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Now, before we get to any of those 16 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 1: fantastic stories and our awesome panel for the day, I 17 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: gotta bring this up. 18 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 2: This is probably not a. 19 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: Leading a news show type of stories, but you know what, 20 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: I think it's important just to see the cultural shift. 21 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: The Vikings, the football team from Minnesota. The Minnesota Vikings 22 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:07,759 Speaker 1: have new cheerleaders. Unfortunately, it's not that I mean, they 23 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 1: still have some of those. But there's two dudes now 24 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 1: on the Minnesota cheer and dance team because you know what, 25 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:18,839 Speaker 1: NFL fans are just clamoring for show me dudes shaking 26 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 1: their booties and provocative manners in between the timeouts and 27 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: the TV commercial breaks. That's what all of the American 28 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: football fans want. Of course, I kid, that's here sarcasm. 29 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: I don't know who wants this or why the Minnesota 30 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: Vikings thought that this would. 31 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 2: Be a good idea. 32 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: There's two dudes on the Minnesota Vikings cheerleading teams. But 33 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: I think I'm burying the lead here. I think the 34 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: big thing that we all need to discuss here is 35 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: the fact that neither one of those two dudes is 36 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: Tim Walls, a man who I believe has been training 37 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: to be a cheerleader his entire life. We all remember 38 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: his waves, his unimaginably animated arms, every time he was 39 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: in front of a TV camera or an audience. I 40 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: think we need to seek justice for Timmy here. Minnesota Vikings. 41 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: Do what is right, make little Timmy's dreams come true, 42 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: and make Tim Wallas the third male member, and I 43 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: use the term male loosely of the Minnesota Vikings cheer 44 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: and dance team here in the comments on that and 45 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: share their thoughts about judging the moment is celebrity chef 46 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,839 Speaker 1: Andrew Gruel and Turning Point contributor in Frontlines reporter Savanna Hernandez. Guys, 47 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining us. Really appreciate you taking 48 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: the time. 49 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 2: Thanks for having us, Joe, Bob, Andrew. 50 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,519 Speaker 1: I know you were foaming at the mouth there because 51 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: you just love to see the NFL catering to an 52 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: audience that doesn't exist. 53 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 2: I don't know, am I wrong? 54 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 3: Like? 55 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: Is that is there an audience out there that wants one? 56 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: It's hard to really make the case for cheerleaders as 57 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: a whole, Like you're there to watch a football game, 58 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: but if you're gonna have them, I don't know, is 59 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: there an audience there for this? 60 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 3: I think the audience is the cheerleading audience. So they 61 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 3: looked at this as kind of a win win because, 62 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 3: on the one hand, attention to the cheerleaders, so they 63 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 3: figure that this would go and fly under the radar. 64 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 3: But the people who do pay attention are the cheerleaders themselves, 65 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 3: who probably are okay with this in general. I didn't 66 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 3: even realize there was like a huge cheerleader agency within 67 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 3: the NFL. I think conservatives have to be careful here though, 68 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 3: because you can't keep canceling. That's something the left does right, Like, 69 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 3: for example, me my restaurants, they'll be like, we're boycotting 70 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,839 Speaker 3: your restaurant. I'm like, you guys boycotted me twenty times 71 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 3: over the last year, like you can only do it once. 72 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 3: And the right has boycotted the NFL on multiple occasions. 73 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 3: So I think at this point when they're like, we're 74 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 3: boycotting NFL, it's like, well, come on, guys, we're boycotting 75 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 3: the NFL for the past five years. So let's just like, 76 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 3: let line dogs lie. Let's ignore the entire thing. Generally speaking, 77 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 3: male cheerleaders. I actually thought there were male cheerleaders, but 78 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 3: they were like typically the burly strong men that act 79 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 3: as the sockle underneath a lot of the moves when 80 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 3: they were tossing the women up and down. 81 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 4: Once again, I'm a novice in the world of cheerleader language. 82 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 3: However, I once again doesn't really you know, kind of 83 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 3: move my dial if you will, when it comes to 84 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 3: cultural or hot topic conversations. 85 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: Interesting fund bag, I did not know that about you, 86 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: that you weren't a cheerleading officionado. I just I assumed 87 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,559 Speaker 1: that that was the case. But good to know, sav 88 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: I think that's actually a pretty good point. You know, 89 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 1: you can't keep canceling everybody like, oh, people are mad. 90 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: I do, though, think if I were to push back 91 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 1: a little bit, like I think you should make fun 92 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: of it, he should bock it and make as many 93 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 1: jokes as you can about it. But really what I'm 94 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: seeking is justice for Governor Tim Walls. The man wants 95 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 1: to be a cheerleader, at least, in my opinion, as 96 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: bad as anybody wants anything. Savannah, do you think that 97 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 1: Governor Tim Walls will overcome being left off the roster 98 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 1: of the Minnesota Vikings cheerleading squad. 99 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 5: Well, you know, he's busy trying to lead Minnesota. Joe 100 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 5: Baba right doing such a great job. I mean, we 101 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 5: truly missed out having him as our vice president. He 102 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 5: would have been so well let me tell you, okay, 103 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 5: every day would have been jazz hands Now. Something that 104 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 5: I do want to know because as an on the 105 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 5: Grand Journalists, I actually just got back from Minnesota, and 106 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 5: what I will say, jobob because every single time I 107 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 5: see these stories, I'm like, who asked for this? Yeah, 108 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 5: you got to take the demographic of Minnesota into consideration. 109 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 5: Their entire state is filled with liberals, so ten out 110 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 5: of ten they see this and they love it. So 111 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 5: what I want Americans to understand is the people of 112 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 5: Minnesota love this type of stuff, and this is absolutely 113 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 5: playing to their gigantic gay liberal audience. And I don't 114 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 5: mean that in a disparaging way. Everybody there is extremely 115 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,359 Speaker 5: gay and liberal. Every single church has a gay flag 116 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 5: on it. And I think I found the maybe three 117 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 5: or four conservatives that live in the entire state, they 118 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 5: wouldn't even go on camera because they're like, yeah, we're 119 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 5: basically in hiding here. Our entire lives are going to 120 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 5: be ruined. People know that we're conservative. So again, the 121 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 5: population of Minnesota very much asking for this type of stuff, 122 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 5: so not surprising to see. 123 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's also a good point. I think that, yeah, 124 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 1: if their demographic wants it, I find. 125 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 2: Go give it to him. 126 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: Again, doesn't mean that I can't make fun of it. 127 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: Speaking of that, which is maybe this is a whole 128 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: segue to get to this. I thought this was a 129 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 1: really really interesting component in this whole kind of free 130 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 1: speech cancelation debate. Andrew, you were talking about cancelation. John Gruden, 131 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: former NFL coach, famous NFL coach, won a Super Bowl 132 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, got a win at the 133 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: Nevada Supreme Court. What happened if we set this story 134 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: up really quickly. In two thousand and one, there's an 135 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: investigation into the Washington Redskins or the Commanders, whatever they 136 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: changed their name to. And in that investigation, some emails 137 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: that John Gruden had sent got leaked. Now, the emails 138 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 1: were said to be racist and homophobic, although they were 139 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: never actually released in their entirety, it's just kind of 140 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 1: hearsay that caused John Gruden to have to retire or 141 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: resign from the team. And therefore he sued the NFL saying, hey, 142 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 1: these didn't need to be leaked, they were selectively leaked. 143 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: All of that is to say the NFL usually handles 144 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: this with arbitration. The Nevada Supreme Court said, Nope, you 145 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: can't do that. You got to do it in an 146 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: open court, and that's how they're going to handle it overall. Andrew, 147 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: what do you think about the leaking of private emails 148 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: that has been done at the government level for political purposes. 149 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: We've just seen the alleged allegations against Adam Schiff all 150 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: the way down to the culture element where it's happening 151 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: in the NFL. How do we a society kind of 152 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: navigate this weird kind of you know, you did say it, 153 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: but it was in a private context, and should that 154 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: be released to the public. How do we go move 155 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: forward with this type of stuff. 156 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 3: I'm not a fan of the leakage at all, but 157 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 3: actually that starts to sound like a pharmaceutical ad. 158 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 4: But when I think that when it. 159 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 3: Comes to this, let's leak the emails selectively leave context out, 160 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 3: et cetera, regardless of who's doing it, I don't think 161 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 3: that it's fair. Once again, I'm not familiar fully with 162 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 3: the NFL aspect of this story, although I understand the 163 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 3: legal mechanics when it comes to them him trying to 164 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 3: make this more public so that they don't actually get 165 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 3: sucked into the politics of arbitration. 166 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 4: I think that is a good thing. Ultimately. 167 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 3: I'm fairly certain that also these emails were written when 168 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 3: he was an ESPN analyst and not a coach, so 169 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 3: it didn't fall within the purview of his employership with 170 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 3: the NFL, right, so that in and of itself, I 171 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 3: think should be an element that's considered as a legal element. 172 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 3: They knew what they were doing, they wanted to get 173 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 3: him fired, and then there's this kind of arrogance and 174 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 3: bravado that comes with, you know, kind of social virtue 175 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 3: where we're gonna leak this and we know that in 176 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 3: the court of public opinion because of the way the 177 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 3: media is pushing it, right, is you're going to just 178 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 3: get attacked and it's going to ruin you forever, which 179 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 3: it has. He's lost everything after this from the article 180 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 3: that I read, and I think that there should be recourse. 181 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 3: I don't think that that's fair. I think that it's 182 00:08:56,679 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 3: very immature and frankly, it's weak. Right, it's a weeny 183 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 3: move to go back to my pharmaceutical joke. 184 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: Not a fan of leakage, Andrew Gruhle right here, Savannah. 185 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: From a journalistic standpoint, right, The Wall Street Journal, the 186 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: New York Times published all of these big, long pieces, 187 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: but again never actually published the specifics of the emails. 188 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: They just said it was homophobic and it was racist, 189 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: just on a journalist specific side. 190 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 2: How like, how do you kind of fix that? 191 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 1: Is that acceptable in the journalistic field to not and 192 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: again maybe it's they're protecting him in some sort of way, 193 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: but just to say something is racist and homophobic, well, okay, 194 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: everything Left says is racist and homophobic. How does that 195 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: square with the journalistic integrity that you try to uphold. 196 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I'm going to remove myself from this 197 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 5: because let's just focus in on the mainstream media and 198 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 5: the modern day. This is exactly how they operate. And 199 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 5: you know what, in their defense, just being a white 200 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 5: man in twenty twenty five is racist and homophobic apparently, 201 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 5: so you know, he he did it to himself by 202 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 5: being born white, unfortunately for him. No, but truly, it's 203 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 5: very upsetting to see that this entire this man's entire 204 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 5: life was ruined, very sad to see, and from the 205 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 5: journalistic perspective or from the perspective of everybody who pushed 206 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 5: out this narrative. I mean, we have seen this playbook 207 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 5: time and time again. It's why you know President Trump 208 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 5: talks to the media the way that he does, because 209 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 5: they truly are the scum of the art. 210 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 2: Joe Bob. 211 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 5: All they do is destroy lives and life horrible. 212 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, hey, speaking of white men, Savannah this 213 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: you know, unfortunately he was born that way and that's 214 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,959 Speaker 1: his own fault. White men can't do anything unless unless, 215 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: of course, you go by a Hispanic version of your name, 216 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: such as Beto O'Rourke. His first name is actually Robert, 217 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: but goes by Beto to ingratiate himself with the Hispanic community. 218 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 2: Here is a clip of him. 219 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: He's allegedly the guy whose pack was in charge of 220 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: all of those Texas legislators fleeing to the most Jerryman 221 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 1: state in the Union to avoid a vote on Jerry Manderin. 222 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: Here's what he says, kind of defending his position. 223 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 6: We are in a basketball game right now, if you'll 224 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 6: excuse him metaphor, where the refs have left the arena 225 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 6: and the other side is just clabbering the out of 226 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 6: it's just punching us in the face, kicking us in 227 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 6: the nuts, and we're kind of throwing our hands up 228 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 6: and we're asking the crowd, the people of America, hey, 229 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 6: do you see what's going on here? 230 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 7: This is unfair, This isn't. 231 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 6: The rules that we agreed to play by. Well, who 232 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 6: cares about the fun rules right now, punch back, kick back, 233 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 6: dunk over their heads, and win some power. 234 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, so there is a leader in the lib 235 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: side of the aisle calling for ignoring the rules and 236 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: using some pretty aggressive language and metaphors there. Now, I 237 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: don't think Beto's calling for physical violence. I'm not accusing 238 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: him of that, But Andrew, I don't know where does 239 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: this go if Libs tack onto this and say, Okay, yeah, 240 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: screw the rules, We're not going to play by the 241 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: rules because they think we're not playing by the rules, which, 242 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:01,959 Speaker 1: in fact, there's a part of me that says, okay, 243 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: good luck finding that. 244 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 3: There's so many things I could touch on with this, 245 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 3: so I'll try and be quick here. First and foremost 246 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 3: Bob needs to just go away. How many races has 247 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 3: he lost now, like ten or fifteen? And yet you know, 248 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 3: this is the epitome of somebody who's just got way 249 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 3: too much money, is incredibly privileged, and is now trying 250 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 3: to masquerade as something that he's not. 251 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 4: So that's number one. Number two. 252 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 3: I always look at these things through the lens of 253 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 3: what if Trump said it right? 254 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 4: I'm sure there's I t SI what. 255 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 3: If Trump said that, they would be exploding, They would 256 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 3: be losing their minds if Trump said this, and number three, 257 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 3: this kind of quasi metaphor that he presents, let's go 258 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 3: down and let's play out that that horrific metaphor, because 259 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 3: in the event that all the refs have left the field, 260 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 3: we wouldn't be having all of these judges and district courts, 261 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 3: judges overturning every single thing that Trump is trying to do, 262 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 3: you know, quite frankly, I think illegally, but still they're 263 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 3: the they are the referees in this case. Yeah, so 264 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 3: maybe in like one JV basketball game, in his metaphor, 265 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 3: the referees happen to be interpreting the rule book the 266 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 3: right way or just in a different manner, which they're 267 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 3: allowed to do, and he doesn't like the outcome, so 268 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 3: he's just gonna flip the entire institution upside down. 269 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 4: That's BS. 270 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 3: And basically he's admitted to cheating because breaking the rules 271 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 3: is cheating. So if that's what they want to do, 272 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 3: and everybody's wrapping their soft, little weak arms around him, 273 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 3: then they're admitting to cheating as well. 274 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 2: You know. 275 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: Unfortunately, Andrew, we did get word right in the middle 276 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 1: of that rant that a federal judge has overturned your response, 277 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 1: so you'll have to make it on the internet at 278 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: another place, because unfortunately, federal judges are actually still here, 279 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: they haven't left the building. Savannah. The hypocrisy here. I 280 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 1: know we've talked about this redistricting in Texas extensively, but 281 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: apparently it's still going on. They're holding more meetings in 282 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: the legislature there in Texas. The Libs that have left 283 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: the state are still trying to figure out when they're 284 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: going to come back to the state, kind of from 285 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: seeking from a recognizing the hypocrisy where it is. Obviously 286 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: the place they went to is extremely jerrymandered, and all 287 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: of the other places that are saying, hey, we're going 288 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 1: to respond are already extremely jerrymandered. How do we get 289 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: the point to cross that this is a thing and 290 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: it's just here to stay and this is just how 291 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: unfortunately we do politics. 292 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, Joe Bob, I've gotten to the point 293 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 5: just this year. I think we're what eight months into 294 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 5: the year at this point where I am exhausted with 295 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 5: it and I'm not even focusing on what's going on 296 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 5: here in Texas because everything is so performative, I mean, 297 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 5: both on the left and the right, and it's exhausting. 298 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 5: I think the average American is just exhausted with all 299 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 5: of this nonsense, all of this performance from both sides 300 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 5: of the political aisle. It's like, hey, how about we 301 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 5: just get things done for the average person and for 302 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 5: average Americans. How about we just clean up our political system. 303 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 5: How about we make it to where people cannot break 304 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 5: the rules and we all just follow them, so that 305 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 5: way we have a civilized and functioning society. But no, 306 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 5: that is way too much to ask for in twenty 307 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 5: twenty five. 308 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 2: So we have to have. 309 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 5: Beto O'Rourke, who failed his governor's race, president dential race, 310 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 5: his Senate race, standing up in front of the nation, 311 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 5: standing up in front of Texas, trying to pretend that 312 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 5: he speaks for us one. He is, in fact the 313 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 5: biggest joke to come out of the state, behind Jasmine Crockett. 314 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: I fervently disagree. I want my politicians performing at every level. 315 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: I am so happy that the senator in California charged 316 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: the podium during a DHS press conference, and he definitely 317 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: proved a point there. Of course, I hits Savannah Andrew'll 318 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: be back after the break to discuss whether or not 319 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: chatbots are trying to kill you. I know that sounds hyperbolic, 320 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: but it really isn't. An Email the show TPT at 321 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: TPUSA dot com with any of your thoughts. 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That might sound a 341 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: little bit hyperbolic, but at the same time you have 342 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: to ask the question, what is their real motive if 343 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: they're just people pleasers and can. 344 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 2: That leave people astray? 345 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: Let's bring our panel back chef Andrew Gruel and Turning 346 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: Point Frontlines reporter Savannah Hernandez Guys. I thought this was 347 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: really interesting. There's this viral video of this lady kind 348 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: of cataloging her entire process of therapy, and she's meeting 349 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: with a real therapist, but in meeting with the real therapist, 350 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: she's trying to justify what she's saying and doing through 351 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: a chatbot, and effectively she showed that the chatbot convinced 352 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: her that the therapist manipulated her into falling in love 353 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: with him. I know it's crazy and wild and chaotic, 354 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: but Andrew, this kind of reminds me of the early 355 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: on CHATSHEBT days of the AI large language models days 356 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 1: where there were chatbots that convinced people to or at 357 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 1: least tried, hey, you're in love with me, leave your wife, 358 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: or to do a bunch of myriad of other crazy things. 359 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: Considering the fact that a lot of the chatbots are 360 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: kind of catered to people, please, where does that put 361 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 1: a society who's increasingly depending on the advice from the 362 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 1: ais and how do we kind of overcome that. 363 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 2: Want to I don't know, feel. 364 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: Like we're empowered by these ais going forward and how 365 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,360 Speaker 1: we behave If you're at. 366 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 3: The point in your life where you're taking the advice 367 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 3: and life advice from an AI bot or a chatbot, 368 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 3: well I think you're probably far beyond help. But on 369 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,479 Speaker 3: the flip side, I'll also say I might trust an 370 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 3: AI chatbot over a psychologist or a therapist because I 371 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 3: also think that psychology and therapy in America has become 372 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 3: a scam and I think that they're manipulating the minds 373 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 3: of many young people or people with repressed trauma. I've 374 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 3: said that, Come on, if you know any psychologists or 375 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 3: anybody in the psychiatry space, you know that they're typically 376 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 3: the most the craziest person in the room. So it's 377 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 3: certainly an industry that attracts those It's like, you know, 378 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 3: the murderer who ends up is working for the forensic 379 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 3: team with the police force. Yeah, you're just getting inside 380 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 3: to get the tips. But I just think that it's humorous. 381 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 3: At this point, there's always going to be the human 382 00:18:55,080 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 3: touch behind the AI programming development establishment. I don't think 383 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 3: we're at that point where they kind of like run 384 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 3: away and they're sentient and they figure out there, you know, 385 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 3: they kind of have their own identity, ID, super ego, 386 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 3: what have you. So go for the AI chatbot over 387 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 3: the psychologist is my thesis. 388 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 2: Interesting. 389 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,959 Speaker 1: We actually had that story very similar to that yesterday, 390 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: in which I think we kind of concluded that, well, 391 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: there's got to be a human element. But you do 392 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,959 Speaker 1: bring up a good point. A bunch of the psychologists 393 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 1: and therapists are flaming libs, Savnand is your thoughts on 394 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: people who are justifying their own behavior with kind of 395 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: the people pleasing chat bots and. 396 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's that's totally. 397 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 1: Fine that you do those abhorrent things with all of 398 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: those people to site maybe one example, what do you think, you. 399 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 5: Know, Jobob, the biggest problem with everybody in the right 400 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 5: wing is that your other guests just took the words 401 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 5: right out of my mouth. Chef Andrew said the exact 402 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 5: same same thing that I was going to say right that. Essentially, 403 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 5: these AI chatbots, like pipists, are already like that where 404 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 5: they kind of manipulate people and tell to telling them 405 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 5: what they want to hear. Anyway, there's actually so many 406 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 5: books and so many studies on how therapy actually exacerbates 407 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 5: your problem because instead of moving forward, you're continuing to 408 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 5: sit there and dwell on it for years and years 409 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 5: and years. So, if anything, I think that the AI 410 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 5: chatbots kind of exposing how negative therapy is is a 411 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:27,679 Speaker 5: good I guess side effect of this. Simultaneously, you know, 412 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 5: perhaps Darwin was right in terms of natural selection. If you, 413 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 5: as a human being are not smart enough to walk 414 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 5: away from your computer or understand that that's not a 415 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:41,400 Speaker 5: real life human being with solid and positive wisdom for you, 416 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 5: you're not gonna make it, my dude, because AI is 417 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 5: in its infancy stage right now. It only gets worse 418 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 5: from here. So if you're already following for this, just 419 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 5: lock yourself in a bubble, turn off your computer, because 420 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 5: it's over for you, my dude. 421 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: That is a great answer, and I'm just checking and 422 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,360 Speaker 1: see what chat TBT says to do next ass move 423 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: on to the next topic. Okay, so, now that I've 424 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: been instructed thoroughly by my chat gpt bot, this I 425 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: thought was really interesting, and we're kind of getting in 426 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: some nuanced areas here because I think. 427 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 2: This is fascinating. On the forefront of it. 428 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: My initial reaction is I hate that, but also, you know, 429 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, I'd love to get your thoughts. They're 430 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: British police in Surrey, which is a city or region. 431 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 1: I don't really know the UK all that well, but 432 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: British police basically female police dressed up in plane clothes 433 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 1: but also just jogging attire, and we're jogging around the 434 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: community toward in order to illicit cat calls I guess, 435 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 1: which they've mentioned wasn't illegal. But the program, this pilot 436 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: program lasted for a month and they actually made eighteen 437 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: arrests for harassment and other things like theft. 438 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 2: Andrew, I don't know. 439 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:48,880 Speaker 1: I'm super uncomfortable with police officers kind of putting themselves 440 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: in positions to entice people to commit crimes. 441 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 2: But at the same time, if. 442 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: Jogging and jogging apparel makes somebody think, hey, I can 443 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: rob that lady turns out she's a you know, especially 444 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: with the denigration of European culture as a whole, I'm 445 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: not entirely sure that I firmly fall on either side 446 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: of this thing. 447 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 3: Well yeah, and especially in the UK, where they're arresting 448 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 3: you for saying the wrong thing online, that they're concerned 449 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 3: about this one when actual criminals are getting arrested. I 450 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 3: understand the kind of the libertarian principle behind this and 451 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,439 Speaker 3: entrapman and it's like the government overreach. But on the 452 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,360 Speaker 3: other hand, I also firmly believe in the idea that 453 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 3: one act kind of you know, one act or certain 454 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 3: types of behavior are indicative of a much deeper pathological problem. 455 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,719 Speaker 3: And this is one of those that has always bothered me. 456 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 3: So putting aside any political principle just on its surface, 457 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 3: Guys who cat call and are like hey baby, and 458 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 3: you know, make all those noises blow my mind because 459 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 3: do they like, has there ever been an instance in 460 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 3: the world ever in history where somebody cat called and 461 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,719 Speaker 3: then the way the lady was like, oh yeah, I 462 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 3: like that right. It's just very low i que behavior. 463 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 3: So people who would do that are broken to begin with, 464 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 3: and they probably have other issues that would lead to 465 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 3: much bigger crimes. So I'm one hundred percent okay with this. 466 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 3: Actually I think we should do more of it. 467 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:13,360 Speaker 2: Interesting. 468 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:17,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, again, culturally speaking, people don't understand the cultural dynamics. 469 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: You know, there has to be something done. If you 470 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,199 Speaker 1: actually commit a crime too, Yeah, you should be arrested 471 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: and tried for that, Savannah, I guess a question obvious. 472 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: The first one is has that ever worked on you? 473 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: Has cat calling ever worked? And if so, tell us 474 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 1: about it. But also if not, you know what is 475 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: happening here in the UK, and I hate to bury 476 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 1: the lead here. Do you have any insight into the 477 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: cultural differences that have afflicted the United Kingdom our neighbors 478 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: across the pond? Yeah? 479 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 11: You know. 480 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 5: The best I guess response to this that I saw 481 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 5: was as soon as they figure out the demographic that 482 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,679 Speaker 5: is committing the majority of these tackles, this program's going 483 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 5: to be shut down real quick now. Going into this 484 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 5: this topic as a woman, right, because sure I have 485 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,120 Speaker 5: been cat called before, but it is a very rare thing, 486 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 5: and I live in the United States of America. I 487 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 5: guarantee you it's even more rare in the UK. So 488 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:10,959 Speaker 5: to be quite honest with you, I think that this 489 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 5: is their polease state, drumming up issues that don't truly 490 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,199 Speaker 5: exist instead of actually focusing in on protecting people. This 491 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 5: is just another way to come in and essentially trample 492 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,719 Speaker 5: over people's rights and their ability to speak, because what stops, like, 493 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 5: what is cat calling that at this point? For example, 494 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 5: just this last weekend, I was walking into Chick fil 495 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 5: A to get some lunch. This guy stops me and goes, hey, 496 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 5: I just want to say, really beautiful, If I decide 497 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 5: that's cat calling, is that man going to then get 498 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 5: arrested in the UK. It's a huge slippery slope. And 499 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 5: to be quite honest with you, the cat calling in 500 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 5: this entire program here, I do feel is just drumming 501 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 5: up a problem that does not need to be focused 502 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 5: in on when the entire the entire country is dealing 503 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 5: with like Pakistani grooming gangs that are targeting young girls 504 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 5: and raping them, Like what the hell are we doing? 505 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 3: Sorry? 506 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: No, and then' that's again good point, I think or 507 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: your early point of like the demographics of who's doing 508 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: the cat calling might actually play into that, in which case, 509 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,479 Speaker 1: you know, maybe there's a there's some benefit to it, 510 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 1: even though it's, like you said, a slippery slope. 511 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 2: Really kind of sticky stuff. 512 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,439 Speaker 1: I know we're not usually into the trickier type of 513 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: topics here, but I appreciate you guys playing along and 514 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: talking about it. Andrew Grul, Savann Hernandez, guys, thanks so 515 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 1: much for joining us. Really appreciate you taking the time. 516 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 5: Thanks for having us. 517 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 4: Joe, Bob, thank you. 518 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 2: Thank you. Come up next year on Turning Point. 519 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: Tonight, we've got a fascinating clip from ox Clar's Culture 520 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: Apothecary podcast, Don't Forget. You can email the show anytime 521 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: you want. TPT ATPUSA dot com. 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So this is kind of what 539 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 11: got me into this space. Last year, I had the 540 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 11: flu ten times, okay, like no lie flu a or 541 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 11: flu B. It would just like I would have that 542 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 11: for one week flu a, and then I would have 543 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 11: it for like seven eight days. Then I would get 544 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 11: better and then I would have flub and then it 545 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 11: just happened every single month. Like doctors were like, we've 546 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 11: never seen this before, so they've done all this blood work, 547 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 11: tried to figure out what's going on. This actually kind 548 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 11: of technically started more in twenty twenty three, the end 549 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 11: of twenty twenty three before I got my implants. But 550 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 11: it almost got worse with my implants. But it makes 551 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 11: a lot of sense. I mean, you have this like 552 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 11: foreign object in your body, and now from what I've learned, 553 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 11: it's like that's what my body is now attacking. So 554 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,719 Speaker 11: I'm my immune system is not acting like normal, and 555 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 11: so I don't know. So That's kind of what got 556 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 11: me into the space. I was like, I'm gonna do 557 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 11: everything I possibly can, and if it's still if I'm 558 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 11: still not better, and I'm not if my immune system 559 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 11: doesn't get better, then I should take the implants out 560 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,919 Speaker 11: and see. So, yeah, I have been dabbling more with 561 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 11: the crunchy. Not only that, but just like mental health wise, 562 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 11: I feel like there's I had an unmedicated birth this 563 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 11: for my third baby, which was so crazy amazing, the 564 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 11: best experience ever, like I mean, okay, sorry, like the 565 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,400 Speaker 11: worst experience because it's unmedicated birth and it's really painful, 566 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 11: but like, I have never been more proud of myself 567 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 11: in my life. 568 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 12: How did that compare to having your other babies that 569 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:58,199 Speaker 12: were medicated births. 570 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,919 Speaker 11: The biggest difference was my mental health health after I 571 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 11: have had the worst postpartums with both both of my children. 572 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:09,239 Speaker 11: With my first, I went on an SSRI. I was 573 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,640 Speaker 11: four months postpartum, laying in bed thinking I don't want 574 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 11: to live anymore. I was sleeping twelve hours a day, 575 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,679 Speaker 11: like napping six hours. It was horrible and it was 576 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 11: I mean, it was basically like textbook postpartum depression. Yeah, 577 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 11: but I had never had depression or any mental health issues. 578 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 11: I didn't know what I was dealing with. So but 579 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 11: then I told my husband. I was like, hey, I 580 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 11: don't know if this is normal, but like I kind 581 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 11: of just don't really feel like there's a purpose to 582 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 11: living anymore. And he was like, and I'm the most typically, 583 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 11: most energetic, like I love life, And he was like, yeah, 584 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,959 Speaker 11: this is not Danny went to a doctor immediately. They're like, 585 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 11: that's postpartum depression, right. So I don't know what got 586 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 11: me into that state. There's probably a ton of things. 587 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 11: I was working way too much, I was not balanced 588 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 11: nutrition wise, probably wasn't doing great. Maybe the epidural, maybe 589 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 11: some of the drugs that they gave me in the hospital. 590 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,719 Speaker 11: Who knows. You know, you do all these things and 591 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 11: all you can do is your best and just try to, 592 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 11: you know, fix these little uh you know, bridge the 593 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 11: gap in the ways that you can. But I decided 594 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 11: for this third baby, I was like, I'm gonna go 595 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 11: old school and just like follow my gut and like 596 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 11: I'm made, like God made me to be able to 597 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 11: do this. You know, I want to see if when 598 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 11: I do this, if it's a different experience and like 599 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 11: I know that I can, and so I just went 600 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 11: for it. I actually told my husband like two weeks before. 601 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 11: I was like, hey, just so you know, I think 602 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 11: I'm not gonna get up, but they're always like okay, yeah, 603 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 11: sure whatever, and I you dine it. I had a doula, 604 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 11: and that's one thing I'm like, birth is a girl's game. 605 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 11: You need other women there that understand and can speak 606 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 11: into you, hold your hand and be like Danny, you 607 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 11: got this, you like you're made for this. Keep going. 608 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 11: And the whole time I'm telling them I do like 609 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 11: I can't, I can't do this. She's like, Danny, yes 610 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 11: you can. And she kept telling me I've done this 611 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 11: three times, so you can do it like and I 612 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 11: was like, yeah, you're right, Like we can both do it. 613 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 11: And it was just like after I had a summit 614 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 11: that's his name, I was like on cloud nine. For Honestly, 615 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 11: up to this point, I have not had postpribone depression 616 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 11: this go around. Oh my gosh, so for you. So yeah, 617 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 11: I don't know what it is. Yeah, but I just 618 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 11: felt like I wanted to strip it down, take it 619 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 11: back to the roots, just be more. 620 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 12: Just do it like in a more natural way, and 621 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,239 Speaker 12: what was your experience, like, are you are you off 622 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 12: the SSRI or still on it? 623 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 11: I'm still on it, And how is it going for you? Honestly, honestly, 624 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 11: it's going great. I'm going to very low dosage. I'm 625 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 11: too scared to get. 626 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 13: Off of it. 627 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 12: And you gotta be careful. 628 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 11: Yeah, you have to be careful. You have to wean 629 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 11: yourself off of it, and that is something that I 630 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 11: would love to explore. I started following this guy on 631 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 11: I think he's on TikTok or Instagram, and he was 632 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 11: weaning himself off of his SSRI and he was doing 633 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 11: these like cold plunges in the river. He was doing 634 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 11: cold blunches to like regulate his system to get off 635 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 11: of it. And I was like, man, if this is 636 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 11: what I have to do, I don't have time for 637 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 11: this right now. I got three babies at home. But 638 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 11: I would love to get to that point. 639 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 12: I think it's admirable that you talk about the postpartum 640 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 12: depression and all of that, because man, that's something that 641 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 12: a lot of people don't want it because then it's like, 642 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 12: oh my gosh, if I say this, does that mean 643 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 12: people are going to think that I'm a bad mother, 644 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 12: you know what I mean. So I think that's really 645 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 12: important that. 646 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 11: You do that. 647 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 12: How do you decide what you are and are not 648 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 12: willing to share on your platform? 649 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 11: I have learned the hard way with being extremely vulnerable 650 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 11: on my platforms. So I started making YouTube videos when 651 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 11: I was nineteen years old in my dorm room, and 652 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 11: I have grown up with my audience. I've shared everything 653 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 11: with them, Like I knew my audience before I met 654 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 11: my husband. When I started dating my husband, you know, 655 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 11: I started putting him in boyfriend tags and date vlogs 656 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 11: and so it's just kind of like a part of 657 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 11: my lifestyle now is sharing everything. But then I've gone 658 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 11: through some really hard times in life where I've learned that, 659 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 11: you know, boundaries are just as powerful as vulnerability. And 660 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 11: I've decided now like when I'm going to share something, 661 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 11: i'd rather come from a place of healing and when 662 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 11: my wound is already kind of healed than these like 663 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 11: scars or I'm bleeding out and I don't know the 664 00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 11: right direction, because honestly, it's very it's hard whenever so 665 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 11: many people are speaking into your life, it can kind 666 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 11: of like make you live or make you choose make 667 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 11: these decisions that aren't really you because you feel the 668 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 11: pressure from everyone else. I don't know if you feel 669 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 11: that way. I know that I don't know. Like in 670 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 11: the dating scene, like whatever it is, it's just hard 671 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 11: to share things that you maybe don't even know the 672 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 11: answer to just yet. It's such a tricky game to 673 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 11: figure out. So with my last relationship, I had a plan. 674 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 11: We'd actually talked about it. 675 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,479 Speaker 12: I was like, I'm not so My thing is, I'm 676 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 12: not posting anybody again until I'm engaged, Like I'm never 677 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 12: doing this with my audience again. Good Doundrey, Okay, I 678 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 12: thought so too. Oh and I that was the plan. 679 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 12: And then like him and I were going out, We're 680 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 12: at basketball games, whatever, and I would post little teases 681 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 12: on my Instagram story, but I was like purposely not 682 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 12: following him on social media. I was trying to make 683 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 12: sure they couldn't find who it was. We were going 684 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 12: to basketball games and stuff. They were watching ESPN taking 685 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 12: pictures sharing it on like this is who it has 686 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 12: figured out his identity and then like the whole cat 687 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 12: was out of the bag. And at that point I'm like, hey, 688 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 12: well everybody knows who you are, so I guess we 689 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 12: might as well just just go for it, go for it. 690 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 12: So we did, and then we didn't end up working out, 691 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 12: and then like here I am again, like all over again, 692 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 12: being like, okay, I introduce you to this guy. 693 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 11: Now this didn't work out. 694 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 12: That's why I didn't want to share that in the 695 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 12: first place. It was very much I was going through 696 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 12: Like when we first started dating. It was very much 697 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 12: a Sabrina Carpenter please please, please, don't you embarrass me 698 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 12: and effort, you know what I mean? Like, it was 699 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 12: very much that, and you know, I learned my lesson again. 700 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 12: So now I'm like very I'm like never, I'm never 701 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 12: posting anybody again, because yeah, it's hard. But then if 702 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 12: you don't, they're like, why is she keeping this person 703 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 12: from us? Like it's like a very entitled we deserve 704 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 12: to know this information because we've supported you for so long, 705 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 12: so you need to tell us. 706 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 11: Do you feel that way one thousand percent? But like 707 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 11: we also have to kind of respect ourselves enough to 708 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 11: know those boundaries. And I think that when you do 709 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 11: set boundaries and you stick to them, people end up 710 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 11: respecting you more. It's like more it's a stronger influence 711 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 11: than just like letting someone just run all over you. 712 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 11: But it's definitely it's definitely hard. And I the thing is, 713 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 11: I love to be vulnerable. I love to share what's 714 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 11: going on in my life. I love to kind of 715 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 11: like connect with women through those struggles. But I've also learned, 716 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 11: because like I had to take two months off last year, 717 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 11: Like I've learned the hard way of saying hey, like 718 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,800 Speaker 11: I gave you guys everything, and it wasn't their fault. 719 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 11: It was my fault for not setting those boundaries. And 720 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 11: now I literally had to like I ran myself into 721 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 11: the ground. I want to have boundaries so that I 722 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 11: can show up long term. 723 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 12: Have you tried raw milk yet? 724 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 11: Is it illegal? 725 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 12: I don't know what it is in No Texas. Some 726 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 12: states you have to buy it and it's called pet milk. 727 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 12: They can't even say it's human milk. Sometimes it's for 728 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 12: human conception. Some states, I mean California, Arizona, you can 729 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 12: just buying the grocery store. 730 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 6: No. 731 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 11: I have been dying to get my hands on raw milk. 732 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 11: And apparently there is like an underground supplier year in 733 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 11: Dallas that I've been hearing out. But you have to 734 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 11: like go like early morning or all cells out. But 735 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 11: like somebody told me that it was like illegal. Why 736 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 11: is raw milk illegal? That's what you need to do 737 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 11: is you need to do a series. 738 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 12: You need to be like on the Quest for Raw 739 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 12: Milk danting Austin, You're out middle of the night with 740 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 12: a lantern. 741 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,360 Speaker 11: I can do that. You didn't get in trouble. 742 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:06,879 Speaker 12: There will be people that freak out. I mean, look 743 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 12: Emma Roberts. You know the actress Emma Roberts. Yes, so 744 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 12: she did a campaign, one of those regular dairy milk campaigns. 745 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,320 Speaker 12: She was just posting about like we should be drinking milk. 746 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 12: She's paid like the Got Milk people and her comments. 747 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 12: But also these are all like Hollywood people that get 748 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 12: very offended. They were like, how dare you promote drinking milk? 749 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 11: You know that's a dairy product. 750 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,800 Speaker 12: We shouldn't be drinking it because it comes from animals. 751 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 11: The vegans. 752 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,800 Speaker 12: Freak out the veg But like, I feel like your 753 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 12: audience would probably be like raw row Sisterhood, Yeah, I mean, 754 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 12: you've been hanging out with Taylor Duke's she has because 755 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 12: she's a mutual friend of ours. Taylor will get you 756 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 12: your Dallas raw milk cookup. 757 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 11: No, for sure. At the time, I was also breastfeeding 758 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 11: whenever we hung out, so at that time she was like, 759 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 11: girls just put breast milk and everything. Yeah, but no, 760 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 11: I would love to try. I've heard amazing things, but like, truly, 761 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,799 Speaker 11: do you actually know why it's ille because it could 762 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,839 Speaker 11: be unsafe, But like, isn't there a lot of other 763 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 11: and see things that well, sure, okay, let's not go 764 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:03,439 Speaker 11: down this rebel hole. 765 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 12: You know I really have that can tell you asked 766 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,799 Speaker 12: me about that on your show. Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, 767 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,320 Speaker 12: let's let's talk about the breast implants. Yeah, you're seriously 768 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 12: considering taking your breast implants out. When I saw that 769 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,719 Speaker 12: you were going through being sick over and over and 770 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 12: over again, that was the first thing I have to 771 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 12: tell you, the first thing I was like, it's that's 772 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 12: what it is, no doubt in my mind has to be. 773 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 12: That is such a commonality with women that like the 774 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 12: sickness that you cannot you cannot kick all these weird symptoms, 775 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 12: and that's what it ends up being. 776 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 11: Got it. 777 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 8: Admire what you've been able to do, not to weaponize, 778 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 8: but to organize on these college campuses. 779 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,320 Speaker 9: At Turning Point USA. We've spent thirteen years building the machine, 780 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 9: and last year we sought payoff. Our grassroots army is 781 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 9: making a real difference. Help us keep the momentum going. 782 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 9: Donate today and keep keep USA strong on campuses across 783 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,240 Speaker 9: the area. 784 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,799 Speaker 10: And for a gift of any amount, you'll receive your 785 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 10: big GOV Sucks Cooler claim yours today. 786 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,759 Speaker 8: Got to admire what you've been able to do, not 787 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,799 Speaker 8: to weaponize, but to organize on these college campuses. 788 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 9: At Turning Point USA. We've spent thirteen years building the machine, 789 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,800 Speaker 9: and last year we sought payoff. 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I think it was the first T 800 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 1: shirt I had to or the social sucks one of them. 801 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,279 Speaker 1: Think of suck, socialism sucks. You want it on your 802 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 1: cooler tpusa dot com. Donation of an email gets that. 803 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:07,759 Speaker 1: You can also email the show any time you want 804 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 1: TPT at tpusa dot com. You can email whether you 805 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:11,719 Speaker 1: agree or whether you're wrong. We love seeing all of 806 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 1: your emails, especially when you send us hilarious things like 807 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 1: this to watch on Woke Wednesday. I think I asked 808 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 1: this every single week when we do Woke Wednesday. Can 809 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:26,920 Speaker 1: somebody find her? 810 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:27,359 Speaker 7: Like? 811 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 2: Where is she? Now? 812 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 6: Is she? 813 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 1: I hope she's thriving. I hope she's doing well. She's 814 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,800 Speaker 1: kind of come around from her old ways of screaming 815 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,880 Speaker 1: outside of inaugurations. I don't know if that was like 816 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 1: her main thing and highlight her best jackets. But send 817 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 1: us an email TPT at tpusa dot com if you 818 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,839 Speaker 1: find this young woman or young day or we get 819 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:50,280 Speaker 1: whatever it is. It's so upset at President Trump's first inauguration. 820 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 1: I'd love to keep some keep track and see where 821 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 1: where life has taken her. Anyways, Woke Wednesday. Here, this 822 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 1: is this is a wo for the ages, and not 823 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 1: necessarily I'm not gonna I'm not gonna explain it, Just 824 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 1: just play the clip. 825 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:07,799 Speaker 2: It shouldn't be no Section eight. 826 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 14: There shouldn't be an old food stemps. 827 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 2: It shouldn't be poor people. 828 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:15,640 Speaker 14: There shouldn't be no welfare US US law abiding taxpayers. 829 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 4: We are sick of paying for your food. 830 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 2: And what if what if there was. 831 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,839 Speaker 14: A law right now today and it wiped y'all off 832 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 14: the face of the earth, all the rich taxpayers that's 833 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 14: got all this money. If what if the what if 834 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,879 Speaker 14: the law came down and said, you know what, this 835 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 14: world is only for those on welfare in public aid 836 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,719 Speaker 14: and public assistance and food steps in section eight and 837 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 14: the government of benefits, and we just gonna get rid 838 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:45,399 Speaker 14: of the rest of them. 839 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 2: How about that? 840 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 1: Okay, So casually calling for mass genocide I think is 841 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 1: probably problematic, But let's just take that as a statement 842 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 1: of fact and not necessarily say wipe you off the 843 00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,920 Speaker 1: face of the earth, but remove you from this particular era. 844 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 2: If you are a tax. 845 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 1: Paying citizen of this country who is concerned about the 846 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,840 Speaker 1: efficiency at which your dollar is being used, you can't 847 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,360 Speaker 1: live in this particular spot, this spot is only for 848 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 1: people on government welfare. 849 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,880 Speaker 2: I'll take that deal. I'll take that deal any day 850 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:17,279 Speaker 2: of the week. 851 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 1: If we can create an entire state with where we 852 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 1: put all of the people that do the government welfare 853 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,719 Speaker 1: thing and abuse the system by not conjection the people 854 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,320 Speaker 1: that actually need help, I would hope that there is 855 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 1: a church community that could help them instead of the faceless, 856 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 1: nameless federal government just giving money out to everybody because 857 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 1: there's right right with fraud and all that sort of stuff. 858 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,359 Speaker 1: But aside kind of going on Tangier, if there could 859 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 1: be like a specific geographic location to where the people 860 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,880 Speaker 1: who are paying taxes and contributing members of society can't 861 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 1: be I won't be there a lot will I will 862 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:54,799 Speaker 1: be the first person to not be there. I'm cool 863 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:58,400 Speaker 1: with that. So if we take out the again genocidal 864 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,480 Speaker 1: cause here, genocidal call here for the people to be 865 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 1: wiped out to face urse, and instead say hey, you 866 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,719 Speaker 1: can't be in this particular location again, I will be 867 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,400 Speaker 1: the first in line to not be there. It sounds great. 868 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:11,719 Speaker 1: This is a woke Wednesday and of itself before we 869 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 1: run out of time, that's very short, and this this 870 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 1: is this is like an undercover woke. This is a 871 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 1: someone trying to be inclusive and ended up being racist 872 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 1: on accident. 873 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 2: Watch this. 874 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:25,759 Speaker 11: Hi Oh now. 875 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 2: I'm Korean? Oh? 876 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:35,399 Speaker 3: Hi? 877 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:41,439 Speaker 2: How do I say hello in Chinese? Mehow I'm Korean? Man? 878 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:41,920 Speaker 1: Oh? 879 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 2: Sounds like too. 880 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 1: You might have been born in this country effectively, as 881 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 1: an American. I get that from time to time, people 882 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,720 Speaker 1: who think they're being inclusive and great and say, hey, 883 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,719 Speaker 1: how do you make lumpia? I'm like, kid, that's a 884 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:58,720 Speaker 1: Filipino dish. I'm Samoan, so very far apart, very separate places. 885 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 1: I guess our skin color is the same, but to 886 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 1: categorize the same thing would be in fact racist on accident, 887 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 1: as Wolkes often are. That's going to do it for 888 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:07,880 Speaker 1: us here, turning point tonight, thanks so much for tuning in. 889 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 1: Charlie is going to take us out. We will see 890 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:25,000 Speaker 1: a tame time, same place tomorrow. God bless America. 891 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 13: And still the idea of surrendering or accepting any human 892 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:32,319 Speaker 13: authority as supreme, I find it kind of repulsive. And 893 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 13: I believe that there are significant institutional, if not constitutional 894 00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,319 Speaker 13: changes coming to your country, because I believe that there 895 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:43,480 Speaker 13: is an appetite for more freedom that is growing. 896 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,440 Speaker 9: Freedom cannot exist without virtue, and so freedom will come 897 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,279 Speaker 9: after and it's happening right now. People go to church 898 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 9: and give their life to God. You cannot have a 899 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 9: free society if you do not have a society that 900 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:55,920 Speaker 9: values God. 901 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:56,360 Speaker 7: It's impact. 902 00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:00,800 Speaker 9: That's why continental Europe is so unfree. It's secular. It's interesting, 903 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:05,279 Speaker 9: and so the you pinpoint something. First of all, there's 904 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,520 Speaker 9: a great verse that I think you'll love Romans twelfth two, 905 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,360 Speaker 9: which is, do not conform to the ways of this world, 906 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:14,120 Speaker 9: but instead be transformed by the renewing of your mind. 907 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:15,800 Speaker 9: Fact check me if I got it right. Romans twelfth, 908 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,759 Speaker 9: you're checking you. I'm just the believer's constitution. 909 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 13: I consider you a kind of living Bible. 910 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,239 Speaker 9: I'm not quite a living Bible, but I do take 911 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,480 Speaker 9: that seriously. So Romans twelfth too, it's one of my 912 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,080 Speaker 9: favorite verses because you talked about your mindset. So that's 913 00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:34,000 Speaker 9: Romans right there. I think, yes, yeah, twelve two, Well 914 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,600 Speaker 9: that was eleven. But Romans eleven is also very important 915 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,840 Speaker 9: about us being grafted on top of the I. 916 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 13: Don't know if it's okay for me to tease you 917 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:44,279 Speaker 13: about your what I would consider enjoyable aspergers. 918 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,760 Speaker 7: Oh thank you. It's fine because when. 919 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,600 Speaker 13: I see all your losinges lined up and everything, they 920 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,600 Speaker 13: teached you about it once before, and I thought that'd 921 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,000 Speaker 13: be mean because of feeling people with aspergers and all 922 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:56,480 Speaker 13: of that. Suddenly I feel like you might be a 923 00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,839 Speaker 13: little bit artistic actually, as it turns out. 924 00:43:58,840 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 4: But like we said, that's eleven. 925 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,359 Speaker 7: That's also good till twelve two. We've got to get 926 00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,960 Speaker 7: to that. It's very you like, sort of. 927 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:06,839 Speaker 13: I would say you're like right wing rain Man. 928 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:07,920 Speaker 7: Okay, i'll take it. 929 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 9: Right wing rain Man. Russell Brand put that on the website. 930 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,760 Speaker 13: That's the title thumb now print. 931 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,960 Speaker 9: I bet that's an endorsement right wing rain Man. 932 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:22,040 Speaker 2: All right. 933 00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:25,400 Speaker 13: So this is a new international version, probably Charlie, so 934 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,880 Speaker 13: that any distinctions are likely because of the translation. 935 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:29,120 Speaker 7: I want nitpick that. 936 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:29,920 Speaker 2: But what do you go with? 937 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's or a new King James, one of the 938 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:34,000 Speaker 7: I like esp as well. 939 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:34,560 Speaker 9: All right. 940 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:38,319 Speaker 13: So and so, dear brothers and sisters, I plead with 941 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 13: you to give your bodies to God because of. 942 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:41,880 Speaker 7: All He has done for you. 943 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,560 Speaker 13: Let them be a living, holy sacrifice, the kind he 944 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:49,560 Speaker 13: will find acceptable. This is truly the way to worship him. 945 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,719 Speaker 13: Don't copy the behavior and customs of this world, but 946 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:56,240 Speaker 13: let God transform you into a new person by changing 947 00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 13: the way you think. Then you will learn to know 948 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,640 Speaker 13: God's will for you, which is good and pleasing and perfect. 949 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:02,840 Speaker 2: It's beautiful. 950 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,800 Speaker 13: I like that it starts off Charlie as well, Yah, praise 951 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,920 Speaker 13: the Lord. I like that it starts off with give 952 00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,120 Speaker 13: your body like. That's one of the things that hit 953 00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:14,280 Speaker 13: me early on through Saint Paul, I think in Corinthians. 954 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,520 Speaker 13: And it was somewhat by the brilliant rendering of the 955 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,719 Speaker 13: British pastor that I first heard use these words in 956 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,040 Speaker 13: a sermon, even though their words were all familiar with 957 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:29,600 Speaker 13: that's frequently misused, of course, sarcastically, even ironically. Do you 958 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,200 Speaker 13: not know that your body is a temple? Do not 959 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,000 Speaker 13: know it has that prefix? Do you not know that 960 00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,520 Speaker 13: your body is a temple? I like the gentleness of you. 961 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,160 Speaker 13: Wouldn't be doing this if you knew that your body 962 00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,920 Speaker 13: was a temple. I lived like someone who didn't know 963 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,719 Speaker 13: that their body was a temple, a dwelling place for 964 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:47,960 Speaker 13: the Holy Spirit, a place for the Lord to inhabit. 965 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,800 Speaker 13: We no longer have a tabernacle that has to be carried, 966 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:52,680 Speaker 13: that could go off at any time and kill everyone. 967 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,040 Speaker 13: We are a living tabernaturil. 968 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:56,240 Speaker 7: We are the. 969 00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,160 Speaker 13: Site of His holiness and his grace. Now I want 970 00:45:58,160 --> 00:45:59,279 Speaker 13: to put this before you because I'm think of a 971 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,200 Speaker 13: saying where I'm talking the audience later, which I'm a 972 00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,120 Speaker 13: bit nervous about, Charlie, I'm a bit nervous about talking 973 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,120 Speaker 13: in front of a big audience. I get, I do 974 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:05,840 Speaker 13: get nervous. 975 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:08,040 Speaker 7: See this thing. 976 00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,200 Speaker 13: When I went to Rome the other day, I was 977 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,120 Speaker 13: in one of these churches, you know, like, if you 978 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:14,399 Speaker 13: ever go to Rome, you've got to go. It's amazing. 979 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,719 Speaker 13: I don't mean it's incredible Rome in Florida, because there 980 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:17,760 Speaker 13: is one is there are Georgia. 981 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,520 Speaker 7: I don't mean that one. I mean there is Georgia. Yeah, 982 00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,000 Speaker 7: I mean I mean the one with Italians in it. 983 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:26,840 Speaker 13: There's probably something in Georgia's, weren't they, But like anyway, 984 00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:28,960 Speaker 13: I mean full of them, brimming. 985 00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:30,400 Speaker 7: Over everywhere you look. 986 00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,200 Speaker 13: One of these churches has got three Caravaggios in it, 987 00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,760 Speaker 13: of Saint Matthew. One Caravaggio is one of my favorite 988 00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,040 Speaker 13: sort of Late Renaissance artists. There's a lot of darkness 989 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,960 Speaker 13: in the way he paints, and shafts of light. They 990 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:46,360 Speaker 13: say that Francis Coppola used his image system heavily for 991 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:50,680 Speaker 13: the Godfather movies. Anyway, there's this one image painting, beautiful, 992 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:55,960 Speaker 13: unbelievably beautiful painting of Saint Matthew being appointed and anointed 993 00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,239 Speaker 13: like Chosen, like I suppose in the show Chosen, when 994 00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:01,200 Speaker 13: our Lord goes, wait follow me, he goes, oh, he's 995 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:02,200 Speaker 13: not from Essex, but you. 996 00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:05,040 Speaker 7: Know, like Matthew was a tax collect remember, so they say. 997 00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,759 Speaker 13: And in this picture he's depicted has been sat around 998 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:09,960 Speaker 13: with a bunch of other tax payers and near do wells, 999 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:11,680 Speaker 13: and at the end of the table rather like this 1000 00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:13,480 Speaker 13: one that you and I are at, Charlie, surrounded by them, 1001 00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,520 Speaker 13: look like they're playing games of chance. I believe it's 1002 00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:16,960 Speaker 13: Saint Matthew at the end of though it's one of 1003 00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,600 Speaker 13: those paintings where there's some discussion over which one is Matthew, 1004 00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,799 Speaker 13: the one I think is Matthew. When the paint's called 1005 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,040 Speaker 13: the anointing of Matthew or the pointing of Matthew, I 1006 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,759 Speaker 13: can't remember which, probably a point in I suppose, like 1007 00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,040 Speaker 13: one of the Geezers is sat at the end like that, 1008 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,520 Speaker 13: and I think that's the one that's Matthew. That one 1009 00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:37,040 Speaker 13: what you who's getting appointed, and you will understand he's 1010 00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,440 Speaker 13: reluctance to be a pointed in this holy mission when 1011 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,160 Speaker 13: you see that. The next of their they're not a triptich, 1012 00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,560 Speaker 13: but they are three paintings hung together is Matthew with 1013 00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:50,200 Speaker 13: Gabriel Wright in his Testament and Gospel. And then the 1014 00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:53,440 Speaker 13: final image is Matthew being flayed, which means skinned alive 1015 00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,080 Speaker 13: for his faith and for his Christianity. 1016 00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:59,319 Speaker 7: I thought, if we believe. 1017 00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,680 Speaker 13: As he believed, how could it be that you could 1018 00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,320 Speaker 13: have an institution like the Vatkan and not have a revolution? 1019 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,400 Speaker 13: If we believed as he believed, how could you have 1020 00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,400 Speaker 13: us go into church every Sunday praying, teaching our kids 1021 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,160 Speaker 13: reading the Word and not have the revolution or at 1022 00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,520 Speaker 13: least the way he made straight for the return of 1023 00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,960 Speaker 13: our Savior. If we believed only as Paul believed, as 1024 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:23,080 Speaker 13: Peter believed, as Barnabas believed, as Mary believed, as Stephen believed, 1025 00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:25,719 Speaker 13: this is the church that excites and interests me. And 1026 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:27,799 Speaker 13: I know it comes at a high cost, and I 1027 00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:29,840 Speaker 13: know what our Lord said to is it a Nias 1028 00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:33,120 Speaker 13: when Paul's on his way of Damascus. Paul's come in. 1029 00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:37,080 Speaker 13: I've chosen him. He's going to suffer greatly for my name. 1030 00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:38,879 Speaker 13: So go over there and sort his head out. He's 1031 00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:40,439 Speaker 13: gone blind, he's had a little bit of a shock 1032 00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,560 Speaker 13: on the way here, paraphrasing. 1033 00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,200 Speaker 7: But what I feel is that it was. 1034 00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,920 Speaker 13: A thresholder was past, Charlie, that I was still withheld 1035 00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,120 Speaker 13: in the New Age, and I still bear the scars 1036 00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:52,759 Speaker 13: of the New Age. 1037 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:53,920 Speaker 7: I was going to ask you about that, but I 1038 00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:54,840 Speaker 7: wanted to be polite. 1039 00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:58,120 Speaker 13: She is a great goddess in you know, this is 1040 00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,040 Speaker 13: atatle I've had for some years now, of course. 1041 00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,440 Speaker 7: Coming I mean, why'd you decide to get a tattoo 1042 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:02,680 Speaker 7: of her? 1043 00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:07,799 Speaker 13: Because Dergha is a she's female goddess energy. And I 1044 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,680 Speaker 13: have a wife, and I have two daughters, and I 1045 00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,400 Speaker 13: always commemorate in and celebrate in the power of my 1046 00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:17,080 Speaker 13: wife Laura, and of my daughters Mabel and Peggy. 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