WEBVTT - Questlove Supreme: Kid Capri Part 2 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:04.240 Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. 0:00:05.280 --> 0:00:07.880 Hi good people, This is Sugar Steed from Team Supreme. 0:00:07.960 --> 0:00:10.760 We are back with part two of our QLs interview 0:00:10.760 --> 0:00:13.760 with Kid Capri. In part one, Kids spoke about growing 0:00:13.840 --> 0:00:15.920 up just blocks away from here, a cool hurt through 0:00:16.000 --> 0:00:18.720 his first party. He also recalled digging for records in 0:00:18.760 --> 0:00:21.160 the seventies and eighties and the early inroads to his 0:00:21.239 --> 0:00:24.720 legendary career. If you haven't check out that episode. All 0:00:24.760 --> 0:00:27.280 month long, we're celebrating fifty years of hip hop at 0:00:27.320 --> 0:00:30.960 Questloft Supreme. In addition to Kid Capri, we have conversations 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:33.080 with Styles P and slum Village. 0:00:37.520 --> 0:00:41.440 What year was your first mixtape? The first? 0:00:41.680 --> 0:00:43.920 Well, keep it Bob being a star child, Chief about 0:00:43.960 --> 0:00:44.640 a star child. 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:47.440 Me and him start making tapes together when I started 0:00:47.440 --> 0:00:50.520 playing the S and s with him, and then after 0:00:50.560 --> 0:00:52.640 I left after that year a year year and a half, 0:00:52.680 --> 0:00:55.240 I left. You know, I was doing my little party 0:00:55.280 --> 0:00:57.440 Studio fifty four and stuff like that, and I just 0:00:57.440 --> 0:00:59.160 said what I'm gonna doing. I went outside. 0:00:59.400 --> 0:01:03.600 You played the studio fifty four? Absolutely, Oh WHOA tell 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:04.440 me what that shit's like? 0:01:04.680 --> 0:01:09.759 Yeah? Man, yeah, Red Alert, what happened? Was Louis Vega. 0:01:10.680 --> 0:01:13.680 Larry Levan was playing Fridays and Saturday. But they had 0:01:13.720 --> 0:01:16.320 this Wednesday that Red Alert was doing. Red Alert was 0:01:16.360 --> 0:01:19.960 going on the road with BDP. So he told the 0:01:19.959 --> 0:01:22.200 people at Studio fifty four, I want KICKI Prix to 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:24.119 be to take my spot. It was like KICKI Pree, 0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:24.480 who's that? 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:25.160 We don't know him? 0:01:25.280 --> 0:01:27.399 Like nah, He was like, yo, trust me, He's gonna 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:29.800 do what he do. When I got there, you know, 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:32.160 I turned it into pandemonium. But I was going on 0:01:32.160 --> 0:01:33.680 the regular and I was going on the club nights too. 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:35.120 I would go hang out just to be there. You 0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:36.560 know what I'm saying that I couldn't believe I was 0:01:36.560 --> 0:01:38.920 playing Studio fifty four and shit, But I went there 0:01:38.920 --> 0:01:44.440 and did my thing. This was eighty seven, eighty eight, 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:46.680 eighty seven, eighty eight, eighty. 0:01:46.560 --> 0:01:51.320 Nine around that time. Okay, I brought biz there. 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:56.240 I bought all these different groups to Studio fifty four before. Man, 0:01:56.280 --> 0:01:56.800 it was dope. 0:01:56.880 --> 0:01:57.120 It was. 0:01:57.160 --> 0:01:59.400 It was crazy, and then it got so crazy that 0:01:59.480 --> 0:02:01.800 the crowd it was just the crowds was too much. 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:05.040 They were messing up the fruit stands and I'm watching 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:08.079 the security open the door with people's heads and I 0:02:08.200 --> 0:02:09.400 just say, you know what, it would just end this. 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:11.480 But now after that, I said what I'm gonna do? 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:13.880 And I said, you know what, I'm just gonna sell 0:02:13.880 --> 0:02:16.400 my old mixtapes. And you know, so I went to 0:02:16.440 --> 0:02:19.440 Trailer Horn and I brought a hundred mixtapes. I copied 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:21.760 tapes that I had, and I made a new tape. 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:22.360 And I was. 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:26.560 Copying on these six tape decks all night, standing up tired, 0:02:26.840 --> 0:02:27.440 sitting in the hall. 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:29.040 My equipment was in a horse so you walk in 0:02:29.040 --> 0:02:29.359 the door. 0:02:29.800 --> 0:02:32.160 My equipment was right there at a one bedroom apartment 0:02:32.720 --> 0:02:35.200 and I would sit there and make these tapes. And 0:02:35.280 --> 0:02:37.079 the next day I would go outside and sit there 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:38.679 on the street corner and people will say, you know, 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:40.440 twenty hours to kick the Pretell who are you? Why 0:02:40.440 --> 0:02:41.960 would I give you twenty hours for a tape? I said, 0:02:41.960 --> 0:02:43.639 you listen to the intro of it in your car 0:02:43.680 --> 0:02:45.760 and you'll come back and buy it. Then I got gaviteed, 0:02:45.960 --> 0:02:47.520 they'll put it in the car and listen to it, 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:49.160 come back and we get that, get that, get that, 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:51.320 and next thing you know, my my tapes is in 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:54.200 every car passing by, in the cop cars in the 0:02:54.240 --> 0:02:57.120 misty softy truck, people coming off the golf wall, or 0:02:57.200 --> 0:02:59.760 your tapes and cigarettes is the biggest day. It became, 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:03.799 and then my parties became infectious. They seen how I performed. 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:06.160 And I remember I was doing LL's party one time 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:08.960 after he did the Guard and Russell Simmons walked up 0:03:09.000 --> 0:03:10.720 and was like, Yo, what do you think about being on. 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:13.920 A comedy show? It's like comedy show? What we're talking about? 0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:15.880 I was like, it was Russell Simmers shut up, go 0:03:15.960 --> 0:03:17.480 do it, and we ended up doing it next to 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:20.880 you know, I'm a superstar. I didn't even see it. 0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:22.919 I didn't even I was when we were doing the show. 0:03:23.000 --> 0:03:25.400 I wasn't even seeing that far. I'm not seeing that 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:27.840 this is going to be I'm thinking we're just doing 0:03:27.880 --> 0:03:30.800 something to have fun, you know, DJ with comedy show. 0:03:31.000 --> 0:03:31.480 That's it. 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:34.800 Studio fifty four in eighty seven, I didn't even know 0:03:34.840 --> 0:03:37.400 Studio fifty four was still around eighty seven. What records 0:03:37.440 --> 0:03:40.400 were going off back then? In Studio fifty four? What 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:41.000 were you playing? 0:03:41.520 --> 0:03:46.000 I was playing Public Enemy, playing all the Cane records, 0:03:47.360 --> 0:03:48.480 everything of that ever. 0:03:48.720 --> 0:03:49.920 Right, That's what I'm saying. 0:03:50.080 --> 0:03:53.120 Hip Mop was allowed. Wow, that's what I'm saying. 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:57.560 See, it was Levan and Louis Vega. It was all house. 0:03:57.680 --> 0:04:01.120 But Red Alert was so respected that they gave him 0:04:01.120 --> 0:04:04.320 that Wednesday was going on a tour. 0:04:04.400 --> 0:04:06.960 He needed somebody to cover. He knew, you know, and 0:04:07.000 --> 0:04:08.840 that's when he got me in. When I came in, 0:04:09.680 --> 0:04:13.920 they seen a whole new different ship. They seen the 0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:17.040 line going around the building down the street like it 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:20.600 was every time I came out. It was just panemodium 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:23.000 and I had to leave it. I didn't want to leave. 0:04:23.080 --> 0:04:25.480 I had to leave it because it got too dangerous. 0:04:26.160 --> 0:04:27.640 So you know, I ended up, and you know, and 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:31.719 then for God, thank God, the day I said, I remember, 0:04:31.920 --> 0:04:33.760 I got Bismarck got me. 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:37.080 My first album deal, right, so I'm up. I'm up 0:04:37.120 --> 0:04:37.680 in the. 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:41.560 Office, and lady start like open these four magazines and 0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:43.840 say and said Kickie Pree the only DJ in the 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:46.560 world to make millions of dollars off a street mixtape. 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:48.920 I was like, wow, So I did it. I made 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:55.839 that's you know what. I didn't want no problems right right, 0:04:56.160 --> 0:04:58.880 let me just let me just end it. And then 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:00.880 I made the last due o this tape and that 0:05:01.000 --> 0:05:03.560 was it. And then fortunately in my career, you know, 0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:06.640 went Deaf comedy jam came out and came, tours came, 0:05:07.120 --> 0:05:10.120 and I was on my way. But the mixtape had 0:05:10.120 --> 0:05:13.599 I not sat on that corner because I got girls 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:16.839 driving by, laughing at bequests like I'm doing bad, I'm pedaling, 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:18.440 I'm in. 0:05:18.520 --> 0:05:21.200 Harlem, you know what I'm saying, girls driving by. 0:05:21.440 --> 0:05:23.279 So I had to put fourteen gold chains on my 0:05:23.360 --> 0:05:25.400 neck to look like I'm doing good because I was 0:05:26.440 --> 0:05:31.919 doing something, but me not having that pride, you know, 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:35.160 willing to sit there and take that it was the 0:05:35.240 --> 0:05:35.839 right decision. 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:39.520 Okay, So you went there, and I truly wanted to 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:46.200 know how competitive is that marketplace? Again from the outside 0:05:46.200 --> 0:05:51.280 looking in? You know, when you when you're on road 0:05:51.320 --> 0:05:56.320 trips and on tour, like you make your stop to 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:59.120 your your local mom and pop spot and you just 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:01.279 buy all the mixed taps and you know he's buying 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:02.640 you and do wopping. 0:06:02.760 --> 0:06:06.720 That's and that's all these cats. But I mean, how. 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:16.400 Heavy was the territorial competition, especially with other mixtape DJs, 0:06:16.400 --> 0:06:19.839 Like are you listening to blah blah blah mixtapes to 0:06:19.839 --> 0:06:22.960 see if he's biting your mix? Or like the embities 0:06:23.000 --> 0:06:25.560 with that, like, is anyone else taking Stephanie Mills and 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:29.120 putting Overpeach the president or once in a lifetime grew 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:32.279 by new addition and you gotta go there. I know 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:36.560 it's in sort of retrospect, but how how tense, like 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:38.120 who is who is your main competition? 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:38.360 Then? 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:42.039 I had no competition when I landed. When I landed, 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:45.320 everybody wanted to be kid Capri. Everybody wanted to do 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:48.039 it to this day. You see all these DJs don't 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:51.400 disrespect as the truth. All these DJs do the kid Capri. 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:54.680 A lot of them party DJs. They do the kid 0:06:54.680 --> 0:06:57.000 Capri the way they talk, the way they play the music, 0:06:57.040 --> 0:06:59.119 the way they look. You know, I made the DJ 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:00.880 be an artist. I wanted to be looked at as 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:03.320 an artist and not somebody just playing records. I wanted 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:05.400 to be where I get on that stage next to 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:08.280 that dude that has a platinum marble, like Kelly, I'm 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:09.960 gonna make it hard for him to be on stage 0:07:09.960 --> 0:07:12.520 like That's what that was my focus, not just being 0:07:12.520 --> 0:07:15.240 a DJ playing records that people just looking at me 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:16.960 like that. So that's why I took it that way. 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:19.320 And my whole thing was I'm gonna be better than everybody. 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:21.600 I'm gonna give a show that they never seen. I'm 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:23.720 gonna made people feel like they never seen. So it 0:07:23.960 --> 0:07:27.120 called on and it made DJs around the country that 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:30.400 never spoke on the mic, never dj they never played 0:07:30.400 --> 0:07:33.160 records quick or played those type of records. See me 0:07:33.240 --> 0:07:35.360 when I come in the city and they're seeing this 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:38.120 panemonium going on, and made them do it. So this 0:07:38.200 --> 0:07:39.440 is the way you got to do it. And the 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:41.080 promoters will tell them you got to do it the 0:07:41.080 --> 0:07:43.400 way the pre do it. And those DJs say, yo, 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:45.280 I'm the top DJ. Why do you get kicked pre 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:45.920 to come to town? 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:46.600 Shut up? 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:49.000 Shut up and sit there and watch and look and 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:49.600 pay attention. 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:50.880 Where's that come from? 0:07:50.920 --> 0:07:56.920 Because for me, I just started talking maybe in twenty 0:07:56.960 --> 0:08:02.280 twenty and even down twenty twenty three, I think I've 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:06.000 waned off forty Like all right, the pandemic's over. 0:08:06.040 --> 0:08:07.080 I don't have to talk as much. 0:08:07.640 --> 0:08:09.680 I'll tak my ass off on zoom like you know 0:08:09.720 --> 0:08:15.000 what I mean, Like when I'm djaying online. But you 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:20.360 have this like bull and a China shop energy. Where 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:22.760 does that come from? Because I feel like one of 0:08:22.800 --> 0:08:25.600 the one of the hardest battles, even without the music, 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:33.200 is maintaining getting the respect that of a school bully, 0:08:33.240 --> 0:08:36.080 Like you're grabbing people by the collar when you're dressing them, 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:38.120 not like, hey, guys, how are you doing today? So 0:08:38.160 --> 0:08:40.520 I'm Kickapria. No, I'm gonna play some records and I 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:42.480 hope you enjoy it, like you're not that kind of like, 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:44.240 So where does that come from? Where do you learn 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:44.960 that from? 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:47.120 Like I told you, I'm a fan of it. 0:08:47.559 --> 0:08:51.320 So it's a certain amount of keep in mind, we're 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:54.559 looked at as DJ's that just played. DJ's looked at 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:57.520 somebody just play records. What's gonna make me any more 0:08:57.559 --> 0:09:03.160 special than anybody else? Right, So I gotta add something 0:09:04.160 --> 0:09:06.400 that means, something that's gonna make people say, oh wait 0:09:06.400 --> 0:09:09.680 a minute, it's different. Not only that, it's just a 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:13.800 feeling in me. Look, I had to surgery recently. Right 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:16.120 after that the BT Awards, I had surgery. They took 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:20.400 my thigh words out all right, right. I had shows 0:09:20.400 --> 0:09:24.040 books that I couldn't canceled. I didn't cancel the show, 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:26.240 and I told the promoters, y'all, I'm not gonna really 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:29.040 speak on a mac like that while I'm on stage. 0:09:29.120 --> 0:09:31.559 You know. But then I get on there and it's 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:35.520 a different thing. It's a feeling that I get that 0:09:35.600 --> 0:09:38.720 I want people to feel. So it comes with me 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:39.760 screaming it. 0:09:39.760 --> 0:09:40.199 It's like. 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:44.120 I can't really explain it. It's like I gotta scream 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:47.240 it out. I gotta, especially when it's at that point 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:50.200 where I know these people are gonna go so crazy? 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:52.520 How can I make me even go that much more 0:09:52.520 --> 0:09:55.240 crazy in that instant? And it's my voice? 0:09:56.200 --> 0:09:56.360 Yo? 0:09:56.480 --> 0:09:58.920 A question about your voice? Is that your voice on 0:09:59.400 --> 0:10:04.320 Party Groove show vis Yeah? What are you saying? 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:07.600 Yeah? What are you saying? Stretching? Ben? I bet you 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:08.719 give me yoga instructions. 0:10:09.320 --> 0:10:12.320 That was a live show that I did in the 0:10:12.400 --> 0:10:13.560 Powerhouse where they made. 0:10:13.400 --> 0:10:15.160 The Juice movie at Okay. 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:17.600 That's the reason why they made the Juice movie there 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:21.240 because I made the Powerhouse Hot Downtown and on the 0:10:21.320 --> 0:10:24.719 tape I would do I would make the peak like 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:28.000 I would saying, do the bind and stretch, keeping going 0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:32.720 through the bin and go Ben. I'm making people dance, 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:35.560 Ben and stretch in the party in the club. 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:38.240 Oh wow, Okay, So I know You're. 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:45.559 Show being sampled the mixtape the record and it became 0:10:45.640 --> 0:10:50.600 the first party group record, Ben and Stretch, keeping going 0:10:50.679 --> 0:10:54.280 through the bin and stretching that you're Ben and Stretch. 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:55.280 That's all I'm saying. 0:10:55.559 --> 0:10:58.160 But everybody around the world says, yo kid, what are 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:01.520 you saying? But it called it the way it sound 0:11:02.160 --> 0:11:04.240 made it, you know, with something sounds good, it is good, 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:07.640 as James Brod, So they didn't know what I was saying, 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:13.880 but it sounded good. But my record Uptown with my 0:11:14.000 --> 0:11:16.240 daughter that saw my on my album The Love that Sound, 0:11:16.280 --> 0:11:18.720 Now I did it again. I did the bending stretch 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:20.480 on the end of that record, so it's it's it's 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:25.000 ah And now the Zooma uses that record in there Zoomba. 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:27.840 Uh excuse it's crazy except me. 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:31.640 Your video the whole super class big super class dances 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:34.640 the Uptown so that many stretch definitely worked. 0:11:34.360 --> 0:11:39.079 Out James and made Booker's is the big biggest thing. 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:46.480 Yeah, why is that record? When we when we interviewed him. 0:11:46.960 --> 0:11:51.160 Got me rest in peace, got rest and so yeah. 0:11:50.320 --> 0:11:51.000 What was it? 0:11:51.800 --> 0:11:55.120 First of all, did you produce that on Grandpoop's record? Yeah, 0:11:56.040 --> 0:12:02.600 of course you did. Like I'm trying to do the 0:12:02.640 --> 0:12:05.960 math in my head because even when I got the record, 0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:11.000 I'm like what I listened to this soundtrack to even 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:14.240 know that, and it's so unusual. 0:12:14.640 --> 0:12:18.920 It's a very unusual break that it's not. 0:12:19.720 --> 0:12:21.800 It's not a substitution. 0:12:22.000 --> 0:12:25.679 Yeah, yeah, it's such a weird it works. 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:28.280 But even then I was just like, wait a minute, 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:29.640 why would he sample it? 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:30.439 What? 0:12:30.640 --> 0:12:33.000 What is your relationship to to biggest theme? 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:34.160 Uh? 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:37.040 It was just a dope joke that I think I 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:39.160 heard Blousy had played it one time. 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:41.880 Blucy b Yeah, I think I heard. 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:45.680 Blucy played it with rock Kim Dad. What did I 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:47.840 hear to that? I heard I think Boosey played it. 0:12:49.040 --> 0:12:51.439 And you know, we would take like all right, perfect example, 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:55.360 like mister me Forster Silver that record made in nineteen 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:58.480 seventy two, The record was over there with made It Hot, 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:03.520 made the Top, you know all these records that was 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:07.240 over As a matter of fact, Take six I put. 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:11.400 I put Spread Love on that tape and Take six 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:14.439 in twenty twenty reached out to me kid. 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:18.560 He said, Yo, we made that record for the gospel people. 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:22.160 You put that record on your tape and put us 0:13:22.160 --> 0:13:25.440 on the worldwide tour, so we want you to remix 0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:27.960 the song. I did a remix of spread love with 0:13:28.160 --> 0:13:31.520 takes six in twenty twenty. It's called Spread Love twenty twenty. 0:13:31.559 --> 0:13:33.680 This shit is crazy, the beats, the drumk is crazy. 0:13:33.960 --> 0:13:34.360 Everything. 0:13:34.679 --> 0:13:37.880 So they they they were so they had so much 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:40.480 gratitude would be putting it on them that they came 0:13:40.520 --> 0:13:41.600 back and asked me to produce that. 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:42.640 I was so happy for that. 0:13:43.040 --> 0:13:46.160 But you're the one that's responsible for that. Spread Love 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:48.480 mixed with I Contina Turn a Break Under. 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:51.319 That's forty five K. I did a real. 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:54.960 Remix for Thrill John. Okay, okay, okay, keep in mind 0:13:55.640 --> 0:13:56.640 that record. 0:13:57.520 --> 0:14:00.440 It really had nothing to do with what else was 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:01.079 on the tape. 0:14:01.800 --> 0:14:02.400 It was like. 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:05.160 Everything else on the different so far away from everything else. 0:14:05.600 --> 0:14:07.960 But that's what I'm trying to say. I go by 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:11.480 what is hot, what is good, and it doesn't have 0:14:11.640 --> 0:14:14.080 to make sense. It'll makes sense after I make it 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:17.120 make sense. I think like that, Like it don't happen. 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:18.920 If you listen to my show on Serious Sex, Some 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:24.120 Fly the Block Party, you hear Young and Me and 0:14:24.200 --> 0:14:26.840 here Al Green. After you hear, you know what I'm saying, 0:14:26.840 --> 0:14:29.240 Like you never know what you're gonna hear, and that's 0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:30.720 what makes it so so. 0:14:32.160 --> 0:14:33.040 Yeah, yeah, there you go. 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:40.160 You know, you're you're like the king of the mashup 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:44.400 to me marrying you know, worlds of stuff. So what 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:51.239 do you consider like your signature mix that that is exclusively, 0:14:51.520 --> 0:14:55.440 exclusively yours, And what do you consider the mix that 0:14:55.680 --> 0:14:58.720 like the first time he did it, the entire crowd 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:00.600 with ape shit, like what the. 0:15:00.520 --> 0:15:02.600 Fuck is that we could go? 0:15:02.920 --> 0:15:04.680 We go up to something the way you make me 0:15:04.720 --> 0:15:07.240 feel with the piece of President that changed the whole 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:10.680 Army be game. Now you had to make BONDB records 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:13.600 with Breakbeast. That's how Mary and all these things came 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:17.880 about because nobody heard it that way before, you know 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:20.200 what I'm saying, and it just changed the whole game. 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:21.960 So that was one of the things. But there's so 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:23.000 many things. 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:25.520 Let me just let our listeners know that, yes, both 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:30.640 and Mary credit you when they heard that Stephanie Mills 0:15:31.000 --> 0:15:33.320 something the way you make me feel a cappella, which 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:37.240 is unusual to be on a twelve inch like you know, 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:39.800 the idea of an R and B a cappella. 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:42.960 At that time, right, very unusual. 0:15:44.000 --> 0:15:46.840 So instantly, I you know, we're sparks going on in your head, 0:15:46.880 --> 0:15:47.720 like yo, what the hell? 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:49.240 Like I can do anything with this or. 0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:53.480 The full circle was when me and Stephanie did it live. 0:15:53.640 --> 0:15:55.080 I remember you came with the me ucl kid. 0:15:55.080 --> 0:15:55.800 I was hip hop. 0:15:55.880 --> 0:15:57.920 Tell that story of how you got something to do 0:15:57.960 --> 0:15:58.320 it with you. 0:15:58.520 --> 0:16:02.600 What happened was I've been doing Indiana Black Explode with 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:06.160 Ann Paris, the promoter for twenty something years every year. 0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:11.840 An Paris now manages Stephanie Mills. So I was doing 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:15.440 a show for him out there in Indiana. He told 0:16:15.520 --> 0:16:18.520 Stephanie Mills the story about what I did with the record, 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:21.280 and he had her coming to Indiana without me knowing. 0:16:21.760 --> 0:16:26.920 So I was on stage, she was right there and he' said, yo, 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:29.760 little Steph, I bought Stephi out here for you. I 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:32.800 was like talking about she came out. 0:16:32.800 --> 0:16:33.600 I never met her. 0:16:34.480 --> 0:16:36.480 She didn't know nothing about what was going on until 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:39.960 we told her she had this big shit reck. She 0:16:40.080 --> 0:16:42.000 knew what her record was to her, but in the 0:16:42.080 --> 0:16:45.160 street she had no idea what was going on. So 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:49.560 when we did it then, it wasn't rehearsed. Like I said, 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:51.280 I never met her. It was my first time meeting 0:16:51.360 --> 0:16:54.080 up and we did that shit on the spot. And 0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:56.600 if you remember, she was going to keep going and 0:16:56.640 --> 0:16:58.760 I stopped. I said, that's it, that's all I need. 0:16:58.800 --> 0:16:59.160 I'm good. 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:03.480 I felt like be stopping up and it being short 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:05.720 would make more of an impact than me having to 0:17:05.840 --> 0:17:08.040 do the whole thing. That's just the way I thought 0:17:08.080 --> 0:17:10.639 at the time. But just her being there with me 0:17:11.160 --> 0:17:14.399 and seeing a visuated. When I touched your heart, I 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:17.359 know I did something when you when you rolled up 0:17:17.359 --> 0:17:19.160 on me a jazzy Jeff's cuip. He was like, okay, 0:17:19.320 --> 0:17:22.400 that right there. When you said that, I was like, yeah, 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:23.280 I did something. 0:17:25.680 --> 0:17:28.520 Questions reserve. You don't say too much, you know, So 0:17:28.640 --> 0:17:30.240 if you say something like. 0:17:31.760 --> 0:17:37.800 I'm excited about stuff, I'm excited about stuff, what would 0:17:37.840 --> 0:17:39.720 you consider you're. 0:17:41.080 --> 0:17:42.360 What's a hard market? 0:17:42.720 --> 0:17:48.000 Have you ever met a marketplace in which they're like. 0:17:46.480 --> 0:17:47.760 Like down South for instance? 0:17:49.720 --> 0:17:52.600 Really every crowd I get into, I whip it down. 0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:54.680 That's what I do, no matter where it's at, no 0:17:54.680 --> 0:18:00.000 matter what what the situation is. Because my whole attitude 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:03.480 was know what's going on in that city that city. 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:05.480 Don't care about what's going on in New York. They 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:07.640 care about what's going on in that city. So find 0:18:07.640 --> 0:18:09.680 a DJ that's there, find out what's going on. And 0:18:09.760 --> 0:18:11.439 when he when he tells you what's going on, you 0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:13.439 know what's going on. Bringing that DJ out, show the 0:18:13.480 --> 0:18:15.359 respect to that DJ and put him on stage and 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:18.399 let everybody know, this is just this city's DJ. You 0:18:18.400 --> 0:18:19.920 know what I'm saying. You were a guess in their house. 0:18:20.359 --> 0:18:23.200 And with that, all the information from different places were 0:18:23.200 --> 0:18:24.880 coming to me. I would stay on top of what's 0:18:24.880 --> 0:18:26.680 going on over here, what's going on with this side 0:18:26.680 --> 0:18:27.159 of the country. 0:18:27.400 --> 0:18:27.800 I was. 0:18:27.960 --> 0:18:29.440 It was just the way I did things. 0:18:29.680 --> 0:18:31.879 And with me doing that, with me going to experience 0:18:31.920 --> 0:18:34.560 it and do it, it made me learn how to 0:18:34.600 --> 0:18:36.360 stay do it everywhere else. 0:18:36.440 --> 0:18:37.440 So I never had a. 0:18:38.040 --> 0:18:42.080 Got booed, never a crowd walked out on me, never 0:18:42.119 --> 0:18:44.760 been a thing where people wasn't happy or somebody says 0:18:44.760 --> 0:18:47.239 some crazy shit in the crowd or through something that. 0:18:47.280 --> 0:18:50.320 Never been under that. It always been people happy. And 0:18:50.359 --> 0:18:53.240 I'm blessed. I'm very happy for that, very blessed in 0:18:53.240 --> 0:18:55.800 that way for that to happen, because, like I said, 0:18:55.800 --> 0:18:57.439 I'm a fan of it, and I know how I 0:18:57.480 --> 0:19:01.080 want to feel. If I paid my money, I gotta 0:19:01.200 --> 0:19:05.159 drive to get there. If I have a car, I 0:19:05.200 --> 0:19:08.040 gotta buy clothes to wear to be there. I gotta 0:19:08.160 --> 0:19:11.000 pay to get in. I gotta buy drinks. If somebody's 0:19:11.000 --> 0:19:12.520 gonna buy them a drinking I'm mor. 0:19:12.640 --> 0:19:14.640 I might have had to hire a babysit or something too, 0:19:14.800 --> 0:19:15.160 Like you. 0:19:15.080 --> 0:19:18.200 Know, all these things I got to do because kicking 0:19:18.240 --> 0:19:19.760 freeze in the building. How do I not get the 0:19:19.760 --> 0:19:21.560 best I can get it? You know what I'm saying? 0:19:21.600 --> 0:19:24.479 Like I think like that. And then there's a reverse 0:19:24.480 --> 0:19:27.800 two way. People don't think about what you had to 0:19:27.800 --> 0:19:29.880 do to get to the event, if you had traffic, 0:19:30.000 --> 0:19:33.320 lost your bags, you know, did you eat? Are you sick? 0:19:33.359 --> 0:19:35.760 Do you feel? All they do is the end RESULTE 0:19:35.880 --> 0:19:37.639 I wanted, I want my show. I went what I 0:19:37.680 --> 0:19:39.960 paid for. I paid for that. They don't know nothing, 0:19:40.119 --> 0:19:41.400 So it works both ways. 0:19:41.720 --> 0:19:44.480 There is a moment in two thousand. 0:19:45.960 --> 0:19:49.480 There was a moment in two thousand and five in which, 0:19:49.480 --> 0:19:53.159 for the very first time, I played the horn intro 0:19:53.440 --> 0:19:59.080 to Troy and I didn't get that scream yeah, like 0:19:59.160 --> 0:20:01.919 you know what happens when you play that intro when 0:20:01.960 --> 0:20:03.679 you used to play the intro, Like the choice is 0:20:03.720 --> 0:20:06.800 yours and you know for the longest, Like one of 0:20:06.800 --> 0:20:11.080 my signature things would be like play Troy right after 0:20:11.160 --> 0:20:16.080 like scenario, who's that ramp in a place like start 0:20:16.160 --> 0:20:19.119 high fiving and crying and hugging, And there was a 0:20:19.160 --> 0:20:24.080 moment where that didn't happen and I was like, oh shit, 0:20:24.560 --> 0:20:27.120 I gotta adjust it and adjust fact like I never 0:20:27.240 --> 0:20:30.240 had a Quiet Troy moment in my life. How long 0:20:30.280 --> 0:20:36.399 did it take you to really truly adjust to be 0:20:36.480 --> 0:20:42.240 in an open format DJ and like embrace things because 0:20:42.560 --> 0:20:45.760 you know, as open minded as I would like our 0:20:45.800 --> 0:20:49.240 listeners to think I am. You know, and I've explained 0:20:49.240 --> 0:20:52.640 this before on the show that as an individual course, 0:20:52.680 --> 0:20:55.320 we know that we have our opinions of what good 0:20:55.359 --> 0:20:57.600 music is and what bad music is. But then as 0:20:57.640 --> 0:21:02.080 a DJ, I have opinion on what is effective for 0:21:02.200 --> 0:21:04.840 my DJ set and not effective for my DJ set, 0:21:05.400 --> 0:21:09.080 And oftentimes with those four things good, bad, effective, non effective, 0:21:10.119 --> 0:21:13.000 Like what's effective for my DJ sets now is stuff 0:21:13.040 --> 0:21:17.159 that I personally wouldn't listen to, but I know works 0:21:17.200 --> 0:21:20.840 for my set. Right, So you know, there's like maybe 0:21:20.880 --> 0:21:24.320 a year or two where I just wrestled with damn, 0:21:24.400 --> 0:21:28.359 do I just or do I just like fight and 0:21:28.520 --> 0:21:30.000 only play to my audience? Like? 0:21:30.040 --> 0:21:31.280 How long did it take you. 0:21:32.880 --> 0:21:37.600 To just start adjusting? To a new atmosphere and new generations. 0:21:38.600 --> 0:21:41.320 There's plenty of records I hate that I play that 0:21:41.480 --> 0:21:46.640 only but it's not about me, you're saying, it's about 0:21:46.359 --> 0:21:51.960 that boom and you know, so that right there automatically 0:21:52.000 --> 0:21:54.040 makes you know that you have to step out of 0:21:54.040 --> 0:21:59.160 your own personal feeling and adjust to what they want, 0:21:59.400 --> 0:22:02.080 because that's the end result. A lot of DJ sometimes 0:22:02.680 --> 0:22:06.640 they missed the mark because they feel like they don't 0:22:06.680 --> 0:22:09.480 like this record, so it shouldn't be played at the 0:22:09.560 --> 0:22:12.200 end of the day, you know, Like I said that 0:22:12.280 --> 0:22:14.960 stuff that I might play that I don't. I don't 0:22:15.000 --> 0:22:18.680 really care for much to but I see, but I'll 0:22:18.680 --> 0:22:20.880 see a crowd go crazy to it, and it'll make 0:22:20.920 --> 0:22:22.880 me like it. I might not even like the song 0:22:22.880 --> 0:22:24.440 at first, but once I see a crowd lose it, 0:22:24.600 --> 0:22:26.959 lose it to it, it'll make me say, all right, well, 0:22:27.000 --> 0:22:28.720 I could adjust to it all you know, it will 0:22:28.720 --> 0:22:29.960 make me lacking in some kind of way. 0:22:30.000 --> 0:22:33.040 But let me ask you, and I'll let's use an 0:22:33.040 --> 0:22:35.080 example from twenty five years ago, so you don't have 0:22:35.119 --> 0:22:38.119 to be like now, like man fuck Ice, Spice or whatever. 0:22:38.160 --> 0:22:45.800 I don't know, is there an album that is there 0:22:45.840 --> 0:22:50.399 a song that you acknowledge as a classic now that 0:22:50.560 --> 0:22:54.040 maybe twenty five years ago you were like, I'm not 0:22:54.040 --> 0:22:56.960 feeling this like it took you long to like adjust 0:22:56.960 --> 0:22:57.240 to it. 0:22:58.000 --> 0:23:02.199 Biggie Biggie Biggie. You don't like half the times loved it. 0:23:02.240 --> 0:23:03.000 I hated the hook. 0:23:05.040 --> 0:23:06.320 You known mean it was a smart hook. 0:23:06.840 --> 0:23:10.280 I hated the hook at first. At first, I couldn't 0:23:10.359 --> 0:23:13.360 stand the hook. Biggie Biggie Biggie. I just couldn't stay. 0:23:13.400 --> 0:23:15.920 I just didn't like it. But the record was dope. 0:23:15.920 --> 0:23:16.560 The loop, you know. 0:23:17.119 --> 0:23:19.880 You know what I'm saying. The record was dope. 0:23:19.880 --> 0:23:21.840 So and then after I guess you hear it a 0:23:21.960 --> 0:23:23.680 certain way, I didn't you start like Then after a 0:23:23.720 --> 0:23:26.000 while I was like, ah yeah. But at first it 0:23:26.080 --> 0:23:27.720 was like, damn all, should have did a different hook. 0:23:28.160 --> 0:23:29.800 But I was wrong. 0:23:30.680 --> 0:23:32.919 It was effective. It was effective. You know. 0:23:33.160 --> 0:23:36.000 It was sometimes a lot of times I guess what's 0:23:36.000 --> 0:23:36.640 going to be a hit. 0:23:37.040 --> 0:23:38.840 But you know, I'm not a robot. 0:23:38.920 --> 0:23:40.959 Sometime I missed you know what I'm saying, or you know, 0:23:42.040 --> 0:23:45.560 I like listen, but sometimes I missed it. You see 0:23:45.560 --> 0:23:48.520 what it is, you know, But me and you would 0:23:48.520 --> 0:23:52.080 have never made a laughy Taffy beat. We would have 0:23:52.119 --> 0:23:55.600 never wrote that, not that it's bad for them, we 0:23:55.640 --> 0:23:56.680 would have never did that. 0:23:56.920 --> 0:23:58.399 We would have probably passed it on it. 0:23:58.480 --> 0:24:02.400 But look front of it on Laughy Taffy for its 0:24:02.720 --> 0:24:03.760 initial run. 0:24:05.119 --> 0:24:07.080 Right, and it's a classic. 0:24:07.160 --> 0:24:07.320 Now. 0:24:09.000 --> 0:24:12.280 When I I was gonna say I played Laughing Taffy 0:24:12.680 --> 0:24:15.880 the first time I did the goal party for the Carters, 0:24:16.359 --> 0:24:18.760 I was like, all right, let me reach into my 0:24:18.920 --> 0:24:21.840 second generation Southern bag that I would have otherwise ignored 0:24:21.880 --> 0:24:25.000 on my own gigs, right, and just the way that 0:24:25.000 --> 0:24:27.800 they were going to ape shit about it, I was like, yo, 0:24:28.040 --> 0:24:28.760 I was wrong. 0:24:29.040 --> 0:24:34.560 Like if I played Laughy Taffy the snock records, they lose, 0:24:34.640 --> 0:24:37.600 they got theirn mind. It don't matter what age it is, 0:24:37.960 --> 0:24:39.959 you know what I'm saying, because it was just that 0:24:40.359 --> 0:24:41.240 time and moment. 0:24:41.320 --> 0:24:41.880 You know what I'm saying. 0:24:42.000 --> 0:24:46.199 And most dance records like that, boarded down records for 0:24:46.240 --> 0:24:47.720 some reason, it just works. 0:24:48.280 --> 0:24:51.080 Or you went there briefly. 0:24:51.160 --> 0:24:56.000 But of course your tenure with I mean, would you 0:24:56.000 --> 0:25:00.359 consider yourself a Juice Cup member or no? 0:25:01.440 --> 0:25:04.960 Okay, I just saw cold Chilling Bear's got me. 0:25:05.160 --> 0:25:08.680 Granddaddy, I you and business brother domondchelle A production. 0:25:09.280 --> 0:25:09.440 Uh. 0:25:09.440 --> 0:25:12.359 He had a production deal. And it was crazy. 0:25:12.160 --> 0:25:14.280 Because when Ben's got me that day, I wasn't even 0:25:14.320 --> 0:25:16.520 looking for our deal. I wasn't even thinking about our deal. 0:25:16.560 --> 0:25:18.960 And remember I was leaving studio fifty four. Bez pulled 0:25:19.000 --> 0:25:21.000 up on me with the car right on the corner 0:25:21.040 --> 0:25:22.600 and he said, OK, we'll get you out and there 0:25:22.600 --> 0:25:26.160 I said, shut up, shut up. So then one day 0:25:26.440 --> 0:25:28.520 he came in. They seen me on a rutker. Matter 0:25:28.520 --> 0:25:30.280 of fact, the day that he pulled up on me 0:25:30.320 --> 0:25:32.719 a rutcker, he said, kid, come in cook here, I'm 0:25:32.720 --> 0:25:37.040 gonna show you something and he played you, god, what 0:25:37.200 --> 0:25:37.960 our seal beers? 0:25:37.960 --> 0:25:38.479 You bucket? 0:25:39.080 --> 0:25:40.880 You really gonna put this out? That's what I said, 0:25:41.040 --> 0:25:42.080 You really gonna put this out? 0:25:42.320 --> 0:25:44.919 He was like what what? 0:25:45.680 --> 0:25:48.840 And he put the record out. We on tour, we 0:25:49.160 --> 0:25:54.000 go crowd mosing their bodies. I was playing, yo, pull 0:25:54.119 --> 0:25:58.000 it off, and it worked and he got me by deal. 0:25:59.200 --> 0:26:01.280 Like I said, even worked the deal. You gotta be 0:26:01.280 --> 0:26:02.600 the deal because I was hot. 0:26:02.600 --> 0:26:04.199 He could have gave that deal to anybody else that 0:26:04.280 --> 0:26:05.840 was a real rapper, you know what I'm saying. 0:26:05.880 --> 0:26:07.440 I was robbing on the record of the tape. 0:26:07.480 --> 0:26:08.960 So I was trying to be a rapper, like even 0:26:08.960 --> 0:26:11.000 with bib about right now, I'm not trying to be 0:26:11.040 --> 0:26:11.959 a rap on stage. 0:26:11.960 --> 0:26:13.320 I just want music in the world. 0:26:13.320 --> 0:26:15.280 But at the time, you know, he could have gave 0:26:15.320 --> 0:26:18.680 that to somebody that really really was good, you know 0:26:18.680 --> 0:26:20.560 what I'm saying. But he he you know, he really 0:26:20.600 --> 0:26:21.960 gave it to be And I've always gonna be a 0:26:22.000 --> 0:26:23.680 dead or to day. I really appreciated that. 0:26:23.760 --> 0:26:27.560 You know, have you dj' for I don't want to 0:26:27.560 --> 0:26:30.160 say a pedestrian rapper, but I mean, I know you 0:26:30.200 --> 0:26:33.280 are kick Capri like you DJ your own, but have 0:26:33.400 --> 0:26:38.240 you done any any tenures with like at NMC that 0:26:38.400 --> 0:26:41.800 needs like I know a few times like Biggie. We'll 0:26:41.840 --> 0:26:44.119 go back and forth on DJ's and whatnot. 0:26:44.640 --> 0:26:47.000 Pinny me Joy was me and rock Kim did this tour. 0:26:48.680 --> 0:26:50.920 Oh okay, this was a crazy tour. 0:26:51.040 --> 0:26:53.800 Me and rock Kim did Uh when I went on 0:26:53.880 --> 0:26:58.320 tours Salt Pepper, That's right, you were DJ DJ for 0:26:58.440 --> 0:27:00.800 Salt Pepper, DJ for KIPT played the very first tour, 0:27:00.880 --> 0:27:04.040 the Public Get to Be Greatest Hip Hop Show tour. 0:27:04.240 --> 0:27:06.760 It was thirteen groups on that tour. I was helping 0:27:06.800 --> 0:27:08.200 him on that, but. 0:27:08.119 --> 0:27:11.880 I never really played behind a lot of people KRS 0:27:11.960 --> 0:27:15.800 one of course, but not really a whole lot of 0:27:15.800 --> 0:27:17.640 people because people always looked at me as a one 0:27:17.640 --> 0:27:22.040 man band. I guess, I guess that's what it is. 0:27:22.080 --> 0:27:23.920 I guess the perception is that he didn't he don't 0:27:24.000 --> 0:27:26.920 want to play for nobody behind you know, behind nobody. 0:27:28.040 --> 0:27:29.240 So but yeah, but. 0:27:31.280 --> 0:27:32.800 When I went on tour with them, I didn't play 0:27:32.800 --> 0:27:34.240 behind him. I went on tour with them as a 0:27:34.240 --> 0:27:36.399 matter of fact. But Jennifer Lopez, she wanted to be 0:27:36.400 --> 0:27:38.119 behind it. Like there's a lot of people that reached out. 0:27:38.200 --> 0:27:40.439 It just didn't work out because of the time. I felt 0:27:40.440 --> 0:27:41.960 like if me and Kendrick Lamar would have went on 0:27:42.080 --> 0:27:45.560 tour together, you know the Political Ward album you put 0:27:45.600 --> 0:27:47.280 me on ask the only hip hop album want the 0:27:47.320 --> 0:27:49.800 Polical Water. Deeply Gready put me in voice. He put 0:27:49.840 --> 0:27:51.800 my voices in place around the country I've never been to. 0:27:52.200 --> 0:27:54.760 So I'm deeply and grady for that, grateful for that 0:27:54.920 --> 0:27:56.399 and loved the fact that he did that. 0:27:56.560 --> 0:27:57.240 And when I was in the. 0:27:57.200 --> 0:27:59.600 Studio with my ass, I said, Yo, you could have 0:27:59.640 --> 0:28:03.400 got DJ Battlecat or you know, DJ Pooh, these dudes 0:28:03.400 --> 0:28:04.880 a legends. You could have got them on the album 0:28:04.880 --> 0:28:06.440 The West Coast, you know. He was like, yo, I 0:28:06.520 --> 0:28:08.159 love the dudes and everything. He was like, but I 0:28:08.320 --> 0:28:10.240 know what you did for the music business. I know 0:28:10.320 --> 0:28:11.440 what you did for DJs. 0:28:11.480 --> 0:28:12.200 I know what you did. 0:28:12.320 --> 0:28:15.800 I wanted that authenticity on this album. I was like, Wow, 0:28:15.880 --> 0:28:17.960 he really knew who he was, so i't have to 0:28:18.040 --> 0:28:19.920 really explain that he would have got it. And he 0:28:20.000 --> 0:28:20.960 put me on that album. 0:28:21.560 --> 0:28:24.119 And how crazy was the effect afterwards? 0:28:25.359 --> 0:28:28.520 Amazing? Man, I couldn't believe it. It was like it 0:28:28.640 --> 0:28:29.359 was crazy, you know. 0:28:30.119 --> 0:28:32.440 And keep in mind he brought me to There might 0:28:32.520 --> 0:28:34.760 be kids that don't know about kicking Pree never had 0:28:34.760 --> 0:28:36.560 any kicking pre spad. I don't know nothing about me. 0:28:36.720 --> 0:28:38.960 He brought me to those people, you know what I'm saying. 0:28:39.080 --> 0:28:41.760 Like I said, he put my voices in countries I 0:28:41.880 --> 0:28:44.920 never been to. It's a Poliza album like it never 0:28:45.600 --> 0:28:48.320 no ever, no other hip hop album ever in history. 0:28:48.760 --> 0:28:52.600 This is a milestone. So she could have did so 0:28:52.840 --> 0:28:55.400 much more, like going on toward with each other. And 0:28:56.600 --> 0:28:58.560 he didn't need me, of course, because you know he 0:28:58.680 --> 0:29:01.560 is what he did, been me and him together just 0:29:01.680 --> 0:29:05.000 doing certain things, it would have been it'd have been special. 0:29:05.400 --> 0:29:08.200 So but like I said, he's already special, so it 0:29:08.320 --> 0:29:08.960 was all good. 0:29:13.480 --> 0:29:13.560 Cake. 0:29:13.600 --> 0:29:15.680 You talking about your transition into the production game. 0:29:16.360 --> 0:29:18.720 I was always making beats. My first album that Biz 0:29:18.880 --> 0:29:21.520 got me. It says biz production. Biz produced it. But 0:29:21.560 --> 0:29:24.120 I produced the album Being Coolie, and then I produced 0:29:24.160 --> 0:29:29.200 the soundtrack the Streets album with Jay and did that 0:29:29.280 --> 0:29:32.200 whole album. And then I just did this album that 0:29:32.440 --> 0:29:35.760 the Love Album, The Love Album in the pandemic. I'm 0:29:35.760 --> 0:29:38.320 seeing a lot of ship to stuff that I was 0:29:38.320 --> 0:29:39.720 a lot of agree with it. I said, you know what, 0:29:39.800 --> 0:29:41.920 let me just do something different and I won't slack 0:29:42.000 --> 0:29:45.440 key and came out good. I recorded it, goveled my 0:29:45.560 --> 0:29:47.240 hair on my shoulders and said keep going. So I 0:29:47.360 --> 0:29:49.120 just said him doing the album, I put slack key 0:29:49.160 --> 0:29:50.640 out of it. How did I get the response? I 0:29:50.760 --> 0:29:52.320 want to dabble with a never see the out light 0:29:52.360 --> 0:29:54.880 a day. But it was good response and I put 0:29:54.960 --> 0:29:56.840 down the mouth. Great response and have a guy work 0:29:56.840 --> 0:29:59.440 complained about it. A lot of different artists snoopid. Different 0:29:59.480 --> 0:30:02.720 people will call congratulated. Nobody seen this coming because of 0:30:02.800 --> 0:30:05.200 robbing on it. My last album is twenty four years ago. 0:30:05.920 --> 0:30:09.800 You know, music business is different. I had everything against 0:30:09.880 --> 0:30:11.520 me with this album, but I didn't I didn't care 0:30:11.520 --> 0:30:13.320 about that. I just wanted to put it out, and 0:30:13.800 --> 0:30:16.719 you know it worked out. But yeah, it's gotta keep 0:30:16.760 --> 0:30:17.160 going with it. 0:30:17.840 --> 0:30:20.720 I wanted to ask you particularly about Nothing Belove Heavy, 0:30:20.800 --> 0:30:23.040 du do you remember what do you remember about that 0:30:23.160 --> 0:30:24.719 session working with him? 0:30:25.160 --> 0:30:29.320 Nothing Beloved was a different beat, and when we were 0:30:29.320 --> 0:30:33.320 in the studio, I just said it didn't match what 0:30:33.480 --> 0:30:35.320 I was trying to do with him, So I changed it, 0:30:35.440 --> 0:30:37.320 and I went in my bag and pulled out the 0:30:37.400 --> 0:30:39.720 Eight Games and put the eight Games on the band, 0:30:40.680 --> 0:30:44.040 put the drums, and then he caught writer his block 0:30:44.560 --> 0:30:48.000 and he couldn't write. He couldn't write. So did so 0:30:48.080 --> 0:30:50.920 I wrote the half. I wrote half of the second verse, 0:30:51.120 --> 0:30:53.480 and I wrote I wrote half of the second version. 0:30:53.520 --> 0:30:56.200 I wrote the last verse, and then we end up 0:30:56.200 --> 0:30:59.960 doing the record, and then the c CNY tragedy happened. 0:31:00.480 --> 0:31:02.680 But the nine people died. One of my friends, Jule, 0:31:02.760 --> 0:31:04.160 he was one of the people that passed away. 0:31:04.680 --> 0:31:05.880 You were there at TCN one. 0:31:06.560 --> 0:31:08.880 No, my daughter's mother, she was there. She was putting 0:31:08.960 --> 0:31:13.200 bodies out. She pulled father MC's daughter's mother, father MC's 0:31:13.960 --> 0:31:16.080 girl who was pregnant at the time. 0:31:17.000 --> 0:31:20.600 And she passed away. She pulled her out. Oh no, wow, yeah, 0:31:20.960 --> 0:31:22.160 you my friend. 0:31:22.400 --> 0:31:24.239 He was the only dude there was only there's only 0:31:24.320 --> 0:31:27.920 two castles in New York, one of Yonder's, one on 0:31:28.000 --> 0:31:30.440 my block and my block kings with Terraces, where they 0:31:30.480 --> 0:31:31.760 made the movie The Wanderer was at. 0:31:32.200 --> 0:31:32.640 So you look. 0:31:32.640 --> 0:31:34.320 If you wish to watch the movie The Waders, you'll 0:31:34.320 --> 0:31:37.280 see my block. The wrong king was Terrice. This capsule 0:31:37.360 --> 0:31:39.760 he lived in. He was twenty five years old. Ever 0:31:39.880 --> 0:31:42.040 had sex. It was waiting until you had the a 0:31:42.120 --> 0:31:44.880 wife before he had sex. And he was killed in 0:31:44.960 --> 0:31:48.440 this CCN wide thing. And I remember Heavy d had 0:31:48.480 --> 0:31:51.760 to show with the Garden and he was because he 0:31:51.800 --> 0:31:53.560 had something to do with the event. He just wasn't there, 0:31:53.640 --> 0:31:55.440 but he was one of the promoters and he had 0:31:55.440 --> 0:31:56.840 explained it and he was like, yo, I'm not going 0:31:56.880 --> 0:31:59.840 to take responsibility, but I feel bad of what happened. 0:32:00.520 --> 0:32:01.320 Tell everybody back. 0:32:01.320 --> 0:32:04.000 I beloved for the crowd, and he dropped up beloved 0:32:04.320 --> 0:32:06.600 and the crowd lost their goddamn. 0:32:06.640 --> 0:32:09.640 I was standing right that or the stage. The crowd 0:32:10.000 --> 0:32:10.440 lost it. 0:32:10.840 --> 0:32:11.360 That's what I do. 0:32:11.480 --> 0:32:14.040 I gave it his last hit is a big hit. 0:32:14.160 --> 0:32:16.680 That was his biggest That was his last hit record 0:32:16.720 --> 0:32:17.600 before he passed away. 0:32:18.840 --> 0:32:22.880 Damn, I know you did that. Damn, that's crazy. Yep. 0:32:23.160 --> 0:32:26.880 The first time I saw you spend, you would come 0:32:27.200 --> 0:32:32.280 to the event with like at least eight crates, fifteen 0:32:32.920 --> 0:32:39.240 The level yep that I've never seen, the dizzying level 0:32:39.400 --> 0:32:41.440 of how you would organize records or whatever. 0:32:42.080 --> 0:32:42.600 That's why with. 0:32:42.720 --> 0:32:46.640 Jeff Jazzy, Jeff would try to convince me to be 0:32:46.760 --> 0:32:48.320 on Serato and. 0:32:48.400 --> 0:32:51.880 That was hard to make that transition. That's what I'm saying. 0:32:53.280 --> 0:32:56.320 I like the fact that I had fifteen crates and 0:32:56.440 --> 0:32:58.480 I would wanted to crate catch the record at the 0:32:58.560 --> 0:33:00.760 last second it dropped the needle way and it just 0:33:00.840 --> 0:33:03.320 looked crazy to the crowd. So I thought if I 0:33:03.440 --> 0:33:06.080 got rid of that and went to the computer, it 0:33:06.080 --> 0:33:09.680 wouldn't be that same excitement. And Jeff will always say, Okay, got. 0:33:09.680 --> 0:33:12.360 It, go on the computer. You got to do. You 0:33:12.400 --> 0:33:15.480 know what I'm saying, Savado shit, So you relate to 0:33:15.560 --> 0:33:16.320 the Serado game. 0:33:16.680 --> 0:33:18.800 Oh yeah, Okay, I ain't started Surroado game this whole 0:33:18.880 --> 0:33:21.920 six So Death Comedy Jam came back and Mike EPs 0:33:22.040 --> 0:33:25.120 was host and they asked me if I will produce 0:33:25.200 --> 0:33:27.600 the beats on Deaf Comedy Jam because they didn't want 0:33:27.600 --> 0:33:32.080 to clear the death Jam records, right, So I produced 0:33:32.120 --> 0:33:33.880 all the beats that how do I play? Put it 0:33:33.880 --> 0:33:37.640 in Soroader. I put the beats of Sovado and I 0:33:37.720 --> 0:33:39.720 did the show. Then I started putting the break piece 0:33:39.760 --> 0:33:41.920 of Soroader. Now I put the reggae records. Now I 0:33:42.000 --> 0:33:43.840 put the old for reggae. Next thing, you know, every 0:33:43.920 --> 0:33:45.880 day was a Soroado. Got read the records and now 0:33:45.920 --> 0:33:48.400 I was good. And then I see the crowds and 0:33:48.640 --> 0:33:51.520 in my show still reacting the same way when I 0:33:51.600 --> 0:33:52.760 had the records, So I was good. 0:33:53.200 --> 0:33:57.920 How irksome is it for you to watch any of 0:33:58.080 --> 0:34:04.640 the retro Deaf Comedy Jam shows? And like, for me, 0:34:04.920 --> 0:34:08.600 the best part of the show is when you start 0:34:08.760 --> 0:34:12.200 doing the ll breakdown thing. And you know, of course 0:34:12.800 --> 0:34:15.320 when it came on DVD and now that it's streaming 0:34:15.440 --> 0:34:18.880 and even on YouTube, you know, they put like interstitial 0:34:19.040 --> 0:34:21.640 music over it, like so you're trying to imagine what 0:34:21.719 --> 0:34:22.480 they're dancing to you. 0:34:22.600 --> 0:34:24.040 I can't stand it. I hate it. 0:34:24.719 --> 0:34:28.880 I hate it's it's it's the claims is it's the money. 0:34:29.120 --> 0:34:32.520 It's you know, it's a lot of money. You would 0:34:32.560 --> 0:34:35.359 think that they death jam records. It would be all 0:34:35.440 --> 0:34:36.919 right for deaf comedy jam to playing. 0:34:36.960 --> 0:34:37.799 But I thought that way. 0:34:37.840 --> 0:34:38.440 They don't go that way. 0:34:38.480 --> 0:34:40.160 It's whoever was a publisher. You know, you got to 0:34:40.200 --> 0:34:42.120 go through all that ship. And some people are just beaty. 0:34:42.360 --> 0:34:43.960 Some people want what they want and they don't see 0:34:43.960 --> 0:34:47.400 the bigger picture, so they eliminated I was making the 0:34:47.440 --> 0:34:48.880 beats and you got gut around it. 0:34:49.120 --> 0:34:49.279 Yeah. 0:34:49.320 --> 0:34:53.040 I was going to say, there's there's one comedian that I, 0:34:53.280 --> 0:34:57.040 if I recall correctly, like he made you part of 0:34:57.080 --> 0:34:57.479 the act. 0:34:58.360 --> 0:35:03.600 This brother named Talent. It's just come. That's kind of crazy. 0:35:04.239 --> 0:35:07.360 But Talent would do this thing where he would have 0:35:07.520 --> 0:35:10.360 a scenario and needed a soundtrack to it, and he 0:35:10.400 --> 0:35:12.960 would have you play the record and then he would 0:35:13.000 --> 0:35:14.800 do the scenario. All right, we wand we want to 0:35:14.880 --> 0:35:17.279 kick it all right now, this scenario is blah blah blah, 0:35:17.320 --> 0:35:20.560 and I can never find and it's one of the 0:35:20.680 --> 0:35:23.360 funniest things ever. And I wish I could find that original. 0:35:24.000 --> 0:35:28.120 But because of music clearance issues, you know, people don't. 0:35:28.000 --> 0:35:32.920 Get so much footage from us on the road me 0:35:33.000 --> 0:35:35.400 and Bernie. Bernie was like my uncle. Bernie mack was 0:35:35.440 --> 0:35:40.000 like my uncle like like like this, like so I 0:35:40.080 --> 0:35:43.439 got so much footage of me and him and Bill 0:35:43.520 --> 0:35:47.239 Bellamy and Chris Tucker and Eddie Griffith, all of us. 0:35:47.360 --> 0:35:50.960 Man just on the road and just different funny things. 0:35:51.040 --> 0:35:55.160 Man. This dude, Bernie mack Man was funny all day long. Man, 0:35:55.360 --> 0:35:58.719 just all who would be on the tour bus. He'll 0:35:58.800 --> 0:36:02.799 wake up and put us scotty cap on and he'll 0:36:02.880 --> 0:36:05.719 have you laughing, just laughing all the way into the 0:36:05.800 --> 0:36:07.640 time to do the show. Then he'll go and host 0:36:07.719 --> 0:36:10.440 the show, tear that down, get back on the tour. 0:36:10.719 --> 0:36:12.839 Was put the scotty cap on with the hind again 0:36:13.000 --> 0:36:13.920 and have him laugh. 0:36:13.840 --> 0:36:14.720 Until you fall asleep. 0:36:14.760 --> 0:36:16.640 And then he messes with the bus driver just where 0:36:16.680 --> 0:36:18.520 the bus driver got pulled over because. 0:36:18.239 --> 0:36:21.360 He laughed in his ass long. This dude was just all. 0:36:21.320 --> 0:36:23.200 Day you just look at him and just laugh. He 0:36:23.360 --> 0:36:26.600 just it was amazing in that way. It was, you know, 0:36:26.680 --> 0:36:28.040 he was one of them dudes. It was sad to 0:36:28.080 --> 0:36:31.399 see him go too, you know. But all them all 0:36:31.440 --> 0:36:35.000 those everybody got tour with everybody that was on that show, 0:36:35.000 --> 0:36:37.680 they all my extended family. Man, we all did something. 0:36:37.760 --> 0:36:40.040 We did something great together, you know what I'm saying, 0:36:40.200 --> 0:36:43.360 and it really touched people. Like every time we sold 0:36:43.400 --> 0:36:46.720 out somewhere, you just see the people just smiling and happy, 0:36:46.800 --> 0:36:48.960 and you know that was that was the most thing 0:36:49.040 --> 0:36:49.200 for me. 0:36:49.320 --> 0:36:50.879 How many, how much good times. 0:36:50.920 --> 0:36:52.719 It was never a threat where you had to worry 0:36:52.760 --> 0:36:55.200 about crime going on, to somebody getting hurt or shot 0:36:55.280 --> 0:36:56.239 of a fight breaking out. 0:36:56.440 --> 0:36:59.719 It was always fun, laughing and it was dope. 0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:00.359 Was dope. 0:37:01.200 --> 0:37:03.279 I was going to ask you about just the Master 0:37:03.320 --> 0:37:06.200 of the Mix. Man. It was a while back, but 0:37:06.680 --> 0:37:09.279 I really enjoyed that show, and uh, I want to 0:37:09.320 --> 0:37:11.200 just ask you about just kind of what that experience 0:37:11.360 --> 0:37:13.320 was like, getting acting, I guess as a as a 0:37:13.440 --> 0:37:16.800 judge and judging other DJs. Man, how was that experience? 0:37:17.360 --> 0:37:17.879 It was dope. 0:37:18.880 --> 0:37:20.680 I was always like the cyb of Cow. I was 0:37:20.800 --> 0:37:21.400 very serious. 0:37:21.719 --> 0:37:22.560 I was really. 0:37:24.200 --> 0:37:26.560 Straight because I had to worry about the reason why 0:37:26.600 --> 0:37:28.719 I was so serious was because they had to worry 0:37:28.719 --> 0:37:30.719 about our credentials. I had to worry about, you know, 0:37:32.080 --> 0:37:34.800 because they had to worry about I wanted to be truthful, 0:37:34.960 --> 0:37:37.120 you know, sound show, no favoritism. I didn't want to 0:37:37.120 --> 0:37:38.560 show like I didn't know what I was talking about 0:37:38.680 --> 0:37:40.279 or you know, any of that. I wanted to be 0:37:40.440 --> 0:37:43.160 what it was and it worked out. We was on 0:37:43.840 --> 0:37:46.200 for two seasons on BT and then we was on 0:37:46.360 --> 0:37:51.400 one season of VH one. My me, personally, I think 0:37:51.480 --> 0:37:54.360 they should have kept that show going. You know, I 0:37:54.480 --> 0:37:57.200 know what issues they had, but they should have kept 0:37:57.239 --> 0:38:00.040 that show going because what it did you have? It 0:38:00.160 --> 0:38:02.600 was like Mel Startings you see right now? Have Mel 0:38:02.680 --> 0:38:04.200 starting not been on that show, We don't know if 0:38:04.239 --> 0:38:05.959 we've seen him as quick as we did. But because 0:38:06.000 --> 0:38:08.759 he was on that show and he's super talented, so 0:38:09.280 --> 0:38:12.600 that show got a chance to to, you know, show 0:38:12.680 --> 0:38:14.320 the world who these dudes are. The same way in 0:38:14.360 --> 0:38:18.240 Death Comedy Jam. Remember before Death Comedy Jam was Richard Pryor, 0:38:18.960 --> 0:38:22.880 Red Fox Andeddie Murphy. You know, a couple of other 0:38:22.960 --> 0:38:25.920 dudes sprinkle here for comedy. You if you didn't, it 0:38:26.000 --> 0:38:28.319 wasn't them dudes, you you know. So when we got 0:38:28.400 --> 0:38:30.960 Deaf Comedy Jam, we displayed all this plethors of all 0:38:31.000 --> 0:38:33.400 these different people. Now it became bigger. And that's the 0:38:33.400 --> 0:38:35.799 same thing with Master the Mix. It was all these 0:38:35.880 --> 0:38:39.560 different DJs. Chris Carr and you know Jco. All these 0:38:39.640 --> 0:38:41.960 dudes do are readers. Now, you know what I'm saying 0:38:42.040 --> 0:38:44.719 because of that show. Being on that show, so it 0:38:44.840 --> 0:38:46.680 was definitely a dope show. They definitely should have capten 0:38:47.040 --> 0:38:49.959 some things I would have changed around. I'd have changed 0:38:50.000 --> 0:38:51.719 some things around. I ain't think that I didn't really 0:38:51.760 --> 0:38:52.120 agree with. 0:38:52.760 --> 0:38:54.480 Yeah, but you know, it is what it is. 0:38:54.560 --> 0:38:55.759 And then I was on another show. 0:38:55.920 --> 0:38:56.200 Did you know? 0:38:56.280 --> 0:38:57.560 I was on a Growing Up pip Hop? 0:38:58.840 --> 0:39:01.279 I missed that one now about doing it? 0:39:01.320 --> 0:39:04.560 And I did that because yeah, I only did one season, 0:39:04.680 --> 0:39:05.520 only did one season. 0:39:05.600 --> 0:39:06.000 I was out. 0:39:06.640 --> 0:39:11.160 I'm not speaking of which talk about u Ena. First 0:39:11.200 --> 0:39:14.240 of all, I'm surprised we got through this whole episode 0:39:14.280 --> 0:39:17.719 without any jokes of me taking your last name. 0:39:18.480 --> 0:39:20.759 Love is actually your last name, correct. 0:39:20.680 --> 0:39:22.280 The real last name is by the name of album 0:39:22.320 --> 0:39:23.080 is called The Love. 0:39:23.760 --> 0:39:24.879 Of Course Love. 0:39:25.440 --> 0:39:28.000 Yeah, Well, talk about what it's like like collaborating with 0:39:28.120 --> 0:39:32.480 your daughter and now that she has has, you know, 0:39:32.600 --> 0:39:36.880 planted her seeds and and is starting her story right now, 0:39:37.000 --> 0:39:37.840 Like what what is that? 0:39:38.080 --> 0:39:40.560 What is that like for you to see her? Karen 0:39:40.600 --> 0:39:41.560 on the legacy. 0:39:42.440 --> 0:39:46.520 At first, you know, I know the music business. I 0:39:46.640 --> 0:39:50.440 know what's in the music business. I know everything. And 0:39:52.600 --> 0:39:56.640 normally you don't want your kid in that. You know 0:39:56.680 --> 0:39:58.239 what I'm saying. You don't want them to go through 0:39:59.520 --> 0:40:03.080 certain d But the way she grew up, how was 0:40:03.280 --> 0:40:06.359 she showed me how she handled herself, how she do things. 0:40:07.480 --> 0:40:09.920 She has a skin for it. Now did she have 0:40:10.040 --> 0:40:11.640 the talent for it? Didn't know. 0:40:11.719 --> 0:40:13.640 And I wasn't gonna push her off on people just 0:40:13.680 --> 0:40:15.480 because she's my daughter. She had to prove to me 0:40:15.600 --> 0:40:18.239 that she really could do a thing. And she came 0:40:18.280 --> 0:40:19.960 to me with this record where she did mind his 0:40:20.000 --> 0:40:22.399 best to be over with her little boyfriend at the time, 0:40:22.840 --> 0:40:24.320 and the record was dope. But that she did a 0:40:24.400 --> 0:40:27.600 record that she wrote for Rihanna called Air that never 0:40:27.680 --> 0:40:30.640 got to Riana, and she end up recording to herself. 0:40:30.840 --> 0:40:33.160 And that's when the one I was like, Okay, she's ready, 0:40:33.360 --> 0:40:36.319 and from there on she'd been moving there. But how 0:40:36.440 --> 0:40:39.080 she carry herself, how she treats people, the smiles she 0:40:39.200 --> 0:40:41.200 keep on her face, how she talk, the way she 0:40:41.320 --> 0:40:42.000 look at stuff. 0:40:42.040 --> 0:40:45.759 She's just like me. She is she she respects what 0:40:45.920 --> 0:40:47.960 it is. And then she see how her father moved 0:40:48.000 --> 0:40:48.640 that's another day. 0:40:48.719 --> 0:40:52.040 She see how father moved how different people treat me, 0:40:52.680 --> 0:40:58.200 you know, and it makes it automatically molds your child 0:40:58.280 --> 0:41:00.239 when they see it when they around the experience said, 0:41:00.239 --> 0:41:02.040 they always home with it, now around to see things 0:41:02.080 --> 0:41:03.759 that they don't go with it. They go with but 0:41:03.840 --> 0:41:06.800 when they get a chance to really see everything, it 0:41:07.000 --> 0:41:08.960 kind of mows them. And that's what happens. She really 0:41:09.000 --> 0:41:11.399 know what she's doing, and she's talented. She really works hard. 0:41:11.640 --> 0:41:14.080 It's more of the talent. She really really works hard, 0:41:14.520 --> 0:41:17.400 you know. And I just wanted her to really just 0:41:17.520 --> 0:41:19.800 be happy and and all she's happy. 0:41:20.040 --> 0:41:20.680 That's it, you know. 0:41:22.000 --> 0:41:24.200 This music business, like I said, you let it get 0:41:24.200 --> 0:41:27.560 to you, it will, you know. And sometimes things don't 0:41:27.600 --> 0:41:29.080 work out the way you want when you wanted to 0:41:29.160 --> 0:41:32.920 work out, you know. And that's a part of growing, 0:41:33.000 --> 0:41:35.720 that's a part of that's the part of appreciating the journey, 0:41:35.960 --> 0:41:36.120 you know. 0:41:37.040 --> 0:41:39.080 Matt. I always wanted to ask you one of my 0:41:39.239 --> 0:41:43.239 favorite intros of all time to an album is off 0:41:43.280 --> 0:41:47.200 Sex and Violence BDP. Do you remember like where y'all 0:41:47.320 --> 0:41:49.399 was y'all recorded that when you recorded. 0:41:50.560 --> 0:41:55.480 Man whoops, right? I always thought y'all did that on 0:41:55.600 --> 0:41:58.040 purpose to make it like that's how parties are like, 0:41:58.520 --> 0:42:00.120 what was it to. 0:42:00.719 --> 0:42:01.480 Get another album? 0:42:01.880 --> 0:42:04.520 It's very the very first joint with him and Freddy Fox. 0:42:04.920 --> 0:42:06.080 Uh nice, this movie got. 0:42:09.840 --> 0:42:09.960 Right. 0:42:10.560 --> 0:42:12.719 I was on it. I wasn't on that. Nah, you're 0:42:12.760 --> 0:42:13.000 on that. 0:42:13.400 --> 0:42:15.879 At the end, ladies and gentlemen. 0:42:15.640 --> 0:42:18.280 Give it off with my motherfucking man whoops. 0:42:18.200 --> 0:42:21.160 And the records the record stops. It's like, oh, y'all 0:42:21.160 --> 0:42:23.000 know where they come from, blowing up on the parties 0:42:23.000 --> 0:42:23.279 and all that. 0:42:23.400 --> 0:42:31.239 Right, My people go back to it goes du down, 0:42:32.280 --> 0:42:36.640 go back and check that. No, that's I love that ship. Yeah, 0:42:37.360 --> 0:42:40.399 you know, so like for you, and I know it's 0:42:40.400 --> 0:42:42.400 a cliche to ask, but like. 0:42:43.920 --> 0:42:46.520 You know, being as though this is hip hop's fiftieth 0:42:46.640 --> 0:42:49.600 year and Jeff always jokes with me that no one's 0:42:49.640 --> 0:42:51.360 going to celebrate the fifty first, so we got to 0:42:51.400 --> 0:42:52.120 celebrate it now. 0:42:52.719 --> 0:42:57.520 Yeah, for you, you know, is there anything that. 0:42:59.200 --> 0:43:02.760 You you've yet to check off in in your bucket 0:43:02.840 --> 0:43:06.600 list that you haven't achieved yet? Like, you know, what 0:43:06.680 --> 0:43:10.480 were you like to see the culture go or for 0:43:10.600 --> 0:43:12.600 you to do or or do you just you know 0:43:12.719 --> 0:43:15.000 want to stop and chill and you know. 0:43:15.160 --> 0:43:18.520 But I'll tell you this, Well, the one thing I 0:43:18.640 --> 0:43:21.040 haven't got a chance to do as many things as 0:43:21.080 --> 0:43:24.520 I did, was sell a platinum album or sell a 0:43:24.600 --> 0:43:27.640 gold album. You know, I only had three albums in 0:43:27.680 --> 0:43:30.239 my career. Making records never been my bread and butter. 0:43:30.440 --> 0:43:31.800 I do it because I want to do it, you 0:43:31.840 --> 0:43:36.239 know what I'm saying. But I the Love album, it 0:43:36.360 --> 0:43:38.400 has so many layers to it. My mother's on the 0:43:38.440 --> 0:43:40.800 funck covered with the big as for my daughter's on 0:43:40.880 --> 0:43:43.600 the record. I produced every day, wrote everything. I didn't 0:43:43.640 --> 0:43:45.640 runner any artists it's hot, say you'll come get on 0:43:45.719 --> 0:43:47.360 my ship to sell it or none of that. I 0:43:47.440 --> 0:43:50.200 did everything myself. There's so many layers to it. And 0:43:50.280 --> 0:43:52.440 I didn't put it out for it to go platinum gold. 0:43:52.480 --> 0:43:53.919 I'll put it out to put something in the world, 0:43:54.160 --> 0:43:56.200 but I would like to see it really do good. 0:43:56.239 --> 0:43:59.240 I would like to see the world hit this album 0:43:59.320 --> 0:44:02.400 and really, I'm saying, and just absorb it because I 0:44:02.560 --> 0:44:04.839 haven't got a bad complain one time since I put 0:44:04.880 --> 0:44:06.919 it out. You know, the Internet, they're gonna say whatever 0:44:06.960 --> 0:44:09.839 they want. I haven't got one of those yet, not one, 0:44:10.000 --> 0:44:12.319 you know what I'm saying. So with that being said, 0:44:12.400 --> 0:44:15.240 the frustraight part for me is that I know everybody 0:44:15.320 --> 0:44:17.640 hasn't heard it. I know everybody don't know what's dead. 0:44:17.920 --> 0:44:19.920 There's people that come to me right now. I remember 0:44:19.920 --> 0:44:22.520 when you had your two albums out, you didn't hear 0:44:22.560 --> 0:44:24.120 the third one, like you know. 0:44:24.360 --> 0:44:26.200 That's how I know. It's like, you know, that's the 0:44:26.239 --> 0:44:29.440 frustrate part. But only I follow you on I G 0:44:29.760 --> 0:44:30.719 and during the pandemic. 0:44:31.160 --> 0:44:33.120 You know, you didn't even know it was in the room, 0:44:33.160 --> 0:44:35.680 watching in the studio making your beats and as you 0:44:35.760 --> 0:44:39.319 were making the record and whatnot. So you know, it's 0:44:39.560 --> 0:44:42.520 finally good to see the fruition of it. Your mom 0:44:42.600 --> 0:44:45.799 actually has a hugemongous afro yo like, yes up. 0:44:47.120 --> 0:44:50.960 She was definitely definitely big on her. 0:44:50.680 --> 0:44:52.640 And her last name is Love. I might be a 0:44:52.719 --> 0:44:58.600 long lost cousin. I don't know, it might be exactly brother, 0:44:58.800 --> 0:44:59.359 Thank you man. 0:44:59.760 --> 0:45:01.920 You know, I got to see very briefly at the 0:45:03.320 --> 0:45:07.640 at LL's Rock the Bells Festival, which was really like 0:45:08.320 --> 0:45:11.680 a kind of amazing family reunion. Like to be backstage 0:45:11.719 --> 0:45:17.319 and literally there's an era of hip hop that I've 0:45:17.440 --> 0:45:19.920 yet to meet, So, you know, to be backstage and 0:45:20.880 --> 0:45:25.400 you're seeing like the Fearless four and and the Fantastic 0:45:25.560 --> 0:45:27.759 Romantic five and the Cold Crush Brothers, and. 0:45:29.160 --> 0:45:31.920 Yeah, we're about the experience because I was about to 0:45:31.920 --> 0:45:34.839 the Yankee Stadium for the second time, or the level 0:45:34.880 --> 0:45:35.680 of the hip hop. 0:45:35.600 --> 0:45:37.400 Day the Yankee Stadium. 0:45:37.680 --> 0:45:39.480 Who's on that show me. 0:45:39.800 --> 0:45:46.160 Snoop Nas Whiskedly for one, DMC, Fat Joe, Ace Boogie, 0:45:47.800 --> 0:45:49.000 a whole bunch of other people. 0:45:49.280 --> 0:45:51.160 So hip hop's is coming to the Bronx. 0:45:51.560 --> 0:45:53.960 Coming to the hometown, coming to the hometown and smash 0:45:54.040 --> 0:45:54.319 it down. 0:45:54.360 --> 0:45:56.040 The first time I did Yankee standion was when I 0:45:56.080 --> 0:45:57.680 did it for Nelson Mandela when he came out of 0:45:57.760 --> 0:46:01.040 jail right a celeb for me, Yank saying me and 0:46:01.120 --> 0:46:03.040 car West went and did it, and that was that 0:46:03.120 --> 0:46:05.640 was a milestone. So we're back again and I'm gonna 0:46:05.640 --> 0:46:08.080 come in just do my thing. I'mna pull off something 0:46:08.120 --> 0:46:10.480 special too. When I pull out this thing that would 0:46:10.480 --> 0:46:14.919 pull out, it's going to shake the room. So I'm hoping, yeah, 0:46:16.760 --> 0:46:19.160 but it's gonna be dope. Thank you, stading home man, 0:46:19.640 --> 0:46:20.080 can't wait. 0:46:21.080 --> 0:46:25.640 Ladies and gentlemen, kick Capri on quest left Supreme. Thank 0:46:25.680 --> 0:46:26.720 you man for everything. 0:46:26.920 --> 0:46:30.000 Thank you Thank you man. Straight you know you you 0:46:30.440 --> 0:46:31.000 your your. 0:46:30.880 --> 0:46:34.000 Tapes have entertainment. I've seen you many times like rock shows. 0:46:34.080 --> 0:46:37.520 I took notes and you know you've been nothing but 0:46:37.719 --> 0:46:40.600 but genuine and really really kind of and and dope 0:46:40.640 --> 0:46:43.759 to me. Any nerdy questions I had over the years, 0:46:43.800 --> 0:46:46.800 You've answered them. And I thank you for that, and 0:46:46.880 --> 0:46:48.080 thank you for doing our show man. 0:46:48.680 --> 0:46:49.440 Thank you for having me. 0:46:49.560 --> 0:46:49.759 Man. 0:46:50.080 --> 0:46:51.120 I got a chance to see you. 0:46:51.400 --> 0:46:51.480 Uh. 0:46:51.680 --> 0:46:54.480 This was in Toronto some years back. We were opening. 0:46:54.560 --> 0:46:56.839 Me and Knife were opening for you and rock Kim. 0:46:56.960 --> 0:46:59.360 You were spending for rock Yim in Toronto and that 0:46:59.440 --> 0:47:03.160 was one of the best. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we opened up. 0:47:03.200 --> 0:47:04.680 It was It wasn't a little brother, It was just me. 0:47:05.000 --> 0:47:06.400 I was doing my solo record at the time, and 0:47:06.480 --> 0:47:09.160 Night for spending for me and so and but we 0:47:09.320 --> 0:47:13.920 opened up for rock him and Kid and masterclass Man. 0:47:14.080 --> 0:47:16.279 It was just I was just sitting backstage taking notes. 0:47:16.360 --> 0:47:18.200 So thank you for everything, brother, for. 0:47:18.440 --> 0:47:19.719 I appreciate that. Little brother. 0:47:19.760 --> 0:47:22.000 You gotta come out another joint, need another joint. 0:47:22.440 --> 0:47:24.840 Oh No, we're working. We're working, brother, We're. 0:47:24.680 --> 0:47:30.160 Working well on behalf of Sugar Steven. It was the 0:47:30.280 --> 0:47:32.560 quietest episode of Quest Love Supreme ever. 0:47:32.760 --> 0:47:33.479 I wonder why. 0:47:36.840 --> 0:47:44.280 I'm just enjoying the Quiet, man enjoying the quiet. Yeah kay, Capri, 0:47:44.440 --> 0:47:47.239 thank you for repping New York so well all these years. 0:47:47.280 --> 0:47:49.840 And New Jersey, Hey man, it's the box. 0:47:55.040 --> 0:47:58.080 Yeah so be Ava and Sugar Steven paid Bill And 0:47:58.960 --> 0:48:02.520 this is Quest Love and the great legendary kick a 0:48:02.600 --> 0:48:04.000 Pree of course, Love Supreme. 0:48:05.120 --> 0:48:05.719 Shout out to. 0:48:06.840 --> 0:48:10.760 Brittany and Jake holding us down and our good friends 0:48:10.840 --> 0:48:11.759 at iHeartRadio. 0:48:12.040 --> 0:48:14.040 And we'll see you on the next go round, all right, 0:48:14.320 --> 0:48:30.840 Peace West. Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. 0:48:34.960 --> 0:48:38.200 For more podcasts from iHeart Radio, visit the iHeart Radio app, 0:48:38.440 --> 0:48:41.480 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.