 1968, huh? 564 00:34:38,330 --> 00:34:41,529 Speaker 1: Synth before there was synth. And The Last Stop. You 565 00:34:41,550 --> 00:34:44,469 Speaker 1: didn't give me much to go on here, but... I 566 00:34:44,469 --> 00:34:46,109 Speaker 1: don't know. There's something about the way you wrote this 567 00:34:46,150 --> 00:34:47,509 Speaker 1: that I feel like you're a guy I need to 568 00:34:47,550 --> 00:34:50,009 Speaker 1: pay attention to, Robbie. So I'm going to check out 569 00:34:50,050 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 1: the last stop. All right. At least I'm going to 570 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 1: talk to Zeth about it. See if he's got a take. 571 00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 1: And then I'll dive in. Maybe. Perhaps. I think. Let's see. 572 00:35:01,780 --> 00:35:06,810 Speaker 1: In any event, I really appreciate the message. Disgracelandpod at gmail.com. 573 00:35:06,830 --> 00:35:09,090 Speaker 1: You guys want to hit us up about anything over email, 574 00:35:09,150 --> 00:35:11,850 Speaker 1: that's the way to do it. Heather the Yinzer on 575 00:35:11,910 --> 00:35:14,790 Speaker 1: Patreon writes, Hey, what happened to the old rock stars 576 00:35:15,010 --> 00:35:18,620 Speaker 1: with no fucks to give content? Well, I don't really know. 577 00:35:19,219 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 1: I'm reading this comment out of context, so it's hard 578 00:35:21,620 --> 00:35:22,779 Speaker 1: for me to tell Heather, but I'm going to look 579 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,580 Speaker 1: into that. Pete on Patreon writes, Feast of the Mau 580 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,460 Speaker 1: Mau makes I Put a Spell on You sound like 581 00:35:27,580 --> 00:35:31,650 Speaker 1: a Celine Dion jam. Feast of the Mau Mau is 582 00:35:31,969 --> 00:35:34,190 Speaker 1: a Screamin' Jay Hawkins song, for those of you who 583 00:35:34,270 --> 00:35:37,629 Speaker 1: are interested. Thank you, Pete. Tim on Patreon writes in, hey, 584 00:35:37,790 --> 00:35:40,190 Speaker 1: is it me or does this episode just sound different? 585 00:35:40,230 --> 00:35:44,350 Speaker 1: More natural, less bass or decibels or something. Sounds good, 586 00:35:44,710 --> 00:35:45,310 Speaker 1: just different. 587 00:35:46,070 --> 00:35:46,390 Speaker 3: I don't know. 588 00:35:47,710 --> 00:35:51,509 Speaker 1: Tim, maybe it's your settings or maybe Matt did something different. Matt, 589 00:35:51,530 --> 00:35:54,169 Speaker 1: did you do something different? Let us know. All right, guys, 590 00:35:54,250 --> 00:35:55,770 Speaker 1: it's October. We're nearing the end of the year. We 591 00:35:55,790 --> 00:35:57,549 Speaker 1: got to get together and figure out what episodes we 592 00:35:57,610 --> 00:36:00,509 Speaker 1: are going to produce for next year. This is talking 593 00:36:00,530 --> 00:36:03,319 Speaker 1: directly to the discos who are part of the Sound 594 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:08,140 Speaker 1: and Fury community. membership in our All Access Club. We've 595 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:12,140 Speaker 1: got a episode of this film we have to produce 596 00:36:13,140 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: next week. Perhaps we can hook something up for the 597 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,770 Speaker 1: week after for a Zoom where we can all jump 598 00:36:19,930 --> 00:36:22,290 Speaker 1: on and you can bring your recommendations and we can 599 00:36:22,350 --> 00:36:25,830 Speaker 1: have a more of a sort of organized discussion about 600 00:36:25,870 --> 00:36:29,130 Speaker 1: what we want to produce for next year. We can 601 00:36:29,170 --> 00:36:32,620 Speaker 1: get into that more fully Zeth and I will have 602 00:36:32,660 --> 00:36:35,620 Speaker 1: some information in the Patreon in the coming days about 603 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,819 Speaker 1: when we're going to do this. In the meantime, start 604 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,379 Speaker 1: thinking about what episodes you want us to produce. Come 605 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 1: to this Zoom prepared. Just like Zeth Lundy comes to 606 00:36:46,700 --> 00:36:49,620 Speaker 1: the Hollywoodland feed every week prepared. He's talking to you 607 00:36:49,660 --> 00:36:52,149 Speaker 1: guys in the wrap party, as am I with our recommendations. 608 00:36:52,410 --> 00:36:54,870 Speaker 1: He's talking to you in the screening room, setting up 609 00:36:55,130 --> 00:36:57,839 Speaker 1: our watch for the weekend. And of course, we've got 610 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 1: our archive episode over there as well. Make sure you're 611 00:37:00,020 --> 00:37:05,170 Speaker 1: subscribed to Hollywoodland. Go to Apple Podcasts, Spotify, iHeartRadio app, 612 00:37:05,190 --> 00:37:10,330 Speaker 1: wherever you listen to podcasts. Search Hollywoodland and subscribe. Our 613 00:37:10,430 --> 00:37:14,049 Speaker 1: next episode on this film should be played loud. It's Halloween. 614 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,180 Speaker 1: So we're going to be doing Shaun of the Dead, 615 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,620 Speaker 1: which was a recommendation from a bunch of you guys 616 00:37:19,820 --> 00:37:22,840 Speaker 1: over on Patreon. Like I said, we're going to be 617 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 1: filming that next week, I believe. Yeah, next week, I think. 618 00:37:28,370 --> 00:37:29,910 Speaker 1: Coming up though, that's coming up end of the month. 619 00:37:31,050 --> 00:37:32,989 Speaker 1: You want in on all this all access action, you 620 00:37:33,010 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 1: got to go to disgracelandpod.com to sign up to become 621 00:37:35,780 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 1: an all access member. You're going to get this film 622 00:37:38,580 --> 00:37:42,239 Speaker 1: should be played loud. That's our monthly video podcast. You're 623 00:37:42,900 --> 00:37:44,400 Speaker 1: going to be able to chime in with us, get 624 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,370 Speaker 1: on a Zoom, talk to me, talk to Zeth, talk 625 00:37:47,390 --> 00:37:51,130 Speaker 1: to us, recommendations, give us your thoughts on episodes, subjects 626 00:37:51,170 --> 00:37:54,930 Speaker 1: we should be covering directly, influence the programming here. Go 627 00:37:54,950 --> 00:38:00,340 Speaker 1: to disgracelandpod.com to sign up. and to unlock ad-free listening 628 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 1: and also exclusive content like the conversations Zeth and I 629 00:38:04,340 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 1: are about to have right now. All right, back after this. 630 00:38:15,790 --> 00:38:20,380 Speaker 1: All right, guys, we're about to get out of here. 631 00:38:20,410 --> 00:38:23,180 Speaker 1: Before we do, just your weekly reminder that we have 632 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,299 Speaker 1: for just mainly for new listeners, but also for some 633 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:31,440 Speaker 1: of the loyal listeners long-time listeners. We're coming up on 634 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:36,859 Speaker 1: 300 episodes of Disgraceland, massive archive stories on so many 635 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:40,660 Speaker 1: different musical artists from so many different genres. Hit me up, 636 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 1: disgracelandpod at gmail.com, 617-906-6638, voicemail and text at disgracelandpod on 637 00:38:46,620 --> 00:38:50,060 Speaker 1: the socials if you have questions about your favorite artists 638 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,379 Speaker 1: and whether or not we've covered them and I can 639 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,970 Speaker 1: point you in the right direction. In our massive archive. 640 00:38:55,989 --> 00:38:57,250 Speaker 1: All right, let's recap before we get out of here. 641 00:38:57,270 --> 00:38:59,380 Speaker 1: Number one, this week, our new episode on Screaming Jay Hawkins. 642 00:38:59,390 --> 00:39:01,500 Speaker 1: That's available for you to listen to right now. Number two, 643 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 1: in the rewind slot this weekend, our classic episode on Eminem. 644 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 1: Number three, next week coming at you, our new episode 645 00:39:07,260 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 1: on As I Lay Dying. Four, Seth's going to give 646 00:39:09,980 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 1: you those Hollywood and crime vibes in the Hollywoodland feed. 647 00:39:12,700 --> 00:39:15,190 Speaker 1: So make sure that you're subscribed. And I'll be giving 648 00:39:15,210 --> 00:39:17,890 Speaker 1: you my music recommendations over there in the wrap party. 649 00:39:17,930 --> 00:39:20,070 Speaker 1: Number five, this film should be played loud. Our video 650 00:39:20,090 --> 00:39:22,969 Speaker 1: podcast episode on Gross Point Blank is available for you 651 00:39:23,010 --> 00:39:25,839 Speaker 1: right now. Go to disgracelandpod.com to sign up to become 652 00:39:25,860 --> 00:39:29,100 Speaker 1: an all access member and unlock exclusive content just like this, 653 00:39:29,540 --> 00:39:34,259 Speaker 1: along with ad free listening. Number six, six, one, seven, nine, oh, six, six, six, three, eight. 654 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,090 Speaker 1: Your voice keeps us digging into the dark corners of 655 00:39:36,110 --> 00:39:38,730 Speaker 1: music history. So keep calling, keep texting with your answers 656 00:39:38,750 --> 00:39:40,750 Speaker 1: to this week's question of the week or whatever else 657 00:39:40,790 --> 00:39:42,630 Speaker 1: you want to talk about. Number seven, don't forget discos. 658 00:39:42,650 --> 00:39:45,430 Speaker 1: This isn't just content. It's a community, a community of 659 00:39:45,450 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 1: the obsessed. And no one cares about music books, records, 660 00:39:47,980 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 1: and the crime and grime that ties them all together 661 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,700 Speaker 1: like you do. And well, that's a disgrace. All right, 662 00:39:52,739 --> 00:39:56,590 Speaker 1: back on February 12, 2000, Screamin' Jay Hawkins died. And 663 00:39:56,610 --> 00:39:58,810 Speaker 1: this is what America was listening to on that day, 664 00:39:58,910 --> 00:40:02,529 Speaker 1: according to the Billboard charts. Number one, I Knew I 665 00:40:02,570 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 1: Loved You, Savage Garden. Last week, one. Peak position, one. 666 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:12,180 Speaker 1: Weeks on chart, 17. Number two, Thank God I Found You, 667 00:40:12,489 --> 00:40:17,430 Speaker 1: Maria Carey featuring Joe in 98 Degrees. Last week, 22. 668 00:40:17,430 --> 00:40:22,590 Speaker 1: Peak position, two. Weeks on chart, Montana. Number three, What 669 00:40:22,610 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 1: a Girl Wants, Christina Aguilera. Last week, two. Peak position, one. 670 00:40:28,300 --> 00:40:32,799 Speaker 1: Weeks on chart, 12. Number four, Get It On Tonight, 671 00:40:32,820 --> 00:40:38,400 Speaker 1: Montel Jordan. Last week, five. Peak position, four. Weeks on chart, 672 00:40:38,460 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 1: last week. Number five. Quit talking and start mixing. 673 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:44,339 Speaker 3: Cut it.