WEBVTT - Pats from the Past, Episode 15: Richard Seymour 0:00:05.000 --> 0:00:08.200 It's another episode of Pats from the Past podcast Matt 0:00:08.240 --> 0:00:11.119 Smith along with Brian Moore, and we're pleased today to 0:00:11.240 --> 0:00:14.120 be joined by the latest member of the Patriots Hall 0:00:14.160 --> 0:00:16.599 of Fame. You know him is number ninety three in 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:18.360 your school board. We know him is number one in 0:00:18.400 --> 0:00:21.200 our hearts, ladies and gentlemen, Richard big C. 0:00:21.680 --> 0:00:24.600 H Yeah, big C's here. Guys. How are you thank 0:00:24.640 --> 0:00:25.320 you for having me? 0:00:25.360 --> 0:00:27.160 Thanks for joining us, Richard, Yeah, no, for. 0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:29.200 Sure, absolutely, I'll say this. 0:00:29.440 --> 0:00:31.000 I know we were supposed to do it about a week 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:36.839 ago and just a quick story, yeah, no, no, no, it 0:00:36.960 --> 0:00:40.600 was my birthday, right, so I had a surprise where 0:00:40.640 --> 0:00:42.879 my wife surprised me, just with a few friends that 0:00:43.040 --> 0:00:46.120 came over. And you know, I'll say this, I wasn't 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:48.400 expecting it. I know we had it. We were scheduled 0:00:48.440 --> 0:00:51.400 for that Tuesday morning to come on, but that night, 0:00:52.080 --> 0:00:55.200 one glass of wine kind of led to another and 0:00:55.240 --> 0:00:58.200 then before you know it, like the wine shifted to 0:00:58.240 --> 0:01:00.840 a little tequila and then it was like, you know what. 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:04.920 So I didn't want to come on and not be 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:09.319 able to give the fans the full Big Sea experience. 0:01:09.720 --> 0:01:11.240 So anyway, I'm here. 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:14.280 I'm happy to be here, and it's been a long 0:01:14.319 --> 0:01:17.480 time coming, but I'm glad to be joined by you guys. 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:19.400 So maybe what we should think about doing Brian is 0:01:19.520 --> 0:01:22.680 let's schedule this for his next birthday and do it 0:01:23.440 --> 0:01:25.080 and do it for the birthday. That might be the 0:01:25.120 --> 0:01:26.400 real big sea experience. 0:01:27.200 --> 0:01:29.840 I know that, you know what, We could go virtual 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:31.760 and have cameras here and the whole deal. 0:01:31.880 --> 0:01:34.040 Right, love it. We should. 0:01:34.240 --> 0:01:36.360 You should have hit Tylav, You should have hit Ty 0:01:36.440 --> 0:01:38.000 Law for some v one vodcast. 0:01:38.480 --> 0:01:42.440 No, no, this is a true story. So last year. 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:46.280 For my birthday, which was my fortieth, right, so I 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:52.400 just turned forty one, but Thy Law, Dian Branch and 0:01:52.440 --> 0:01:55.560 the guys, they came down and we had a live man. 0:01:55.760 --> 0:01:59.680 Actually it's the exact same band that performed for a 0:01:59.760 --> 0:02:01.600 tile Lost Hall of Fame induction. 0:02:03.080 --> 0:02:05.400 Yeah, so it was. It was beautiful and all. 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:09.000 The guys came and celebrated and it was a really 0:02:09.080 --> 0:02:12.000 great time. So next time we do something, I'll have 0:02:12.120 --> 0:02:14.520 to have the camera crew and give the fans a 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:15.280 little experience. 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:18.120 Right, And now you have a band for your Hall 0:02:18.200 --> 0:02:21.200 of Fame induction when that eventually comes with it better. 0:02:21.280 --> 0:02:23.400 Eventually eventually, and you know what, I don't want to 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:28.800 say it prematurely because it's it's always a difficult deal 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:31.639 to get in. But I'm I'm just I'm humbled in 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:34.400 honor to even be mentioned among you know, the elite 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:37.400 and the great to ever play the game. So you know, 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:41.160 I humbly accept that. And when that time comes, I'm 0:02:41.200 --> 0:02:45.840 sure we're already and celebrate and you know, get to 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:49.560 tell some really great stories and share, you know, because 0:02:50.000 --> 0:02:51.680 I look at it really like this, like to be 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:56.960 honest personally, like I really myself, like I don't really 0:02:57.000 --> 0:02:59.679 like to reflect the whole lot. But I also think 0:02:59.720 --> 0:03:02.400 it's opportunity in time to really thank the people that 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:05.600 has helped you along the way, just you know, from. 0:03:05.480 --> 0:03:09.680 Parent, coaches to teammates, just to really get. 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:13.120 You to understand like it is that you accomplished, and 0:03:13.360 --> 0:03:15.760 it's the opportunity to tell them thank you, you know. 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:20.840 You know, so that'll be what that's for for me personally, 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:23.840 just because like I said, I don't I don't know, 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:25.720 I kind of shout away from talking about myself a 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:29.200 whole lot, but you know, I just have to look 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:30.760 at it as you know, it's an opportunity for me 0:03:30.800 --> 0:03:33.239 to just tell you know so many thank you and 0:03:33.480 --> 0:03:36.600 and and what they meant, and how instrumental they work. 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:40.560 Well, we'll certainly enjoy at least next year putting a 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:43.520 red jacket on you if the goal, if the goal 0:03:43.640 --> 0:03:46.840 is still not there yet, well, the red one's nicer. 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:50.080 Anyway, I've heard that. 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:53.360 You know, here's the thing. I don't discriminate. I'll take 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:55.560 the red, I'll take the goal. I'll say, you know, 0:03:55.640 --> 0:03:57.800 any jackets y'all want to throw on Big C at 0:03:57.800 --> 0:03:58.400 this point. 0:03:58.200 --> 0:03:58.720 I'll take it. 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:02.800 When when Andre Tippitt said to me one day, he goes, 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:03.960 why why did you pick red? 0:04:04.800 --> 0:04:06.480 I go, what do you mean, ren? I go, that 0:04:06.560 --> 0:04:07.960 jacket's way nicer than the gold. 0:04:08.320 --> 0:04:18.440 He goes, ship, that's the triple triple I always called Tip. 0:04:18.480 --> 0:04:20.800 I called him tipp and I called him triple triple log. 0:04:21.320 --> 0:04:24.080 You know, when I was drafted to doing you know, 0:04:24.160 --> 0:04:27.560 this was back in the old pro stadium, right and uh, 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:28.480 tipically like. 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:31.480 We used to have Meaty down in the dungeon. 0:04:31.760 --> 0:04:33.920 Uh it was like right across from the wait room, 0:04:34.240 --> 0:04:37.080 Tip coming out and had on my you know, karate 0:04:37.200 --> 0:04:41.000 suit and pants and kind of talking about past rush. 0:04:40.839 --> 0:04:43.160 And that sort of thing. So I've always called him 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:43.839 a triple log. 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:48.120 You know, that's always been our relationship, just because you know, he's, uh, 0:04:48.160 --> 0:04:50.279 he was always so great for so many years and 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:53.719 you know, just a legend not only in you know, 0:04:53.839 --> 0:04:56.600 for the Patriots, but just a legend of the game 0:04:56.640 --> 0:04:57.160 of football. 0:04:57.279 --> 0:05:00.560 Well, and you know, Richard, I I talked him about 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:04.720 you last year, and you know, he raved about you 0:05:04.760 --> 0:05:08.440 as a player in support of your Hall of Fame 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:14.000 induction in Canton. And Coach Belichick also had as you know, 0:05:14.160 --> 0:05:17.559 flattering things to say, called you and Vince will Fork 0:05:17.880 --> 0:05:20.720 the two best linemen he's ever coached. And he's been 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:22.960 in the league for forty five years. I mean, coach 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:26.480 those sack pack teams of the Baltimore Colts in nineteen 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:29.080 seventy five. So, I mean, what does that mean to 0:05:29.120 --> 0:05:31.920 you when Coach Belichick makes a comment like that. 0:05:34.240 --> 0:05:36.120 It's hard to kind of take it all in. 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:39.120 You know, it really is, just because you know how 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:42.360 much admiration and respect that I have for Coach Belichick, 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:47.200 and you know, just just being a defensive minded guy 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:50.560 like I learned so much under Coach Belichick just in 0:05:50.640 --> 0:05:54.120 terms of preparation and what it means to really prepare 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:57.880 and what it means to be discipline and fundamentally sound 0:05:58.080 --> 0:06:01.600 and not just being a super talented guy. 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:03.560 But you know, when you can add. 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:09.840 Talent along with great work ethic, along with study habits, 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:14.080 along with being a great teammate, you know, like that's 0:06:14.120 --> 0:06:18.039 when greatness truly happens. And I was just very fortunate 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:21.520 that I was drafted by the Patriots because I was. 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:23.919 The young guy coming in, right, Like it was a 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:25.160 veteran lated team, you. 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:28.080 Know, Willie McGinnis and Teddy and you know Rabel came 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:31.680 in that exact same year that I was there. You know, 0:06:31.760 --> 0:06:37.000 Anthony Pleasant, Bobby Hamilton, Otis Oti. You know, Oti is 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:39.599 like ty Low. You know, like I could just keep 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:41.919 going because like those are my guys, and you know, 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:45.120 like I was, but like I was the young talented 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:48.440 guy that came in, but like I was just able 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:53.440 to soak up so much knowledge. And you know, obviously 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:55.640 when I went out to the Raiders, like it like 0:06:56.200 --> 0:06:59.720 I looked at it for me as it was an 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:01.479 opportunity where I could just share. 0:07:01.320 --> 0:07:02.599 The knowledge that I've learned. 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:04.440 Because then when I went to the like I was 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:07.040 the older guy, right, I was the older guy, and 0:07:07.080 --> 0:07:11.760 I was still able to share the knowledge and experience. 0:07:11.320 --> 0:07:14.840 Like that for me, you know, really what the game 0:07:14.960 --> 0:07:16.160 is all about. It's about people. 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:19.840 It's about relationships, and it's about sharing knowledge and so 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:21.600 you know, they passed it on to me, and it's 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:24.640 about paying it forward to others. And you know, like 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:27.240 I said, Coach Belichick to be such a genius in 0:07:27.320 --> 0:07:30.080 terms of you know, his knowledge of the game. And 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:33.400 you know, I remember when I was being recruited without 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:36.200 even recruited, I'll say that, being scouted out of. 0:07:36.120 --> 0:07:39.040 The University of Georgia, right line on Vike Tel. 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:41.240 He comes in and he was he was asking me 0:07:41.360 --> 0:07:46.040 like could you play the three four defensive end? Because 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:48.360 I was an interior guy my full time at Georgia, 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:50.840 and he was asking me, could you play the three 0:07:50.920 --> 0:07:54.160 four defensive end? And I was like, uh, yeah, sure. 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:56.240 But at the time, I didn't know if I could 0:07:56.240 --> 0:07:58.920 play that. I didn't know like what they did. I 0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:02.160 didn't know nothing about to gaffing. I just you know what, 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:04.480 if it's on the football field and it's on the 0:08:04.480 --> 0:08:06.200 defensive line, yeah I can do it. 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:07.760 That's that was my mindset. 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:09.920 But I really didn't know but he was like, would 0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:12.040 you want to come to a system that you know 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:14.160 does that? And I told him like, yeah, of course, 0:08:14.640 --> 0:08:16.200 of course I could do that. Of course I'll be 0:08:16.320 --> 0:08:18.400 you know, but I didn't know. But like I was, 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:21.280 you know, just able to learn so much from Romeo 0:08:21.320 --> 0:08:26.000 Cornell just about defense and you know, so you know, 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:26.880 I don't want to keep going. 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:29.360 I can get long windings. It's so fun to talk 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:30.680 about with my guys, for sure. 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:32.480 No, I mean, but one of the things we just 0:08:32.520 --> 0:08:34.880 brought up there Richard, that you know, just to help 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:37.360 maybe educate fans a little bit, can talk about too 0:08:37.400 --> 0:08:40.080 gapping and I'll play any place on the defensive line 0:08:40.400 --> 0:08:43.360 line or whatever you guys want. The irony about that 0:08:43.520 --> 0:08:46.600 is is that you were asked to do something. You 0:08:46.640 --> 0:08:50.600 were asked to subjugate your ego. You were asked in essence, 0:08:50.679 --> 0:08:53.320 to play a position that wasn't going to provide you 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:56.199 with a lot of statistics. And you know, we talked, 0:08:56.320 --> 0:08:58.640 we began this conversation about talking about Hall of Fame. 0:08:59.040 --> 0:09:03.040 So the guy, these stats aren't there, the flashy sack 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:05.800 numbers aren't there. You've got to know a little bit 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:08.720 about football to realize, well, this is what Richard Seymour 0:09:08.800 --> 0:09:10.760 was asked to do, and nobody was better than doing it. 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:12.400 So you got to know a little bit about the 0:09:12.440 --> 0:09:15.880 game to realize what your skill level was and what 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:16.959 you were being asked to do. 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:20.679 Yeah, yeah, no, absolutely, I think you make a valid 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:22.480 point there. You know I always say. 0:09:22.360 --> 0:09:26.000 This, like the real football heads and the real people 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:29.000 who were close to the game, they really understand, like 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:31.240 it didn't even something that we even have to discuss. 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:37.160 But I will say this just in terms of like 0:09:37.240 --> 0:09:41.239 the overall stats and you know, we would always talk about. 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:43.040 Like stats are for losers and that sort of thing. 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:46.800 Not really, but like that was the mindset, like we 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:49.760 really didn't care about who got the you know, the 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:53.719 the Pro Bowls and who was recognized as you know, 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:56.760 potentially up a defensive Player of the Year. Like we 0:09:56.840 --> 0:10:00.360 wanted to win, like we were like true champions, Like 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:02.880 whatever it takes to win, whoever has to sacrifice what, 0:10:03.320 --> 0:10:03.920 Like that's. 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:04.720 What we were all about. 0:10:04.880 --> 0:10:07.120 You can have a guy, just take a just take 0:10:07.160 --> 0:10:09.920 a I'll put it to most fans like this, like 0:10:10.200 --> 0:10:13.120 just take a prime time receiver, like they could be 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:17.400 in the game and probably maybe have one or two 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:22.160 catches that game. But the way they dictated coverage is 0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:25.640 the way that other teams had to game plan for 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:30.160 what they brought to the table and how many other 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:35.520 guys were able to succeed. Like those are the things 0:10:35.559 --> 0:10:40.559 that matter to champions day to day. Like that is 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:44.760 absolutely but like in my mind, like you know, like 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:48.000 I said before, like it's a difference between stats and impact, 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:50.959 and you know, I think at the end of the day. 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:54.040 Like, uh, you just want to win. 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:57.040 And you know, I think at the end of the day, 0:10:57.080 --> 0:10:59.120 it's a privilege and the honors or play the game 0:10:59.120 --> 0:11:01.640 that we love and you know, you get it, paid 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:05.920 money to do it, and you know, opportunity people that 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:09.000 you've probably never come in contact with and have a relationship. 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:12.199 So I'm just really grateful, to be honest, I'm grateful 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:15.080 for all the lessons that I've had and everything that 0:11:15.120 --> 0:11:16.080 the game is afforded. 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:19.520 Richard, I talked to you last year and you said this, 0:11:19.679 --> 0:11:23.000 and this is going back to Coach Belichick. His information 0:11:23.160 --> 0:11:26.400 was next level. He made me understand football as a whole. 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:29.600 It wasn't just about playing my position. I understood how 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:33.320 the pieces fit together. I understood why things happened. I 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:35.760 even learned to understand what the offensive players on the 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:39.600 other side were looking for on our defense. Right, can 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:41.520 you can you give us an example or give some 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:43.920 more detail on why that was important. 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:51.440 I'll say this, just the terminology and how smart coach 0:11:51.480 --> 0:11:52.200 Belichick was. 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:55.599 Like he would talk to the defense basically in the defensive. 0:11:55.160 --> 0:11:59.760 Language and you know, the deep line and the linebatterers 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:02.520 know the secondary. Then he would talk to the offensive 0:12:02.559 --> 0:12:07.199 line and everybody. You know, languages is sort of different. 0:12:07.240 --> 0:12:11.480 It's almost like you're speaking French, Chinese and everyone else. 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:15.680 And he's able to do it so effortlessly. But one 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:17.840 thing that they stood out to me that I don't 0:12:17.880 --> 0:12:23.079 know if a lob uh no, it's purse a great 0:12:23.360 --> 0:12:28.640 motivator without hammering that point home, you know, like he 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:33.360 would just say look and give him nuggets about you know, 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:38.360 what the other team is thinking and how they're kind 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:41.040 of preparing for you and and that sort of thing. 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:44.640 But it was always enough that when game time came. 0:12:46.200 --> 0:12:47.840 I don't know if it gets enough credit. I know 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:50.360 he gets a lot of credit for exits, right and 0:12:50.640 --> 0:12:57.160 fully so. But he was a great motivator of men, 0:12:57.440 --> 0:13:00.120 and you know he always left no stone unturned and 0:13:00.160 --> 0:13:02.880 in terms of preparation, like you know that obviously that's 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:05.600 you know, he'll go down as the greatest. 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:11.160 But he never let his foot off. And I think, 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:12.240 no matter. 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:16.880 Walk the life you're in the football, basketball, you know, 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:20.520 all winners kind of have the same drive, have the 0:13:20.559 --> 0:13:24.920 same motivations and work ethic and disciplines and fundamentals, like 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:27.440 all of those things are important. Brother, you're in business, 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:31.360 in school, you need all of those qualities to really succeed. 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:35.120 And you know, I learned so much and I'm able 0:13:35.160 --> 0:13:37.000 to not only you know, so I was blessed in 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:40.080 that regards to play for a lot of great coaches, 0:13:41.200 --> 0:13:43.400 a lot of great teammates that I just learned from. 0:13:43.440 --> 0:13:47.360 So you know, I know I'm you know, repetitive and saying, 0:13:47.480 --> 0:13:49.720 but like I'm really truly grateful. 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:55.160 I remember the team meeting room before the Philadelphia Super 0:13:55.200 --> 0:13:58.600 Bowl thirty nine because we put a camera up on 0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:02.520 like a stack of glasses, glasses in order to shoot 0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:06.040 it in the infamous. School will be out in Philadelphia 0:14:06.080 --> 0:14:09.040 on Tuesday. The kids won't be in school on Tuesday. 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:11.480 The parade route for the parade in Philadelphia is going 0:14:11.559 --> 0:14:14.559 to be jets flying over cause you're interested in that, 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:17.560 just just in case you're interested, just in case you'd 0:14:17.559 --> 0:14:21.880 be interested in that subtle way, but probably very effective. 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:26.440 But yeah, no, absolutely, it's it's all of those little 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:29.360 moments I remember kind of getting ready to go. 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:32.800 And this was that year they uh, you know, would 0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:35.880 have had LT and had you know, all of. 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:38.520 The guys and you know, merriment off the edge and 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:41.640 you know, brand their prime and you know, it was 0:14:41.720 --> 0:14:44.320 kind of like they were already teeing up the tickets 0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:47.680 for you know, family members of getting what and how 0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:50.200 they kind of you know, making arrangements and that sort 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:50.520 of thing. 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:55.920 But it was just a way of just subtly. 0:14:56.800 --> 0:15:01.960 Your attension but having a holes of knowing how to 0:15:02.080 --> 0:15:04.760 make the hairs on the back of your next stand 0:15:04.840 --> 0:15:07.080 up because we're all competitors. 0:15:06.520 --> 0:15:09.040 At the end of the day, Like it doesn't take much. 0:15:08.880 --> 0:15:12.240 To say okay, they said this, okay, well all right, 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:15.040 I know, I don't know how much I'm sleep tonight 0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:16.160 because I'm gonna be ready to go. 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:18.960 But the thing is, the thing is about that, Richard, 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:21.280 is that like it's not like you guys were six 0:15:21.320 --> 0:15:24.160 and twelve versus you know, six and ten, Like you 0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:27.000 guys are fourteen and two, fourteen and two, twelve and 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:30.240 four and here's Rodney Harrison coming in after the game. 0:15:30.440 --> 0:15:31.760 They gave us no respect. 0:15:32.040 --> 0:15:33.880 They got like, what do you mean they didn't give 0:15:33.920 --> 0:15:35.760 you respect? You guys are like divisions. 0:15:35.800 --> 0:15:39.040 You you were nine point favorite, right, but it marked 0:15:39.040 --> 0:15:41.720 with guys like that, right. 0:15:43.200 --> 0:15:45.200 You gotta keep that, Edd, you gotta keep that. 0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:50.880 It just always like anytime you're just settling and you 0:15:51.040 --> 0:15:54.000 feel like, you know, we should we lay it out there, 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:55.840 like it doesn't happen that way. 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:56.920 It really doesn't. 0:15:57.000 --> 0:16:01.000 Like you have that mentality where some time we might 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:04.880 have drum up some things. And but I think that 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:11.640 always kept us at a level to compete, uh, year 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:14.560 in and year out. It had us so ready to go. 0:16:14.760 --> 0:16:17.200 And you know, I think at the end of the day, 0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:22.840 I think it's a difference when uh, I think it 0:16:22.920 --> 0:16:25.960 was the female coach from Duke, you know, or in 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:28.720 North Carolina. I forgot which one, but you know, she 0:16:28.800 --> 0:16:32.000 made an interesting point and I was just kind of like, no, she. 0:16:32.000 --> 0:16:33.160 Hit it on the head. You know. 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:36.520 It was if you're getting ready to run a race 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:40.400 and you know, or you gotta run sprints, or something 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:43.280 like that, and and the coach told you to do it. 0:16:43.320 --> 0:16:45.440 Okay, you do it, and you know, you work hard 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:46.520 and you kind of get it done. 0:16:46.560 --> 0:16:48.920 But you know, but the teammates out there with you 0:16:49.000 --> 0:16:52.120 and and y'all running them together, it's just an extra 0:16:52.400 --> 0:16:55.040 Like you're not gonna beat me. I'm gonna just let 0:16:55.120 --> 0:16:58.160 you know that. Like, and that's what we always had. 0:16:58.280 --> 0:17:02.000 Like it was just the ability to compete weekend and 0:17:02.040 --> 0:17:04.760 week out, and we always understood as a team what 0:17:04.920 --> 0:17:06.199 our ultimate goal was. 0:17:06.280 --> 0:17:08.480 And you never wanted to be the guy to let 0:17:08.480 --> 0:17:09.160 your brother down. 0:17:09.520 --> 0:17:12.000 And you know, it was a true bond, like we 0:17:12.119 --> 0:17:14.680 hung out together, we cared about one another. Like it 0:17:14.720 --> 0:17:18.800 was a culture that we created there when I got 0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:22.640 there in two thousand and one and we were coming 0:17:22.680 --> 0:17:25.760 off of five and eleven season. But from that point 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:29.840 moving forward, we created a culture that I'm telling you 0:17:29.960 --> 0:17:32.600 that it's a bond that you know, we still talk 0:17:32.680 --> 0:17:34.560 to this day. And that's why I said, like the 0:17:34.640 --> 0:17:38.040 relationships that I have with Rodney and Willie and you know, 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:43.280 you know Vince and like I said, Ty Warren, like Jarvis, 0:17:43.520 --> 0:17:47.600 like I mean like like those are lifetime relationships. But 0:17:47.760 --> 0:17:50.480 we all had that same commonality that we didn't want 0:17:50.480 --> 0:17:52.680 to let each other down, Like our families hung out 0:17:52.680 --> 0:17:55.520 together and our kids we would always you know, go 0:17:55.600 --> 0:17:56.840 to dinners and do you know. 0:17:56.920 --> 0:17:59.520 So it was like like the friendships. 0:17:59.560 --> 0:18:02.760 It was so authentic and so real and we cared 0:18:02.760 --> 0:18:05.720 about one another. And when you create something like that, 0:18:06.240 --> 0:18:11.520 like it's so special, and it's hard in life, you 0:18:11.560 --> 0:18:15.320 know to find that, Like you always in search of, 0:18:16.359 --> 0:18:23.040 you know, something to bring out that that monster inside 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:25.720 of you, like just to compete at a level that 0:18:26.240 --> 0:18:30.360 is really unheard of, Like like I could, I could 0:18:30.359 --> 0:18:33.560 get really emotional about it, really so. 0:18:33.640 --> 0:18:38.280 Richard, I just one one follow up on Bill. So 0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:41.520 as great as he is, and you've talked a lot about, 0:18:41.960 --> 0:18:45.320 you know, the genius of Bill Belichick as a star 0:18:45.440 --> 0:18:48.400 player on a roster, on a football roster, how hard 0:18:48.480 --> 0:18:50.399 is it sometimes to be just treated as one of 0:18:50.480 --> 0:18:51.080 fifty three? 0:18:51.520 --> 0:18:52.560 Like does that wear on you? 0:18:56.840 --> 0:18:57.080 Well? 0:18:57.119 --> 0:18:58.680 I think at the end of the day, like. 0:19:02.280 --> 0:19:06.919 I look at it twofold right in one regards, I 0:19:06.960 --> 0:19:13.040 think it always keeps the edge, like it always keeps 0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:16.000 you raise your sharp in terms of you know what, 0:19:16.280 --> 0:19:21.639 like no excuses are going to be had, like in 0:19:21.720 --> 0:19:26.040 order for us to meet in order for you to 0:19:26.080 --> 0:19:30.639 maximize the talents that you have and also as a 0:19:30.680 --> 0:19:35.000 team to ultimately compete at the highest. 0:19:34.640 --> 0:19:36.640 Level week in and week out. 0:19:36.800 --> 0:19:39.240 Like I think you have to have that right so 0:19:40.560 --> 0:19:43.479 on one, like I totally understand it, and I always 0:19:43.520 --> 0:19:45.520 looked at it like this, I wanted you to coach 0:19:45.560 --> 0:19:48.199 me hard, like I wanted to know what if I 0:19:48.200 --> 0:19:52.719 did something wrong, tell me, and I want to correct it, 0:19:52.760 --> 0:19:56.560 because I would always say, like, help me, help you, 0:19:56.560 --> 0:19:58.520 you know what I mean, Like that was my mindset, 0:19:58.560 --> 0:20:00.560 Like I didn't want to leave in stone lift and 0:20:00.600 --> 0:20:04.400 turned either I prepared and I put in more work 0:20:04.440 --> 0:20:07.600 than my opponent, Like that's what gives you confidence. What 0:20:07.680 --> 0:20:09.480 gives you confidence at the end of the day is 0:20:09.520 --> 0:20:11.280 knowing that I put him more work than the guy 0:20:11.280 --> 0:20:15.240 in the across from me, so I should kick his ass, 0:20:15.440 --> 0:20:17.040 like and that's how I felt about it at the 0:20:17.080 --> 0:20:19.040 end of the day. I felt like I should do 0:20:19.119 --> 0:20:24.080 that because I'm prepared to do And I'll say this, 0:20:24.359 --> 0:20:28.480 like in my mind, the way that you show me 0:20:29.960 --> 0:20:31.600 that you value what I bring to. 0:20:31.520 --> 0:20:34.359 The table, Like that's why we all have contracts, Like 0:20:34.400 --> 0:20:36.919 you get you get paid to punt the value that 0:20:37.000 --> 0:20:38.119 you bring to the team. 0:20:38.400 --> 0:20:41.760 Like, so if we're compensated and all of that, like 0:20:41.800 --> 0:20:45.200 the business is handled and and done with, Hey, let's 0:20:45.240 --> 0:20:46.160 get to work, Like. 0:20:46.119 --> 0:20:48.200 That's my mindset. Let's get to work. All the business 0:20:48.240 --> 0:20:50.360 is taken care of, Like let's. 0:20:50.240 --> 0:20:54.399