1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: The Best Bits of the Week with Morgan. Part one. 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: I hang a scene with a member of the show. 3 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: Happy Sunday, everybody, we are hanging out here on Best 4 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 1: Bits and Eddie is joining me. 5 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 2: What's up, Eddie? 6 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 1: So Morgan, you came back a little bit quicker this time. 7 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah I did. 8 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 1: I did, just to give the. 9 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 2: People some inside baseball to it. 10 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: Eddie is like, with all the cruise and stuff happening, 11 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get some stuff recorded early. I'm trying 12 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: to record some stuff on the cruise for Best Bits 13 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: so it can all be intertwined, and so I'm just 14 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: kind of moving everything around. 15 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 3: Are you excited for the cruise. 16 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 2: I'm really excited to be in somewhere warm. 17 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. You know, I'm at the point where I'm dreaming 18 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 3: of being in the middle of the ocean. Yeah, like, 19 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 3: because I've never been in the middle. I've gone deep 20 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 3: sea fishing where it's probably five, six, maybe ten miles 21 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 3: off shore. Yeah, but not like where you're. 22 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: Just gone, oh you can't see any I mean, yeah, yeah, 23 00:00:59,120 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: you do. 24 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 3: You do. You do that like when you go deep 25 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 3: sea fishing, but it's only like I think, after you 26 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 3: pass like two miles you don't see anything. 27 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: Well, it's also a lot different when it's dark out too. 28 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: It's the coolest thing to be on the top of 29 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: a ship and. 30 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 3: Look, yeah, okay, tell me all about it. 31 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,559 Speaker 1: And you look out. You're on like the top deck, 32 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:15,559 Speaker 1: and you just look out and it's just dark. 33 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 3: Is it peaceful out there? 34 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 2: It's so peaceful. 35 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: I mean there's obviously stuff happening on the cruise to 36 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 1: like you hear noises and things happening. There's gloves, and 37 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,199 Speaker 1: there's people, and there's things happening. But if you could 38 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 1: go on the top deck, typically it's pretty quiet and tame. 39 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 3: In the evenings, are people making out of there? That's 40 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 3: what I picture. That's I picture like a bunch of Jackson. 41 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 3: Uh what's her name from Titanic Jack, Kate Jacket. Yeah 42 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 3: it's not Kate, I think whatever. Yeah, Kate Winslet, Kate 43 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:45,119 Speaker 3: winslet Leo and Kate. 44 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, hold on, I love. That's going to bother me, Jack, 45 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: And I want to say Diane because you're saying Jack 46 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: Bart Diane, hold on, Hold don't tell me, don't. 47 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 3: Tell me, Jack. 48 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: I remembered it before I even saw it. 49 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 3: Okay, what is it? 50 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: Rose? 51 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 3: Jack and Rose. That's when I picture a bunch of 52 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 3: Jack and Rose is up. They're just making out kind of. 53 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: But you can't really have a Titanic moment because that 54 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: where that part of the ship is is typically secured. 55 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 3: You're talking about that, I'm the King of the world. 56 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 3: You can't do that. 57 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,959 Speaker 1: Some of them you can get close, but most of 58 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: the time that particular area is blocked. 59 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 2: Off because it's unsafe. Yeah, so you can't exactly do that. 60 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 3: Do you see any other ships out there, like any 61 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 3: other boats. 62 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 1: We have before, like yachts or private yachts, stuff. 63 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 3: Like that, And that's what I'm talking about. 64 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: It just depends on where you're at and how close 65 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:35,519 Speaker 1: you are to things and all the cool pirates pirates 66 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: and pirates show up at all. 67 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 2: I've never seen any pirates. 68 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 3: People were telling me that pirates do exist, and I 69 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 3: know that they do exist, but do they exist in 70 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 3: the Caribbean as like like kind of like Jack Sparrow 71 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 3: like Pirates of the Caribbean. 72 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if they're quite what you're picturing from 73 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: the movies pirates. 74 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 3: No, but I'm picturing Captain Phillips. Those are pirates. 75 00:02:57,680 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 2: Who's Captain Phillips. 76 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 3: What are you talking about, Captain Philip. I'm the captain. 77 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 1: Now from what movie? Captain Phillips. I've never seen that. 78 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 3: Is that the name of the movie. I think it's 79 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,399 Speaker 3: the name of the movie Tom Hanks, Tom Hanks, He's 80 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 3: a he's a cargo ship captain. 81 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 2: It is the name of the movie Captain Phillips. 82 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 3: And the Pirates Overtake the Ship. 83 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: Okay, true story there. Well I will say like I 84 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: had a girl come on my podcast and she was 85 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: actually taken hostage by pirates shut up in Somali. 86 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 2: Though that that's a lot for the away. 87 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: I think that's Captain Phillips, Okay, something like that. I 88 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: know they exist, they are very real, but I just 89 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: don't know that they're quite like Jack Sparrow Well, Pirates 90 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: of the Caribbean. 91 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 3: Morgan, I wasn't picturing a freaking pirate with a patch 92 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 3: and a parrot. 93 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: Like well, I don't know what your images, but but 94 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: the Pirates. 95 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 3: Of the Caribbean, like that was really the Caribbean was 96 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 3: the mecca for pirates, you know, like they lived on 97 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 3: this port called Port Royal, which was like a pirate 98 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 3: port now underwater like sunk or whatever. But that was 99 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 3: like their hub where they all live and partied and 100 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 3: got drunk and had prostitutes, and then they would go 101 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 3: from there to like go steal from Spanish ships. 102 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: Okay, so to your point, yes, piracy exists in the Caribbean, 103 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: though modern piracy differs from the historical like Golden Age. 104 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: It mostly involves armed robbery against yachts and commercial vessels, 105 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 1: with incidents reported near Saint Vincent, Granada and in the 106 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: waters around Jamaica and Antiqua. 107 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 2: Wow, so I don't know. 108 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: That there will be where we're going. Yeah, particularly they're 109 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 1: probably a little bit more commercialized, so that might stop 110 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: some of that from happening and more security. But Eddie, 111 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: I remember you want to know what's something funny When 112 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 1: we used to go on cruises younger. I have pictures 113 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 1: where I'd get off ship and I'd be in my 114 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: swimsuit because We're like going to the beach on the 115 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: on the place, and I'm posed with men with guns 116 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: like army men work. 117 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 3: Work like they're part of the government on the island. 118 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: Yeap doing security, protecting like everywhere we went. 119 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 3: Well, I love that they're like, yeah, come on picture times. 120 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: Well, imagine this girl from Kansas right going to this 121 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 1: island in Jamaica, and I'm like, what, there's armed soldiers. 122 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 1: What are they doing here? That that was so foreign 123 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 1: of a concept to me. Sure, so like seeing them 124 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 1: excited me, and I thought it was cool to like 125 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: get a picture with it. 126 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 3: And they were cool with it. They're like, yeah, no problem. 127 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they just so they all have to google. 128 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: When you start talking about a story, I'll Google to 129 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: show you a picture. But it's it's wild, really, the 130 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: security and stuff that I And that was gosh, fifteen 131 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: years ago now, so I can't even imagine what this, 132 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: like the security levels look like on them now. 133 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 3: So tell me more about your friend and the pirates, Like, 134 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 3: so what happened there? Like was she on a boat? 135 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 3: Was she on a ship? 136 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 4: No? 137 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 1: So she was actually like a teacher over in Africa 138 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: and she was not missionary work, but she was just 139 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: basically teaching English to people and became got a certain 140 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 1: job role with kind of attached to the government there 141 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: but not and then she was on this mission to 142 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: go teach people in this rural part of Africa and 143 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 1: ended up being kidnapped in the like caravan as she 144 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: was leaving it. So she went and did it. Everything 145 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: was fine. They were on their way out and they 146 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 1: were literally leaving Whoa, and they got kidnapped by pirates 147 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: and she was held hostage for she was inland. 148 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 3: She was on lands on lands and then so the 149 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 3: pirates took her on a boat yep. 150 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 1: And they held her for ransom. Her and another one 151 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: of her colleagues. Oh my gosh, and they were like kept. 152 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: I want to say it was ninety three days. No, 153 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 1: she's older. I want to say she's in her like 154 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: late thirties early forties now, And at the time this 155 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: was gosh, I'm trying to recall the thing because we 156 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 1: did like a really extensive interview on her. 157 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 2: Crazy but she did. 158 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,559 Speaker 1: It's like been like fifteen years now, I want to say. 159 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: But what was really wild about it too, is the 160 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: same is she was rescued by the same people who 161 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: found Osama bin Laden that same undercover like militant like. 162 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 3: Seal nine or whatever. Yeah, Steal Team six, Seal Team six, Yes, 163 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 3: so close. 164 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: And I couldn't. 165 00:06:58,800 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 2: I'm telling you. 166 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: She shared so much in that interview, so like she 167 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 1: was held hostage. Of things that happened while she was 168 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: held hostage and like being held for ransom. They wanted 169 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: money from who from anybody, whether. 170 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 3: It was her her like was it the organization. 171 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: Like either it could be the organization of the family 172 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: or well it was an insane amount of money. It 173 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: was in the millions, right, so they were just whoever 174 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: was willing to pay. 175 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 2: It for their lives. 176 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: Yes, and then that's when Seale Team six came in 177 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: and rescued her and her colleague and insane gunfire like 178 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: all kinds of things. The story is. 179 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 3: Wild, and you knew her personally. 180 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: I found her on Instagram and I asked her to 181 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: come to an interview. No way, Yeah, her story is 182 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: super emotional and her just wild that that exists out 183 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: in the world. 184 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 3: Yeah right, I know, And we fantasized the whole pirate 185 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 3: thing or any kind of like name like that, because yeah, 186 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 3: like Hollywood stories or whatever books. But yeah, I mean 187 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,040 Speaker 3: that's that's some real stuff. I mean even back in 188 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 3: the day, like when pirates Blackbeard, those they were scary. 189 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 3: There was nothing funny or fun about, like, you know, 190 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 3: a pirate story. 191 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: But if you think about it too, and I've always 192 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: long had this conspiracy theory, like genuinely movies, entertainment. 193 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 2: All of that is one of two things. 194 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: It's either meant to like desensitize us to something that's 195 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: already happening and just trying to make us see it 196 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: as entertainment, or it's like telling us the story in 197 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: a way that we can comprehend it because it did happen. 198 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean. 199 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: Like, I very much feel like those are true life, 200 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: just in different variations, and so, like you think about 201 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: pirates or whatever, so they exist, but we paint them 202 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: in this way, so we have a different experience with them, 203 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. 204 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 2: And I've always consumed movies and stuff with that like. 205 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: Conspiracy in my head and so everything I watch them 206 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: like you're real on some form. 207 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 2: I just haven't figured it out yet. 208 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 1: Well. 209 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 3: I also feel like like whenever you look at a 210 00:08:56,600 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 3: group like drug dealers or like pirates whatever that does 211 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 3: bad things. If you go inside a group like that, 212 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 3: there's still people mm hmm, like the bad things as 213 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 3: they do. Aside, there's still people. Some are funny, some 214 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 3: are loving, some are a little kind of like they're 215 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 3: I kind of like this person even though they're a 216 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 3: bad person in what they do, which is almost like 217 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 3: Captain Jack Sparrow, like ye, you know that character is 218 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 3: like he's kind of funny, he's always drunk, he makes 219 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 3: people laugh or whatever. He's weird, but he's also a mean, 220 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 3: bad pirate. Like but so I kind of like that 221 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 3: about Hollywood stories where they take like people that normally 222 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 3: you just be like, oh my gosh, that's just bad, 223 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 3: but you take that human element, like I think Narcos 224 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 3: did that really well, where like, you know, it was 225 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 3: all about Pablo Escobar and his like Colombian cartel, bad bad, 226 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 3: bad people, but inside that people, they still had personalities 227 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,319 Speaker 3: and you still had characters are just like kind of 228 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 3: likable guy, Like, well. 229 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 2: You're humanizing them. 230 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 1: So it's you realize that there's more to that story 231 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 1: than just the bad that you know about, because that 232 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: took something for them to get there exactly, and that's 233 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: very much what you're experiencing through those Yeah, I mean 234 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: you mentioned that, And when I was talking to Jessica 235 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: for like that entire story, at one point when she 236 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: was in the caravan when they had gotten taken over, 237 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: she like heard a voice behind her. 238 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 2: She thought it was a woman. 239 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: She was confused, looked around it was a really young 240 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 1: kid and she was a teacher, so she had this 241 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: like insane just like, holy crap, that's a kid that 242 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: I would teach, but he's here and he's holding a 243 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: gun to my head. Yeah, you know. And it was 244 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 1: like she had that like humanizing moment that you speak 245 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: of while also being terrified because she had no idea 246 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: what was happening. 247 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 3: You know, you say that about kids. I saw a 248 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 3: video on TikTok recently of like this, like I don't know, 249 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 3: like these three guys and it was like mask gunman, 250 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 3: you know, attack a party. You go into a party 251 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 3: and they like, you know, steal all this stuff. And 252 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 3: they showed the video of it, and I could tell 253 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 3: you immediately those guys those are kids, Like like they 254 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 3: dressed like my son, Like the way they walk like 255 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 3: that is a sixteen year old, Yeah, seventeen year old. 256 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 3: I know one hundred percent that that is a kid. 257 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 3: And like that's crazy, Like it's just well, one, it's sad, right, 258 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 3: it's sad that like kids are doing that. But you 259 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 3: think automatically like ooh, mass gunmen, like that's that's a man, 260 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 3: Like that is a has to be right, this our 261 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:21,199 Speaker 3: own man doing something bad. Yes, but now you look 262 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 3: at that and like, no, I'm telling you that is 263 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 3: a fifteen, sixteen year old. 264 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's scary. 265 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: I mean you think about all the things too, of 266 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: just and we associate social media and kids are doing. 267 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 2: Things earlier these days. 268 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 1: You can probably attest to this as a parent right 269 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,559 Speaker 1: where we see kids that at least the trend is 270 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: is that kids are doing things earlier than we did them. 271 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: Things are just happening in their life earlier. But I 272 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: think that goes for more than just social media. I 273 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: think it's all of it. I think they're just exposed 274 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: to so much that once you know, you think of 275 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 1: each generation and it evolves each generation, so naturally, not 276 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,719 Speaker 1: just adults are evolving each generation, the kids are and 277 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: so getting exposed to more and more and more as 278 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:04,199 Speaker 1: the generations continue. 279 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 3: And Amy's touched on this a little bit on the show, like, 280 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 3: and I'm so with her one hundred percent. I wish 281 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 3: all parents were on board, like we're all I wish 282 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 3: we were all part of some like board meeting every 283 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 3: single parent out there and be like all right, guys, uh, 284 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 3: at what age do we want to introduce them to? 285 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,959 Speaker 3: You know, movies with sex in it? At what age 286 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 3: do we want to introduce them to podcasts where they 287 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 3: just say every bad word? At what age do we 288 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 3: all that so we can all be on the same page, 289 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 3: because like say, I want to raise my kid too. 290 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 3: We're like, they're not going to watch movies with sex 291 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 3: in it, like until they're eighteen years old whatever. Right, 292 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 3: But then they go to Jimmy's house and his parents 293 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 3: are like, it's just sex, Like, hey, we all knew it, 294 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 3: Like you can watch a sex movie like whenever you want, 295 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 3: like you're thirteen, watch it now. My son is like whoa, 296 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 3: Like what is this? He comes to my house and 297 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 3: he starts showing his brothers, like dude, watch this. Then 298 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 3: we've as parents have lost all control, Like I've tried 299 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 3: so hard to just kind of And it's not like 300 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,719 Speaker 3: I want to shelter my kid from and I'm just 301 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 3: using sex videos for like example, right, fine, murder videos whatever, 302 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 3: a movie about murders. It's not that I want to 303 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 3: shelter them from it. But I know my children, and 304 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 3: I know when they are mature enough to take consume 305 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:27,959 Speaker 3: something like that. If you show a twelve year old 306 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 3: or eleven year old that it is the way they 307 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 3: react to and the way their mind processes something like 308 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 3: that is so different than an eighteen nineteen year old. 309 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:38,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, very well. 310 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 2: And this also goes like to touch on that point. 311 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,839 Speaker 1: It goes back to this is why in villages, right, 312 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: this is what we evolved from, was people being in villages. 313 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: And in villages, everybody took care of each other, Everybody 314 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 1: looked out for each other, everybody was on the same way. Yes, 315 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: because they were in the small village. They didn't have 316 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: to go outside of their village. They didn't know what existed. 317 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: And I think you're seeing a lot of people crave 318 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: that again, to have a village, to have a community, 319 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: even if it's just a community that you're in right 320 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 1: your neighborhood, that you're all on the same team and 321 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,839 Speaker 1: you're working together and you're helping each other and some 322 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 1: people can watch kids, and you know, you just have 323 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: this balance of an ecosystem and we're missing a lot 324 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: of that. But it's it's funny because it's the price 325 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: we pay for evolution, right. We wouldn't trade the advancements 326 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: we've had, but we want to go back to then 327 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: It's just it's a weird time that we're in. 328 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 3: It's just discipline, right, Like It's it's like, is it 329 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 3: easier to see what your cousin is doing by jumping 330 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 3: on Facebook or jumping on Instagram. Yes, it's way easier 331 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 3: to just be like, oh cool, she's in Tahoe right now, 332 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 3: like awesome. Like, but we're missing that whole human element 333 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 3: of like talking to them or just communicating about anything, 334 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 3: like not just looking at the picture and being like, oh, 335 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 3: that's cool, like they're at the beach this this weekend, 336 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 3: instead of just like, hey, how's the beach going. Oh 337 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 3: my gosh, it's terrible. There were so many sharks or whatever, 338 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 3: whatever the stories are, you're not going to get that 339 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 3: from the picture. And so we're losing that whole element. 340 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 3: And when you talk, this is getting deep. 341 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: I love it, Morgan, but well, okay, wait, I want 342 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: to hear the z bart but I'm gonna take a 343 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: quick break so we can just continue it. 344 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 2: Wrong, okay, okay, Eddie take us in the deven. 345 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 3: I just it reminded me of a time when when 346 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 3: my son had a friend over and his dad. I 347 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 3: didn't know him that well, but he came over and 348 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 3: they hung out and apparently when they left, the son, 349 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 3: his son told him like, man, I said damn, and 350 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 3: the way they reacted where it was like whoa, you 351 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 3: said a bad word, and so the dad was like, oh, dang, okay, 352 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 3: that's that's that's interesting. So he called me and said, hey, man, 353 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 3: just a heads up. And we knew each other like minimally, 354 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 3: like maybe we've hung out two or three times, and 355 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 3: he's like, man, I feel so bad, but to us, 356 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 3: damn isn't just it's not really about word. And so 357 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 3: my son says it all the time. And he told 358 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 3: me that he said it at your house and that 359 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 3: your boys were kind of reacted weirdly to it. So 360 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 3: first I want to apologize if, like I brought that 361 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 3: word into your house and they didn't. I'm like, no, dude, 362 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 3: I mean I say it all the time, Like I 363 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 3: don't think I think they were shocked maybe that your 364 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 3: son said it and they're his, you know, they're the 365 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 3: same age. And he said, okay, good, I just want 366 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 3: to make sure we're on the same page. That is 367 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 3: what I'm talking about with like, and there's so much 368 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 3: comfort with like when they go to his house, all right, 369 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 3: he teaches his kids the same thing. They kind of 370 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 3: run the same ship the way we do. And there's 371 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 3: so much trust there where I'm like, I'm not worried 372 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 3: about them going to their house. Yeah, but there are 373 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 3: other parents that I don't know them, you know, or 374 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 3: parents that have a bunch of older kids, but they 375 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 3: have a younger kid, and like, and then our kids 376 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 3: are younger and they're going over. I don't want that because, like, 377 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 3: then they have the older siblings around. Who knows what 378 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 3: the older siblings are talking about? 379 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, And honestly, it probably correlates to we're so polarized 380 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 1: right now. Everybody's on so many different spectrums. Again, you 381 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: go back to the village, and everybody was on the 382 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: same spectrum, right, everybody was feeling and experiencing things the same. 383 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 1: But now because we are exposed to so much, there's 384 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: so much variety of what we feel, what we think, 385 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: how we raise a family, how we interact with the world. 386 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 3: What's normal. 387 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, And so you just don't have that same thing 388 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: happening anymore. Where there is this blind trust. Like when 389 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 1: I was a kid and I was running all around 390 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 1: the neighborhood, my parents didn't care. And that's because there 391 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: was still a level of shared values and beliefs, right 392 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: your neighbors, yeah, you knew them. But it was also 393 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 1: like everybody looked out for the kids. Yeah, that was 394 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: just a common thing. 395 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 2: Everybody looked out for the kids. 396 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 1: Everybody. You know, parents all were on the same side 397 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,479 Speaker 1: with each other. They're a quick phone call away. Everybody 398 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: had each other's backs. You send a kid out in 399 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,719 Speaker 1: a neighborhood now, and that's not the same environment. You 400 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: don't know how somebody's going to respond to a kid 401 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 1: being on your lawn that is in their lawn, or 402 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: like interacting with this kid that isn't normally there. That's 403 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: just not what's happening anymore. Like we've strayed so far 404 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 1: from it, which makes that difficult then for a parent 405 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: to say, Okay, well, I want you to be out 406 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: in the world, but the world looks a lot differently 407 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: totally than what I'm used to. 408 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 3: And I love that you're saying that because you're not old. 409 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 3: And anytime an older person says that, they're like, ah, 410 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 3: you're just old. You know, it's not the way it 411 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 3: used to be, that kind of stuff, But you're right, 412 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 3: I even see it with Okay, so I feel like 413 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 3: there is a certain amount of social time that we 414 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 3: need time to just right, just to be social with 415 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 3: people talk us. We come to work every day, we 416 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 3: get our social time here talking, and even more than 417 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 3: we need that when we get home, we don't want 418 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 3: to We're spent right, Like my wife would be like, 419 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,919 Speaker 3: how is working? Like it was fun even though it 420 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 3: was awesome or we had a really great time or 421 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 3: good conversations. I'm kind of just I'm talking out and 422 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 3: I feel like the threshold that people have with either 423 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 3: social media or you know, maybe just movies or TV. 424 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 3: What are TV shows? That's they're getting their fill, They're 425 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 3: getting their fel of like and especially social media definitely, 426 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 3: like I got my feel of like conversations. I commented 427 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 3: on twelve posts and like somebody commented back, like I 428 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 3: know what people are pissed off at, I know what 429 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 3: people are happy at. I saw a couple of funny things. 430 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 3: I'm good. I don't need to know my neighbors. I 431 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,239 Speaker 3: don't need to talk at anyone, talk to anyone at 432 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 3: the grocery store. Yeah, I'm just gonna go and like 433 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:37,199 Speaker 3: get we'll kick it out. 434 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:40,880 Speaker 1: It's parasocial relationships. People feel like they have social relationships 435 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 1: because of online. 436 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 3: They got their fill already m yep, So they don't need. 437 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 1: To create that in real life. Why would there be 438 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 1: a need for it? Right again, It's evolution, right, it is. 439 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: And it's so difficult because I don't think evolution is 440 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: a bad thing. I think a lot of great things 441 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:59,199 Speaker 1: have come from it. But it's hard to watch the 442 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: way that human hu manity evolves inside of all of 443 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 1: it when you like really start to break it down, 444 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: and especially with just you think about everything that's happening 445 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 1: in the world right now, and there's just such a 446 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: facade over all of it, and you're like, I don't 447 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:14,959 Speaker 1: know if you ever have this feeling, But I'm like 448 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: I sit there and I just try to consume what 449 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: I can. But then like I take a step back, 450 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: and I'm trying to put the pieces together, understand what 451 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: I'm seeing, understand actually, like take a microscope to it 452 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 1: and say, what what is actually true? 453 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 3: What isn't you're talking about on your phone? 454 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 1: Yeah? I just everything you see, right, everything you consume, sure, 455 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: And it makes me scared because it's becoming a lot 456 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 1: harder to decide what's real and what's not now, I'm 457 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: not just talking to a high It's so hard, you know. 458 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 3: It's not just even if it's someone's acting, Yeah, are 459 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 3: is this? Are these people really fight or is this 460 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 3: set up? 461 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: Is there a real interaction? Are these people actually friends? 462 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 1: Is that a real thing that exists? Is that that 463 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 1: place real? Is that a real cop pullover? 464 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 3: Like? 465 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 4: Like? 466 00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 3: Or is that fake? Is that set up to make me? 467 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: So? It makes you from all that consumption, It makes 468 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: you not. 469 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 3: Trust things, totally trust people, and then you. 470 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: Don't want to interact with people because you don't trust 471 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: people based on what you've seen online. 472 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 3: Man, the effects are serious though, You're so right, and 473 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 3: like I so firsthand. 474 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 1: Can can witness it in so many ways because I've 475 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: been involved for what feels like the inception of social 476 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 1: media to our social lives, right, Like, genuinely, I'm not 477 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: talking MySpace in the beginning phases of all of that, 478 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: because that was not an We had a computer room 479 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 1: in our house and everybody sat and they were on 480 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 1: their MySpace page. That was vastly different than the situation 481 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,719 Speaker 1: we're in now, and that was cool and that was like, 482 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,199 Speaker 1: you know, you had limited time that you did that. 483 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 1: There is no limit anymore. You have access to it 484 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: all the time, and if you don't access it all 485 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: the time, you feel left out about what's happening in 486 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: the world. 487 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:50,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 488 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: Right, If you don't pay attention to social media for 489 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 1: twenty four hours, everybody's like, well, you didn't see what happened. Yep, 490 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 1: you don't know that that's going on. You didn't watch 491 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: this show and you don't know who that is. 492 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 3: But see, sometimes it's of fun, like even like when 493 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 3: I come to work here, like I don't know half 494 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 3: the stuff that Bobby and Amy are talking about. I 495 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 3: really don't like even the people they're talking about. I 496 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 3: have no idea, and I purposely live my life that 497 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 3: way because I'm like, why would I want to get mad? 498 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 3: It's something that like, you know, like I'm already mad 499 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 3: at my kids grades, Like why am I getting mad 500 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 3: at something? 501 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:18,640 Speaker 1: Maybe giggle? 502 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 3: And so I'm thinking, like when they talk about it, 503 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 3: I kind of ask questions like, well, tell me more, 504 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 3: and we're getting that human interaction, right, Like I'm not 505 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 3: just reading it from someone I don't know posting a video, 506 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 3: like I'm asking Bobby and Amy, who have spent numerous 507 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 3: hours researching this and I truly when I ask those questions, 508 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 3: I truly don't know like what they're talking about. So 509 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 3: there's kind of a cool feeling of like, no, I 510 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,479 Speaker 3: didn't see what you're talking about. Tell me about it. 511 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: Well, And honestly, that's a good place to be in 512 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 1: right now, especially with what's going on, because it's hard, though. 513 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: I will say, there's a delicate balance of being informed 514 00:22:56,240 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: and being educated while also not being so you know, 515 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: overloaded with what's going on. 516 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 2: You need both. 517 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: You need to be educated, you need to be aware, 518 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: you need to know what impacts you, what it impacts 519 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: the community around you. But you also have to be 520 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,640 Speaker 1: able to consume. Yeah, and if you spend too much 521 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 1: time online, you're not going to be able to h 522 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: There's a very fine line, and so I think that's funny, 523 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: that's important. 524 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 3: What's funny too is that like a lot of younger people, 525 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 3: they looked at the news as like who watches the news? 526 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: Right? 527 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 3: Like people that watch like just twenty four hour news, 528 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 3: who does that? But that's what we're doing. 529 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 1: Now, just a different variation. 530 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 3: Now everyone's watching the news like. 531 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 1: And everyone's a reporter. 532 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 3: It's pretty crazy. 533 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: Well, and like I think about when I was in 534 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: journalism school. This is what's also wild to me from 535 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: this perspective watching everything unfold, is when I was in 536 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: journalism school, I remember telling my professors because I had 537 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 1: watched Newsroom, did you watch that TV show? 538 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 3: I never, I never did know Sortstroum. 539 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:01,199 Speaker 1: Jeff as the lead Jeff. He was a guy that 540 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: was in the Will Smith movie or not Will Smith, 541 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: Will Farrell, Oh, Jef Daniels. Yes, Yes, he's the news director, right, 542 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: he's the news anchor. He's the one who like reports 543 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 1: on everything. And I remember watching that show and being like, 544 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: that's what I want. That's what I want to do, 545 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: and you should watch that show sometimes because it's one 546 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: of my all time payer. But it's what I established 547 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: news to be. 548 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 2: It's what I wanted. 549 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: It was investigative journalism, it was breaking news. It was 550 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: important things. You were impacting the world around you. And 551 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 1: when I was in college and I was in journalism school, 552 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: and my professor was like, that's not real life, that's 553 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: not what it is like. You you know, there's politics 554 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: and you're gonna have to choose which side and you 555 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: do this. And that was even when I was in college, right, 556 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: So fifteen plus years ago, and I just remember looking 557 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 1: at him and saying, I don't want that. I want 558 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: to tell what's real. I want to tell the truth 559 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 1: of stories. He said, that's just not where we are anymore. 560 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: And I remember thinking that was really sad. And you're 561 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: you're seeing it further unfold now, right, because that's what 562 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: it is. You have to choose a side with what 563 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 1: news watch and I hate that. 564 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 2: Like I loved the idea. 565 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: That you could turn on the news and trust what 566 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: the news was saying because it was unbiased, it was investigative. 567 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: You had to have multiple sources, you had to have 568 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 1: all these factual evidence. Now I go online, I'm like, 569 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: people are people are telling stories like everybody's a reporter, 570 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 1: and I have to then go be the person who's 571 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: going to do the research to find out if it's 572 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: actually true or what they added in. 573 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's not what news used to be. 574 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: I fell in love with news for the fact of 575 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: how you can impact somebody. 576 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 3: Did you want to be a news reporter? 577 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 1: That's what you want to I wanted to be a 578 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: news anchor. 579 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 3: When you graduated, what was that was? Was that still 580 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 3: your goal? 581 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 1: Yeah? And I applied for gosh, I want to say, 582 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 1: like forty different like reporter roles, and I didn't get 583 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,439 Speaker 1: any like responses on them. But then like, as I 584 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: was applying room they were in these really small towns. 585 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so, I was gonna say, you weren't ready 586 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 3: to move to Paducah. 587 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, literally, And he had even my same professor even 588 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 1: said that was like, you're gonna have to start really small. 589 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: And I remember thinking like I don't want to do that, 590 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,439 Speaker 1: no way, like I'll figure this out whatever, And I 591 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: just was applying, and then the more and the more 592 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: I was still like that again. That was really the 593 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: inception of social media taking hold at that moment in time, 594 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: and I saw what it was doing, and I got 595 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 1: offered the role of digital director for like Wichita the 596 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 1: iHeart stations. I was like, you know what, I'm just 597 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 1: gonna test the waters here, see if there's something I 598 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,880 Speaker 1: can be good at or whatever. And you know, of course, 599 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: here we are now. But it was weird because it 600 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: was not my original direction at all. I didn't even 601 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: do radio in any form in college. I did newspaper, 602 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: I did the local news, I did like even sports reporting, 603 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,199 Speaker 1: Like I was all in on like the track to 604 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 1: be an anchor, and it just didn't turn that way. Yeah, 605 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 1: but I'm glad it didn't. 606 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 3: I mean I have the same story too. I mean 607 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 3: I wanted to be Peter Jennings was my guy, you know, 608 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 3: like when I was younger, Like I just loved the 609 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 3: idea of being able to interview anyone and everyone together 610 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 3: the story right. But when I graduated college, because i'd worked, 611 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 3: I'd worked in news before college. 612 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 1: Like internships or did you get paid. 613 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 3: I got paid to edit the five o'clock news. First 614 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 3: I ran teleprompter for a few weeks, and then I 615 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 3: got promoted to editing the five o'clock news. So like 616 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 3: I would edit all the videos that would go but 617 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 3: that would play on the five o'clock news packages, not 618 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 3: even the packages I would The reporters would edit the packages. 619 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,400 Speaker 3: I would edit, like if those if. 620 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 2: You were editing the actual broadcast. 621 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 3: No, So like if there was a car crash, they 622 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 3: send the photographer out. Photographer would come back with a 623 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 3: video and he'd be like, here, make a minute reel 624 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 3: out of this, and so I'd make the minute reel 625 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 3: and then this is how old I am. Then we 626 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 3: would take those tapes because they were all edited from 627 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 3: tape to tape, right, So like I would select five 628 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 3: seconds from this shot and I would record to that tape, 629 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 3: and then the final product would be on a tape. 630 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 3: I would label it car crash, and then I would 631 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 3: do like there were probably twenty tapes for every broadcast, 632 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 3: and that would take my box of tapes. And I 633 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,199 Speaker 3: had four players like VHS players. 634 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: Okay, so I'm saying tapes like as in VHS cassette. 635 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 3: They were like VHS tapes, but different format. I think 636 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:12,919 Speaker 3: it was like beta maybe I don't know, got it, 637 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 3: different format. And I had four players one, two, three, four, 638 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 3: VTR one, VTR two, VTR three, VTR four. So when 639 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 3: they were talking about the car crash, I would put 640 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 3: it in VTR one, queue it up, and they'd be like, 641 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 3: all right, VTR one's ready. And we all had headsets 642 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 3: and this is a lot. These are live news broadcasts, 643 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 3: and the director would be like, all right, hit player one. 644 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 3: I hit play and they would take the video and 645 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 3: then when they were done, they'd go back to the anchor. 646 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 3: I would eject one, and then I would put two 647 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 3: in queue it up. All right, the bank robbery is 648 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 3: qued up on two. All right, hit two? Then I 649 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 3: hit two. So what was funny though, is like my 650 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 3: first week, I thought they were done with say two, 651 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 3: and so after we would play the video, I would 652 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 3: rewind it to the for the six o'clock people, I'd 653 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 3: rewind it to the very beginning, and that way is 654 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 3: like ready for them, yeah, And so I rewound it 655 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 3: because I thought we were done with it. But on 656 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 3: air you can see like the and they're like stop, 657 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 3: what are you doing? And they're like, oh my gosh. 658 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 3: So the after that, the whole crew called me fast 659 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 3: Eddie because I was like, whoa fast forward Eddie? What 660 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 3: are you doing? 661 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 2: RELI, it's better for being fast and too slow? 662 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 3: Yes, escually news. So I was always known as fast Eddie. 663 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 3: But that was my first job. And then I went 664 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 3: to college. That's kind of where I was just like 665 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 3: this is where I belong. I loved the crew. I 666 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 3: loved the production crews. I loved the reporters. I love 667 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 3: the anchors, I love the news directors. I loved everything 668 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 3: about it, the news desk. It was so cool to 669 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 3: be in that environment that I'm like, this is what 670 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,719 Speaker 3: I want to do. And so I went to college 671 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 3: for it. And then my first job was to be 672 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 3: a reporter, and I did it for like, I mean, 673 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 3: I'm three weeks and I'm like, this. 674 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: Is not for me, Like you didn't want to do 675 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: the reporting side. 676 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 3: What I didn't like about it was what you're saying. 677 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 3: They told They were telling me what to say mm hmm. 678 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 3: They were telling me what to write, even before I 679 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 3: got to where I was going, Yeah, even if it 680 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 3: was like you're gonna go to this courthouse and you're 681 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 3: gonna talk to this lawyer and this judge, but this 682 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 3: is what we want from it, but you don't even 683 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 3: know like what they're going to say. And so I 684 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 3: didn't like that at all. And then a consultant came 685 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 3: in and they're like, all right, well you bring your 686 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 3: shirts and ties and your suits or whatever. And I 687 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 3: brought all my stuff and they're like that's not gonna work. 688 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 3: That's not gonna work. And I'm like what is this. 689 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 3: I'm like, I can't wear this suit, Like why is 690 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 3: this so important to you guys? So like it's television, yep. 691 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 3: And that immediately was like this is this is dumb, 692 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 3: this is stupid. So I just became a cameraman. And 693 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 3: so I did camera, ran the live truck, and I 694 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 3: would go out and shoot everything. But I was a 695 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 3: journal I was like you, it's journalism major. So like 696 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 3: I would write all the stories and they loved me 697 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 3: because every time i'd come back, I'd edit my own stuff. 698 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 3: I'd write my own stuff and like, so that's kind 699 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 3: of a reporter without being on camera. 700 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to do it without all of the 701 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: without the nono. And I'm telling you that was such 702 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: a big part of it. I have another story for you. 703 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: I'm going to tell You're gonna take a quick break 704 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 1: and we'll be our back. So you talk about that 705 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: side of news. I was learning a lot of that. 706 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 1: And mind you, it was even more in detail being 707 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 1: a woman, because they were like, your hair can't be 708 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: that color, or make sure you were at shrape or 709 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: not curly or vice versa, or you look better in 710 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: this color. You don't look as as large in this color. 711 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: Like it was very much about physical appearance. And understand 712 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: it was TV, it made sense, but it was just 713 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: very much like everything was controlled. It was a controlled environment, 714 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: and everything I thought about news was like chaos, which 715 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: is why I loved it. Everything is just like it 716 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: happens breaking news. Bam, here we go go get the story. 717 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 1: Yeah right, And it just wasn't. It was so much 718 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 1: more curated than I really thought. Because there was one 719 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 1: I did an internship at our local news station before 720 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,479 Speaker 1: where I graduated college because I wanted to see it 721 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: was what I wanted and I loved it. There was 722 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: one time that I went out. There was this guy 723 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 1: named Larry and that's what I was about to google. 724 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 1: He was a long standing anchor and I loved him. 725 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 1: Larry Hadiberg and he like legendary broadcaster and everybody knew him. 726 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 1: He was that guy that you'd see him in person 727 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 1: and he was famous, yeah you know. And I went 728 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: with him to do a story and a cameraman was 729 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: with him. I was just the intern hanging out and 730 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: we went into the middle of the Flint Hills. Middle 731 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: of Flint Hills. It's like one of the coolest parts 732 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: Aboutkansas is the Flint Hills and Flint Hills are relatively untouched. 733 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 2: There're this beautiful scape of. 734 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: Like rolling hills and but there was this woman, I 735 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 1: think it was a woman was living out in the 736 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: middle of the Flint Hills. No electricity, no running water, 737 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: no nothing. Still. This was like when I was in 738 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 1: college and or like right at high school and she 739 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 1: was just living her best life out there and we 740 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 1: did this whole. 741 00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 2: Interview and I just like came away. 742 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: I was like, Larry, that's what this is supposed to be, 743 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 1: Like this is like and I and I had that feeling. 744 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: I was like, this is it. This is what I'm 745 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: going to do with my life. And then i'd you mean, lady, 746 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 1: Larry love Like Larry, We're good to go and do 747 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 1: these cool interviews and you just learn about cool people 748 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: and and and so like I had that experience. But 749 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 1: then on the other side, I went with a really 750 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 1: well known reporter and we went on like a court 751 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 1: assignment and I was tweeting from the courtroom, like the 752 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,479 Speaker 1: live updates. We were on a murder trial on one 753 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: of these, and it was really cool to me to 754 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 1: like experience all of. 755 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 3: That and are there, Yes, that's kind of fun, and you're. 756 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: All eating lunch together, like truly, what you see on 757 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:37,479 Speaker 1: online is what it looks like or what it used 758 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: to look like. And the things that I just heard 759 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 1: of how we were going to report it and what 760 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: we could and couldn't talk about and and how it 761 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 1: had to be shaped, and I just that came crashing down, 762 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 1: Like this experience I had with Larry was so cool 763 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: and I. 764 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 2: Was like, this is it. 765 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 1: This is what I'm going to do with my life. 766 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: And then I had this other experience. I'm like, never mind, 767 00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 1: I don't want to do any of those. I don't 768 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: want to be attached to this because while it's awesome 769 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: to be part of it and you get and you 770 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 1: do get to play a hand on some level, there's 771 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 1: just so much control involved, you know, And I could 772 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 1: not imagine what that's even like now, you know what 773 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: I mean, Like that was that was so long ago, 774 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 1: and that wasn't even what we were seeing now, Like 775 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 1: now we're creally we're truly diverse, yeah, you know, and 776 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 1: in the landscape and polarize of who's on what side 777 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: or whatever. But yeah, news is wild to me to 778 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 1: think about it is wild. 779 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 3: I remember too, like those consultants would also because people 780 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,320 Speaker 3: always ask like why did like news anchors or reporters 781 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 3: took like this, the man walked in with a mask 782 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 3: in his on his head. He asked for a million dollars. 783 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,800 Speaker 3: They didn't give it to him like, and I remember, 784 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 3: thank you because I remember they would tell us to 785 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 3: talk like that. 786 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. 787 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:55,720 Speaker 3: Slow down, slow down, and you gotta talk like this, 788 00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 3: enunciate your words, make sure they understan stand what you're 789 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 3: talking about. In your hands vagina, Hans, do you remember that? 790 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 3: Put your hands but your. 791 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 1: You just lock something to my friend that I definitely 792 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 1: hid back there. 793 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 3: Put your thumb together, thumbs together, and your index fingers together, 794 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 3: and hold it right over your belt, Like what are 795 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 3: you talking about? I would never stand like that. 796 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 1: Yep, very much so and like or and I was 797 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 1: always I've always been a hand talker. Yeah, so it's 798 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 1: not good at that because they wanted you to keep. 799 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 2: Her down out Hans, and then they want you to 800 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 2: talk like that. 801 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, this feels very unnatural. 802 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 3: Story Like so, when you're with Larry, would you record 803 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 3: so would Larry record a little live stand up? And 804 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 3: would you be like? Can I can I do one? 805 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 4: So? 806 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 1: I didn't do them with Larry, but I did do 807 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 1: them with the reporters I was with. So I have 808 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 1: a bunch and like one of my news stories, I 809 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 1: got an award for one of my new stories that 810 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 1: I did in college. 811 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 3: That's cool. 812 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 1: For Like, it was Kansas Broadcasters Association Award and it 813 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 1: was for a live fire. I went to Fort Riley, 814 00:35:59,080 --> 00:35:59,800 Speaker 1: which is the military. 815 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,359 Speaker 2: But and I did like things with it. 816 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 1: I was like crawling in the grass and really mean 817 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 1: like a and they shot tanks aft for us, like 818 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 1: doing like literal live fire and I was in a 819 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,880 Speaker 1: tank and I was like doing all this reporting and 820 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,320 Speaker 1: I loved that. It's such a cool experience. 821 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 3: There are definitely some cool parts to it, for sure. 822 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 3: I think the worst part for me, though, was seeing 823 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 3: how desensitized you would get and people would get. Because 824 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 3: I was in it for a while, is in it 825 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 3: for almost ten years. I took a break in the middle. 826 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,359 Speaker 3: I did like four years, did something else, and then 827 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,879 Speaker 3: went back to news for like three more years. That's 828 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:35,800 Speaker 3: something else was work with Bobby at another two V 829 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 3: station by the way. But but but being in news, 830 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 3: like you know, after your fourth fatality car accident, you're 831 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 3: kind of just like going to another one house fire. 832 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 3: Oh people are in there, dang, okay, let me shoot. 833 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 1: It, Like yeah, what well you have to because if 834 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 1: you came in emotion then it's like it's a completely 835 00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:57,239 Speaker 1: different story. 836 00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:58,759 Speaker 3: But I think even as a cameraman, I was like, 837 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 3: who could be the first one there? Oh, I'm the 838 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 3: only one that has this, get this on air, quick, quick, quick, 839 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 3: Like what is it? It's a dead baby? Awesome? What like, 840 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,319 Speaker 3: what are we talking about? Yeah, Like, it's just that 841 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 3: like kind of would drive me nuts a little bit, 842 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 3: and then my wife too. I'd get home and tell her. 843 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,759 Speaker 3: You'd be like, you're a little too excited about that, 844 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh, that's not good. 845 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:17,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's right. 846 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,879 Speaker 1: You'd get excited to cover stories because that was part 847 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 1: of the nature, right, You just get excited to cover 848 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:22,360 Speaker 1: a big. 849 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 3: Story and to be the only one to cover it 850 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:25,839 Speaker 3: mm hmm, and be the first one to put it, 851 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,839 Speaker 3: to tell the story before everyone. 852 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,360 Speaker 2: Else really desensitize. 853 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just I don't know, but honestly. 854 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,400 Speaker 1: Now everybody's desensitized so. 855 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 3: So so it's all good. Yeah. That was cool to 856 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 3: talk about that though, Morgan like, yeah, I thought about 857 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 3: that stuff in a while. That's fun, I know. 858 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,359 Speaker 1: And it's like the reason I was even thinking about 859 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 1: it was like people were talking about the like the 860 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 1: small decisions that change their trajectory and life. Yeah, and 861 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 1: watching that the TV show on Netflix called Ripple really 862 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 1: made me think about it. Yeah, because it's like the 863 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,600 Speaker 1: ripple effect of life, the interactions you have and how 864 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 1: they impact you later on. And I love to just 865 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:08,880 Speaker 1: look back on my life and see different ripples and 866 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,359 Speaker 1: and see different moments where I could have chosen something else. Yeah, 867 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 1: And I wonder what that Morgan is doing in an 868 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:15,959 Speaker 1: alternate reality, like what her. 869 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 2: Life looks like. 870 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 3: She's crawling in that mud right there, like still trying 871 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:19,800 Speaker 3: to get that story. 872 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 2: She might have joined the army after that story. 873 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,239 Speaker 1: There's one version in the reality that it is, Like, 874 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 1: I really do think about that a lot, like the 875 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 1: different variations of me that do potentially exist in different planes. 876 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,480 Speaker 2: I know it's wild to always talk about, but if the. 877 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 1: Idea that there are multiple realities out there, which not 878 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,400 Speaker 1: completely far fetched based on a lot of science, but 879 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,400 Speaker 1: I do think about the different versions of me that exists. 880 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:47,719 Speaker 3: And they just don't run into each other. 881 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you're on different timelines. 882 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,279 Speaker 3: That it's pretty crazy, you know what I mean. 883 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 1: And they chose different things, So like, why are you 884 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:55,920 Speaker 1: living this one? 885 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,279 Speaker 3: I don't know, why is this the only one you know? 886 00:38:58,360 --> 00:38:58,880 Speaker 3: And remember? 887 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:04,880 Speaker 1: Potentially and maybe like once you know, maybe once we die, 888 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:06,799 Speaker 1: we can't. Yeah, we go into that new other one 889 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,319 Speaker 1: that's still like there, you start a new timeline, like 890 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:10,399 Speaker 1: you go back to a certain point. 891 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:12,760 Speaker 3: I'm curious to see if that If that's real. 892 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,719 Speaker 1: Me too, If my conspiracy is about TV shows and 893 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 1: movies are true, then it is truly and we'll never know. 894 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 1: That's that's the funniest part. It's like, truly, we will 895 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,799 Speaker 1: never know. We're never gonna have the answer. You think 896 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,800 Speaker 1: about all the conspiracy theories in the world and authens, 897 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 1: We're truly never gonna know, never gonna have the right 898 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 1: answer or the full answer at that. And so I 899 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 1: think about that a lot too, where I'm like, do 900 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,720 Speaker 1: I when I die, do I finally get all the answers? 901 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,319 Speaker 1: You know, like I can't tell anybody who knows? So, like, 902 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 1: is that the moment where you guys like give me everything. 903 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:42,879 Speaker 3: And think about all the people that have already died. 904 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,400 Speaker 3: They would love to come back and tell you right, 905 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 3: but they did they. 906 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 1: Get all the information that we're trying to understand it. 907 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 1: I think about that way too audi. 908 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 3: Way too much. I can tell way too much. 909 00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:58,920 Speaker 1: This is what these are the spirals that I go 910 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 1: down just thinking about life in a good way, Like 911 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,759 Speaker 1: it's cool to think about what, Like what do you 912 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 1: think the other versions of Eddie or Outh are doing 913 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:08,399 Speaker 1: if you went on different trajectories. 914 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 3: I don't think that there are different versions of Eddie 915 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:15,799 Speaker 3: because there are so many different versions of Eddie, like 916 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 3: in this life, in this timeline, like they were. Eddie 917 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 3: at ten years old was so different than me. Now 918 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 3: Eddie at twenty five was so different than me now. 919 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 1: Like he's so see picture that say Eddie at ten, 920 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 1: Eddie at twenty five, and there you were with him, 921 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,400 Speaker 1: but then you guys broke apart and went different trajectories. 922 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I like the movie. I like the 923 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:39,279 Speaker 3: movie idea, I really do. But I just think that 924 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,799 Speaker 3: that's kind of what makes Ediot's forty six. Yeah, it's 925 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:44,719 Speaker 3: you know, like I think that's just all those things 926 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 3: is what made me me. 927 00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:50,239 Speaker 1: But they're still you. It's just that you have think ten. 928 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 3: Year old Eddie went the direction he was going to go. 929 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think everything happens how it's supposed 930 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:55,359 Speaker 1: to happen. 931 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 3: Twenty five year old Eddie's dead for sure, then, like 932 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 3: he's already dead well that was his trajection leading that life. Man, 933 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 3: he was going nowhere good. 934 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:04,920 Speaker 2: And he that's why he's not you. Youse are two 935 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:05,439 Speaker 2: serpent things. 936 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,400 Speaker 1: But you still carry the same things to the moment 937 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,319 Speaker 1: wherever you continue on. Yeah, it's still that person that's 938 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 1: still continuing on you just kind of variations of you 939 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 1: break off. 940 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 3: I wonder if there's a version of me that is 941 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 3: living the life I want. 942 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:18,760 Speaker 2: What's the life you want? 943 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,000 Speaker 3: You know, like on an island, on a beach somewhere. 944 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 1: Like he like just went the fishing charger. 945 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:29,920 Speaker 3: Playing golf every day. Like I guess he'd still have family. 946 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know, but like, I mean, 947 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,759 Speaker 3: I'd still want to have my family, but I'd want 948 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,200 Speaker 3: to be somewhere different. 949 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 1: I think about you going to the Homeland. 950 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:40,719 Speaker 2: You say that a lot. 951 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,640 Speaker 1: I don't say that mean yeah, And I think if 952 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 1: you were to have followed that track, a variation of 953 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,000 Speaker 1: you had followed that track, I think you would have 954 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,759 Speaker 1: everything you want. I think the culture is different there, Yeah, 955 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,399 Speaker 1: and that's very much the culture when I was there. 956 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 1: They took yesses all the time. 957 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:55,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think. 958 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:56,000 Speaker 2: Any of them had jobs. 959 00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,600 Speaker 3: I like that a lot. Of breaks. Yeah, I'm gonna 960 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,800 Speaker 3: get a little I'm a little uh, guys, I'm gonna 961 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:01,480 Speaker 3: do yesta. 962 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,880 Speaker 1: They didn't hang out well midnight where you've. 963 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:04,440 Speaker 2: Been taking it out. 964 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was the lifestot. That was the culture. 965 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 3: You do whatever you wanted, you know, Like growing up, 966 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,480 Speaker 3: that was kind of the culture that we had in 967 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,800 Speaker 3: our house. Like I don't remember taking naps. Like my 968 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,200 Speaker 3: dad was a very hard worker. He was in a 969 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,359 Speaker 3: nap guy. But he played Hardney partied hard. No, No, 970 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,560 Speaker 3: he worked hard and he played hard. Like that was 971 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,160 Speaker 3: kind of the style. Like the stay up till midnight 972 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 3: that was normal. It's crazy to me, I think like 973 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,399 Speaker 3: my old self, my ten year old ten year old 974 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,000 Speaker 3: Eddie would be like, dude, what are you doing going 975 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 3: to bed at like ten o'clock at night? Like that's 976 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,400 Speaker 3: like you're not going to do that. Man. We would 977 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,600 Speaker 3: not go to bed before midnight as a kid. 978 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:44,400 Speaker 1: Is that crazy? 979 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,920 Speaker 3: Yeah? But we were late everywhere. And if you woke 980 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,440 Speaker 3: up late, woke up late. I had tarties all the time, 981 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,560 Speaker 3: like all the freaking time. 982 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 2: Okay, you want to go down to like a different 983 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 2: rabbit hole too. 984 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,600 Speaker 1: That this rerounds me of is the fact that we 985 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:00,320 Speaker 1: are now in jobs and we had to go to 986 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,520 Speaker 1: school and do all these things touse the industrial revolution. 987 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 3: Talk to me. 988 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:08,000 Speaker 1: So I was watching a whole see it all starts 989 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 1: from a show. 990 00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 3: I know it all starts from the show. 991 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,719 Speaker 1: I was watching YouTube. There was like a historian that 992 00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:14,560 Speaker 1: puts something together and he was talking this is like 993 00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:18,200 Speaker 1: all factual. He was talking about the industrial Revolution and 994 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:22,239 Speaker 1: how it ended up creating like an industrialized society. Yes, 995 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,440 Speaker 1: because of the things that they needed at the time. Yes, 996 00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,719 Speaker 1: but we never broke out of that. Yes, so we 997 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,799 Speaker 1: continued still sending people to school and doing all these 998 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:31,640 Speaker 1: hours in this long form of that to then go 999 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 1: into the workforce, because that's what was created then. Yes, 1000 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:40,200 Speaker 1: but we're not in an industrial revolution anymore. But for 1001 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,960 Speaker 1: several years, we weren't. For several decades, we weren't after it. 1002 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:43,960 Speaker 3: What do we do after that? 1003 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. He didn't get into the aftermath. 1004 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,759 Speaker 3: We know what happened in the middle there, because go ahead. 1005 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,080 Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is like we so like our 1006 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:55,240 Speaker 1: whole society will do things to help fit the problem 1007 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,759 Speaker 1: of whatever is happening. Right, And so at the time 1008 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,600 Speaker 1: they did the schooling. They did the edge location and 1009 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 1: they did the jobs to support the Industrial Revolution. But 1010 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 1: then like, yeah, we still had it, but like we 1011 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,920 Speaker 1: created what they wanted to create. So then after that, 1012 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,600 Speaker 1: why didn't we go into a new variation? Why did 1013 00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,840 Speaker 1: we just stay on the same track that they created 1014 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:18,720 Speaker 1: all those years ago in the Industrial Revolution? 1015 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:25,400 Speaker 3: Okay, so the Industrial Revolution was created for to mass 1016 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:26,840 Speaker 3: produce goods. 1017 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:31,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, metals, everything, kind of dude, Yeah. 1018 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:35,239 Speaker 3: Whatever, we still do that today, yes, but we do 1019 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,200 Speaker 3: it so much that we don't need it, you know 1020 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,040 Speaker 3: what I mean, Like we we're over or we do 1021 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:40,640 Speaker 3: need it. Do you think you would be able to 1022 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:41,959 Speaker 3: harvest your own corn? 1023 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,160 Speaker 1: Well, I'm not. There's certain things, yes, but we're in 1024 00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:49,280 Speaker 1: an over consumption society now right, Like we've over created, 1025 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,320 Speaker 1: We've done too much. There's too much of everything. Yes, 1026 00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:56,479 Speaker 1: So there's no longer this like the he was talking 1027 00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:57,920 Speaker 1: about the This is interesting. 1028 00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:59,959 Speaker 3: I'm trying to follow what you're saying, and it's. 1029 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,439 Speaker 1: In a minute since I've watched it, so I'm really 1030 00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:02,239 Speaker 1: just throlling this out there. 1031 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:03,799 Speaker 3: What do you want to what do you want to 1032 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,359 Speaker 3: stop the way we live our life on like going 1033 00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:07,319 Speaker 3: to jobs, the. 1034 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,800 Speaker 1: Hamster wheel, you know, like that this belief that like, Okay, 1035 00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:12,160 Speaker 1: once you hit a certain age, you go to school, 1036 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,560 Speaker 1: and you go to school for your whole childhood and 1037 00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:16,080 Speaker 1: then once you're done out of there, you go straight 1038 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 1: into the workforce. Sure, right, Yeah, and there's no time, 1039 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:20,920 Speaker 1: there's no life, there's no breathing room. 1040 00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:22,879 Speaker 2: That's not how we were supposed to stay. We were 1041 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:24,160 Speaker 2: not supposed to stay in that hamster. 1042 00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,560 Speaker 3: Well, the money has kind of kept us in that routine. 1043 00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:26,879 Speaker 4: Two. 1044 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,000 Speaker 2: There's a lot of things that have evolved in it, 1045 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:29,879 Speaker 2: but it was and. 1046 00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:31,120 Speaker 3: The fact that we don't know how to get our 1047 00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,799 Speaker 3: own food, true, like we don't know how to make 1048 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:35,120 Speaker 3: our own clothes. 1049 00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,440 Speaker 1: But we also created that problem ourselves because we industrialized, right, 1050 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:38,959 Speaker 1: So like. 1051 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,360 Speaker 3: All because of money. Yeah, so all because of money, 1052 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,759 Speaker 3: because we wanted to make more money, and the only 1053 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 3: way we can make more money is if we make 1054 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:48,200 Speaker 3: more shirts. 1055 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,000 Speaker 1: Well, then you take me into a different rabbit hole. 1056 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:51,080 Speaker 2: Because everything's about money. 1057 00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:53,280 Speaker 1: Everything, everything's about. 1058 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:56,359 Speaker 3: I think everything that we do is about money, and 1059 00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,520 Speaker 3: everything that's dishonest and bad is about money. 1060 00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:02,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, the entire world is about money. It's all about 1061 00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:03,399 Speaker 1: making money. 1062 00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,840 Speaker 3: No, I know, but we need it. But do we 1063 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:10,040 Speaker 3: I mean, hopefully Elon must says we're not gonna need 1064 00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:11,040 Speaker 3: it soon so we'll see. 1065 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not talking about him. I don't know what 1066 00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:15,560 Speaker 1: he's on. 1067 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,520 Speaker 3: Man, what a deep conversation today with you. This is awesome. 1068 00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:21,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, I need to find that YouTube video again. 1069 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:21,959 Speaker 1: But it was so cool. 1070 00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:27,200 Speaker 3: Why are you thinking so deeply now? And I'm not 1071 00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,080 Speaker 3: saying that you haven't before, but I'm just wondering, like, 1072 00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,400 Speaker 3: because when we do this, we usually I know it 1073 00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:33,759 Speaker 3: probably starts with like, how are the kids? Let me 1074 00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,080 Speaker 3: tell you about the kids, but like we've never had 1075 00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:37,520 Speaker 3: a conversation like this before. 1076 00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I like it. I don't know that 1077 00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,759 Speaker 1: it's not I don't know that people are gonna love it, right, Like, 1078 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,479 Speaker 1: I think there's a level of that where I don't 1079 00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,319 Speaker 1: know that I want to show all the sides of 1080 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,839 Speaker 1: priziness that I go in my brain, But there's also 1081 00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:51,080 Speaker 1: a part of me now where I'm just like, huh, 1082 00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:52,000 Speaker 1: I don't care anymore. 1083 00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:52,200 Speaker 4: Man. 1084 00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,759 Speaker 3: What I wish though, is like listeners, people listening to this, 1085 00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,560 Speaker 3: Like if I was listening to this, I would be 1086 00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,840 Speaker 3: upset because like I have an opinion on those but 1087 00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:00,759 Speaker 3: I can't chime in. 1088 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to share on you. But Eddie, that's 1089 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,600 Speaker 1: what I loved, what the other side of what I 1090 00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,959 Speaker 1: studied in college, my miners and leadership studies. We would 1091 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,839 Speaker 1: sit in a room and have conversations with people from 1092 00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:16,400 Speaker 1: all different walks of life, all different kinds of beliefs, values, traditions, 1093 00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,560 Speaker 1: and we'd sit and we'd just argue and talk about things. 1094 00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:21,759 Speaker 3: If that sounds like my worst nightmare, but like not. 1095 00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:22,840 Speaker 2: Arguing in this instead is. 1096 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:24,520 Speaker 3: Bad, I know, but I just don't like to argue. 1097 00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:26,960 Speaker 1: But it was like a to understand each other, to 1098 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,479 Speaker 1: understand what you went through, to understand what your life 1099 00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,520 Speaker 1: looks like, why your lifestyle is different than mine. 1100 00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:33,239 Speaker 2: And I loved it. 1101 00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,520 Speaker 1: I loved those conversations to give me perspective, right to 1102 00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:40,000 Speaker 1: see to go out into the world and see things differently. 1103 00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:42,799 Speaker 1: And that feels like what this conversation is. And I'm 1104 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:44,719 Speaker 1: just I want to have more of that. If the work, 1105 00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:46,440 Speaker 1: there's a conversations that are missing. 1106 00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:49,879 Speaker 3: We're more peaceful people like I think, like I don't 1107 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,360 Speaker 3: want to have an argument with someone who's trying to 1108 00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,080 Speaker 3: be right. You know, you can't be in those rooms 1109 00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,319 Speaker 3: and try and be right because like, and even me, 1110 00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,560 Speaker 3: I can't. Yeah, I can't want to be right because 1111 00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:01,480 Speaker 3: then I'm listen to you. I'm just going to keep 1112 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,840 Speaker 3: thinking on what I can say to convince you that 1113 00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:04,880 Speaker 3: I'm right and you're wrong. 1114 00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:05,920 Speaker 1: No, you know what I mean. 1115 00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:07,480 Speaker 3: And those are the conversations, and I'm like, I just 1116 00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:08,440 Speaker 3: don't want to be a part of that. 1117 00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:10,759 Speaker 1: No, And that's never how those rooms were you You 1118 00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:12,720 Speaker 1: had to go in there open minded. You really didn't 1119 00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:16,320 Speaker 1: thrive in that environment unless you were already open minded 1120 00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:17,200 Speaker 1: to the belief of others. 1121 00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,960 Speaker 3: Right, you were cool with being like eh, okay, yeah, 1122 00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:21,239 Speaker 3: all right, I guess I had that all wrong. 1123 00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,360 Speaker 1: It wasn't like a cool It was just like a 1124 00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,959 Speaker 1: oh that's a different perspective that I've never really thought 1125 00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:26,399 Speaker 1: of that from. 1126 00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that, you know, just like not that 1127 00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:29,400 Speaker 2: I agreed with him. 1128 00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:30,960 Speaker 1: And most of the time you'd leave still believe in 1129 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,879 Speaker 1: the same things that you believe, but you'd have more 1130 00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,479 Speaker 1: behind it, right, you'd have Heck, you'd even understand why 1131 00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:42,400 Speaker 1: you really believed it. It would just challenge like you 1132 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,000 Speaker 1: were raised in a certain way and you were taught 1133 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,040 Speaker 1: this way, but is that what you actually feel yeah, 1134 00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,319 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and so people would just 1135 00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:52,360 Speaker 1: leave there having conversations that were not encouraged to have anymore. 1136 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:54,440 Speaker 1: Like I love having these conversations. 1137 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:55,240 Speaker 3: They're good conversations. 1138 00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,160 Speaker 1: I don't like having them in a comment section, like 1139 00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,480 Speaker 1: I don't know you. We're not going to sit here 1140 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:00,920 Speaker 1: and go back, and it's because it's not going to 1141 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,839 Speaker 1: help anybody. But with people in my life, I'd love 1142 00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,319 Speaker 1: to have these conversations, like what do you think? Tell 1143 00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,480 Speaker 1: me about all your views are in the world so 1144 00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:09,400 Speaker 1: I can understand. 1145 00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:11,040 Speaker 3: That's fun. I like it. 1146 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, may we'll do more of our our things 1147 00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:13,640 Speaker 1: like this. 1148 00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,080 Speaker 3: We just keep talking about things. 1149 00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,800 Speaker 1: I can go here all day. I know the rabbit 1150 00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,600 Speaker 1: holes that I go down. Hmm, they're crazy. And I 1151 00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,840 Speaker 1: don't listen. You could, you could. Anybody can write me 1152 00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:26,360 Speaker 1: and be like this is all in correct, and you 1153 00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,440 Speaker 1: know what, probably yeah, But that's how those are the 1154 00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:30,640 Speaker 1: that's how you learn too. 1155 00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,239 Speaker 3: That's how you learn too by being incorrect and like, 1156 00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:35,319 Speaker 3: but but you're right. You have to listen to other 1157 00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:39,160 Speaker 3: people and instead of you trying to prove to other 1158 00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:42,879 Speaker 3: people that you are right, understand like what other people 1159 00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,239 Speaker 3: are saying and how are you wrong or how have 1160 00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,600 Speaker 3: you been looking at that all wrong? Right? Like that's 1161 00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:48,279 Speaker 3: a big part of it. 1162 00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's having conversations. Back to what you said 1163 00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:52,960 Speaker 1: all in the beginning. Yes, it's having conversations. 1164 00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,680 Speaker 3: Let's get out and talk to people. It's important, like 1165 00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,399 Speaker 3: the bartender, you know, yeah, it's the bartender. 1166 00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:00,399 Speaker 1: Okay, we're going to get out of the this bar. 1167 00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,320 Speaker 1: But any thanks for joining. People can find Eddie. 1168 00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,719 Speaker 3: Producer Reddy you know it and listen to just all 1169 00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,920 Speaker 3: the podcasts, all that stuff everything. 1170 00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:11,880 Speaker 2: And I'm at my Girl Morgan. You can follow a 1171 00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:13,160 Speaker 2: show at Bobby Bone Show. 1172 00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:14,000 Speaker 1: Bye everybody. 1173 00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,280 Speaker 4: That's the best bits of the week with Morgan. Thanks 1174 00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,359 Speaker 4: for listening. Be sure to check out the other two 1175 00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,000 Speaker 4: parts this weekend. Go follow the show on all social 1176 00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:23,400 Speaker 4: platforms Bobby. 1177 00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:24,759 Speaker 3: Bone Show and follow at web 1178 00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:28,200 Speaker 4: Girl Morgan to submit your listener questions for next week's episode.