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Speaker 1: over at Betting Pros. Gentlemen, let's kick things off. Scott Bogman.

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Speaker 1: I know it's been a tough start to the year

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Speaker 1: for you, with your Texas Longhorns falling a little short.

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Speaker 1: But that's okay. We're gonna make it better for you

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Speaker 1: in week eighteen. So let's start here on the good foot.

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Speaker 1: What are you have of the people?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look, the cooler has arrived. All right, I'm here.

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Speaker 2: I'm ready to tell you guys.

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Speaker 1: What's the other cooler company?

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Speaker 2: Coleman, you're the Coleman of Betting Prosa Yetti. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: with the.

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Speaker 1: Hair, maybe that's the better one.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna take the Raiders by two and a half. First, Denver.

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Speaker 3: This one's pretty easy to me. The Broncos don't have

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Speaker 3: anything to play for. They're eliminated, but I'll give them credit.

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Speaker 3: They beat up LA last week. But if DeVante Adams

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Speaker 3: is right and the whole rate locker room wants Antonio

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Speaker 3: Piers to have this head coach role permanently, they're going

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Speaker 3: to have to play very hard. And I'm not saying

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Speaker 3: best effort, and the Raiders' best effort has been winning

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Speaker 3: them games under Antonio Piers. They're currently they're four and four,

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Speaker 3: So this game, if they want it, will push Antonio

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Speaker 3: a team that is looking for a head coach. So

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Speaker 3: I think the locker room likes Antonio Piers. I think

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Speaker 3: It's at home for them as well, So I think

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Speaker 3: it's gonna be a close game because Denver has been

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Speaker 3: to be an over five hundred team as well.

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Speaker 3: If they win so divisional game, you're gonna get both

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Speaker 1: Makes a lot of sense to me on zamir Wife

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Speaker 1: for this game. I know Jacobs is a game time decision,

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Speaker 1: but that typically does not go well. It's the last

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Speaker 1: to your picks. So let's start here with your favorite

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Speaker 4: Once? Shame on you? For me twice, shame on me.

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Speaker 5: I'm not falling for this Colts Texans flipping of who's

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Speaker 5: did I miss out on some Texas you know plus

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Speaker 4: Value trophies that don't help you whatsoever.

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Speaker 5: So for me, I'm going with the Houston Texans here

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Speaker 5: want to bet on TJ's Stroud, But yes, he's playing

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Speaker 1: You know, it is tough because it is a road game,

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Speaker 1: many times have we said on the show ericson that

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Speaker 1: You're in on something that I'm in on already, and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, last month, the Eagles, they let me down last week.

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm again the revenge bet.

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Speaker 1: Is that what this is?

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Speaker 2: You know what it kind of is.

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Speaker 3: But I'm gonna take the Giants plus five and a half.

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Speaker 3: The Eagles have already clinched. They haven't covered in five

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Speaker 3: They covered the last two weeks in a row divisional game.

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Speaker 3: Siriani has said resting starters is quote inconsideration. The eagles

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Speaker 2: Just give me the Giants. The Eagles are on a fade.

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Speaker 3: I think they're probably going to be a first round

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Speaker 3: Terrible and a lot of Sirianni hate going around in

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Speaker 1: They were saying they haven't won a games since Syrianne

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Speaker 1: Well, you know it's funny. We had Joe Lisi on

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Speaker 1: Whoever loss of the Super Bowl is probably going to be,

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Speaker 5: Eight team the Saints and Falcons being an underwhelming game

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Speaker 5: the Panthers and Buccaneers played it tight when these teams

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Speaker 5: not be surprised that the Falcons win this game outright,

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Speaker 5: a very high number of Saints are two and five

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Speaker 5: So I'm trying to figure where this forty two and

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Speaker 5: So under forty two and a half on two of

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Speaker 1: ENTFL season, the NFC South once again disappointing. No matter what,

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Speaker 2: I think so.

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Speaker 5: Dennis Allen is gone. That's what I'll say, yeah, because

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Speaker 3: Like that, Dennis Allence is not a good coach, and yeah,

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Speaker 2: They need a new quarterback. Obviously that's not helping Arthur.

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Speaker 1: So that's the biggest thing. You need a quarterback. I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Devin Riders is definitely going to be great. And

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Speaker 1: We don't want we don't want Jakobe Brussett, who sat

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Speaker 1: I don't know why these guys don't get more opportunities

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Speaker 2: But anyway, I'll bother. We got to see what Jaron

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we've gotta we gotta evaluate that. Let's make sure

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Speaker 2: What is it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna take Detroit minus three and a half first.

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Speaker 3: win this game. So, like I said, I like Detroit

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Speaker 3: the points. I like the over in this game as

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Speaker 3: well with Nick Mullins in there. Nick Mullins provides points

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Speaker 2: So I like Detroit minus the points a little bit more.

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Speaker 2: It's three and a half. But I like the over

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Speaker 1: Yeah makes sense to me. Box really does. And like

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Speaker 1: Dan Campbell deserves a lot of credit. I always made

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Speaker 1: a lot of jokes over the years about Dan Campbell's

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Speaker 1: making fun of. I think it is. But you know what,

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Speaker 1: It has his deficits. I don't know how they're gonna

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Speaker 1: curious to see how they perform there. But what they've

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Speaker 3: And credit When it was the last time the Lions

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Speaker 1: God, I mean, it seems like my childhood, Like you gotta,

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Speaker 2: The before the Ravens existed.

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Speaker 1: Well, we know that the Belichick to buy here, Belichick

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Speaker 1: like ninety three, ninety four, somewhere in that look.

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Speaker 2: At Ericson probably wasn't born, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Ericson, you were not born in ninety three. No, No,

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Speaker 4: Have going to the Browns Bengals game?

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Speaker 5: And I love the over here at thirty seven and

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Speaker 5: So again, I don't care who they're playing on defense.

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Speaker 5: I don't kept playing backups and it doesn't matter to

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Speaker 4: They're probably gonna play worse on defense.

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Speaker 5: And we've heard of from the Bengals team that yes,

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Speaker 5: they're not playing for anything, but they want to end

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Speaker 5: It's our chase has been vocal. I'm gonna play in

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Speaker 5: Looking at the Bengals and their trends heading into this contest,

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Speaker 5: So I was so surprised. I kind of handicapped this

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Speaker 4: It's also a revenge game for mister Driscoll facing.

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Speaker 1: His old Geam Driscoll. Revenge game. I mean, this is

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Speaker 2: Point.

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Speaker 5: He's a scramley quarterback. He can make he can make

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Speaker 1: Speaking of the Browns and lines, that conversation Boggs I

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Speaker 1: what lives in this brag.

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Speaker 2: That's Scott Mitchell. You see the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it was Scott Mitchell. It was yeah. That look. Man,

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Speaker 1: if you never saw Barry Sanders play, go watch, go

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Speaker 1: watch the highlights. Match it with special times. You want

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Speaker 1: to talk about yards after contact, It's like yards after contact,

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Speaker 3: I mean the best Barry Sanders, that would probably be

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Speaker 1: You know, Brown's ninety four. We're talking testa Verdi like

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Speaker 1: you with another pick for week eighteen.

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Speaker 4: What do you have?

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Speaker 2: I'm going to take the over in Chicago, ver screen Bay.

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Speaker 3: It's forty three and a half way back in week one,

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Speaker 3: this game scored fifty eight points. The Packers are getting

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Speaker 3: going to see the Bears best effort in this game

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Speaker 3: I don't know who wins, but I do think there's

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Speaker 2: We're gonna get the wintery mix. I love gold and

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Speaker 2: all that stuff. Nothing bad in this game from what

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Speaker 1: There was a split decision on two as they show

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Speaker 1: and Sam has the utmost confidence in the Packers to win.

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Speaker 4: Game, Yeah, Bears are gonna win. Bears money line, that.

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Speaker 5: Zero bet Bears money line because the Greenmit Packers are

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Speaker 5: they don't win, They lose, they don't deliver. Whereas the Bears,

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Speaker 5: if you're giving me a three point spread with Chicago

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Speaker 5: six starts. They've been delivering every single week. The defense

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Speaker 5: what do they do lading against the Troit Lions against

435
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Speaker 5: the rival team? What are they gonna do again this year?

436
00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,440
Speaker 5: Lay an egg against the Chicago Bears. So I'm going

437
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Speaker 5: with the Bears.

438
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Speaker 1: I love it, and that is your official pick. By

439
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Speaker 1: the way, too, I didn't even realize that I kind

440
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Speaker 1: of led you in just because I was curious and

441
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Speaker 1: look at where curiosity got me finally somewhere good for

442
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Speaker 1: a change. Ericson great stuff there on this game question

443
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Speaker 1: for you. A follow up is Justin Fields, the guy

444
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Speaker 1: going forward to Chicago.

445
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Speaker 5: You think, Man, I feel like I think about this

446
00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:57,920
Speaker 5: like way too much for somebody else.

447
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Speaker 1: Know, what do you think about more this or the

448
00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:02,720
Speaker 1: Roman Empire?

449
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Speaker 4: Like?

450
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Speaker 1: That's that's the questions question.

451
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Speaker 4: They tried to rope me into it before. About the

452
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Speaker 4: Roman Empire. I don't know.

453
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Speaker 1: Maybe the aqueducts, it's an amazing system.

454
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Speaker 5: But when it comes to Justin Fields, I think it

455
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Speaker 5: really depends. I think the Bears can really look at it,

456
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Speaker 5: and I think it really depends on what they can

457
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Speaker 5: get for him. If they feel like they can get

458
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Speaker 5: enough of a haul for him, I think it does

459
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Speaker 5: make sense to trade him, And what can.

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Speaker 3: They get for the number one too, if they can

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Speaker 3: get something better than what they got from Carolina.

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Speaker 5: Exactly, But I want to if they don't get a

463
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Speaker 5: price that's what they think is worthy of Justin Fields,

464
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Speaker 5: then they should keep him.

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Speaker 1: You're starting over again a quarterback and a rookie quarterback,

466
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Speaker 1: and you got to groom them, and it just seems

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Speaker 1: I don't know, man, it just seems like you're just

468
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Speaker 1: always in development. Hell, it's like having a project at

469
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Speaker 1: Netflix that never gets off.

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Speaker 5: The stereo two where you could see if they end

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Speaker 5: up trade him, it could end up being like a

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Speaker 5: win win like.

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Speaker 4: It's not to say, because.

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Speaker 2: Every move the Bears do is a win win.

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Speaker 5: So good scenario where Fields goes to a team and

476
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Speaker 5: is just better than he would be off in Chicago, And.

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Speaker 1: That might be the case. I'm not worried about Fields.

478
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Speaker 1: I'm worried about the Bears making the wrong decision and

479
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Speaker 1: going setting themselves back again. And as you said, since

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Speaker 1: Fields come back, things have gotten better. Defense is played well,

481
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Speaker 1: He's played well. Maybe Roshaw next year takes the ball

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Speaker 1: runs with it literally and all of a sudden the

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Speaker 1: Bears are in a good position there have a good

484
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Speaker 1: draftic at the top of like you give him DJ

485
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Speaker 1: Moore and and Marvin Harrison Junior. We like, that's a

486
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Speaker 1: good start. Last time I checked, all right, one more

487
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Speaker 1: for the boys before we close things out here, Bogs,

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Speaker 1: this is my least favorite game of the weekend, So

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Speaker 1: let's talk about it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna take the Patriots minus one and a half.

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Speaker 3: Here is my analysis. They won't let Bill Belichick lose

492
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Speaker 3: this game.

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Speaker 2: There you go.

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Speaker 1: I think he's I keep telling Eric's that I told

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Speaker 1: him this last week. I said, this is the lion

496
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Speaker 1: king circle of life moment where you can go out

497
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Speaker 1: with the whimper. You go out at home with a

498
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Speaker 1: loss to the Jets and they say, see a Bill

499
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Speaker 1: Like that is that. I can't think of a better,

500
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Speaker 1: slash worse way to end the run of Bill Belichick

501
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Speaker 1: in New England. And it makes me sad at the

502
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Speaker 1: same time as it does make me pleased for the future.

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Speaker 1: But I mean it is rough, dude.

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Speaker 3: Well, I can't hold him out of the ring of

505
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Speaker 3: Honor forever like they did with Jimmy Johnson in Dallas,

506
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Speaker 3: because Bill Belichick's already old.

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Speaker 2: So that's you know.

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Speaker 3: They we can't have animosity here. Look, I just think

509
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Speaker 3: Belichick is gonna want to leave with a win. I

510
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Speaker 3: don't think it's gonna be hard to coach up against

511
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Speaker 3: the Jets with whoever the quarterback is here?

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Speaker 1: Who is it today?

513
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Speaker 2: I kind of it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 3: It's it's simy and it's gonna be yes. I think

515
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Speaker 3: the defense wins this game for the Patriots. I think

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Speaker 3: it's low scoring. I do think it's gonna be gross,

517
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Speaker 3: but I think Belichick goes out a winner. So give

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Speaker 3: me the Pats minus one and a half against the Jets.

519
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Speaker 3: I just the history of this rivalry with Bill Belichick

520
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,399
Speaker 3: has not been good for the Jets. So give me

521
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Speaker 3: the Pats one last time to beat the Jets before

522
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Speaker 3: Belichick is on his way out.

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Speaker 1: Here you go. Where is Bill Belichick next year? Scott Bogwin? Hmm?

524
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Speaker 1: Is he Washington?

525
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Speaker 2: New Orleans?

526
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Speaker 1: New Orleans?

527
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Speaker 4: Interests Chargers are a.

528
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Speaker 3: Good one, But I don't know if the coach is

529
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Speaker 3: gonna want the Chargers job.

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Speaker 1: Does every Does every organization want Bill Belichick? I think

531
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Speaker 1: is the bigger question.

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Speaker 3: No, but one that's dumb enough to have Dennis Allen

533
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Speaker 3: right now probably.

534
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Speaker 6: Does to.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's go on to your last pick. This

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Speaker 1: is a big game, this is the one we're all

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Speaker 1: waiting for ericson Sunday Night Football, So let's get after it.

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Speaker 5: I'm going with the Buffalo Bills minus three, and I

539
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Speaker 5: really don't think it's gonna be close. I think that

540
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Speaker 5: this is actually giving not enough respect to the Buffalo Bills,

541
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Speaker 5: who have been I just think a team that kind

542
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 5: of like the opposite of the Eagles, where the Eagles

543
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 5: record was oh my god, like they're so good, but

544
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 5: it's like they're really not that good, whereas the Bills

545
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,959
Speaker 5: the opposite and it's like the record's not good, but

546
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 5: all indications are there way better than their actual record shows.

547
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 4: At ten and six.

548
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,160
Speaker 5: Go talked about them being one of the most unlucky teams,

549
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 5: even in that game against the Eagles, like they got

550
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 5: really unlucky. They should have won that game out right,

551
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,360
Speaker 5: but they lost in overtime. And that was the one

552
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,880
Speaker 5: game that the Eagles covered. That's Box had mentioned in

553
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Speaker 5: that analysis of the Eagles and Giants game. So for me, look,

554
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 5: the Dolphins m all year. Can't beat good teams every

555
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 5: single week, can't beat the good teams on the beat

556
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 5: was Dallas on the road, who's arkably not a good team.

557
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,399
Speaker 5: They don't play in Dallas, and they won on the

558
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 5: last second field goal. So for me, I get that

559
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 5: the spread is this way because the Dolphins are playing

560
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,920
Speaker 5: at home, where they theoretically play better. But when you

561
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Speaker 5: look at all the opponents that they've played, they played

562
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Speaker 5: one playoff team at home, and that was Dallas. Every

563
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,399
Speaker 5: other team they've played at home when they've put up

564
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,640
Speaker 5: big numbers and put up big points, has been a

565
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 5: sub five hundred team. So they're playing the Buffalo Bills,

566
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Speaker 5: who have already destroyed the Miami Dolphins this year. We

567
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 5: sell miam Dolphins get destroyed last week by the Ravens

568
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 5: because they're a good team, and I think that's just

569
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 5: going to continue here, just looking out the way that

570
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,199
Speaker 5: Miami's has not been able to show up as an

571
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Speaker 5: underdog this season against the spread, one in three overall.

572
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:18,879
Speaker 5: So I'm taking the Bills, and I think that they

573
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 5: dominate this game and roll into the playoffs with some momentum.

574
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Speaker 1: I agree, I'm on the Bills.

575
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,679
Speaker 3: You two Bogs, well, look, I think one thing you

576
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 3: guys are absolutely forgetting about here is Steelers devil magic,

577
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 3: like when Jacksonville has no chance to beat Indy and

578
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 3: then they beat Indy, right, or Indy has no chance

579
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 3: to be Jacksville and they beat jackson Remember I can't

580
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 3: remember what it was a couple of years ago. But

581
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 3: the Steelers need the Dolphins to win this game, so

582
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,919
Speaker 3: they got to beat Baltimore first on Saturday. So if

583
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,679
Speaker 3: that doesn't happen, then it doesn't matter. And yes, the

584
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 3: Bill's cruise to a victory. But Steelers devil magic to

585
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,120
Speaker 3: sneak into the playoffs under Mike Tomlin so I can

586
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Speaker 3: watch them lose by seventy to the Dolphins the next week.

587
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 2: Is what we're gonna see here.

588
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 3: So is it somehow, for no logical reason at all,

589
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 3: Josh Allen's gonna throw the ball downfield and it's gonna

590
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 3: be picked or there's gonna be some stupid fumble and

591
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 3: the Steelers are gonna sneak in the playoffs to every

592
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 3: single non Steelers fans aggravation to have to see them

593
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 3: in the playoffs one more time to get whooped by

594
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 3: thirty by the Dolphins in Miami the following week. So

595
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Speaker 3: I think that's the thing that you're forgetting here, and

596
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 3: obviously it's the Steelers.

597
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 4: That your way too into the weeds of the Steelers

598
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 4: devil Magic. It's gonna.

599
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 1: Between the Steelers and the Diamondbacks falling short. And then look,

600
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Speaker 1: I just.

601
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,199
Speaker 3: Know how I can get the most disappointment out of

602
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,239
Speaker 3: this team, and it's by making the playoffs and then

603
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 3: getting clouts.

604
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 4: Sure it's not.

605
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Speaker 5: I think just losing to the Ravens of Tyler Hutley

606
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,159
Speaker 5: is probably the most disappointing way actually to lose the season.

607
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:48,159
Speaker 2: No, it's not.

608
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 3: It's to get me excited for another week and then

609
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,679
Speaker 3: to be absolutely destroyed for three hours on television.

610
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 2: That's that's the worst way to go out to me.

611
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Speaker 2: So I can't wait.

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Speaker 1: I told you so. Next week on it I will

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Speaker 1: forward to what it does happen. I'm here for it now.

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Speaker 1: Just to recap what everyone's in on. Erickson's in on

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Speaker 1: the Bills at minus three, the Bears money line, the

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Speaker 1: Sincy Cleveland Battle of Ohio over thirty seven and a half,

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Speaker 1: the under forty two and a half in Atlanta, New Orleans.

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Speaker 1: Boggs is in excuse me, and the Texans minus one.

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Speaker 1: Don't forget the Texans. Boggs is in on the New

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Speaker 1: England Patriots minus one and a half, the over in

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Speaker 1: Green Bay, Chicago, Detroit three and a half versus Minnesota,

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Speaker 1: the Giants plus five and a half versus Philly and

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