WEBVTT - What is a quantum eraser?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, Jorhan, Daniel here, and we want to tell you

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<v Speaker 1>We talk about your questions, we give some answers, we

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<v Speaker 1>make a bunch of silly jokes as usual, and we

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<v Speaker 1>tackle all kinds of questions, including what happens if I

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<v Speaker 1>fall into a black hole? Or is there another version

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<v Speaker 1>of you out there that's right? Like usual, we tackle

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<v Speaker 1>them on the podcast. Daniel, do you ever feel like

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<v Speaker 1>you really understand quantum mechanics. No, you know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's probably just too alien for us to really ever

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<v Speaker 1>feel comfortable with. I guess it's too bad there aren't

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<v Speaker 1>any macroscopic big quantum optics we can really like poke

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<v Speaker 1>and play with, I know, like a big fat electron.

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<v Speaker 1>But actually I'm working on a theory that children are

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<v Speaker 1>governed by the rules of quantum mechanics. Oh really, like

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<v Speaker 1>there's uncertainty about where they are. Have you lost your kids? No,

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<v Speaker 1>but I've noticed that you can't like observe your children

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<v Speaker 1>without sort of perturbing the system, right, I think I

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<v Speaker 1>know what you mean. Like they won't do their homework

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<v Speaker 1>unless you're there watching exactly. And when I walk into

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<v Speaker 1>the room somehow all their conversations collapse suddenly into silence. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like sure the anger as children, they're both excited

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<v Speaker 1>and sad to see you. Hi am for Handmad cartoonists

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<v Speaker 1>and the creator of PhD comics. Hi. I'm Daniel. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a particle physicist and a professor UC Irvine, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>always in many quantum states at once. Really, so that

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<v Speaker 1>does that mean you're not real? It means I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even know if I'm real man. Well, I hope you are,

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<v Speaker 1>because that would mean that I'm talking to myself right now,

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<v Speaker 1>and that would be a little concerning. Maybe you are

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<v Speaker 1>the only brain in the universe and the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>the universe is just part of your mind. That would

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<v Speaker 1>make a lot of sense why I'm so successful and

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<v Speaker 1>good looking. But anyways, welcome to our podcast. Daniel and

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<v Speaker 1>Jorge explain the university production of I Heart Radio, in

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<v Speaker 1>which we do try to explode our minds out to

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<v Speaker 1>capture the entire universe. We want to take this vast, glittering, crazy, violent,

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<v Speaker 1>wild and white cosmos and wrap it all up inside

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<v Speaker 1>our brains. It's not enough for us to just live

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<v Speaker 1>in this universe to experience it and to see it.

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<v Speaker 1>We want to understand it. We want download the whole

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<v Speaker 1>thing into our minds, and that means understanding the basic

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<v Speaker 1>rules about how it works, what's really going on with

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<v Speaker 1>tiny little particles or whatever is happening at the smallest scale.

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<v Speaker 1>On this podcast, we dive the deepest you can into

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<v Speaker 1>the hardest and trickiest of questions and we try to

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<v Speaker 1>explain all of them to you. Yeah, because it is

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty tricky universe. It's full of interesting rules and

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<v Speaker 1>interesting phenomena that happens at the smallest of levels and

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<v Speaker 1>at the largest of scales, and a lot of it

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<v Speaker 1>is understandable, even if it's not very um intuitive to

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<v Speaker 1>think about. That's right. And I look at the universe

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<v Speaker 1>like a big puzzle. It's like a detective novel or

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<v Speaker 1>a murder mystery, and I want to figure out who

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<v Speaker 1>did it. I want to understand how it works. It's

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<v Speaker 1>amazing to me, sort of philosophically, that the universe is

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<v Speaker 1>presented to us that way, like this big puzzle that

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<v Speaker 1>isn't obvious to figure out, but yet can somehow be

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<v Speaker 1>understood if you push hard enough. Do you think the

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<v Speaker 1>universe is understandable? Daniel? That's a big question in physics,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it. It's a big question in the philosophy of

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<v Speaker 1>physics x and And my answer is it doesn't make

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<v Speaker 1>sense for it to be understandable, Like how could it

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<v Speaker 1>be possible that the complexities of this maybe infinite universe

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<v Speaker 1>could be stored in the minds of a human. On

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<v Speaker 1>the other hand, we have all these theories that work

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<v Speaker 1>really well, like surprisingly well, and so I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how to hold those two ideas. In my mind, they're

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<v Speaker 1>in quantum conflict. You're both confused and feeling smart at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time. That's what this podcast is all about.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the confused quantum state and you are the feeling smart.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. And all scientists sort of hold those two

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<v Speaker 1>feelings in their mind at once, like, look at all

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<v Speaker 1>we have understood, and yet look at all that we

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<v Speaker 1>do not, And that's both exciting and terrifying. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>we have a lot of questions about the universe. And

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, speaking of questions, we have a new

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<v Speaker 1>book coming out pretty soon in on November two. That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Jorge and I celebrate asking questions about the universe, and

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<v Speaker 1>we love thinking about these questions. We love hearing about

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<v Speaker 1>your questions about the universe. So we wrote a book

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<v Speaker 1>that wraps up the most frequently asked questions that we

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<v Speaker 1>get about the universe. Yeah. So, if you like this

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<v Speaker 1>podcast and you want to support us, please check it out.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called Frequently Ask Questions about the Universe and it's

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<v Speaker 1>on a pre order right now. You can order it

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<v Speaker 1>And I think you know what's important is that we

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<v Speaker 1>kind of didn't quite write it for our listeners, right, Daniel.

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<v Speaker 1>We kind of wrote it for the people that know

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<v Speaker 1>our listeners. You know, if you ever have like a

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<v Speaker 1>nephew or a cousin or an uncle who you want

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<v Speaker 1>to share this amazing information about the universe, I think

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<v Speaker 1>this is the book for you or for them, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>So every one of you out there, you should buy

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<v Speaker 1>family so that they can understand the answers to questions

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<v Speaker 1>like where did the universe come from? Or how can

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<v Speaker 1>we travel to the stars. Yeah, we tackle all kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of pretty cool questions in it, and we try to

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<v Speaker 1>answer it for people like your relatives and friends with

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<v Speaker 1>all kinds of interesting and clear answers. And also cartoons,

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<v Speaker 1>which is I think something you don't see in every

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<v Speaker 1>day in physics books. That's right. All these awesome fun

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<v Speaker 1>drawings that help clarify the topic and amuse you along

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<v Speaker 1>the way. That or added to this book. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you like this blend of physics and silly jokes, then

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<v Speaker 1>I think you'll enjoy this book. So go out and

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<v Speaker 1>get your copy. You can find it at universe f

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<v Speaker 1>a Q dot com all right, Well, speaking of questions,

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<v Speaker 1>we are tackling a question today and it has something

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<v Speaker 1>to do with quantum mechanics, which is, I guess, for

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<v Speaker 1>lack of a better technical term, bonkers. It is my

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<v Speaker 1>favorite kind of bonkers. It's the kind of bonkers that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't make sense to your mind. But the math works

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<v Speaker 1>perfectly and it keeps predicting absurd experimental conclusions that experimentalists

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<v Speaker 1>keep verifying. Yeah, because I guess you started with a

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<v Speaker 1>little nugget of an experiment, and then you worked out

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<v Speaker 1>some math, and then you find out that the crazy

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<v Speaker 1>math that it suggests is actually also true. Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 1>had to change the basic concept of what we thought

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<v Speaker 1>was going on at the very heart of the universe,

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<v Speaker 1>at the core of everything that's around me and you.

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<v Speaker 1>Even though it seems intuitive and like it follows rules

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<v Speaker 1>that we're familiar with from growing up, it turn turns

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<v Speaker 1>out that the tiniest little parts inside are following totally

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<v Speaker 1>different rules, which mean that the nature of reality is

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<v Speaker 1>quite different from the one that we thought it was.

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<v Speaker 1>And people work that out and they thought that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>And if it's true, it would mean you could do

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<v Speaker 1>this bonkers experiment, which would have this nonsense result, so

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<v Speaker 1>obviously it can't be true. And then business went out

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<v Speaker 1>and did the experiment and got the nonsense results, which

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<v Speaker 1>turns out to be the truth of our reality. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because I guess at the core of it, it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of weird for us humans to think of things that

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<v Speaker 1>are like two things at the same time, right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>not just in a conceptual ot but like actually in reality,

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<v Speaker 1>in quantum objects, things can be multiple things at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time. That's right, And that phrase in reality is

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<v Speaker 1>the key there, because we imagine at the very basic

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<v Speaker 1>level that there is a reality out there, that there's

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<v Speaker 1>a truth that even if we're not looking, the universe

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<v Speaker 1>is there and it's operating and it's following some rules

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<v Speaker 1>and it doesn't really matter if we are looking or not.

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<v Speaker 1>But the reality suggests that the universe is quite different

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<v Speaker 1>from that, that it does matter if you interact with it,

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<v Speaker 1>and that what is happening in the universe is not

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<v Speaker 1>exactly well determined until you interact with it. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>might say that in reality, the way the world works

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<v Speaker 1>and the universe works, it's kind of fuzzy, kind of

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<v Speaker 1>not quite as solid as we might think it is.

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<v Speaker 1>From our everyday lives. That's right. We have a weird

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<v Speaker 1>and particular view of this quantum universe. We are only

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<v Speaker 1>used to interacting with enormous quantum objects like baseballs and

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<v Speaker 1>rocks and trees, which are quantum objects. But they contain

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<v Speaker 1>like ten to the twenty six quantum objects. And when

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<v Speaker 1>you have that many, they do things differently than when

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<v Speaker 1>you have one or two of them isolated to reveal

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<v Speaker 1>their sort of true fundamental nature. So today we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be talking about some really crazy experiments that try to

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<v Speaker 1>reveal exactly what the rules are of how these particles

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<v Speaker 1>work at the smallest scale when they're left alone. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and so it turns out that also reality is not

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<v Speaker 1>just a little bit fuzzy, but it may not even

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<v Speaker 1>be as permanent as we think it is. Quantum in

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<v Speaker 1>for meation and quantum things. We think they're there for real,

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<v Speaker 1>but it turns out that maybe things can be taken

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<v Speaker 1>away from the universe. That's right. This fuzzy question of

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<v Speaker 1>what things are doing when you're not looking at them,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you look at them and then look away,

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<v Speaker 1>and it doesn't matter who's looking at them and how

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<v Speaker 1>they look at them, and whether they store the information

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<v Speaker 1>and look at it later. All these fun thought experiments

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<v Speaker 1>can help us try to understand what's really going on

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<v Speaker 1>at the smallest scales. So to be on the podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll be talking about what is a quantum eraser? Now, Daniel,

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<v Speaker 1>is this a rubber eraser or what is it made

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<v Speaker 1>out of? It's something which will erase your mind if

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<v Speaker 1>you think about it too much. It's kind of stretch

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<v Speaker 1>it out like a piece of rubber exactly, and push

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<v Speaker 1>it too hard and it might just snap. No. Quantum

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<v Speaker 1>eraser refers to the concept of quantum information and what

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<v Speaker 1>happens if you create information and then erase that information

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<v Speaker 1>from the universe. So it's an extension of some really

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<v Speaker 1>on experiments that listeners on this podcast have heard us

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<v Speaker 1>talk about, the double slit experiment, which reveals how particles

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<v Speaker 1>can interfere with themselves and have the chance to be

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<v Speaker 1>in multiple places at once. We dog into that experiment

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<v Speaker 1>with a fun conversation with Adam Becker, the author of

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<v Speaker 1>What Is Real, and today we're gonna go double down

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<v Speaker 1>on those experiments and think about even crazier versions. Yeah, so,

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<v Speaker 1>what is a quantum erasor now, Daniels this a thing

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<v Speaker 1>or like a concept. Yeah, it's both. It was first

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<v Speaker 1>a concept and then people made it a thing. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like that in quantum mechanics, a lot of people think, well,

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<v Speaker 1>if the universe really is that way, here's a ridiculous

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<v Speaker 1>scenario that should lead to a silly result. And then

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<v Speaker 1>physicists go out and they do the experiment. They make

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<v Speaker 1>it real. They figure out a way to like build

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<v Speaker 1>it in their lab to test that crazy property universe,

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<v Speaker 1>and they get these ridiculous results, which in the end

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<v Speaker 1>you have to accept because that's what the experiment says.

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<v Speaker 1>They say, the universe really works that way. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>Well we'll dig into it, we'll rub that quantum erazor

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<v Speaker 1>all of our brains and see there is anything left

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<v Speaker 1>at the end. But first we were wondering if how

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<v Speaker 1>many people out there had thought about this question or

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<v Speaker 1>even heard the term quantum eraser. So Daniel went out

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<v Speaker 1>there and ask people on the internet what they thought

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<v Speaker 1>a quantum eraser is. That's right. So if you'd like

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<v Speaker 1>to be a participant in our virtual person on the

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<v Speaker 1>street interviews and love to speculate about physics without looking

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<v Speaker 1>anything up, then please write to us two questions at

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel and Jorge dot com. All right, so think about

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<v Speaker 1>it for a second. If a random physicist came up

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<v Speaker 1>to you on the street and you didn't run away first,

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<v Speaker 1>and I actually listened to them, and they asked you,

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<v Speaker 1>what is a quantum eraser? What would you say? You

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<v Speaker 1>are people's answers something an angry physics grad student uses.

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<v Speaker 1>I have no idea. Maybe something that erases things at

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<v Speaker 1>random and like gets rid of things, because that's what

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<v Speaker 1>quantum generally is, is the randomness. Quantum araser could be

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<v Speaker 1>something that we invent in the future to erase quantum

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<v Speaker 1>mechanics and quantum physics just because pretty hard to understand.

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<v Speaker 1>If we don't have it around anymore, we don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to deal with it. We can stick with general relativity

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<v Speaker 1>and regular gravity. So yeah, just get rid of that stuff. Really,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know either if I were to compare a

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<v Speaker 1>quantum or race or to a regular racer, which essentially

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of distorts the little graphite particles and absorbs

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<v Speaker 1>them in in a way that you know, it gets

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<v Speaker 1>rid of the material on a piece of paper or something,

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<v Speaker 1>so that you know you can reuse that material to

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<v Speaker 1>write on something. Maybe a quantum race, or some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of force or phenomenon that causes sometime of particles to

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<v Speaker 1>break up from a given area or concentration, so that

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<v Speaker 1>the information is very very difficult to understand, or to

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<v Speaker 1>receive or to observe. Maybe well, I'm a teacher, and

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<v Speaker 1>I know that my students use a razors to hide

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<v Speaker 1>their mistakes, So I think a quantum e razor is

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<v Speaker 1>something that quantum physicists used to hide their errors from

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<v Speaker 1>everyone else. All I can come up with for that is,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes you make a mistake and it's for the better,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a better idea than what you originally planned. And

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes it's a big catastrophe. But since you don't know

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<v Speaker 1>ahead of time, you use your quantum eraser two either

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<v Speaker 1>undo your mistake or make it permanent, and you just

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<v Speaker 1>roll the dice and let fate decide. No idea. Never

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<v Speaker 1>heard of a quantum eracer, but the image of a really,

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<v Speaker 1>really kindy eraser pops into my mind. So let's say

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<v Speaker 1>a tool that allows you to change the sub potomic

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<v Speaker 1>structure of stuff. I would guess that a quantum eracer

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<v Speaker 1>is having to do with erasing particles that have certain

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<v Speaker 1>quantum states. Thereby leaving behind particles that are in the

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<v Speaker 1>state you want, uh that, or it's the weapon that

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<v Speaker 1>they used in the movie Racer with Arnold Schwarzenegger. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of fun answers here. Everyone's a comedian on

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<v Speaker 1>the internet. Well, especially if I have no idea what

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about, then they got to go to that

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<v Speaker 1>joking place. I like the joke about the really tiny eraser, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like if you have a quantum pencil, I guess it

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<v Speaker 1>would have a quantum eraser on the one end of it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>or e raises quantum particles or something like that. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>imagining a super tiny little vacuum cleaner that like slurps

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<v Speaker 1>up electrons. Yeah, and and those one with them passes

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<v Speaker 1>them through a wormhole into another universe. I guess, tantalizing.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, well, let's get into this concept of a

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<v Speaker 1>quantum erasor Daniel, you're saying it has something to do

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<v Speaker 1>with the double slit experiment. Now, this is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be kind of hard because I feel like this is

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<v Speaker 1>a podcast and it's an audio only and this is

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<v Speaker 1>a very kind of visual experiment. But I guess we

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<v Speaker 1>can try our best to describe what it is. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we can add a dance element to it. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you think that will help? Yeah? Or I could draw

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<v Speaker 1>our tunes. I'm doing watercolor painting at the same time

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<v Speaker 1>as we do our podcast. By the way, Oh really,

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<v Speaker 1>you're in a quantum artistic s am. Know. This quantum

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<v Speaker 1>er racer is an experiment that's like a permutation or

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<v Speaker 1>an add on to the basic double slit experiment. So

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<v Speaker 1>to understand why the quantum racer is so weird and crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>you definitely have to understand what's going on in the

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<v Speaker 1>double slit experiment. And so I think we're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to use our words to describe the wiggly crazy nature

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<v Speaker 1>of that experiment, and then we can build on it

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<v Speaker 1>to get to the quantumer racer. All right, So I

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<v Speaker 1>guess the double slicks experiment starts with a single slit first.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we'll explain that one, and then we'll multiply

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<v Speaker 1>by two. So the basic experiment is like you have

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<v Speaker 1>a wall, like a barrier, like a plate of metal,

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<v Speaker 1>and you cut a little slit on it, like a

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<v Speaker 1>little opening that's long in one direction, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>shoot like a laser or like just a regular beam

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<v Speaker 1>of light through it and then onto a wall behind

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<v Speaker 1>the first wall. Yeah, exactly. So imagine your mind some

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<v Speaker 1>source of light. A laser is good because then you

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<v Speaker 1>have photons of all the same wavelength in the same direction,

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<v Speaker 1>and then a screen on the other side with the

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<v Speaker 1>laser hits. What do you get. You get a laser spot. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>as you say, put something in between, like a barrier

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<v Speaker 1>that has a very thin slit in it. Then what

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<v Speaker 1>do you see on the screen Instead of the full

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<v Speaker 1>laser spot. Now you see like a slice of that spot.

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<v Speaker 1>You get a smooth pattern on the screen, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>sort of cut by the slit in the barrier, and

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<v Speaker 1>it has smooth edges, not a sharp edge, because that's

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<v Speaker 1>what happens when light goes through a slit, intends to

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<v Speaker 1>like spread out a little bit and smooth out. So

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<v Speaker 1>the thing you start with is this single slit where

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<v Speaker 1>the light goes through and hits the barrier on the

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<v Speaker 1>other side, right, and you get a smooth light pattern

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<v Speaker 1>on the other side. Now, the weird thing is in

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<v Speaker 1>what happens if you put a second slit next to

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<v Speaker 1>the first slip, right, that's right, So now you put

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<v Speaker 1>two slits really close together so that the beam could

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<v Speaker 1>pass through one slit or the other slit, and once

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<v Speaker 1>you get on the other side, instead of having like

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<v Speaker 1>two smooth patterns or you know, the simple addition of

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<v Speaker 1>two patterns like you saw before, now you get an

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<v Speaker 1>interference pattern, which means that you get these patterns of

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<v Speaker 1>light and dark and light and dark and light and dark.

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<v Speaker 1>And what's happening there is interference. Just like if you

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<v Speaker 1>have waves when you add them, if one wave is

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<v Speaker 1>going up while the other wave is going down, then

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<v Speaker 1>they cancel each other out. Whereas if one wave is

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<v Speaker 1>going up and the other one is going up at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, then they add up on top of

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<v Speaker 1>each other. They get twice as strong. So the interference

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<v Speaker 1>pattern has these slices that are twice as bright as

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<v Speaker 1>the previous pattern, and these dark slices as well. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's because you have two sources of light. Now each

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<v Speaker 1>of the slits is giving you photons and they can

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<v Speaker 1>either constructively or destructively interfere on the screen. Right because

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<v Speaker 1>I guess you're shooting a laser at both slits at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, or you're like shooting a laser and

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<v Speaker 1>it and the beam of the laser kind of goes

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<v Speaker 1>through both slits at the same time, right, Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>slits are very narrow and very very close together. This

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<v Speaker 1>only works if the scale we're talking about here is

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<v Speaker 1>sort of related to the wavelength of light that we're

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<v Speaker 1>shooting at it. So this needs to be very microscopic. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So if you have one slid, you get a fuzzy,

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<v Speaker 1>like a plain fuzzy image on the other side. But

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<v Speaker 1>if you have two slids, then suddenly it's not a smooth,

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<v Speaker 1>fuzzy image. It's like a weird Rippley kind of image,

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<v Speaker 1>which means at somehow light is interacting with itself. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>in this case, we don't know if the light is

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<v Speaker 1>interacting with itself. You could say, hey, look, light is

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<v Speaker 1>a wave, and waves interfere. This happens with waves in

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<v Speaker 1>the bathtub, it happens with waves in the air. Like

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<v Speaker 1>noise canceling headphones, right, they generate a second pattern of

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<v Speaker 1>noise to cancel out the noise that's coming into your ear.

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<v Speaker 1>So interference in waves is not necessarily a quantum mechanical thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just a wave thing. So in this version of

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<v Speaker 1>the experiment so far, you could just say, look, light's

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<v Speaker 1>a wave. It's interfering, No big whoop. It gets quantum

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<v Speaker 1>when you remember that the beam is actually made not

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<v Speaker 1>of waves but of photons, little individual packets, and so

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<v Speaker 1>you can take it to the next step by slowing

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<v Speaker 1>down the experiment and dimming the laser. So that's shooting

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<v Speaker 1>like one photon through the experiment at a time. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you shoot one photon at a time, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>would think that just throwing like one ft doon at

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<v Speaker 1>a time, this photon would pick like the right or

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<v Speaker 1>the left slid and then end up on the other

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<v Speaker 1>side of the wall and you would get the same

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<v Speaker 1>fuzzy smooth pattern. But the weird part I guess is

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<v Speaker 1>that you're shooting one ft at a time, but you

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<v Speaker 1>still get the ripley kind of interference pattern on the

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<v Speaker 1>other side. Exactly. You expect that if you shoot one

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<v Speaker 1>photon at a time that it can't interfere because you

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<v Speaker 1>were thinking, well, the interference comes from two photons going

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<v Speaker 1>through both slits at the same time. Now you have

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<v Speaker 1>just one photon in the experiment, so what's it interfering with?

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<v Speaker 1>Because you still see the interference pattern on the other

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<v Speaker 1>side of the screen and you shoot one photon through

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<v Speaker 1>at a time. It's just that it takes longer to

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<v Speaker 1>build up if you watch it for an hour or so.

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<v Speaker 1>As those photons go through, one lands here, one lands there,

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<v Speaker 1>one lands this other spot, it gradually builds up that

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<v Speaker 1>interference pattern. So what's it interfering with. It's interfering with itself.

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<v Speaker 1>It has the probability to go through both slits, and

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<v Speaker 1>that wave function, which controls where a quantum particle goes,

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<v Speaker 1>interferes with itself and creates this probability distribution on the

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<v Speaker 1>screen for where it might land, and that probability distribution

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<v Speaker 1>has the interference effects inside of it, and that's why

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<v Speaker 1>you get this interference pattern. Every photon that goes through

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<v Speaker 1>like randomly pulls a number from the probability distribution on

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<v Speaker 1>the screen which has the interference pattern built in, and

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<v Speaker 1>lands there, and gradually it builds up that distribution. It's

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<v Speaker 1>almost like, you know, if you were to shoot a

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<v Speaker 1>photon as a little ball, it would go through one

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<v Speaker 1>of the slids, but because it's quantum, it's almost like

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<v Speaker 1>it's going through both slits at the same time. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's kind of the quantum thing. It's going through

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<v Speaker 1>both slits. At the same time, and then it's sort

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<v Speaker 1>of going through both slits and then interacting with itself

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<v Speaker 1>in a quantum way so that when it gets to

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<v Speaker 1>the screen it's not a smooth pattern. Yeah, it's tempting

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<v Speaker 1>to say that it's in two places at once, or

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<v Speaker 1>that goes through both slits at the same time, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's our tendency to try to like tell a story

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<v Speaker 1>for what happens. But I'm not sure that's the right

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<v Speaker 1>way to think about it. The way I think about

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<v Speaker 1>it is that it has a probability to go through

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<v Speaker 1>both at once. What it actually does is not determined,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, until it gets to the other side. So

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<v Speaker 1>what happened when it went through the slits we don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>We might never know. There isn't necessarily a story there.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a all change in wording, but an important

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<v Speaker 1>change in meaning for me to say that it had

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<v Speaker 1>probability to go through both slits rather than it actually

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<v Speaker 1>went through both. Right, it's like saying that it's not

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<v Speaker 1>that the cat is alive and dead. It's just said

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<v Speaker 1>it has the same probability, where it has a certain

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<v Speaker 1>probability of being alive and a certain probability of being dead.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, then now the weird part here. Now

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to come when we try observing this photon,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's when we get into this idea of quantum razors.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's talk about that. But first let's take a

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<v Speaker 1>quick break. Alright, we're asking the question what is a

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<v Speaker 1>quantum erasor? And now Daniel feel like half of my

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<v Speaker 1>brain is already erased trying to talk about quantum objects.

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<v Speaker 1>And now we were explaining the double slit experiment, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I think we were done with that. Like if

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<v Speaker 1>you shoot a laser at a two small slits on

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<v Speaker 1>a screen, then on the other side you're gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>an interference parent because of the way the quantum probabilities

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<v Speaker 1>kind of affect each other. And so now the weird

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<v Speaker 1>thing happens when you try to like add a detector, right,

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<v Speaker 1>when you try to see which slid it actually went through.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, because our tendency is to want to know, like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what happened, Right, did it go through one slit or

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<v Speaker 1>did it go through the other. We feel like it

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<v Speaker 1>must have gone through one or the other, right, because

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<v Speaker 1>you know it was over here and then it's over there.

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<v Speaker 1>So it must go from here to there is our sense,

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<v Speaker 1>and so trying to get it like a more accurate

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<v Speaker 1>understanding of what happened. You can add a little detector

0:22:30.520 --> 0:22:33.240
<v Speaker 1>when that gives you a signal if a photon goes

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<v Speaker 1>through slit A, for example, instead of slit B. So

0:22:36.040 --> 0:22:37.800
<v Speaker 1>that way you can know, hey, did it go through

0:22:37.840 --> 0:22:41.040
<v Speaker 1>slit A or slip B. Because you know, photons are observable, right,

0:22:41.080 --> 0:22:43.320
<v Speaker 1>you can interact with them. They make splashes of light,

0:22:43.359 --> 0:22:45.439
<v Speaker 1>you can measure them. They are quantum objects, but they

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<v Speaker 1>are also physical. And so what happens when you do that,

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<v Speaker 1>when you ask, when you insist on knowing which slid

0:22:50.760 --> 0:22:54.320
<v Speaker 1>it went through, is that the interference pattern disappears. When

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<v Speaker 1>you add that detector that just tries to understand which

0:22:56.720 --> 0:22:59.600
<v Speaker 1>slid it went through, then the interference pattern is gone.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you try to like measure at the photon

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<v Speaker 1>as it goes through slid how would you even do that?

0:23:04.600 --> 0:23:06.440
<v Speaker 1>Don't you have to stop the photon to do that.

0:23:06.440 --> 0:23:08.920
<v Speaker 1>That's the crux of the matter right there. To measure

0:23:08.960 --> 0:23:12.399
<v Speaker 1>a photon, you have to interact with it somehow. You

0:23:12.440 --> 0:23:16.000
<v Speaker 1>can't just like observe a photon without interacting with it.

0:23:16.040 --> 0:23:18.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, a photon that like passes in front of you,

0:23:18.400 --> 0:23:21.119
<v Speaker 1>you can't see it. It's a piece of light, but

0:23:21.200 --> 0:23:23.960
<v Speaker 1>unless it hits your eyes, you can't see it, or

0:23:24.000 --> 0:23:26.840
<v Speaker 1>unless you put something in front of it to stop it,

0:23:27.119 --> 0:23:30.000
<v Speaker 1>measure it and then re emit it. Right, So, for example,

0:23:30.040 --> 0:23:31.800
<v Speaker 1>the reason you see something in front of you as

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<v Speaker 1>red is because the photons hit that object and then

0:23:34.680 --> 0:23:39.399
<v Speaker 1>emitted red photons. So you can't see things without interacting

0:23:39.400 --> 0:23:41.720
<v Speaker 1>with them, even light, right, you need to interact with

0:23:41.760 --> 0:23:44.199
<v Speaker 1>it somehow. So you can make up lots of different

0:23:44.200 --> 0:23:47.240
<v Speaker 1>physical systems that could do this, but the simplest one is,

0:23:47.280 --> 0:23:49.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, just like a simple photon detector, a photo

0:23:49.560 --> 0:23:53.360
<v Speaker 1>multiplier tube for example, or a scintilator screen that indicates

0:23:53.359 --> 0:23:55.480
<v Speaker 1>when a photon went through and then re emits it

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<v Speaker 1>on the other side. Oh, I see what you're saying,

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<v Speaker 1>Like if you catch it and then really sit back

0:24:00.440 --> 0:24:02.800
<v Speaker 1>on the other side, that's one way you can measure

0:24:02.840 --> 0:24:05.399
<v Speaker 1>the photon. And you'd like to think, oh, can't I

0:24:05.440 --> 0:24:07.800
<v Speaker 1>just take a peek? Can I just look and see

0:24:07.880 --> 0:24:10.959
<v Speaker 1>where it went without touching it, without interfering with it,

0:24:11.000 --> 0:24:13.440
<v Speaker 1>without messing with it in any way. But you can't

0:24:13.440 --> 0:24:15.880
<v Speaker 1>do that. Quantum mechanics tells us that the only way

0:24:15.880 --> 0:24:19.000
<v Speaker 1>to get information about an object is to interact with it.

0:24:19.280 --> 0:24:21.359
<v Speaker 1>You can like bounce a photon off of it, or

0:24:21.400 --> 0:24:23.119
<v Speaker 1>you can bounce an electron off of it, or you

0:24:23.119 --> 0:24:25.679
<v Speaker 1>can put another little screen, but somehow you have to

0:24:25.760 --> 0:24:28.840
<v Speaker 1>interact with it. You can't get information from that particle

0:24:29.119 --> 0:24:32.600
<v Speaker 1>without somehow interfering with its path. Yeah, because I guess

0:24:32.640 --> 0:24:35.000
<v Speaker 1>in our everyday lives were used to this idea of

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<v Speaker 1>being able to like see things but not touch them,

0:24:37.920 --> 0:24:40.359
<v Speaker 1>and so we think we can tell where something is

0:24:40.480 --> 0:24:43.639
<v Speaker 1>without actually like influencing it. But when you get down

0:24:43.680 --> 0:24:47.159
<v Speaker 1>to the smallest of levels, like all seeing is interacting

0:24:47.240 --> 0:24:48.879
<v Speaker 1>in a way, that's right, and it's also true with

0:24:48.960 --> 0:24:51.479
<v Speaker 1>the macroscopic scales, just that you don't notice it. Like

0:24:51.600 --> 0:24:53.920
<v Speaker 1>if you are walking outside at night and you want

0:24:53.920 --> 0:24:55.360
<v Speaker 1>to know, hey, is there a rock in my path?

0:24:55.480 --> 0:24:58.560
<v Speaker 1>You turn on your flashlight. You are shooting photons at

0:24:58.600 --> 0:25:01.320
<v Speaker 1>that rock. Those photons are hitting the rock, they're warming

0:25:01.400 --> 0:25:04.040
<v Speaker 1>up the rock. Then the rock is reflecting photons back

0:25:04.080 --> 0:25:06.600
<v Speaker 1>at you. So yeah, you're not touching the rock, but

0:25:06.640 --> 0:25:09.160
<v Speaker 1>you're definitely interacting with the rock and you're changing its

0:25:09.200 --> 0:25:11.800
<v Speaker 1>quantum state. It's just like it doesn't like really heat

0:25:11.880 --> 0:25:14.160
<v Speaker 1>up the rock or push the rock far away. When

0:25:14.280 --> 0:25:16.920
<v Speaker 1>these are quantum particles that they can have significant effects

0:25:17.160 --> 0:25:19.240
<v Speaker 1>if you interact with them by shooting beams of light

0:25:19.280 --> 0:25:21.280
<v Speaker 1>at them or other particles. All right, So then in

0:25:21.320 --> 0:25:24.439
<v Speaker 1>the double slit experiment, meant if you try to measure

0:25:24.440 --> 0:25:26.400
<v Speaker 1>these photons before they hit the wall in the bag,

0:25:26.880 --> 0:25:31.560
<v Speaker 1>then what you're doing is you're collapsing the quantum wave, right,

0:25:31.600 --> 0:25:34.520
<v Speaker 1>You're messing up the quantum information. Yeah, so here's where

0:25:34.520 --> 0:25:37.200
<v Speaker 1>the different interpretations of quantum mechanics. I'll tell you different

0:25:37.240 --> 0:25:40.119
<v Speaker 1>stories for what happens the experiments. Save you measure the

0:25:40.160 --> 0:25:43.919
<v Speaker 1>photon before or after the screen, that the interference pattern

0:25:43.960 --> 0:25:48.040
<v Speaker 1>goes away. The classical interpretation of quantum mechanics, the Copenhagen interpretation,

0:25:48.119 --> 0:25:50.840
<v Speaker 1>is what you just described. It says that the probability

0:25:50.880 --> 0:25:53.920
<v Speaker 1>to go through both slits only exists if you haven't

0:25:53.920 --> 0:25:56.040
<v Speaker 1>made a measurement. But then if you interact with it,

0:25:56.040 --> 0:25:58.600
<v Speaker 1>it collapses the wave function. Now it can only go

0:25:58.680 --> 0:26:01.200
<v Speaker 1>through one slit or the there so there's no interference

0:26:01.240 --> 0:26:04.639
<v Speaker 1>because the interference came from the ambiguity came from the

0:26:04.680 --> 0:26:07.760
<v Speaker 1>probabilities to go through both. The many worlds interpretation tells

0:26:07.760 --> 0:26:10.960
<v Speaker 1>a different story. It says collapse is nonsense, that doesn't happen,

0:26:11.000 --> 0:26:14.320
<v Speaker 1>it's ridiculous. It says that the universe splits into two,

0:26:14.400 --> 0:26:16.200
<v Speaker 1>one where the photon went through one slit and one

0:26:16.200 --> 0:26:17.919
<v Speaker 1>where the photon went through the other, and you're in

0:26:17.960 --> 0:26:20.239
<v Speaker 1>one of those universes and not the other. Right, So

0:26:20.280 --> 0:26:22.560
<v Speaker 1>that's those are the two ways in which you can

0:26:22.720 --> 0:26:25.480
<v Speaker 1>interpret what happens. So how does that relate to, like

0:26:25.520 --> 0:26:28.240
<v Speaker 1>the information and the quantum information. So the idea here

0:26:28.359 --> 0:26:31.160
<v Speaker 1>is that you have the information about whether it went

0:26:31.200 --> 0:26:34.560
<v Speaker 1>through slit A or slit B, and that's what destroys

0:26:34.600 --> 0:26:38.359
<v Speaker 1>the interference because you've made this measurement. Somehow it changes

0:26:38.400 --> 0:26:40.760
<v Speaker 1>the experiment. And you know, this is not something that

0:26:40.800 --> 0:26:43.800
<v Speaker 1>we understand very well, this whole concept of measurement and

0:26:43.880 --> 0:26:46.400
<v Speaker 1>quantum mechanics. And that was the topic of our episode

0:26:46.400 --> 0:26:48.840
<v Speaker 1>with Adam Becker, and then recently we did an episode

0:26:48.840 --> 0:26:51.000
<v Speaker 1>with Carlo Rovelli and he's got a whole new theory

0:26:51.080 --> 0:26:53.959
<v Speaker 1>for how to understand measurement and quantum mechanics. It's not

0:26:54.080 --> 0:26:57.440
<v Speaker 1>something that physics understands very well, how interacting with something

0:26:57.560 --> 0:27:00.159
<v Speaker 1>changes its way? Function, does it collapse it as it

0:27:00.200 --> 0:27:02.320
<v Speaker 1>split the universe? All of this kind of stuff. But

0:27:02.359 --> 0:27:05.720
<v Speaker 1>the key idea here is if you extract information about

0:27:05.760 --> 0:27:09.600
<v Speaker 1>which way the photon went, then there's no interference. Right,

0:27:09.680 --> 0:27:12.080
<v Speaker 1>you somehow get rid of the quantumness of it, Like

0:27:12.119 --> 0:27:14.920
<v Speaker 1>when when I poke something, it's no longer quantum if

0:27:14.920 --> 0:27:18.600
<v Speaker 1>you poke something with a classical object like a big detector, right,

0:27:18.920 --> 0:27:21.120
<v Speaker 1>that big detector can't be in two stays at once.

0:27:21.160 --> 0:27:23.000
<v Speaker 1>It can't be like well, yes I saw it and

0:27:23.080 --> 0:27:25.639
<v Speaker 1>no I didn't. It has to make a decision, and

0:27:25.720 --> 0:27:28.760
<v Speaker 1>so it decoheres, and you get this weird thing where

0:27:28.880 --> 0:27:31.359
<v Speaker 1>quantum object is interacting with the classical objects and so

0:27:31.400 --> 0:27:34.159
<v Speaker 1>now it has to like follow the classical rules. So

0:27:34.240 --> 0:27:36.879
<v Speaker 1>the quantum or racer is an attempt to get around that,

0:27:37.040 --> 0:27:39.199
<v Speaker 1>is to say, what if instead of poking it with

0:27:39.240 --> 0:27:42.280
<v Speaker 1>a big finger or a big classical detector, what if

0:27:42.320 --> 0:27:45.360
<v Speaker 1>we got this information but we somehow kept it quantum

0:27:45.400 --> 0:27:47.760
<v Speaker 1>at the same time. I see. So it's almost like

0:27:47.760 --> 0:27:49.880
<v Speaker 1>the cat in show Dingerous Box, Like before you open

0:27:49.920 --> 0:27:52.399
<v Speaker 1>the box, it's both alive and dead. The probability of

0:27:52.480 --> 0:27:54.680
<v Speaker 1>it being one or the other. And if you open

0:27:54.720 --> 0:27:56.840
<v Speaker 1>the box, that's the classical way of checking it out,

0:27:56.880 --> 0:27:58.800
<v Speaker 1>Like you open it and it's either alive or dead,

0:27:58.880 --> 0:28:01.720
<v Speaker 1>and and then you get it of the quantum probabilities.

0:28:01.960 --> 0:28:05.399
<v Speaker 1>You're saying, can I like somehow, you know, poke my

0:28:05.840 --> 0:28:10.280
<v Speaker 1>quantum finger into the box and measure but not kind

0:28:10.280 --> 0:28:14.000
<v Speaker 1>of destroy that superpocisition of being both alive and dead exactly?

0:28:14.040 --> 0:28:16.520
<v Speaker 1>The quantum or racer experiment tries to do that as well.

0:28:16.720 --> 0:28:19.720
<v Speaker 1>Let's try to get this information out, but not look

0:28:19.760 --> 0:28:23.359
<v Speaker 1>at it directly, not use like our classical objects, our eyeballs,

0:28:23.400 --> 0:28:27.439
<v Speaker 1>our brains, even our computers to access that information, so

0:28:27.480 --> 0:28:30.600
<v Speaker 1>we can stay in a quantum superposition, so we can

0:28:30.640 --> 0:28:34.159
<v Speaker 1>make a decision later about whether we want that information.

0:28:34.480 --> 0:28:36.439
<v Speaker 1>And here's where the mind bending stuff comes in. If

0:28:36.440 --> 0:28:39.000
<v Speaker 1>you can like extract that information about which way the

0:28:39.040 --> 0:28:41.880
<v Speaker 1>photon went, keep it in a quantum state by storing

0:28:41.920 --> 0:28:45.280
<v Speaker 1>it in some other entangled particles, then you can decide

0:28:45.680 --> 0:28:48.239
<v Speaker 1>after the photons I hit the screen whether or not

0:28:48.320 --> 0:28:50.280
<v Speaker 1>you want to know which way it went wait to

0:28:50.320 --> 0:28:52.239
<v Speaker 1>see it again. So the idea is you want to

0:28:52.280 --> 0:28:54.320
<v Speaker 1>know which way the photons went, right? Did they go

0:28:54.360 --> 0:28:56.800
<v Speaker 1>through slit air slip B. You know, if you add

0:28:56.840 --> 0:28:59.400
<v Speaker 1>a classical object like a big detector, you're going to

0:28:59.480 --> 0:29:02.760
<v Speaker 1>collapse the a function. So instead you add a quantum

0:29:02.760 --> 0:29:06.480
<v Speaker 1>detector one that can record this information, but maybe without

0:29:06.520 --> 0:29:09.280
<v Speaker 1>collapsing the state of the wave function. Somehow it gets

0:29:09.320 --> 0:29:12.120
<v Speaker 1>this information. But because it's a quantum object, it doesn't

0:29:12.200 --> 0:29:15.200
<v Speaker 1>trigger the collapse, right, So it can be like entangled

0:29:15.240 --> 0:29:18.040
<v Speaker 1>with the photon without like forcing the photon to deco

0:29:18.120 --> 0:29:20.640
<v Speaker 1>here completely. And so it's different from interacting with like

0:29:20.680 --> 0:29:22.520
<v Speaker 1>your big body or something. You interact with it like

0:29:22.560 --> 0:29:25.400
<v Speaker 1>with a single particle, and that stores the information about

0:29:25.440 --> 0:29:27.800
<v Speaker 1>which way the photon went, but you haven't looked at it.

0:29:27.840 --> 0:29:30.560
<v Speaker 1>You haven't collapsed that wave function yet. You let the

0:29:30.560 --> 0:29:33.440
<v Speaker 1>photon then go hit the screen, and then after the

0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:35.840
<v Speaker 1>photon has already hit the screen and decide where it's

0:29:35.840 --> 0:29:39.120
<v Speaker 1>going to land, then you access that quantum information. It's

0:29:39.120 --> 0:29:42.120
<v Speaker 1>called the delayed choice version, where you decide after the

0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:44.360
<v Speaker 1>photon has hit the screen whether or not you want

0:29:44.400 --> 0:29:46.440
<v Speaker 1>to know the information about which way it went. You're

0:29:46.440 --> 0:29:48.160
<v Speaker 1>saying that the photon did go through one of the

0:29:48.200 --> 0:29:50.640
<v Speaker 1>two slits, like once it hits the screen in the

0:29:50.640 --> 0:29:53.040
<v Speaker 1>bag then it sort of chooses a history of having

0:29:53.040 --> 0:29:54.960
<v Speaker 1>gone through the left or the right slit. That's right.

0:29:55.000 --> 0:29:57.520
<v Speaker 1>This is trying to like force the photon to make

0:29:57.600 --> 0:30:00.000
<v Speaker 1>its decision about whether or not to make an interfere

0:30:00.000 --> 0:30:03.800
<v Speaker 1>it's pattern before you decide whether you want to know

0:30:03.880 --> 0:30:06.120
<v Speaker 1>which that it went through. So it's sort of like,

0:30:06.160 --> 0:30:08.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, trying to play quantum bluff with the photon.

0:30:09.280 --> 0:30:11.479
<v Speaker 1>And that's when we get into these really funny questions

0:30:11.480 --> 0:30:14.320
<v Speaker 1>of like, how does the photon know whether it's going

0:30:14.360 --> 0:30:16.920
<v Speaker 1>to be measured? How does the photon know whether you're

0:30:16.920 --> 0:30:20.400
<v Speaker 1>going to have information about it. It's almost like you wanna,

0:30:20.680 --> 0:30:23.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, peek inside of the short Inger's box, but

0:30:23.280 --> 0:30:26.000
<v Speaker 1>not look at the answer, so that it's still alive

0:30:26.040 --> 0:30:27.800
<v Speaker 1>and dead inside the box. But you sort of have

0:30:27.920 --> 0:30:29.800
<v Speaker 1>the answer in your pocket, but you don't. You haven't

0:30:29.800 --> 0:30:32.360
<v Speaker 1>looked at the answer yet exactly. And so why is

0:30:32.360 --> 0:30:34.480
<v Speaker 1>that call it a quantum eraser? Right, So this is

0:30:34.520 --> 0:30:37.880
<v Speaker 1>not yet a quantum eraser. This is the delayed choice version,

0:30:38.000 --> 0:30:41.560
<v Speaker 1>the delayed measurement, Yes, exactly, delayed measurement choosing whether or

0:30:41.560 --> 0:30:43.640
<v Speaker 1>not you have the information, that's the delay. So you

0:30:43.720 --> 0:30:45.800
<v Speaker 1>might wonder, like, well, what happens on the screen. What

0:30:45.840 --> 0:30:47.920
<v Speaker 1>does the screen look like? What does the experiment look like?

0:30:47.960 --> 0:30:50.240
<v Speaker 1>If you do this, If you capture this information in

0:30:50.280 --> 0:30:52.720
<v Speaker 1>a quantum state, but you don't look at it yet, well,

0:30:52.760 --> 0:30:55.320
<v Speaker 1>what happens is you don't see interference on the screen

0:30:55.840 --> 0:30:58.800
<v Speaker 1>because by doing this, by slurping this information out of

0:30:58.840 --> 0:31:01.960
<v Speaker 1>the photons, you have stored the interference. But people think, well,

0:31:01.960 --> 0:31:04.760
<v Speaker 1>that's interesting. But I haven't yet looked at that information, right,

0:31:05.040 --> 0:31:08.640
<v Speaker 1>So what happens if I then erase that information? This

0:31:08.720 --> 0:31:11.880
<v Speaker 1>is where the quantum eracer comes in. If I take

0:31:11.920 --> 0:31:14.560
<v Speaker 1>that quantum information which is stored in these quantum objects,

0:31:14.560 --> 0:31:16.240
<v Speaker 1>but I haven't looked at it yet, if I erase

0:31:16.360 --> 0:31:20.080
<v Speaker 1>that information somehow, can I then recover the interference? Can

0:31:20.120 --> 0:31:23.520
<v Speaker 1>I make the interference pattern reappear on the screen by

0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:26.800
<v Speaker 1>adding this quantum eracer, which like deletes that information from

0:31:26.800 --> 0:31:28.760
<v Speaker 1>the universe because I never peeked at it. What are

0:31:28.760 --> 0:31:31.280
<v Speaker 1>you saying that this is an actual experiment, Like we've

0:31:31.320 --> 0:31:34.840
<v Speaker 1>sort of intercepted the photon before it goes into the slids,

0:31:34.920 --> 0:31:37.800
<v Speaker 1>and we've stored that information and we see that it

0:31:38.040 --> 0:31:42.040
<v Speaker 1>now it doesn't generate an interference pattern. A weekly pattern

0:31:42.160 --> 0:31:45.120
<v Speaker 1>on the screen, even though nobody really knows which slid

0:31:45.120 --> 0:31:47.080
<v Speaker 1>it went through. That's right, nobody knows which slid it

0:31:47.120 --> 0:31:49.719
<v Speaker 1>went through, though it is in principle stored in this

0:31:49.800 --> 0:31:52.840
<v Speaker 1>quantum object. Although that quantum object can be in a superposition,

0:31:52.840 --> 0:31:55.200
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't have to be in a definite state. Right.

0:31:55.240 --> 0:31:57.040
<v Speaker 1>You can say there's a probability of one and a

0:31:57.080 --> 0:32:00.000
<v Speaker 1>probability of the other, and we don't see that interference patterns.

0:32:00.000 --> 0:32:02.560
<v Speaker 1>And then people thought, well, what if we delete that information?

0:32:02.720 --> 0:32:05.560
<v Speaker 1>What would the universe do if we measure the photon

0:32:05.680 --> 0:32:07.520
<v Speaker 1>but don't look at it, keep in the quantum state,

0:32:07.600 --> 0:32:10.560
<v Speaker 1>and then erase that information. Can it somehow go back

0:32:10.600 --> 0:32:13.800
<v Speaker 1>and recover the interference pattern? I see you're saying that

0:32:13.920 --> 0:32:16.280
<v Speaker 1>maybe it's not the fact that it's interactive with your

0:32:16.320 --> 0:32:21.240
<v Speaker 1>little secret finger poking quantum poking that destroyed the interference pattern.

0:32:21.320 --> 0:32:23.800
<v Speaker 1>Maybe if I poke it with my quantum finger and

0:32:23.840 --> 0:32:27.000
<v Speaker 1>then I destroy my finger, will it go back to

0:32:27.040 --> 0:32:29.520
<v Speaker 1>being a quantum object? Does that what you mean? Like,

0:32:29.560 --> 0:32:31.000
<v Speaker 1>we know that if I poke it, even with a

0:32:31.040 --> 0:32:34.040
<v Speaker 1>quantum finger and not look at the answer, it destroys

0:32:34.040 --> 0:32:36.320
<v Speaker 1>the quantum information. But now what happens if I poke

0:32:36.360 --> 0:32:37.600
<v Speaker 1>it with a band of finger and then the story

0:32:37.640 --> 0:32:40.320
<v Speaker 1>to finger will go back to being a quantum object.

0:32:40.400 --> 0:32:42.520
<v Speaker 1>Is that kind of the idea, that's the quantum eraser

0:32:42.680 --> 0:32:45.760
<v Speaker 1>is destroying that quantum information you've extracted from the experiment

0:32:45.920 --> 0:32:48.440
<v Speaker 1>but haven't yet looked at, so it's still quantum. So

0:32:48.560 --> 0:32:50.560
<v Speaker 1>that's the crazy experiment. And I can hear you react

0:32:50.600 --> 0:32:52.760
<v Speaker 1>and say, what is that real experiment? Did we really

0:32:52.800 --> 0:32:55.720
<v Speaker 1>do that? And yes, we have really done this experiment.

0:32:55.880 --> 0:32:57.920
<v Speaker 1>We have done it with photons, and you can go

0:32:58.000 --> 0:33:00.040
<v Speaker 1>up and google and learn all about the details of

0:33:00.120 --> 0:33:02.760
<v Speaker 1>this experiment. I think there's a slightly simpler version that's

0:33:02.760 --> 0:33:05.880
<v Speaker 1>easier to talk about, where you use electrons. But the

0:33:05.920 --> 0:33:08.000
<v Speaker 1>principles are all the same. And so how can you

0:33:08.080 --> 0:33:11.840
<v Speaker 1>destroy quantum information? Well, for example, if when the photon

0:33:11.920 --> 0:33:14.600
<v Speaker 1>is passing through the slit, you have some detector, and

0:33:14.640 --> 0:33:17.360
<v Speaker 1>that detector takes an electron and puts it in like

0:33:17.400 --> 0:33:19.720
<v Speaker 1>a spin up state. If the photon went through one

0:33:19.760 --> 0:33:22.360
<v Speaker 1>slit and it's been downstate, if the photon went through

0:33:22.400 --> 0:33:24.800
<v Speaker 1>another slit. This is just a way to like store

0:33:24.880 --> 0:33:28.320
<v Speaker 1>that information about which way the photon went and keep

0:33:28.320 --> 0:33:30.240
<v Speaker 1>it quantum. Right, we don't want to mark it on

0:33:30.280 --> 0:33:32.160
<v Speaker 1>a piece of paper, or put it in a computer

0:33:32.280 --> 0:33:34.160
<v Speaker 1>or some big classical object. We want to keep it

0:33:34.160 --> 0:33:36.760
<v Speaker 1>as quantum information. So here the electron is just like

0:33:36.760 --> 0:33:39.920
<v Speaker 1>a single cube bit. It contains some quantum information. But

0:33:40.000 --> 0:33:41.880
<v Speaker 1>it can be in a super position. It can be

0:33:41.880 --> 0:33:43.600
<v Speaker 1>a little spin up and a little spin down. We

0:33:43.600 --> 0:33:45.560
<v Speaker 1>don't know yet, right, but I feel like you bumped

0:33:45.600 --> 0:33:48.200
<v Speaker 1>the photon right, Like the photon was going through the slip,

0:33:48.240 --> 0:33:50.440
<v Speaker 1>but you made a bump into this electron. And now

0:33:51.080 --> 0:33:54.120
<v Speaker 1>it feels like it's in now an impure experiment because

0:33:54.160 --> 0:33:56.400
<v Speaker 1>you bumped it right, not just in a quantum way,

0:33:56.440 --> 0:33:58.760
<v Speaker 1>but you did sort of. It's not maybe the same photon,

0:33:58.880 --> 0:34:00.560
<v Speaker 1>or it's not the same path as a photon who

0:34:00.560 --> 0:34:02.680
<v Speaker 1>didn't bump into an electron. That's right, And that's why

0:34:02.720 --> 0:34:05.120
<v Speaker 1>you no longer see the interference. Right, you add this

0:34:05.440 --> 0:34:08.279
<v Speaker 1>experiment where you're bumping it into the electron, it destroys

0:34:08.280 --> 0:34:11.040
<v Speaker 1>the interference pattern because that information is now stored in

0:34:11.120 --> 0:34:14.160
<v Speaker 1>the electron, so it can be extracted. The knowledge of

0:34:14.200 --> 0:34:16.840
<v Speaker 1>which way the photon went can be measured in the universe,

0:34:16.880 --> 0:34:19.840
<v Speaker 1>and so that destroys this interference pattern on the screen.

0:34:19.880 --> 0:34:22.000
<v Speaker 1>So you're right, it's a different experiment, right, Like the

0:34:22.360 --> 0:34:25.120
<v Speaker 1>quantumness went from being on the wall behind the screen

0:34:25.200 --> 0:34:28.279
<v Speaker 1>to now being in this electron you poked it with,

0:34:28.760 --> 0:34:30.520
<v Speaker 1>And now I guess the question is if I destroy

0:34:30.560 --> 0:34:33.439
<v Speaker 1>the information in that electron, do I get back my

0:34:34.040 --> 0:34:37.040
<v Speaker 1>weekly pattern on the screen. That's the idea. It's totally

0:34:37.040 --> 0:34:40.160
<v Speaker 1>mind bending and crazy what actually happens. I love it.

0:34:40.560 --> 0:34:43.320
<v Speaker 1>And so you take this electron and you might wonder like, well,

0:34:43.360 --> 0:34:45.760
<v Speaker 1>how do you destroy the information? How do you erase

0:34:45.880 --> 0:34:49.080
<v Speaker 1>the information? Well, it's actually not that hard to erase

0:34:49.160 --> 0:34:52.319
<v Speaker 1>quantum information. It happens all the time. Like if you,

0:34:52.400 --> 0:34:57.440
<v Speaker 1>for example, measure particles momentum, then that scrambles your knowledge

0:34:57.440 --> 0:35:00.160
<v Speaker 1>of the particle's position because the Heisberg uncertainty prints will

0:35:00.160 --> 0:35:02.600
<v Speaker 1>says you can't know both very very precisely. If you

0:35:02.600 --> 0:35:05.400
<v Speaker 1>have a particle, for example, you measure its position really precisely,

0:35:05.760 --> 0:35:08.759
<v Speaker 1>and then you measure its momentum, then you've erased the

0:35:08.840 --> 0:35:12.480
<v Speaker 1>quantum information about its position because you can't have both simultaneously.

0:35:13.080 --> 0:35:14.759
<v Speaker 1>So you can do certain things sort of similar to

0:35:14.800 --> 0:35:18.160
<v Speaker 1>this electron. You can't know an electron spin in one

0:35:18.200 --> 0:35:21.560
<v Speaker 1>direction and in another direction at the same time. So

0:35:21.600 --> 0:35:24.480
<v Speaker 1>if you want to erase the spin up and down information,

0:35:24.520 --> 0:35:26.480
<v Speaker 1>all you need to do is measure the spin of

0:35:26.480 --> 0:35:29.680
<v Speaker 1>the electron sort of left right, and that will scramble

0:35:30.040 --> 0:35:33.400
<v Speaker 1>the information about the electron spin up down. I plucked

0:35:33.440 --> 0:35:35.719
<v Speaker 1>the box with the cat with my quantum finger, and

0:35:35.760 --> 0:35:39.000
<v Speaker 1>now instead of running my finger through a filter, that

0:35:39.200 --> 0:35:43.040
<v Speaker 1>then kind of scrambles or filters out the information from

0:35:43.040 --> 0:35:45.600
<v Speaker 1>the cat. That's right. So now it's no longer possible

0:35:45.640 --> 0:35:48.680
<v Speaker 1>to know which state it was in. Was it's been

0:35:48.719 --> 0:35:50.560
<v Speaker 1>up or was it's been down. We don't know anymore.

0:35:50.600 --> 0:35:53.400
<v Speaker 1>And it's scrambled. It's not like the information existed and

0:35:53.440 --> 0:35:56.360
<v Speaker 1>we've overridden it. It was in a quantum superposition. It

0:35:56.400 --> 0:36:00.840
<v Speaker 1>was undetermined, and now the information about those probability is lost.

0:36:01.200 --> 0:36:04.520
<v Speaker 1>So that's the quantum eraser. It says, destroy the information

0:36:04.520 --> 0:36:07.000
<v Speaker 1>that you've extracted from this experiment. All right, So we

0:36:07.080 --> 0:36:09.719
<v Speaker 1>did the experiment, actually we poked it with something and

0:36:09.760 --> 0:36:13.160
<v Speaker 1>then we erased the information. And did they actually somebody

0:36:13.200 --> 0:36:15.680
<v Speaker 1>actually built this. Somebody actually built this, and they did it.

0:36:15.880 --> 0:36:18.680
<v Speaker 1>They did this experiment. And so there's a lot of

0:36:18.719 --> 0:36:21.040
<v Speaker 1>discussion of this kind of experiment online, and I find

0:36:21.040 --> 0:36:23.040
<v Speaker 1>a lot of these to be sort of misleading because

0:36:23.040 --> 0:36:26.319
<v Speaker 1>they suggest that what happens when you apply the quantum racer,

0:36:26.360 --> 0:36:28.840
<v Speaker 1>when you erase this experiment, is that the interference pattern

0:36:28.920 --> 0:36:32.360
<v Speaker 1>like reappears on the screen, which is impossible because you

0:36:32.360 --> 0:36:35.719
<v Speaker 1>could do this like quantum eraser experiment like years later,

0:36:36.120 --> 0:36:38.360
<v Speaker 1>after you've already done the original experiment. You know, you

0:36:38.360 --> 0:36:41.239
<v Speaker 1>could like store these electrons somehow and then five years

0:36:41.280 --> 0:36:43.879
<v Speaker 1>later decided to erase the information. You can't go back

0:36:43.920 --> 0:36:46.840
<v Speaker 1>in time and then change the interference pattern on the screen.

0:36:47.200 --> 0:36:49.160
<v Speaker 1>So that's not what happens. That would be crazy in

0:36:49.200 --> 0:36:52.439
<v Speaker 1>bonkers and awesome. But instead, what happens is that if

0:36:52.520 --> 0:36:55.359
<v Speaker 1>you do this, if you erase the quantum information, then

0:36:55.400 --> 0:36:58.000
<v Speaker 1>you are making a measurement of those electrons. You're measuring

0:36:58.040 --> 0:37:00.360
<v Speaker 1>them like left right instead of up down. If you

0:37:00.440 --> 0:37:03.000
<v Speaker 1>take those results and you look at only the ones

0:37:03.040 --> 0:37:04.920
<v Speaker 1>that have like electron that turned out to be left,

0:37:05.239 --> 0:37:06.920
<v Speaker 1>or only the ones that electron that turned out to

0:37:06.960 --> 0:37:09.480
<v Speaker 1>be right, then you see the interference pattern. So the

0:37:09.520 --> 0:37:13.200
<v Speaker 1>photons that had like a right spinning electron, you see

0:37:13.200 --> 0:37:17.000
<v Speaker 1>an interference pattern in those photons, And there's an interference

0:37:17.000 --> 0:37:19.480
<v Speaker 1>pattern in the photons that had a left spinning electron.

0:37:19.640 --> 0:37:21.440
<v Speaker 1>If you put them together, they add up to the

0:37:21.480 --> 0:37:24.759
<v Speaker 1>same smooth shape. So it's sort of like the interference

0:37:24.800 --> 0:37:27.960
<v Speaker 1>pattern was hiding inside that smooth shape. And if you

0:37:28.239 --> 0:37:31.480
<v Speaker 1>scramble the information that you knew about which photon went where,

0:37:31.640 --> 0:37:35.440
<v Speaker 1>you can recover the interference pattern from within the smooth

0:37:35.440 --> 0:37:37.719
<v Speaker 1>shape that you saw on the screen. All right, But

0:37:37.800 --> 0:37:42.040
<v Speaker 1>then that still requires an observation, right, because you're seeing

0:37:42.040 --> 0:37:43.719
<v Speaker 1>some of that information you thought you destroyed, but you

0:37:43.760 --> 0:37:45.600
<v Speaker 1>didn't really destroy it in a way, or like, did

0:37:45.640 --> 0:37:48.480
<v Speaker 1>you destroy the information in one direction and so the

0:37:48.560 --> 0:37:51.799
<v Speaker 1>quantum objects sort of adjusted into the other direction. Yeah,

0:37:51.840 --> 0:37:55.319
<v Speaker 1>you destroyed the original information, you can't know which way

0:37:55.360 --> 0:37:58.239
<v Speaker 1>the photon went right, and so that allows you to

0:37:58.400 --> 0:38:01.600
<v Speaker 1>have interference, and you can recover that interference if you

0:38:01.640 --> 0:38:04.840
<v Speaker 1>look at like some of the photons. And the reason

0:38:04.960 --> 0:38:07.360
<v Speaker 1>is that you know some of these photons are entangled

0:38:07.400 --> 0:38:09.840
<v Speaker 1>with some of these electrons in this way, and you

0:38:09.880 --> 0:38:12.520
<v Speaker 1>need to like know how to pull out the subset

0:38:12.560 --> 0:38:15.319
<v Speaker 1>of photons that have the interference pattern you're looking for.

0:38:15.760 --> 0:38:18.200
<v Speaker 1>You can only get that if you have erased the

0:38:18.280 --> 0:38:21.520
<v Speaker 1>quantum information you're looking for. If you access the quantum

0:38:21.560 --> 0:38:23.799
<v Speaker 1>information directly. If you measure spin up or down so

0:38:23.840 --> 0:38:26.640
<v Speaker 1>you know which photon went through with slit, then that

0:38:26.760 --> 0:38:30.000
<v Speaker 1>collapses the way functions essentially and means that you see

0:38:30.000 --> 0:38:33.120
<v Speaker 1>no interference. You cannot access any interference only if you

0:38:33.160 --> 0:38:36.239
<v Speaker 1>erase the information in those electrons by measuring left right

0:38:36.280 --> 0:38:38.839
<v Speaker 1>instead of up down. Can you then go back and

0:38:38.880 --> 0:38:43.400
<v Speaker 1>split the photons into two categories, each of which shows interference. Interesting?

0:38:43.400 --> 0:38:46.279
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's get into what this all means and

0:38:46.320 --> 0:38:48.759
<v Speaker 1>what it can mean about how we see reality. But

0:38:48.840 --> 0:39:03.640
<v Speaker 1>first let's take another quick break. All right, Daniel, I'm

0:39:03.680 --> 0:39:05.439
<v Speaker 1>still sort of stuck in the cat in the box

0:39:05.440 --> 0:39:08.040
<v Speaker 1>experiment because I feel like that's a little easier to grasp.

0:39:08.200 --> 0:39:10.040
<v Speaker 1>So we had a cat in the box, we puked

0:39:10.080 --> 0:39:12.319
<v Speaker 1>up with a plantum finger, and then we measured my

0:39:12.400 --> 0:39:16.600
<v Speaker 1>finger in one direction, and then we sort of destroyed

0:39:16.640 --> 0:39:21.000
<v Speaker 1>that information by measuring the finger in a different direction,

0:39:21.360 --> 0:39:22.960
<v Speaker 1>and then we see that the cat is still sort

0:39:23.000 --> 0:39:25.120
<v Speaker 1>of alive and that but only if we use the

0:39:25.160 --> 0:39:29.440
<v Speaker 1>information we got from the finger, right, Yeah, exactly. I

0:39:29.480 --> 0:39:31.600
<v Speaker 1>think if you want to talk about cats and boxes,

0:39:31.840 --> 0:39:34.880
<v Speaker 1>then you'll need like a hundred cats and a hundred boxes,

0:39:35.239 --> 0:39:37.879
<v Speaker 1>because in the end, This is a probabilistic effect. Just

0:39:37.960 --> 0:39:41.000
<v Speaker 1>like with the double slid experiment, these interference patterns are

0:39:41.040 --> 0:39:43.000
<v Speaker 1>only obvious if you do a lot of photons, so

0:39:43.040 --> 0:39:45.080
<v Speaker 1>you can see the patterns. Because a single photon could

0:39:45.120 --> 0:39:47.279
<v Speaker 1>hit the screen wherever, you can't tell if you're seeing

0:39:47.280 --> 0:39:49.960
<v Speaker 1>an interference pattern or not from one photon. So let's

0:39:49.960 --> 0:39:52.359
<v Speaker 1>say you have you know you're a cat person. Your

0:39:52.360 --> 0:39:54.759
<v Speaker 1>house is swarming with cats. Each one you put in

0:39:54.760 --> 0:39:58.560
<v Speaker 1>a box, right, and then you make this quantum measurement

0:39:58.640 --> 0:40:00.720
<v Speaker 1>of each one, but you don't look at the result.

0:40:00.960 --> 0:40:03.359
<v Speaker 1>You poke it with a quantum finger, you don't look

0:40:03.400 --> 0:40:05.839
<v Speaker 1>at the result, all right, So then you've figured out

0:40:05.880 --> 0:40:09.359
<v Speaker 1>I guess with this experiment that the objects sort of

0:40:09.440 --> 0:40:12.640
<v Speaker 1>goes back to being quantum, but not really because maybe

0:40:12.719 --> 0:40:14.600
<v Speaker 1>you're in a way, you're sort of cheating, right, You're

0:40:14.640 --> 0:40:17.000
<v Speaker 1>using some of the information you got from poking it

0:40:17.120 --> 0:40:20.440
<v Speaker 1>to make it look quantum again in a way. Right,

0:40:20.480 --> 0:40:22.720
<v Speaker 1>It's almost like the photon went back to being quantum,

0:40:22.760 --> 0:40:26.000
<v Speaker 1>but only half quantum because you were able to measure

0:40:26.320 --> 0:40:28.840
<v Speaker 1>some of it. Yeah, exactly. It's a bit mind bending

0:40:28.960 --> 0:40:31.879
<v Speaker 1>because we like to think about what happens to these

0:40:31.920 --> 0:40:34.319
<v Speaker 1>particles like what are they really doing? And we like

0:40:34.360 --> 0:40:36.160
<v Speaker 1>to think that things can't go back in time and

0:40:36.280 --> 0:40:39.600
<v Speaker 1>change their decision. And you know, the core fuzziness of

0:40:39.600 --> 0:40:42.480
<v Speaker 1>this experiment is that if you think about these things

0:40:42.520 --> 0:40:44.839
<v Speaker 1>in terms of particles and waves, you like to think

0:40:44.880 --> 0:40:46.960
<v Speaker 1>that it's a wave and then it gets collapsed into

0:40:47.040 --> 0:40:49.640
<v Speaker 1>a particle after it goes through the slit if there's

0:40:49.640 --> 0:40:52.359
<v Speaker 1>a detector there, and then needs to decide like am

0:40:52.360 --> 0:40:54.279
<v Speaker 1>I a particle or am I a wave before it

0:40:54.320 --> 0:40:56.040
<v Speaker 1>hits the screen, so that it can either make an

0:40:56.040 --> 0:40:58.640
<v Speaker 1>interference pattern or not. Right, it doesn't seem like it

0:40:58.680 --> 0:41:01.000
<v Speaker 1>would make sense for or that to depend on what

0:41:01.080 --> 0:41:03.560
<v Speaker 1>you do later on, because you can make this like

0:41:03.840 --> 0:41:07.520
<v Speaker 1>quantum information decision a year later, or ten years later,

0:41:07.600 --> 0:41:10.440
<v Speaker 1>or a thousand years later. So some people are attempted

0:41:10.480 --> 0:41:13.920
<v Speaker 1>to say that this means that there's retro causality that

0:41:14.200 --> 0:41:17.040
<v Speaker 1>based on what you do later, you can go back

0:41:17.080 --> 0:41:20.400
<v Speaker 1>in time and change the results of the experiment. I

0:41:20.440 --> 0:41:23.120
<v Speaker 1>think that's kind of nonsense. Really, what you're doing here

0:41:23.280 --> 0:41:26.800
<v Speaker 1>is just interpreting the experiment in a different way using

0:41:26.920 --> 0:41:30.600
<v Speaker 1>additional information you've extracted from the experiment. As you said,

0:41:30.600 --> 0:41:32.640
<v Speaker 1>you're sort of cheating but it's backwards right now. You're

0:41:32.719 --> 0:41:35.800
<v Speaker 1>making a measurement to know how to separate those photons

0:41:35.960 --> 0:41:38.600
<v Speaker 1>to see the interference pattern. You're not making a measurement

0:41:38.600 --> 0:41:41.120
<v Speaker 1>about which way the photon went about which slid it

0:41:41.160 --> 0:41:44.200
<v Speaker 1>went through. Instead, you're just separating the photons into the

0:41:44.200 --> 0:41:47.160
<v Speaker 1>ones that were entangled with electrons in one way versus

0:41:47.200 --> 0:41:49.799
<v Speaker 1>photons that were entangled with the electrons in the other way.

0:41:49.960 --> 0:41:52.880
<v Speaker 1>And those subsets do have the interference going on, it's

0:41:52.960 --> 0:41:55.080
<v Speaker 1>just it was masked because when you add up the

0:41:55.080 --> 0:41:58.120
<v Speaker 1>two kinds of interference, they add up to the smooth pattern.

0:41:58.239 --> 0:42:00.200
<v Speaker 1>It's like it's still the same sort of get to

0:42:00.239 --> 0:42:03.840
<v Speaker 1>a quantum that was going on before. Like the photon

0:42:03.920 --> 0:42:06.400
<v Speaker 1>looked like it had lost this quantum information, but really

0:42:06.560 --> 0:42:09.000
<v Speaker 1>like if you take that information that you got from

0:42:09.040 --> 0:42:11.640
<v Speaker 1>the poking with the finger, then you can sort of

0:42:11.840 --> 0:42:15.200
<v Speaker 1>find its quantumness in the direction that you didn't poke

0:42:15.239 --> 0:42:18.040
<v Speaker 1>it in. Yeah, exactly. And so it's a really fun

0:42:18.040 --> 0:42:21.240
<v Speaker 1>experiment to try to think about this nature of decoherence.

0:42:21.560 --> 0:42:23.320
<v Speaker 1>Like you were saying before, if you poke something with

0:42:23.360 --> 0:42:26.759
<v Speaker 1>a big classical object, it decoheres. It gets entangled with

0:42:26.840 --> 0:42:29.560
<v Speaker 1>the whole environment. Millions and millions of particles, and so

0:42:29.760 --> 0:42:32.799
<v Speaker 1>all of its quantum properties are essentially lost. Here. What

0:42:32.800 --> 0:42:35.200
<v Speaker 1>we're doing is we're like kind of cheating, we're deco

0:42:35.280 --> 0:42:38.359
<v Speaker 1>hearing it only Italian a little bit by interacting with

0:42:38.400 --> 0:42:41.280
<v Speaker 1>it with a quantum object. So we can play quantum

0:42:41.320 --> 0:42:44.840
<v Speaker 1>games with that decoherence later and in the end recover

0:42:45.000 --> 0:42:48.680
<v Speaker 1>some of that interference by erasing that information. And so

0:42:48.760 --> 0:42:51.600
<v Speaker 1>it's really sort of a great mental exercise to think

0:42:51.600 --> 0:42:54.800
<v Speaker 1>about whether you understand decoherence. And we had a whole

0:42:54.840 --> 0:42:58.560
<v Speaker 1>podcast episode about what quantum decoherence is. It's closely connected

0:42:58.840 --> 0:43:01.480
<v Speaker 1>to this question of what is a quantum measurement and

0:43:01.680 --> 0:43:04.080
<v Speaker 1>what happens when you measure something, but it's not quite

0:43:04.080 --> 0:43:07.040
<v Speaker 1>the same thing. It's more about whether quantum properties can

0:43:07.040 --> 0:43:10.239
<v Speaker 1>be observed because the different quantum states are still coherent,

0:43:10.280 --> 0:43:12.560
<v Speaker 1>whether they add up and cancel out in just the

0:43:12.640 --> 0:43:15.480
<v Speaker 1>right ways to make something have a quantum effect. I

0:43:15.480 --> 0:43:18.000
<v Speaker 1>think the main point is that you know everything is quantum,

0:43:18.120 --> 0:43:21.080
<v Speaker 1>but quantumness of something can exist kind of in different

0:43:21.120 --> 0:43:24.000
<v Speaker 1>directions in a way, or in like different aspects that

0:43:24.040 --> 0:43:25.839
<v Speaker 1>are part of the whole, but it's still you can

0:43:25.880 --> 0:43:27.839
<v Speaker 1>sort of take out half of the quantumness of an

0:43:27.840 --> 0:43:30.600
<v Speaker 1>object and still for serve sort the other half of

0:43:30.600 --> 0:43:34.360
<v Speaker 1>the quantumness that it has in the other direction. Yeah, exactly,

0:43:34.880 --> 0:43:37.040
<v Speaker 1>And so you know, the trickiness here relies in the

0:43:37.080 --> 0:43:41.000
<v Speaker 1>fact that, like by becoming entangled with a single electron

0:43:41.120 --> 0:43:43.720
<v Speaker 1>rather than the whole environment, these photons hit the screen

0:43:43.760 --> 0:43:46.960
<v Speaker 1>only become kind of decohered, right, and so it's just

0:43:47.000 --> 0:43:50.320
<v Speaker 1>a single particle to worry about. We're sort of able

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<v Speaker 1>to think about measuring in different ways, and that's really fun,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's easier to think about what this experiment means

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<v Speaker 1>in some interpretations of quantum mechanics than in others. Like

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<v Speaker 1>in many world it's not that big a deal because

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<v Speaker 1>the whole universe has a wave function and now we're

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<v Speaker 1>just talking about the quantum wave function of the photon

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<v Speaker 1>and the electron and they're kind of entangled and that's

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<v Speaker 1>no big deal, whereas in like a strict theory where

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<v Speaker 1>you have collapse, then you have to wonder like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>did the photon collapse or not, because if I don't

0:44:18.360 --> 0:44:21.120
<v Speaker 1>destroy the information and I measure it, then the photon

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<v Speaker 1>has to collapse because I knew which way it went.

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<v Speaker 1>But if I do destroy the information, then how am

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<v Speaker 1>I getting an interference pattern later on? Because for that

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<v Speaker 1>to happen, it has to stay a wave. And so

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<v Speaker 1>this is sort of troublesome for the collapse theories of

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<v Speaker 1>quantum mechanics, not so much trouble for other theories like

0:44:37.280 --> 0:44:40.319
<v Speaker 1>many worlds and relational quantum mechanics. Doesn't it just mean

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<v Speaker 1>that maybe like the wave collapse in one direction but

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<v Speaker 1>not the other direction, Like couldn't you still you know,

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<v Speaker 1>use the coping dating interpretation and just say that it

0:44:49.080 --> 0:44:51.600
<v Speaker 1>collapse in like one direction and not the other. Well,

0:44:51.600 --> 0:44:54.080
<v Speaker 1>the electron is the one that has these multiple directions

0:44:54.080 --> 0:44:57.000
<v Speaker 1>of information that spin up down versus spin left right.

0:44:57.239 --> 0:45:00.600
<v Speaker 1>The photon is either interfering or it's not, you know,

0:45:00.719 --> 0:45:03.320
<v Speaker 1>and it either collapses and it's just like a single

0:45:03.360 --> 0:45:06.160
<v Speaker 1>source which gives you the smooth pattern, or it doesn't

0:45:06.160 --> 0:45:09.440
<v Speaker 1>collapse and you have the wave function which does interfere.

0:45:09.480 --> 0:45:13.000
<v Speaker 1>There aren't multiple directions there, and so it's hard to

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<v Speaker 1>understand how it collapse theory can really work because that

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<v Speaker 1>does kind of require going back in time and like

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<v Speaker 1>uncollapsing the way of function. To me, collapsing the way

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<v Speaker 1>function makes no sense at all it's not even consistent

0:45:24.760 --> 0:45:27.640
<v Speaker 1>with quantum mechanics because it destroys quantum information in a

0:45:27.680 --> 0:45:31.240
<v Speaker 1>way that we know violates basic principles and it violates

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<v Speaker 1>the like time continuity of quantum mechanics that says you

0:45:33.719 --> 0:45:36.120
<v Speaker 1>should be able to run experiments forward and backwards. So

0:45:36.160 --> 0:45:38.400
<v Speaker 1>the collapse theory never made any sense to me, really,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think this experiment really highlights how it's sort

0:45:41.480 --> 0:45:44.200
<v Speaker 1>of nonsense. But then the only other interpretation that we

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<v Speaker 1>have is the multi world theory, right, which this multiverse

0:45:47.920 --> 0:45:50.600
<v Speaker 1>theory that every time a quantum object makes a decision,

0:45:51.120 --> 0:45:54.560
<v Speaker 1>that the two universes are created. Yeah, that's another interpretation,

0:45:54.640 --> 0:45:57.480
<v Speaker 1>and that one is pretty happy with this experiment. There

0:45:57.520 --> 0:46:00.520
<v Speaker 1>are other interpretations that you can use the are consistent

0:46:00.560 --> 0:46:03.279
<v Speaker 1>with this experiment, Like relational quantum mechanics works well with

0:46:03.320 --> 0:46:05.480
<v Speaker 1>this because it says that like, hey, everything in the

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<v Speaker 1>universe has its own measurement of these things, and so

0:46:07.760 --> 0:46:11.000
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter what you measure, there is no reality anyway.

0:46:11.080 --> 0:46:13.600
<v Speaker 1>And then there are also like other variants of collapse

0:46:13.640 --> 0:46:16.040
<v Speaker 1>theories that are not as strict. You know, let's say, well,

0:46:16.080 --> 0:46:18.360
<v Speaker 1>collapse happens in this way or in that way, so

0:46:18.400 --> 0:46:20.560
<v Speaker 1>there's a whole spectrum of them, but this is troublesome

0:46:20.600 --> 0:46:23.759
<v Speaker 1>for like the most hardcore collapse theories. All right, well,

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<v Speaker 1>then I guess to answer the question what is a

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<v Speaker 1>quantum eraser? I feel like the answer to that is

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<v Speaker 1>sort of straightforward, but it's sort of the implications of

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<v Speaker 1>what quantum eraser can do. That's really sort of what

0:46:34.280 --> 0:46:37.560
<v Speaker 1>we spend in our check on and that's really hard

0:46:37.640 --> 0:46:39.800
<v Speaker 1>to sort of get your head around. So a quantum

0:46:39.840 --> 0:46:43.760
<v Speaker 1>razer is just taking quantum information from something and erasing

0:46:43.800 --> 0:46:45.320
<v Speaker 1>it in a way. Right, Like, if I have quantum

0:46:45.320 --> 0:46:48.359
<v Speaker 1>information stored in one direction of an electron spin, by

0:46:48.360 --> 0:46:51.520
<v Speaker 1>measuring it in the other direction, I can destroy that

0:46:51.640 --> 0:46:54.719
<v Speaker 1>quantum information. Right, that's the idea of a quantum razor.

0:46:54.880 --> 0:46:57.640
<v Speaker 1>And if that electron happens to be entangled with photons

0:46:57.680 --> 0:47:00.640
<v Speaker 1>which may or may not be interfering, then whether or

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<v Speaker 1>not you erase that information or not can determine whether

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<v Speaker 1>or not you can see interference in those photons. Well,

0:47:06.560 --> 0:47:08.200
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't determine whether or not you can see it

0:47:08.280 --> 0:47:10.680
<v Speaker 1>the way it tells you how to look for that interference. Well,

0:47:10.719 --> 0:47:13.600
<v Speaker 1>if you measure the which way of the photons using

0:47:13.600 --> 0:47:16.680
<v Speaker 1>those electrons, then you cannot see interference. The only way

0:47:16.719 --> 0:47:19.480
<v Speaker 1>to see interference is to destroy that information and then

0:47:19.920 --> 0:47:22.640
<v Speaker 1>use the results of destroying that information to pick out

0:47:22.680 --> 0:47:25.440
<v Speaker 1>the interference patterns from the photons. You can't do that

0:47:25.840 --> 0:47:28.520
<v Speaker 1>if you measure which way the photon went right, right,

0:47:28.520 --> 0:47:30.920
<v Speaker 1>But you're sort of still measuring the electron, and then

0:47:30.960 --> 0:47:33.160
<v Speaker 1>that's telling you how to look for the interference in

0:47:33.200 --> 0:47:35.759
<v Speaker 1>the photon parent right. Yes, you're measuring the electron, but

0:47:35.800 --> 0:47:38.719
<v Speaker 1>you're not measuring which way the original photon went. You're

0:47:38.719 --> 0:47:41.960
<v Speaker 1>measuring something else about the electron, which destroys that information.

0:47:42.160 --> 0:47:47.080
<v Speaker 1>All right, it sounds like we erase people's brain and

0:47:47.200 --> 0:47:50.360
<v Speaker 1>hopefully not their time for the last hour. Thanks very

0:47:50.440 --> 0:47:53.560
<v Speaker 1>much for going on this journey into the weird quantum world.

0:47:53.840 --> 0:47:55.840
<v Speaker 1>I love these thought experiments, the ones people think of

0:47:55.880 --> 0:47:59.000
<v Speaker 1>and say, whoa, what would actually happen? Because that's the

0:47:59.040 --> 0:48:02.040
<v Speaker 1>fun thing about experien mental physics is confronting the universe

0:48:02.040 --> 0:48:04.439
<v Speaker 1>and saying, all right, universe, show us what you got.

0:48:04.560 --> 0:48:06.920
<v Speaker 1>We set up a situation that forced you to reveal

0:48:07.040 --> 0:48:11.160
<v Speaker 1>what's happening, and the quantum universe always responds with something crazy.

0:48:11.400 --> 0:48:13.360
<v Speaker 1>And that's why we're here. To uh talk about the

0:48:13.360 --> 0:48:15.960
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0:48:16.000 --> 0:48:19.000
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0:48:19.000 --> 0:48:21.440
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0:48:21.520 --> 0:48:23.680
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