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Speaker 3: I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been
Speaker 3: on a journey to prove the existence of life after death.
Speaker 3: On each episode, we'll discuss the reasons we now know
Speaker 3: that our loved ones have survived physical debt, and so
Speaker 3: will we. Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. I started
Speaker 3: my first podcast, We Don't Die Radio, almost fourteen years ago,
Speaker 3: and since then I've interviewed well over four hundred people
Speaker 3: about their belief in the afterlife. I had doctor Michael Newton,
Speaker 3: author of the best selling book Journey of Souls, on
Speaker 3: my list to interview, but he took his transition to
Speaker 3: the spirit world before I could talk with him, and
Speaker 3: he passed September twenty second, twenty sixteen. I've been lucky
Speaker 3: enough to find an old audio of him describing his
Speaker 3: book and his work, and with the help of some
Speaker 3: clever editing on my part, this episode may just sound
Speaker 3: like an interview. Doctor Michael Newton held a doctorate in
Speaker 3: counseling psychology, was a certified Master hypnoi therapist and a
Speaker 3: member of the American Counseling Association. Over many years, doctor
Speaker 3: Newton developed his own intensive age regression technique in order
Speaker 3: to effectively take hypnosis subjects beyond their past life memories
Speaker 3: to a more meaningful soul experience between lives. He is
Speaker 3: considered to be the pioneer in uncovering the mysteries about
Speaker 3: life after death through the use of hypnotic regression. He
Speaker 3: has trained many hypnotherapists in his techniques, and you can
Speaker 3: even get your own regression today. Doctor Newton is the
Speaker 3: author of three best selling books Journey of Souls, Destiny
Speaker 3: of Souls, and Life Between Lives Hypnotherapy for spiritual Regression.
Speaker 3: His first book, Journey of Souls, is the record of
Speaker 3: twenty nine people who recalled their experienceperiences between physical deaths.
Speaker 3: Now over seven hundred thousand copies of the book have
Speaker 3: been sold in English alone, as well as being translated
Speaker 3: into many languages. It's been on the bestseller list for
Speaker 3: over twenty five years. You can find out more and
Speaker 3: even find a life between life facilitator around the world
Speaker 3: at Newtoninstitute dot org. And one reminder for you, dear listener.
Speaker 3: You and I may not agree with all the views
Speaker 3: and opinions of this guest or any other guests that
Speaker 3: I have on, but I do believe there are powerful
Speaker 3: things in each and every episode, things that we can learn,
Speaker 3: things that we can use for our life. So I
Speaker 3: kindly ask if there are things mentioned in this episode
Speaker 3: that empower you to live a good life, now take them. Also,
Speaker 3: if there are things said that aren't a match for
Speaker 3: your belief system, don't take them. It's as simple as that. Now,
Speaker 3: let's hear some words from the late doctor Michael Newton
Speaker 3: about his journey into researching life between lives.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm a traditional therapist. Initially, I worked not in
Speaker 1: past life regression or in any of the things that
Speaker 1: I do today. Primarily I was working in behavior modification
Speaker 1: and working with people who had problems with sleeping and
Speaker 1: with depression, this sort of thing. In time, people would
Speaker 1: come to me and ask, well, since you are working
Speaker 1: in hypnosis, is it possible that you could take me
Speaker 1: into a past life? And I was very imperious in
Speaker 1: those days. I said, no, I don't do those kinds
Speaker 1: of things. I'm terribly sorry, but I'm very traditional in
Speaker 1: my academic orientation, and you would have to go to
Speaker 1: somebody else for that kind of thing. So what happened
Speaker 1: to me was that after a number of years passed,
Speaker 1: I had a client who came complaining of a pain
Speaker 1: in his side. He told me that he'd been to
Speaker 1: many medical doctors, had X rays and was told that
Speaker 1: it was all psychosomitic, it was in his mind and
Speaker 1: that if he just forgot about it would go away.
Speaker 1: But it was causing him intense pain, he wasn't sleeping well,
Speaker 1: and so forth, he asked me if I could possibly
Speaker 1: find any root causes for this in his childhood, if
Speaker 1: I could regress him to his childhood. So I did this,
Speaker 1: and we searched, and I looked through many of the
Speaker 1: early aspects of his childhood, and I could find him
Speaker 1: not falling on a sharp object or being involved with
Speaker 1: knives in any way or anything it would cause this
Speaker 1: very sharp pain in his side. Finally, in frustration, I
Speaker 1: said to this individual, who by the way, went very deep,
Speaker 1: very quickly in hypnosis, which is an important part of
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because that, to me is a key
Speaker 1: in reaching into the past life work that I now
Speaker 1: do on my inter life work, I said, go to
Speaker 1: the source of your pain. Tell me the first time
Speaker 1: it happened. And suddenly he was on the battlefield of
Speaker 1: France in World War One, in a British division at
Speaker 1: the Battle of the Somme, and was being bayman added,
Speaker 1: So while the poor fellow had suddenly regressed into a
Speaker 1: past life, almost getting ahead of me, and he's lying
Speaker 1: in the mud dying, I'm so skeptical because that's my nature,
Speaker 1: that I'm asking him to describe his division patch for
Speaker 1: me on his arm. What battle is this? I asked?
Speaker 1: Where are we? Who are you fighting? Because I'm not
Speaker 1: satisfied that this is really happening to me. So he
Speaker 1: described all these things very accurately, and since I am
Speaker 1: an amateur historian, I knew he was accurate. And so
Speaker 1: I realized that I'd had my first past life case.
Speaker 1: And I worked in desensitizing him, just as I would
Speaker 1: have done if he'd have been a six year old
Speaker 1: child who'd spared himself in the kitchen, for instance, while
Speaker 1: his mother wasn't there. So from that case, I realized
Speaker 1: that past life regression was very real. I was still
Speaker 1: somewhat skeptical. I did a lot more experimenting, of course,
Speaker 1: and working with people, and a lot more time passed,
Speaker 1: and then what happened to me was another case. Almost
Speaker 1: by accident, A lady came to me who complained of
Speaker 1: loneliness and isolation in society, and she felt that she
Speaker 1: was not really a part of this world. That she
Speaker 1: just felt so disoriented with the life that she was
Speaker 1: living and the people that were around her. She was
Speaker 1: thinking of suicide. And so again I worked with this
Speaker 1: lady as I had done with this man, but not
Speaker 1: in past life work. We talked about a lot of
Speaker 1: childhood issues. I put her in hypnosis. We worked a
Speaker 1: lot with her early life and so forth, and really
Speaker 1: didn't come up with anything. So, like with the man
Speaker 1: I just spoke about, I asked this lady, go to
Speaker 1: the source of your loneliness and lack of companionship. And
Speaker 1: again she was very somnambalistic. She went very deep, very quickly.
Speaker 1: She was a very good hypnosis subject. And she said,
Speaker 1: I see them all right now, my companions. They're here
Speaker 1: in front of me. And I thought, what are we
Speaker 1: talking about? Here? Are is this a breach group? Who
Speaker 1: are these people? And she's staring at my office wall
Speaker 1: with a glazed look, and her eyes are fluttering, and
Speaker 1: she's saying to me, no, no, no, these are my
Speaker 1: spiritual soulmates and they're eight of them, and she described
Speaker 1: who they are. And I couldn't believe this. There were
Speaker 1: just chills went up and down my spine that I had.
Speaker 1: Actually I was talking to someone who was talking about
Speaker 1: a life between lives, and this is an area of
Speaker 1: which I had no experience, and I'd read no books
Speaker 1: on There weren't many books even touching on the subject.
Speaker 1: So from that case, I began to really research the
Speaker 1: area between lives and I soon as my practice. As
Speaker 1: time went on, my practice I changed it to working
Speaker 1: basically with people who wanted to know about their immortality.
Speaker 1: People who now come to me who are interested in
Speaker 1: finding out who they really are, who their soulmates are,
Speaker 1: what their spirit group is like, why they are here
Speaker 1: on earth, and so forth. To me, these are the
Speaker 1: profound questions in life, and the psychological benefits that come
Speaker 1: from people knowing these points, these issues in their life
Speaker 1: empower them in a way that they had not had before.
Speaker 1: And so that's essentially how I came to work in
Speaker 1: the area that I do today.
Speaker 3: How is past life therapy viewed by the mainstream.
Speaker 1: You've got two types of people, those that understand hypnosis
Speaker 1: and the power of hypnosis and realize that it's for real.
Speaker 1: The AMAI might add, has accepted hypnosis as a medical
Speaker 1: tool since nineteen fifty eight, which is rather late considering
Speaker 1: how long it's been around. But the point I want
Speaker 1: to make is that people do not hallucinate in hypnosis.
Speaker 1: The conscious mind is not unconscious. It's very aware of
Speaker 1: what is going on around at all times around the subject.
Speaker 1: It is not as if you were in bed asleep
Speaker 1: at night in a deep delta state. You are in
Speaker 1: what we call an alpha or theta state, so your
Speaker 1: conscious mind is able to work and help with information
Speaker 1: that we're deriving from your subconscious and so hypnosis really,
Speaker 1: in terms of whether you want to believe in hypnosis
Speaker 1: or not, depends on your willingness to accept self reports
Speaker 1: as data. And essentially, it's not like physics where we
Speaker 1: have formulas. In terms of scientific proof, one could argue
Speaker 1: that's not possible. All I can tell you is that
Speaker 1: I was a skeptic at first about the whole process
Speaker 1: of past life progression and working in the life between lives,
Speaker 1: and what convinced me that it was real and that
Speaker 1: my patients were telling me everything that had actually happened
Speaker 1: to them in the past was their consistency of their reports.
Speaker 1: It didn't matter whether someone came to me who was
Speaker 1: deeply religious or an atheist, or any philosophical persuasion in between.
Speaker 1: Once I had them in deep hypnosis, they all told
Speaker 1: me the same thing about the spirit world and about
Speaker 1: their life between lives.
Speaker 3: What happens when we die.
Speaker 1: At the moment of death, you rise above your body
Speaker 1: and you look back at it. Now, there have been
Speaker 1: a lot of near death experience. Reports have been books
Speaker 1: written about near death experiences, and certainly people who have
Speaker 1: gone through this have appeared on television and radio and
Speaker 1: have described to the public in many forms how they
Speaker 1: felt and what they experienced. But you have to keep
Speaker 1: in mind that in a near death experience, we're talking
Speaker 1: about someone who's clinically dead only for a few minutes,
Speaker 1: so they wouldn't be around to tell what they experienced.
Speaker 1: In my case, I have a client in hypnosis for
Speaker 1: some three hours questioning them about these things. They're also
Speaker 1: in a relaxed state. They're not undergoing any body trauma,
Speaker 1: so they're able to tell me in a very clear
Speaker 1: and forthright way everything that happened to them. Now, let
Speaker 1: me explain that there are two types of souls. There
Speaker 1: are the more advanced type and they're the beginner type souls,
Speaker 1: or really a few more types, but I'll just talk
Speaker 1: about these essentially. The beginner soul, that is, the person
Speaker 1: who has not lived all that many lives sometimes has
Speaker 1: difficulties separating from their body, and not that they're not
Speaker 1: released at the moment of death, but they hang around.
Speaker 1: They want to go to their funerals, and we're so vain.
Speaker 1: You know, these people will describe how they want to
Speaker 1: find out who's coming to their funeral, who's bringing flowers,
Speaker 1: how much respect is their body being shown being cremated
Speaker 1: or being put into the ground, or what have you.
Speaker 1: So you have that type of soul who's not really
Speaker 1: ready to leave Earth's astrol plane immediately because they're a
Speaker 1: little disoriented, and also they're reluctant to leave this life
Speaker 1: in which they've had so much enjoyment.
Speaker 3: We are approaching time for our first break, so I
Speaker 3: think this will be a good opportunity to take it.
Speaker 3: When we get back from the break, doctor Newton will
Speaker 3: explain the advance kind of soul and what it is
Speaker 3: to die and go to that life between lives.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back.
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Speaker 3: Welcome back, to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sanders Champlaine
Speaker 3: and we're having a virtual discussion with doctor Michael Newton,
Speaker 3: who passed back in twenty sixteen. He's the author of
Speaker 3: the book Journey of Souls, and right now he's talking
Speaker 3: about his life between life, hypnosis therapy and what it
Speaker 3: is like to die.
Speaker 1: Let me explain that there are two types of souls.
Speaker 1: There are the more advanced type and they're the beginner
Speaker 1: type souls, or really a few more types, but I'll
Speaker 1: just talk about these essentially, the beginner soul, that is,
Speaker 1: the person who has not lived all that many lives
Speaker 1: sometimes has difficulties separating from their body, and not that
Speaker 1: they're not released at the moment of death, but they
Speaker 1: hang around. They want to go to their funerals, and
Speaker 1: we're so vain, you know, these people will describe how
Speaker 1: they want to find out who's coming to their funeral,
Speaker 1: who's bringing flowers, how much respect is their body being
Speaker 1: shown being cremated or being put into the ground, or
Speaker 1: what have you. So you have that type of soul
Speaker 1: who's not really ready to leave Earth's astral plane immediately
Speaker 1: because they're a little disoriented, and also they're reluctant to
Speaker 1: leave this light in which they've had so much enjoyment.
Speaker 1: Then that you have the second major type, which are
Speaker 1: those souls who've been around a long time and they're
Speaker 1: very experienced. They usually leave very quickly, and so both
Speaker 1: types when they look back at their bodies, I want
Speaker 1: to tell you that there is something that's uppermost on
Speaker 1: their mind, and that is to comfort the loved ones
Speaker 1: that are left behind. All souls will try to reach
Speaker 1: out and comfort those who are mourning their deaths. They
Speaker 1: will try to reach into their minds and soothe them
Speaker 1: in various ways and give them, through thought, powerful thought messages,
Speaker 1: the understanding that they're still alive. Sometimes it's hard, because,
Speaker 1: of course, when we're undergoing this kind of grief, you
Speaker 1: can imagine that we're so overcome with grief that we
Speaker 1: might shut down in terms of these messages. So these
Speaker 1: souls might not be able to reach their loved ones
Speaker 1: for perhaps days or weeks or months later, But that
Speaker 1: is the intent to make them feel comfortable. Then as
Speaker 1: they pull away, souls describe bright lights and tunnels the
Speaker 1: same as the folks that tell us who have had
Speaker 1: near death experiences that they have seen now let me
Speaker 1: explain something I think is really important. We've heard a
Speaker 1: lot about people seeing religious figures who have undergone near
Speaker 1: death experience. I find no case in all of the
Speaker 1: cases that I've had over all of the years that
Speaker 1: I've been working with people through their death experiences, who
Speaker 1: have ever seen a religious figure. What they see are
Speaker 1: their spiritual guides. These are those loving beings who are
Speaker 1: their teachers who come to them at the moment of
Speaker 1: death to guide them into the spirit world. Now, I'd
Speaker 1: like to also say that you may also see people
Speaker 1: who of you have known in this life, who have
Speaker 1: passed on ahead of you, who will also come and
Speaker 1: welcome you back. And this too is a very wonderful experience.
Speaker 1: For instance, people will see their mothers, for example, or
Speaker 1: a best friend who may have died in front of them,
Speaker 1: or a brother or sister, this sort of thing, and
Speaker 1: it's a very ennobling and beautiful experience for them.
Speaker 3: What is it like when we see our loved ones?
Speaker 1: When a person who has just died sees their spirit
Speaker 1: guide or friends and relatives who they have known before soulmates,
Speaker 1: they usually see a projection of a face that is
Speaker 1: familiar to them. They may take the face of people
Speaker 1: that they have been in the life that is familiar
Speaker 1: to the person who has just died, or a face
Speaker 1: that they put particularly like that that person who has
Speaker 1: just died knows how to identify them from. And so
Speaker 1: you have a number of different faces. People will describe
Speaker 1: them as looking like ghosts as they come towards us,
Speaker 1: and maybe this is where some of our mythology about
Speaker 1: ghosts comes from. Oftentimes they don't see anything below the waist. Essentially,
Speaker 1: they see a light form coming misty, if you will,
Speaker 1: a pinpoint of light in the beginning, and then a
Speaker 1: misty shape, a ghost like shape, and then when they
Speaker 1: get close they can make out features that are projected
Speaker 1: to them by the being that is coming towards them
Speaker 1: for recognition.
Speaker 3: Doctor Newton, is there a hell?
Speaker 1: No one that I have ever put in hypnosis has
Speaker 1: ever seen any demonic figures or a hell of any kind.
Speaker 1: We have heard this from some people who have had
Speaker 1: near death experiences, not many, a few. My feeling of
Speaker 1: that is that those folks who claim that they could
Speaker 1: hear screaming deomans dragging them before a tribunal of some
Speaker 1: kind for a judgment, and so forth, and all these
Speaker 1: things that are very religious in overtones in terms of
Speaker 1: fostering fear, are simply not in the minds of my clients.
Speaker 1: When someone with a near death experience says that they
Speaker 1: thought that's what they experience, my feeling is that their
Speaker 1: conscious mind is coming into this in terms of preconditioning.
Speaker 1: Because remember, these people are not in hypnosis. They've just
Speaker 1: been hit by a car, or they're on an operating
Speaker 1: table bleeding to death. There's all sorts of things going
Speaker 1: on in their physical bodies in the case of trauma,
Speaker 1: and so what has happened here, in my view, is
Speaker 1: that their conscious mind is on overload, and all of
Speaker 1: those fears and anxieties that they have had in their
Speaker 1: walking around state about life after death is coming back
Speaker 1: to haunt them. They are not describing what really exists
Speaker 1: in terms of being taken in front of demons and
Speaker 1: being punished and so forth. Their bright lights and tunnels
Speaker 1: are real. When they start getting into a lot of
Speaker 1: the things that concern them in terms of their conscious fears,
Speaker 1: I suspect preconditioning. My clients tell me that the spirit
Speaker 1: world is a place of love, forgiveness, and kindness that
Speaker 1: regardless of what they have done on earth in terms
Speaker 1: of wrongdoing. If we could use evil and wrongdoing here
Speaker 1: as perhaps the reasons why someone might be sent into
Speaker 1: an area that maybe looks like hell, this just doesn't happen.
Speaker 1: According to my clients. They are taken, in fact, to
Speaker 1: an area of isolation where they are given orientation sessions
Speaker 1: in terms of what it is that they did and
Speaker 1: why they did it. There's some energy reshaping going on.
Speaker 1: I explain in the book Journey of Souls about this process.
Speaker 1: And I just would like to say that these people
Speaker 1: generally who have committed evil will probably of their own volition,
Speaker 1: come back as victims. In their next lives. They will
Speaker 1: volunteer for those assignments. So no, the spirit world is
Speaker 1: not a place of terror and fear.
Speaker 3: A tribunal is a group of people appointed by a
Speaker 3: court to judge someone on a matter. Is there a
Speaker 3: tribunal or judgment in the afterlife?
Speaker 1: Let me describe to you where I think some people
Speaker 1: get an idea of a tribunal, and this might be
Speaker 1: filtering down through their subconscious mind. We do go before
Speaker 1: our council of what I call elders, wise beings. They've
Speaker 1: been called the old ones, the sacred ones. There's lots
Speaker 1: of different names. These are very advanced beings who review
Speaker 1: the life just live. Our guides do this. Our guides
Speaker 1: do this when we first cross over. They talk to
Speaker 1: us in the privacy of a very quiet setting, and
Speaker 1: so we can unwind and get re energized, and then
Speaker 1: we usually go into our home, if you will, our
Speaker 1: place in the spirit world where we belong. But what
Speaker 1: I'd like to tell you now is the tribunals concept.
Speaker 1: I hear a lot about people worried that they might
Speaker 1: be hauled in front of demonic judges and made to
Speaker 1: account for all their sins. These wise beings our more
Speaker 1: advanced teachers. They rank, if you will, even above our
Speaker 1: guides in terms of knowledge, understanding, and experience. What generally
Speaker 1: I find happens is that our guides accompany us to
Speaker 1: a very quiet, serene area where these beings will talk
Speaker 1: to us. Now, I'd like to point out that I
Speaker 1: have had clients who have had only three of these
Speaker 1: elders in front of them, and some as many as
Speaker 1: ten or twelve. Really depends on the individual, what spirit
Speaker 1: group they're located in terms of how advanced they are
Speaker 1: and so forth. These beings will question them in a
Speaker 1: very gentle way about how you, as the person who
Speaker 1: has just died, conducted your last life and how you
Speaker 1: feel about how well you did or where you had
Speaker 1: failings and where there were shortcomings, and they would also
Speaker 1: like to talk to you about your successes. So it's
Speaker 1: a very gentle process and it's one that everyone experiences
Speaker 1: between lives after every life, and sometimes people will go
Speaker 1: before them again before their next life in order to
Speaker 1: review the life to come. But essentially what they are
Speaker 1: are very wise, understanding beings who will really review with
Speaker 1: us where we made our mistakes and how we can
Speaker 1: do better in our next life.
Speaker 3: Are there really young and old souls?
Speaker 1: This idea of very old souls and very young souls
Speaker 1: can be confusing, And let me explain why. You might
Speaker 1: be an old soul in the sense that you've been
Speaker 1: around since the Stone Age, but you might not have
Speaker 1: learned your lessons very well or very quickly, so you
Speaker 1: might be maybe going from a beginner to an intermediate
Speaker 1: as opposed to a more advanced soul, simply because you
Speaker 1: need more time and more lives to do the work
Speaker 1: that you need to do. I've had other people who
Speaker 1: have had souls that have progressed very rapidly. I had
Speaker 1: one lady who, in four thousand years of incarnations on Earth,
Speaker 1: which is not a long time, move from the beginner
Speaker 1: level up to almost intermediate, which is very very fast.
Speaker 1: The reason that I can tell this is by the
Speaker 1: auras they project in the spirit world, and these usually
Speaker 1: these colors have really no relation to the auras that
Speaker 1: people who have that ability on Earth can see around us,
Speaker 1: and from the colors of their energy, I can determine
Speaker 1: the advancement of the soul. This took a long long
Speaker 1: time to discover this and all the other things that
Speaker 1: we're talking about today. I had to piece together this puzzle.
Speaker 1: It did not all come to me in a rush.
Speaker 1: For that lady I spoke about earlier, who is my
Speaker 1: first case in life between lives, I had to work
Speaker 1: very hard because people don't volunteer information. In order to
Speaker 1: get the information that I have written about, it took many,
Speaker 1: many years. I just like to say too that I
Speaker 1: tried to keep my work unbiased. And when I talked
Speaker 1: to you about people like guy and the counsel and
Speaker 1: so forth, I ask people, what do you see? Not
Speaker 1: do you see? So and so so that regardless of
Speaker 1: how many cases have gone before the client I'm working
Speaker 1: with now the material seems fresh to them. I ask
Speaker 1: open ended questions so that they will come to me
Speaker 1: with the answers that they're going to frame in their
Speaker 1: own minds. And one of them is, as I said,
Speaker 1: that's a very important one. Is what we've just talked about,
Speaker 1: is their counsel, because they really do want to talk
Speaker 1: to me about these beings and what they mean to them.
Speaker 3: What is the ultimate goal of our souls? And is
Speaker 3: there a God.
Speaker 1: I came into this as an atheist. I did not
Speaker 1: believe in God. I did not believe that there was
Speaker 1: anything after life but ultimately oblivion. My clients kind of
Speaker 1: brought me to this kicking and screaming. After years of
Speaker 1: work with them and the consistency of the reports and
Speaker 1: knowing what I do about hypnosis and doing the work
Speaker 1: and research myself today where I can say that I
Speaker 1: believe in a power greater than myself, a source for
Speaker 1: all life and all intelligence. So the concept of all
Speaker 1: this incarnation is to arrive at that state of perfection
Speaker 1: where we can rejoin that source from once we came.
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Speaker 3: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain
Speaker 3: and we're listening to words from the late doctor Michael Newton,
Speaker 3: who really was cutting edge in this life between Lives therapy.
Speaker 3: I didn't want to step over this, but at the
Speaker 3: end of the last segment he makes a statement, I
Speaker 3: can say that I believe in a power greater than
Speaker 3: myself and a source for all life and all in intelligence.
Speaker 3: So the concept of this incarnation is to arrive at
Speaker 3: that state of perfection where we can rejoin that source
Speaker 3: from once we came. Personally, I take that as creating
Speaker 3: heaven on earth, not so much outside of ourselves, but
Speaker 3: how we can live our lives powerfully now looking at
Speaker 3: the big picture, looking at others that their souls, having
Speaker 3: a human experience, looking at things through the eyes of
Speaker 3: love and grace, being forgiving, and perhaps knowing that we
Speaker 3: are divine beings, co creating with the God source. Next,
Speaker 3: let's hear some words from him about ghosts. Also. He
Speaker 3: doesn't go into this fully in this episode, but doctor
Speaker 3: Newton believes that a part of us remains in the
Speaker 3: spirit world and part of us comes to earth and
Speaker 3: keeps reincarnate. In this I find very comforting because, as
Speaker 3: you know, we all want to meet up with our
Speaker 3: loved ones again when we pass. So doctor Newton feels
Speaker 3: we remain in the spirit world or in the afterlife,
Speaker 3: and part of us comes back to Earth and reincarnates.
Speaker 1: People can get misconceptions from ghosts, and it's my feeling
Speaker 1: that there are beings who have not left the astroplane
Speaker 1: yet because they're not ready to. They're very dissatisfied with things.
Speaker 1: Maybe they were murdered, they want to find vengeance, and
Speaker 1: so forth. They're not forced into the spirit world. Usually
Speaker 1: they're taken by the hand when they're ready and taken
Speaker 1: into the spirit world. I might also say that there's
Speaker 1: another element of this that's unique to my own work.
Speaker 1: In terms of ghosts, I believe in the duality of soul.
Speaker 1: Souls have the ability to live parallel lives, to divide
Speaker 1: their energy. A part of their energy always stays behind
Speaker 1: in the spirit world. So you could have a ghost
Speaker 1: with an energy particle who is still on Earth, have
Speaker 1: the same holographic image, if you will, of that soul's
Speaker 1: ego in the spirit world at the same time. So
Speaker 1: we never stop learning and we never actually are totally
Speaker 1: disconnected from the spirit world.
Speaker 3: What are soul groups?
Speaker 1: Soul groups are one of the most interesting aspects of
Speaker 1: my work. The reason for this is that people who
Speaker 1: I take into their soul group are able to tell
Speaker 1: me their level of advancement based on how the others
Speaker 1: are doing in their group as well as themselves. This
Speaker 1: gives me a much broader perspective as to where this
Speaker 1: individual is in terms of development. There are in every
Speaker 1: soul group a variety of personalities. You have courageous souls,
Speaker 1: you have meek souls, you have passive souls. You have
Speaker 1: souls who are very unselfish, those that are a bit
Speaker 1: more self centered. You have souls that are quiet and contemplative,
Speaker 1: and those that are jokesters. So from the information, I'm
Speaker 1: able to determine psychologically a lot about the type of
Speaker 1: group that my client comes from and what I might
Speaker 1: be able to do to help them in terms of
Speaker 1: their life lessons and purpose. But it's fascinating too from
Speaker 1: another standpoint, because we don't all progress in the same
Speaker 1: at the same speed, in the same way, in the
Speaker 1: same areas. I like to point out that I had
Speaker 1: one man that took him between four and five thousand
Speaker 1: years to conquer jealousy. He is not a jealous person
Speaker 1: in this life. He's intolerant as hell, and that's what
Speaker 1: he's working on now. But he's not jealous, and so
Speaker 1: that was his particular difficult hurdle to get over, and
Speaker 1: yet there are people in his soul group that were
Speaker 1: always very tolerant and they have tried to help him
Speaker 1: between lives. So this is what I mean about rates
Speaker 1: of progression. And yet I find that the whole soul
Speaker 1: group pretty generally belongs in a certain niche as far
Speaker 1: as development, and they're all going to move forward together,
Speaker 1: some a little faster than others, others will be a
Speaker 1: little lower, but essentially they're all at about the same level.
Speaker 3: Is the purpose of life all about learning?
Speaker 1: Essentially? In the beginning of our many, many existences, It's
Speaker 1: about learning lessons, It's about improving understanding where we are
Speaker 1: in terms of our development and where we need to go.
Speaker 1: And the reason that that's such an important question is
Speaker 1: that many, many people that I work with incarnate on
Speaker 1: other worlds and are in other dimensions besides Earth. Earth
Speaker 1: has a particular difficulty in that we have amnesia. Our
Speaker 1: human minds set up an amnesia block when we come
Speaker 1: into this world, so that we in fact don't have
Speaker 1: any knowledge that we can recall readily about the spirit
Speaker 1: world or our spirit guides. Interestingly enough, it's not so
Speaker 1: true with young young children. You see a little boy
Speaker 1: or girl playing in a sandbox one years old, two
Speaker 1: years old, and they're having these imaginary playmates, which may
Speaker 1: not be so imaginative. But by the time they're in
Speaker 1: the first grade in school, we've pretty much knocked all
Speaker 1: that out of them, and so that amnesia block is
Speaker 1: pretty much set, and so they don't remember themselves as spirits,
Speaker 1: and they don't remember their friends in the spirit world
Speaker 1: as spirits. But what's interesting is that it is a planet.
Speaker 1: Earth is of self discovery. The idea is that by
Speaker 1: not knowing the answers to the test questions before you
Speaker 1: come in, you solve these problems yourself, in your own
Speaker 1: way and your own time, and in your own environment
Speaker 1: and in your own body. Not to say that we
Speaker 1: don't have genetic problems, there are those who select bodies
Speaker 1: who do have problems with aggressive behavior. Maybe they have
Speaker 1: a chemical imbalance that causes other behavioral problems that they
Speaker 1: need to overcome in order to achieve the lessons for
Speaker 1: which they came through to accomplish on Earth. And I'd
Speaker 1: like to point out that it's by design everyone in
Speaker 1: everybody has select to that body they knew in advance
Speaker 1: what the body was going to be like to a
Speaker 1: certain extent, and they chose that body with the help
Speaker 1: of their guides in order to achieve certain lessons. But
Speaker 1: these same folks can also incarnate on other planets where
Speaker 1: there is no amnesia. There are all different ways in
Speaker 1: which we can progress and learn and understand about who
Speaker 1: we really are and the power of our energy. Earth
Speaker 1: is only one school.
Speaker 3: Can the spirit world be fun?
Speaker 1: This is one of the most jovial parts, if I
Speaker 1: could call it that, of my work. Some people think
Speaker 1: that I spend a little too much time with us
Speaker 1: and make too light of it. I believe that it's
Speaker 1: important that everybody know that the spirit world is a
Speaker 1: place of humor and fun. It is not all business.
Speaker 1: It is not all the kinds of things I describe
Speaker 1: in some of my chapters about energy work, creation work,
Speaker 1: learning to cope with our lessons in classroom type situations.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of that. But we also have R
Speaker 1: and R restaurant recreation, and I've had many clients tell
Speaker 1: me about playing games. Some of the games I hear
Speaker 1: are like red Rover, where sides will line up opposite
Speaker 1: each other and come crashing together as balls of energy
Speaker 1: in order to unite and blend their intelligent energy, and
Speaker 1: it's kind of like playing bumper cars. Others will talk
Speaker 1: about a dodgeball game where they will throw bolts of
Speaker 1: energy at each other, or playing tag these kinds of things.
Speaker 1: And there's a lot more esoteric type games where they
Speaker 1: can go to other worlds where there is no human life,
Speaker 1: for example, and frolic if you will on that world
Speaker 1: as spirits who are not there turn to learn lessons,
Speaker 1: but to simply have fun with each other, and they play.
Speaker 1: So once in a while, when I give a speech
Speaker 1: about the fact that there is a lot of humor
Speaker 1: and play in the spirit world people, some people get
Speaker 1: a little upset because they think it all should be very,
Speaker 1: very serious, and I find that that's just not true.
Speaker 3: Could you talk about our dreams?
Speaker 1: When we dream? Generally, my way of describing dreams is
Speaker 1: in three categories. We can cleanse our minds at the
Speaker 1: end of every day. It's kind of a cleaning house
Speaker 1: where we vent a lot of the things that have
Speaker 1: gone on, and a lot of it is like everything
Speaker 1: short circuited up there. We've all had dreams which seem
Speaker 1: like just utter nonsense. If we wake up in the
Speaker 1: morning and wonder what they were all about, or if
Speaker 1: we wake up in the middle of the night and
Speaker 1: they've just happened and we don't make any sense of them.
Speaker 1: We also have those dreams, which are problem solving dreams.
Speaker 1: We go to bed with a specific problem, and somehow
Speaker 1: in the morning we wake up and our answer is
Speaker 1: beginning to formulate. So that's a very cortextual type of
Speaker 1: dream where we're really analyzing a problem and it's our
Speaker 1: sleep state is helping us resolve that. Then we have
Speaker 1: what I call spiritual dreams, the dreams in terms of
Speaker 1: flying dreams or water dreams, where in fact we are
Speaker 1: creatures that we don't understand in a conscious state, but
Speaker 1: we're reliving earlier experiences. I might also mention that the
Speaker 1: problem solving and the spiritual dreams can overlap. Up we
Speaker 1: may receive help from a guide in the middle of
Speaker 1: the night to some major problem that we just can't
Speaker 1: seem to solve during the day, and our minds are
Speaker 1: not open to receiving information from our guides. Maybe we're
Speaker 1: not people who meditate, so the only way they really
Speaker 1: have of reaching us is when we're in a subconscious
Speaker 1: state at night, and so dreams can take many different forms.
Speaker 3: Are there different levels of souls?
Speaker 1: I find the different levels of souls are generally on
Speaker 1: three different levels, although I can keep this simple and
Speaker 1: just say beginner in advance. In my book, I describe
Speaker 1: them as beginner, intermediate, and advance, and there are a
Speaker 1: couple of grades in between that, but that is a
Speaker 1: general category. I think that the thing that differentiates the
Speaker 1: beginner from the intermediate is essentially by the time you
Speaker 1: reach intermediate level, you're beginning your teacher training. You're given
Speaker 1: more responsibility. You've had a lot of lives that have
Speaker 1: been very difficult, and you've been very successful in your
Speaker 1: life in handling them. One of the primary things that
Speaker 1: our guides and teachers look at is how we have
Speaker 1: treated others in our life. What have we done for
Speaker 1: others as opposed to ourselves. And if we find people
Speaker 1: who are really quite unselfish in giving people, we know
Speaker 1: that probably they're moving into the intermediate level. And from
Speaker 1: the intermediate level to the advanced level. Is the difference
Speaker 1: between a soul being at the beginning stage of teaching
Speaker 1: to one that is a more advanced teacher and those
Speaker 1: souls that are more advanced are into work that is very,
Speaker 1: very demanding. Many of them will have a number of
Speaker 1: people with whom they are teaching, who are on Earth
Speaker 1: and on other planets. And it is also their responsibility
Speaker 1: in the spirit world too, if you will run spirit
Speaker 1: groups as teachers and to conduct lessons and to work
Speaker 1: with individual souls on their own problems. So there's quite
Speaker 1: a difference between a beginner and an advanced soul.
Speaker 3: Well, I can tell you right now that you are
Speaker 3: not a beginner soul, and neither am I. We are
Speaker 3: people looking for the bigger picture, aren't we. So where
Speaker 3: are we on the scale?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I say we are old souls. When we get back
Speaker 3: from the break, more concepts we're going to hear from
Speaker 3: doctor Newton. He'll talk about future lives, the concept of time,
Speaker 3: the death experience and the process of reincarnating, and soulmates.
Speaker 3: Let's take our break and we'll be back. You are
Speaker 3: listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and
Speaker 3: Coast to Coast am Paranormal podcast network.
Speaker 1: Stay there, Sandra will be right back.
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Speaker 3: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain
Speaker 3: and you're listening to words from the late doctor Michael Newton,
Speaker 3: author of several books, including his groundbreaking Journey of Souls.
Speaker 3: If you wish to get your own life between life regression,
Speaker 3: you can go to Newton Institute dot org and find
Speaker 3: his list of global practitioners. We're going to continue on
Speaker 3: with his words, what it's like to die.
Speaker 1: My clients describe death as something it is very, very
Speaker 1: beautiful for them. The trauma that has just gone before
Speaker 1: is pretty much wiped out. At the moment of death,
Speaker 1: they rise out of their bodies. They realize that they're
Speaker 1: an immortal being. Oh my god, I'm not dead is
Speaker 1: a statement I hear quite often. And they look back
Speaker 1: at their bodies, and of course all of their memories,
Speaker 1: of all of who they are as souls, and all
Speaker 1: their past lives come crashing in and they realize that
Speaker 1: this life they have just lived is transitory. Not that
Speaker 1: they can't feel sadness for the husband and wife who
Speaker 1: is at their bedside, for example, or a child, But
Speaker 1: souls don't feel sadness the same way human beings do.
Speaker 1: Because they're immortal beings. They understand that they will soon
Speaker 1: be joined by these folks they've left behind. And I
Speaker 1: can tell you this that most people feel two things.
Speaker 1: They feel freedom, and they feel joy at the moment
Speaker 1: of death.
Speaker 3: Freedom and joy at the time of death. That works
Speaker 3: for me. Next, he'll talk about future lives and the
Speaker 3: concept of time.
Speaker 1: Future lives is an area that I do get into occasionally.
Speaker 1: Some of my colleagues enjoy working a lot with progression
Speaker 1: there is that's the difference. It's progression instead of regression.
Speaker 1: And I've heard some interesting I mean, I've had people
Speaker 1: who have been on starships because they're seeing into the future.
Speaker 1: A lot of times, though I don't like working in
Speaker 1: the future, even when a client is able to talk
Speaker 1: to me a little about it, because of the fact
Speaker 1: that I think from a karmic lesson standpoint, it's better
Speaker 1: that they not know what's coming up. I feel again,
Speaker 1: a lot of importance really comes by our discovering and
Speaker 1: problem solving when the issue is right in front of us.
Speaker 1: So I'm a little hesitant to spend too much time
Speaker 1: with that, although I've had many clients who've talked to me,
Speaker 1: for instance, about the twenty first twenty second century, how
Speaker 1: overcrowded the next century is going to be on Earth,
Speaker 1: and how there's going to be a lot of air pollution,
Speaker 1: and how it's not going to be real easy living
Speaker 1: around here. In fact, it's made my wife and I
Speaker 1: come to the conclusion I think we'll wait a century
Speaker 1: before we reincarnate together again. But I must tell you too,
Speaker 1: that the fact of time often comes into this. People
Speaker 1: who ask me questions about whether it's possible to see
Speaker 1: into the future are suddenly confronted by this business of time,
Speaker 1: the past, president future all being capitalized into one action,
Speaker 1: and this is confusing for them. It doesn't bother them
Speaker 1: so much. We talk about past lives and our current life,
Speaker 1: but when we get into the future, they begin to
Speaker 1: see that in fact, all time is. There's not an
Speaker 1: absolute to time. It's not a chronology like it is
Speaker 1: on earth. But in fact, when we are in the
Speaker 1: spirit world, we're able to see into the future as
Speaker 1: well as the past. If we were not able to
Speaker 1: do this, we would not be able to select our
Speaker 1: bodies and to know a little bit about what's going
Speaker 1: to happen to us, so that we, in fact can
Speaker 1: make the determination that this body is going to be
Speaker 1: right for us. So, as of necessity, people have to
Speaker 1: come to this philosophic concept that in fact, past, present,
Speaker 1: and future is all relative. There's been a lot of
Speaker 1: work done in recent years by people who are very
Speaker 1: scientifically oriented on this. A whole new field of quantum mechanics,
Speaker 1: where they believe that everything is electromagnetic light energy, and
Speaker 1: that time is essential emotion and not chronology has come
Speaker 1: into play where people have had I think a greater
Speaker 1: understanding is quite possible that there is no real relevance
Speaker 1: to past president in future. As far as chronology on Earth,
Speaker 1: it's difficult for us to accept this because we see
Speaker 1: the sun come up in the morning, go down at night.
Speaker 1: There's night and day, we age, we see everything changing
Speaker 1: around us. So for us it's chronology. Time is very
Speaker 1: important as an absolute, but it's not true in the
Speaker 1: spirit world.
Speaker 3: What are soulmates?
Speaker 1: Dolemates can be confusing to people, of course, in the
Speaker 1: spirit world. I find, and I think I've explained this,
Speaker 1: that in a soul group, we have many soulmates. Our
Speaker 1: soul groups may be made up of four or five
Speaker 1: different people, or twenty five or thirty, depending on how
Speaker 1: quickly we're moving through into the more advanced stages. It
Speaker 1: could be argued that if your husband or wife is
Speaker 1: your soulmate, but it could also be argued that your
Speaker 1: best friend in high school is your soulmate, or your
Speaker 1: business partner or whatever, and it may well be true
Speaker 1: that they are all soulmates and all come from your
Speaker 1: spirit group. For me, the most intensemate relationship is that
Speaker 1: being with whom we like to reincarnate in terms of
Speaker 1: a spouse, someone with whom we've been mate in many
Speaker 1: many lives, and we often have changed genders. We've been
Speaker 1: in the male in one life, and then a female
Speaker 1: and another. This is another measure of the advancement of
Speaker 1: the soul, because I find too that if souls incarnate
Speaker 1: mostly as males or mostly as females, they haven't yet
Speaker 1: reached that intermediate level where they can interchange with ease.
Speaker 1: Soulmates are a very very important aspect of our lives,
Speaker 1: and sometimes we learn our greatest lessons with our soulmates.
Speaker 3: Here's a quote by doctor Newton from his book Journey
Speaker 3: of Souls. When you look into a certain person's eyes
Speaker 3: on the ground, even people you have just met, and
Speaker 3: see a light you have known before, well that tells
Speaker 3: you something about them as a human. You don't know why,
Speaker 3: but your soul remembers. I can guess you've felt that too.
Speaker 3: You meet someone and you feel so at home with them,
Speaker 3: Could it be a soulmate? Next, Doctor Newton talks about
Speaker 3: what it's like to come back to Earth.
Speaker 1: When they decide, and their guides are also involved in
Speaker 1: this decision, that it's time to come forward and be
Speaker 1: reincarnated again. They go to a place where they can
Speaker 1: study the bodies that they're going to be given as choices. Now,
Speaker 1: I find this varies between clients. Some clients are given
Speaker 1: two or three choices, other clients are given basically one choice.
Speaker 1: But I have almost never found a client who has said,
Speaker 1: I don't like that choice. Their guides and masters know
Speaker 1: too much about them, too much about what needs to
Speaker 1: be done to make mistakes in this area. So I
Speaker 1: find most people are very joyful when they see the
Speaker 1: bodies that they're going to inhabit in their next life.
Speaker 1: They look almost as if they go into a television
Speaker 1: studio or a movie theater and see in stop action
Speaker 1: certain aspects of the life to come to see whether
Speaker 1: their soul will fit into the personality of the body
Speaker 1: that they're going to inhabit, and see how that will
Speaker 1: work in terms of their coming forward. Now, i'd like
Speaker 1: to say that it's an extremely important part of my
Speaker 1: work to understand how the soul mind of my client
Speaker 1: is interfacing with their earthly mind in the ego of
Speaker 1: the body of the brain in which they're now incarnating
Speaker 1: as a person in this particular life. Because, as I
Speaker 1: mentioned before, we have different soul egos that combine with
Speaker 1: different bodies, and it's true that in the womb when
Speaker 1: we're analyzing what this mind is like and how we
Speaker 1: might combine with it, there is a duality. Once we
Speaker 1: are born, that fusion has taken place. It is not
Speaker 1: as if the soul is an alien form. That baby
Speaker 1: recognizes this intelligent life and welcomes it. After all, if
Speaker 1: we were to take the soul out of say a
Speaker 1: human body, we would probably have raw emotions. There would
Speaker 1: be a survival instinct, we'd have aggression, we'd have passivity,
Speaker 1: all those things which are influential to a soul. But
Speaker 1: emotions are very peculiar to a body. A soul has
Speaker 1: to learn how to cope with that. So the soul
Speaker 1: brings to the body intuition, imagination, a concept of morality,
Speaker 1: these sorts of things. So this is very important when
Speaker 1: a soul is looking at that new body and deciding
Speaker 1: whether this body is going to really be right for them.
Speaker 1: So what happens with after this viewing period is over.
Speaker 1: Souls go back and say goodbye to their soulmates and
Speaker 1: their soul groups and their guides, and then they are
Speaker 1: brought forward into that new body in the womb of
Speaker 1: their mothers.
Speaker 3: I'd like to thank doctor Michael Newton and the whole
Speaker 3: staff of the Newton Institute for keeping this groundbreaking research
Speaker 3: alone live and well in the world. Whether or not
Speaker 3: one believes in life, between lives and reincarnation, we all
Speaker 3: know we have a very powerful subconscious mind. Life between
Speaker 3: lives therapy sessions empower the person living now, which is
Speaker 3: in truth, the whole reason we have shades of the
Speaker 3: afterlife to empower you now to live the best life possible.
Speaker 3: All these episodes are like if you go into a
Speaker 3: fancy department store and you're looking for an article of clothing.
Speaker 3: There might be a hundred different jackets on the rack,
Speaker 3: and you try each one on. Some will fit, some
Speaker 3: you'll return to the rack, some you'll take home with
Speaker 3: you same thing. With these different conversations about the afterlife,
Speaker 3: I personally do not think it's one size fits all
Speaker 3: for the dying experience and entering the afterlife. With so
Speaker 3: many different cultures on planet Earth, I do think our
Speaker 3: dying an afterlife experience may be different with lots of similarities.
Speaker 3: So take those that empower you and use them to
Speaker 3: live your best life possible. I'd like to share with
Speaker 3: you this quote by doctor Michael Newton and he's talking
Speaker 3: about our intuition. We should trust what we hear. Encourage
Speaker 3: your inner voice with quiet contemplation. When we ask for guidance,
Speaker 3: it's best not to demand immediate change, but instead request
Speaker 3: help with only the next step in your life. When
Speaker 3: you do this, be prepared for unexpected possibilities. Have the
Speaker 3: faith and humility to open yourself up to a variety
Speaker 3: of paths towards solutions. Variety, of course, being the spice
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