Speaker 1: Warning this episode canday spoilers for Arcane season two at two.
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Speaker 2: In today's episode in the Airlock, we are recapping Arcade
Speaker 2: season two at two, episodes four, five and six and
Speaker 2: what episodes they were. Wow, what a come up for us.
Speaker 2: Incredible stuff. And then we'll be having a little discussion
Speaker 2: about what we think works so well about these episodes,
Speaker 2: where we think that and could go as it comes
Speaker 2: to the series end, and the characters that we love
Speaker 2: hate we need to apologize to and who have the
Speaker 2: best haircuts. We're beginning with Arcane season two, episode four,
Speaker 2: Paint the Town Blue, which begins with a song we
Speaker 2: were talking about last week in our coverage. A big
Speaker 2: time jump here, definitely like at least a few months
Speaker 2: and three four months, I think, And if we were
Speaker 2: complaining last week about how the music videos at the
Speaker 2: beginning did not push the story forward. It's almost like
Speaker 2: our answers are given here because these ones are very
Speaker 2: informative narratively. We begin Wheel Drops, a great needle drop,
Speaker 2: very Jinx coded music video, the youth of Zorna fighting
Speaker 2: back against the enforcers who were enacting horrific police brutality
Speaker 2: against them. People are dyeing their hair blue in a
Speaker 2: very Spartacus moment to kind of show their support for Jinks.
Speaker 2: Caitlin upstairs is sulking and just obsessed with finding Jinks,
Speaker 2: also sharing a bed with junior Officer Maddy Nolan.
Speaker 3: Here we go Backstabba. She's talking to Buy telling her
Speaker 3: you're an icon. At the moment she's gone, she's in
Speaker 3: the bed.
Speaker 1: Here's the issue with Caitlin. We all know a person
Speaker 1: like this. She can't be alone. She needs to take
Speaker 1: a second to figure out who the fuck she is
Speaker 1: because she's just getting played left, right and center all
Speaker 1: the time, and clearly she needs a time out on
Speaker 1: just jumping into the sack with other people because to
Speaker 1: distract herself, to distract yourself from what's going on, because
Speaker 1: it's like it's just it's ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we in the under City, we are really
Speaker 2: getting an idea of how Piltovera's rain is affecting the
Speaker 2: people who live down And if if you thought last
Speaker 2: week me and Jason were a little bit harsh against
Speaker 2: the Undersea, we are here to say this because we
Speaker 2: just really did not get the narrative weight of what
Speaker 2: was occurring down there.
Speaker 1: This was the most effective you know, storytelling execution of
Speaker 1: the oppressed relationship, the oppressive relationship.
Speaker 2: This is your and or one way out. This is
Speaker 2: where you get to learn, Oh, these are the people
Speaker 2: who are being harmed, the everyday people. Really, these are
Speaker 2: not the Ken Barons. These are the people who live
Speaker 2: in the under City. And we get to see Jinks here,
Speaker 2: who's now looking after Isha. Dyes Isha's hair blue because
Speaker 2: that's all Lisha wants to look like Jinks. But Jinks
Speaker 2: is like, that person is dead. I'm not Powder, I'm
Speaker 2: not Jinx anymore. But we know that's not true. And
Speaker 2: Bessa's scientists, meanwhile, I'm experimenting with hextech. Jason Heimerdinger have disappeared.
Speaker 2: Where are where are they? And U and Bessa blames
Speaker 2: the Black Rose, who also have mel which we know,
Speaker 2: you know she knows a bit more about than expected.
Speaker 2: After an incident at a border check point, this is
Speaker 2: where we start to get some real brute or stuff.
Speaker 2: Kaitlin and Junior Officer Maddy Nolan suspect Jinx has inspired copycats,
Speaker 2: which she has, and Bessa shows up and is basically like,
Speaker 2: stop sleeping with Junior Officer Maddy Nolan, Like what are
Speaker 2: you doing? Like have it? Don't get professionally entangled with
Speaker 2: an enforcer who could kill or die either way. Not
Speaker 2: looking great. Caitlin and am Bessa argue about whether ensuring
Speaker 2: peace is justification for violence and author authoritarianism. Spoiler alert,
Speaker 2: it's not, because that's not a real kind of piece.
Speaker 2: Then we get to join back with one of our
Speaker 2: favorite characters, Savika, who has a great new haircut and
Speaker 2: comes to visit Jinks. She's basically given her the Hunger
Speaker 2: Game speech. She's like, you are a symbol. Now you
Speaker 2: can do what Silko could never do, which is you
Speaker 2: can unite the under City. Come to the rally at
Speaker 2: Vander's statue, firelight spoons Jinxes everyone, and we are gonna
Speaker 2: make this happen. We're gonna unite the under sea and
Speaker 2: we're going to free them from the tyranny of Piltover forever.
Speaker 2: And Jinx is like, okay, I got to go talk
Speaker 2: to someone. She thinks she's talking to Silko, but it's
Speaker 2: really just Silko's old chair. That's a very heartfelt moment, actually,
Speaker 2: and it kind of makes her realize that Silko is
Speaker 2: truly gone. There's not even a ghost of Silko talking
Speaker 2: to her anymore. This is this is her journey now.
Speaker 2: Everyone spends the evening morning they're dead, except Ricus and Sevika,
Speaker 2: who are torturing a prisoner you know, wonderful times. They
Speaker 2: eventually give up the location of the rally, and at
Speaker 2: the rally, the crowd wants Jinx, but Eha shows up
Speaker 2: with a blue flair and everyone rallies together. But Rictus
Speaker 2: and his enforcers show up and some enforces corn Corner singed,
Speaker 2: but he leaves behind a little a cult bit of
Speaker 2: blood magic for his monster to follow. This was a
Speaker 2: cool sequence. Yeah, this was a really really cool sequence.
Speaker 2: I love the way that this once again kind of
Speaker 2: hints to the wider magic of like ruine terror, because
Speaker 2: it isn't just a cut in his hand. It looks
Speaker 2: like it's kind of some kind of a cult pattern.
Speaker 2: And we go back and Savika says, look, the enforcers
Speaker 2: took Esha. We gotta go save her. Jinks and Sevika
Speaker 2: break into still Water freer group of all night prisoners. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Love a prison break. Yeah, and Jinx realizes like, oh,
Speaker 2: I am the big dumb hero. Yeah, here I am.
Speaker 1: Here I am, And then she realized, wait, hold on
Speaker 1: a second. I love that moment because it's there, like
Speaker 1: she tries to play it off, but the way people
Speaker 1: are looking at her, it's like, holy shit, you actually
Speaker 1: did come to like get us out of prison.
Speaker 2: Holy shit. Yeah. Great moment of humanity here with the
Speaker 2: connection between like Jinx and Isha and kind of this
Speaker 2: idea of Jinx as the older sister now, which I
Speaker 2: think is really sweet and moving, and there is a
Speaker 2: lot of good stuff here, really kind of I came
Speaker 2: away from this episode actually feeling like, oh, I got
Speaker 2: like duped by Piltover propaganda in the first three episodes
Speaker 2: of this season, and I feel like the show does
Speaker 2: a really good job pulling that out from under your feet,
Speaker 2: where they're like, actually, we're gonna now zoom out and
Speaker 2: show you that this is so much more complicated than
Speaker 2: you thought it was.
Speaker 1: I don't disagree with you. I think that that's uh,
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's pilt over propaganda. And it's also like,
Speaker 1: we should have just spent more time down here. I
Speaker 1: should have spent our time. Absolutely, we should have spent
Speaker 1: more time down here with people that weren't the Ken Barons.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, yeah, people who weren't like horribly doing awful experiences, the.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, this is this is this really grounds the
Speaker 1: story in the actual suffering of the people who are
Speaker 1: living her.
Speaker 2: It's great. Yeah, And then we get, in my opinion,
Speaker 2: one of the coolest moments from the whole series so far,
Speaker 2: where the beast senses and smells the blood and heads
Speaker 2: towards the prison and just absolutely decimates and destroys the enforces,
Speaker 2: and it is a huge, monstrous kind of were wolf
Speaker 2: with the eyes looking like bloody eyes, and we get
Speaker 2: a POV where it's this gorgeous slow animation or was red.
Speaker 2: It looks so great, and Jinx pushes each out the way,
Speaker 2: and just as it's about to kill her, it recognizes
Speaker 2: her and speak and if you don't, if you don't
Speaker 2: recognize that voice. The closed captions tell us that it's Warwick,
Speaker 2: who many fans have been wondering about, and here he is.
Speaker 2: But who is Warwick? Well, we'll get into that when
Speaker 2: we go into the second recap after a message from
Speaker 2: us points and we're back with Arcade Season two, episode five,
Speaker 2: Blisters and Bedrock starts with another needle drop that and
Speaker 2: music video that actually pushes the story forward and tell
Speaker 2: another exactly where Violet's been. You might have been wondering
Speaker 2: where's Violet. That's our main character. Where's she been? What's
Speaker 2: she doing? Well, guess what. She's here with her new
Speaker 2: best friend, nameless shield guy and friend. What a friend
Speaker 2: he is? He is actually a great friend. This is
Speaker 2: like the equivalent of when you make a friend in
Speaker 2: the girl's bathroom and they're like, you look so beautiful,
Speaker 2: you look so great, like borrow my lipstick, dump your boyfriend,
Speaker 2: and then you're still friends with them, like ten years later.
Speaker 1: He is it's unclear. It's unclear if he ever speaks.
Speaker 1: He just like takes make sure she gets home.
Speaker 2: Gives her like an eyebrow of like, are you doing
Speaker 2: the right thing? How's it going? I mean, she is
Speaker 2: not going doing okay. She has taken on. She's like
Speaker 2: a crow like visage emo Violet or is a super producer.
Speaker 2: Aaron calls her Violet at the disco, which I think
Speaker 2: is pretty good. She is beating the shit out of everyone.
Speaker 2: She is part of a fight club. She is getting
Speaker 2: drunk all the time, and she is just like beating
Speaker 2: the ship out and she is very hungover with her
Speaker 2: crow like makeup, and suddenly the worst thing that could
Speaker 2: happen when you're hungover, your annoying younger sister who's also
Speaker 2: your nemesis in a ongoing battle between your two sides
Speaker 2: of the city is there and she's like, guess what, bro,
Speaker 2: She's like, your dad's still alive and he's a werewolf. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And Violet is like, what the fuck are you talking about?
Speaker 2: Not stop lying violence, Scott. I hate bad attitude. I
Speaker 2: know she's going through it, but she's got a bad attitude.
Speaker 2: And Jinks is really coming across as Violet almost kills
Speaker 2: Jinks in this moment, and.
Speaker 1: This is sister's stuff. I love them together. I think
Speaker 1: them together is awesome. There just feels like there's more chemistry.
Speaker 1: The voice acting feels more passionate, and it feels very
Speaker 1: sister coded to me. I had friends. Yeah, some of
Speaker 1: the craziest sibling fights I've ever seen in my life
Speaker 1: bar nuns, like knock down, drag out, like gripping each
Speaker 1: other's hair, throwing lamps at each other, like truly the
Speaker 1: craziest fights. And then they'd be OK.
Speaker 2: They just be fine. They're like, oh no, this is
Speaker 2: my best thie. Well, two people who are not fine
Speaker 2: and are in the wake of a terrible sister esque defeat.
Speaker 2: I'm Bessa in Caitlin. Caitlyn now wearing a full on
Speaker 2: like evil vampire class. Absolutely, she's just like going on
Speaker 2: with k She's like, if you didn't know she's taken
Speaker 2: a turn to the dark side, now you do thanks
Speaker 2: to the cloak. They survey the damage at the prison.
Speaker 2: There is multiple dead bodies of enforcers, lots of blood everywhere,
Speaker 2: and they find sin she still locked in the cell,
Speaker 2: and am Bessar is like, yo, what's going on? Tell
Speaker 2: us about this magical monster, and he came for you.
Speaker 2: What's going on? Mel awaken in a mysterious kind of
Speaker 2: strange locale, covered in sweat and bugs, coughing up rose
Speaker 2: petals in a rose shaped shell. So I guess I'm
Speaker 2: best it was right. I guess it is these black
Speaker 2: roses the ochlorium. And it seems she has a cell mate,
Speaker 2: her brother Keino, whoa look keinot barely recognizes her. He's
Speaker 2: obviously been there a long time, and he explains that
Speaker 2: to Mel that their mother had an affair. She bore
Speaker 2: a child, and their captors are after that child for
Speaker 2: nefarious reasons. That's right, and shouts to Mel. He's like,
Speaker 2: that doesn't sound like mom, but apparently it's true. You
Speaker 2: think too much of your mum. Mel. I gotta say,
Speaker 2: you're a sweet guy, but you Mel and Keino back together.
Speaker 2: Love to see it. I hope this ends well for
Speaker 2: both of them, jinks. Violet and Issha. Meanwhile, head down
Speaker 2: some mining tunnels with little clap on mushroom lights. Very
Speaker 2: cute aesthetic. There she lost saw Vander. They are quarreling.
Speaker 2: Jinx is making fun of violets. This is a good line, Jason,
Speaker 2: You know this line. Yeah, the impression you're overgrown bitchmin's
Speaker 2: you need to build yourself. Wow? Okay, mean, but I
Speaker 2: like it. Okay. Violet is moved by Jinx's care for
Speaker 2: is shat definitely kind of reminds her of the humanity.
Speaker 2: That reminds her of her relationship with before it all
Speaker 2: went to hell. Back in still war Am Bessar is
Speaker 2: like still on Cinge. She wants to know she's interested
Speaker 2: in Warwick. I think Ambssa is like, I would like
Speaker 2: one of these for my armies. Oh yeah, that's definitely
Speaker 2: really that's that's clearly what she probably want. A hydred yeah,
Speaker 2: And turns out that Cinch has been experimenting on Vanda
Speaker 2: for a very long time. Caitlin does some digging and
Speaker 2: finds out Cinged is a Dr Revec, the Discrace Academy
Speaker 2: scientist who invented Shimmer. I mean which, Caitlyn, she's ready
Speaker 2: to She's ready to kill him because she's just like
Speaker 2: I've been I fucking hate this guy. I hate Shimmer.
Speaker 2: She's away. Just when I thought the z Night animals
Speaker 2: couldn't stupidly lower, I find out this fu this like
Speaker 2: chill out, Caitlyn, come on, come on, babe. Within his lab,
Speaker 2: he takes them to a secret room with his daughter,
Speaker 2: Captain Stasi's very door. Mister Freeze of him Anna, he's
Speaker 2: been trying to cure of death. Here we go again.
Speaker 2: A mad scientist.
Speaker 1: Guys, mad scientists, will.
Speaker 2: You just quit with this already? It's mad to go well,
Speaker 2: it's never gonna go. Well, that's gonna work. A teenage
Speaker 2: girl whoa a parable about this like one hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty years ago. Guys, it's not gonna happen. Yeah, come on.
Speaker 2: Mel starts seeing patterns in the markings of the wall
Speaker 2: of the ock Alorum. Her brother warns against it, and
Speaker 2: he is like, bro, this is You're gonna go crazy
Speaker 2: in here because I went crazy in here. She slams
Speaker 2: her head against the walls, knowing, dunt dunt dune. It's
Speaker 2: not the real Keno.
Speaker 4: I love.
Speaker 2: That was real. That was thrown to me. Me too.
Speaker 2: I did not see that coming. That's if. That felt
Speaker 2: like a huge moment where I was like, oh, this
Speaker 2: is gonna go like finally, like a little bit of luck. No,
Speaker 2: he turns into black Rose magic and absorbs her, terrifying
Speaker 2: Mel is trapped within the vines, but then explodes in
Speaker 2: a mysterious flash of light. Jinks, Vi and Isha find
Speaker 2: an old room of Vander and Silko's with a message
Speaker 2: that Vander wrote to Silko apologizing well, would have been
Speaker 2: good to know that, truly information we could have used
Speaker 2: like much earlier on. Warwick finds them and attacks v Done.
Speaker 2: Done done. Flashback to Vander and Silko at the Last
Speaker 2: Drop with Felicia. Turns out Felicia is pregnant with a girl, Violet.
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not knocked I'm knocked up, which is
Speaker 2: crazy incredible. She's worried about raising a child in Vorn,
Speaker 2: but tells Vander and Silko they're not allowed to fail anymore.
Speaker 2: They have to succeed for her daughter. Blisters in bedrop.
Speaker 2: What are we some kind of suicide squash? I love that?
Speaker 2: In Pitch Darkness, Jinx pulls out a lighter and she
Speaker 2: sees Warwick embracing Violet. He actually wasn't attacking her. Jinx
Speaker 2: joins them, and okay, this one you're gonna get a
Speaker 2: bit emotional hair. Also, like, I feel like having a
Speaker 2: dad who's like a If I found out that my
Speaker 2: like very flowed dad who kind of became this like
Speaker 2: mythic figure was actually still alive and a were wolf,
Speaker 2: I think that's like kind of a best case scenario. Honestly,
Speaker 2: So I was like I was saying, like, cool, I'm
Speaker 2: into it. This really, this was this huge, huge yeah.
Speaker 2: And also for fan theorists, this is a long time
Speaker 2: theory that in the game you never know who Warwick
Speaker 2: was originally, but there are flashbacks and they confirm here
Speaker 2: that he is Vander and that's been being theorized, I
Speaker 2: think for since the show came out, So that's a
Speaker 2: pretty big one for that. We were right, Gang, so
Speaker 2: good to good for you if you had that theory.
Speaker 2: We love a correct fan theory. And finally, in a
Speaker 2: room where Jace, Echo and Heimerdinger disappeared our favorite trio,
Speaker 2: we now see Silo walking with with some telltale signs
Speaker 2: that he has visited Jesus. Victor jeesez.
Speaker 1: He's got all the Jesus metal on his face and
Speaker 1: he looks absolutely perfect and glowing.
Speaker 2: I mean he's looking happy and then hot, sweaty. I
Speaker 2: like bearded Jason. This is like he is no longer
Speaker 2: the good boy I like, who just follows orders. He
Speaker 2: has got a hex crystal now imbued in his wrist.
Speaker 2: Victor then speaks through Salo's body stuff he's given and
Speaker 2: Hex tech to the people, but Jase's like bro was
Speaker 2: meant to do as we always wanted to do. Jase's like, Noah, man,
Speaker 2: I touched the arcade and it's bad. I saw and
Speaker 2: I was like, this is bad, bro, Like what have
Speaker 2: we done? And he can't let Sailo leave with the
Speaker 2: canisters of the hex Tech goop. He brings the hammer
Speaker 2: down on Sailo. And that's the end of Arcane season two,
Speaker 2: episode five, and the end of our recap for now,
Speaker 2: as we go to a message from our sponsors. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: season two, episode six. The message hid him within the pattern.
Speaker 2: So we're gonna get quite deep into the law side
Speaker 2: of which I think people have been waiting for here.
Speaker 2: So now Sky, poor old dead Sky, who is kind
Speaker 2: of haunting Victor Or, who is Victor's like ghostly girlfriend.
Speaker 2: I don't know, Yah, part of the ghost part lover part.
Speaker 2: I'm not judging. I'm not judging. But they're watching Jason
Speaker 2: in Jace. They sense flawless, exquisite chaos. I mean, come on, guys,
Speaker 2: Like I feel like Sky is almost like a She's
Speaker 2: like a heterosexual pushing ghost. I'm like, we all know
Speaker 2: that Victor and Jase are clearly the ship pre that's
Speaker 2: that's clearly the endgames.
Speaker 1: If I could say one thing, Victor, the voice actor
Speaker 1: who does Victor sounds with the accent he's using for
Speaker 1: Victor sounds so much like for people who have played Skyrim,
Speaker 1: sounds so much like the mage of White Run, who
Speaker 1: is you know, off to the right side of the
Speaker 1: Throne room where you go and get missions from him.
Speaker 1: It was so weird for me to be like, God,
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm I'm hanging with the major White Run.
Speaker 1: It's so crazy. Not the same voice actor. I looked
Speaker 1: it up, but still, it's the vibe, it's the tone
Speaker 1: of voice. It sounds so eerily the same.
Speaker 2: Well, we're about to go and see Okay, Aaron, I
Speaker 2: got to give you all the credit for this one,
Speaker 2: because we should have been calling her this all the time.
Speaker 2: We go to see Abs Bessa, because those Abs are popplin.
Speaker 2: She is this hensiest person in the whole of Rune Terror.
Speaker 2: At this point, she is buff and she's training Caitlyn
Speaker 2: in martial arts. This two is a terrible pair I
Speaker 2: just have to say, terrible pairing. Only bad stuff are
Speaker 2: going to happen from this Caitlin, you didn't even want
Speaker 2: this job like two days ago, and yes, four months later,
Speaker 2: you have just been manipulated.
Speaker 1: Also, Caitlyn, what is going on here? So you're Caitlin's
Speaker 1: worldview is that if somebody can beat me up, they
Speaker 1: must know more than me and be wiser than me.
Speaker 2: I have to say that is actually definitely very consistent
Speaker 2: to Arn. Yeah, well, I like that. That's really good.
Speaker 2: And Bessa has now kind of taken quite a liking
Speaker 2: to her. There's clearly a little bit of maternal feeling there.
Speaker 2: Singe this tracking Warick to zorn Oh, because we know
Speaker 2: that vi jinx Isha and Warick are going to visit Victor.
Speaker 2: This could all end badly. Who's now obviously he's known
Speaker 2: as the Herald, we call him Jesus Victor. They find
Speaker 2: a settlement with houses and people and fruit and colorful bank.
Speaker 2: That sounds good. I'm like, this is the utopia that
Speaker 2: Piltover was promising. I think Victor is expecting them, even Warick.
Speaker 2: Victor touches his forehead and enters his mind, but Warick's
Speaker 2: animal side fights back. Victor saw their father and spoke
Speaker 2: with him, and Victor can help. Now we get a
Speaker 2: little music video of Victor trying to reach Vander while
Speaker 2: he and Sky work inside Warick's mind. There's another useful
Speaker 2: narrative music video.
Speaker 1: I completely agree.
Speaker 2: Issha brings him food and water and we get a
Speaker 2: gorgeous watercolor background of Violet and Powder's child loved this.
Speaker 2: I say, so good, so fucking good, and the family
Speaker 2: and the fans are gonna love it because today I
Speaker 2: saw the most I actually was actually so weird because
Speaker 2: I just finished watching these episodes again and I saw
Speaker 2: the most beautiful, like watercolor style Renaissance portrait of Vander,
Speaker 2: Powder and Violet, and I was like, whoa whoever drew
Speaker 2: this is like so on the nose for where this
Speaker 2: is going. And Violet is actually like making sense for
Speaker 2: the first time. She's like, what if we just stay here?
Speaker 2: Isn't this kind of chill, like no beef? Like this
Speaker 2: seems good? But Alas Singed and his army even forces
Speaker 2: arrive at the Herald settlement. Cinge offers to go speak
Speaker 2: with the Herald instead of starting things off with violence.
Speaker 2: Bam Bessa is like, I'm ready in the forces, baby,
Speaker 2: like they're Naxi and forces are here. Cingh can tell
Speaker 2: that Victor's power is essentially fine, and when he touches
Speaker 2: Victor's hand, Victor in sky get a peek inside of
Speaker 2: his head. Cinch reveals that Warwick could restore Victor using
Speaker 2: Apex Shimmer mixed with the apex form of Hextech. Sounds bad,
Speaker 2: big choice to make here. Clearly this will not be
Speaker 2: good for a war work if he decides to go
Speaker 2: this route. I just wouldn't listen to Cinged. I'd be like, bro,
Speaker 2: I just I'm just not gonna listen to you. How
Speaker 2: about that? Victor will not sacrifice? Fandis humanity humanity for singe? Discuse?
Speaker 2: Because Victor is like, he's a good guy, even if
Speaker 2: he's like a complex guy going around giving people hex
Speaker 2: Tech even as he threatens the community. Violet follows Cinged out.
Speaker 2: She's finally like, Violet, just use your weapons on this man, Like,
Speaker 2: use your punches on this man. How about that? Oh?
Speaker 2: But she's ambushed by bloody Caitlin, who now also, I
Speaker 2: don't buy this, Like Caitlin had like three months of
Speaker 2: training and now she's better fighter than I. Don't. I
Speaker 2: don't think so, I don't I don't buy that. The
Speaker 2: only thing that I could think is maybe VI you
Speaker 2: know the we don't know how long they were there,
Speaker 2: that's true. And also By has been drinking. She hasn't
Speaker 2: been keeping up a healthy life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think she was in a maybe she
Speaker 1: wasn't combat ready at this particular moment, because I didn't
Speaker 1: quite buy it either.
Speaker 2: Caitlin is like a badass, but at least you get
Speaker 2: cool fight, which we love. And uh, Caitlin reveals that
Speaker 2: they're tracking a beast. We obviously know who that is.
Speaker 2: Cinge claims that he can craft a serum to prohibit
Speaker 2: Victor's success, which like, surely just let Victor help these people, guys,
Speaker 2: And then Caitlin captures Viola silly idea and takes her
Speaker 2: to the war room with Ambssa, Richts and Cinch. I'm like, Caitlin,
Speaker 2: these are your allies now, Like this is not good
Speaker 2: for you, babe, this is bad time. Singe and Caitlin
Speaker 2: sneak into the holding area for Warrior, while Jay sneaks
Speaker 2: into the settlement and Bessa is waxing poetic with Viola
Speaker 2: and turns out Kaitlyn and Viola I love the fast one.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm Bessa. I did not see this coming. I
Speaker 2: didn't see it coming. See this coming.
Speaker 1: I did not see it coming at all. And I
Speaker 1: have to say, Violet almost blew it. She kind of
Speaker 1: acknowledges it by saying, like the last thing is like
Speaker 1: shut the fuck up, because her talking like almost blew
Speaker 1: the ambush.
Speaker 2: But it was I did not see this coming. Was perfect.
Speaker 2: I thought this was really really good and it did
Speaker 2: make me feel a little bit bad how much I
Speaker 2: had judged Caitlin. But I will say, well, I think,
Speaker 2: you know what, I just think that this is like
Speaker 2: proof of how good these three episodes are because I
Speaker 2: was getting twisted and turned emotionally.
Speaker 1: And here's the thing about Kingbrey. Here's the thing about Caitlin.
Speaker 1: We've we've said she's not she's the type of person
Speaker 1: who cannot be alone. She's also the type of person
Speaker 1: who whoever she is with in that moment has tremendous
Speaker 1: influence over what she's going to do next. I think, like,
Speaker 1: obviously this was within her and shouts to her for
Speaker 1: making the right decision and for taking a courageous decision.
Speaker 1: But if she doesn't encounter VI on this mission to
Speaker 1: get the beast, I think she just goes through with everything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she ambs and Ricks wanted to do.
Speaker 2: But it's like you said, she needs to spend some time.
Speaker 2: She needs to go to the SPA and just like
Speaker 2: figure out who's Caitlin without Vie, Who's Caitlin without AMBSSA.
Speaker 2: But yeah, so this was a great twist. I got twisted.
Speaker 2: Caitlyn gets a jumped on jump on singe. Rictus follows
Speaker 2: Caitlin and attacks her, but she is saved by Jinks, which,
Speaker 2: of course we'll have huge dramifications going forward. Great Jinks
Speaker 2: and Richt's fight here. Richtus has the upper hand, but
Speaker 2: Vanda saves her. Of course we get that's a fantastic moment.
Speaker 2: Now we see hot Jase and he's stumbling through the
Speaker 2: settlement almost to chat to a child again, but stops himself,
Speaker 2: thank god, because he made that mistake before the child
Speaker 2: takes him to Victor. That's a mistake on the child's path. Yes,
Speaker 2: because Jase activates his hex crystal and shoots a massive
Speaker 2: beam of energy through Victor. Very sad times. That was
Speaker 2: your bro, that could have been a romance. I don't
Speaker 2: know what you're doing there. I understand that you're trying
Speaker 2: to save the day from the arcane, but I feel
Speaker 2: like you. I was heartbroken. In this moment, everyone who
Speaker 2: has been healed by Victor drops lifelessly and starts to
Speaker 2: emit a high pitched scream in a very haunting moment
Speaker 2: that I feel like is very evocative of like a
Speaker 2: invasion of the body snatches, like a kind of hive
Speaker 2: mind situation where maybe Victor wasn't really healing these people
Speaker 2: so much as almost like possessing them. Yeah, because it
Speaker 2: seems like when he was hit and they were all
Speaker 2: suddenly an antagonized agency less moment. Fiji's Caitlin leave the greenhouse,
Speaker 2: see everyone in agony, and Warick emerges full of rage
Speaker 2: with fire pouring from his body. Sure fireware Wolf, I
Speaker 2: love this. He brutally murders Rictus and Bess arrives and
Speaker 2: leads charge on the settlement. In his rage, Warwick hits Jinks.
Speaker 2: Don't do that, bad dad. Move. Isha pulls out the
Speaker 2: crystal she took from these gauntlets earlier, charges into the fray,
Speaker 2: grabs Jinx's gun and detonates it like a bomb right
Speaker 2: right under, which looks like bad for everyone involved. And Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't I don't love I don't love Isha's Isha's
Speaker 2: chances going forward for the last three episodes.
Speaker 1: Yes, let's talk about that's I think this is probably
Speaker 1: it for Isha, right I.
Speaker 2: I worry? Yeah. I felt like after an after a
Speaker 2: series episodes where I was like incredibly moved and interested
Speaker 2: in the way that they were representing the under cities
Speaker 2: fight against Piltover, this was like a very bleak, sad
Speaker 2: ending that. It also feels like has like I would
Speaker 2: be wary of using like a real analogy to do
Speaker 2: with this, because I think that's very like kind of
Speaker 2: Isha is a kid. But yeah, it doesn't look like
Speaker 2: they're going to be around. But you know what, I
Speaker 2: got twisted and turned so much this episode, Like I
Speaker 2: was somebody ringing me out like laundry. So maybe maybe
Speaker 2: there's a world where someone manages to protect Isha, maybe
Speaker 2: even Warwick himself. I don't know, but yeah, not looking
Speaker 2: good for Isha. Let's okay, So let's talk about Let's
Speaker 2: talk about these three episodes compared to the first three
Speaker 2: episodes of season two, which we definitely had some critiques
Speaker 2: on with pacing and the thematically, but it feels like
Speaker 2: a lot of our criticisms from the first act were
Speaker 2: really answered in this second act.
Speaker 1: I completely that's it was almost eerie watching them mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Pacing was amazing, like we're directly into every scene, moving
Speaker 1: the story forward, moving the story on whatever subplot is
Speaker 1: being depicted forward like every it just felt like there's
Speaker 1: tremendous momentum. The needle drops, I think these are the great,
Speaker 1: the best needle drops in the whole series.
Speaker 2: Like they were amazing, like that deeply connected to the story.
Speaker 2: They push it forward. Also, I would say something that
Speaker 2: I felt like worked really well here was the more
Speaker 2: obvious narrative about the oppression in Yes zorn it with Piltover.
Speaker 2: We had like a couple of discord users. Always as
Speaker 2: long as we're civil, we always welcome civil disagreements, And
Speaker 2: we had some really great, thoughtful critiques of our read
Speaker 2: of the first few episodes, and you know what I
Speaker 2: feel like again those critiques that we had, and then
Speaker 2: the critiques of our critiques were answered in this because
Speaker 2: I feel like, narratively, this is the first time we
Speaker 2: are getting a more three dimensional look at the under city,
Speaker 2: at Jinks, at what drives her, at the relationships that
Speaker 2: have led to this rebellion. Because usually we if you've
Speaker 2: listened to xtravision, you know we're usually on the side
Speaker 2: of a rebellion. But I feel like this is the
Speaker 2: first time that we really got to look at the
Speaker 2: cost of how Piltover lives. And I felt like also
Speaker 2: that it's really funny because it's very rare that with
Speaker 2: any kind of show, I feel like a shorter runtime works.
Speaker 2: But these episodes were just like NonStop action, NonStop emotional hits,
Speaker 2: NonStop power, and they were all like ten minute show off.
Speaker 4: This is the first.
Speaker 1: These three episodes are the first. Are really the first
Speaker 1: time that we spend significant time with people in the
Speaker 1: under City that aren't the kem Baron and the kem
Speaker 1: Baron's lackeys, and you really get a sense for what
Speaker 1: people want, what they need, what they're desiring. The fact
Speaker 1: that Jinks answers so many of those needs, and the
Speaker 1: desire to lift her up as as a symbol of freedom,
Speaker 1: you understand it. In these episodes. You understand why that
Speaker 1: happens because you spend so much time with folks who
Speaker 1: you know aren't uh the errors to Silko or the
Speaker 1: heirs to Silko's hench people, and we acknowledge those criticisms,
Speaker 1: but at the same time, I kind of wish we
Speaker 1: would have spent more time with oh, regular folks of
Speaker 1: the understanding.
Speaker 2: I have to say, I actually think it is a
Speaker 2: very interesting and likely I feel like will be a
Speaker 2: long discussed point of this show is like, it's very
Speaker 2: very rare to start at the top and go down. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, usually you start from the underdog perspective and
Speaker 2: the authorizings and you go up and you learn. But yeah,
Speaker 2: this was especially this season, where we began with this
Speaker 2: almost like Star Wars prequels level of bureaucracy and political
Speaker 2: machination and ideas about how to keep the world safe,
Speaker 2: very impro palpatine coded, and then you go underneath and
Speaker 2: you suddenly see the reality of it. I found that
Speaker 2: to be very interesting. I'm also a big Jink stand
Speaker 2: so having the focus on Jinks and this idea of
Speaker 2: Jinks as a hero instead of as a villain, I
Speaker 2: thought it was very interesting and really cool. I really
Speaker 2: like the relationship with it Issha. I also think this
Speaker 2: show needs to get a shout out because it's very
Speaker 2: very rare to have a child character that doesn't suck
Speaker 2: and isn't inherently annoying, and I think they did a
Speaker 2: great job with that. Heah, And yeah, I mean these
Speaker 2: are some of the best episodes of the whole series
Speaker 2: for me, and I'm very excited to see how people
Speaker 2: react when these episodes draw.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, previous to this, the show was about
Speaker 1: this struggle between two ruling factions of two different cities,
Speaker 1: right Piltover in the under City.
Speaker 2: But you make a great points about the ruling factions.
Speaker 1: The ruling factions, but in chapter two, season two, in
Speaker 1: these episodes, it has become about disaffected people within both
Speaker 1: factions who are just like, we don't want to do
Speaker 1: this anymore?
Speaker 2: What else? What is? What else?
Speaker 1: What else can there be besides you know, endless warfare
Speaker 1: and oppression, Like what's the other way? And you're seeing
Speaker 1: with Jinx and v it's it's like each other. It's
Speaker 1: that sound family thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is.
Speaker 1: You know, a tremendously affecting type of story that I
Speaker 1: just I love. Yeah, And it's very it is very
Speaker 1: interesting the perspective they started with, because it really was
Speaker 1: this is about the ruling factions, and you're so steeped
Speaker 1: in the propaganda of both factions that it's hard to
Speaker 1: find like.
Speaker 3: The true.
Speaker 1: Story and it's it really is an interesting narrative choice
Speaker 1: to like to start you so immersed in the propaganda
Speaker 1: of both factions.
Speaker 2: Well the episodes that peel away at those layers and
Speaker 2: like let you see the real people. An a massively
Speaker 2: important point which we will have to tag in. The
Speaker 2: super producer with the high hair, which is our tallest,
Speaker 2: the tallest of all of our hair. He gets the
Speaker 2: means he gets to say on all things hair status, Aaron,
Speaker 2: let's talk about the hairstyle in this in this set
Speaker 2: act because there are many.
Speaker 4: Victor your thoughts on Victor, so Jesus Victor shows up
Speaker 4: and he not only is like a little more into
Speaker 4: his character of Messiah, he also the hair is serving
Speaker 4: a lot better long.
Speaker 2: This is looking looking more alive looking.
Speaker 4: It's very much your typical creative character in a video game.
Speaker 4: And there's like two long hair options. One of them
Speaker 4: is this one that Victor. It's a classic.
Speaker 2: It really works.
Speaker 4: What about Violet, Okay, Violet in the Disco, as I
Speaker 4: nicknamed her in the doc is a d I hate it.
Speaker 4: She looks horrible, the oily black hair with the with
Speaker 4: the I mean the black eye shadow on it very
Speaker 4: and the crow not.
Speaker 2: A not a fit?
Speaker 4: Yes, right, I this is maybe the one thing I
Speaker 4: agree with Caitlin on in this act. Caitlin was like,
Speaker 4: you look like a you look at oil, grease or whatever,
Speaker 4: and I am all for that. Violet a d D
Speaker 4: for Violet.
Speaker 2: Okay, what rating does J skeet?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: So I was not one of the thirsty J's heads
Speaker 4: in season one. He was kind of one of those
Speaker 4: characters that I just felt like they wanted him to
Speaker 4: be important and I just didn't care. Care about the beard.
Speaker 2: I care about the beard.
Speaker 4: I'm giving you plus for the beard plus Yeah, B
Speaker 4: plus B plus for beer.
Speaker 2: Okay. Savika, she is one of the coolest character designs
Speaker 2: and she rocks a new hair style in this season.
Speaker 4: What you're thinking, Yeah, maybe this is a little influenced
Speaker 4: by how much I like her after her like cooperation
Speaker 4: with Jinx, but she has now like the parted hair
Speaker 4: longside as long.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna give her a B.
Speaker 4: I think it's like when she showed up in Jinx's
Speaker 4: Layer with Issha, I was like, Oh, she looks good.
Speaker 4: I like this. Yeah, she's grown and matured, so yeah,
Speaker 4: she gets a be. She's not as high as Jase,
Speaker 4: but she's still pretty good.
Speaker 2: Okay, speaking of Isha, what do you think of the
Speaker 2: blue locks? Like, what's the vibe you like in him?
Speaker 4: Amazing A plus plus plus plus Issha. I mean, Isha
Speaker 4: broke my heart with this, this whole act and the
Speaker 4: blue hair that whole scene she does the one little
Speaker 4: braid for her. You know, there are a lot of
Speaker 4: great This show has always been about parental moments, and
Speaker 4: there's a lot of great parental moments in this because
Speaker 4: we have Vander and Warwick, but the jinx Issha sister
Speaker 4: parent dynamic amazing and I loved Esha and all of
Speaker 4: her glory and this maybe potentially her final acts, but this.
Speaker 3: Act was so good.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you Aaron for being our hair correspondent very anytime.
Speaker 2: Part of every Dystopian show is how good the hair is,
Speaker 2: and this is a show with a lot of good hair.
Speaker 1: Coming up on Extra Vision tomorrow we kick off our
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Speaker 1: and then.
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Speaker 1: Talk about Ridley Scott's Return to the Coliseum Gladiator two.
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