1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,320 Speaker 1: The Action Network Podcast. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 2: I'm just about that action, all. 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 3: Right. 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 2: Here we go throwing out so spect we're saying it's 5 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 2: a cash touchdown. 6 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 1: That's all we see. Most gamble is when they go 7 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: to gamble, they go to win. That's incredible. 8 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 2: Big bank, small banks. I like to make money. 9 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: All right, this is just the ultimate combine you want 10 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: to fall and we are underway. 11 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 2: Well, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, children of all ages, 12 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Action Were podcast presented by DraftKings. I 13 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 2: am your host, Evan Abrams, and I am joined by 14 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 2: the One the Only, Brandon Anderson. Tonight feels like a 15 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 2: little bit of a different show. I mean, we just 16 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 2: watched a pretty defensive and then a pretty crappy offensive 17 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 2: game from Kansas City that now kind of eliminates them, 18 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 2: but not really. They can't win the division anymore. But 19 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 2: we will get all into that in a little bit. 20 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 2: Plus we will get into Monday Night football. Brandon's hot 21 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 2: read tons of stuff. We will try to get through 22 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 2: things relatively quickly, since I believe Brandon you can kind 23 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 2: of hate on this before I get my stat like 24 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 2: at this point, go through the games. But it's kind 25 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 2: of about the weeks to come the playoffs. Some bets 26 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 2: like things of that nature to kind of talk actionable 27 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 2: going forward, but I feel like, you know, today was 28 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 2: a bit of a mess. We had a lot of points, 29 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 2: which will kind of go into my stat a little bit. 30 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 2: But what do you just make of the picture you 31 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 2: see so far? 32 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think that's a lot. What's happening 33 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 4: is where we're really starting to whittle down the playoff field, 34 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 4: and it continues to shock our system, right because all 35 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 4: these teams that we thought were these not just playoff 36 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 4: teams but having Super Bowl contenders continue to look on 37 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 4: the outside. So we got the Chiefs look nearly outside 38 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 4: for good. The Ravens are back outside again. The Lions, 39 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 4: even though they got their win, are still outside. I 40 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 4: believe at this moment in the eight seed the Bears 41 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 4: fall from the one down to the seven today. So 42 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 4: we really have kind of like knocked out five or 43 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 4: six teams in each conference, but the other remaining teams 44 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 4: are just like topsy turvy every single week. So it's 45 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 4: been pretty wild. It really felt like the the I 46 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 4: know we've done this, like how many times we me 47 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 4: and you we the media. It feels like the death 48 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 4: of the Chiefs dynasty. 49 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: And I know we. 50 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 4: Keep doing that, but like they're pretty close to just 51 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 4: out of the playoffs right now. Like I thought about 52 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 4: just going in all black today and coming to the funeral. 53 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 4: So I feel like, once you do your stat, that's 54 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 4: kind of where we have to start, is just the Chiefs. 55 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,239 Speaker 4: So they've been the story for almost a decade now, 56 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 4: and they're not the story this year anymore. 57 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 2: The one thing all said, even if the Chiefs don't 58 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 2: make the playoffs, as long as they have Patrick Mahomes, 59 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 2: and I'd probably add Andy Reid to that, the dynasty's 60 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 2: not dead. The dynasty's dead when Homes is no longer 61 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 2: a Chief, Like whatever they do in the offseason, whenever 62 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 2: they do next year, if they make the Super Bowl 63 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 2: next year, or whatever the case may be, you know, 64 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 2: people will say he's no longer the goat because of 65 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 2: Brady whatever missing the playoffs. Who cares, Like, there's still 66 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:21,519 Speaker 2: a long road ahead right now this year injuries, Like 67 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 2: there's lots of reasons why Kansas City kind of is 68 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 2: where it is, But we'll get to that in one second. 69 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 2: Look how excited we are. Let me just get this 70 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 2: stat out of the way. So two things another week, 71 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 2: another set of public sides, kind of down the drain. 72 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 2: So they are four and six this week. That sixty 73 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 2: percent of tickets are higher. Philly kind of in that 74 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 2: spot tomorrow night. About sixty percent right now, but a 75 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 2: lot can happen in about twenty four hours. Those sixty percent. 76 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 2: Teams are fifty to eighty four now ats thirty seven 77 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 2: percent and under and below five hundred and thirteen of 78 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 2: fourteen weeks. And we had mentioned it. Overs started week fourteen, 79 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 2: eleven and one before Sunday Night football and with just 80 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 2: Minnesota and Washington shutout, going under the total now eleven 81 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 2: and two after Sunday Night football. And if Philly and 82 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 2: the Chargers go over the total tomorrow night, I believe, 83 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 2: and I have to double check this, I'll put it 84 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 2: out later, it will be the highest win percentage for 85 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 2: overs in a single week since nineteen ninety six. So 86 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 2: we will see what happens on Monday Night football. But 87 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 2: let's get to Sunday Night Football. First, Houston wins the 88 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 2: game twenty to ten. They cover the plus four and 89 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 2: a half on close under forty one and a half. 90 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 2: I think I want to start kind of just with 91 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 2: the steam late like this was a three and a 92 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 2: half point spread, and about an hour before kick forty 93 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 2: five and then thirty. As we got closer, this went 94 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 2: to four, then went to four and a half, even 95 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 2: touched five before coming back right before kickoffs. So there 96 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 2: was some steam, some sharp, some money, whatever you want 97 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,799 Speaker 2: to call it, coming in on case right before kickoff. 98 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 2: I don't know what it was. I know I talked 99 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 2: to a lot of people. I liked Houston tonight. I 100 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 2: think a lot of people like Houston tonight. Like if 101 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:05,119 Speaker 2: you just looked unit to unit across the board, I'm 102 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 2: just not sure how you were laying four or even 103 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 2: four and a half in that spot with Kansas City 104 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 2: and it looked that way the entire night. So at 105 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 2: least to me, the O line injuries and then the drops, 106 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 2: I think there was like six or seven drops on 107 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 2: Kansas City side. If even half of those get completed, 108 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 2: I mean, you put Mahomes in a spot where anything 109 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 2: can happen. But he just looks so dejected. Throw after 110 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 2: throw after throw, and I have to look at the 111 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 2: box preyer, I believe he had three interceptions in this game. Yeah, 112 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 2: three interceptions, only fourteen completions fourteen completions, the lowest he's 113 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 2: ever had in a loss in his NFL career, and 114 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 2: for the second time in his NFL career, he completes 115 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 2: less than fifty percent of passes, doing so twice in 116 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 2: the same season, when he had never done it before 117 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 2: in any other game in the NFL with the Chiefs. So, 118 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 2: I think what we were seeing out of Kansas City 119 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 2: this year is just a fallen apart roster. Really, Like, 120 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 2: I think this is a retooling that needs to happen 121 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 2: in the offseason because the pieces just aren't there right now. 122 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 2: And the most impressive and now I'll talks back to 123 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 2: you after this most impressive thing I saw today Houston's 124 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 2: defense Holy mackerel. Like week to week, no matter what happens, 125 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 2: their physicality. They're hitting like across the board, from pass 126 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 2: rush to linebackers to the secondary. It just looks so complete. 127 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 2: But what did you take away from tonight? 128 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, so let's start with Kansas City. 129 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 4: We'll get to Houston because I think they need to 130 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 4: be a takeaway here too. But you mentioned the drops 131 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 4: six drops tonight that is the most in the Mahomes era. 132 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 1: Kelsey had a huge drop light that became. 133 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 4: An interception where she had the big drop on the 134 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 4: previous fourth down that basically ended the game, ended the 135 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 4: season effectively for them. Those are your stars, Like, these 136 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 4: are the guys that you waited for Kelsey to be 137 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 4: ready for the big game, you waited for Rashid to. 138 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: Be back in the lineup. 139 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 4: These are the guys that are supposed to kind of 140 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 4: save the season, and they're the guys that end up 141 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 4: ending the season. 142 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: The Chiefs go three of ten on third down. 143 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 4: All of the Mahomes specialty, right, they can come through 144 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 4: when they need them. Three of ten two yards on 145 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 4: ten plays with the interception plus a sack, just like Mahomes. 146 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: It felt like in the third quarter the Chiefs were 147 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: the Chiefs. 148 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 4: Chris Jones was doing menacing things, Kelsey had a couple 149 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 4: of plays, Mahomes looked like Mahomes again. It was like, yes, 150 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 4: finally the thing we've been wanting to see. They hit 151 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 4: the downfield pass right away after halftime. It felt like 152 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 4: we put the time machine in like five years ago 153 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 4: and watched the Chiefs again. But they only had one quarter. 154 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 4: It's just one quarter in them, and then you know 155 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 4: they kind of refeel themselves. I think that fourth down 156 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 4: decision was very aggressive by Andy Reid, and they kind 157 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 4: of went the quick snap. I think they're maybe trying 158 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 4: to catch them off guard, and it just didn't happen. 159 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 4: You know, they didn't convert, and it goes the other way. 160 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 4: Texans do convert. On the third down, Stroud looks like 161 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 4: he's gonna take a sack out of field goal range, 162 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 4: instead avoids it and gets the first down. A couple 163 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 4: of plays later they get the touchdown, and that's it. 164 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 4: From ten to ten to season over basically, so from 165 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 4: the start of the game, literally the start of the game, 166 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 4: the first play of the game, the Chiefs are already 167 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 4: down three starting offensive lineman. There's only five, You're down three, 168 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 4: and their third string tackle Janye Morris gets injured on 169 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 4: the first play. Looks bad, looks like he's probably done 170 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 4: for the season. 171 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 2: Two. 172 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 4: So that's your top three tackles. They played the entire 173 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 4: game against that defense you were just describing with an 174 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 4: undrafted rookie left tackle whose name I've never heard of 175 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 4: before tonight, I'll be honest, like I've never seen that 176 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 4: guy's name ever in my life before. 177 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: That's what they're playing with. 178 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:54,959 Speaker 4: And then on top of it, I think it was 179 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 4: still the first quarter, certainly first half. Trent McDuffie leaves 180 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 4: hurt as well with a knee injury. He doesn't come back. 181 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 4: Trent McDuffie is a stud. Like Trerent McDuffie does not 182 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 4: get enough credit. They talked about on the broadcast. It's 183 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 4: either him or Chris Jones are the top defensive players 184 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 4: on this team, and I think it's pretty close between them. 185 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 4: So that was a huge loss and an entire football team. Obviously, 186 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 4: losing the quarterback, losing Mahomes hurt would be the biggest injury. 187 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 4: But if you look at cluster injuries, where the injuries 188 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 4: add up the most, we say it over and over 189 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 4: offensive line and cornerback. So here's the offensive line missing 190 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 4: what four of its top six or seven guys against 191 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 4: the best defense, and then missing your top corner in 192 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 4: the cascade effect of that all the way down. They 193 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 4: missed Watson early in the season as well. 194 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 5: I think you're right that the roster has decayed, but 195 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 5: the roster has decayed by age an injury also, like 196 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 5: they just can't get healthy and even in this game 197 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,479 Speaker 5: to be where they were in the fourth quarter. 198 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 4: With momentum looking like they were going to do the 199 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 4: Chiefs thing and get the win and save the season 200 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 4: despite those injuries. Stuff they came in with is pretty 201 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 4: crazy now. According to New York Times odds, the Chiefs 202 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 4: currently at sixteen percent to make the playoffs one in six. 203 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 4: Go roll a die, did you get a one? That's 204 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 4: the Chiefs making the playoffs. That's the odds we're looking at. 205 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 4: I thought the Colts loss would help them today. It did, 206 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 4: but they needed to win tonight. They go Chargers at Titans, 207 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 4: Broncos at Raiders. Okay, that sounds winnable, right, great, even 208 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 4: if they run the table. Per the athletic they are 209 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 4: just barely better than a coin flip to make the playoffs. 210 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,439 Speaker 4: Then you lose even to one, they're down to four percent, 211 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 4: so we're basically. 212 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: On life support here. 213 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 4: Like they need to win out, which right now there's 214 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 4: no real guarantee they should be doing that. The Chargers 215 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 4: playing for the playoffs, the Broncos are playing for the 216 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 4: one seed, so they get to win all four of those, 217 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 4: and they're going to need a bunch of help at 218 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 4: this point, which they started to get some. 219 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: We'll get to those games later, but. 220 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 4: This probably was the end of the Chief season. You're 221 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 4: right at the end of the dynasty. Pat's gonna still 222 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 4: do Pat things, but it feels like maybe the end 223 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 4: of this version of the dynasty because Kelsey and Chris 224 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:14,079 Speaker 4: Jones in particular, other than Pat Mahomes, they're the guys, 225 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 4: and it feels like we can't get too much more 226 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 4: of them at this point. 227 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: We got one more glorious quarter and I think that 228 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: may have been it tonight. 229 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, the decision for Andy Reid, it just I haven't 230 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 2: looked at the data. I'm sure everyone's gonna say it's 231 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 2: puzzling as hell, especially I think when you look at 232 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 2: it from what CJ. Stroud had done up to that 233 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 2: point and how shook he look on his side to 234 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 2: not punt to him and just allow your defense. If 235 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 2: he would have drove down the field and that's how 236 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 2: you lose the game, I would have accepted that a 237 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 2: lot more than this, because you gave him the short 238 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 2: it's just you kind of hit. It was a very 239 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 2: odd decision, but he's used to giving Pat Mahomes the ball, right. 240 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 2: I just the thing that also took me is the 241 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 2: drops and the drops by different players. Usually when you 242 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 2: have six or seven drops from a team, it's a 243 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 2: guy like it's one guy dropping three. It's usually that scenario. 244 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,439 Speaker 2: It felt like everybody was dropping passes across the board, 245 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 2: hunt Rice, like everywhere you looked, somebody was doing something 246 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 2: to help Houston's defense, the best defense in the NFL. 247 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 2: You can't help them, you know, be better. And that's 248 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 2: pretty much what the Chiefs did tonight. I think that 249 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 2: Charger game tomorrow night is just a little interesting to 250 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 2: the fact that they get them at home the next 251 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 2: week on a short rest, so maybe a small advantage there. 252 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 2: We'll see what Herbert looks like and we'll talk about 253 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 2: that later and then at Tennessee before that Denver Christmas game. 254 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 2: That should be a fun one to handicap. Can't wait 255 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 2: for that. But Chiefs have been struggling on kind of 256 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 2: all levels. When you just look against the spread, patsown 257 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 2: nine and seventeen ats in his last twenty six starts, 258 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:02,199 Speaker 2: lost five and row against the spread. In that span, 259 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 2: He's four and eleven ats versus teams above five hundred, 260 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 2: and that's probably the stat that you have to look 261 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 2: at the most. Those are the teams you need to 262 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 2: compete with to try to get into the playoffs, and 263 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 2: four and eleven number is just rough. As heck. I 264 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 2: mentioned how bad he played tonight, the three interceptions, like 265 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 2: diving into the stats. It's bad. I mean ten points 266 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 2: at home. I don't think that's happened for Casey since 267 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 2: twenty seventeen. You can go on and on and on, 268 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 2: but right from the start, you know, the offensive lineman 269 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 2: gets hurt, Mahomes is sitting there on one knee like 270 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 2: you're saying to yourself, well, this legitimately couldn't have started 271 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 2: any worse because it was just an absolute look. It 272 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 2: looked like everyone was dejected from the start, Like there's 273 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 2: certain ways to start games. That just wasn't one of them. 274 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:45,599 Speaker 2: But I think we should talk about Houston for a 275 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 2: second before we know, because I don't exactly believe Houston's 276 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 2: offense played fantastic, Like I don't really think. I looked 277 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 2: at how Stroud played during this game. He had like 278 00:13:56,400 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 2: nine straight incompletions as well. He looked completely in rattled 279 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 2: in like the middle portion of this game. And I 280 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 2: think that's and I think that's noteworthy because I feel 281 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 2: like Stroud has struggled in his entire career under pressure, 282 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 2: and at first Casey's not showing that. And then all 283 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 2: of a sudden they were ramping up. Carl Loftus was 284 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 2: getting in and at that point CJ. Stroud looked a 285 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 2: bit rattled, and I think Demiko even started to adjust 286 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 2: some of the game plan a little bit. So what 287 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 2: do you make of I mean, Houston right now, they're rolling. 288 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 2: They look like they're probably in a mix to get 289 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 2: into the playoffs if they keep this up. I mean, 290 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 2: they've got this win so important when you've got Arizona 291 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 2: and the Raiders at home in back to back games. Now, 292 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 2: So I mean this, what is it five game winning 293 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 2: streak could easily be seven. So what do you make 294 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 2: of Houston going forward? Because that defense unbelievable. 295 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think they could win out the 296 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 4: rest of the season. After those, it's at the Chargers, 297 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 4: which is really just Chargers neutral because it's at the Chargers. 298 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 4: And then it's the Colton Week eighteen, which look like 299 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 4: this monster game but they don't have a quarterback now, 300 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 4: which we'll talk about a bit. So there are three 301 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 4: home games out of four, plus effectively a non road 302 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 4: game and their touchdown favorites at least in all the 303 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 4: home games there. So I think it's on the table 304 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 4: for them to run the table into the playoffs even 305 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 4: right now before any of that. They are, by the 306 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 4: athletic ninety two percent to make the playoffs right now, 307 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 4: This is a playoff team, Like they are as likely 308 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 4: to make the playoffs right now as the Chiefs would 309 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 4: be to miss it if they. Yeah, I lost the 310 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 4: analogy they're gonna be in, like they're very likely in 311 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 4: at this point. And don't forget, not only are they 312 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 4: winning five in a row, but Buffalo India in the 313 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 4: Chiefs is the last three, Like that's the stretch that 314 00:15:56,480 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 4: they had here. And yeah, I've really liked this team, 315 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 4: but it was really hard to buy in because they 316 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 4: probably were gonna have to run the table on those 317 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 4: three to get into this position. But now they've done it, 318 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 4: and two of these on the road Chiefs and Colts 319 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 4: as well. Right now, still only about one in three 320 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 4: shot at the division. But I don't totally believe in 321 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 4: Jacksonville just yet, and that schedule certainly is winnable for 322 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 4: them even if they don't get the division but make 323 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 4: the playoffs they're probably the five or six seed. They 324 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 4: probably play Jacksonville in the first round, or they played 325 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 4: the AFC North team. Those are very winnable playoff games. 326 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 4: In fact, here's the question I posed on Twitter just 327 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 4: where we came on. How many AFC playoff teams would 328 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 4: you favor over Houston on a neutral field right now? 329 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 4: I'm to answer my own question. My answer is zero. 330 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 4: There's not anybody that I would favor. The only I 331 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 4: say AFC playoff teams because by my numbers, there's only 332 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 4: one AFC team that I'd still have a slight favorite 333 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 4: on a neutral and they just beat them to but 334 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 4: they're not a playoff team anymore right now, so I 335 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 4: can't say it's the Chiefs. And right now my top 336 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,360 Speaker 4: four teams and my power ratings are all in the NFC. 337 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 4: And then it comes into Houston not long after that. 338 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 4: His defense is awesome, the offense has slowly been trending up, 339 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 4: and you're right. Stroud looked shook, but the game plan 340 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 4: was clearly spags blitz, blitz, blitz all game, then blitz 341 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 4: some more. And Stroud looked shook because he's getting hit 342 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 4: all a game, but he hung in there and He 343 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 4: made some big throws on third down, and he made 344 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 4: the winning throws like he got them over the line 345 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 4: in this game in ways where he wasn't doing that 346 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 4: earlier this season and last season. So I think there's 347 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 4: certainly a real threat in the AFC, and I think 348 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 4: we're to move past them being a playoff a threat 349 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 4: to make the playoffs, their threat to make noise in 350 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 4: the playoffs at this point, like they could be they 351 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 4: could be coming out of the AFC. 352 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 2: Now. Yes, some of those throws on the run too, 353 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 2: were pretty impressive, like he was getting out of past rushes, 354 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 2: he was finding open guys. He looked and I think 355 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 2: this is kind of disrespectful, but I don't really have 356 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 2: a better comparison. He looked a little Kleby and you know, 357 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 2: making plays and doing this, doing that. It felt like 358 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 2: with that combination of a guy who can play pretty 359 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 2: well on the run with that defense. Now you lost 360 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 2: Nick Chubb tonight, but if you have Chubb, you have 361 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 2: what he marks, Like there's pieces there. I love. I 362 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 2: loved what I saw out of Jaden Higgins. I think 363 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 2: Houston is completely dangerous. And I like Demiko, which you 364 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 2: know you talk about a lot of these head coaches. 365 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 2: To me, Demiko's just fine, Like he does exactly what 366 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 2: he needs to do. He's obviously more on the defensive 367 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 2: side of the ball. But I think on offense, they 368 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 2: they seem to just do enough. Like the twenty point 369 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 2: mark that they put up tonight seems about what they 370 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 2: usually do. It's twenty two, it's twenty four, it's it's 371 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 2: in that area. And you know what their defense says, 372 00:18:56,160 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 2: that's just fine, It's completely cool. So that's the recipe 373 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 2: for Houston, and man, it's goddamn dangerous. 374 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're a very dangerous team right now. They're gonna 375 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 4: be a dangerous team. We're gonna be talking about for 376 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 4: a while. 377 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 2: Still, all right, last one, then we go on Pat 378 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 2: Mahomes now forty eight and twenty nine to the under 379 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 2: at home in his career, best mark of any quarterback 380 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 2: in our data base two hundred and seventy eight quarterbacks 381 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 2: since two thousand and five. Insane, But that says a 382 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 2: lot about his offense in a lot of those games 383 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 2: as well. All Right, Next game, Chicago, Green Bay. Green 384 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 2: Bay wins the game twenty eight to twenty one. They 385 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 2: cover minus six and a half on close just barely 386 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 2: total over forty four and a half. It took some 387 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 2: time for Chicago to get into this game. I felt 388 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 2: like three straight punts, punked on four of the first 389 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 2: five drives, little to no offense for Chicago in the 390 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 2: first half. Really, I mean, you were looking at some 391 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,360 Speaker 2: of those Caleb passing yards. I felt like I saw 392 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 2: ten yards, fifteen yards, twenty three yards end of half 393 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 2: type deal. I don't remember the final number, but it 394 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 2: was pretty much in that vein now. It also feels 395 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 2: like Green Bay is having a tough time closing out teams. 396 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 2: So when they went up fourteen to three, my first 397 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 2: instinct was Chicago's gonna get back in the game. Even 398 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 2: when they went up twenty one to eleven, I said, 399 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 2: I still think Chicago has a shot. You know, I 400 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 2: hit some lines, I bet some things. I even bet 401 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 2: them to win, and I covered it with some ten 402 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 2: and a half, some seven and a half like things 403 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 2: of that nature ends up coming through. But to me, 404 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 2: the story of the game is mostly what Caleb was 405 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 2: able to do on the run, Like he created some 406 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 2: unbelievable plays on a green Bay pass rush that I believe. 407 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 2: I believe he only got sacked once in the entire game. 408 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 2: So to me, for Chicago to get the loss in 409 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 2: that scenario, fine, Green Bay's defense is really top notch, 410 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 2: But Chicago played in a game with what I think 411 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 2: we would call a top team in the NFL, and 412 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:56,199 Speaker 2: this felt like Chicago belonged, which I don't think we 413 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 2: could say for a long long time. So to me, 414 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 2: that's what I take away. Corgo lose the game, fine, 415 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 2: but going forward, I feel like they compete with any 416 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 2: one week to week. 417 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a team that we have made money 418 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 4: off of this year, but also admitted they've been quite 419 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,479 Speaker 4: lucky along the way, and I think this is one 420 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 4: of their more impressive games like that that have that 421 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 4: in bold in my notes. 422 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: Honestly, I came away. 423 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 4: More impressed by the Bears after this game than after 424 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 4: a lot of their games so far this season. They 425 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 4: were basically even on success rate for the game. 426 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:26,880 Speaker 1: They moved the ball. 427 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 4: They were successful in about two thirds of their runs 428 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 4: in the game. That Ben Johnson rushing attack really moved 429 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 4: the ball well. The Packers won this game the way 430 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 4: I thought they'd win the game, with explosives six and 431 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 4: a half yards of play to four point six for Chicago, 432 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,919 Speaker 4: so two yards of play more. They threw touchdowns of 433 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 4: twenty three, forty one and forty five yards. The Bears 434 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 4: did not have a double digit yard to run the 435 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 4: entire game. So here they are running successfully all game long, 436 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 4: two out of every three carries, but never busting the 437 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 4: long one. That's the sort of defense that Green Bay 438 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 4: has played this season is giving up some of those 439 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 4: plays but not the big one. Those three pass plays, 440 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,719 Speaker 4: that's what the Bears defense is given up this season. 441 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 4: Those three long touchdowns were worth five, four point three 442 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 4: and three point five EPA, So that's thirteen points basically 443 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 4: of added value, thirty five percent win probability on a 444 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,919 Speaker 4: three plays. So you have the Bears going basically mano 445 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 4: almano playing the Packers even all game long. The three 446 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 4: plays did the men and otherwise the Bears probably are 447 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 4: the better team. But that's not how it works. Those 448 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 4: big plays add up, and it wasn't big plays turnovers, 449 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 4: it wasn't big plays of fluky bounces. It was Jordan 450 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 4: Love beating you down the field. And that was the 451 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 4: cap on this game going in, and that's what it 452 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 4: came about. Jordan Love ends up with twelve point four 453 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 4: average depths of target. 454 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 2: That's a huge. 455 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 4: Number, but also twelve percent to the good completion over expected. 456 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 4: You're not supposed to be able to put those two 457 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 4: numbers to You're not supposed to be able to throw 458 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 4: it way down the field like that, but still be 459 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 4: completing passes that well. And Christian Watson has really looked 460 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 4: great since he's come back from injury. That's my dude 461 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,439 Speaker 4: from NBSU know how I love my Bison who are 462 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 4: out in the FCS playoffs. I gotta watch him in 463 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 4: the NFL. 464 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: Now. 465 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 4: I didn't have a lot of hope for Watson. I 466 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 4: didn't expect him to look like really the number one 467 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 4: receiver for this team. Matthew Goldman rookie was supposed to 468 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 4: take that role. He Kim Brily get on the field 469 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 4: right now. Jane Reed is back. He looked good for them. 470 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 4: Watson eighty nine yards two touchdowns in this game continues 471 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 4: to be that big play, go to guy for the 472 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 4: Packers and for Jordan Love. Love we talked about as 473 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 4: an MVP candidate if they got this win going forward. 474 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 4: His MVP olds are about and a half after this, 475 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 4: so Stafford back as the clear lead, but Love's closing 476 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 4: like he is clearly the third guy at this point. 477 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 4: So yeah, I think honestly, you come away camera press 478 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 4: with both teams here like that. The Bears we mentioned 479 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 4: drop from the one to the seven seed, but that's 480 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 4: just because everything is so contested. Even at the end 481 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 4: you get a long Bears drive, seven plays sixty yards, 482 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 4: you get fourth and one. 483 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: They go for it all. They try to get the 484 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 1: explosive to tie it up. They don't. 485 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 4: They get picked off, and that's it. I agree with you. 486 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 4: I was really impressed with Caleb Williams. You're not gonna 487 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 4: see in the box score like this was an eye 488 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 4: test Kaleb Williams game to me, the box score stats 489 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 4: or whatever. One sack is nice. He's been really good 490 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 4: at avoiding sacks this yearies literally zero points, zero EPA 491 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 4: per play. Nothing in the numbers is going to tell 492 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 4: you he was great. He just looked and felt the 493 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 4: part today in a huge game on the road. I 494 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 4: thought the Bears have a lot of good takeaway out 495 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 4: of this. Chicago's still about two thirds chance to make 496 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 4: the playoffs twenty percent in the division, so damaging loss 497 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,880 Speaker 4: for sure, but they go Brown's next. Now, I'll say this, 498 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 4: that's the exact sort of game the Bears would usually lose. 499 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 4: As the guy that lives here in Chicago land and 500 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 4: watches the Bears at home against the Browns, they lose 501 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 4: that game and blow the season after losing this one. 502 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 4: I think this Bears team is different. I think Ben 503 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 4: Johnson's Bears are different. But don't do it Chicago. They 504 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 4: go Browns, Packers at Niners, and Lions. I played around 505 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 4: with the with the odds two and two is probably 506 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 4: enough to make the playoffs. That's basically the story there. 507 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 4: So beat the Browns and then you need one more. 508 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 4: It's gonna be tough, but you get home Packers at 509 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 4: the Niners home Lions, and all three of those might 510 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 4: effectively beat playoff games. 511 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 1: But guess what hapen? 512 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 4: We just watch them in effectively a playoff game, and 513 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 4: they belonged on that field, and they look the part, 514 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 4: and they should be able to win one of those 515 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 4: games at least and get in. 516 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 2: I mean they belonged literally up until Caleb made the 517 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 2: dumb throw, which he seems to do it. That's the thing, 518 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 2: and that's my note. It's like, amazing job. Ninety nine 519 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 2: point nine percent that pass was just stupid. I mean, 520 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 2: there was just plenty of different opportunities and the pass 521 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 2: was dumb, and green Bay probably shouldn't have covered this game. 522 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 2: Like you look at kind of the way both teams played, 523 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,919 Speaker 2: Chicago stayed in the game. You know, take it for 524 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 2: what you will, but that's the way I kind of 525 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 2: looked at it. The other thing I'll say is when 526 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 2: Craft went down for green Bay, I thought it would 527 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 2: have been a bigger issue, but I think adding Read 528 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 2: and still having just green Bay might have the best 529 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 2: array of weapons even with outcraft, because yet you know, 530 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 2: Golden's doing nothing, understood Musgrave doing his job. You have 531 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 2: Dobbs basically did nothing today. Like every week, I feel 532 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 2: like they can kind of pick one or two guys 533 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 2: and it's enough to get the win because their defense 534 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 2: kind of like Houston's, keeps them in the game, keeps 535 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 2: teams low. It's twenty points, it's eighteen points, it's twenty 536 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 2: one points. Usually that's what Green Bay does, and their 537 00:26:56,040 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 2: pass rush usually keeps them and usually does those. So 538 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 2: to me, that's the way I look at it. Also, 539 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 2: Toyota Thon, I mean, Jordan Love fantastic right three touchdown 540 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 2: passes one pick. So I call this the Jordan love Zone. 541 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 2: First ten weeks of the season twelve thirteen and one 542 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 2: straight up. He is now sixteen and seven week eleven on, 543 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 2: So we're about to turn on. Green Bay is about 544 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 2: to roll. They're gonna keep going their schedule. I just 545 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 2: looked at I used Tankathon just strength to schedule overall remaining. 546 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:30,880 Speaker 2: I thought Green Bays would be a little bit higher. 547 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 2: But obviously, you know, Baltimore and Minnesota at the end 548 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,919 Speaker 2: maybe not as good as represented in their record, but 549 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 2: at Denver at Chicago home, Baltimore at Minnesota. I mean, 550 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 2: if Minnesota still cares by that game, that's a little 551 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 2: bit of a tough one on the road in a 552 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 2: division opponent. If Green May would have lost this game, 553 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 2: that's a tough stretch. But I think at this point 554 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:57,400 Speaker 2: they could probably drop one of those games, maybe two 555 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 2: of those games, and be probably just fine in the 556 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 2: race US. So this was a big one for green Bay. 557 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, and they're favored in Denver next week. Denver the 558 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 4: current one seed. Green Bay is favored on the road there, 559 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 4: and I just checked my numbers. By my numbers, I 560 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 4: think green Bay will be favored by about the same 561 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 4: margin in Chicago as well, so they might be favored 562 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 4: even in those games. And granted they're favored by like 563 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 4: a point, but if you're favored by a point, effectively 564 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 4: we're saying, okay, you're close to coin flip. So can 565 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 4: you get one of those? Can you beat the Packers 566 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 4: or sorry, beat the Broncos or the Bears on the road. 567 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 4: By the numbers I checked, I have green Bay ninety 568 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 4: six percent to make the playoffs right now, so they're 569 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 4: in basically fifty eight percent for the division, which. 570 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: Obviously is the key here. 571 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 4: If they beat the Bears in no other Bear Chicago 572 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 4: game and sweep them, seventy three percent for the division, 573 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 4: so that one game is a pretty big swing for them. 574 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 4: They swept the Lions not as important as far as 575 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 4: typebreakers because they have the ties, so they won't be 576 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 4: any type breakers with Green Bay, but certainly just to 577 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 4: win for the Packers two losses for the Lions was big. 578 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 4: The Lions are only forty four percent for the playoffs. 579 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 4: We're not gonna talk about them because they played Thursday, 580 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 4: but they're at six percent for the division. So even 581 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 4: though they had what felt like this huge win, now 582 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 4: there's a whole Sunday of games, and the other NFC 583 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 4: teams all keep winning as well, the ones ahead of 584 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 4: the Lions at least. So yeah, still not great news 585 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 4: for the Lions. They've got work to do. This division. Packers, Bears, 586 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 4: Lions still looks like we only get two of the 587 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 4: three into the playoffs. I won all three, like, I 588 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 4: think they all belong in the playoffs. They've all earned 589 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 4: the status there. But the NFC probably has eight playoff teams. Well, 590 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 4: I guess to be fair, the NFC has seven playoff teams. 591 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 4: We just have to put an NFC South team in 592 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 4: the mix, like we talk about every single year. So 593 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 4: if you give one of the spots away, we got 594 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 4: one too many. And we have Niners, Seahawks, Rams, and 595 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 4: we have these three and you can't put three and 596 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 4: three from two divisions. The math doesn't math that way 597 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 4: for you. Even with the Cowboys, I've been with the 598 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 4: NFC side out of the mix. We can only have 599 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 4: five of those six teams, and I still think one 600 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 4: of these teams is gonna get cut. 601 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: So for all the good stuff we just said about 602 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: the Bears, rightfully, so this. 603 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 4: Might be the game we look back in a month 604 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 4: and say, man, if they could just got over the 605 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 4: line there, they wouldn't be missing the playoffs today. But 606 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 4: look where they are now, because it's gonna be tough 607 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 4: for Chicago even if they beat the Browns, they're not 608 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 4: in this yet. Like, they've got work to do. They've 609 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 4: got to get over the line still. And one of 610 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 4: these teams. I still think that Week eighteen Detroit Chicago game, 611 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be a knockout game. I think 612 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 4: that is a playoff game, and one of those teams 613 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 4: is gonna go home and. 614 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: Not deserve it. 615 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 4: Because one of those teams could go over into the 616 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 4: AFC and be like among the favorites. 617 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 1: But that's not how the bracket works. 618 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 2: I wonder if that game wasn't for the division, would 619 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 2: they put that at night, Like if that was a 620 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 2: complete knockout game, but green Bay had already been the 621 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 2: division champ, because usually that last game is for like 622 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 2: the Vision or something that's very clean. But I kind 623 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,719 Speaker 2: of agree. One other point, I just peaked at the spread. 624 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 2: Browns bear is seven and a half next week, So 625 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 2: if you're looking for the if you're looking for the 626 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 2: bounce back there that feels a little juicy on Cleveland side. 627 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 2: I mean, that's a game Chicago should win. But that 628 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 2: is a large number for. 629 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 4: A large number on like a forty point total, so 630 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 4: a really large number comparing the total there Week eighteen. 631 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 4: I think I was expecting Houston, India to be the 632 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 4: wake Week eighteen game, but probably not now that we'll 633 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 4: talk about Colts in a second, that they may not 634 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 4: really be in the picture by then. I believe Pittsburgh 635 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 4: Baltimore play Week eighteen, So probably that's our Sunday night 636 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 4: game because that's very likely still going to be for 637 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 4: the division. But yeah, Chicago Detroit with everything in the line, 638 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 4: would certainly if it does it. You know, they can 639 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 4: only give it to that to us. 640 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 1: If it's a true. 641 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 4: Knockout that doesn't impact the rest of the wild card 642 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 4: standings and everything, then they can do it. So the 643 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 4: Pittsburgh balt we'll probably be cleaner. 644 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 1: And the option. I wish we could bet on. 645 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 4: That sort of stuff, like you put pick the market 646 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 4: up DraftKings on which game will be the Week eighteen game. 647 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 4: I'd be putting some money on that one too. 648 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 2: That's a fun and listen if you could do highest 649 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 2: scoring game in a week or low, like you can 650 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 2: probably figure it out. Yeah, Matt Lafleur now twenty one 651 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 2: and four straight up in December eleven and one. He's 652 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 2: fantastic in this month, just like McVeigh. Those are the 653 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 2: two coaches. Both did well today. Both covered and bears 654 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 2: one in twelve straight up versus the Packers in the 655 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 2: last thirteen, two and eleven ats. They just can't seem 656 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 2: to figure out the pack All right, let's keep rolling here. 657 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 2: So Buffalo and the Bengals. Buffalo wins a game thirty 658 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 2: nine thirty four. Cincinnati covers the plus six on close. 659 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 2: Total goes over fifty four and a half again kind 660 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 2: of just barely. My first mark here is we had 661 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 2: a snow over in this game. Hashtag just stuck and 662 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 2: Raybond there. We had a bunch of snow and you 663 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 2: know what betters throughout the week, they didn't care less. 664 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 2: This total started about fifty one and a half. It 665 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 2: got bet up to fifty four and a half. I 666 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 2: even saw some fifty fives and it barely got there 667 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 2: thanks for that interceptions at the end for Burrow. But 668 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 2: this it was a little bit. It was a little 669 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 2: close there. So to me, this was and this is 670 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 2: maybe a little weird thing to say, and I'm curious 671 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 2: your opinion. This was one of the best games I 672 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 2: saw Josh Allen play, Like, I just kind of like, 673 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 2: you look at the numbers, twenty two to twenty eight, 674 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 2: three passing touchdowns, two fifty one, nine to seventy eight 675 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 2: on the ground, plus you got the rusting touchdown, which 676 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 2: was forty yards needed in the moment if you were clutching. 677 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 2: The fourth quarter, you kept the pressure on Cincinnati's defense. 678 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 2: It was a really bad start. I mean Buffalo is 679 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 2: three and ten first half ats this year. I mean 680 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 2: they have started bad all season. That's the worst mark 681 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 2: in the NFL. So what Josh Allen does is he's 682 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 2: good in the second half, and in the second half 683 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,479 Speaker 2: they ran the ball. He found some of his wide receivers. Again, 684 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 2: there's nobody there as good as anybody in Green Bay 685 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 2: in my opinion, between Shakir and Coleman, Like, he just 686 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 2: he found who we needed to find and the tight ends, 687 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 2: et cetera to get what he had to do done. 688 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 2: But there's just no major downfield threat ever in Buffalo, 689 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 2: and to me, it feels like they're vulnerable every single 690 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 2: week to just being in a mixed game. So I 691 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,839 Speaker 2: think their record right now and their position, I think 692 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 2: they're kind of lucky to be there. Like I'm not 693 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 2: the biggest fan of Buffalo, I think they get a 694 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 2: ton of respect. And one could be said about the line. 695 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 2: They're favored by one and a half in New England 696 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 2: next week. There's no more respect than that, you know, 697 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 2: after what we saw in Buffalo, they're now favored to 698 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:44,280 Speaker 2: beat them. It's a little strange, but again, it's Josh Allen, 699 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 2: it's the Bills, and it's the way the market. They 700 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 2: think the market's going to go. So I'm curious what 701 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 2: you think about that line and what you think about 702 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 2: this game. 703 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I saw that this was one of 704 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 4: Allen's highest EPA per past dropbacks that he's ever had 705 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 4: in his career, So I think that matches kind of 706 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,280 Speaker 4: what you were seeing. I had said coming into the game, 707 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 4: they don't need Josh Allen to be the MVP every game. 708 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 4: They can have James Cook be the MVP. Well turns 709 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 4: out no, Josh had to be the MVP today. James 710 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:12,919 Speaker 4: Cook fumbled twice into the end zone on the same 711 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 4: drive somehow and nearly cost them the game. Alan had 712 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 4: to be the MVP and look the part again it's 713 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 4: frankly so did Burrow. Like Burrow is awesome, another cover 714 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 4: as a three plus underdog. Here we are with the 715 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,880 Speaker 4: Bengals again where it's like, oh, man, you don't want 716 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 4: to play the Bengals right now. 717 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 2: Man. 718 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,799 Speaker 4: They get three touchdowns back to back to back to 719 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 4: start the game and then they somehow lose the game. 720 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 1: Anyway, Just this. 721 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,360 Speaker 4: Is every Bengals game and every Bengals season, over and 722 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 4: over and over again. 723 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:40,320 Speaker 1: It's also every. 724 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 4: Bengals game because Donkin Kid comes back four forty one 725 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 4: in a touchdown, Dawson Knox sicks for ninety three tight ends. 726 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 4: Just cook the Bengals every week. I'm so mad. I 727 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 4: had that in my notes as I wanted to play it, 728 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 4: but we don't know if Kaid was gonna play till 729 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 4: right before turns out. 730 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 1: You just play both of them, it doesn't matter. 731 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 4: Just play every tight end always against the Bengals because 732 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 4: they're just going to keep bleeding. But Burrow and the 733 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 4: offense ten of twelve on a third down of this 734 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 4: game one point five EPA per play, eighty three percent 735 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 4: success rate, Like that's insane. They were shredding this Buffalo defense, 736 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 4: so that I think that's what you're saying, is like 737 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 4: we know what Josh can do, and we know how 738 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,440 Speaker 4: they can run when it goes well, but look what 739 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,400 Speaker 4: the defense gave up in this game to the Bengals. 740 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 4: And the Bengals obviously have plenty to attack with. And 741 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 4: I know the snow kind of is the you know, 742 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 4: the great equalizer as somebody that grew up in North Dakota, 743 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 4: like this is the way the sport is meant to 744 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,799 Speaker 4: be played, Like this is awesome, and I love when 745 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 4: I'm now that I'm not in North Dakode anymore, I 746 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 4: love playing sports on snow, like that's the equalizer for me. 747 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 4: I'm still running full speed, man like on how to 748 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 4: play on snow is slow, and everyone else down They're 749 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 4: sliding all over. So I think that definitely changed the 750 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,320 Speaker 4: dynamic of this game, and you know, the snow ver 751 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 4: dynamic as well. But Buffalo's defense getting pushed around like 752 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,280 Speaker 4: this and getting scored on, so we certainly can't inspire 753 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 4: you too much. And then the big stretch of course, 754 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 4: late three touchdowns by a Buffalo and a four and 755 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,440 Speaker 4: a half minute stretch in the fourth quarter, so you 756 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,799 Speaker 4: talk about barely getting there to the snow over. They 757 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,800 Speaker 4: scored seventy three, so they went over by twenty points, 758 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 4: but they weren't going to until that little stretch where 759 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,399 Speaker 4: the bill suddenly looked like they were going to cover 760 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 4: the spread themselves too. Allen has the MVP forty yard 761 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 4: touchdown run. Then Christian Benford just like jumps and catches 762 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 4: a screen pass on a blitz that I think Burrow's 763 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 4: just trying to like loft over him and just didn't 764 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 4: get enough air under it. It's a weird looking to play. 765 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 4: That one play swung the win probability from Buffalo nineteen 766 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 4: percent to seventy five percent. So that is about as 767 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,279 Speaker 4: big as swing as you can get on one play. 768 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,360 Speaker 4: Not at the end of the game, Burrow had not 769 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 4: thrown a pick all season, obviously missed some time. Then 770 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 4: he throws picks on back to back plays because they 771 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,399 Speaker 4: get the pick six and then they get the ball back, 772 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,319 Speaker 4: of course, and the very next play another interception, another 773 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 4: quick touchdown from Buffalo. Season over for Cincinnati, Like it 774 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 4: just it was that fast that the Bengals are up ten. 775 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:06,359 Speaker 4: I think and suddenly that stretch rips off and that's it. 776 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 4: So yeah, the Bengals I think are done at this point, 777 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 4: except that the AFC North is still so bad that 778 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,760 Speaker 4: they're like kind of barely sort of alive just in case. 779 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:16,799 Speaker 1: In that mix. 780 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 4: T Higgins out with concussion for a couple of weeks, 781 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,439 Speaker 4: came back, left twice today for concussion check but kept 782 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 4: getting cleared. That's worrisome to me, Like, I don't know 783 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,839 Speaker 4: what's happening with that. We'll see if he's able to go. 784 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,440 Speaker 4: I guess we can't quite rite the obituary for Cincinnati 785 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:36,360 Speaker 4: given their division. But Buffalo I think that now is 786 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 4: their third win where it's been this wild shootout win 787 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 4: that they just barely get over the line. This is 788 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 4: the game that they lose in the playoffs, though, Like 789 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 4: these are the games they have and then Mahomes beats 790 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 4: them at the end or Burrow beats them at the 791 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 4: end or something like that, and you can't live this way, 792 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 4: maybe though, if you want to be the optimist, can 793 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:59,239 Speaker 4: you live last week with James Cook running thirty two 794 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 4: times on the steel? Can you win a couple of 795 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 4: those games? But then when it's not working, like this one, 796 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 4: or when you need a little more because the defense 797 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 4: isn't happening like this one. Now you let Josh put 798 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:13,879 Speaker 4: the cape on and go play Superman. Could you win 799 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,759 Speaker 4: two easy games with James Cook and let Josh be 800 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 4: Josh for the other two games rather than four? 801 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 1: Could he do it for like two of those or 802 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 1: one and at least get to the super Bowl? Okay? 803 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,880 Speaker 4: I can maybe buy that formula, especially in this year's AFC, 804 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 4: So maybe that's the hope. I just don't know if 805 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 4: Buffalo really knows when to do that or when not to. 806 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 4: And this should have been a game well you know, 807 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:39,880 Speaker 4: I was on James Cook over, so of course I 808 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:41,719 Speaker 4: think should but it should have been a game for 809 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 4: Cook and just running all over them, and they needed 810 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,239 Speaker 4: Allen to be Superman and he still can't. 811 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,959 Speaker 1: It turns out, Yeah, nine to four. 812 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:50,799 Speaker 2: They sit at the five seed right now, and a 813 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,359 Speaker 2: big game because they're at New England, as we talked 814 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 2: about next week. The week after, they're at Cleveland, which 815 00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 2: at Cleveland never the easiest thing to do, even though 816 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 2: I guess the Titans won there today and then they 817 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,480 Speaker 2: faced the Eagles. So at the end at home against 818 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,880 Speaker 2: the Jets, which pretty much an automatic win. But you 819 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 2: got to get to that Jet game, and you know, 820 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,239 Speaker 2: if today would have been a loss, there would have 821 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,719 Speaker 2: been some damn pressure there in the next few weeks. 822 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,319 Speaker 2: But I feel like a little bit, a little bit 823 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,759 Speaker 2: of that is off, even though that AFC field is 824 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:24,720 Speaker 2: still really, really, really tight and they have a massive 825 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,440 Speaker 2: division game coming up with New England, which would have 826 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,800 Speaker 2: mattered no matter what. But with the win, I feel 827 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 2: like it's a little bit of a different story. Obviously 828 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,320 Speaker 2: looking for revenge. That's gonna be the game of the 829 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,440 Speaker 2: week next week. A lot of big spreads, but to me, 830 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,200 Speaker 2: that's the one to look forward to. The other thing 831 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 2: and I saw this from next Gen Stats today, Christian 832 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,919 Speaker 2: Benford not only would the play but sixteen matchups against 833 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 2: Jamar Chase, two targets, zero receptions, one pick six. I 834 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,759 Speaker 2: mean t Higgins went off two touchdowns. He was all 835 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:58,560 Speaker 2: over the place. But that is a massively important job 836 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 2: for you know, one of the best receivers in the 837 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 2: game to kind of just eliminate him, which is really 838 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,799 Speaker 2: really helped in this one. But yeah, that's what I 839 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,480 Speaker 2: take here is the Bengals seem to lose the same 840 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 2: game every time. I believe they're four and seven when 841 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,279 Speaker 2: they score like thirty three plus points in the last 842 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 2: eleven games. Absolutely, truthfully, just ridiculous how this keeps happening. 843 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,800 Speaker 2: And Cincinnati's defense played a great first two and a 844 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 2: half quarters or so, like they were really keeping Buffalo 845 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 2: at bay. But Josh Allen's throws in this game, some 846 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 2: of those throws between defenders on the run, like he 847 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:39,840 Speaker 2: was an absolute magician. And that's why I said what 848 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:41,920 Speaker 2: I said. I feel like this was one of the 849 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 2: best all round games I've seen him play. 850 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, this was probably the most fun game of the 851 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,440 Speaker 4: day too. And then again, I'm a sucker for a 852 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 4: snow game. But just if that game is my aesthetic, 853 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,799 Speaker 4: you know, a shootout back and forth, two superstar quarterbacks. 854 00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,160 Speaker 4: Give us Bills Bengals out year, give it to us 855 00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 4: again in the playoffs, like if Buffalo loses out, just 856 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 4: put it on an exhibition. Give us like a Thursday night, 857 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 4: January Bills Bengals game. I'll watch it anyway. 858 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll love Vanderbilt if they would have gotten the 859 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:10,759 Speaker 2: game this week, and we might as well just throw 860 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,680 Speaker 2: Bills and Bengals out there, all right, My question for 861 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:17,360 Speaker 2: you is, if the interception doesn't happen the first Burrow interception, 862 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,839 Speaker 2: I feel like this game might go under. I feel 863 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 2: like that. Yeah, so that was kind of I think. 864 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:27,640 Speaker 4: The Bills still were slowly trending toward winning the game. 865 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 4: I don't think that the Bills cover either way, but 866 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:31,760 Speaker 4: I think it goes under. 867 00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:33,800 Speaker 1: But the Bills still look like they're. 868 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,319 Speaker 4: Gonna like they not that not a momentum thing, but 869 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,279 Speaker 4: it seemed like they had found some answers and we're 870 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,719 Speaker 4: pretty well in control there. But yeah, that swung in 871 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:42,040 Speaker 4: a hurry when that happened. 872 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you had mentioned in Cincinnati now thirteen to 873 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:49,280 Speaker 2: one to win the division, So still there but far away. 874 00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 2: All right, four games, we're gonna do some short recaps 875 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,239 Speaker 2: and then we're just gonna do scores, and then we're 876 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 2: gonna get to some bets. Pittsburgh Baltimore. Pittsburgh wins the 877 00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:01,760 Speaker 2: game twenty seven, two and a half point Dogs total 878 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,960 Speaker 2: goes over forty three and a half. Just another terrible 879 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 2: first half from the Ravens offensively, and that's kind of 880 00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,800 Speaker 2: the center of my notes because I feel like without 881 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:16,080 Speaker 2: that terrible start, there's a different finish. They get the 882 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,799 Speaker 2: touchdown right before the end of the half, but up 883 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:22,719 Speaker 2: to that point three total points, and they completely go 884 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,560 Speaker 2: away from the rushing attack, which I had heard people 885 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,879 Speaker 2: being like, hey, listen, if Derek Henry doesn't get twenty 886 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,399 Speaker 2: carries and this and that in this game, everyone's got 887 00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,520 Speaker 2: to be fired. Well, most of that didn't happen in 888 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 2: the first half, and then all of a sudden things 889 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,680 Speaker 2: started to change a little bit. Lamar started to run 890 00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,280 Speaker 2: in the second half, you started to give Henry more carries. 891 00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 2: Like I feel like somebody told somebody something in the 892 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,399 Speaker 2: locker room that turned this around, because starting the second half, 893 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,040 Speaker 2: a lot of these things were very different. Here's the 894 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,839 Speaker 2: stat where I'll give you the today's first half team 895 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 2: total for Baltimore was thirteen and a half. They score ten, 896 00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,600 Speaker 2: so they don't get there. Baltimore in thirteen games is 897 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:04,839 Speaker 2: one twelve to their first half team total. Absolutely ridiculous, 898 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,759 Speaker 2: like penally ridiculous to have that quarterback that run game 899 00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:12,440 Speaker 2: and go over your first half team total once, Like, 900 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,040 Speaker 2: you can't win games that way if you're just gonna 901 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:18,240 Speaker 2: be trailing or not scoring in the first two quarters 902 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:22,560 Speaker 2: of every damn game. So something has to change there. 903 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,680 Speaker 2: But if you look at the final score, you look 904 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,319 Speaker 2: at the box I'll give you the numbers. Baltimore does 905 00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:31,720 Speaker 2: end with forty Russi attempts for two hundred and seventeen yards. 906 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:33,719 Speaker 2: So if you just look at the box score, you 907 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,360 Speaker 2: literally have no idea what I'm talking about. But I 908 00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,919 Speaker 2: promise you it didn't look that way the entire way. 909 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,560 Speaker 2: And then you look at the other side. Pittsburgh wins 910 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,800 Speaker 2: the game, but seventeen for thirty four on the ground, 911 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,759 Speaker 2: like very different styles. There were some wacky interceptions, there 912 00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:53,600 Speaker 2: were some whacky non interceptions with the Rogers play, but overall, 913 00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:58,200 Speaker 2: I'll just say this, Pittsburgh looked efficient. No turnovers, no 914 00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,719 Speaker 2: sacks on Rogers when both those things happen. Gonna be 915 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,799 Speaker 2: hard to beat Pittsburgh under Tomlin when they don't turn 916 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,720 Speaker 2: over the ball thirty nine and five straight up, thirty 917 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:11,680 Speaker 2: seven and seven against the spread, like ridiculous, and that's 918 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,640 Speaker 2: Tomlin ball. Like it's hard to beat them when they 919 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:15,359 Speaker 2: don't mess up. 920 00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, I had coming into this game. I had Steelers 921 00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,120 Speaker 4: trends sixteen to one, which is like the biggest trends 922 00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,239 Speaker 4: landslide I've ever seen in my beat labs, and I 923 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,480 Speaker 4: still didn't take the Steelers because I was like, man, 924 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,360 Speaker 4: I don't know, I think the Tomlin voodoo might finally 925 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,479 Speaker 4: be dead. It only happened like three of the last 926 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,320 Speaker 4: nine games that they'd actually covered. And you know, we 927 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,600 Speaker 4: love the underdog in this matchup is like my favorite 928 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,760 Speaker 4: trend in all of football. I just bet it blind 929 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:45,000 Speaker 4: every year. I still didn't do it. Apparently, just do 930 00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,640 Speaker 4: it like it's it's not dead until they put dirt 931 00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,400 Speaker 4: on the grave, I guess, because look, the Ravens were 932 00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:51,680 Speaker 4: the better team in this game. 933 00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,680 Speaker 1: You mentioned like the weird wonky bounces or whatever. Yeah, 934 00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,840 Speaker 1: that's what happens in this stupid. 935 00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,560 Speaker 4: Rivalry for the Steelers every time you just take the 936 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:03,400 Speaker 4: underd I thought the Ravens were the better team. They 937 00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,279 Speaker 4: had over one hundred yards more offense, they had nine 938 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,879 Speaker 4: more first downs. Out of the story was red zone. 939 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:09,640 Speaker 4: They lost the game in the red zone. They moved 940 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,280 Speaker 4: the ball, they got to the red zone. They cannot 941 00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:13,800 Speaker 4: score in the red zone. That has been a problem 942 00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,200 Speaker 4: all season for them, and for a while they were 943 00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,080 Speaker 4: two of six in the red zone. First drive of 944 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:22,200 Speaker 4: the game, long good Baltimore drive settle for a field 945 00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,480 Speaker 4: goal in the red zone. That's where it started, that's 946 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,600 Speaker 4: where it ended. Fourth quarter, two field goals in the 947 00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:31,680 Speaker 4: red zone. Then to end the game, twelve plays, seventy yards. 948 00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,680 Speaker 4: You get down to the eight turnover and downs in 949 00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:38,040 Speaker 4: the red zone. They cannot convert in the red zone 950 00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,759 Speaker 4: and they lose by five. You get one touchdown out 951 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:42,840 Speaker 4: of there, and it's a different story. And they're the 952 00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,719 Speaker 4: better team. They had the better numbers here when you 953 00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,680 Speaker 4: see all those little like fancy charts on Twitter, were 954 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:50,600 Speaker 4: we the better team that the Ravens are going to 955 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,000 Speaker 4: be ahead, I promise you on any of those metrics. 956 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,440 Speaker 4: But Mike Tomlins got the voodoo and did it again. 957 00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,360 Speaker 4: And you said the Ravens shouldn't look this way with 958 00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:03,560 Speaker 4: Lamar j Well do they have Lamar Jackson, Because here's 959 00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,400 Speaker 4: a number. Since he came back in Week nine, Lamar 960 00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:10,480 Speaker 4: has a negative EPA per play since returning, an EPA 961 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,640 Speaker 4: plus completetion number expected. He ranks twenty fourth out of 962 00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:15,759 Speaker 4: thirty first in quarterbacks. 963 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:15,760 Speaker 1: In that span. 964 00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,160 Speaker 4: Just for a reference, here are his peers in that list, 965 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:23,760 Speaker 4: Gino Smith, Bowen, Nixon, cam Ward. That's what Lamar Jackson 966 00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,360 Speaker 4: is right now. The only solace if you're a Ravens 967 00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,360 Speaker 4: fan is the guy dead last on that list is 968 00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,160 Speaker 4: the other quarterback in this game, Aaron Rodgers. So it's 969 00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,640 Speaker 4: not like Pittsburgh's gonna run away with this thing. Although 970 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,920 Speaker 4: right now, Steelers are about two thirds likely to win 971 00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:41,839 Speaker 4: the division if they just win that Week eighteen Baltimore game. 972 00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,400 Speaker 4: Everything else before that doesn't matter. Beat Baltimore, they go 973 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:49,160 Speaker 4: ninety eight percent. Like that game is now one thousand 974 00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,640 Speaker 4: percent must win for Baltimore. But if they win that 975 00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,240 Speaker 4: one right now, the Ravens are about thirty one percent 976 00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,800 Speaker 4: to win the division. That's their only path in now. 977 00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:00,520 Speaker 4: If they beat Pittsburgh, even just that one game, they 978 00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,480 Speaker 4: go fifty six percent. So this was the huge leverage 979 00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:07,399 Speaker 4: game today all likelihood, that's still gonna be the huge 980 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,879 Speaker 4: leverage game in Week eighteen. That's why that's probably gonna 981 00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,560 Speaker 4: be that Sunday night game. But Baltimore's got work to 982 00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,960 Speaker 4: do before that. They go at the Bengals next week, 983 00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,560 Speaker 4: who we just talked a lot about, then Patriots, then 984 00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,400 Speaker 4: at Packers. They might not get to the Steelers game 985 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,719 Speaker 4: and still be alive if they're not careful here. The 986 00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:27,520 Speaker 4: way that they're playing Bengals, Patriots, Packers. Guess what they 987 00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,840 Speaker 4: got the worst quarterback in all three of those games, 988 00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,080 Speaker 4: the way that Lamar Jackson's playing right now, And I 989 00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:35,040 Speaker 4: don't think it's close right now. So if they can't 990 00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,200 Speaker 4: get something better and their defense looked much more like 991 00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,959 Speaker 4: early season Ravens today than the one that we thought 992 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,360 Speaker 4: was getting better, there are a lot of problems with 993 00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,840 Speaker 4: the Ravens right now. I almost feel like like a 994 00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:50,680 Speaker 4: mercy killing to their season might be a kinder ending 995 00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:52,839 Speaker 4: than this, like fake hope of what. 996 00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:54,000 Speaker 1: The Ravens should be. 997 00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,920 Speaker 4: It's not happening, man, Like it's not there in this 998 00:48:58,040 --> 00:48:59,759 Speaker 4: game against a Steelers team that. 999 00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,880 Speaker 1: Like, can we just give up both of them? Like 1000 00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,320 Speaker 1: put the Bengals in at least they're interesting. 1001 00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,560 Speaker 4: We don't want to see both these teams make us sad, 1002 00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:10,560 Speaker 4: like they both seem like they need to go, but 1003 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,359 Speaker 4: they couldn't both lose today, so the Steelers had to win. 1004 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,239 Speaker 1: I guess that's the takeaway. 1005 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess my question back to you would be, 1006 00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,200 Speaker 2: what do we think the problem with Lamar is? Like 1007 00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:24,960 Speaker 2: he's hurt, he's been hurt, he was hurt, But I 1008 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,280 Speaker 2: feel like first half Lamar in this game and second 1009 00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:30,080 Speaker 2: half Lamar were different quarterbacks. Like even when he was 1010 00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:33,279 Speaker 2: running in the second half, I saw him run and 1011 00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,799 Speaker 2: I said to myself, well, this wasn't Lamar I'm used to. 1012 00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,760 Speaker 2: This wasn't the Lamar from two years ago. Like there's 1013 00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:44,000 Speaker 2: a step missing now. That could be he's getting a 1014 00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,800 Speaker 2: little older. I'll say that very quietly. But that also 1015 00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:50,200 Speaker 2: could be that. That also could be he's injured. So 1016 00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:53,200 Speaker 2: there's different ways to attack this. But I do feel 1017 00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:56,080 Speaker 2: like something clicked in the second half that was like, 1018 00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,920 Speaker 2: f this, like I gotta do something, like we gotta go. 1019 00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:04,200 Speaker 2: And I also felt like it was Keaton Mitchell, it 1020 00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,520 Speaker 2: was Derek Henn. Like they did a little bit of 1021 00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:10,360 Speaker 2: a better job having a more balanced offense. It seemed 1022 00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,480 Speaker 2: like there was a connection there which hadn't been. There 1023 00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,200 Speaker 2: was a Flowers which looked good today and now some 1024 00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,279 Speaker 2: of that can be Pittsburgh Secondary. There's a lot of 1025 00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,719 Speaker 2: things kind of going on there in this game. But 1026 00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,800 Speaker 2: I'll say turning the page to Pittsburgh for one second. 1027 00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:29,360 Speaker 2: Next week, Miami at home on Monday Night football. Pittsburgh 1028 00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:33,000 Speaker 2: does unbelievable historically on Monday Night football, especially at home. 1029 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:36,560 Speaker 2: I believe twenty two to one ridiculous numbers under Tomlin. 1030 00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:40,759 Speaker 2: But this is a white hot Miami Dolphin team, Like 1031 00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,120 Speaker 2: this is a This is a Dolphin team that is 1032 00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,840 Speaker 2: rolling through bad teams and then all of a sudden 1033 00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:49,799 Speaker 2: is going to face a bad team, mediocre team like 1034 00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:53,360 Speaker 2: Miami's in this game. So this is a to me. 1035 00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:57,160 Speaker 2: With Baltimore going to Sincy and Pittsburgh having this Miami game, 1036 00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,120 Speaker 2: this is a big game for Pittsburgh because if they 1037 00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,080 Speaker 2: happen to, you know, drop this game that they're favored in, 1038 00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,719 Speaker 2: they go at Detroit and at Cleveland before that Baltimore game. 1039 00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,359 Speaker 2: So this is a big one for Pittsburgh. And if 1040 00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,960 Speaker 2: you look at playoff odds, divisions, et cetera, all the 1041 00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,600 Speaker 2: odds will match each other because neither of these teams 1042 00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,839 Speaker 2: are doing anything without winning the division. But you still 1043 00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:19,680 Speaker 2: gotta win games, like you still got to match up 1044 00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:24,040 Speaker 2: with each other. Now, granted, because of the situation they 1045 00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,640 Speaker 2: face each other and this this and that, like going 1046 00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,160 Speaker 2: one game either way kind of doesn't matter, right, Like 1047 00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:32,120 Speaker 2: if you're one game up, that last game kind of 1048 00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:35,759 Speaker 2: decides it anyway. But their schedules are kind of fascinating 1049 00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:37,680 Speaker 2: to end the year they are. 1050 00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,279 Speaker 4: And again we just talked about the Bengals, but man, 1051 00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,560 Speaker 4: the Bengals would be so interesting right now if they 1052 00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,319 Speaker 4: had just finished the job in Buffalo and gotten the win, 1053 00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,279 Speaker 4: they'd be I think only one game back now and 1054 00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:51,400 Speaker 4: just like very much in the mix because every schedule 1055 00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,040 Speaker 4: game we read for both Ravens and Steelers, like, man, 1056 00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:55,000 Speaker 4: they could lose that one. 1057 00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:56,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, they could lose that one too. 1058 00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,120 Speaker 4: It's like this division is gonna just keep being a 1059 00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:02,000 Speaker 4: conversation everyone because none of these teams are good enough 1060 00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:02,680 Speaker 4: to run away with it. 1061 00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:03,560 Speaker 1: Lamar. 1062 00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:05,839 Speaker 4: I do think it's just a lot of injuries right now. 1063 00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:07,920 Speaker 4: Like to be clear, when I say that those three 1064 00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,360 Speaker 4: teams are the clearly better quarterback, I'm saying compared to 1065 00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:13,880 Speaker 4: right now. The Lamar right now is not the usual Lamar. 1066 00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:16,319 Speaker 4: I'm not making a career statement about him. I will 1067 00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:19,640 Speaker 4: make plenty of those other times. Right now, he's not Lamar. 1068 00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:21,880 Speaker 4: I think it's just a lot of injuries. He's missed 1069 00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,439 Speaker 4: at least want to practice I think every week since 1070 00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,279 Speaker 4: returning just doesn't look right. I got a lot of 1071 00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,239 Speaker 4: questions about Todd Munkin too. We give him a lot 1072 00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,399 Speaker 4: of credit Proba good. The offense has been the last 1073 00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,600 Speaker 4: couple of years. I just feel like he has a 1074 00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,200 Speaker 4: plan of how to beat you and hasn't had a 1075 00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,520 Speaker 4: lot of Plan B and C options for this team. 1076 00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:41,960 Speaker 4: And I have not been impressed with what else can 1077 00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,239 Speaker 4: you come up with? Where Derrick Henry isn't quite what 1078 00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,120 Speaker 4: he was and Lamar isn't quite what he was. You've 1079 00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,880 Speaker 4: got this optimized plan for when things are looking great, 1080 00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:52,360 Speaker 4: but what are your backup options? And I haven't been 1081 00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:55,520 Speaker 4: impressed with what Monkins come up with. And yeah, the 1082 00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:59,680 Speaker 4: Steelers did enough to hold them in check. And you 1083 00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:01,719 Speaker 4: mentioned the Monday night game next week just for a 1084 00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:02,360 Speaker 4: little preview. 1085 00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:03,360 Speaker 1: We're moving that way. 1086 00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:06,040 Speaker 4: We'll get to our Monday preview in a little bet, 1087 00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:09,080 Speaker 4: but I'll be getting to the Steelers Dolphins game you 1088 00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,120 Speaker 4: mentioned in Hot Red as well in the bet. 1089 00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:15,160 Speaker 2: We also are looking at one of the more fascinating 1090 00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:20,799 Speaker 2: AFC offseasons. If the Bengals Chiefs Ravens don't make the playoffs, 1091 00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:24,040 Speaker 2: like changes are coming. And I think the Monkin thing 1092 00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:28,919 Speaker 2: is interesting because Baltimore's offense at times looks absolutely dead, 1093 00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:33,120 Speaker 2: and that is something on the coordinator and to before 1094 00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:35,640 Speaker 2: we move on to the next game, I'll reiterate the 1095 00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:37,520 Speaker 2: stats since two thousand and five, the dog in the 1096 00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:40,640 Speaker 2: series is now thirty and twelve against the spread in 1097 00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,320 Speaker 2: the regular season when the lines three or more, twenty 1098 00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,880 Speaker 2: six and five against the spread, and regular season the 1099 00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:52,319 Speaker 2: underdog when Tomlin faces Hardball twenty five and seven patently ridiculous. 1100 00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:53,600 Speaker 2: Anything else. 1101 00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,560 Speaker 4: When we did our best Bets episode, I literally had 1102 00:53:56,719 --> 00:54:00,440 Speaker 4: Steelers ats Steelers, money line Steelers Division my last one, 1103 00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:04,680 Speaker 4: and I had time, and I just I couldn't talk 1104 00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:05,600 Speaker 4: myself into it. 1105 00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:07,920 Speaker 1: I knew the trend, it's my favorite trend. 1106 00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:09,680 Speaker 4: I knew we would be talking about it, and I 1107 00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,520 Speaker 4: just I couldn't get there because I stared at it. 1108 00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:14,719 Speaker 4: I didn't like the matchup. I didn't like some of 1109 00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,759 Speaker 4: the personnel groupings. It just didn't look right. And we 1110 00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,480 Speaker 4: talked with this the best best episode that here, I 1111 00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:22,120 Speaker 4: am betting matchups, not trends. 1112 00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:25,319 Speaker 1: Well, guess what if you just bet Steelers. 1113 00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:28,799 Speaker 4: Versus Ravens underdog, Jacksonville versus the Colts, because it's all 1114 00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:32,400 Speaker 4: as them Burrow as an underdog. Like all the trends 1115 00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:34,160 Speaker 4: just hit today, I could have just skipped the prep 1116 00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:36,240 Speaker 4: for the entire week and just bet the same trends 1117 00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:39,040 Speaker 4: I bet every other time. This was like the trendiest 1118 00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:42,480 Speaker 4: Sunday in a while. Cassandra Future in the comments says, 1119 00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:46,440 Speaker 4: there's a Pittsburgh minus three minus one twenty at DraftKings. 1120 00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:49,279 Speaker 4: It's not a Tomlin number or spot. But are we 1121 00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:52,720 Speaker 4: really buying the Dolphins? I will say this, speaking of trends, 1122 00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,239 Speaker 4: I have a trend in the system of Steelers after 1123 00:54:56,320 --> 00:55:00,400 Speaker 4: beating the Ravens, Steelers after losing the Ravens, and basically 1124 00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:03,560 Speaker 4: what you want is you want the bounce back and 1125 00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,680 Speaker 4: you don't want the letdown spot. When they lose to 1126 00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,319 Speaker 4: the Ravens, they're really good the next week. When they 1127 00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:11,719 Speaker 4: beat the Ravens, they often have a letdown spot the 1128 00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,399 Speaker 4: next week. I think it's like a two thirds cover 1129 00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,440 Speaker 4: rate or two thirds covered against rate in either spot. 1130 00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:21,000 Speaker 4: So it will be interesting. They can be very Steelers 1131 00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:24,160 Speaker 4: to get an ugly Cagy win that they still get 1132 00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,359 Speaker 4: over the line with but don't cover a spread there. 1133 00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:29,040 Speaker 4: So yeah, I guess maybe I'm giving away a bit 1134 00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,080 Speaker 4: of the hot read angle, but I will not be 1135 00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:32,200 Speaker 4: on a side in that one. 1136 00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:33,719 Speaker 1: We'll be going a different direction when. 1137 00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,759 Speaker 2: We get there. Yeah, I think we all know. All right, 1138 00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:40,880 Speaker 2: let's keep going here. Jacksonville wins thirty six to nineteen 1139 00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:43,880 Speaker 2: against the Colts, covers the plus two and a half 1140 00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:46,640 Speaker 2: on the close till it goes over forty three and 1141 00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:50,120 Speaker 2: a half. Sorry, here is, unfortunately, something we've kind of 1142 00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:53,280 Speaker 2: been teasing throughout the show, Daniel Jones's injury. I believe 1143 00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:57,319 Speaker 2: Achilles stare is what was the news. You could tell 1144 00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:00,480 Speaker 2: he knew actually right away by how mad he was 1145 00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:04,880 Speaker 2: throwing the helmet pissed off. Also, for everybody who watches 1146 00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:09,279 Speaker 2: football out there, when you get hurt and it's not 1147 00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:13,120 Speaker 2: caused by someone else, the non contact it's always worse. 1148 00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:16,279 Speaker 2: Like I always feel like the contact injuries for some 1149 00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:21,120 Speaker 2: reason just aren't as brutal long term. And when you're 1150 00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,320 Speaker 2: kind of doing it on your own with the fractured fibula, 1151 00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:27,120 Speaker 2: it was just really really bad. And if you're looking 1152 00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:30,359 Speaker 2: at next year, and who knows the situation next year, 1153 00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:34,200 Speaker 2: But he's right up against the week one timeline probably 1154 00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:37,480 Speaker 2: with the tear, so we will see big offseason ahead. 1155 00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:40,000 Speaker 2: But and Daniel Jones done for the year now, I 1156 00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:43,479 Speaker 2: think the question is you've gottenn eight and five Colts team, 1157 00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:47,799 Speaker 2: and you've got Riley Leonard. I would guess. I mean 1158 00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:52,200 Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson's still sitting on IR with a orbital bone 1159 00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:53,760 Speaker 2: towel injury. 1160 00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:58,959 Speaker 4: I just wore a game from a resistance snapping into 1161 00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,680 Speaker 4: his face. That's where ran on the Anthony Richardson experience. 1162 00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:05,279 Speaker 2: By the way, Yeah, probably his best completion percentage as 1163 00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:09,040 Speaker 2: well as during that banned exercise. But all I'll say 1164 00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:12,680 Speaker 2: is this, the Colts have to probably turn around and 1165 00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,640 Speaker 2: figure something out to do because you need someone who 1166 00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:19,120 Speaker 2: understands the playbook. You're on a short week here, and 1167 00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:21,439 Speaker 2: not only a short week, you're on a short week 1168 00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:23,640 Speaker 2: in the sense that you're going to Seattle. So you're 1169 00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:28,160 Speaker 2: going to one of the more complete teams in the NFL. Real, real, 1170 00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,840 Speaker 2: nasty defense and one of the best white Like it's 1171 00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:35,760 Speaker 2: just not the situation you'd want to go into, especially 1172 00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:40,440 Speaker 2: as Seattle. Then you've got San Francisco, Jacksonville at Houston. 1173 00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:43,400 Speaker 2: Strength to schedule. It is the toughest in the NFL 1174 00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,240 Speaker 2: entering this week and the toughest in the NFL entering 1175 00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:48,920 Speaker 2: next week. Like nothing will change because all four of 1176 00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:53,200 Speaker 2: those teams are absolutely rolling right now, so the timing 1177 00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,480 Speaker 2: could not be worse. And also just if you want 1178 00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:58,240 Speaker 2: to take a step back here, it's kind of sad 1179 00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:02,439 Speaker 2: like Ballor decides to go in, you get Sauce gets hurt, 1180 00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:06,560 Speaker 2: like everything seemed to have gone wrong with the right 1181 00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:10,920 Speaker 2: moves to try to contend this year. And from the 1182 00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:15,280 Speaker 2: Colts standpoint, I think it's over. Like I just don't see. 1183 00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:18,480 Speaker 2: I mean, Russell Wilson, like, what are your options right 1184 00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:21,320 Speaker 2: now in terms of trying to find somebody to run 1185 00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:24,560 Speaker 2: the offense? And Riley Leonard listen, eighteen to twenty nine 1186 00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:28,120 Speaker 2: hit a rushing touchdown through interscith like it wasn't awful, 1187 00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:31,720 Speaker 2: but he's not winning any of those games. So I 1188 00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:34,840 Speaker 2: think Stichen and the whole crew need to figure out 1189 00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:35,760 Speaker 2: a plan right now. 1190 00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you maybe hope to get Joe Flacco, 1191 00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:42,520 Speaker 4: like with the Bengals, let Joe Flacco go because Broil's 1192 00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:45,280 Speaker 4: back and Flacco is You're gonna be familiar with the offense. 1193 00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:47,400 Speaker 4: Like I think that's the hope, But I'm not sure 1194 00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:49,880 Speaker 4: why the Bengals would let him go. I guess it's 1195 00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:52,480 Speaker 4: not really an AFC arrival like the Bengals aren't competing 1196 00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:54,600 Speaker 4: for the same spot as the Colts, but they would 1197 00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:56,320 Speaker 4: maybe have to face them in a playoff game if 1198 00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:56,680 Speaker 4: they're there. 1199 00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:59,280 Speaker 1: I don't know why they would let that happen. I'd 1200 00:58:59,280 --> 00:58:59,520 Speaker 1: love to. 1201 00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,400 Speaker 4: See James, you know, he's doing nothing these days, Like 1202 00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:05,120 Speaker 4: I'd love to see that in the offense. But I 1203 00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:08,280 Speaker 4: agree Riley Leonard didn't look terrible, but it's still a 1204 00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:10,440 Speaker 4: rookie that's not supposed to be out there. He's the 1205 00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:13,000 Speaker 4: only Notre Dame left play in this season. But probably 1206 00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:16,600 Speaker 4: not good news in Indiana on either direction there. I 1207 00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:20,400 Speaker 4: think also for Jonathan Taylor offensive player of the year 1208 00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:23,680 Speaker 4: status in big trouble now. Jayson had a huge game 1209 00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:26,960 Speaker 4: today and look, frankly, this is why running backs are 1210 00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:32,120 Speaker 4: not MVPs because the quarterback getting hurt can destroy a team. 1211 00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:35,160 Speaker 4: Where Jonathan Taylor getting hurt and possibly being out a 1212 00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:37,000 Speaker 4: while to be like, all right, well the Colts are 1213 00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:39,200 Speaker 4: gonna be quite what the usual identity is, but we'll 1214 00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:42,280 Speaker 4: see what Daniel Jones can do. No like Daniel Jones out. 1215 00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:45,800 Speaker 4: It's cooked like it's done now. The Colts, by the odds, 1216 00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:47,800 Speaker 4: are basically a coin flip to make the playoffs, but 1217 00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:51,240 Speaker 4: the odds are not factory in the quarterback situation. Jacksonville 1218 00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:54,280 Speaker 4: now ninety six percent, so they're basically in still the 1219 00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:57,080 Speaker 4: division up for grabs, but it feels like the division's 1220 00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:58,920 Speaker 4: up for grabs between the two other teams now not 1221 00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:02,880 Speaker 4: the Colts meeymore like Houston and Jacksonville just vuying for 1222 01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:05,840 Speaker 4: probably both in the playoffs, but which one's gonna get 1223 01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:09,120 Speaker 4: the home game into the playoffs. The game myself not 1224 01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:12,840 Speaker 4: super interesting basically is the quarterback injury. But I agree, 1225 01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,760 Speaker 4: I only the Colts are done, but I don't know 1226 01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:18,320 Speaker 4: that they have a lot of options here. They almost like, 1227 01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:22,440 Speaker 4: if I'm them, I'm not winning in Seattle with this situation, 1228 01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:26,919 Speaker 4: either with Riley Leonard or whatever veteran quarterback. Like, I'm 1229 01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:30,480 Speaker 4: almost just punting that game. Rest some guys and get 1230 01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:33,120 Speaker 4: a healthy take the second bye week, and get whatever 1231 01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:36,000 Speaker 4: my quarterback is. If it's gonna be Riley, get him 1232 01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:38,080 Speaker 4: out there and give him a shot to learn on 1233 01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:40,440 Speaker 4: the go. If it's gonna be a veteran, go get 1234 01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:43,480 Speaker 4: him this week, and you like use that game to 1235 01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:45,520 Speaker 4: be like, all right, we're probably not gonna win this game. 1236 01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:46,520 Speaker 1: Let's take a shot. 1237 01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:49,160 Speaker 4: But let's use that as a get right spot to 1238 01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:51,840 Speaker 4: get some injuries healthy, and let's try to figure out 1239 01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,640 Speaker 4: the quarterback spot because we're gonna have three more tries 1240 01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:57,040 Speaker 4: after that to make a push. And they don't need 1241 01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:59,960 Speaker 4: to beat Seattle. That's a non conference, they're ten points. 1242 01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:04,000 Speaker 4: It's probably not gonna happen. So can they steal a 1243 01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:07,960 Speaker 4: couple of games after that? And I guess too do like, well, 1244 01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:10,280 Speaker 4: what's even the point, Like can they do that to 1245 01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:13,439 Speaker 4: steal a playoff spot? And like, ruin our first game 1246 01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:16,360 Speaker 4: on a Saturday playoff is basically really asking like nobody 1247 01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:19,480 Speaker 4: really wants this anymore. And it's just a bumber for 1248 01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:21,880 Speaker 4: the Colts because they went from the story of the 1249 01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:25,640 Speaker 4: season September October and the huge trade of the deadline 1250 01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:28,200 Speaker 4: and it just couldn't really have gone any worse at 1251 01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:30,920 Speaker 4: those point for them, and it sucks. It's a huge bumber, 1252 01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:33,480 Speaker 4: And yeah, there's just not much more to it. 1253 01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:36,640 Speaker 2: I love the idea of Jamis. I hadn't thought of 1254 01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:38,360 Speaker 2: that since I was watching him on Fox that I 1255 01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:40,840 Speaker 2: forgot he wasn't retired. But I do love the I 1256 01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:42,840 Speaker 2: do love the idea of Jamis the One thing I 1257 01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:46,560 Speaker 2: will say about this game. It was pretty one sided 1258 01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:49,360 Speaker 2: and boring, but it really did turn on the game 1259 01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:52,840 Speaker 2: on the Jonathan Taylor fumble, Like I feel like after 1260 01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:55,440 Speaker 2: DJ gets hurt, if he doesn't fumble that ball, I mean, 1261 01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:57,760 Speaker 2: is there a chance they maybe stay in the game 1262 01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:00,479 Speaker 2: a little bit more versus this being a tiny point 1263 01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:05,440 Speaker 2: game the majority of the time. Possibly, But historically I'll 1264 01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:07,600 Speaker 2: give you this one as well. Colts have always struggled 1265 01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:10,600 Speaker 2: in this matchup now three and seventeen ats versus the 1266 01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:14,600 Speaker 2: Jags since twenty fifteen one in ten in Jacksonville. So 1267 01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:18,720 Speaker 2: rough all around, and the other thing, you know, having 1268 01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:21,000 Speaker 2: Daniel Jones doing the play action and kind of what 1269 01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:22,919 Speaker 2: was in the motion and the things that we're really 1270 01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:26,680 Speaker 2: making this offense go well. Since the Colts went forty 1271 01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:29,840 Speaker 2: one of three to twenty three in Berlin on the ground, 1272 01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:32,560 Speaker 2: they have a three game losing streak and they've gone 1273 01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:35,920 Speaker 2: twenty six of eighty nine, nineteen to fifty five, and 1274 01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:38,400 Speaker 2: nineteen to seventy four on the ground. You were talking 1275 01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:41,240 Speaker 2: about Jonathan Taylor, who's now the third option to win 1276 01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:45,200 Speaker 2: Offensive Player of the Year behind Nijigba at minus three seventy. 1277 01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:48,600 Speaker 2: Jamior Gibbs at six to one and Jonathan Taylor at 1278 01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:52,320 Speaker 2: plus eight point fifty. So these three weeks tanking the 1279 01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:56,360 Speaker 2: Colts and tanking the awards for this team, we will 1280 01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:59,200 Speaker 2: see how it goes. But the story here is the 1281 01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:03,640 Speaker 2: Jacksonville Jaars. Like they win the game, They've still got 1282 01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:08,000 Speaker 2: at Indie and versus Tennessee on their schedule, and they've 1283 01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:10,880 Speaker 2: got the Jets this week. So I don't even really 1284 01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:14,240 Speaker 2: care that Jacksonville has to go to Denver after the Jets. 1285 01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:17,040 Speaker 2: They have those three games still in the schedule. The 1286 01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:19,680 Speaker 2: Jacksonville Jaguars are in the playoffs like they're gonna be 1287 01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:22,680 Speaker 2: there because they're they're just gonna win those games. Like 1288 01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:26,400 Speaker 2: even I don't I don't really see how Liam Cohen 1289 01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:30,880 Speaker 2: screws that up. The Jets aren't competitive, and if I'll 1290 01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:33,760 Speaker 2: say this, if you look at the spreads this week, 1291 01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:36,960 Speaker 2: next week may not be the most competitive games you've 1292 01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:39,000 Speaker 2: ever seen in your life. We have about like five 1293 01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:42,960 Speaker 2: or six double digit favorites like the slates and really insane. 1294 01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:47,840 Speaker 2: But just focusing on Jacksonville, the defense is nasty. The 1295 01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:51,040 Speaker 2: offense is just questionable, and that's all I can really say. 1296 01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:54,120 Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence is the absolute roller coaster. I'm I don't 1297 01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:58,920 Speaker 2: see consistency week to week. It just feels like you 1298 01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:02,160 Speaker 2: don't like maybe this is part of we thought he 1299 01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:05,360 Speaker 2: had a number one wide receiver in BTJ, and BTJ 1300 01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:08,360 Speaker 2: continues to let all of us down and them down. 1301 01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:12,320 Speaker 2: There's drops. He's not getting as much separation. I just 1302 01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:15,040 Speaker 2: to me, I think the offense week to week is 1303 01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:18,480 Speaker 2: very questionable because I think there was so much conversation 1304 01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:24,040 Speaker 2: around Travis Hunter that once he disappeared, Jacoby Myers fantastic. 1305 01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:27,040 Speaker 2: That was a great acquisition because he's been great there. 1306 01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:29,880 Speaker 2: But other than that, it's been just kind of question 1307 01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:30,760 Speaker 2: marks week to week. 1308 01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:34,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean credit for Trevor Lawrence is kind of 1309 01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:36,480 Speaker 4: like a rainy game, and that normally has been like 1310 01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:40,640 Speaker 4: his nightmares. So at least he was a non factor today, 1311 01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:42,800 Speaker 4: which is better than he normally is in those sort 1312 01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:46,280 Speaker 4: of games. But yeah, it's very unreliable there. I'm still 1313 01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:50,160 Speaker 4: not really I'm a whelmed at best by Jacksonville. I'm 1314 01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:54,160 Speaker 4: looking at my power ratings right now, I have Jacksonville still. 1315 01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:57,720 Speaker 4: I have them nineteenth right now, so they might they're 1316 01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:00,080 Speaker 4: a playoff team, but I am not really given that 1317 01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:00,600 Speaker 4: much credit. 1318 01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:01,520 Speaker 1: Is still week to week. 1319 01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:05,040 Speaker 4: I'll tell you right now, there's no chance I'm laying 1320 01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:08,120 Speaker 4: ten or eleven with Jacksonville against anybody, let alone the 1321 01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:11,400 Speaker 4: Jets or whoever next week. So that's like three four 1322 01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:13,440 Speaker 4: points high. I'm going to be staring at the Jets 1323 01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:15,720 Speaker 4: all week trying to say, am I really betting the 1324 01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:18,520 Speaker 4: Jets again here? With whoever it is they'll have a quarterback, 1325 01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:21,280 Speaker 4: I'll have to figure it out. But Jacksonville as that 1326 01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:23,120 Speaker 4: big of a favorite. Trevor Lawrence is that big of 1327 01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:26,640 Speaker 4: a favorite, is definitely a giant red flag. Not something 1328 01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:29,160 Speaker 4: to invest in. But be either the Jets or the 1329 01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:31,560 Speaker 4: Titans in Jacksonville and you're in, like that's it. You're 1330 01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:34,800 Speaker 4: in the playoffs. Lose the other two and the division 1331 01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:37,320 Speaker 4: becomes a coin flip. So it comes down to what 1332 01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:38,280 Speaker 4: does Houston do then? 1333 01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:42,360 Speaker 1: But we talked about that. I still think so they go. Jets. 1334 01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:43,680 Speaker 1: Titans are the book ends. 1335 01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:46,280 Speaker 4: But then it's at Denver at Indy, and unless the 1336 01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:49,600 Speaker 4: Colts totally implode, I think the Colts could get that game, 1337 01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:52,240 Speaker 4: and Denver will be a big favorite against Jacksonville and 1338 01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:55,240 Speaker 4: probably the right favorite there. So I still think the 1339 01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:58,840 Speaker 4: division is gettable. I think Houston can catch them and 1340 01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:02,840 Speaker 4: we'll see what that And to me, Jacksonville is a 1341 01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:07,120 Speaker 4: playoff team. But unless we get Jacksonville versus the AFC 1342 01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:10,720 Speaker 4: North team, which is unlikely. To me, that is probably 1343 01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:12,720 Speaker 4: the biggest faith that I'll be looking at in the playoffs. 1344 01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:15,120 Speaker 4: I'm just not ready to believe in this team and 1345 01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:16,080 Speaker 4: it's too inconsistent. 1346 01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:20,200 Speaker 2: Week two week the Jaguars sitting at minus one eighty 1347 01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:23,880 Speaker 2: five to win the division and a cool minus fifty 1348 01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:28,520 Speaker 2: thousand to make the playoffs. I said that correctly, minus 1349 01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:30,919 Speaker 2: fifty thousand. That so they are a lock. They will 1350 01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:33,880 Speaker 2: make the playoffs. A division up for grabs. Are you 1351 01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:34,600 Speaker 2: ready to keep roling? 1352 01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:35,440 Speaker 1: That's right? 1353 01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:40,720 Speaker 2: New Orleans wins the game twenty four to twenty over 1354 01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:42,960 Speaker 2: the Bucks, covers the plus seven and a half on 1355 01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:45,760 Speaker 2: the road. The total goes over forty one and a half. 1356 01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:48,480 Speaker 2: To keep it simple. What a god awful game from 1357 01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:52,040 Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield passing like the guy has always had a 1358 01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:55,720 Speaker 2: knack for using his legs in key moments and he 1359 01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:57,880 Speaker 2: did it today. Six to thirty two in the ground, 1360 01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:01,439 Speaker 2: a few first downs, a few third downs, like he 1361 01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:04,120 Speaker 2: really does a great job at finding the moments to 1362 01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:07,280 Speaker 2: scramble to move his team downfield and get a new 1363 01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:10,840 Speaker 2: set of downs. But the passing is what really kept 1364 01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:14,280 Speaker 2: Tampa back today. Fourteen to thirty for a buck twenty two, 1365 01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:17,040 Speaker 2: a touchdown and a pick in a clean pocket. Today 1366 01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:21,000 Speaker 2: Baker went eleven of twenty three with an interception. He 1367 01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:24,520 Speaker 2: was one of twelve passing ten plus yards downfield. I mean, 1368 01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:28,000 Speaker 2: he was simply dreadful. And it's not just this week. 1369 01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:30,360 Speaker 2: You could talk about your tweet you put out before. 1370 01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:34,000 Speaker 2: Baker's been bad really in many of the games lately, 1371 01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:36,880 Speaker 2: like talk about the stat that you would put out there. 1372 01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:39,960 Speaker 2: But to me, this is part of what's going wrong 1373 01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:43,480 Speaker 2: with Tampa's offense and why they're skidding at the moment 1374 01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:47,400 Speaker 2: is they're getting players back on offense, but Baker, I think, 1375 01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:48,240 Speaker 2: is letting him down. 1376 01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:51,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, Week seven and forward, here's the stat quarterbacks with 1377 01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:55,240 Speaker 4: at least eighty throws. Baker Mayfield now ranked thirty six 1378 01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:58,800 Speaker 4: out of thirty seven in both EPA and completion never 1379 01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:03,080 Speaker 4: expected having as JJ McCarthy. So Baker Mayfield is worse 1380 01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:06,520 Speaker 4: than every quarterback in the NFL except JJ McCarthy and 1381 01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:08,640 Speaker 4: by the way, in Shooter Sanders in that stretch. He 1382 01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:11,800 Speaker 4: just didn't quite qualify. But that's the company that Baker 1383 01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:14,320 Speaker 4: is keeping from a guy that was among the MVP 1384 01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:18,240 Speaker 4: favorites like week six into the season that shouldn't have been. 1385 01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:21,520 Speaker 4: I never thought that that made sense. But for comparison, 1386 01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:26,960 Speaker 4: Baker is right behind in those metrics, justin fields, Davis Mills, 1387 01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:30,120 Speaker 4: Carson Wentz, and Dylan Gabriel. Those are the kind of 1388 01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:33,719 Speaker 4: quarterbacks that he's playing like. And I will say Tristan 1389 01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:35,479 Speaker 4: Wurfs was a late scratch in the s one of 1390 01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:39,320 Speaker 4: some oblique injury. Kristin Wurfs is a superstar. So he's 1391 01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:41,840 Speaker 4: the guy that was missing early in the year. Now 1392 01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:43,880 Speaker 4: he's back, but he's missing again. That was a big 1393 01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:46,360 Speaker 4: miss for them. I certainly when the NFL is good, 1394 01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:48,439 Speaker 4: I had the Bucks, you know teaser, I had the 1395 01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:49,400 Speaker 4: Bucks and the pick six. 1396 01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:52,639 Speaker 1: I had the Bucks. First half. They lost a lot of. 1397 01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:55,200 Speaker 4: Things for me today, I would have been much less 1398 01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:57,599 Speaker 4: aggressive with them if I knew worse was out. 1399 01:08:57,640 --> 01:08:58,320 Speaker 1: That's how it goes. 1400 01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:01,439 Speaker 4: Sometimes they go two of seven on fourth down in 1401 01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:02,240 Speaker 4: this game. 1402 01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:03,080 Speaker 1: Two of seven. 1403 01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:07,280 Speaker 4: That is a bad Both those numbers are bad, like 1404 01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:10,720 Speaker 4: missing five is bad, but trying seven times on fourth 1405 01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:12,360 Speaker 4: down agains the Saints, what are you doing? 1406 01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:15,040 Speaker 1: Like, why are you going for fourth down so often? 1407 01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:18,800 Speaker 4: They lost about fourteen epa on just those fourth down 1408 01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:22,320 Speaker 4: plays in a four point loss. So the numbers basically 1409 01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:24,479 Speaker 4: say this kind of came out as a coin flip 1410 01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:26,639 Speaker 4: game like these are about equal. So on the one hand, 1411 01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:29,200 Speaker 4: that's not terrible for Tampa, and the other hands, the Saints, 1412 01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:30,920 Speaker 4: you want to play the same tequal like that's now 1413 01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:33,760 Speaker 4: what you're supposed to be doing. And a lot of 1414 01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:36,320 Speaker 4: what I just said about Jacksonville is what I'd say 1415 01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:38,360 Speaker 4: about Tampa. In fact, I have Tampa right next to 1416 01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:41,160 Speaker 4: Jacksonville in my Power ratings. So this is just a 1417 01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:43,719 Speaker 4: team that I've really never believed. And that's not even 1418 01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:46,680 Speaker 4: this oh Tampa's fall. No, Tampa was never higher than that. 1419 01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:51,240 Speaker 4: They've been like twentieth all season long. It's just that Carolina, Tampa, 1420 01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:53,759 Speaker 4: and the Saints are all terrible. And even though Caroline's 1421 01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:56,439 Speaker 4: getting better, I still have them well behind Tampa. So 1422 01:09:56,880 --> 01:10:00,200 Speaker 4: you're getting beat by Tyler Shuck running the football for 1423 01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:03,599 Speaker 4: two touchdowns in this game, but still they're like sixty 1424 01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:07,640 Speaker 4: seven percent to win the division. And they still go Atlanta, Carolina, 1425 01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:10,960 Speaker 4: Miami Carolina. Like, these are still games that Tampa Franklin 1426 01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:13,320 Speaker 4: will probably be favored in three or all four of 1427 01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:17,280 Speaker 4: those games. If they beat Atlanta and Miami the two 1428 01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:20,439 Speaker 4: non Carolina games, there's still basically one hundred percent to 1429 01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:24,280 Speaker 4: win the division even regardless of anything Carolina. So just 1430 01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:27,880 Speaker 4: beat Falcons Thursday, which we'll come back to and beat 1431 01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:31,559 Speaker 4: the Dolphins they're still in, or split those and beat 1432 01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:34,639 Speaker 4: Carolina once you're still ninety five percent. So we're still 1433 01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:38,320 Speaker 4: probably watching this team in the playoffs even though they're 1434 01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:40,160 Speaker 4: losing to the Saints, because guess what, by the way, 1435 01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:42,400 Speaker 4: the Panthers lost the Saints a couple weeks ago too, 1436 01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:45,360 Speaker 4: Otherwise they'd be find the team out in front either. 1437 01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:49,479 Speaker 4: Note from this game, this field got shredded today. It 1438 01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:52,400 Speaker 4: was rainy, it was gross, and they play another one 1439 01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:53,800 Speaker 4: on Thursday on the same field. 1440 01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:54,519 Speaker 1: That's dangerous. 1441 01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:58,439 Speaker 2: That is interesting. I hadn't thought about that. To close 1442 01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:01,200 Speaker 2: out one of your other points books, you said two 1443 01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:03,280 Speaker 2: of seven on fourth down, it's tied for the second 1444 01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:06,040 Speaker 2: most fourth down attempts in history. I forget which team, 1445 01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:08,960 Speaker 2: but one team had gone eight times on fourth down 1446 01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:13,439 Speaker 2: and to close this out worst loss of Baker's career 1447 01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:16,400 Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty one crew starts Baker's worst loss 1448 01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:18,080 Speaker 2: by point spread. He was eleven and zero, was a 1449 01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:21,960 Speaker 2: seven plus point favorite, now eleven and one with this 1450 01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:26,120 Speaker 2: loss today. The other one miss the Saints seven. It 1451 01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:28,400 Speaker 2: was a tied seven to seven the end of the 1452 01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:32,240 Speaker 2: first quarter, but the Saints now twelve and eleven and 1453 01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:37,000 Speaker 2: two first quarter money line, so scored a touchdown. Good job, 1454 01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:42,519 Speaker 2: but started they did cover. They did cover. Though they 1455 01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:46,280 Speaker 2: did cover, Like you said, almost no bet won for 1456 01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:48,639 Speaker 2: Tampa Bay today. So that was the type of day 1457 01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:51,200 Speaker 2: it was. We will see what this looks like going forward, 1458 01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:54,720 Speaker 2: but I think nothing really matters until the two Carolina 1459 01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:56,759 Speaker 2: games and then we get to see if we see 1460 01:11:57,040 --> 01:12:00,400 Speaker 2: this Bucks team or Bryce Young at home in theloffs. 1461 01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:02,639 Speaker 2: Can't wait? All right? You ready to keep rolling? 1462 01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:03,559 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1463 01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:06,120 Speaker 4: We have to talk about this Broncos Raiders game just 1464 01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:09,040 Speaker 4: because it was it was the bad beat of the year. 1465 01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:11,559 Speaker 1: Can I just roll with this one? You do? 1466 01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:12,519 Speaker 2: Do you think? Do you think? 1467 01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:12,920 Speaker 1: Okay? 1468 01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:16,360 Speaker 4: So Broncos twenty four to seventeen, boring game, Nothing matters, 1469 01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:18,519 Speaker 4: We have nothing to say about the game. It's just 1470 01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:21,759 Speaker 4: the ending, so the Raiders. First of all, I personally 1471 01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:24,000 Speaker 4: get screwed on this game because the Raiders have seven 1472 01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:26,960 Speaker 4: points with like two minutes left. I got the second 1473 01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:30,840 Speaker 4: half Broncos, they're up ten. I got Raiders under ten 1474 01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:33,240 Speaker 4: and a half plus three hundred. I'm like, great, just 1475 01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:35,479 Speaker 4: get one stop here, Denver, We're done. Get this game 1476 01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:37,759 Speaker 4: off the screen. I want to pay attention to Bears Packers. 1477 01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:41,360 Speaker 4: Raiders get a touchdown. Okay, whatever, this game is still nothing. 1478 01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:44,360 Speaker 4: I lost the alt No big deal, thanks for nothing. 1479 01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:47,080 Speaker 4: Denver covers the on side kick, take the ball in 1480 01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:50,719 Speaker 4: the twenty eight. There's like thirty seconds left. They don't 1481 01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:53,280 Speaker 4: kick the field goal for some reason we don't really know. 1482 01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:57,840 Speaker 4: Turnover and downs. Kenny Pickett, who's in because Gino Smith 1483 01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:00,879 Speaker 4: is hurt, throws a twenty six years past Tyler Lockett. 1484 01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:04,800 Speaker 4: There's five seconds on the running clock with no timeouts, 1485 01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:08,519 Speaker 4: and Brandon Jones, the safety, gets a delay of game 1486 01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:12,360 Speaker 4: penalty for being on a guy too long, which is 1487 01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:15,240 Speaker 4: stops the clock, gives them five yards, and in a 1488 01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:19,840 Speaker 4: ten point game, the Raiders send out Daniel Carlson to 1489 01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:23,439 Speaker 4: kick a fueld goal with Zeros on the clock, We're 1490 01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:27,840 Speaker 4: in the Broncos seven and a half point favorites, win 1491 01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:31,000 Speaker 4: by seven and lose the cover to the Raiders. And 1492 01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:34,679 Speaker 4: on the same play, the over forty and a half 1493 01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:36,000 Speaker 4: hits by a point. 1494 01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:37,360 Speaker 1: So buy a hook. 1495 01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:42,679 Speaker 4: A completely meaningless, stupid, moronic field goal that meant nothing 1496 01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:47,280 Speaker 4: to anybody but everything to us. Evan ruined the entire 1497 01:13:47,479 --> 01:13:52,200 Speaker 4: spread and the total because a Kenny Picket pass and 1498 01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:55,719 Speaker 4: a delay of game penalty with a running clock ruined 1499 01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:59,080 Speaker 4: things at the end, like we are winding down, we're 1500 01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:01,880 Speaker 4: getting our rundown, and I have this game at the 1501 01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:04,479 Speaker 4: bottom bottom of the list, and I'm like, well, gotta 1502 01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:07,200 Speaker 4: put it back into the group now, all for that 1503 01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:10,479 Speaker 4: one stupid play. The worst beat of the season, or look, 1504 01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:12,920 Speaker 4: if you're on the other side, the best beat of 1505 01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:13,320 Speaker 4: the season. 1506 01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:16,800 Speaker 1: Congratulations on your read, what to read? What a great 1507 01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:18,960 Speaker 1: read for you? 1508 01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:21,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, unfortunately that was the case. I guess I do 1509 01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:24,040 Speaker 2: have to ask a question. I didn't even check, and 1510 01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:26,160 Speaker 2: I will. I don't know if someone in the comments saw, 1511 01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:29,719 Speaker 2: but did anyone ask Pete about this in the post game? 1512 01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:31,759 Speaker 2: Is there like an answer? 1513 01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:36,400 Speaker 4: I did not see anything, and like, look it, I mean, 1514 01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:39,519 Speaker 4: I don't know what you do, like, do you want them. 1515 01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:42,680 Speaker 1: To throw a hero? Don't you throw it to the 1516 01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:44,120 Speaker 1: end zone? Yeah? 1517 01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:46,800 Speaker 4: I mean you need a field goal and a touchdown, 1518 01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:49,760 Speaker 4: so you're down ten, you take the field goal like 1519 01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:52,599 Speaker 4: you're you're still trying. I guess, like I don't know, 1520 01:14:52,680 --> 01:14:55,120 Speaker 4: Like I can't really be too mad about it. I 1521 01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:57,719 Speaker 4: didn't see quotes about it afterward because this game sucked, 1522 01:14:57,720 --> 01:15:00,320 Speaker 4: Like who cares the problems? Finally won a game without 1523 01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:01,880 Speaker 4: trailing for the first time all season. 1524 01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:03,160 Speaker 1: Good job to you. 1525 01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:05,560 Speaker 4: The Raiders move into the number one spot in the 1526 01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:08,160 Speaker 4: draft now because of the way things turned out, Good 1527 01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:08,880 Speaker 4: job to them. 1528 01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:10,040 Speaker 1: Everyone got what. 1529 01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:12,120 Speaker 4: They wanted, unless, of course, you bet the game, in 1530 01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:14,559 Speaker 4: which case it was either the worst or best beat 1531 01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:16,280 Speaker 4: of the season, and that's all that came down to. 1532 01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:19,439 Speaker 2: All ill all I have to say as well with 1533 01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:22,640 Speaker 2: this one, it just feels kind of ironic that it 1534 01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:26,439 Speaker 2: was the Las Vegas Raiders who made this call to 1535 01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:29,000 Speaker 2: cover the spread at home. 1536 01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:32,800 Speaker 1: So yeah, it feels like somebody candit the call, that's 1537 01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:33,240 Speaker 1: for sure. 1538 01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:36,280 Speaker 2: I just want to call it a little bit fishy 1539 01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:39,759 Speaker 2: and just kind of move on. Yeah, all right, let's 1540 01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:43,960 Speaker 2: just get to some scores here. The games the games 1541 01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:47,400 Speaker 2: were great, but there were some There were some blowouts today, 1542 01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:50,080 Speaker 2: so let's get through these a little bit quickly. Rams 1543 01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:52,600 Speaker 2: won forty five to seventeen, cover the nine and a 1544 01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:55,160 Speaker 2: half on the road total over forty nine and a half. 1545 01:15:55,640 --> 01:15:57,559 Speaker 2: I mentioned this before he was in the primer, but 1546 01:15:57,640 --> 01:16:01,320 Speaker 2: McVeagh loves December twenty seven and eleven straight up, twenty 1547 01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:04,360 Speaker 2: six eleven and one ats. He's won nine in a 1548 01:16:04,479 --> 01:16:08,000 Speaker 2: row outright in the month as a road favorite in 1549 01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:11,800 Speaker 2: Arizona and Seattle. He is now sixteen and oh straight up. 1550 01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:15,439 Speaker 2: The guy just takes care of business. And that's exactly 1551 01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:18,120 Speaker 2: what we saw today. Tons of offense in this game, 1552 01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:20,559 Speaker 2: but for all of us who had this game as 1553 01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:23,880 Speaker 2: the highest scoring game, we just needed a little bit more, 1554 01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:28,759 Speaker 2: all right. Titans beat the Browns thirty one to twenty 1555 01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:31,639 Speaker 2: nine is four point road dogs total over thirty three 1556 01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:34,240 Speaker 2: and a half. This was and you're not gonna love 1557 01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:37,040 Speaker 2: this stat This was the first game since two thousand 1558 01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:40,360 Speaker 2: and six that had a total under thirty five that 1559 01:16:40,479 --> 01:16:45,240 Speaker 2: combined for sixty plus points by both teams. Just patently ridiculous. 1560 01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:47,680 Speaker 2: I think I took some bets in this game, like 1561 01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:49,479 Speaker 2: there was a lot of Alts that I bet were like, 1562 01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:52,479 Speaker 2: let's have these touchdowns in the game, also go under 1563 01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:55,040 Speaker 2: thirty five and a half. Well, that none of that 1564 01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:57,439 Speaker 2: worked because there was sixty damn points in the game. 1565 01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:01,000 Speaker 2: Browns are now one six ATS's favorite over the last 1566 01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:04,360 Speaker 2: two years, and eighteen and twenty seven, ATS is a 1567 01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:09,000 Speaker 2: fave under Stefanski. Miami beats the Jets thirty four to ten, 1568 01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:11,519 Speaker 2: covers the minus two and a half on the road 1569 01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:14,519 Speaker 2: total over forty one and a half. Two is now 1570 01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:16,400 Speaker 2: seven and zero straight up versus the Jets in his 1571 01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:19,920 Speaker 2: career seventeen and eight ats versus the AFC East. He's 1572 01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:22,600 Speaker 2: done a great job there. I believe Two is the 1573 01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:25,080 Speaker 2: second best quarterback since two thousand and three versus the 1574 01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:28,080 Speaker 2: AFC is behind Tom Brady, if you want some perspective there. 1575 01:17:28,760 --> 01:17:31,559 Speaker 2: Miami keeps their playoff hopes alive. They've won four in 1576 01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:35,000 Speaker 2: a row, they've won five of six, but Two has 1577 01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:38,000 Speaker 2: thrown under two hundred yards in all four of those wins. 1578 01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:41,080 Speaker 2: They've really not needed much of him because they've been 1579 01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:44,240 Speaker 2: playing bad teams, and I feel like they're really getting 1580 01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:46,840 Speaker 2: used to playing without Tyreek, and they're changing their style 1581 01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:48,760 Speaker 2: a little bit. So we'll see what that looks like 1582 01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:53,760 Speaker 2: against Pittsburgh. Now, the Jets eliminated fifteen years without the playoffs. 1583 01:17:54,120 --> 01:17:58,360 Speaker 2: In that span those fifteen years, they've used seventeen different quarterbacks. 1584 01:17:59,040 --> 01:18:02,080 Speaker 2: Not a single one is even five hundred or better 1585 01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:07,360 Speaker 2: even one game, all of them under five hundred. Actually ridiculous, 1586 01:18:08,240 --> 01:18:11,599 Speaker 2: all right. Seattle beat the Falcons thirty seven to nine 1587 01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:15,320 Speaker 2: as seven point road faves. Total goes over forty four 1588 01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:18,880 Speaker 2: and a half. This was just an unbelievable lesson in 1589 01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:22,080 Speaker 2: cluster scoring because this was like six' to three at 1590 01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:24,479 Speaker 2: the half or something like. That this was a oh my, 1591 01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:27,559 Speaker 2: God darnold's playing. Bad The falcons are in this which 1592 01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:30,479 Speaker 2: turned into like a thirty point. Win but the ONE 1593 01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:32,679 Speaker 2: pm window has been a friend To. Seattle they've won 1594 01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:35,760 Speaker 2: eight straight at one pm seven and zero since the 1595 01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:38,439 Speaker 2: start the last season Under mike. McDonald they are now 1596 01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:42,720 Speaker 2: ten four and one ats on the. Road minnesota beat 1597 01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:46,479 Speaker 2: The commanders thirty one. Nothing thirty one nothing covers minus 1598 01:18:46,479 --> 01:18:48,280 Speaker 2: one and a half on the, close lots of plus 1599 01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:50,040 Speaker 2: one and a half early in the. 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Time this 1622 01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:11,120 Speaker 2: is a big, one and this is gonna be a fun. 1623 01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:13,479 Speaker 2: One you've got The herbert, injury lots of kind of monitor, 1624 01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:17,880 Speaker 2: here But Eagles, chargers you kind of take me, here 1625 01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:19,600 Speaker 2: like you what are you seeing in this? Game and 1626 01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:20,559 Speaker 2: Then i'll give you some trends and. 1627 01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:23,519 Speaker 1: Picks, Yeah i'm not sure it'll be a fun. One 1628 01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:25,479 Speaker 1: it'll be a close. One i'm not sure it's gonna 1629 01:20:25,479 --> 01:20:25,880 Speaker 1: be a fun. 1630 01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:30,080 Speaker 4: Watch we've Seen eagle timetime games And i'm gonna go that. 1631 01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:32,639 Speaker 4: DIRECTION i think this is an. Under i'm gonna take 1632 01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:34,960 Speaker 4: the under forty two and a. Half so you mentioned 1633 01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:37,519 Speaker 4: Justin herbert coming off a left hand. Surgery we don't 1634 01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:39,240 Speaker 4: really know what that looks. LIKE i think it probably 1635 01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:42,160 Speaker 4: means more, shotgun probably means a little more run. Game 1636 01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:44,720 Speaker 4: it looks like A Maryon hampton should be, back so 1637 01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:47,599 Speaker 4: that probably. Helps Jalen carter is, out so it gives 1638 01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:50,160 Speaker 4: them a bit of a. Shot But chargers offensive line 1639 01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:51,920 Speaker 4: is in a rough shape right. Now where there's some 1640 01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:54,880 Speaker 4: really bad offensive lines out, there but they're they're among the. 1641 01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:57,759 Speaker 4: Worst eagles pass rush has been really good even Without. 1642 01:20:57,760 --> 01:21:00,479 Speaker 4: CARTER i think that's a big. Problem turns out has 1643 01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:04,479 Speaker 4: been fading. Quickly this is the sort of game that 1644 01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:07,240 Speaker 4: if there's Anything eagles in, them they should be able 1645 01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:09,559 Speaker 4: to run on this. Team that's The chargers are built 1646 01:21:09,560 --> 01:21:10,120 Speaker 4: to be run. 1647 01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:13,439 Speaker 1: On that's the. Defense but The eagles haven't really been doing. 1648 01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:16,600 Speaker 1: That they're not really. Themselves SO i would. 1649 01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:19,320 Speaker 4: Lean eagles in this, game BUT i have it pretty 1650 01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:21,600 Speaker 4: close to a coin, flip So i'm not playing. Aside 1651 01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:24,599 Speaker 4: if you like The, EAGLES i think the better angle 1652 01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:28,120 Speaker 4: Is chargers to miss the playoffs plus one sixty FOUR 1653 01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:31,800 Speaker 4: i see right. Now they go At chiefs At, Cowboys 1654 01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:36,120 Speaker 4: texans At broncos to close that is a brutal closing. 1655 01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:38,960 Speaker 4: Stretch At chiefs Is chiefs on life support at this, 1656 01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:41,759 Speaker 4: point which like Every chiefs game is on life. Support 1657 01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:45,080 Speaker 4: but that is a desperate. Team then At, cowboys same. 1658 01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:47,840 Speaker 4: Thing you have two teams that are basically, like if we, 1659 01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:50,120 Speaker 4: lose we're out for the. Year so you have two 1660 01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:52,920 Speaker 4: teams that are BETTER i think than The chargers at 1661 01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:56,040 Speaker 4: home playing. Them then you have The texans we talked 1662 01:21:56,040 --> 01:21:58,160 Speaker 4: about a, lot and then At, denver who might need 1663 01:21:58,240 --> 01:22:00,280 Speaker 4: to get that win to make the one seas so 1664 01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:04,439 Speaker 4: kind of playing around with the. NUMBERS i, see if 1665 01:22:04,479 --> 01:22:07,320 Speaker 4: you think The eagles beat The chargers, HERE i think 1666 01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:10,479 Speaker 4: it's a good setup to fade The chargers down the stretch. 1667 01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:13,040 Speaker 4: Here AND i, LOOK i don't trust The eagles to 1668 01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:15,360 Speaker 4: score a lot. EITHER i don't trust either team to 1669 01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:18,960 Speaker 4: give us great looking. Football chargers defense is fourth and 1670 01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:21,280 Speaker 4: success rate on the. Season The eagles success rate has 1671 01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:24,080 Speaker 4: not been. Good so they just are not gonna be able 1672 01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:27,360 Speaker 4: to move the ball successfully play by. Play they're not 1673 01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:28,960 Speaker 4: gonna be able to get the ball down. Deep The 1674 01:22:29,040 --> 01:22:31,280 Speaker 4: chargers are number one versus the deep. Ball that's where 1675 01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:35,400 Speaker 4: The eagles are able to get some. Things primetime, unders we, 1676 01:22:35,479 --> 01:22:38,599 Speaker 4: know continue to be a thing outside Of thursday sixty 1677 01:22:38,680 --> 01:22:41,920 Speaker 4: one percent to the under since twenty nineteen And Jim 1678 01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:44,840 Speaker 4: harbaugh when the total is blow forty, four fifty seven 1679 01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:47,400 Speaker 4: percent to the under since the bye week for The, 1680 01:22:47,439 --> 01:22:51,479 Speaker 4: eagles here are their totals seventeen not them the whole, 1681 01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:55,760 Speaker 4: game twenty, three forty five and thirty. Nine so under 1682 01:22:55,880 --> 01:22:58,400 Speaker 4: this number three out of the four average thirty one 1683 01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:02,160 Speaker 4: points a. Game this is all ugly. Football that's WHAT 1684 01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:04,640 Speaker 4: i think we. Get give me the under forty two 1685 01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:06,840 Speaker 4: and a half At DraftKings AND i quite like this. 1686 01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:08,759 Speaker 4: One this would have been my best bet inner. EPISODE 1687 01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:10,680 Speaker 4: i just saved it for The monday night and a 1688 01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:13,080 Speaker 4: little extra pick And i'm looking. 1689 01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:13,559 Speaker 1: In our comments. 1690 01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:17,200 Speaker 4: Here Crazy shorts thirteen nine to thirty eight called this 1691 01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:20,800 Speaker 4: one give me A Dallas goddard. Touchdown The chargers are 1692 01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:24,280 Speaker 4: dead LAST dva against the tight. End they've not faced 1693 01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:28,000 Speaker 4: a lot of tight, ends but here's who they've, Faced, Kelsey, Bowers, 1694 01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:32,240 Speaker 4: Waller warren And Bowers. Again those five dudes have five 1695 01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:35,719 Speaker 4: touchdowns in their, games so they've at least one touchdown 1696 01:23:35,720 --> 01:23:38,520 Speaker 4: on four to five got heard career high seven touchdowns 1697 01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:41,320 Speaker 4: at least one in almost half his games plus three 1698 01:23:41,320 --> 01:23:44,360 Speaker 4: point forty for got her touchdown and it didn't work, 1699 01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:47,240 Speaker 4: Today but we tried this With Quinn Shawn judkins got 1700 01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:50,599 Speaker 4: her touchdown with the under is just about ten to one. 1701 01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:52,880 Speaker 1: Odds SO i like that as a little escalator as. 1702 01:23:52,920 --> 01:23:55,840 Speaker 2: WELL i just you gotta get out of my. Head 1703 01:23:56,000 --> 01:23:58,800 Speaker 2: you AND i seem to now kind of think the same. 1704 01:23:58,840 --> 01:24:01,720 Speaker 2: Way BECAUSE i pulled Up DraftKings to try to just 1705 01:24:01,960 --> 01:24:04,639 Speaker 2: get some odds on some. Things i'll start off with 1706 01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:06,280 Speaker 2: just a stat or two and Then i'll give you my. 1707 01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:08,800 Speaker 2: Picks BUT i feel like it's kind of. Interesting SO 1708 01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:12,160 Speaker 2: i think we all assume That herbert's gonna. Start but 1709 01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:14,559 Speaker 2: it was actually interesting to me to look At Jim harbaugh's. 1710 01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:16,880 Speaker 2: Career you, know he's only had three quarterbacks in THE, 1711 01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:21,080 Speaker 2: Nfl Herbert kaepernick And Alex. Smith that's. It so this 1712 01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:23,000 Speaker 2: would have been a very interesting change to have to 1713 01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:24,679 Speaker 2: go to a. Backup he's only going to a backup 1714 01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:27,280 Speaker 2: Once sony went From Alex smith To Colin kaepernick and 1715 01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:29,719 Speaker 2: then that was. It so it would have been interesting 1716 01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:32,160 Speaker 2: to See Trey. LANCE i don't think it's gonna. HAPPEN i, 1717 01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:34,240 Speaker 2: mean there's a Chance herbert gets hurt again and maybe 1718 01:24:34,240 --> 01:24:36,360 Speaker 2: something changes in a, Week but at the, MOMENT i 1719 01:24:36,479 --> 01:24:38,759 Speaker 2: think we're going to See herbert with a huge cast 1720 01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:41,120 Speaker 2: on his non throwing arm and we're going to go from. 1721 01:24:41,160 --> 01:24:45,320 Speaker 2: There the other interesting thing is This lee's profitable coaches 1722 01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:47,759 Speaker 2: against the spread coming off a loss since twenty twenty. 1723 01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:52,479 Speaker 2: One Brian callahan seventieth and last three and, Fourteen Matt 1724 01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:55,400 Speaker 2: ruhle three and, eleven sixty, ninth sixty eighth on that, 1725 01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:59,200 Speaker 2: List Nick sirianni eight and fifteen against the. Spread So 1726 01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:02,680 Speaker 2: i'm an awful. Loss it's not The, lions it's not 1727 01:25:02,920 --> 01:25:06,439 Speaker 2: okay off a, loss let's keep. Rowling it's The philly locker. 1728 01:25:06,520 --> 01:25:08,880 Speaker 2: Room so at the, MOMENT i don't exactly know what 1729 01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:11,080 Speaker 2: we're gonna, get but that number scares me a. Tad 1730 01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:14,200 Speaker 2: so here's the. BETS i. LIKE i Took herbert under 1731 01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:17,040 Speaker 2: twenty and a half rushing. Yards i've seen the last 1732 01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:19,679 Speaker 2: two or three. Games he scrambles about two or three 1733 01:25:19,720 --> 01:25:22,200 Speaker 2: times each. Game but aside from, THAT i think the 1734 01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:24,599 Speaker 2: injury is gonna keep him from doing. THAT i think 1735 01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:26,280 Speaker 2: twenty and a half is just a little long BECAUSE 1736 01:25:26,280 --> 01:25:29,599 Speaker 2: i think that's usually about what his rushing yards. Are 1737 01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:31,920 Speaker 2: SO i see the line kind of moving. DOWN i 1738 01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:34,360 Speaker 2: took the under twenty and a. Half and then for 1739 01:25:34,439 --> 01:25:38,040 Speaker 2: the fun, Parlay i'm with you On, goddard all the 1740 01:25:38,040 --> 01:25:41,040 Speaker 2: stuff about the charges versus tight. Ends plus he's got 1741 01:25:41,040 --> 01:25:44,840 Speaker 2: the push push aj barner thing going, on where lots 1742 01:25:44,840 --> 01:25:46,200 Speaker 2: of different ways For goddard to get in the end. 1743 01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:48,240 Speaker 2: Zone and then just BECAUSE i like to have, Fun 1744 01:25:48,320 --> 01:25:51,240 Speaker 2: i'm mixing him With Keenan. Allen so the parlay Is 1745 01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:55,400 Speaker 2: goddard and. Keenan it's seventeen to one with the two 1746 01:25:55,439 --> 01:25:59,200 Speaker 2: of them. Together if you add just an, all, like 1747 01:25:59,280 --> 01:26:01,679 Speaker 2: let's say you add under forty five and a. Half 1748 01:26:01,800 --> 01:26:04,720 Speaker 2: let's go over a few key. Numbers that's seventeen to 1749 01:26:04,760 --> 01:26:07,479 Speaker 2: one goes to forty seven to, one and that to 1750 01:26:07,520 --> 01:26:10,439 Speaker 2: me is an interesting. PLAY i still like the. UNDER 1751 01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:12,920 Speaker 2: i like it over a few key, numbers And i'm 1752 01:26:12,920 --> 01:26:15,760 Speaker 2: getting my touchdowns with. It, listen if you're gonna get 1753 01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:18,400 Speaker 2: to forty, points and this is kind of our point 1754 01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:19,880 Speaker 2: with The browns, game if you're gonna get to that many, 1755 01:26:19,880 --> 01:26:22,320 Speaker 2: points you gotta score some. Touchdowns IF i can actually 1756 01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:25,320 Speaker 2: accurately predict who those, are forty seven to, one not. 1757 01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:28,320 Speaker 4: Bad, YEAH i have a little fun and Throw parley, 1758 01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:30,760 Speaker 4: in and you, know we gotta have some way to 1759 01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:33,000 Speaker 4: Enjoy monday. NIGHT i think it will be a close 1760 01:26:33,120 --> 01:26:36,000 Speaker 4: game and an interesting, game just maybe not a fun 1761 01:26:36,040 --> 01:26:39,160 Speaker 4: game unless you have a very look my aesthetic is 1762 01:26:39,280 --> 01:26:41,719 Speaker 4: thirty nine to thirty five or whatever in the snow 1763 01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:45,160 Speaker 4: Like i'd like to. See i'd be honestly pretty happy 1764 01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:47,680 Speaker 4: if either one of if both these teams together get 1765 01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:49,719 Speaker 4: to thirty. Nine i'll feel pretty good about My monday. 1766 01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:51,960 Speaker 4: Night if we get, there but hopefully not much more 1767 01:26:52,040 --> 01:26:52,559 Speaker 4: so we can hit her. 1768 01:26:52,640 --> 01:26:52,880 Speaker 1: Under. 1769 01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:56,000 Speaker 2: Yeah a fun game to. Handicap maybe not the most 1770 01:26:56,040 --> 01:26:57,840 Speaker 2: fun to, watch but, again if you want to tell 1771 01:26:57,880 --> 01:27:00,240 Speaker 2: some of These monday night football, bets make sure for 1772 01:27:00,240 --> 01:27:02,879 Speaker 2: the quick slip link in the podcast in video description 1773 01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:06,240 Speaker 2: or go to actionewerk dot com slash. Bet, now that's 1774 01:27:06,280 --> 01:27:08,360 Speaker 2: my favorite way to do. It all the bets listed, 1775 01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:12,439 Speaker 2: there just click take it to your. Sportsbook. Beautiful all, Right, 1776 01:27:12,479 --> 01:27:14,880 Speaker 2: BRANDON i think we've teased them long. Enough what are 1777 01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:16,719 Speaker 2: you doing for the hot read next? Week hot? Wrap 1778 01:27:17,479 --> 01:27:20,719 Speaker 2: bob on ice rights ice? Cream? 1779 01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:22,760 Speaker 1: Hot? 1780 01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:29,360 Speaker 4: Yeah all those, unders all those overs, today so what 1781 01:27:29,400 --> 01:27:32,840 Speaker 4: can we? Do we're going under multiple. Unders we're gonna 1782 01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:35,080 Speaker 4: start and end the week with some. Unders so let's 1783 01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:38,720 Speaker 4: go To thursday Night falcons At. BUCKS i tease this 1784 01:27:38,760 --> 01:27:40,600 Speaker 4: a little. Bit gave me the under forty four and 1785 01:27:40,640 --> 01:27:44,599 Speaker 4: a half at. Drafting so ugly game different ugly Than. 1786 01:27:44,600 --> 01:27:47,400 Speaker 4: Monday monday is, ugly but let's Watch thursday is. Ugly 1787 01:27:47,439 --> 01:27:51,000 Speaker 4: but make other plans and just hope nothing. Happens both 1788 01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:55,000 Speaker 4: teams ugly. Losses On, Sunday kirk is Struggling atlanta's last 1789 01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:57,719 Speaker 4: seven of. Eight there's seasons. Done we talked About baker 1790 01:27:57,840 --> 01:28:01,439 Speaker 4: second to LAST epa Since week, seven their offense feels 1791 01:28:01,439 --> 01:28:04,240 Speaker 4: lost right. NOW i think both defenses are the better 1792 01:28:04,240 --> 01:28:06,640 Speaker 4: half of the team right, now which frankly says a 1793 01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:08,760 Speaker 4: lot more about where the teams are at than it 1794 01:28:08,760 --> 01:28:11,800 Speaker 4: does about the. Defenses But bucks run defense is the 1795 01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:15,240 Speaker 4: better part that's good against The. Falcons falcons pass defense 1796 01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:18,040 Speaker 4: is their better part that's good against The. BUCCANEERS i 1797 01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:20,960 Speaker 4: just THINK i think it's not a great atmosphere for the. 1798 01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:24,800 Speaker 4: Offense and then short. Week, Okay Mike adams probably not 1799 01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:26,679 Speaker 4: going to be ready yet on a short, Week Drake 1800 01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:30,000 Speaker 4: london probably not ready. Yet Tristan wurfs didn't get to play. 1801 01:28:30,040 --> 01:28:32,719 Speaker 4: Today is he going to be Ready? THURSDAY i don't. 1802 01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:35,479 Speaker 4: Know but short week puts those guys in. Doubt that's 1803 01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:38,320 Speaker 4: more offensive guys as. Well AND i mentioned this with The. 1804 01:28:38,360 --> 01:28:41,240 Speaker 4: Bucks their field just get ripped apart by the, Rain 1805 01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:44,599 Speaker 4: like that field is a mess right now and its sloppy. 1806 01:28:44,680 --> 01:28:47,160 Speaker 4: Conditions that only helps the Under to, me if you 1807 01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:49,840 Speaker 4: have this kind of, ugly gross field that's not going 1808 01:28:49,880 --> 01:28:51,920 Speaker 4: to be ready to play in four days from, now 1809 01:28:51,920 --> 01:28:55,240 Speaker 4: that can only help our. Cause week fourteen. Forward you 1810 01:28:55,360 --> 01:28:58,240 Speaker 4: love division game. Unders if it's a home favorite under, 1811 01:28:58,320 --> 01:29:00,680 Speaker 4: seven fifty six percent to the. Under if it's a 1812 01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:03,240 Speaker 4: total from forty three to forty seven points like this, 1813 01:29:03,280 --> 01:29:05,600 Speaker 4: one or right in the, middle fifty six percent to the. 1814 01:29:05,680 --> 01:29:09,599 Speaker 4: Under to, me this is a classic late Season thursday. 1815 01:29:09,720 --> 01:29:13,920 Speaker 4: Night like, again go do Some christmas. Shopping there are 1816 01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:17,960 Speaker 4: college playoff games, coming THERE'S Nba cup Games tuesday And. 1817 01:29:17,960 --> 01:29:21,080 Speaker 4: Wednesday listen To buckets for coverage of. That you can't 1818 01:29:21,080 --> 01:29:25,479 Speaker 4: do sports every. Night Buccaneers falcons under and don't watch. 1819 01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:29,000 Speaker 4: It nothing's. Happening get it before the key numbers under 1820 01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:29,600 Speaker 4: forty four and a. 1821 01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:33,000 Speaker 2: Half, YEAH i like that as. WELL i think the 1822 01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:37,000 Speaker 2: fact that's also outdoors versus In atlanta is a bit 1823 01:29:37,040 --> 01:29:39,920 Speaker 2: of an. Advantage AND i like the total in that 1824 01:29:39,960 --> 01:29:42,000 Speaker 2: game as. Well and you made some great points all 1825 01:29:42,040 --> 01:29:47,360 Speaker 2: the injuries short Week falcons. Eliminated and also The falcons 1826 01:29:47,360 --> 01:29:49,559 Speaker 2: defense better than it had, Been like their sacks are 1827 01:29:50,400 --> 01:29:53,200 Speaker 2: basically double what they were last, Year like they're a different. 1828 01:29:53,200 --> 01:29:56,400 Speaker 2: Team so AND i, mean we talked About, baker so 1829 01:29:56,560 --> 01:29:58,600 Speaker 2: something's got to change, there but maybe it. 1830 01:29:58,640 --> 01:30:01,519 Speaker 1: Doesn't all, Right so that was the start of the. 1831 01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:03,759 Speaker 4: Week let's end the week all the way To monday 1832 01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:08,160 Speaker 4: night another Under dolphins At steelers under forty four and a. 1833 01:30:08,240 --> 01:30:11,639 Speaker 4: Half both DEFENSES i think still trending At pittsburgh's we'll 1834 01:30:11,640 --> 01:30:14,599 Speaker 4: see after, today but their offense still has been great 1835 01:30:14,640 --> 01:30:18,080 Speaker 4: despite The baltimore. Game Remember rodgers dead LAST epa per 1836 01:30:18,120 --> 01:30:21,240 Speaker 4: play among all quarterbacks Since week, nine still not looking. 1837 01:30:21,240 --> 01:30:23,760 Speaker 4: Good miami's defense has been quite. Good they were good again. 1838 01:30:23,800 --> 01:30:26,920 Speaker 4: Today the jets only touchdown came on a punt. Return 1839 01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:30,439 Speaker 4: miami's been number one against the. Run that's good Against 1840 01:30:30,520 --> 01:30:33,160 Speaker 4: Arthur smith. Offense that means it's all On Aaron rodgers 1841 01:30:33,160 --> 01:30:36,000 Speaker 4: and frankly all on Dk metcalf and you can't quite do. 1842 01:30:36,080 --> 01:30:39,559 Speaker 4: Everything pittsburgh's already had four games thirty five or fewer 1843 01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:42,880 Speaker 4: points on the. Season miami's had five at forty one or. 1844 01:30:42,880 --> 01:30:45,360 Speaker 4: Below In miami has gotten under forty four and a 1845 01:30:45,400 --> 01:30:49,040 Speaker 4: half six straight games right now into this. Game so 1846 01:30:49,439 --> 01:30:53,639 Speaker 4: primetime unders we mentioned outside Of thursday sixty one percent 1847 01:30:53,960 --> 01:30:57,080 Speaker 4: sixty percent this year just hit tonight obviously as. Well 1848 01:30:57,479 --> 01:30:59,920 Speaker 4: unders between thirty nine and forty four win the tow. 1849 01:31:00,240 --> 01:31:03,360 Speaker 4: Drops you want to just keep riding the under fifty five. 1850 01:31:03,400 --> 01:31:06,280 Speaker 4: Percent we're not quite under forty four, here but some 1851 01:31:06,360 --> 01:31:08,479 Speaker 4: books it is. Already so it's forty three and a. 1852 01:31:08,520 --> 01:31:10,559 Speaker 4: Half this MORNING i put it in the. App maybe 1853 01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:12,720 Speaker 4: you played then it kind of had a brief move, 1854 01:31:12,800 --> 01:31:15,760 Speaker 4: up but it's falling. Again it's moved. Around there's like 1855 01:31:15,800 --> 01:31:18,519 Speaker 4: a two point spring right. Now BUT i just get 1856 01:31:18,520 --> 01:31:21,439 Speaker 4: the best number you. Can, obviously the highest forty to forty, 1857 01:31:21,479 --> 01:31:23,439 Speaker 4: Four like every single number in that range is. Key 1858 01:31:23,520 --> 01:31:25,640 Speaker 4: so there's a reason we're grabbing these right in the 1859 01:31:25,640 --> 01:31:27,920 Speaker 4: spot where they're at under forty four and a. Half 1860 01:31:27,920 --> 01:31:29,920 Speaker 4: if you can just get the best number out, there 1861 01:31:30,080 --> 01:31:31,960 Speaker 4: and a little, BONUS i know we kept you long. 1862 01:31:32,040 --> 01:31:34,560 Speaker 4: Tonight this ONE i put out On twitter through the 1863 01:31:34,600 --> 01:31:38,240 Speaker 4: Bonus hot READ a future is hot READ nicki menuari 1864 01:31:38,320 --> 01:31:41,040 Speaker 4: Defensive rookie of The, year best number you can. FIND 1865 01:31:41,080 --> 01:31:43,719 Speaker 4: i still saw thirty to one out. There my dude 1866 01:31:43,720 --> 01:31:48,439 Speaker 4: From seattle today alone had a, sack an, interception an 1867 01:31:48,560 --> 01:31:51,360 Speaker 4: a block field. Goal have you seen the defensive rookie 1868 01:31:51,360 --> 01:31:51,599 Speaker 4: of year? 1869 01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:52,559 Speaker 1: Class that's. 1870 01:31:52,600 --> 01:31:55,160 Speaker 4: It you Win Defensive rookie of The year from one game, 1871 01:31:55,200 --> 01:31:58,360 Speaker 4: Alone like there's no competition out. Here if this name sounds. 1872 01:31:58,360 --> 01:32:01,200 Speaker 4: Familiar it should we had him in our first extra 1873 01:32:01,240 --> 01:32:04,559 Speaker 4: point like six weeks, ago sixty to. One i'm betting. 1874 01:32:04,640 --> 01:32:07,800 Speaker 4: AGAIN i already bet it. Again, LOOK i Have. Schwessinger 1875 01:32:07,840 --> 01:32:09,120 Speaker 4: he's the favorite thirty five to. 1876 01:32:09,120 --> 01:32:09,640 Speaker 1: One he's in my. 1877 01:32:09,720 --> 01:32:12,559 Speaker 4: Portfolio but he got injured. Today he went the concussion. 1878 01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:15,839 Speaker 4: Protocol he got, cleared but you never know what symptoms 1879 01:32:15,840 --> 01:32:18,040 Speaker 4: come up with. That we're not wishing on, anything but 1880 01:32:18,160 --> 01:32:19,760 Speaker 4: he might not even get to play next, week for 1881 01:32:19,800 --> 01:32:22,120 Speaker 4: all that we. Know and by the, Way Miles garretts 1882 01:32:22,120 --> 01:32:23,880 Speaker 4: gonn Win Defensive player of The year and set the sack. 1883 01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:26,799 Speaker 4: Record do we really want to give The browns defense 1884 01:32:27,000 --> 01:32:30,919 Speaker 4: too big? Awards how about Give seattle's defense Something seattle 1885 01:32:31,040 --> 01:32:34,200 Speaker 4: deserves an. Award this seems like a good way to reward. 1886 01:32:34,240 --> 01:32:36,479 Speaker 4: Them and this is a market that doesn't have a clear. 1887 01:32:36,520 --> 01:32:37,519 Speaker 1: Favorite can move very. 1888 01:32:37,560 --> 01:32:39,720 Speaker 4: QUICKLY i see a thirty to, ONE i see a 1889 01:32:39,760 --> 01:32:42,120 Speaker 4: twenty five to. ONE i think you could be like 1890 01:32:42,200 --> 01:32:44,280 Speaker 4: a plus three hundred just like, That like this could 1891 01:32:44,320 --> 01:32:49,120 Speaker 4: swing really. Quickly i'm doubling, down tripling. DOWN i Love Nicki. 1892 01:32:49,160 --> 01:32:51,880 Speaker 4: MINORI i think he's gonna win this, thing so grab 1893 01:32:51,960 --> 01:32:54,400 Speaker 4: him as a little bonus hot read in addition to 1894 01:32:54,439 --> 01:32:56,200 Speaker 4: your unders to wrap up our podcast. 1895 01:32:56,200 --> 01:32:59,280 Speaker 2: Tonight, Yeah i'm looking at a book right now that 1896 01:32:59,320 --> 01:33:03,639 Speaker 2: has a wards odds up And schwesinger is priced Like Miles, 1897 01:33:03,680 --> 01:33:06,559 Speaker 2: garrett AND i don't feel like that makes. Sense it, 1898 01:33:06,600 --> 01:33:09,439 Speaker 2: doesn't SO i THINK i think at that, point just 1899 01:33:09,479 --> 01:33:12,160 Speaker 2: the handicap from. THERE i think that's. 1900 01:33:12,240 --> 01:33:15,280 Speaker 4: Right the defense is a splash plays. 1901 01:33:15,360 --> 01:33:17,160 Speaker 1: Awards we don't give it. 1902 01:33:17,160 --> 01:33:19,800 Speaker 4: Anymore we used to give it to linebackers because they 1903 01:33:19,800 --> 01:33:22,720 Speaker 4: were just racking up. Tackles we now give it to 1904 01:33:22,880 --> 01:33:25,720 Speaker 4: sacks and interceptions and blockfield. Goals and it didn't quite 1905 01:33:25,800 --> 01:33:28,360 Speaker 4: matter because they was a blowout and it didn't really 1906 01:33:28,840 --> 01:33:31,640 Speaker 4: it wasn't a huge spot that anyone really. Watched BUT 1907 01:33:31,720 --> 01:33:34,439 Speaker 4: i think when people start to notice these stats the 1908 01:33:34,479 --> 01:33:36,559 Speaker 4: next couple of, DAYS i think it's going to get bet. 1909 01:33:36,360 --> 01:33:36,680 Speaker 1: Down in a. 1910 01:33:36,760 --> 01:33:40,479 Speaker 4: Hurry and, Yeah schwesssinger may well win. It hopefully you 1911 01:33:40,520 --> 01:33:43,000 Speaker 4: have that ticket as, Well BUT i Think Imon wori 1912 01:33:43,080 --> 01:33:45,880 Speaker 4: should be right in the. Mix and Look atlanta's pass, 1913 01:33:45,920 --> 01:33:47,840 Speaker 4: RUSHERS i think they both got a little banged up. 1914 01:33:47,880 --> 01:33:51,280 Speaker 4: Today they're supposed to be the next. Guy's philadelphia's linebacker 1915 01:33:51,360 --> 01:33:53,360 Speaker 4: G Had. Campbell he was second in the. Odds he's 1916 01:33:53,400 --> 01:33:55,840 Speaker 4: not even playing anymore for them right. Now he's can't 1917 01:33:55,840 --> 01:33:59,000 Speaker 4: get on the. Field so this is wide. Open AND 1918 01:33:59,080 --> 01:34:00,800 Speaker 4: i think even worri and, win AND i think he's 1919 01:34:00,840 --> 01:34:01,240 Speaker 4: going To. 1920 01:34:01,760 --> 01:34:03,599 Speaker 2: YEAH i see one book right, now Even worried down 1921 01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:06,160 Speaker 2: to like six to. One so shop, around make sure 1922 01:34:06,200 --> 01:34:17,439 Speaker 2: you find your. Prices that's all. Right before we wrap, 1923 01:34:17,520 --> 01:34:20,280 Speaker 2: up let's hear From Patrick everson From Vegas insiders and 1924 01:34:20,320 --> 01:34:21,360 Speaker 2: how things looked In Las. 1925 01:34:21,479 --> 01:34:24,160 Speaker 3: Vegas all, right thanks a, lot, Evan Patrick everson here 1926 01:34:24,160 --> 01:34:27,960 Speaker 3: For Vegas. Insider it's kind of. Interesting there was a 1927 01:34:27,960 --> 01:34:30,280 Speaker 3: lot of back and forth between the bookmakers and, betters 1928 01:34:30,439 --> 01:34:34,400 Speaker 3: but enough of the results fell, right particularly The Sunday 1929 01:34:34,439 --> 01:34:36,360 Speaker 3: night result that ended up being really. Key and the 1930 01:34:36,360 --> 01:34:39,280 Speaker 3: reason it was really key is you've got The Kansas 1931 01:34:39,280 --> 01:34:41,920 Speaker 3: City chiefs at, home and they're The Kansas City chiefs at, 1932 01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:44,639 Speaker 3: home It's Patrick. Mahomes the public is going to bet 1933 01:34:44,680 --> 01:34:46,800 Speaker 3: On Patrick, mahomes even A Patrick mahomes team that is 1934 01:34:46,840 --> 01:34:49,439 Speaker 3: six and six straight up and against the spread at 1935 01:34:49,479 --> 01:34:52,280 Speaker 3: home in a dire. Situation the public's gonna. Better so 1936 01:34:52,520 --> 01:34:54,439 Speaker 3: all the money line parlays that made it The Sunday 1937 01:34:54,520 --> 01:34:58,400 Speaker 3: night went to The. Chiefs and what happened there was 1938 01:34:58,439 --> 01:35:00,840 Speaker 3: if a book was having a bad, day it kind 1939 01:35:00,840 --> 01:35:03,120 Speaker 3: of salvaged the day and made it mediocre at. Least 1940 01:35:03,360 --> 01:35:05,040 Speaker 3: and if the book was having a good, day then 1941 01:35:05,040 --> 01:35:08,639 Speaker 3: The texans outright win twenty to ten made it a great. 1942 01:35:08,760 --> 01:35:12,040 Speaker 3: Day there was one odds maker In Las vegas who, noted, 1943 01:35:12,320 --> 01:35:14,760 Speaker 3: look this pretty much salvaged the day for. Us we 1944 01:35:14,800 --> 01:35:18,679 Speaker 3: needed The texans to, win and the under in order 1945 01:35:18,720 --> 01:35:20,639 Speaker 3: to it was the difference between winning and a losing. 1946 01:35:20,680 --> 01:35:22,680 Speaker 3: Day they were going to lose to the day if 1947 01:35:22,720 --> 01:35:25,080 Speaker 3: The chiefs even just won that, game and certainly if 1948 01:35:25,080 --> 01:35:28,120 Speaker 3: The chiefs, won it. Covered another odds maker, said, look 1949 01:35:28,160 --> 01:35:31,280 Speaker 3: we had a pretty good day in THE nfl On, 1950 01:35:31,439 --> 01:35:35,559 Speaker 3: sunday and this prior to The chiefs And texans kicking, 1951 01:35:35,600 --> 01:35:38,040 Speaker 3: Off and the odds maker, said if The texans win, 1952 01:35:38,080 --> 01:35:41,160 Speaker 3: tonight we'll go from good to. Great so that odds 1953 01:35:41,160 --> 01:35:43,280 Speaker 3: maker went from good to, great And i'm guessing a 1954 01:35:43,280 --> 01:35:45,880 Speaker 3: whole lot of others did as. Well it was definitely 1955 01:35:45,920 --> 01:35:48,000 Speaker 3: a really good, result but unfortunately for all of us 1956 01:35:48,040 --> 01:35:49,439 Speaker 3: on this side of the, counter a lot at least 1957 01:35:49,439 --> 01:35:53,519 Speaker 3: the public betting masses who weren't necessarily on The Houston 1958 01:35:53,560 --> 01:35:56,560 Speaker 3: texans not buying into The texans yet that result was 1959 01:35:56,640 --> 01:35:59,080 Speaker 3: kind of a day. Breaker so, again if you, know 1960 01:35:59,120 --> 01:36:01,560 Speaker 3: some books really altage today and turn it into a 1961 01:36:01,600 --> 01:36:04,320 Speaker 3: little something or at least a break, even and others 1962 01:36:04,400 --> 01:36:06,880 Speaker 3: did really well because of all the money mine parlors 1963 01:36:06,880 --> 01:36:09,800 Speaker 3: they got blown up by The Houston texans in The 1964 01:36:09,840 --> 01:36:14,000 Speaker 3: sunday night. Game Draft kings was surely among them and 1965 01:36:14,280 --> 01:36:16,599 Speaker 3: probably needed it as, well because when you look at 1966 01:36:16,760 --> 01:36:20,240 Speaker 3: who betters were on At Draft kings ON Nfl week Fourteen, 1967 01:36:20,360 --> 01:36:24,839 Speaker 3: sunday the most bets On sunday At Draft kings against 1968 01:36:24,880 --> 01:36:31,040 Speaker 3: the spread by ticket Count, Seahawks, Bears. Bengals seahawks cover, 1969 01:36:31,120 --> 01:36:34,360 Speaker 3: Easily bears do. Not they narrowly do not. Cover they 1970 01:36:34,360 --> 01:36:37,559 Speaker 3: were six and a half point underdogs and lost by. 1971 01:36:37,920 --> 01:36:40,479 Speaker 3: Seven and then The bengals were the third most bet, 1972 01:36:40,479 --> 01:36:43,320 Speaker 3: team and The bengals did cover even though they Let 1973 01:36:43,360 --> 01:36:45,640 Speaker 3: buffalo have this crazy comeback in the fourth quart of 1974 01:36:45,640 --> 01:36:48,280 Speaker 3: The bengals still cover the, spread and then by spread 1975 01:36:48,320 --> 01:36:52,080 Speaker 3: money At DraftKings those same three teams in that same Order, Seahawks, Bears, 1976 01:36:52,120 --> 01:36:54,720 Speaker 3: Bengals so The seahawks and The bengals both got there 1977 01:36:54,720 --> 01:36:57,120 Speaker 3: for the, betters while The bears just felt just to 1978 01:36:57,200 --> 01:37:01,240 Speaker 3: tick short other teams at Raft. Kings THAT i MEAN 1979 01:37:01,280 --> 01:37:03,120 Speaker 3: i alluded to The seahawks. Already that was obviously a 1980 01:37:03,120 --> 01:37:06,240 Speaker 3: good outcome for the customers At Draft. Kings so too 1981 01:37:06,479 --> 01:37:09,680 Speaker 3: was The La rams taking it to The Arizona. Cardinals 1982 01:37:10,240 --> 01:37:12,400 Speaker 3: there were a lot of tickets and money run to 1983 01:37:12,439 --> 01:37:15,960 Speaker 3: The La rams and on straight, bets and surely in 1984 01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:18,240 Speaker 3: parlays and so, forth but they were all over The 1985 01:37:18,320 --> 01:37:20,080 Speaker 3: rams on the spread At Draft kings based on the 1986 01:37:20,080 --> 01:37:23,000 Speaker 3: betting splits that they sent, over and again they were 1987 01:37:23,000 --> 01:37:26,000 Speaker 3: probably in all the money line parlays as. Well so generally, 1988 01:37:26,040 --> 01:37:28,920 Speaker 3: speaking probably a winning day for the, books or at 1989 01:37:28,960 --> 01:37:30,840 Speaker 3: least a break even day for the, books and the 1990 01:37:30,840 --> 01:37:32,680 Speaker 3: betters take it on the, chin even though they may 1991 01:37:32,720 --> 01:37:35,000 Speaker 3: have done good in spots in some of the early. 1992 01:37:35,040 --> 01:37:38,680 Speaker 3: Games they know they definitely gave it back in that 1993 01:37:38,800 --> 01:37:41,720 Speaker 3: night game With texans and The, chiefs no. Question and 1994 01:37:41,720 --> 01:37:43,479 Speaker 3: then of course you had that bad beat between The 1995 01:37:43,479 --> 01:37:45,519 Speaker 3: broncos and The. Raiders The broncos were covering and the 1996 01:37:45,560 --> 01:37:48,000 Speaker 3: game was dead under and The raiders got a field 1997 01:37:48,040 --> 01:37:49,800 Speaker 3: goal with no time left on the clock to not 1998 01:37:49,880 --> 01:37:52,960 Speaker 3: only pull within the spread losing by, seven but also 1999 01:37:53,160 --> 01:37:55,360 Speaker 3: take that game over forty and a. Half it ended 2000 01:37:55,439 --> 01:37:58,719 Speaker 3: up on forty one In, denvers twenty four seventeen, victory 2001 01:37:59,479 --> 01:38:02,080 Speaker 3: scooting us ahead to The Money night game to wrap, 2002 01:38:02,200 --> 01:38:04,679 Speaker 3: Up it's All eagles At Draft kings on the. Spread 2003 01:38:04,680 --> 01:38:07,000 Speaker 3: you're looking at about three to one tickets and money 2004 01:38:07,439 --> 01:38:10,960 Speaker 3: On philly on the spread against The Los Angeles, charters 2005 01:38:10,960 --> 01:38:12,960 Speaker 3: and The eagles certainly need to. Win they head the 2006 01:38:13,320 --> 01:38:16,040 Speaker 3: bumpy ride Over thanksgiving weekend losing On Black friday at 2007 01:38:16,040 --> 01:38:19,120 Speaker 3: home to The, bears so they are definitely on The. 2008 01:38:19,160 --> 01:38:21,120 Speaker 3: Eagles they're even taking The eagles money. Line it's like 2009 01:38:21,120 --> 01:38:22,840 Speaker 3: three to one, tickets four to one money on the 2010 01:38:22,840 --> 01:38:24,639 Speaker 3: money line on The. Eagles they're even laying the minus 2011 01:38:24,640 --> 01:38:27,000 Speaker 3: one thirty instead of the two and a half and 2012 01:38:27,160 --> 01:38:30,720 Speaker 3: just taking The eagles to win that. Game now for 2013 01:38:30,760 --> 01:38:33,080 Speaker 3: a much more a week, fifteen head on over To Vegas. 2014 01:38:33,080 --> 01:38:36,679 Speaker 3: Insider i've got my COMPLETE Nfl week fifteen opening odds 2015 01:38:36,680 --> 01:38:39,280 Speaker 3: and action report. 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