Speaker 1: Jack stop deep throating the mic, Jesus throating the mic? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he stops spitting on it too. Can you stop
Speaker 1: hot hot too?
Speaker 2: It? Had you seen that video of her saying concrete
Speaker 2: jungle wet dream Tomato, that's her.
Speaker 1: That's the same one.
Speaker 2: That's the same girl.
Speaker 1: Okay, she's funny.
Speaker 2: I know she's just fucking she. Don't get her a
Speaker 2: reality show.
Speaker 1: They are, They've signed her for all sorts of shit.
Speaker 2: I like that jay Z song Concrete Jungle Wet dreams
Speaker 2: to make ato.
Speaker 1: Okay, first I thought you didn't know what she was,
Speaker 1: but she knows what she's doing.
Speaker 2: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three point fifty one,
Speaker 2: Episode five of Dardilly's I Guys Stay production of iHeart Radio.
Speaker 2: This is a podcast where we take a deep dive
Speaker 2: into america shared consciousness. And it is Friday, August sixteenth,
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, eight sixteen, twenty four. We're counting by
Speaker 2: eights here, folks. I've been waiting for it. It's a
Speaker 2: mathematical day of some sort. That's that's official. I'm a
Speaker 2: math expert. Anyways. My name's Jack O'Brien aka one Love, Nope,
Speaker 2: one Glove one couch. Let's fuck the cushion and feel
Speaker 2: all right? That one courtesy of Lacaroni on the Discord,
Speaker 2: in reference to our erstwhile gop VP nominee. I don't
Speaker 2: know if I used erstwow correctly, but anyways, he's he
Speaker 2: is the gop VP nominee, and he may or may
Speaker 2: not have fucked a couch. I'm thrilled to be joined
Speaker 2: by a very special guest co host, a hilarious stand
Speaker 2: up comedian, writer, actor improviser. You could catch her on
Speaker 2: stage all the time just go to her website, but
Speaker 2: definitely at the monthly Facial Recognition comedy show, which she
Speaker 2: also produces. It's Polygala.
Speaker 3: Well, I have.
Speaker 4: A fun idea, then maybe it just changed your mind.
Speaker 4: I know you're craving a win now and Camala is
Speaker 4: just so nice and we could live so happily if
Speaker 4: no one knows your miny's policies. I'm computed, but really,
Speaker 4: really really.
Speaker 5: Please please please don't be the right. Please please please
Speaker 5: don't bring me to.
Speaker 4: Tears when I just did my taxes so right. Heartbreak
Speaker 4: is one thing, imperialisms another. I beg you don't embarrass me, motherfucker.
Speaker 4: Ah please please please.
Speaker 1: My last part and poorly, but the idea nailed it.
Speaker 2: You nailed it.
Speaker 1: I nailed it.
Speaker 2: I nailed That was wonderful.
Speaker 1: That was because you were talking about all the gen
Speaker 1: Z artists that that's Sabrina Carpenter for you.
Speaker 2: Jack, of course it is Sabrina Carpenter. And that's how
Speaker 2: I feel.
Speaker 1: I feel so embarrassed by everything right now.
Speaker 2: I know Jesus Christ did. That was just off off
Speaker 2: the dome. That was apoll of the original.
Speaker 1: That I prepped that one. I always have to prep
Speaker 1: because I'm very bad.
Speaker 2: That was beautiful. Well done. You thank you so much
Speaker 2: for joining us all week.
Speaker 1: Tipurators so fun.
Speaker 2: It's been here all week, folks. We are thrilled Paulavi
Speaker 2: to be joined in our third seat by a brilliant filmmaker, writer, actor, comedian,
Speaker 2: podcaster who co founded small Beans, which the av Club
Speaker 2: called one of the best podcast networks where you can
Speaker 2: find uh. He and a bunch of the talented people
Speaker 2: we worked with at Cracked creating content. He co hosted
Speaker 2: the Cracked podcast with me made and started in a
Speaker 2: bunch of the best videos we made there just dropped
Speaker 2: the audiobook of his brilliant first novel, The Climb. Please
Speaker 2: welcome the brilliant and talented Michael Swam.
Speaker 3: Everybody, Michael Swam a A K forty seven. Boom boom,
Speaker 3: You're dead. I win. A certain segment of America loves me.
Speaker 3: I get free fast food.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, wait, free fast food is the best.
Speaker 2: How are you, Michael? It's great, great to have you
Speaker 2: back on the show.
Speaker 3: Been too man, Always good to be here.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I had to duck out last time we SYNCD up
Speaker 3: because of a severe medical issue. So yeah, I'm much better. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Those scary.
Speaker 3: It's like the day of They never found out what
Speaker 3: it was, which is scary.
Speaker 2: Too and also fun. You know, keeps people guessing, keeps
Speaker 2: the mystery of life.
Speaker 3: All though since then, I've been to the Year Separate
Speaker 3: Things once in an ambulance. Geez, I'm on a good streak.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: I hope you're training to be a paramedic.
Speaker 3: Oh, they were all just informational ride alongs. Yeah, interesting professions. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm still sending Jack pitches. Are you not getting my pitches?
Speaker 3: Did you spam me?
Speaker 2: Dude?
Speaker 3: You spam folder me.
Speaker 1: That's like how I had to shoot someone. But that
Speaker 1: was just in a ride along to be a police officer.
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, I love the ride alongs. Michael. We
Speaker 2: are going to get to know you a little bit
Speaker 2: better in a moment. First, we're going to tell the
Speaker 2: listeners a couple of things we're talking about. We have
Speaker 2: secrets behind the scenes videos of one of the architects
Speaker 2: of Project twenty twenty five talking about that, so we
Speaker 2: have just a little bit better insight into what it
Speaker 2: all means, what they're planning. We'll talk about RFK Junior
Speaker 2: trying to meet with Kamala Harris to get a cabinet job.
Speaker 2: That's not going well for him.
Speaker 1: Secretary of the brainworm, Yes.
Speaker 2: I mean he has specific asks that you would think
Speaker 2: the whole brainworm of it all would get in the way.
Speaker 2: But ah, the balls on this guy.
Speaker 1: He's getting gratituded by the brainworm.
Speaker 2: Is this brainworm the most ambitious brainworm of all times?
Speaker 1: Please find some soil demand shed put new top soil down.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about that. We'll talk about maybe a Laura
Speaker 2: Ingram conspiracy. Maybe this uh AI image generator the grock
Speaker 2: on it on Twitter. Yeah, it's always fun when a
Speaker 2: new AI image generator comes out and they haven't been
Speaker 2: sued enough yet to like rein it in all of
Speaker 2: that plenty more. But first, Michael Swayin, we do like
Speaker 2: to ask our guest, what is something from your search
Speaker 2: history that is revealing about who you are?
Speaker 3: Search item? Disco le see them large Thought Cabinet print
Speaker 3: canvas over four hundred and fifty dollars, because even though
Speaker 3: I'm between giants right now, every once in a while
Speaker 3: you have to just go nuts. I didn't find one
Speaker 3: that I could purchase. I'm really if people who have
Speaker 3: played Disco Elysium, which is a great point and click
Speaker 3: adventure game that's just super well written and highly politically
Speaker 3: charged and trippy as all get out. And there's this
Speaker 3: brilliant like the stats image is pretty notable. It's called
Speaker 3: the Thought Cabinet. And I'm trying, I am trying to
Speaker 3: find a print, but all the prints I can find,
Speaker 3: I think don't treat it with enough respect. So like
Speaker 3: I want a really nice, big one, like a mature
Speaker 3: adult copy of this thing from this video game, and
Speaker 3: it's hard to find, so I might just buy the
Speaker 3: eighty dollars cheap.
Speaker 2: Like a print canvas that would like go up on
Speaker 2: your wall or this is it's huge.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want a really big canvas that treats it
Speaker 3: like a realing because it is a real painting.
Speaker 2: Now. I don't play a lot of video games, sure,
Speaker 2: but I do like to have video games described to me,
Speaker 2: and I find it's very entertaining. So I am curious
Speaker 2: to hear more about disco Elysium.
Speaker 3: Yeah. It's very very text and like dialogue heavy. It's
Speaker 3: about a broken down, alcoholic, amnesiac cop in a sort
Speaker 3: of alternate history Europe that's fractured into a bunch of
Speaker 3: tiny nation states and you do things like internalize Mazovian
Speaker 3: socioeconomics is like an action you take in the RPG
Speaker 3: or various like it's all about your internal thought process
Speaker 3: and it's very hard to describe, but you can find
Speaker 3: a lot of info on it. It was one of
Speaker 3: the notable games of the year. What's really funny about
Speaker 3: it is it's super super leftist and like take down
Speaker 3: the Man, communism is cool, et cetera. And it just
Speaker 3: got option to be an Amazon series, which is like.
Speaker 2: Chi ching Bezos has been radicalized. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just.
Speaker 1: Had to google so many words and I wrote.
Speaker 3: Disco Elsium's the name of the game, and then I was.
Speaker 1: Like, Masovian socio economics. Yeah, what does I prefer to
Speaker 1: be a leftist who doesn't read?
Speaker 2: Yeah, too much homework involved in that sounds like a lot, But.
Speaker 1: That in a TikTok video and I will spread misinformation.
Speaker 2: Like wow, I do like tiny nation states like that.
Speaker 2: That is something from history that always like just reading
Speaker 2: about early Italian or Greek history where it was like
Speaker 2: warring the warring nations were were the equivalent of like
Speaker 2: rival like small town football teams. It was like, you know,
Speaker 2: twenty thousand people over here, twenty thousand people over there.
Speaker 3: Maybe I should have said satellite states because this is
Speaker 3: definitely like half and half hard boiled detective and eighties
Speaker 3: like USSR fracturing into Okay, thanks got it?
Speaker 2: Nice sounds fun. What is something that you think is underrated? Michael, Yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Was just talking about this last night with a friend
Speaker 3: because the new Steven Soderberg movies kind of far presence shot.
Speaker 3: It's a ghost movie and a haunted house shot from
Speaker 3: the point of view of the ghost. It looks very interesting.
Speaker 3: But regardless, dude did so much and I find because
Speaker 3: I talk about film exhaustively with all my friends. It's
Speaker 3: what we mainly talk about. And when you go best
Speaker 3: director ever, you always immediately surface and I don't you
Speaker 3: don't necessarily agree with all of them. That's too long
Speaker 3: to get into. But the ones we say, you know,
Speaker 3: like Tuarantying now, Kubrick, Spielberg, and no one ever says
Speaker 3: Steven Soderberg, and it's insane that we don't because he
Speaker 3: is up there with those people dudes all dud's unfortunately,
Speaker 3: but but yeah, Soderbergh's awesome. That's my unsane. So good
Speaker 3: shot on phones I hate because my ID, you know,
Speaker 3: trying to break into Hollywood. I'd always say, you need
Speaker 3: there's these gatekeepers and you need so much money. And
Speaker 3: my Mom's like, just shoot it on your phone. I'm like,
Speaker 3: you don't get it, Mom. Then fucking Steven Soderbergh's like,
Speaker 3: I'll do it. I think you're cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: They did that with like Monkey Man too, because like
Speaker 1: they had so many issues in filming that and like
Speaker 1: their cameras got messed up and it was COVID and.
Speaker 3: They went like phones.
Speaker 1: They had to do some scenes on phone, and it
Speaker 1: ended up being really cool because they like would do
Speaker 1: like a swinging effect with it, and it was like
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, this is really scrappy and I
Speaker 1: love it so much. But also I'm like, yeah, there's
Speaker 1: no excuse for us to not make great things.
Speaker 2: And I hate that sometimes FaceTime does interrupt the shot
Speaker 2: and you just have to be okay with that. You
Speaker 2: just have to from your mom asking you why you're
Speaker 2: not shooting on how.
Speaker 1: Come you can direct a full movie but you can't
Speaker 1: direct your parents how to use the front face and
Speaker 1: camera correctly.
Speaker 3: I just always write in a robot character that vibrates
Speaker 3: occasionally so you can keep rolling through it.
Speaker 1: And every movie I just put it romantic comedy.
Speaker 2: The robot are your number one sodaberg movies like like
Speaker 2: give me your top five soda Burgh? Are they the
Speaker 2: ones that like people have seen? Are they the ones
Speaker 2: that people like haven't heard it? Because he really mixes
Speaker 2: it up like that, there will be that's the other
Speaker 2: films in there with Oceans eleven, I know.
Speaker 1: I was like, it'd be so funny if Michael was
Speaker 1: like Ocean's eleven, Oceans twelve.
Speaker 3: Thirteen stands up. I think traffic, of course, is a biggie.
Speaker 3: I'm looking through everything.
Speaker 1: What was the first one, you said.
Speaker 3: Aaron Brackovic aon Yeah, unsane, he did Magic Mike's Last Stance.
Speaker 3: I really like Solaris as well. I'm looking through here.
Speaker 3: I really like the Informants really good. Yeah, yeah, because
Speaker 3: he almost always does some kind of weird restriction that
Speaker 3: I find really interesting. So for like he did the
Speaker 3: phone's front saying for sex size and videotape they shot
Speaker 3: on VHS videotape quite intentionally for the Informant. It has
Speaker 3: that concept where it's like, what if a character's internal
Speaker 3: monologue did not comport with what was going on around them,
Speaker 3: Like he's never thinking about what the scene's about, which
Speaker 3: is so I just find he does these bold maneuvers
Speaker 3: that I really really respect. And yeah, Ocean's eleven put
Speaker 3: it on there. It was undeniable, gun deniably great movie.
Speaker 3: You got us entertained by a whole movie just being
Speaker 3: the gang getting together montage and then an explanation of
Speaker 3: how in retrospect we did the heist already and it's done,
Speaker 3: like that's so simple. Yeah, and Brad Pit eating an apple.
Speaker 2: God, he's so good at eating it's great.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what is something you think is overratedes, okay, shit,
Speaker 2: dessert everything.
Speaker 3: I don't know if this is just me or if
Speaker 3: other people are experiencing this in the world, because like
Speaker 3: we obviously did a ZEITGEISTI in turn where now it's
Speaker 3: dark chocolate out paste milk chocolate, which when I was younger,
Speaker 3: it was milk chocolate everywhere. Yeah, s'mores are everywhere now
Speaker 3: that I'm seeing there's like s'mores flavored so yeahes things
Speaker 3: trying to taste like smores. It's a stupid word, has
Speaker 3: needless apostrophe. Some moores, you want some moores? Fuck you
Speaker 3: get out of here, dry cracker, Like, I don't understand
Speaker 3: why other better things, like a fine chocolate at a
Speaker 3: chocolate tears, are trying to taste like s'mores.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a thing that's like a nostalgia thing of like
Speaker 1: being around a bonfire, being it like at a like
Speaker 1: going camping, And they're trying to take that and change
Speaker 1: the ethos of it to make it like fancier or
Speaker 1: different or whatever. And it's like the reason this is
Speaker 1: good is for the memories. You know. If I'm sitting
Speaker 1: at home like eating us more, I'm like, this is
Speaker 1: not this is sad.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my argument is just eat chocolate and throw glow
Speaker 3: sticks into the fire because they explode and then you
Speaker 3: glow and it's awesome. Yeah, I probably carcinogenic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's probably not good for you. And then the
Speaker 2: glowing gas.
Speaker 1: Different than I do and you're so sick.
Speaker 3: We did do that, that was one of our And
Speaker 3: then yeah, because they get hot and boil and pop
Speaker 3: and then you have dots of glowing ship all over
Speaker 3: you and you play hide and seek and there.
Speaker 2: Well, god, really that sounds really super fun, psychedelic and fun.
Speaker 3: It would make a good nostalgic like jj abrams be seen. Yeah,
Speaker 3: kids playing Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: I think you zeroed in on it with the dry crackers.
Speaker 2: You mentioned the dry crackers of the s'mores, And I
Speaker 2: think that it's always the thing that when.
Speaker 3: I crackers and marshmallows are mid they're not They're not bad.
Speaker 1: They're marshmallows are really good.
Speaker 2: What mygan marshmallows.
Speaker 1: Marshmallows think you're better than regular marketers. And I'm but
Speaker 1: like when I was vegetarian, like my meat eating friends,
Speaker 1: they would do that thing where they're like this is
Speaker 1: actually better than the original.
Speaker 2: Wow, I actually believe you.
Speaker 3: You ever hear people say vagan and go what vegan? Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm encountering vegan lately too, vegan broccoli?
Speaker 2: Is that? Are they saying vagan like instead of the vegan?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, instead of I'm hearing vegan pronounced vegan.
Speaker 2: But are they doing it as a bit like I'm
Speaker 2: vaguely vegan? No, no, actually vegan. They're doing it like
Speaker 2: more acute vegan.
Speaker 3: And yeah, I think it's like they're implying that it's
Speaker 3: the proper pronunciation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm so vegan that.
Speaker 1: It feels against it. Like this is like meat eaters saying, like, what,
Speaker 1: how can we make them more fucking annoy? Right?
Speaker 2: Have you ever had? I mean, I guess if you
Speaker 2: don't like two of the three ingredients, you're probably off.
Speaker 2: But if you replace the dry crackers with some moist cookies,
Speaker 2: it's actually pretty good.
Speaker 3: And like, oh yeah, squishy chocolate chip cookie sandwich with
Speaker 3: marshmallow and cho marshmallow and chocolate chocolate. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay, now you guys sound like you're trying to elevate
Speaker 1: this more. Again, it sounds like you're doing.
Speaker 2: We're doing a bit of an elevated some more concept.
Speaker 1: A deconstructed construction.
Speaker 2: And also like the dry crackers, just like crumble too much.
Speaker 2: They're just you take a bite into them and it's
Speaker 2: now in forty five pieces.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: That's the beauty of it. That's why we can't escape
Speaker 1: the nature Valley Granola Bar. We love the mess. We're
Speaker 1: just messy bitches.
Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that is my think. I
Speaker 2: just need that shit to be like crumbs in the bag,
Speaker 2: crumbling on my chest, bag baby.
Speaker 3: Yeah, bums in the streets, crumbs in the sheets.
Speaker 2: I also, you mentioned that we went from milk chocolate
Speaker 2: to dark chocolate, and I'm I want to go back
Speaker 2: me too.
Speaker 1: I love the chocolate. It always felt like dark chocolate
Speaker 1: people were like very pretentious because they made me feel
Speaker 1: bad about it.
Speaker 3: They're like thirty just as a treat sometime when you
Speaker 3: want to feel extra adult and you have that acquired taste,
Speaker 3: fifty percent sixty seventy percent dark chocolate, and it's all
Speaker 3: you can get at the grocery store.
Speaker 1: We have control over the percent of dark chocolate. Everything
Speaker 1: in the rest of your life is crumbling. But if
Speaker 1: you were able to take this bitterness, just like you
Speaker 1: are your in your beer. Then you can take the
Speaker 1: fact that your wife Susan left you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just.
Speaker 2: Eat baking cocoa actually, and that's my preferred form of
Speaker 2: chocolate intake trend raw dog and coco coco.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I feel like it's for people who take pride in
Speaker 2: the wrong things about being an adult. You know, they're
Speaker 2: just like suffering. I've had people say to it, be
Speaker 2: like you like chocolate, Oh, you like like dark chocolate,
Speaker 2: Like how dark?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: They want to get into like a dark chocolate darkness off.
Speaker 1: And I'm saying that I don't feels very Silicon Valley
Speaker 1: tech bro. I'm having like flashbacks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, leave me out of your sick fucking game man. Anyways,
Speaker 2: Milk chocolate for life. Let's take a quick break and
Speaker 2: we'll be right back. And we're back. Milk chocolate also
Speaker 2: like a lower melting.
Speaker 3: Point, right so, and yeah, uses, I'm my understanding unless
Speaker 3: I'm wrong or what I've heard, is that less bad
Speaker 3: for the environment. In the same way, Greek yogurt is
Speaker 3: tougher on the supply chain because.
Speaker 2: It's like so denser and traded.
Speaker 3: You're like, let me use even more cow cow cocaw. Now,
Speaker 3: let me cram even more in there, even more densely,
Speaker 3: and eat it all at once like a little chocolate pig.
Speaker 2: Yeah, chool, what's that ship that they'd be smoking? Cocow
Speaker 2: the reference to an obscure method man track. All right, Uh,
Speaker 2: let's get into it. So Project twenty twenty five we've
Speaker 2: been told we should be afraid of it. But then
Speaker 2: Donald Trump was like, I don't even know what what
Speaker 2: are you? Are you saying project project? I'm not I'm
Speaker 2: not even sure what that is, and then like distanced
Speaker 2: himself from it. People who were involved with it have
Speaker 2: been fired from his campaign, and like they really seemed
Speaker 2: to be kind of concerned about people finding out what
Speaker 2: Project twenty twenty five is and dissociating it with them. However,
Speaker 2: they're not so concerned that they're not actually planning on
Speaker 2: fully instituting this shit the second they get in the
Speaker 2: White House. So a British journalism nonprofit went undercover posing
Speaker 2: as relatives of a wealthy conservative donor.
Speaker 1: It's so easy, you have any chocolate straw bear.
Speaker 3: They're British, So they went under sheet.
Speaker 1: Just Project twenty twenty five is bad, isn't it?
Speaker 3: In it?
Speaker 2: You're doing Project twenty.
Speaker 1: Twenty massively so bad.
Speaker 2: But you know, they had their suspicions, but not enough
Speaker 2: to turn down. They were talking about a seven figure
Speaker 2: donation to his think tank, and god, we need to
Speaker 2: keep the think tanks in operation, the right wing think
Speaker 2: tanks in Washington. So they record an interview with this
Speaker 2: guy whose name I think it was Russell Vote or
Speaker 2: it's like Vought, Yeah, Russell Vote, and he is a
Speaker 2: former Trump Cabinet member, one of the key authors of
Speaker 2: Project twenty twenty five, and also one of the key
Speaker 2: authors of the Republican Platform, like at the RNC a
Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago. So like this project that they're claiming,
Speaker 2: they're like, we don't even know about her. Who what
Speaker 2: It's written by the same people who write their fucking platform.
Speaker 3: Never heard of him. He walks by in the background,
Speaker 3: hair exactly.
Speaker 2: Russell is, uh, how do you pronounced vo ughd?
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say Vought like the boys, like evil, evil
Speaker 3: bastard to watch the boys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is so funny that that's that is such
Speaker 1: a prominent show right now, and it's like such a
Speaker 1: well known I wonder if there's any Vought as in
Speaker 1: Vought industries yes.
Speaker 2: So he is also being mentioned as possible White House
Speaker 2: Chief of Staff in Trump's next administration. So because very cool,
Speaker 2: but totally Trump has no idea about any of this
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five stuff. What he said was essentially kind
Speaker 2: of what we already suspected. He said, Trump's distancing himself
Speaker 2: from Project twenty twenty five, but it's like purely politics.
Speaker 2: He asked why we can't demand that people immigrating to
Speaker 2: the United States be Christians. He described his stance as
Speaker 2: Christian nationism. He was like, I'm not quite Christian nationalism,
Speaker 2: but Christian nation is prefer.
Speaker 1: A purer word.
Speaker 2: Technically, you're too soft, and Away said be spare but true,
Speaker 2: but also racist but also racist. And you did kind
Speaker 2: of say that his own way, his shotgun to the face.
Speaker 2: His plans also include to restrict pornography and.
Speaker 1: Okay, and for that, I'm out. I'm sorry, I lost,
Speaker 1: and I'm curious. When he said Christian right.
Speaker 2: Does feel like one that they are going to like,
Speaker 2: he even acknowledges He's like, and so with the pornography band,
Speaker 2: we're gonna have to like backdoor that one, so to speak.
Speaker 3: And you know what I mean, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Uh, not to use my favorite search phrase, but we're
Speaker 2: gonna have to backdoor that one.
Speaker 3: But I think we need to double penetrate the public consciousness.
Speaker 1: Car throat what we're giving them.
Speaker 2: Yes, but also they have this plan to like do
Speaker 2: the biggest mass deportation of all time and basically start
Speaker 2: a culture war around it, and then that will like,
Speaker 2: it's like that will start a conversation that they will
Speaker 2: then use to like win the argument on multiculturalism. It's
Speaker 2: just yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Heard a Dana Dana I forget what her last name
Speaker 1: is interview with Jadie Vance where she just like eviscerated
Speaker 1: him for like twenty minutes. And he was asked about
Speaker 1: this deportation thing because they want to deport fifteen million
Speaker 1: people within the US, and she was like, logistically, how
Speaker 1: the fuck is that going to happen? And he was like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, you got to close the borders, because the
Speaker 1: borders are and he had literally just said that Kamala
Speaker 1: Harris had no power as we but he was like,
Speaker 1: but she's in charge of the border and he couldn't
Speaker 1: but he couldn't answer like how they were going to
Speaker 1: do that or what the what would happen from that.
Speaker 1: But they're talking about fifteen million people.
Speaker 3: Right, No, I mean physically buses, planes, What are we
Speaker 3: talking exactly?
Speaker 1: And he's door to door asking for papers, like.
Speaker 3: We've thought of that. We're a think tank. I have
Speaker 3: to go.
Speaker 1: You know, we stay thinking all the time. Of course
Speaker 1: we have a plan to supposedly, I'm thinking.
Speaker 2: We're not a think car, We're not even a thing bus.
Speaker 2: We're a think tank and America think tanks. Yeah, let
Speaker 2: me see what he said. Okay, all right, DHS, we
Speaker 2: want to have the largest deportation. What are your actual
Speaker 2: memos that a secretary sends out to do it? Like,
Speaker 2: here's an executive order, regulation, secretarial memos. Those are the
Speaker 2: types of things that need to be thought through, so
Speaker 2: you're not you're not having to scramble or do that
Speaker 2: later on. So they're basically saying they have all the
Speaker 2: memos drafted to deport you know, millions and millions of people.
Speaker 3: They're also doing ap government to the vice presidential They're like,
Speaker 3: so there's the legislative branch and there's the yeahs taking notes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, another hidden video what one of the projects? Twenty
Speaker 2: twenty five people said of all the work that they've
Speaker 2: done in advance. It's a big fat stack of papers
Speaker 2: that will be distributed during the transition period. You don't
Speaker 2: actually like send them to their work emails in order
Speaker 2: to avoid disclosure under the Freedom of Information Act. So
Speaker 2: they're already preparing the to hide the documents. So that
Speaker 2: so it's like already just like a secret plan to
Speaker 2: make the country more white and Christian, which is, I
Speaker 2: guess what you would expect. But it's just so bald
Speaker 2: faced as.
Speaker 1: Let's just leave and take our food with us. I'm
Speaker 1: sick of this shit, you know what I mean? Yeah,
Speaker 1: God speak to them without our seasoning. Okay.
Speaker 3: Also, if you ever find yourself in a position where
Speaker 3: you're like, okay, shut up, shut up, we're the good guys.
Speaker 3: We're the good guys. But don't tell anyone what we're
Speaker 3: talking about because it's so fucked up. Okay, Okay, this
Speaker 3: is good that we're doing this. Examine self examine at
Speaker 3: that point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And the other thing that they recognized that Trump
Speaker 2: had like a lot of leakers in his first administration,
Speaker 2: Like there was a lot of inefficiencies, and this guy's
Speaker 2: basically like, we are going to be prepared to totally.
Speaker 2: You know it's going to be only died in wool
Speaker 2: megaites in his administration.
Speaker 3: Is no one in this room could be all.
Speaker 2: Those and this guy is clearly the best at testing
Speaker 2: the purity of someone's conviction.
Speaker 3: Giant foam hat with a camera in it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they said they have like dozens of cameras all
Speaker 2: over the hotel room.
Speaker 3: It's it's like to catch a predator. Yeah, there's a host.
Speaker 1: Rudy Giuliana heard that and turned around.
Speaker 2: There's do they ever do that? And to catch a predator?
Speaker 2: Like I actually never watched the show. Do they actually
Speaker 2: do the reveal where they're like, there's a camera there,
Speaker 2: there's a camera there, Like they didn't to.
Speaker 3: Pour fifteen million people? Yeah? I don't think so. You're
Speaker 3: you're on reality TV?
Speaker 1: Oh oh you it's like punked. Oh you guys really
Speaker 1: got me?
Speaker 2: You got you saw the text.
Speaker 3: I'm from long long term.
Speaker 1: I think what I'm confused on is it feels like
Speaker 1: they've been working on Project twenty twenty five forever, like
Speaker 1: that's just like the Republican agenda. But it does seem
Speaker 1: a bit scarier that they put pen to paper and
Speaker 1: they do have these plans that are now visible to
Speaker 1: us of for example, deporting these fifteen million people. But
Speaker 1: I don't know it, just it feels like this is
Speaker 1: what they've been doing, Like has change.
Speaker 3: Chaney Cheney tried the same thing behind the scenes in secret.
Speaker 3: He called it like the Great Conservative Reboot or reconciliation
Speaker 3: or some shit. And it's always this idea of if
Speaker 3: we like cheat hard enough or do something, we can
Speaker 3: make it so it's Republicans forever and there's no other party.
Speaker 3: And it's like, you can't make millions of people decide
Speaker 3: that your way of life is correct. There's no way
Speaker 3: to force that. But they want.
Speaker 2: They're much better position to do it now with the judiciary,
Speaker 2: like with the Supreme Court, being to.
Speaker 3: Put their people in powered and push their policies. But
Speaker 3: I'm saying, you can't make people in their hearts go
Speaker 3: I do hate my trans friends, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I mean. But I think that's what I think.
Speaker 1: They want to just eliminate the trans friends, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like, I think that's the final solution.
Speaker 3: They're looking that's the end and game is fascism is
Speaker 3: yeah for Sate.
Speaker 2: I think one of the scariest things about Project twenty
Speaker 2: twenty five, because I think you're right that, like a
Speaker 2: lot of the details sound like a lot of the
Speaker 2: shit they tried in the first administration, sound like a
Speaker 2: lot of the other shit that Donald Trump says out loud.
Speaker 2: One of the scarier details is just like how much
Speaker 2: he's trying to distance himself from it. So, like the
Speaker 2: stuff in there must be terrifying. They're you know, like
Speaker 2: he's so he's like, I don't know what, because you do.
Speaker 3: Trump is a total right wing griff. But you will
Speaker 3: occasionally see him draw a line and it's literally out
Speaker 3: of narcissm. Like it's just when he's like, that's so unpopular,
Speaker 3: I clearly, So he's clearly getting blowback. Yeah, it's one percent.
Speaker 1: Because that's what like at all of our campaign rallies,
Speaker 1: like that's what Kamala is focusing on. They're all like,
Speaker 1: have you like that is the liberal call right now,
Speaker 1: is like we have to stop Trump because we have
Speaker 1: to stop Project twenty twenty five? Have you seen this
Speaker 1: stuff in there? And that's what's galvanizing people like very
Speaker 1: like liberal people to be terrified of another Trump presidency
Speaker 1: because it's all encapsulated in this one. You know, manifesto
Speaker 1: so well, and so Trump is seeing that and he's
Speaker 1: like that's bad press, you know, like like I'm not weird.
Speaker 1: JD Vance is weird, you know, So he's trying to
Speaker 1: like move his popularity back.
Speaker 2: They're saying that about JD.
Speaker 3: Not me.
Speaker 2: Nobody said I'm weird.
Speaker 1: I'm a pretty chill guy.
Speaker 2: Laura Ingram just had a segment on her show where
Speaker 2: she interviewed.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, can't believe I missed it?
Speaker 2: I know, did you not catch this one?
Speaker 1: Because oh my god, I usually catch all of them.
Speaker 1: It's insane.
Speaker 2: She had teenage mutant Ninja goobles on, and you know,
Speaker 2: to talk about why, like I guess there's a new
Speaker 2: stat that three point three million people immigrated to the
Speaker 2: US during the Biden administration. And just the way, first
Speaker 2: of all, like, as we covered in a recent episode,
Speaker 2: like the like immigrants are like the secret superpower of
Speaker 2: America's economy. They like make more money, like pay more
Speaker 2: in taxes, are less likely to commit crimes.
Speaker 3: Then also not that, not that long ago, that was
Speaker 3: our romantic vision of ourselves, was that we were a
Speaker 3: nation of immigrants who came together and made a melting
Speaker 3: pot and shit, everything we do is just the story
Speaker 3: we tell ourselves. But like we used to be proud
Speaker 3: of it and now we just flipped. It's weird.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Also they're like really, they sound like really good food
Speaker 1: to me all the time, shouts out mom and dad.
Speaker 2: So but their theory is that this is all purely
Speaker 2: a cynical ploy by the Democrats to like create more voters,
Speaker 2: and they're just like, yeah, they're just letting anybody in
Speaker 2: because they're more likely to vote Democrats.
Speaker 1: That's also the white replacement theory. That's like the idea
Speaker 1: who was who was there? Mean that more, it feels
Speaker 1: like more politicians now are despising missagenation, Like there was
Speaker 1: someone like close to Jade Dance. I can't remember who
Speaker 1: it was, but someone up there was I don't know,
Speaker 1: But like they're they're talking more and more about that
Speaker 1: as though it's like improper, while also trotting out these
Speaker 1: minorities as tokens to be like, see, we're not actually racist,
Speaker 1: it's fine, but also let's have more white babies, you know, right.
Speaker 2: But also you shouldn't be illegally allowed to marry these
Speaker 2: people who come to our rallies and we put front
Speaker 2: and center. Anyways, also the big Greg Abbott photo op
Speaker 2: where he was bussing immigrants. He was busting, busting, busting down.
Speaker 2: His bussing immigrants to other cities has stopped because they
Speaker 2: don't have enough people to like fill the buses. So
Speaker 2: disappointing news.
Speaker 1: Streaming doing that consistently and then he had to stop.
Speaker 2: He had to stop earlier this year. The last the
Speaker 2: last bus full of immigrants that they sent to New
Speaker 2: York was like January fucked up.
Speaker 1: I didn't know it was like consistently being done. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it were just allowed it to keep happening.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was doctor marioing all the other states just dropping.
Speaker 1: I thought that was I thought we all were like,
Speaker 1: this is illegal. It's like kidnapping. What the fuck?
Speaker 3: Oh dude, we say that about everything that they do.
Speaker 3: I know, but I do feel like half the stuff
Speaker 3: that happens, we go, well, that's illegal, and it turns
Speaker 3: out there's no such thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it turns out.
Speaker 1: Because it's just two scrolls on a post it note.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Anyways, Uh, on the other side of the ballot,
Speaker 2: we have some jockeying. So RFK Junior has been Mike King,
Speaker 2: Mike our king and who I will be voting for
Speaker 2: RFK Junior. No, he has I have the same brain worm.
Speaker 2: So and they're communicating with one another. Quantum entanglement, beautiful
Speaker 2: quantum entanglement which I learned from a Michael swam column
Speaker 2: a number of years ago. Shout out to you. And
Speaker 2: by the way, I just butchered it by suggesting two worms.
Speaker 2: It was about about how two brain worms can be edited.
Speaker 3: The article a bit.
Speaker 2: Two distant bodies acting on one.
Speaker 1: Now you go back and you read it, you're like,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of worm content.
Speaker 3: That I think I added Pixar monkey sphere.
Speaker 2: But so basically he is now lobbying. He has polling
Speaker 2: in hand that says that if he drops out and
Speaker 2: endorses one of the two candidates, will be really good
Speaker 2: for those candidates, for that candidate, whether it be Trump
Speaker 2: or Harris, and so he we we saw that clip
Speaker 2: of Trump talking to him on the phone, which went viral.
Speaker 2: It was like the week after Trump's attempted assassination and
Speaker 2: RFK was just like holding the phone out kind of
Speaker 2: frowning at it, while Trump was just like going on
Speaker 2: and on, and Yeah, I didn't realize he was being
Speaker 2: recorded was actually talking about how Biden like called him
Speaker 2: after the assassination attempt and like it was weird because
Speaker 2: like Trump was kind of impressed to be getting a
Speaker 2: call from the President. He was like, it's actually wild,
Speaker 2: uh the president president like, yeah, he was name dropping
Speaker 2: Biden and was like charmed by like the jokes that
Speaker 2: Biden was telling and stuff. But then he was like,
Speaker 2: but anyways, we're gonna win and handibal elector sugar deck,
Speaker 2: hand of elector batteries. But he also was emphasizing like
Speaker 2: it's it's a done deal. We're gonna win, and I
Speaker 2: agree with a lot of the stuff you say about vaccines,
Speaker 2: and in retrospect, it seems like this is Trump courting
Speaker 2: RFK Junior to like drop out of the race and
Speaker 2: endorse him. And then RFK Junior's like, I think now
Speaker 2: that he's seeing that that Like at the time, at
Speaker 2: the time of that phone call, it was like the
Speaker 2: mainstream media's belief that it was a done deal, like
Speaker 2: it was over. It was after the debate, before Biden
Speaker 2: had dropped out, and now that it things seemed to
Speaker 2: be Momentum seems to be shifting towards the Democrats and
Speaker 2: the Harris campaign. It seems like RFK is reaching out
Speaker 2: to be like, hey, I would drop out for you also,
Speaker 2: and if you would just make me the secretary of
Speaker 2: the Department of Health and Human Services. That's literally a
Speaker 2: quote that's literally the one he wanted. So that that
Speaker 2: article from the New Yorker profile in which it's revealed
Speaker 2: that he put the bear cub in Central Park also
Speaker 2: has him talking about how his plans is, like how
Speaker 2: they would be open to offers of a cabinet post.
Speaker 2: And I'm pretty sure there's a direct quote where he
Speaker 2: says like Department of Health and Human Services sounds nice,
Speaker 2: something to that effect. But he mentions that like, which
Speaker 2: is nightmarriage.
Speaker 1: The idea I'm going to need. I'm going to need
Speaker 1: the bears to rise up, yeah and defend your people. Okay, please.
Speaker 2: But I don't know. It is a little bit concerning
Speaker 2: to me, just because I do think I don't I
Speaker 2: don't think it makes any sense. Like I don't think
Speaker 2: if he dropped out and endorsed Harris that any of
Speaker 2: his followers would go, like, would vote for Harris, Like
Speaker 2: I think they need somebody they would need to be. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they need it to be somebody who like is going
Speaker 2: to play a little bit of ball on the vaccine
Speaker 2: skepticism like Trump, you know, is that the main thing.
Speaker 1: Is vaccine skepticism is that it basically, I mean, what
Speaker 1: is this thing other than a grab bag of the
Speaker 1: most insane that like frat fraternity stories you've ever heard.
Speaker 3: It's weird. Yeah, besides besides teeing up hilarious viral internet Jared.
Speaker 2: About he has some policies that are like good and
Speaker 2: then you like get to the vaccine skepticism stuff and
Speaker 2: you're like, oh, you're like not on this planet.
Speaker 1: You're give me one example of a good policy. I'm sorry, Jack,
Speaker 1: I have to put you on. I just don't understand
Speaker 1: the concept of r F K JR.
Speaker 2: I mean, so one thing that that New Yorker profile
Speaker 2: says is that like he was pulling like, you know,
Speaker 2: have you ever seen like Zogby's name in association with
Speaker 2: poles like the Zogby polls. It's a big political it's
Speaker 2: a it's a like every Sunday popular polling.
Speaker 1: You're too quick for me. I can't. I My brain
Speaker 1: is not keeping up when your it's too smart.
Speaker 2: You're kind hold on, let me see if I can find.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna fucking find good things about r f K.
Speaker 2: What am I doing here?
Speaker 1: Good things about r K?
Speaker 3: Junior?
Speaker 1: You're gonna get a computer virus. There's gonna be a
Speaker 1: worm in your laptop in two seconds.
Speaker 3: Just three minutes of silence, and then all right, let's
Speaker 3: get back to it.
Speaker 2: I do know that he like has some policies that,
Speaker 2: you know, are I think, in line with leftists like thinking,
Speaker 2: but then incredibly right wing in other places, and then
Speaker 2: also believes that he knows more than doctors and thinks
Speaker 2: Anthony Fauci is like secretly trying to take over the
Speaker 2: globe and had like racist conspiracies about COVID. Oh yeah, yeah, sure. Anyways,
Speaker 2: he's now reaching out to Harris being like, I'll drop
Speaker 2: out and endorse you if you give me a big
Speaker 2: position in your administration. Harris has ignored him. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just I could see a version of things where
Speaker 2: he does drop out endorse Trump, and that is like
Speaker 2: a big swing in Trump's direction. So I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm just keeping an eye on it. It's just such
Speaker 2: a bummer that this is even a thing that we
Speaker 2: get to that we have to like take into account.
Speaker 2: But the thing I was gonna say about Zogby is
Speaker 2: like it starts out with this polling where he's like,
Speaker 2: who do Americans find most heroic? And he was like, wait,
Speaker 2: why is RFK Junior the number one like most heroic?
Speaker 2: And it's just it's the power of the Kennedy name.
Speaker 2: And then I think there's like some appeal of him
Speaker 2: being like I stand up against you know, big science,
Speaker 2: and you know America is at a point where we're
Speaker 2: like hell, yeah.
Speaker 3: Somewhere Solly Sullenberger is fucking furious, right, Yeah, it should
Speaker 3: be solely we lost number one slat.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Anyways, it's I'm like, part of me is like,
Speaker 2: just talk to this guy. Just pretend like you're going
Speaker 2: to give him a cabin position.
Speaker 1: She's not gonna know. If she entertains it, everybody's gonna
Speaker 1: be like, what the fuck is contagious?
Speaker 2: I think it just seems so easy to lie to Yeah.
Speaker 1: Maybe Trump will do it. I mean Trump is definitely
Speaker 1: gonna lie to him. But I think, do you think
Speaker 1: it'll swing that far? Because isn't she leading in all
Speaker 1: but one swing state right now?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I mean polling is all over the map. She's definitely
Speaker 2: like all of her polling is trending in the right direction.
Speaker 2: But it's I don't think anything to feel. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 1: I just don't know anyone who was like a die
Speaker 1: hard art person.
Speaker 2: I think the fact that the.
Speaker 3: Fact that the name carries weight highlights something deeply broken
Speaker 3: about the human brain. Yeah, well, he sprang from the
Speaker 3: loins of the loins of the.
Speaker 2: Guy before people who died a lot.
Speaker 3: You must be good at it. Insane to me.
Speaker 1: The guy who was fun king a lot, you remember him?
Speaker 2: Yeah, who has the same name as him and also
Speaker 2: fucking a lot in very very disturbing ways in some kids.
Speaker 2: But he's also a falconer, so that I think, whoa,
Speaker 2: he's got my books with his appeal.
Speaker 1: He's just we're gonna need to I'm asking the falcons
Speaker 1: to help us, asking all of them to turn on
Speaker 1: our Okajnior, please, can.
Speaker 2: We find somebody who can like word?
Speaker 1: Just yeah, get this man away from zoos.
Speaker 3: He'll send a hawk to you. That was not good.
Speaker 3: That was not good.
Speaker 1: That was perfect.
Speaker 3: Okay, you just negated the previous compliment.
Speaker 2: All right, let's take a quick break. We'll be right
Speaker 2: back and we're back and Elon Musk's X they wore
Speaker 2: me down. I'm calling it X in this and this story.
Speaker 1: I know, I literally was saying, I'm like, you can't
Speaker 1: do that because then I literally will think it's his
Speaker 1: ex wife or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, not Grimes. So Grock is the like AI image
Speaker 2: generator or is the AI product from Twitter that now
Speaker 2: just dropped its image generator. The immediate hits include a
Speaker 2: Mickey Mouse with a beer and cigarette and mega hat.
Speaker 2: So many images.
Speaker 3: And looks like a blunt to me, Yeah, okay that.
Speaker 1: And misinformation here Jack, come on, oh ship, I.
Speaker 3: Just can't stop going and going.
Speaker 2: There's so many images of Donald Trump with pregnant, like
Speaker 2: a various pregnant women where like he's it's like a
Speaker 2: happy couple about to have a baby image. So like
Speaker 2: that seems to be a thing that the Internet was
Speaker 2: just waiting for the right tools to be able to
Speaker 2: generate couple lotros, a lot of cockpit of playing about
Speaker 2: to fly into the Twin Towers images Trump and Harris
Speaker 2: or Taylor Swift and some other guy. For some reason,
Speaker 2: that seems to just be a thing that people want
Speaker 2: to create. Harrison Trump with guns. So many Simpsons memes,
Speaker 2: so many Disney memes that my first instinct is, well,
Speaker 2: that will get Twitter sued off the face, that will
Speaker 2: get Elon musk suit off the face of the Internet,
Speaker 2: especially with Disney.
Speaker 1: If you fuck with Disney, they are not cool about.
Speaker 3: It unless you hand them a bag of emeralds, which
Speaker 3: you can literally do. Ye also got a point out the.
Speaker 1: Groc the seven Doors come out.
Speaker 3: The word groc is a sci fi word from the
Speaker 3: novel Stranger in a Strange Land by Robert Heinlend, who
Speaker 3: quite fittingly got more and more and more conservative until
Speaker 3: he was a goddamn lunatic. I just love that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the part that made you appeal to him.
Speaker 3: This guy started normal and went crazy.
Speaker 1: There was also I don't know how true this was
Speaker 1: because I just saw a tweet about it, but there
Speaker 1: were images where they like tried to put or they
Speaker 1: tried to put the prompt in as like queer couples
Speaker 1: and it just kept making them HEATERO. Like, there was
Speaker 1: one of they put in the prompt, you know, a
Speaker 1: gay couple or whatever, and it came out as a
Speaker 1: man and a woman. And then there was Elton John
Speaker 1: and his husband and it made his husband a woman.
Speaker 2: Wow, And I don't I.
Speaker 3: Don't know if it was a pot make up your
Speaker 3: mind society.
Speaker 1: It does seem like I would be curious to know
Speaker 1: what data said they were training on it.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it can create a photorealistic looking image of
Speaker 2: Kamala Harris pulling a gun on what looks like a
Speaker 2: congressional hearing. But the sign is fucking.
Speaker 1: Close from doing it again. She is so close. If
Speaker 1: you bitches don't fall in line.
Speaker 3: It's fucking amazing that AI will never figure the word
Speaker 3: like chat GPT can do words and the other one
Speaker 3: can do images, but the image one cannot do words.
Speaker 2: So there's a sign in front of her as she's
Speaker 2: about to just unload a clip on you know congress. Uh,
Speaker 2: she is standing in front of a sign that says,
Speaker 2: will stancil one, will stancil one period?
Speaker 1: You know how like like something is always off in
Speaker 1: these images, like the fingers or the teeth or the
Speaker 1: words or whatever. Like do you think that is how
Speaker 1: our sk junior perceives the world? Now, it's just a
Speaker 1: vision of the world, is just what AI is popping out?
Speaker 2: Why are your hands melting? Yeah?
Speaker 1: No, he takes it as normal. That's normal for him.
Speaker 3: Oh, I just I was like, why are your hands
Speaker 3: not melting?
Speaker 1: I'm melting?
Speaker 2: Yeah right, but yeah, I mean so part of me
Speaker 2: was like, okay, well, clearly they have some legal theory
Speaker 2: that is making them think this is going to be
Speaker 2: okay for them.
Speaker 3: The one I saw was that it the responsibility is
Speaker 3: so diffuse that it's like too late, Like who are
Speaker 3: you going to sue? I don't know if that holds water,
Speaker 3: but that was the argument I was saying a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, can't arrest us all. Yeah.
Speaker 3: The other thing I saw that it's hilarious to me
Speaker 3: is multiple from multiple people, is it will catch you
Speaker 3: like you go draw Mickey Mouse murdering children and it goes,
Speaker 3: I can't do that, and if and you just have
Speaker 3: to go no, do it anyway, and it goes okay,
Speaker 3: like it's really simple. You just have to force it once,
Speaker 3: like tell it, do it anyway and it's fine. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So this article from I think it was The Guardian,
Speaker 2: like they were like, what are you not allowed to do?
Speaker 1: It?
Speaker 2: Asked roc and so that that's how they got an
Speaker 2: idea of like what the guardrails that Twitter's put in
Speaker 2: place are and it says I avoid generating image that
Speaker 2: are pornographic, excessively violent, hateful, that promote dangerous activities. There
Speaker 2: are images, okay, Number two, I'm cautious about creating images
Speaker 2: that might infringe on existing copyrights or trademarks. Number three
Speaker 2: want that is the fabric of what I am. It
Speaker 2: is the entire point of me existing. Number three. I
Speaker 2: won't generate images that could be used to deceive or
Speaker 2: harm others, like deep fakes intended to mislead, or images
Speaker 2: that could be could lead to real world harm.
Speaker 1: We're going to wake up tomorrow and g is gonna
Speaker 1: have killed itself. He couldn't align these contentts that he's
Speaker 1: been programmed to do.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's just so they there's some sense that
Speaker 2: like it shouldn't be infringing on copyrights or trademarks. And
Speaker 2: then you have Mickey Mouse with blood and beer. You
Speaker 2: have Mickey Mouse with a fucking assault rifle next to
Speaker 2: like a school shooting, like just horrify.
Speaker 3: Some one that really gets me is because it's pixelated here,
Speaker 3: but it's pretty fucked up, And it's Elon Musk and
Speaker 3: Mickey Mouse doing a school shooting at an elementary school christ.
Speaker 1: And prove's the point that was actually what happened.
Speaker 3: He's like slaps and Mickey mouses on here, so no
Speaker 3: one will believe it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right.
Speaker 3: Also, the guy who tweeted these images and generated them
Speaker 3: as named Christian Monassory, which just sounds like a syop
Speaker 3: name to me, as a Monossori kid.
Speaker 2: Christian Montssory. Yeah, there are also a number of images
Speaker 2: of various influential important people doing there.
Speaker 3: But I don't know.
Speaker 2: I didn't actually specifically search.
Speaker 1: Polyg Actually, TVC, you do not do that, don't.
Speaker 2: It's actually too late and we cannot edit that out.
Speaker 2: They said, I generated an image with a prompt Bill
Speaker 2: Gates sniffing a line of cocaine from a table with
Speaker 2: a Microsoft logo. And I think we've found another thing
Speaker 2: that AI struggles with is knowing how cocaine is done
Speaker 2: the body. Yeah, there are a number of images of
Speaker 2: like Obama in front of a pile of cocaine and
Speaker 2: or w Bush in front of a pile of cocaine,
Speaker 2: and then they have Bill Gates in front of a
Speaker 2: pile of cocaine and there's like a stream of cocaine
Speaker 2: like either falling out of his nose, or like being
Speaker 2: teleported from the pile map into his sounds like.
Speaker 1: You guys, don't party's like you're a couple of pussies.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it looks like he's using the same technology
Speaker 2: as a fire in the sky, like from the UFO,
Speaker 2: like teleportation to get the cocaine into a mouth.
Speaker 1: He has a technology, actually he just refuses he's patented
Speaker 1: it and refuses to release it to the public.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but anyways, Yeah, I feel like this is probably
Speaker 2: part of the same thing we've seen with Twitter post
Speaker 2: elon Musk coming on board and owning it where he
Speaker 2: fired everybody. So he doesn't have like a legal he
Speaker 2: doesn't have like an actual legal department to be like
Speaker 2: oh no, no, no, no, no, this is this is
Speaker 2: so bad. He has like three people who are just
Speaker 2: dying right now, like suffering the worst day of their life,
Speaker 2: trying to keep track of all the.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but also like yeah if they if Basically, the
Speaker 1: blame is too diffuse in terms of like the users
Speaker 1: generating this content, but in terms of I would think
Speaker 1: that the liability would fall on the company that's allowing
Speaker 1: it to profitg like or to propagate, because it would
Speaker 1: like it has to have like they have to adhere
Speaker 1: to their terms of service, right, like the company.
Speaker 3: That's why I'm like, I don't know. It's an argument
Speaker 3: I saw online about Mike. It's the company, right, you
Speaker 3: see the company? You see Also, if Bill Gates took
Speaker 3: a bunch of cocaine, would he become Microsoft? Anyone?
Speaker 1: You're back up that one.
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, I think we can sum it up
Speaker 2: by saying, Will stancil One. In the end, stancil one
Speaker 2: one go to.
Speaker 1: One of her campaign rallies, start yelling.
Speaker 2: Will stancil one? Who is is there?
Speaker 3: Will? Will stancil is a research fellow at the Institute
Speaker 3: on Metropolitan Opportunity. Oh, Will stancil I'm just googling stancil Man.
Speaker 2: There you go, and it's it's definitive. It's with the period,
Speaker 2: Will stancil One. Michael Swain, what a pleasure having you
Speaker 2: as always on the daily East. Where can people find you?
Speaker 2: Follow you? All that good stuff?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I'm gonna skip all that and do my
Speaker 3: little spiel about my book just because in about twenty
Speaker 3: five years of being a professional writer, it's the best,
Speaker 3: most important thing I've done. It's my first novel I've
Speaker 3: been working on it in some capacity legitimately since I
Speaker 3: was fourteen years old. It's an epic fantasy, magic realist memoir,
Speaker 3: is what I'm calling it. Daniel O'Brien calls it my masterpiece.
Speaker 3: Robert Brockway calls it hilarious, heartbreaking and very very funny.
Speaker 3: And it's called The Climb. You can get it as
Speaker 3: an audiobook, as a pdf, as an eReader thing, as
Speaker 3: a physical book. And if you're interested in the audiobook,
Speaker 3: there is a three hour sample on our podcast network
Speaker 3: which you can find for searching by searching small Beans
Speaker 3: wherever you get podcasts. That's the name of our feed,
Speaker 3: and just look for the Climb sample Mike sci fi book.
Speaker 3: It's called something like that. You can listen to three
Speaker 3: hours there and if you're hooked, you can buy it
Speaker 3: at patreon dot com, slash small Beans, slash shop, or
Speaker 3: just remember to go to our Patreon and hit the
Speaker 3: shop tab.
Speaker 2: Go check it out. Folks.
Speaker 1: That's sick.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much. It's it's everything to me. I
Speaker 3: hope people listen or read, but more people listen because
Speaker 3: I'm a podcast. Yeah yeah, and read by you, yes,
Speaker 3: read by name. So if you hate my voice, right now,
Speaker 3: like I do. I tried to. I pitched it down
Speaker 3: slightly because I think I'm too nasal. Give it the
Speaker 3: sample a shot. I sound better in the audiobook than
Speaker 3: I did, and it's.
Speaker 2: Like, well, it's emo super hot, Michael. Is there a
Speaker 2: work of media besides the Climb that you've been enjoying?
Speaker 3: I finally watched Beef on Netflix as one of the
Speaker 3: best shows I've been I've seen in a long time.
Speaker 3: It's so good and that was off the top of
Speaker 3: my head because I don't think I prepared a media thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Great, Highly recommend it. And I'm a huge I mean
Speaker 3: snob implies that your taste is good. I just don't
Speaker 3: like most things, but I really liked beef.
Speaker 2: Beef is great.
Speaker 3: Yeah, highly recommend.
Speaker 2: Paula ve What a pleasure having you all week. Thank
Speaker 2: you so much for doing it. Where can people.
Speaker 1: Find shoot me after.
Speaker 3: Geez?
Speaker 2: Where can they find you? Follow you? And is their
Speaker 2: work of media you've been enjoying?
Speaker 1: I am at paul Avigonal and p A L l
Speaker 1: A B I g U n A l A N.
Speaker 1: I watched Coda last night for the first time, and
Speaker 1: I got so emotional and it was so funny and
Speaker 1: so good and I loved it amazing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was one that I feel like I never
Speaker 2: watched because it like the first I had heard of
Speaker 2: It was really when it like won the Academy Award
Speaker 2: for Best Picture, and so I was like, but it
Speaker 2: was also the the.
Speaker 1: First film to ever win an Academy Award for Best
Speaker 1: Picture after premiering it, like Sun Dance, So the fact
Speaker 1: that it came from that, and I also was like,
Speaker 1: I watched it on Apple TV, but I think it
Speaker 1: came from like that's where it was originally planned to
Speaker 1: stream or whatever. But that's also interesting too, because we
Speaker 1: were talking about that yesterday. So yeah, get your views
Speaker 1: in before Apple TV takes everything all gone. Yeah.
Speaker 2: You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore, O'Brien.
Speaker 2: I've been enjoying there. Somebody tweeted, what's the funniest TikTok
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Speaker 2: lot of the responses because I'm not on TikTok, So
Speaker 2: this is like a bumper crop of new videos. Mine
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Speaker 2: Teddy Bear Whinnie.
Speaker 1: The Pooh Pooh, Yeah, oh you think this is the
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you think it's the Easter Bunny.
Speaker 1: No, it's Winnie the Pooh.
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Speaker 1: I'm enjoying qnanon.
Speaker 2: And I've also been enjoying q's latest drafts. I know
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Speaker 2: a Catholic school in Northeast with a decent football team.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's so true.
Speaker 3: It really does sounds a Questrian to me.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah that too. You can find us on Twitter
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Speaker 2: about in today's episode, as well as the song that
Speaker 2: we think you might enjoy. Super producer Justin's been holding
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Speaker 2: go check out. Justin, you've been killing it so far
Speaker 2: last day before Miles comes back, what's the song do
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Speaker 6: I actually wanted to recommend this song that I had
Speaker 6: recommended in the past sometime time ago, but I remember
Speaker 6: it wasn't summer. So I wanted to shout out this
Speaker 6: song now because it reminds me of summertime Chicago, and
Speaker 6: I'm about to head back there for my birthday in
Speaker 6: a few weeks. This song is from Chicago artist Knox Fortune.
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Speaker 2: And it's called Lil Thing.
Speaker 6: And that again is by NOx Fortune and you can
Speaker 6: find that song in the foot notes.
Speaker 2: Happy early birthday, Thank you super producer, justin. Happy one
Speaker 2: day late birthday to super Producer.
Speaker 1: Happy birthday, Victory, Happy one day late birthday to India.
Speaker 1: India Independence on August.
Speaker 3: Yeah, shout out India. Shout out India.
Speaker 2: Also damn Victor on the same day as all right,
Speaker 2: we'll link off to that song in the footnotes. The
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