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Speaker 3: Pete Carroll is back in the NFL, the Raiders and
Speaker 3: Pete Carroll working on a deal, finalizing a deal to
Speaker 3: make him the next head coach of the Raiders, reportedly
Speaker 3: a three year deal. Booker McFarlane in the Mothership. We'll
Speaker 3: get his reaction to this coming up shortly, and Ryan Day,
Speaker 3: Ohio state head coach, will stop by as well. The
Speaker 3: Jags have a new coach. He's Liam Cohen and he
Speaker 3: left Tampa Bay, went to Jacksonville and then came back
Speaker 3: to Tampa Bay, and then left Tampa Bay and then
Speaker 3: went back to Jacksonville.
Speaker 2: And now he goes back as the head coach.
Speaker 3: Commander's Eagles three Eastern Bills, Chiefs six point thirty Eastern
Speaker 3: and Weather shouldn't be an issue either one of these places.
Speaker 3: Commanders still getting six and the Bills are getting one
Speaker 3: and a half. More phone calls coming up this final hour,
Speaker 3: we make way for NFL College and ESPN College and
Speaker 3: NFL analyst Booker McFarland on the program. Your reaction to
Speaker 3: Pete Carroll back in the NFL coach and the Raiders booger.
Speaker 4: Well, I think the Raiders wants stability. I think that's
Speaker 4: the one thing you're getting when you get a veteran
Speaker 4: coach like Pete Carroll.
Speaker 5: I think it's good.
Speaker 4: I think Pete Carroll is going to give them a
Speaker 4: sense of okay, now we are a professional organization. Not
Speaker 4: that they weren't well with Antonio Peers, but you just
Speaker 4: got the feeling that there was always the question, are
Speaker 4: we going to keep Antonio or are we not? I
Speaker 4: think Pete Carroll's hire says we got our coach. I
Speaker 4: think it's a three year deal with the team option
Speaker 4: for the fourth, so I think Pete's in good shape
Speaker 4: now has the ability. Now comes the big question, Dan,
Speaker 4: who's going to be the quarterback? Because I don't think Gardner,
Speaker 4: Minshew or aoc ain't O'Connell. Either one of them are
Speaker 4: the answers. So now they have to figure that out.
Speaker 4: And then I think Pete Carroll has always been a
Speaker 4: guy that got his team to play at a maximum level.
Speaker 5: So I expect no different now with the Raiders.
Speaker 3: Okay, but as a veteran, like what is Pete Carroll
Speaker 3: going to bring to that organization aside from stability, but
Speaker 3: I'm talking about day to day like why would Pete
Speaker 3: Carroll be the person that they wanted. I know they
Speaker 3: lost out on Ben Johnson, but yeah, you go from
Speaker 3: Ben Johnson with no head coaching experience to Pete Carroll
Speaker 3: with a lot of head coaching experience.
Speaker 4: Structure, been there, He's taking teams to Super Bowls. Like,
Speaker 4: Pete understands how to get it done. Pete knows what
Speaker 4: it takes. And I think anytime you have somebody that
Speaker 4: stands in front of the room who knows what it takes,
Speaker 4: you automatically have buy in because you've been there, You've
Speaker 4: done that, and so now the players know that if
Speaker 4: we just do what Pete says, Pete will take us there.
Speaker 4: And there's nothing better in any type of job that
Speaker 4: you're in. I think you will attest to this, there's
Speaker 4: nothing better than confidence. It's amazing what happens when you
Speaker 4: get the right people in the right place. How that
Speaker 4: gives an organization confidence. Just look at the Washington Commanders.
Speaker 4: They were left for dead last year. Incomes Dan Quinn.
Speaker 4: They get new ownership, they get a new quarterback, and
Speaker 4: they're planning for a chance to go to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 6: Dan.
Speaker 4: Let that be no better example than when you get
Speaker 4: the right people in the right spot. Now your organization
Speaker 4: can take off. Whether the Raiders take off at that level,
Speaker 4: we'll see, but they definitely have the right coach.
Speaker 5: In my opinion.
Speaker 3: The big difference is obviously Jaden Daniels. But is this
Speaker 3: team's pretty much the team that was there last year
Speaker 3: and then you add Jayden to this. I mean, is
Speaker 3: it that simple that that kind of turnaround.
Speaker 4: Well, the quarterback is a big piece, and then you
Speaker 4: bring in Bobby Wagner, you get some veteran guys, but
Speaker 4: there's no question that the quarterback is the central piece
Speaker 4: to that touches the ball every single play. Then and
Speaker 4: when you have a guy that's a difference maker that
Speaker 4: touches the ball every single play, now, the other fifty
Speaker 4: two guys in the organization understanding know that we got
Speaker 4: a guy that can compete with the upper echeline of
Speaker 4: the league.
Speaker 5: And I'm not saying he's.
Speaker 4: Better than Mahomes or Borough, Lamar Jackson or Josh Allen,
Speaker 4: but he can't compete. And when I wake up and
Speaker 4: go to the building every morning, man, that's a great
Speaker 4: feeling because I know, if I do my job.
Speaker 5: We got a chance.
Speaker 4: There's a difference when you have a guy in there.
Speaker 4: And no disrespect to Sam Howell. Sam Howell wasn't getting
Speaker 4: me warm and fuzzy every time I walked in the building.
Speaker 4: Jay Daniels gives me an opportunity to be that way.
Speaker 2: How do they beat the Eagles?
Speaker 5: Stop the run?
Speaker 4: They gotta stop, say Kwan Barkley. And it sounds crazy
Speaker 4: because Jalen Hurts. We've seen him go toe to toe
Speaker 4: with Patrick Mahomes and the Super Bowl. But they got
Speaker 4: to make Jalen Hurst beat him. They got to make
Speaker 4: Jalen Hurst throw the football to AJ Brown and Devonte Smith.
Speaker 5: I think it's the lesser of.
Speaker 4: Two evils because either one the passing game or the
Speaker 4: running game, can get you. But I think if you
Speaker 4: are the command who's You've got to take away these
Speaker 4: fifty sixty seven yard run that sain Kwon Bark has
Speaker 4: been putting up and make Jalen Hurts beat you. And
Speaker 4: I think if they do that, they'll at least give
Speaker 4: themselves an opportunity to.
Speaker 3: We don't know if he's one hundred percent Jalen hurds right.
Speaker 3: So given that you know that knee could be a
Speaker 3: little bonky, do you want to kind of force him
Speaker 3: to be mobile as opposed to force him to being
Speaker 3: a pocket pancer.
Speaker 4: Well, I think anytime he's in the pocket number one,
Speaker 4: you want to get pressure up the middle, Like with
Speaker 4: Jonathan Allen Deron Payin. You want pressure up the middle,
Speaker 4: and then you want to make him go to his left.
Speaker 4: I think the numbers are are astronomically worse when he
Speaker 4: goes to his left, as you would expect right handed
Speaker 4: quarterback going left. It's tougher to throw. So you want
Speaker 4: to make him go to his left rather than Scramblin
Speaker 4: says right. So if I'm bringing pressure, I'm bringing pressure
Speaker 4: from his right arm. I'm going to make him go left.
Speaker 4: Anything you can get to take advantage of his impairment,
Speaker 4: because let's face it, Nobody, even if you don't get
Speaker 4: your knee twisted, is healthy this time of year, but
Speaker 4: especially him when he got that knees twisted up. I mean,
Speaker 4: we thought maybe he wasn't going to come back in
Speaker 4: the game last week, and then he comes back and
Speaker 4: he finishes. I don't think he's going to be one
Speaker 4: hundred percent. I think if you're an Eagles fan and
Speaker 4: you're hoping he's closer to eighty five or ninety, I
Speaker 4: would bet he's probably closer to seventy five.
Speaker 5: Will know early.
Speaker 4: I'm blitzing him early, and I'm going to see whether
Speaker 4: or not he can run. And if I know early
Speaker 4: on he can't run, that changes my entire game plan.
Speaker 4: And so I think you're gonna see dan Quinn find
Speaker 4: out in the first series how healthy that knee is
Speaker 4: by bringing pressure from the from the right, from his
Speaker 4: right arm or up the middle, make him run and
Speaker 4: just see how healthy he is.
Speaker 3: What would you do as a defensive player with Mahomes
Speaker 3: with the sliding that going out of the going out
Speaker 3: of bounds, Dude, it feels like you know, he knows
Speaker 3: he's protected and he's kind of flirting with these rules here.
Speaker 3: But as a defensive player, what would you do.
Speaker 5: I think it's up to the coaches.
Speaker 4: Number one pregame, I think you have a talk to
Speaker 4: the referee, like, hey, listen, we know the quarterback is protected. However,
Speaker 4: how do you want us to handle this when he's
Speaker 4: a runner, Because when he's a runner, he's not protected,
Speaker 4: because again he's a runner, not a quarterback in the pocket.
Speaker 4: But we've seen mahomes run down the field and then
Speaker 4: slide twenty or thirty yards down the field. And so
Speaker 4: I'm having a talk with the referee just to say, hey,
Speaker 4: let's alert and be on alert for the late slide
Speaker 4: because if I'm already in my tackling motion, I can't stop.
Speaker 4: And then you got to tell your defenders, hey, guys,
Speaker 4: let's proceed with aggressive caution. And here's what I mean.
Speaker 4: You got to go ahet in one hundred miles an hour.
Speaker 4: And then at the last minute, if you think if
Speaker 4: he's sliding, then use your hands. Don't hit him with
Speaker 4: your elbow in your head, use your hands to get
Speaker 4: him down. I think the biggest deal with these penalties
Speaker 4: is you're seeing a lot of blows with your shoulder
Speaker 4: pass or the helmet or the form to Patrick mahomes head,
Speaker 4: let's use our hands to get him on the ground.
Speaker 4: And I think if they do that, they'll probably get
Speaker 4: the benefit of the doubt.
Speaker 5: But I think.
Speaker 4: Patrick understands how to manipulate the rules a little bit,
Speaker 4: and I don't blame it. How many times have we
Speaker 4: seen him though, like he's going out of bounds and
Speaker 4: he puts that foot in the ground.
Speaker 5: And gets another ten or fifteen No, I know.
Speaker 4: I think that's where you have to alert the reff like, hey,
Speaker 4: how are you going to call that?
Speaker 5: And what would you like me to do?
Speaker 2: Booker, I've said it now.
Speaker 3: I'm not calling for it, but I know that somebody's
Speaker 3: going to hit him. Somebody's going to pop him at
Speaker 3: some point. If you're going to continue to flirt with
Speaker 3: the I'm going out of bound, not going out of bounds,
Speaker 3: I'm sliding them, not sly, somebody's going to take a shot.
Speaker 3: Deal with the fifteen yards benches clear, Maybe a fine,
Speaker 3: But until the NFL, if you want to protect your quarterbacks,
Speaker 3: they have to do better at this rule or these
Speaker 3: rules so the defense can understand how can this be
Speaker 3: a level playing field, because as it is now, it's
Speaker 3: not a level playing field. And maybe they don't want
Speaker 3: that booger, but at some point I worry that somebody's
Speaker 3: gonna take Sean Well.
Speaker 4: I don't think to your point, I don't know if
Speaker 4: they wanted to be a level playing field because they
Speaker 4: realize that the quarterbacks sell. Like right now, we're looking
Speaker 4: at Jay and Daniels, Jalen Hurts, Patrick Mahomes, and Josh Allen,
Speaker 4: and I think the NFL is salivating right now that
Speaker 4: we're gonna any combination of two of these four quarterbacks
Speaker 4: in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 5: We can sell it.
Speaker 4: And that's what you want, Like if you go back
Speaker 4: to the Super Bowl with Nick Foles in it, like
Speaker 4: the NFL, like Philadelphia want everybody's happy. But we ain't
Speaker 4: selling Nick Foles to America to tune in with one
Speaker 4: hundred and thirty million people. I love Nick Foles, but
Speaker 4: he's not making me warm and fuzzy to turn the
Speaker 4: TV to CBS. And so I think that the NFL
Speaker 4: is going to protect their quarterbacks. However, you have to
Speaker 4: make the game fair for defensive players. And to your point, Dan,
Speaker 4: I may even tell my defenders this, hey, guys, early
Speaker 4: in the game, first half, first half, I'll give you.
Speaker 5: I'll give you a little leeway.
Speaker 4: So if he's going out of bounds, take a shot
Speaker 4: because we can recover in the second half. Now, like
Speaker 4: the game, you gotta be cautious, but the first half,
Speaker 4: let's light his ass up a little.
Speaker 2: Bit, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: NFL Prime Time with Chris Berman and Booger McFarland right
Speaker 3: after the game, the AFC Title Game at around nine
Speaker 3: to forty five Eastern on the Mothership.
Speaker 2: Are the Bills a running team?
Speaker 4: I think the Bills are whatever they need to be team.
Speaker 4: You know, when they had Stefan Diggs, that's all we
Speaker 4: talked about was Stefan Diggs, Josh Allen. Now they've morphed
Speaker 4: into this team that they can do whatever they need
Speaker 4: to do. They went out and got a Marik Cooper
Speaker 4: so they can throw the football to secure Amari Cooper.
Speaker 4: They got the two tidy impactags they can go to
Speaker 4: they can throw at the James, could go out to
Speaker 4: the backfield, so they have weapons to throw the football. However,
Speaker 4: I think what we've realized is this postseason, Dan, the
Speaker 4: more physical teams are winning these games.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 4: The team that can control the line of scrimmage and
Speaker 4: be physically imposing. Those are the teams that are winning
Speaker 4: these games. And I think Buffalo said, Okay, we've tried
Speaker 4: this with Josh being Superman.
Speaker 5: That didn't work. We've tried this a number of ways.
Speaker 5: So how about let's be physical.
Speaker 4: Let's get thirty five carries a game between our running
Speaker 4: backs and Josh Allen.
Speaker 5: Let's control the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 4: And then in those moments late in the movie, okay
Speaker 4: about the time the movies about the commes tell the
Speaker 4: god at quarterback to put the kpe on and now
Speaker 4: go turn into Superman. And when he turns into Superman,
Speaker 4: that means whatever he needs to do.
Speaker 5: If he needs to.
Speaker 4: Run thirty, run thirty, If he needs to throw a sixty,
Speaker 4: to throw a sixty. And so I think they've developed
Speaker 4: into that type of team with one caveat, don't turn
Speaker 4: the football over. They haven't turned the ball over, and
Speaker 4: I think those are the primary reasons they've been successful.
Speaker 2: Are you chiefed out?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 4: I never get chiefed out, because when you're a competitor,
Speaker 4: every year is different. And so to say I'm chiefed
Speaker 4: out with mean that I'm rooting for. I'm not rooting
Speaker 4: for the best teams. I think that each and every
Speaker 4: time you go out, you got to earn it. The
Speaker 4: Chiefs have earned back to back Super Bowls. If they
Speaker 4: get to a third, they will have earned it. Everything
Speaker 4: is earned in this business. Then nothing is given, man,
Speaker 4: And so I'm not chiefed out because I know how
Speaker 4: hard it is to go and earn what it is
Speaker 4: that you need to get to win a Super Bowl.
Speaker 4: I won two of them, none of them. Nothing has
Speaker 4: ever been given. Everything has got to be earned.
Speaker 2: Do you think the Chiefs get favorable calls?
Speaker 4: I think the home team is always going to get
Speaker 4: favorable calls, and the Chiefs have pretty much been at
Speaker 4: home except for one playoff run, So I do think
Speaker 4: that they get favorable calls because the crowd think about this.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna put a scenario out there. Let's say Patrick
Speaker 4: Mahomes is running down the chief sideline and there's a
Speaker 4: questionable hit. Everybody in the stadium along with everybody in
Speaker 4: the sideline, is going to be throw the flag through
Speaker 4: the flag and human nature is going to.
Speaker 5: Kind of influenced the offishal.
Speaker 4: Look like it takes somebody really that that's got a
Speaker 4: really nice temperament and a really strong demeanor not to
Speaker 4: listen to seventy thousand plus all the coaches.
Speaker 5: In front of your in front of your face doing that.
Speaker 4: So I think the home team, especially on the home sideline,
Speaker 4: always get a favorable flag.
Speaker 3: My best to Chris Berman and we'll be watching Sunday night.
Speaker 3: Great to talk to you again.
Speaker 5: Always man, love coming on with you guys. Thank you
Speaker 5: for having me.
Speaker 3: Sir Booger McFarlane. One of these days he's coming up
Speaker 3: for a meet Friday. It keeps threatening. I mean, we'll
Speaker 3: get ready, we'll have he can create the menu NFL
Speaker 3: Primetime with Chris Berman and Booger right after the conclusion
Speaker 3: of the AFC title game on the mother Ship Alex
Speaker 3: in Utah. Then we'll take a break. Ryan Day, the
Speaker 3: Ohio state head coach, will join us.
Speaker 8: Hey Alex, Hey, morning guys, Happy Meet Friday.
Speaker 5: I am yeah.
Speaker 8: I in my short time as like a big foot,
Speaker 8: I can't think of a better coach division than the
Speaker 8: AFC West now, So I guess that's sort of my
Speaker 8: question is, is there has there been a better coach
Speaker 8: division where you have potentially four Hall of famers all
Speaker 8: coaching one division at the same time and also makes
Speaker 8: me wonder how long before Tom Brady goes to give
Speaker 8: Pete Carroll high five and then just low balls him
Speaker 8: by saying, hey, Malcolm Butler and then boss away.
Speaker 3: I don't know if Malcolm Butler comes up in the
Speaker 3: press conference when they introduced Pete Carol, I don't think so.
Speaker 2: Just guessing, yeah, coach, we're handing this one off.
Speaker 4: Or.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Pete, game on the line. You're gonna run the
Speaker 3: ball to go? Are you going to pass the ball?
Speaker 6: Question?
Speaker 2: We'll have to do some research.
Speaker 3: Is this the best head coaching division in recent memory?
Speaker 2: With the NFL?
Speaker 5: Yes, morv recent memory.
Speaker 9: I was going to say all time, NFC East was
Speaker 9: a parcels, Tom Landry, Joe Gibbs.
Speaker 5: That's just all the top Jack.
Speaker 2: For mel.
Speaker 3: Was was Vermeil the head coach. Then the Eagles checkingiggles.
Speaker 3: All right, let me take a break. We'll talk to
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Speaker 3: Try to sneak in a few more phone calls here
Speaker 3: waiting for Ryan Day, head coach at Ohio State. That
Speaker 3: AFC West with Pete Carroll with the Raiders, Jim Harball
Speaker 3: with the Chargers, Sean Payton and Denver, Andy Reid and
Speaker 3: Kansas City. We were trying to come up with on
Speaker 3: short notice, is there another conference division that had coaches
Speaker 3: that would rival this one? Because Andy Reach's Hall of Famer,
Speaker 3: Jim Harball, he's a football Hall of Fame, not NFL
Speaker 3: hall of Fame. And Sean Payton probably a borderline Hall
Speaker 3: of Famer. Pete Carroll in there as well, winning a
Speaker 3: Super Bowl and lose a Super Bowl as well, but
Speaker 3: now back with the Raiders and a three year deal.
Speaker 2: Age seven to seven to three.
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Speaker 3: Ohio State, National Champs coach. Congratulations. How much of this
Speaker 3: was joy and how much of this was relief?
Speaker 6: And it was a combination of the two.
Speaker 12: Yeah, it was it was both, and I think the
Speaker 12: whole run that we went on throughout the playoffs was
Speaker 12: that way. I really haven't had as much fun coaching
Speaker 12: a team like that in a long time.
Speaker 6: It was just a bunch of guys together. There really
Speaker 6: was no class.
Speaker 12: Because class was out, and we just spent a bunch
Speaker 12: of time together and had a bunch of fun, bunch
Speaker 12: of fun playing. But in the end, as we headed
Speaker 12: in that last game, we just knew that, you know,
Speaker 12: it would just be another story that kind of comes
Speaker 12: and goes. But now the fact that we won, we're
Speaker 12: able to cement that story in the history of college football,
Speaker 12: and obviously at Ohio State.
Speaker 3: Take me back to Michigan and I had a former
Speaker 3: player say this to me that when Michigan tried to
Speaker 3: plant the flag, that maybe brought your team together or
Speaker 3: more together. Whether that's true or not, you would know
Speaker 3: that better. But it's almost like it galvanized this team.
Speaker 3: Nothing's going to be easy us against the world. They
Speaker 3: embarrassed us. Now let's go out and prove that we're
Speaker 3: still the best team. Anything I'm saying that wasn't true.
Speaker 12: I think it's certainly part of the story of the year.
Speaker 12: There's no question about that. And I felt like this
Speaker 12: team was close anyways. I thought we were galvanized. But
Speaker 12: when you go through something like that, you know you
Speaker 12: have to regroup and figure out, most importantly, what happened,
Speaker 12: and how do we get these things fixed? So you know,
Speaker 12: there's a lot of ways to look at this, and
Speaker 12: some more dramatic than others, but the truth is we
Speaker 12: had to get things fixed. There was things that were
Speaker 12: just not right coming out of that game that you know,
Speaker 12: in all three phases, we need to get addressed. And
Speaker 12: that was the bottom line. And then there was a
Speaker 12: lot of other things that came with it, as you know.
Speaker 12: And you know, once we got those things addressed and
Speaker 12: the players recognize that things needed to get fixed and
Speaker 12: knew the plan going into the Tennessee game, there was
Speaker 12: just there was a collective, just like you said, a
Speaker 12: bunch of guys together saying, all right, we're gonna make
Speaker 12: this run and we're gonna be dangerous once we get
Speaker 12: some momentum going again.
Speaker 2: But how does this affect you personally?
Speaker 3: You lose to Michigan again, and you know that topic
Speaker 3: in Columbus in that state, and you know, you're you're
Speaker 3: I don't know if you're fighting for survival or what
Speaker 3: tell me your emotions where you lose to Michigan again
Speaker 3: and you know the importance of what that means.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean, certainly you know there was obviously disappointment
Speaker 12: amongst all the other emotions, but you know, once those
Speaker 12: things kind of come and go and you have a
Speaker 12: couple of.
Speaker 6: Days, you have to refocus yourself.
Speaker 12: And as difficult as that was, it was an opportunity
Speaker 12: to write an unbelievable story and then the next month
Speaker 12: and I felt like it was an opportunity for me
Speaker 12: as a dad, as a husband, and as a man
Speaker 12: to show my family that you know, when you get
Speaker 12: knocked down and you're backed up against the wall, that
Speaker 12: you know, it's about how you handle yourself and how
Speaker 12: you fight yourself out of these types of situations. And
Speaker 12: then and then, you know, for our team, you know,
Speaker 12: for the guys on the team and the seniors and
Speaker 12: even the young guys to watch, you know, you know,
Speaker 12: how you handle yourself and then have something to grab
Speaker 12: on to it for the rest of their life, and
Speaker 12: then serve as an example for all the Buckeye fans
Speaker 12: who you know, certainly you know had ups and downs
Speaker 12: this season, but we're able to, you know, see how
Speaker 12: you handle yourself when when things get really really difficult,
Speaker 12: and I think that really defines people's character.
Speaker 3: It was reported there were death threats how do you
Speaker 3: talk to your kids about that, or your wife about
Speaker 3: how do you process that?
Speaker 6: I think every year for us it's become.
Speaker 12: Easier to manage when you know, our family first was
Speaker 12: named you know, the head coach in twenty nineteen. My
Speaker 12: wife and the kids were smaller than we were all
Speaker 12: sitting on the bed together, and I've told the story before.
Speaker 6: She said, you know, started crying, said our family's never
Speaker 6: going to be the same again.
Speaker 12: And she was right. But that didn't make it easy.
Speaker 12: You know, you're expected to win them all, and when
Speaker 12: you don't, it's it's tough. But that's because of the passion,
Speaker 12: and nobody puts more pressure on themselves than myself and
Speaker 12: my family. Nobody wants to win more than my kids
Speaker 12: and my wife. So it isn't so much that because
Speaker 12: they're more disappointed than anybody could possibly be in Buckeye Nation.
Speaker 12: And so we shared the same frustration because you know,
Speaker 12: my family and my kids want to win worse than
Speaker 12: even I do. I mean, they just that's the way
Speaker 12: they're wired, and they love the fans, and so you know,
Speaker 12: when you do lose, you know, there's there's a feeling
Speaker 12: of disappointment, and you share in the frustration with people
Speaker 12: because they love it so much.
Speaker 6: But that's that's also living, you know, your relevant. I mean,
Speaker 6: that's that's.
Speaker 12: What makes Ohio State so special is because people care
Speaker 12: so much. Now with that comes from some craziness, but
Speaker 12: that's okay. It also makes when you win that much
Speaker 12: more special.
Speaker 2: What was it like when you saw your family after
Speaker 2: you won the title?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 6: That was, man, that was a special moment.
Speaker 12: You know, something that you know, always remember, just the
Speaker 12: fact that you could look at your your family and
Speaker 12: your wife and the eyes and say, hey, we did
Speaker 12: this thing together, and they did.
Speaker 6: They were a big part of it.
Speaker 12: And we know where we were about a month and
Speaker 12: a half ago and where we are right now, and
Speaker 12: it was pure joy.
Speaker 3: Like you mentioned earlier, he's Ryan Day, head coach of
Speaker 3: Ohio State National Champs. Take me back to the third
Speaker 3: and eleven call. Who makes the call and was what
Speaker 3: was the other option in that situation?
Speaker 6: Well, we were trying to run down the clock. We had.
Speaker 12: There's a point in the game where we're up by
Speaker 12: multiple scores and you start doing the math on it
Speaker 12: and you're like, man, if we can just run out
Speaker 12: a few minutes, you know, each time we have the
Speaker 12: ball and continue to get some first.
Speaker 6: Downs, and we could just you can milk this thing
Speaker 6: and win.
Speaker 12: And when you're talking about being that close to a
Speaker 12: national championship, you know you're holding on real tight. Maybe
Speaker 12: held on a little too tight. But on first and
Speaker 12: second down, we were gonna run the ball. We thought
Speaker 12: about throwing it on second down because we saw a
Speaker 12: man the man coverage on the outside, and you know,
Speaker 12: wanted to keep the clock running. And then they called
Speaker 12: the time out and on the headset there's a lot
Speaker 12: of back and forth there. Our whole offensive staff, I thought,
Speaker 12: did a great job throughout the whole run chips obviously
Speaker 12: right there, and and we said, you know, we run
Speaker 12: one more time and chew up the clock, and some
Speaker 12: guys said, no, let's let's let's call a third down play.
Speaker 12: And so we looked at the call sheet and we
Speaker 12: saw a play that is one of our bass plays
Speaker 12: that we put in day one.
Speaker 6: We're literally it's a.
Speaker 12: Go ball on the outside of the outside receivers and
Speaker 12: a middle read by our h and a couple of
Speaker 12: checkdowns by the inside guys and say, if we're lucky
Speaker 12: enough to get one on one on the outside and
Speaker 12: when we were launching that thing up away from the
Speaker 12: free safety, and we had worked hard on that route
Speaker 12: in particular because we knew we were getting a certain
Speaker 12: technique in the game, and so when we saw it,
Speaker 12: you know, our eyes lit up, so the wills and
Speaker 12: certainly had to be executed.
Speaker 6: But it was like in slow motion.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, what's it like when that ball's
Speaker 2: in the air?
Speaker 6: Slow motion?
Speaker 12: Just like holding your breath knowing that if we catch
Speaker 12: this thing, we're probably national champs. And there's an unbelievable picture.
Speaker 12: It's a still photo from the sideline from the other way.
Speaker 12: You can see our entire sideline as the balls in
Speaker 12: the air, and just the look of everybody's face on
Speaker 12: that sideline is amazing, just because everyone can see like,
Speaker 12: we catch this ball, we're gonna be national champs.
Speaker 6: It was quite a moment.
Speaker 3: How difficult is it to keep your roster together? There's
Speaker 3: a report that Jeremiah Smith offered four and a half
Speaker 3: million dollars. Like Ohio State doesn't usually lose players, but
Speaker 3: all in today's nil and transfer portal, everybody's fair game.
Speaker 3: So how do you go about having conversations or retaining
Speaker 3: some of your players.
Speaker 12: I think the first thing you have to bring in
Speaker 12: great people and great families, but you also have to
Speaker 12: value them and try to do everything you can to
Speaker 12: get what they deserve and what's fair. But there's also
Speaker 12: something to be said for being around a program like ours,
Speaker 12: and you know, you think if it's all equal, you
Speaker 12: know we'll have a chance to to get our share
Speaker 12: of guys.
Speaker 6: But but it is different. There's no question.
Speaker 12: I think as coaches were all looking for a little
Speaker 12: bit more guidelines on this. I mean, everything is so
Speaker 12: gray right now, and.
Speaker 3: How does that work though, coach that let's say I
Speaker 3: wanted to talk to Jeremiah, Let's say I'm Georgia. I
Speaker 3: want to talk to him, like, how does that go
Speaker 3: about that you get in front of somebody or you know,
Speaker 3: you put a price tag?
Speaker 2: And is there tampering and college football?
Speaker 12: I think one of the big issues that we have
Speaker 12: in across the board in college football.
Speaker 6: Right now is enforcement.
Speaker 12: I mean, you just you know, you know some of
Speaker 12: the stories of some of the things that have gone
Speaker 12: on just you know, within the last couple of years
Speaker 12: or even in the past, but enforcement is really strained
Speaker 12: right now, and so until we start enforcing some of
Speaker 12: these rules. Like you said, I mean, people can just
Speaker 12: call someone's agents or someone's parents and offer them a
Speaker 12: certain amount of money and then it goes from there.
Speaker 12: And that's just part of it. I mean, there's so
Speaker 12: many other things that come in place. So that's one
Speaker 12: of the things to me that I think we've got
Speaker 12: to get addressed in college sports, in college football is
Speaker 12: enforcement because right now there's virtually none, and it's it's
Speaker 12: gotten worse as time has gone on.
Speaker 3: When's the last time that NFL team reached out to you?
Speaker 6: You know, they don't really reach out to me.
Speaker 12: They would reach out, I guess to my agent, and
Speaker 12: that happened sometimes, but you know, we've not really engaged
Speaker 12: because I love Ohio.
Speaker 6: State and I want to be here as long as
Speaker 6: I can.
Speaker 2: So that's not a goal.
Speaker 6: No, that's not a goal.
Speaker 12: It's not a goal, and I wouldn't say that, I
Speaker 12: wouldn't consider that somewhere down the line. But my son
Speaker 12: is a sophomore in high school, my daughters are in
Speaker 12: middle school. They love it here, and you know, I
Speaker 12: want to be here, you know, through there, through there,
Speaker 12: you know, run through high school and then you know,
Speaker 12: see what the next phase brings. But but like I said,
Speaker 12: you know, once the confetti fell, that was it.
Speaker 6: It's on next year.
Speaker 7: I know.
Speaker 6: Do you get a vacation, Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll have
Speaker 6: We'll have some time.
Speaker 12: But but it's not like, you know, we're going away
Speaker 12: to Tahiti for a week.
Speaker 2: Were you on the phone to recruits after the national title?
Speaker 6: Recruits and and you know are our current players? And yeah,
Speaker 6: that night.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's a great Saban would do that.
Speaker 3: He'd win a national title, get on the phone and
Speaker 3: say to a recruit, hey, you could be celebrating with us,
Speaker 3: confetti probably in his hair.
Speaker 2: Did you do that?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 6: But you know what's interesting is the timetables changed. So
Speaker 6: the early signing day.
Speaker 12: We had one hundred and forty five guys in our
Speaker 12: team this year, and over twenty of them were recruits
Speaker 12: that started classes on January sixth, so they were actually
Speaker 12: with the team for the last two games. So instead
Speaker 12: of the signing day, which should have been happening next Wednesday,
Speaker 12: they had signed and were enrolled in classes.
Speaker 6: So like, the timetables changed a lot.
Speaker 12: But you know, we have obviously, you know, been recruiting
Speaker 12: the twenty sixth class, which is about another year away.
Speaker 3: Where would you put Jeremiah Smith with the other receivers
Speaker 3: you've coached.
Speaker 6: Well after the first year, it's hard to put him
Speaker 6: anywhere other than one. I think some of those guys
Speaker 6: had great freshman years, but not not like this.
Speaker 3: We need to check his birth certificate, Like, how old
Speaker 3: do you see, coach, come on?
Speaker 6: Nineteen years old?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 12: Yeah, but he's special and we knew he was special,
Speaker 12: and his maturity is beyond his years physically, mentally and emotionally.
Speaker 6: He's a special talent, as you know.
Speaker 3: Congrats, enjoy it while you can because we know what happens.
Speaker 3: So this season starts, then there's the Michigan game. Keep smiling,
Speaker 3: never ends, does it?
Speaker 2: Thank you?
Speaker 6: Coach never does respect.
Speaker 3: That's a Ryan Day, head coach of Ohio State won
Speaker 3: the national title.
Speaker 2: And you know what, I got a big kick out
Speaker 2: of it.
Speaker 3: They win, and he's trying to get his headset off
Speaker 3: and his belt off and he's running down the sidelines
Speaker 3: and he just throws it. I don't know where it goes,
Speaker 3: but that joy was that's relief, that's true relief. And
Speaker 3: you hadn't had that before. But imagine you sit down
Speaker 3: with your family. You're trying to explain, hey, our life
Speaker 3: has just changed, and like you're not taking the job
Speaker 3: of you know, Kansas football. This is Ohio sting and
Speaker 3: your life will change for the better and maybe for
Speaker 3: the worst. And then you get death threats when you
Speaker 3: lose to Michigan, and then you've got to talk to
Speaker 3: your family about that, just so they understand. I mean,
Speaker 3: Dan Campbell in Detroit got death threats. This is Detroit
Speaker 3: where you're going like, thank god I got Dan Campbell
Speaker 3: as my coach.
Speaker 2: We almost got there. You had no hope before. Damn.
Speaker 3: They're a parade for But that's you know, that's the
Speaker 3: sad reality of this. It is big time business. We
Speaker 3: like to make it amateur sports. It is business. That
Speaker 3: is business. Unfortunately, Yeah, point.
Speaker 13: And you said the phrase roster retention. Five years ago,
Speaker 13: they didn't have to do that that much. Once in
Speaker 13: a while, guy transferred, but you had to sit or
Speaker 13: there was no incentive to transfer.
Speaker 11: Financially, it's a whole different world.
Speaker 3: Well, you wouldn't think Ohio State have to worry about that.
Speaker 3: But here's a report by the website on three that
Speaker 3: Jeremiah Smith is getting a four and a half million
Speaker 3: dollar offer. I sure I'd do the same thing if
Speaker 3: I had the money. I got a sure thing. He's
Speaker 3: won a national title. You want to get four and
Speaker 3: a half million dollars. One of these schools, maybe an
Speaker 3: SEC school, gonna say, hey, come on down, come on down,
Speaker 3: We'll pay you. All right when we come back, be
Speaker 3: long awaited most must win game of the weekend.
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Speaker 2: W app Man, I'm ready for this.
Speaker 7: Me here we go.
Speaker 14: The six I was a tinyghboy, A don't one, no kinder.
Speaker 3: It's changing, all right, let's go for phone calls. What
Speaker 3: we learn, what's in store for Monday? My thanks to
Speaker 3: all of our guests today. I thought Ryan Day was
Speaker 3: very forthcoming there, and uh, you know that's that's a
Speaker 3: guy who's won a national title and it's the off season.
Speaker 3: Clay Matthews stopping by Booger McFarlane and Rick Stroud covering
Speaker 3: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. All right, are we gonna write
Speaker 3: Monday's head headline today? Paulie, I think we have to
Speaker 3: you gotta do one game, Okay, so you have to
Speaker 3: write Monday's headline. Friday, we're also going to play the
Speaker 3: most must win game of the weekend. And yes, we
Speaker 3: know they're all most must win games of the weekend.
Speaker 3: They are just some in my opinion, that might be
Speaker 3: more must must win games, and it might be for
Speaker 3: players or coaches.
Speaker 11: Yes, there must win because if you lose, you're out
Speaker 11: of It's true. He checked.
Speaker 2: That is true.
Speaker 11: But are the Commanders a must win game perception wise? No,
Speaker 11: we just proved there's an opening here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not must win, must show up game. Yes,
Speaker 3: must be competitive game of the weekend, the Commanders.
Speaker 6: That's new.
Speaker 3: Okay, Todd, I'll start with you the most must win
Speaker 3: game of the weekend.
Speaker 14: That would be Josh Allen and the Bills. Must win.
Speaker 14: Time to defron the Chiefs and take that next step
Speaker 14: of the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 2: Ain't seed O'Connor.
Speaker 15: The Buffalo Bills shock the Kansas City Chiefs with a
Speaker 15: thrilling victory, and.
Speaker 2: We're not doing the headline. No, No, it's the most
Speaker 2: must win game of the week. Yeah.
Speaker 15: Yeah, I'm going to say that the Bills have to
Speaker 15: be the Chiefs.
Speaker 3: Ok, and that was my headline here, headline, Wow, somebody
Speaker 3: might steal that one.
Speaker 15: Buffalo Bill shock the Kansas City Chiefs, the thrilling victory
Speaker 15: and a blockbuster showdown.
Speaker 3: Maria chief Concerns Marvin Most must win game of the week.
Speaker 9: The Philadelphia Eagles. They cannot lose to a division opponent
Speaker 9: with a rookie quarterback.
Speaker 2: Oh all right, bringing some heat there.
Speaker 11: Paully the Chiefs.
Speaker 13: For Andy Reid, specifically, he can enter an entirely new category,
Speaker 13: his own category. Three in a row. He will likely
Speaker 13: not have this chance again. So this is somewhat football
Speaker 13: immortality's learning with.
Speaker 3: I'm going to say most must win game of the
Speaker 3: weekend for Patrick Mahomes because if Mahomes, you're gonna do
Speaker 3: something no one else has ever done. And if you
Speaker 3: want to get to Brady, you're also going to be
Speaker 3: lumped into the Michael Jordan category. You three peted, and
Speaker 3: you three peeted in a sport that's harder to three
Speaker 3: peat than the NBA is. And I think that's why
Speaker 3: Mahomes needs to win this game.
Speaker 5: Damn three peat.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, Todd.
Speaker 3: It's a great story and it wasn't even a three
Speaker 3: piece suit you had on.
Speaker 14: Was it was some linen suit and I banged it
Speaker 14: to this guy at some club and I almost spulled
Speaker 14: my cranberry juice or whatever on him. Man, he just
Speaker 14: looked at me with his very attractive girlfriend. He's like,
Speaker 14: damn three piece, what were you going? I was gonna
Speaker 14: get my butt kick?
Speaker 2: Damn three piece?
Speaker 11: I thought I was gotta get my butt kicks.
Speaker 14: I think within five minutes after that happen, I'm like,
Speaker 14: you know what, I have no business being here. I
Speaker 14: should just go home.
Speaker 3: All right, let's write Monday's headline today, Todd, I'll start
Speaker 3: with you.
Speaker 14: I'm going with three and a No, Chiefs won't play
Speaker 14: for three peats set at three in a row. Three
Speaker 14: and a No.
Speaker 3: Okay, uh see, oh you already gave us your Buffalo
Speaker 3: bill one.
Speaker 2: I mean I felt like I was pretty strong. No,
Speaker 2: it was really good.
Speaker 6: No Fuster showdown.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Irvin Monday's headline today, Jaden Rose Fab five lists Commanders
Speaker 9: to the super Bowl.
Speaker 14: Okay, it was a fritzy stretch, but I've been there.
Speaker 14: I've been there.
Speaker 11: Paulie, Ooh, that looks like it.
Speaker 13: Earth's Zach takes down the Eagles.
Speaker 11: All right, I'll take that.
Speaker 2: I don't know I got it. I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but it's late in the game.
Speaker 6: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got a beer waiting for me.
Speaker 6: I'll take meat.
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Speaker 3: don't know what I'm going to do on Saturday because
Speaker 3: I don't know if there's anything going on on Saturday. Sunday,
Speaker 3: I know what I'm doing Saturday, I don't know. That
Speaker 3: might be one of those where I'm I'm up early
Speaker 3: and I'm like, hun, what are we doing today? What
Speaker 3: do you need to get done?
Speaker 2: Now? She might not.
Speaker 3: Realize that they are football games on Sunday, not Saturday.
Speaker 3: But I'm going to get some store credit. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: be like, yeah, what else do we need to do?
Speaker 3: You want me to go grocery, shopping, laundry. I'll do
Speaker 3: all of them.
Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 3: A couple of phone calls in here Sebastian in Utah.
Speaker 2: Hey Sebastian, good morning fellows.
Speaker 8: Happy meat Friday.
Speaker 16: I've got two marketing ideas.
Speaker 6: Okay.
Speaker 16: First one for Klay Matthews and his gun safety initiative,
Speaker 16: they need to have dan Orlowsky as a spokesperson, play
Speaker 16: a little video of him running out the back of.
Speaker 6: The end zone, say we all know what this is,
Speaker 6: but do we know what this is?
Speaker 2: And he locks up his guns. M Okay.
Speaker 8: Now the next one.
Speaker 16: NBC dropped the ball big time with their commercial where
Speaker 16: Jason Tatum is asking if they're metal detectors or on
Speaker 16: the set of the NBC studio because he's carrying around
Speaker 16: that championship ring. Please please tell me that they called
Speaker 16: Jahn Morant to do that job first.
Speaker 3: Snarky Dang Sebastian bringing some noise here, Paul and Santa Barbara.
Speaker 7: Hi, Paul, Hey guys, good morning, five to eleven seventy five. Hey,
Speaker 7: I just want I just wanted to piggyback a little
Speaker 7: bit off with boogerm Macfartha said, you know, he's right,
Speaker 7: it's a quarterback league and they're going to protect my homes.
Speaker 7: But I'm a ramsman. After watching that game, they hit
Speaker 7: Stafford in the ribs a couple of times and took
Speaker 7: him out almost.
Speaker 2: They broke his ribs after what I think he broke
Speaker 2: four ribs.
Speaker 7: So after watching the Chiefs game, both calls were hit
Speaker 7: near the head. It's so to me it's coaching, you know,
Speaker 7: treat him like a boxer. Hit him a few times
Speaker 7: in the ribs and don't give the refs a reason
Speaker 7: to make those calls. You know, you're just giving them ammunitions.
Speaker 7: They're going to protect him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they made it easier to make that call. And
Speaker 3: you know the officials want to get it right. They're
Speaker 3: always going to air to this side of caution. But
Speaker 3: don't give them something that's so easy to call.
Speaker 13: Yeah, Paul, you mentioned that hit on Jaden Daniels last
Speaker 13: week where he's going to the sidelines. I don't think
Speaker 13: that was flagged and they hit him chest ribs area.
Speaker 3: Well, Lamar, he was going out of bounds and I
Speaker 3: thought that that was after he had gone out of bounds,
Speaker 3: and they didn't call that one either. Here's some numbers
Speaker 3: over under Saquon Barkley rushing yards just according to DraftKings.
Speaker 14: Todd one oh six and a.
Speaker 9: Half, Marvin eighty seven and a half, Seaton seventy seven
Speaker 9: and a half.
Speaker 11: Paul ninety nine and a half.
Speaker 2: One twenty seven and a half.
Speaker 14: Nah, damn three piece, damn three piece.
Speaker 2: Now they're there.
Speaker 3: They are begging you to take the under here like
Speaker 3: he'll never get to one twenty seven and a half.
Speaker 3: He might have that in the first half. Jalen Hurts
Speaker 3: rushing yards over under Todd.
Speaker 14: Thirty two and a half. That's just crazy.
Speaker 3: Damn three piece over under Josh Allen rushing yards.
Speaker 9: Marvin seventy seven and a half, fifty.
Speaker 2: Three and a half, Todd forty eight and a half.
Speaker 2: Seaton thirty four and a half, forty nine and a half.
Speaker 14: Right there, Paul, this.
Speaker 2: Day in sports history.
Speaker 11: Hold on, I'm freezing.
Speaker 15: Oh Todd nailed that one though, huh.
Speaker 14: That was one off. On the other line, I could
Speaker 14: tell you what we learned.
Speaker 13: Here's a nineteen eighty seven Walter Payton and Joe Montana
Speaker 13: were the co host on Saturday Live.
Speaker 11: Oh that best TV of all time?
Speaker 7: Todd?
Speaker 2: Would you learn today?
Speaker 1: Swayne Matthews didn't appreciate acts iident being left off the
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame nominees list by the Packers.
Speaker 14: They'll correct that next season.
Speaker 2: Seaton by Matthew's kid, No Ponytail, Marvin Fritzy Stole, Paul
Speaker 2: Hey looks young. What did I learn?
Speaker 5: Todd?
Speaker 14: There should be a way to earn points to join
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