1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: It's time to Catch a Cheater. Only on the Table Show, 2 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: Kim is on the phone today for to Catch a Cheater. 3 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:10,399 Speaker 1: She's been with her husband Rob for four years, but 4 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:12,079 Speaker 1: now she thinks something might be going on. So in 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: a few minutes, we're going to call and see if 6 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: we can catch him if he is cheating, but hopefully 7 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: he's not. Kim, what's going on? Why do you think 8 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: Bob might be cheating on you? 9 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 2: Basically when we met, we met at a time when 10 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 2: we were just kind of done with the whole dating scene. 11 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 2: Bob had actually been married before before we met. They 12 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 2: separated amicably. They all still keep in touch. You know. 13 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 2: They had met at Berkeley and they both were kind 14 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 2: of like weird hippie type, so they clicked. Rob, in 15 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 2: his own words, is kind of like grown up since then, 16 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 2: and he's happy where he's at. We don't really fight 17 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,279 Speaker 2: much at all, and he's never really been the laundering 18 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 2: eye type of guy. He still is very loving and doting, 19 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 2: and after forty years, like he still treats me to 20 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 2: romantic nights out and gives me gifts and buys me flowers. 21 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 3: That kind of. 22 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 2: Feels a little silly that I'm even calling. 23 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:12,119 Speaker 3: But basically. 24 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 2: Rob's ex wife, Emily, like I said, they still talk 25 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 2: a little bit. We've met a few times. She's been 26 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 2: our wedding. She's wonderful. They have a son, but he's 27 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 2: grown and older, and nothing like trying them really together much, 28 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 2: you know. And also with having a son, I understand 29 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 2: there's going to be co parenting, there's going to be 30 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 2: conversations together and stuff. 31 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 4: So that's not a. 32 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 3: Problem with me. 33 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 2: They are on good terms and I appreciate that. I've 34 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 2: never felt threatened by his relationship with her until lately. 35 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 2: So basically the last three weeks, it seems like they've 36 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 2: been talking a lot more than usual. Again, not like 37 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 2: a big deal, but he's been secretive about it, like 38 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 2: when she calls, he kind of leaves the room or 39 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 2: text he'll like get up and walk away. I've tried 40 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 2: really hard not to pry. He's a drama free kind 41 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 2: of guy, so he's very open and usually shares everything 42 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 2: with me. So I thought it was weird that he 43 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 2: was kind of sneaking away sim if there's anything wrong, 44 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 2: if there was anything I could do to help him, 45 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 2: you know, because he seemed a little closed off and 46 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 2: he just basically responded like, don't worry, I'm handling things 47 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 2: and left it at that. 48 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 3: So I don't know. 49 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 2: I just want to know if there's something I need 50 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 2: to worry about, if he's rekindling something with his ex, 51 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:42,959 Speaker 2: or maybe there's something more. 52 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 4: I just don't know. That's something that's super vague. 53 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 5: He says, I'm handling it, and it makes it sound 54 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 5: like there's a problem. 55 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 2: I don't know. It's not like it was an emergency situation. 56 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 2: It just seems like I don't know. They're having a conversation. 57 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 2: He doesn't want me to see it or hear it, 58 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 2: And that's. 59 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, strange. It's been four years and everything's been cool, 60 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: and now you're having concerns. That means something's changed. 61 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 4: You'd be surprising you. 62 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, like your birthday son. 63 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 2: The other thing is, like you know, I said, she 64 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 2: and I are. 65 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 3: We're not close by any means we. 66 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:16,239 Speaker 4: Know each other. 67 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 2: But it would be weird that he. 68 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 3: Would plan something. 69 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 4: Good. 70 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: That'd be a strange person to plan your birthday. Would 71 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: all right, well, well, yeah, plays song come back. You 72 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,839 Speaker 1: already told us a grocery store he's a rewards card 73 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: member at, so we'll call and pretend to be from 74 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: the grocery store and say that every single month, we 75 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: choose one random Rewards card member who gets free flowers 76 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: delivered from our Floria department, and we'll see if he 77 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,119 Speaker 1: sends them to you or to somebody else. Okay, sounds good, 78 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: Thank you, I appreciate it. Plaus On, come back and 79 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: get you to catch a cheeter next, if you're just 80 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: joining us for today's to Catch a Cheater. Kim is 81 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: on the phone and she's been married to her husband, 82 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: Bob for four years, but now she thinks he might 83 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: be cheating. So in a second, we're going to call 84 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: him and pretend to be from the grocery store that 85 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: he's a rewards card member at, and say that every 86 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: single month, we choose one rewards member who gets free 87 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: flowers delivered from our floral department, totally free, and see 88 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: if he believes us, and if he does, see who 89 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: he sends them to, if he sends them to his 90 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: wife or to someone else. So, Kim, before we do that, 91 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: why don't you catch everybody up on your situation. 92 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, my husband husband Bob, and I have been married 93 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 2: for four years. He was previously married to his ex 94 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 2: wife Emily. They stay in communication, but not much, and 95 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 2: lately he's been sneaking off to speak with her and 96 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 2: it's making me question thing. 97 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, you ready? First to Colin? Yeah, okay, 98 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: here we go. 99 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 3: Hello. 100 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 1: Hi, this is Corbyn calling from So I was looking 101 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:55,799 Speaker 1: for our Rewards card member named Bob. 102 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's me, Bob. 103 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: Please don't hang up. This is not a market phone call. 104 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: I'm actually calling to say congrats. Here this month's big winner. 105 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 3: Oho. What surpris or is there? Yeah? 106 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: Every single month we choose one Rewards Card member to 107 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: say thank you very much for shopping with us and 108 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: being a loyal customer. You've just won thirty six long 109 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: stem red roses, a box of chocolates, and a card 110 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: to be delivered to anybody that you want within the 111 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: fifty United States. 112 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 3: Oh cool, awesome. 113 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: I can take the information down over the phone. 114 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 3: I know go one going to send it, so I 115 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:28,239 Speaker 3: can tell you over the phone. 116 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: So first I'll need the first last name of the 117 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: person who'd likes to send them to. 118 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 3: Kim. Okay, same as mine. We're married. 119 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: Oh, your this is your wife. 120 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 3: In my life. Yeah. 121 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: Anything you want to put on a card? 122 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 3: Uh sure, I'll say I love you and we should talk. 123 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 1: Sim Well, I guess you can talk to her right now, 124 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: because Bob, this is actually the Jewbill Show. It's a 125 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: radio show. My name is jeubel Hi, I'm Nina Hi, 126 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: and I'm Victoria and we do a segment on the 127 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: show called to Catch a Cheater where if you think 128 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: your significant other mind me messing around, you can try 129 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: to see what they send flowers to. And your wife, 130 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: Kim is actually on the phone, Taba. 131 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 3: See what's up. Why I'm a little bit college guard. 132 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 3: Why did you set this up? 133 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 2: Well, I am. I wasn't really sure what else to do. 134 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 2: I kind of feel like there's something going on with 135 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 2: Emily that you're not telling me. 136 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 3: You're right, yeah, are you? 137 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 2: Yeah? 138 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 3: I mean there's yeah. So I don't really want to 139 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 3: be doing this over the sun. But Emily, as I've 140 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 3: told you, is still working in economic development. She's developing 141 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 3: programs around the US. She's obviously had a more lucrative 142 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 3: career than me, so the hippie stuff that we used 143 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 3: to do did not help me in the same way 144 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 3: as you have joked. She's an economic specialist. As I've 145 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 3: told you that she recently started a new job at 146 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 3: the Peace Corps and she's being sent abroad to a 147 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 3: particularly dangerous place. But there is a good chance that 148 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 3: she won't come back. Yeah, So we've been communicating more 149 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 3: than we normally do since the news of her relocation. 150 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 2: Wow, I mean I believe that because I know you 151 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 2: did mention. 152 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 4: That she was working for the Peace Corps. 153 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 2: But I still don't understand why the sinking around. 154 00:07:55,480 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 3: So it's pretty sensitive information, Like she didn't I ever 155 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 3: want to say what she's doing over there, and so 156 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 3: she wanted to meet me in person, and I suspected 157 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 3: that she wanted to tell me something other than just 158 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 3: details about the job. I suspected maybe she felt something 159 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 3: for me, and I was right. She said that she 160 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 3: still loved me very much, and I was clear about 161 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 3: the fact that I love my wife, you Kim. Last 162 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 3: week we talked for some time and she told me this. 163 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 3: She wanted to tell me in person before she left 164 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 3: because there's a solid chance that she never would see 165 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 3: me again. She told you that she still loved you. 166 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 4: Great, she's just going to be working over there and 167 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 4: not coming back. Like, what are you saying? 168 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, because this is kind of intense, like it's I 169 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 5: don't know this said the time it's changed. 170 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 3: It is really intense. I mean the nature of her 171 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 3: work over there and just the location. It's like incredibly dangerous. 172 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 4: So there is a So of course. 173 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 5: You say that you love somebody if you think that 174 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 5: this is going to be the end, right, I don't understand, 175 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 5: But okay. 176 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 4: I understand that I do. 177 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 3: But she expressed feelings for me and we did have sex. 178 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: Oh wow, whoa. 179 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 3: Okay, I am really ashamed of it, and it was 180 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 3: a mutual choice to do it. I regret it. I 181 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 3: think in the moment it felt like I might never 182 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 3: see this person again. 183 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: Is that what you said you need to talk about 184 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: in the card? 185 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I've been planning to tell you today or 186 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 3: the next time we got a chance. I know we've 187 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 3: been in and out the last few days. I haven't 188 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 3: really called each other at a good time. 189 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 5: But I know I don't know a lot about the 190 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 5: Peace Corps. But is it normal for them to be 191 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 5: in places that are so dangerous that they're risking their 192 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 5: lives to this extreme? I thought sometimes or is this 193 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 5: her using this as a way to get to you 194 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 5: by saying that I'm not going to see you, because 195 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 5: that's also really disturbing. 196 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 2: I I kind of don't know what to say right now. 197 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 2: Obviously we need to talk in person. Yeah, I just 198 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 2: think I'm sorry that we went about it this way. 199 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm going to probably come home right now 200 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:40,599 Speaker 2: and we'll talk about this. 201 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 4: You're apologizing to him. 202 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 5: I told you that he slept with his exy mostly. 203 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 2: To you guys in the listener right now that Oh. 204 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: Don't apologize us, go handle your business. I mean, it's totally, totally, totally. 205 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: I'm glad you found out, even though it sounds like 206 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: Bob was going to tell you anyway, but you never know. 207 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sorry for a lot of reasons and a 208 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 3: lot of things, but I'm also sorry for you finding 209 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 3: out this way. 210 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 2: I'll be it. 211 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 3: I'll be at home, okay, all. 212 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 1: Right, Well, kim uh let us know if we can 213 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: help in any way. 214 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you guys, thanks for having me on the show. 215 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 3: I appreciate it. 216 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 4: I'm sorry for all of the things. Good luck, Thank you. 217 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 2: The Juble Shows To Catch a Cheater