Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.
Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford, joined by my trusted colleague West Hodkowitz,
Speaker 1: were coming to you here from our studios at lambeau
Speaker 1: Field West. Earlier today, we heard from head coach Matt
Speaker 1: Lafleur his season ending press conference, rather traditional for head
Speaker 1: coaches in the middle of the week after the season ends,
Speaker 1: that they kind of addressed the media one final time
Speaker 1: to wrap things up, and I'm interested in your thoughts
Speaker 1: as well. My initial two takeaways from this are one
Speaker 1: that it's really really hard to get over an ending
Speaker 1: like the Packers had, because even a few days later,
Speaker 1: you could still hear some of the regret and bitterness
Speaker 1: and disappointment and everything in Matt Lafleur's voice. So we'll
Speaker 1: talk about that a little bit. But also, he's extremely
Speaker 1: upbeat about the future. I think he used the word
Speaker 1: excited at least five or six times throughout the course
Speaker 1: of the half hour press conference. He likes what he's
Speaker 1: built so far, but he's a coach that knows the
Speaker 1: process is nowhere near complete. This is still an ongoing evolution,
Speaker 1: and the reason why it's so difficult one obviously just
Speaker 1: the result, but two, it's because of as he pointed out,
Speaker 1: how special that locker room was, how close that locker
Speaker 1: room was, one of the closest that he's ever coached
Speaker 1: at any level of football, and that, as Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: talked about after the game, that's what made you feel
Speaker 1: like this could be a real special season, because you
Speaker 1: don't always get that. You'll have teams that win Super
Speaker 1: Bowls that aren't as tight as that locker room was,
Speaker 1: and you'll have teams I think, as Mercedes Lewis pointed
Speaker 1: out on Monday too, he played on plenty of teams
Speaker 1: that weren't quote unquote winning playoff teams, but had a
Speaker 1: good chemistry. It can be a lick, sir, I feel
Speaker 1: to to help a team get to that next level,
Speaker 1: and when it all ends, it is it's just it's
Speaker 1: such a sudden train stop. You can't prepare for you
Speaker 1: because you don't think about it. You think about the game,
Speaker 1: in winning, in what that would mean, and just continuing
Speaker 1: upon that run. So there is a lot to break
Speaker 1: down and digest this week, But as you mentioned in
Speaker 1: the second point of your point, they also feel a
Speaker 1: genuine excitement and enthusiasm about what is to come based
Speaker 1: on this first season. They were ahead of schedule in
Speaker 1: so many ways, whether it was just the implementation of
Speaker 1: this offense, whether it was being able to incorporate the
Speaker 1: new free agent pieces, or even having a guy like
Speaker 1: Elton Jenkins make a you know, year one contribution. All
Speaker 1: of those things kind of add up to being a
Speaker 1: pretty special, you know year that you don't always get
Speaker 1: with the first year head coach. But unfortunately the Green
Speaker 1: Bay Packers fourteen wins will have to do and they
Speaker 1: set their sights now. Yeah, I think one of the
Speaker 1: things that I liked best about his remarks that he
Speaker 1: came he came off very very aware of the fact
Speaker 1: that there are going to be things that are going
Speaker 1: to come up in that you can't prepare for. That
Speaker 1: you're not going to expect that there are going to
Speaker 1: be new challenges, new difficulties. Everything that the Packers worked
Speaker 1: through this year, he knows they were blessed with a
Speaker 1: fair amount of good fortune from a health standpoint, not
Speaker 1: a lot of major injuries to deal with. Um, it's
Speaker 1: not easy to win so many close games in the NFL.
Speaker 1: As we talked about a lot those those usually tend
Speaker 1: to follow more fifty fifty throughout the course of a season.
Speaker 1: Packers are on the winning end of the vast majority
Speaker 1: of close games, So that's going to be something that's
Speaker 1: that's difficult to repeat. He's already what I sensed is
Speaker 1: he's already mentally preparing himself for whatever it is that
Speaker 1: comes down the road that the Packers didn't have to
Speaker 1: deal with in twenty nineteen, but it's going to hit
Speaker 1: them at some point, and I and I think he's
Speaker 1: he's already mentally aware that that those things are going
Speaker 1: to come eventually. Yeah, and and being able to have
Speaker 1: that experience to to lean back on now. I think
Speaker 1: it's just so critical. It didn't even really dawn on me,
Speaker 1: Mike until he brought it up himself, that this will
Speaker 1: be the first time he goes into year two with
Speaker 1: the same offense with the same team since two thousand,
Speaker 1: fifteen sixteen with with Atlanta, you know. And that's a
Speaker 1: part of being a climber. It's a part of getting
Speaker 1: more opportunities. He went to being an offensive coordinator to
Speaker 1: have an offensive play caller, to finally a head coach
Speaker 1: here with the Green Bay Packers, and and everything that
Speaker 1: comes with it understanding Okay, you need to implement your offense.
Speaker 1: You need to be the offensive you know, guru in
Speaker 1: mind that is going to get this team ready for Sunday.
Speaker 1: And it's funny, you said finally though, because it happened
Speaker 1: so quickly. Nineteen boom, there he is as a head coach.
Speaker 1: But yeah, but you know, at thirty four years old,
Speaker 1: this is something that he was thinking about when he
Speaker 1: was a quarterback at say Anna Valley Stage. You know,
Speaker 1: someday being able to run his own scheme and run
Speaker 1: his own team, and being the son of a football
Speaker 1: coach and a mom that was a coach. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just it that is always in you, I believe,
Speaker 1: and this was his first chance to really be able
Speaker 1: to understand, Okay, it's not just a position. It's not
Speaker 1: just the side of the ball. It's being in special
Speaker 1: teams meetings, it's being in defensive meetings, setting the agenda
Speaker 1: for everybody in that building, from the training staff, the
Speaker 1: strengthen conditioning department, and also having conversations with Brian good Kunstan,
Speaker 1: having conversations with Mark Murphy. This is everything that plays
Speaker 1: into being a head coach at the highest level. And
Speaker 1: those experiences like you can't just go into an interview
Speaker 1: being like, Okay, I know exactly what to expect and
Speaker 1: this is how I'm going to approach everything. A lot
Speaker 1: of it is Okay, when you get those curveballs thrown
Speaker 1: at you, how do you adjust your swing to it?
Speaker 1: And I feel like that's what Matt Lafleur. Probably the
Speaker 1: biggest adjustment now that he gets to make now going
Speaker 1: into year two is knowing where he needs to devote
Speaker 1: his time, how to a cayta his resources and is
Speaker 1: He even pointed out leaning on his staff because he's
Speaker 1: not always going to have all the answers. It's an
Speaker 1: exciting thing for him to be a coach that won
Speaker 1: thirteen games, got to a playoff one, a division title,
Speaker 1: was in an NFC Championship game. But now it's about
Speaker 1: that next step and everything that he has to do
Speaker 1: to ensure that they do take that step forward in Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: he had some interesting thoughts both regarding the offense and
Speaker 1: the defense. I want to get to those in a minute.
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Speaker 1: the majority of at least in terms of the evaluation
Speaker 1: part of it, talking about the offense because that's his
Speaker 1: area of expertise. It was his offense that the Packers
Speaker 1: were implementing and transitioning to this year, and I thought
Speaker 1: it was interesting and that he he came right out
Speaker 1: and said the whole up tempo thing, which a lot
Speaker 1: of fans were wondering, like where is it. Why aren't
Speaker 1: the Packers going to a huddle and playing faster and
Speaker 1: all that? He said, Hey, that's that's something we didn't
Speaker 1: get to this year. But it sounds like it's a
Speaker 1: pretty high priority for that he wants to have. Now
Speaker 1: it's not going to be, you know, the track meet
Speaker 1: sixty minutes a game or whatever, but he wants to
Speaker 1: have a segment of the offense that's there for them
Speaker 1: to be able to go up tempo, to play faster
Speaker 1: when it's not just a two minute situation, but as
Speaker 1: a change of pace at other times in the game.
Speaker 1: It sounds like that's something he really wants to work on.
Speaker 1: With Aaron Rodgers here heading into twenties. Yeah, because I
Speaker 1: wouldn't go and say that, you know, Kyle Shanahan, what
Speaker 1: they were doing was really quote unquote up tempo in
Speaker 1: most cases. But it was just how they broke the huddle,
Speaker 1: how they got to line a scrimmage, Guys being in
Speaker 1: the right spots, being disciplined, not having to have any miscommunication, um,
Speaker 1: just honing all that in. Kyle Shanahan's in his third
Speaker 1: year now as a head coach that he's been able to,
Speaker 1: you know, really work those things out. But for Green Bay,
Speaker 1: as the floor talked about it, it's not always just
Speaker 1: one or the other. You don't want to just always
Speaker 1: be up tempo because then you know you're you're you
Speaker 1: might you know, speed yourself out of things. You also
Speaker 1: don't want to be down to two and three seconds
Speaker 1: on a play clock because then that's when the defense
Speaker 1: starts to get dependant's ears back. There's all these things
Speaker 1: that you have to account for in the course of
Speaker 1: a sixty minute game. And you know, he admitted that's
Speaker 1: something that this offseason, when the coaches break things down
Speaker 1: and when the players get back into the building in
Speaker 1: the spring, being able to you know, maybe take that
Speaker 1: next step hasten that process that that is what his
Speaker 1: vision is for where these things go. Aaron Rodgers is exceptional,
Speaker 1: he said it. I mean the way that he was
Speaker 1: open minded about the way that he approached this new
Speaker 1: offense and in his role in it what was being
Speaker 1: asked to him. But for everybody, it's it's a growing process.
Speaker 1: It's the understanding that this was year one and now
Speaker 1: you go into year two. What can you do to
Speaker 1: make sure that the offense is, you know, adaptable to
Speaker 1: every situation in being able to be multifaceted where you
Speaker 1: really needed to. Yeah, and with with how tough things
Speaker 1: ended out in San Francisco in the NFC Championship game,
Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur had some really pointed words actually in terms
Speaker 1: of questioning just the intensity, the urgency, the effort of
Speaker 1: the players. Just felt like he wasn't seeing the same
Speaker 1: team out there in San Francisco that he saw during
Speaker 1: the regular season. But interestingly, he also said he also
Speaker 1: looked at that excuse me as something to be self reflective.
Speaker 1: That He's like, I need to look at myself and
Speaker 1: find out why my team looked like that. In an
Speaker 1: NFC Championship game. Um, so again, I think you know,
Speaker 1: we're we're we're starting to get a feel after this
Speaker 1: first season now, and we were seeing it earlier as
Speaker 1: well when they hit some bumps in the road with
Speaker 1: the game out in Los Angeles and the first trip
Speaker 1: to San Francisco. Matt Lafleur is a really self reflective
Speaker 1: head coach. His first it seems that his first step
Speaker 1: he he evaluates things, but then his first step in
Speaker 1: trying to figure out what needs to change, it's always
Speaker 1: looking at himself first, and then he'll start to branch
Speaker 1: out and figure out other things. And I just I
Speaker 1: think that's a quality that uh, you know, maybe it's
Speaker 1: something he's born with, maybe being son of a coach,
Speaker 1: whatever whatever it is that has created that in him.
Speaker 1: But not every not every coach has that. Not every
Speaker 1: coach always looks at himself first, or at least publicly
Speaker 1: is going to say like, hey, I'm going to look
Speaker 1: at myself first. And I think that's something that that
Speaker 1: Packers fans can As tough as that ending was, I
Speaker 1: think Packers fans can have a lot of confidence in, uh,
Speaker 1: in this head coach in terms of getting to the
Speaker 1: bottom of why this happened and trying to make sure
Speaker 1: it doesn't happen again. I'll be honest with you, I
Speaker 1: don't know if Mark Murphy and Bryan god Kuntz and
Speaker 1: Rust Ball everybody, when they sat down and talked with
Speaker 1: him through the head coaching process of trying to make
Speaker 1: that higher, if they if they were able to really
Speaker 1: get at the core of the apple there. But I
Speaker 1: would argue with you now that we're more than a
Speaker 1: year into this thing, that Matt Lafleur's best quality I
Speaker 1: think as a coach, and what makes him a guy
Speaker 1: that think is going to be successful for many, many
Speaker 1: years in this profession is the fact that he he
Speaker 1: leads by example. He asked of himself before before he
Speaker 1: asked from others. I actually think that's that's not really
Speaker 1: an issue just with the NFL. That's an issue in society.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of weak minded people out there, uh, spineless, Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, they just don't have that backbone of you know, billing,
Speaker 1: willing to accept responsibility. They just want to blame other people.
Speaker 1: And it happens a lot in industry. Boss's supervisors always
Speaker 1: wanted to talk down to those beneath them rather understanding
Speaker 1: who's who's the people that are making these decisions and
Speaker 1: how are people responding to the way of which you're leading.
Speaker 1: That that's critical, And I've said it before on the
Speaker 1: show and I've written it an inbox. It doesn't matter
Speaker 1: how good of an X and o's guy you are,
Speaker 1: or even what you're in a person, communication skills are like,
Speaker 1: if you don't have that foundation, it just isn't gonna
Speaker 1: work because everyone's nobody's gonna respect you. And Matt Lafleur
Speaker 1: was very self aware coming into this season that that's
Speaker 1: where this has to start, because the fact of the
Speaker 1: matter is, Mike, a lot of things went wrong in
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight fifteen. For the Packers to have
Speaker 1: the overhaul that they had this past year, they had
Speaker 1: to get better. They had to get better with their coaches,
Speaker 1: they had to get better with the players, they had
Speaker 1: to get better with the scheme, they had to get
Speaker 1: better with the administration. Everybody needed to improve and the
Speaker 1: fact of the matter is they won fourteen games, they
Speaker 1: made a playoff Berth and you listen to guys like
Speaker 1: Mercedes Lewis, Brian Bulagau, Trumon Williams, Mason Crosby, leaders in
Speaker 1: that locker room that have seen so many different versions
Speaker 1: of this Packers team, all appreciative of the tech that
Speaker 1: he took with this roster. That's something that you hang
Speaker 1: your hat on now as you move forward as a
Speaker 1: head coach. Yeah, and when you talk about the potential
Speaker 1: obstacles that say the Packers didn't have to deal with
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen, that may come up in you know,
Speaker 1: the most significant injuries the Packers had, I would say,
Speaker 1: we're you know, Lane Taylor going down with the iceeps injury,
Speaker 1: but Elton Jenkins was ready as a rookie second on
Speaker 1: draft picked to step in and take over and that
Speaker 1: was as as seamless as you could as you could
Speaker 1: ask for. And then Davante Adams missing four games with
Speaker 1: the turf toe injury, and then you know, working his
Speaker 1: way back even when he was back on the field,
Speaker 1: he wasn't totally himself yet for a handful of games there. Um,
Speaker 1: But you know there almost inevitably after a year like
Speaker 1: this one, they're going to be some more injuries that
Speaker 1: Packers are going to have to deal with. And and
Speaker 1: that's where the roster construction and how much experience do
Speaker 1: you have in the backups that are going to step in.
Speaker 1: These are all of the conversations that Matt Lafleur and
Speaker 1: Brian gudakun stand the personnel staff are going to have
Speaker 1: in the off season. Another one I'll look at is,
Speaker 1: you know this two thousand nineteen Packers Matt Lafleur as
Speaker 1: a head coach. They haven't had a losing streak. You know. Now,
Speaker 1: that's that says something about again the self reflection and
Speaker 1: the leadership and all these other things that we've been
Speaker 1: talking about, because every time the Packers lost a game,
Speaker 1: they got it turned back around and and you know,
Speaker 1: righted the ship very quickly. But this is the NFL.
Speaker 1: You're probably going to lose a couple of games in
Speaker 1: a row. Here. That's another thing that maybe in is
Speaker 1: something that you know you won't be able to turn
Speaker 1: it around quite so fast. And if you lose a
Speaker 1: couple of games in a row, then how does the
Speaker 1: locker room react? Then what kind of leadership is needed
Speaker 1: to to get things going? These are the kinds of
Speaker 1: things that that are potentially coming down the pike. But
Speaker 1: as I as I said before, it seems that Matt
Speaker 1: Lafleur is not going to be surprised by anything. He's
Speaker 1: he's aware that he didn't face everything in year one
Speaker 1: and uh and I think just that awareness is going
Speaker 1: to serve him well. Heading into YouTube, there's a lot
Speaker 1: to unpack there. Um, what I'll start with is it's
Speaker 1: a chicken or the egg, right in terms of the
Speaker 1: two game not having a losing absolutely, it is interesting
Speaker 1: how the locker room responded to every single one of
Speaker 1: those situations and how they played the following week. Right.
Speaker 1: What happens when the adversity hits the second time, that's
Speaker 1: something every team has to figure out. Will be interesting
Speaker 1: to see if that should happen next year, how the
Speaker 1: Packers will handle that. But the other the two other
Speaker 1: things I want to talk about very briefly here. One,
Speaker 1: Packers certainly just got to figure out what the heck
Speaker 1: happened in California this year, because it's just that that
Speaker 1: that's where it went awry. That was the the three
Speaker 1: long the three longest road trips, the three longest plane
Speaker 1: fights are are are where for whatever reason, things just
Speaker 1: didn't go Yeah, So that that's just that's something I
Speaker 1: think that they're going to be able to put a
Speaker 1: finger on when they reassess here over the next six
Speaker 1: seven weeks, and I'm guessing it'll be something and may
Speaker 1: even be asked when we get back to the combine.
Speaker 1: The other thing is very small, and I'm sure it's
Speaker 1: not gonna be something the floor is gonna want to
Speaker 1: go into, because I know Mike McCarthy certainly didn't. But
Speaker 1: I wonder if the Packers have really this is speculation
Speaker 1: on my standpoint. I wonder if the Packers really have
Speaker 1: gotten their finger on the pulse of the GPS system
Speaker 1: and understanding workload management. Uh, you know, knowing when to
Speaker 1: push guys and when not to push guys because you're right,
Speaker 1: turf toe injuries are gonna happen. Um, you know, we
Speaker 1: we saw more injuries seasonating injuries happened in practice than
Speaker 1: we did in the the football field this year. Uh.
Speaker 1: The thing that with happened with Raven Green and the ankle,
Speaker 1: you can't really prepare for that. But the soft tissue
Speaker 1: injuries that would be sidelining players for weeks. Uh sometimes
Speaker 1: with Casey Hayward some of these guys, it would wipe
Speaker 1: them out a whole season. Those didn't haunt the Packers
Speaker 1: this year, and a lot of that is rest and
Speaker 1: recovery and preparation. But what I want to say to
Speaker 1: along those lines, because fans are always asking, they've been
Speaker 1: asking for years, like what is the deal with the injuries?
Speaker 1: And you know this and that and why why do
Speaker 1: the Packers always get struck with all these injuries? It
Speaker 1: seems like the list is longer for Green Bay than
Speaker 1: other teams. I'll say this too. Players have to take
Speaker 1: care of their own bodies. There has to be there
Speaker 1: has to be some commitment from within from themselves to
Speaker 1: do what it takes because they can only be given
Speaker 1: so many plans and so many objectives and and this
Speaker 1: and that, and you know, I don't know. I just
Speaker 1: wonder a new head coach coming in, a new coaching
Speaker 1: staff coming in, you get a greater commitment from the
Speaker 1: players to do things on their own when they have
Speaker 1: this whole new group of people to impress in order
Speaker 1: to get the playing time in order to get in
Speaker 1: their careers where they want to go. I'm just saying
Speaker 1: I think that's a part of this too. You know,
Speaker 1: he's a great example that as Jire Alexander too. Because
Speaker 1: I was talking with Jyre about that this year because
Speaker 1: of Truman Williams. Truman Williams is the gold standard for
Speaker 1: preserving your body. I mean, whether or not you're a
Speaker 1: pro athlete. I think just is a thirty six, thirty
Speaker 1: seven year old human being. You just got to respect
Speaker 1: the way that that he approaches a thing question. And
Speaker 1: Jyre mentioned to me this year when one of our conversations,
Speaker 1: I mean how much he said, like, okay, his rookie year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we got treumon there. That's cool. It's funny. He's like,
Speaker 1: I'm not really sure how much I really took from
Speaker 1: him in terms of him independently going out trying to
Speaker 1: use him as a resource, but seeing him this year
Speaker 1: in his preparation, I mean, Jire started doing yoga this year,
Speaker 1: things that he wasn't doing at least regularly in the
Speaker 1: hask and starts all sixteen games, plays at a high
Speaker 1: level all season long. It's those type of investments that
Speaker 1: players have to make. And it's not when you're thirty six,
Speaker 1: it's when you're twenty two or twenty three too. Uh,
Speaker 1: understanding that you get you tear your hamstring, you have
Speaker 1: a soft tissue injury that doesn't just heal like where
Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, you never have to deal with it again.
Speaker 1: That muscle is less now because you tore it the
Speaker 1: first time. It's only going to recover to a certain extent.
Speaker 1: The more you preserve yourself, the better it's gonna be
Speaker 1: you for the long run. Injuries happen, though, they will happen.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's certain things that Nick Perry dealt with
Speaker 1: in Green Bay. He just was snake bitten by it.
Speaker 1: He just he there's nothing he could have prepared for
Speaker 1: to break his thumb or like, you know, to broken
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, that's that's the stuff. I mean
Speaker 1: when you're talking about when you're talking about things like
Speaker 1: broken bones, concussions, those types of injuries, those fall in
Speaker 1: a completely different category than you know, the pulled hamstring,
Speaker 1: the groin muscle, the calf muscle, I mean, all all
Speaker 1: of those kinds of things. Those are completely different categories.
Speaker 1: And and yeah, the Packers were a healthy team in
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, and for the most part they took advantage
Speaker 1: of it. Unfortunately, you know, they wanted to win at
Speaker 1: least one more game. Yeah, So getting back to my
Speaker 1: original point and all this much like We're going to
Speaker 1: see how the Packers respond to adversity next year with
Speaker 1: this locker room scene, if they can keep this up,
Speaker 1: and seeing if they can keep that trend because the
Speaker 1: outside looking in and nobody ever wants to talk about
Speaker 1: because one you don't want to give away any secrets
Speaker 1: and two you don't want to jinx yourself. But there
Speaker 1: the Packers were exceedingly healthy this year and it helped
Speaker 1: in terms of how this team was built and how
Speaker 1: they were able to build throughout the course of the season. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: we will not most likely here from Matt Lafleur until
Speaker 1: the NFL scouting combine, um, so may not have too
Speaker 1: much to to unpack between now and then, but we
Speaker 1: shall see. And we are going to hear from general
Speaker 1: manager Brian Gouda Kunst on Friday this week, So on
Speaker 1: Friday show we will try to analyze and dissect what
Speaker 1: he has to say. Yeah, it's gonna be great. I'm
Speaker 1: I think it's just gonna be really fun because you know,
Speaker 1: Brian has been accessible, but he doesn't have like weekly
Speaker 1: and daily press conferences like Matt does. So just seeing
Speaker 1: what his impressions were of this roster and where they
Speaker 1: got to and what he learned from this season. One
Speaker 1: thing is just I've loved since the day he walked
Speaker 1: into the door, at least in terms of the new
Speaker 1: GM role. Is that he he stated that was January seven,
Speaker 1: two thousand and eighteen or whatever it was, he stated
Speaker 1: they were going to leave no stone on turn with
Speaker 1: free agency. They're going to be in every conversation they did.
Speaker 1: That that's would enabled them to get not one but
Speaker 1: two Smiths last year. Uh. You look at them being
Speaker 1: able to claim Jared Valdere and Tyler Irvin and finding
Speaker 1: some of the answers they did during the season, which
Speaker 1: is the most difficult time to be able to put
Speaker 1: a band aid on things. It was a fantastic year
Speaker 1: for Brian Goodkins in a great opportunity now for him
Speaker 1: going into year two with expediting this whole process to
Speaker 1: continue to try to fill some holes there to get
Speaker 1: that team back to a Super Bowl. Yeah. I'll look
Speaker 1: forward to that conversation on Friday, but for now, we're
Speaker 1: going to call it a wrap on this edition of
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