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Speaker 2: let's start with Chase of the Afterlife with Santra Channaplain.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and

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Speaker 3: and associates. We would like to encourage you to do

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Speaker 3: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. Hi.

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Speaker 3: I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been

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Speaker 3: on a journey to prove the existence of life after death.

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Speaker 3: On each episode, we'll discuss the reasons we now know

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Speaker 3: that our loved ones have survived physical debt, and so

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Speaker 3: will we. Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. I started

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Speaker 3: my first podcast, We Don't Die Radio, almost fourteen years ago,

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Speaker 3: and since then I've interviewed well over four hundred people

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Speaker 3: about their belief in the afterlife. I had doctor Michael Newton,

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Speaker 3: author of the best selling book Journey of Souls, on

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Speaker 3: my list to interview, but he took his transition to

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Speaker 3: the spirit world before I could talk with him, and

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Speaker 3: he passed September twenty second, twenty sixteen. I've been lucky

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Speaker 3: enough to find an old audio of him describing his

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Speaker 3: book and his work, and with the help of some

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Speaker 3: clever editing on my part, this episode may just sound

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Speaker 3: like an interview. Doctor Michael Newton held a doctorate in

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Speaker 3: counseling psychology, was a certified Master hypnoi therapist and a

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Speaker 3: member of the American Counseling Association. Over many years, doctor

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Speaker 3: Newton developed his own intensive age regression technique in order

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Speaker 3: to effectively take hypnosis subjects beyond their past life memories

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Speaker 3: to a more meaningful soul experience between lives. He is

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Speaker 3: considered to be the pioneer in uncovering the mysteries about

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Speaker 3: life after death through the use of hypnotic regression. He

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Speaker 3: has trained many hypnotherapists in his techniques, and you can

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Speaker 3: even get your own regression today. Doctor Newton is the

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Speaker 3: author of three best selling books Journey of Souls, Destiny

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Speaker 3: of Souls, and Life Between Lives Hypnotherapy for spiritual Regression.

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Speaker 3: His first book, Journey of Souls, is the record of

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Speaker 3: twenty nine people who recalled their experienceperiences between physical deaths.

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Speaker 3: Now over seven hundred thousand copies of the book have

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Speaker 3: been sold in English alone, as well as being translated

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Speaker 3: into many languages. It's been on the bestseller list for

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Speaker 3: over twenty five years. You can find out more and

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Speaker 3: even find a life between life facilitator around the world

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Speaker 3: at Newtoninstitute dot org. And one reminder for you, dear listener.

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Speaker 3: You and I may not agree with all the views

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Speaker 3: and opinions of this guest or any other guests that

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Speaker 3: I have on, but I do believe there are powerful

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Speaker 3: things in each and every episode, things that we can learn,

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Speaker 3: things that we can use for our life. So I

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Speaker 3: kindly ask if there are things mentioned in this episode

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Speaker 3: that empower you to live a good life, now take them. Also,

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Speaker 3: if there are things said that aren't a match for

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Speaker 3: your belief system, don't take them. It's as simple as that. Now,

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Speaker 3: Welcome back, to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sanders Champlaine

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Speaker 3: and we're having a virtual discussion with doctor Michael Newton,

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Speaker 3: who passed back in twenty sixteen. He's the author of

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Speaker 3: the book Journey of Souls, and right now he's talking

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Speaker 1: Let me explain that there are two types of souls.

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Speaker 1: For instance, people will see their mothers, for example, or

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Speaker 3: What is it like when we see our loved ones?

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Speaker 1: When a person who has just died sees their spirit

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Speaker 3: Doctor Newton, is there a hell?

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Speaker 1: No one that I have ever put in hypnosis has

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Speaker 1: According to my clients. They are taken, in fact, to

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Speaker 1: And I just would like to say that these people

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Speaker 1: generally who have committed evil will probably of their own volition,

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Speaker 1: Let me describe to you where I think some people

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Speaker 3: Are there really young and old souls?

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Speaker 1: This idea of very old souls and very young souls

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Speaker 3: What is the ultimate goal of our souls? And is

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Speaker 1: brought me to this kicking and screaming. After years of

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Speaker 1: work with them and the consistency of the reports and

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Speaker 1: knowing what I do about hypnosis and doing the work

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Speaker 1: and research myself today where I can say that I

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Speaker 1: believe in a power greater than myself, a source for

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Speaker 1: all life and all intelligence. So the concept of all

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Speaker 1: this incarnation is to arrive at that state of perfection

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Speaker 1: where we can rejoin that source from once we came.

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Speaker 4: Hi, this is ufologist Kevin Randall, and you're listening to

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain

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Speaker 3: and we're listening to words from the late doctor Michael Newton,

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Speaker 3: who really was cutting edge in this life between Lives therapy.

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Speaker 3: I didn't want to step over this, but at the

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Speaker 3: end of the last segment he makes a statement, I

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Speaker 3: can say that I believe in a power greater than

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Speaker 3: myself and a source for all life and all in intelligence.

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Speaker 3: So the concept of this incarnation is to arrive at

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Speaker 3: that state of perfection where we can rejoin that source

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Speaker 3: from once we came. Personally, I take that as creating

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Speaker 3: heaven on earth, not so much outside of ourselves, but

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Speaker 3: how we can live our lives powerfully now looking at

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Speaker 3: the big picture, looking at others that their souls, having

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Speaker 3: a human experience, looking at things through the eyes of

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Speaker 3: love and grace, being forgiving, and perhaps knowing that we

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Speaker 3: are divine beings, co creating with the God source. Next,

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Speaker 3: let's hear some words from him about ghosts. Also. He

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Speaker 3: doesn't go into this fully in this episode, but doctor

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Speaker 3: Newton believes that a part of us remains in the

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Speaker 3: spirit world and part of us comes to earth and

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Speaker 3: keeps reincarnate. In this I find very comforting because, as

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Speaker 3: you know, we all want to meet up with our

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Speaker 3: loved ones again when we pass. So doctor Newton feels

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Speaker 3: we remain in the spirit world or in the afterlife,

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Speaker 3: and part of us comes back to Earth and reincarnates.

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Speaker 1: People can get misconceptions from ghosts, and it's my feeling

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Speaker 1: that there are beings who have not left the astroplane

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Speaker 1: yet because they're not ready to. They're very dissatisfied with things.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they were murdered, they want to find vengeance, and

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Speaker 1: so forth. They're not forced into the spirit world. Usually

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Speaker 1: they're taken by the hand when they're ready and taken

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Speaker 1: into the spirit world. I might also say that there's

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Speaker 1: another element of this that's unique to my own work.

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Speaker 1: In terms of ghosts, I believe in the duality of soul.

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Speaker 1: Souls have the ability to live parallel lives, to divide

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Speaker 1: their energy. A part of their energy always stays behind

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Speaker 1: in the spirit world. So you could have a ghost

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Speaker 1: with an energy particle who is still on Earth, have

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Speaker 1: the same holographic image, if you will, of that soul's

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Speaker 1: ego in the spirit world at the same time. So

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Speaker 1: we never stop learning and we never actually are totally

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Speaker 1: disconnected from the spirit world.

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Speaker 3: What are soul groups?

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Speaker 1: Soul groups are one of the most interesting aspects of

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Speaker 1: my work. The reason for this is that people who

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Speaker 1: I take into their soul group are able to tell

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Speaker 1: me their level of advancement based on how the others

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Speaker 1: are doing in their group as well as themselves. This

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Speaker 1: gives me a much broader perspective as to where this

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Speaker 1: individual is in terms of development. There are in every

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Speaker 1: soul group a variety of personalities. You have courageous souls,

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Speaker 1: you have meek souls, you have passive souls. You have

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Speaker 1: souls who are very unselfish, those that are a bit

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Speaker 1: more self centered. You have souls that are quiet and contemplative,

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Speaker 1: and those that are jokesters. So from the information, I'm

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Speaker 1: able to determine psychologically a lot about the type of

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Speaker 1: group that my client comes from and what I might

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Speaker 1: be able to do to help them in terms of

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Speaker 1: their life lessons and purpose. But it's fascinating too from

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Speaker 1: another standpoint, because we don't all progress in the same

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Speaker 1: at the same speed, in the same way, in the

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Speaker 1: same areas. I like to point out that I had

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Speaker 1: one man that took him between four and five thousand

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Speaker 1: years to conquer jealousy. He is not a jealous person

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Speaker 1: in this life. He's intolerant as hell, and that's what

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Speaker 1: he's working on now. But he's not jealous, and so

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Speaker 1: that was his particular difficult hurdle to get over, and

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Speaker 1: yet there are people in his soul group that were

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Speaker 1: always very tolerant and they have tried to help him

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Speaker 1: between lives. So this is what I mean about rates

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Speaker 1: of progression. And yet I find that the whole soul

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Speaker 1: group pretty generally belongs in a certain niche as far

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Speaker 1: as development, and they're all going to move forward together,

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Speaker 1: some a little faster than others, others will be a

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Speaker 1: little lower, but essentially they're all at about the same level.

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Speaker 3: Is the purpose of life all about learning?

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Speaker 1: Essentially? In the beginning of our many, many existences, It's

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Speaker 1: about learning lessons, It's about improving understanding where we are

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Speaker 1: in terms of our development and where we need to go.

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Speaker 1: And the reason that that's such an important question is

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Speaker 1: that many, many people that I work with incarnate on

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Speaker 1: other worlds and are in other dimensions besides Earth. Earth

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Speaker 1: has a particular difficulty in that we have amnesia. Our

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Speaker 1: human minds set up an amnesia block when we come

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Speaker 1: into this world, so that we in fact don't have

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Speaker 1: any knowledge that we can recall readily about the spirit

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Speaker 1: world or our spirit guides. Interestingly enough, it's not so

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Speaker 1: true with young young children. You see a little boy

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Speaker 1: or girl playing in a sandbox one years old, two

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Speaker 1: years old, and they're having these imaginary playmates, which may

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Speaker 1: not be so imaginative. But by the time they're in

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Speaker 1: the first grade in school, we've pretty much knocked all

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Speaker 1: that out of them, and so that amnesia block is

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Speaker 1: pretty much set, and so they don't remember themselves as spirits,

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Speaker 1: and they don't remember their friends in the spirit world

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Speaker 1: as spirits. But what's interesting is that it is a planet.

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Speaker 1: Earth is of self discovery. The idea is that by

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Speaker 1: not knowing the answers to the test questions before you

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Speaker 1: come in, you solve these problems yourself, in your own

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Speaker 1: way and your own time, and in your own environment

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Speaker 1: and in your own body. Not to say that we

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Speaker 1: don't have genetic problems, there are those who select bodies

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Speaker 1: who do have problems with aggressive behavior. Maybe they have

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Speaker 1: a chemical imbalance that causes other behavioral problems that they

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Speaker 1: need to overcome in order to achieve the lessons for

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Speaker 1: which they came through to accomplish on Earth. And I'd

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Speaker 1: like to point out that it's by design everyone in

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Speaker 1: everybody has select to that body they knew in advance

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Speaker 1: what the body was going to be like to a

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Speaker 1: certain extent, and they chose that body with the help

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Speaker 1: of their guides in order to achieve certain lessons. But

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Speaker 1: these same folks can also incarnate on other planets where

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Speaker 1: there is no amnesia. There are all different ways in

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Speaker 1: which we can progress and learn and understand about who

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Speaker 1: we really are and the power of our energy. Earth

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Speaker 1: is only one school.

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Speaker 3: Can the spirit world be fun?

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Speaker 1: This is one of the most jovial parts, if I

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Speaker 1: could call it that, of my work. Some people think

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Speaker 1: that I spend a little too much time with us

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Speaker 1: and make too light of it. I believe that it's

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Speaker 1: important that everybody know that the spirit world is a

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Speaker 1: place of humor and fun. It is not all business.

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Speaker 1: It is not all the kinds of things I describe

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Speaker 1: in some of my chapters about energy work, creation work,

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Speaker 1: learning to cope with our lessons in classroom type situations.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of that. But we also have R

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Speaker 1: and R restaurant recreation, and I've had many clients tell

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Speaker 1: me about playing games. Some of the games I hear

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Speaker 1: are like red Rover, where sides will line up opposite

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Speaker 1: each other and come crashing together as balls of energy

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Speaker 1: in order to unite and blend their intelligent energy, and

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Speaker 1: it's kind of like playing bumper cars. Others will talk

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Speaker 1: about a dodgeball game where they will throw bolts of

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Speaker 1: energy at each other, or playing tag these kinds of things.

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Speaker 1: And there's a lot more esoteric type games where they

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Speaker 1: can go to other worlds where there is no human life,

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Speaker 1: for example, and frolic if you will on that world

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Speaker 1: as spirits who are not there turn to learn lessons,

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Speaker 1: but to simply have fun with each other, and they play.

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Speaker 1: So once in a while, when I give a speech

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Speaker 1: about the fact that there is a lot of humor

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Speaker 1: and play in the spirit world people, some people get

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Speaker 1: a little upset because they think it all should be very,

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Speaker 1: very serious, and I find that that's just not true.

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Speaker 3: Could you talk about our dreams?

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Speaker 1: When we dream? Generally, my way of describing dreams is

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Speaker 1: in three categories. We can cleanse our minds at the

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Speaker 1: end of every day. It's kind of a cleaning house

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Speaker 1: where we vent a lot of the things that have

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Speaker 1: gone on, and a lot of it is like everything

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Speaker 1: short circuited up there. We've all had dreams which seem

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Speaker 1: like just utter nonsense. If we wake up in the

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Speaker 1: morning and wonder what they were all about, or if

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Speaker 1: we wake up in the middle of the night and

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Speaker 1: they've just happened and we don't make any sense of them.

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Speaker 1: We also have those dreams, which are problem solving dreams.

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Speaker 1: We go to bed with a specific problem, and somehow

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Speaker 1: in the morning we wake up and our answer is

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Speaker 1: beginning to formulate. So that's a very cortextual type of

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Speaker 1: dream where we're really analyzing a problem and it's our

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Speaker 1: sleep state is helping us resolve that. Then we have

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Speaker 1: what I call spiritual dreams, the dreams in terms of

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Speaker 1: flying dreams or water dreams, where in fact we are

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Speaker 1: creatures that we don't understand in a conscious state, but

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Speaker 1: we're reliving earlier experiences. I might also mention that the

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Speaker 1: problem solving and the spiritual dreams can overlap. Up we

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Speaker 1: may receive help from a guide in the middle of

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Speaker 1: the night to some major problem that we just can't

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Speaker 1: seem to solve during the day, and our minds are

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Speaker 1: not open to receiving information from our guides. Maybe we're

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Speaker 1: not people who meditate, so the only way they really

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00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: have of reaching us is when we're in a subconscious

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Speaker 1: state at night, and so dreams can take many different forms.

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Speaker 3: Are there different levels of souls?

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Speaker 1: I find the different levels of souls are generally on

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Speaker 1: three different levels, although I can keep this simple and

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Speaker 1: just say beginner in advance. In my book, I describe

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Speaker 1: them as beginner, intermediate, and advance, and there are a

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Speaker 1: couple of grades in between that, but that is a

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Speaker 1: general category. I think that the thing that differentiates the

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Speaker 1: beginner from the intermediate is essentially by the time you

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Speaker 1: reach intermediate level, you're beginning your teacher training. You're given

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Speaker 1: more responsibility. You've had a lot of lives that have

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00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: been very difficult, and you've been very successful in your

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Speaker 1: life in handling them. One of the primary things that

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Speaker 1: our guides and teachers look at is how we have

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Speaker 1: treated others in our life. What have we done for

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00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: others as opposed to ourselves. And if we find people

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Speaker 1: who are really quite unselfish in giving people, we know

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Speaker 1: that probably they're moving into the intermediate level. And from

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Speaker 1: the intermediate level to the advanced level. Is the difference

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Speaker 1: between a soul being at the beginning stage of teaching

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Speaker 1: to one that is a more advanced teacher and those

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Speaker 1: souls that are more advanced are into work that is very,

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Speaker 1: very demanding. Many of them will have a number of

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Speaker 1: people with whom they are teaching, who are on Earth

658
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Speaker 1: and on other planets. And it is also their responsibility

659
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Speaker 1: in the spirit world too, if you will run spirit

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Speaker 1: groups as teachers and to conduct lessons and to work

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Speaker 1: with individual souls on their own problems. So there's quite

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Speaker 1: a difference between a beginner and an advanced soul.

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Speaker 3: Well, I can tell you right now that you are

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Speaker 3: not a beginner soul, and neither am I. We are

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Speaker 3: people looking for the bigger picture, aren't we. So where

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Speaker 3: are we on the scale?

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I say we are old souls. When we get back

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Speaker 3: from the break, more concepts we're going to hear from

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Speaker 3: doctor Newton. He'll talk about future lives, the concept of time,

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Speaker 3: the death experience and the process of reincarnating, and soulmates.

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Speaker 3: Let's take our break and we'll be back. You are

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Speaker 1: Stay there, Sandra will be right back.

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Speaker 3: This is Afterlife expert Daniel Braakley, and you're listening to

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Speaker 3: the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain

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Speaker 3: and you're listening to words from the late doctor Michael Newton,

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Speaker 3: author of several books, including his groundbreaking Journey of Souls.

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Speaker 3: If you wish to get your own life between life regression,

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Speaker 3: you can go to Newton Institute dot org and find

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Speaker 3: his list of global practitioners. We're going to continue on

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Speaker 3: with his words, what it's like to die.

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Speaker 1: My clients describe death as something it is very, very

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Speaker 1: beautiful for them. The trauma that has just gone before

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Speaker 1: is pretty much wiped out. At the moment of death,

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Speaker 1: they rise out of their bodies. They realize that they're

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Speaker 1: an immortal being. Oh my god, I'm not dead is

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Speaker 1: a statement I hear quite often. And they look back

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Speaker 1: at their bodies, and of course all of their memories,

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Speaker 1: of all of who they are as souls, and all

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Speaker 1: their past lives come crashing in and they realize that

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Speaker 1: this life they have just lived is transitory. Not that

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Speaker 1: they can't feel sadness for the husband and wife who

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Speaker 1: is at their bedside, for example, or a child, But

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Speaker 1: souls don't feel sadness the same way human beings do.

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Speaker 1: Because they're immortal beings. They understand that they will soon

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Speaker 1: be joined by these folks they've left behind. And I

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Speaker 1: can tell you this that most people feel two things.

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Speaker 1: They feel freedom, and they feel joy at the moment

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Speaker 1: of death.

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Speaker 3: Freedom and joy at the time of death. That works

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Speaker 3: for me. Next, he'll talk about future lives and the

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Speaker 3: concept of time.

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Speaker 1: Future lives is an area that I do get into occasionally.

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Speaker 1: Some of my colleagues enjoy working a lot with progression

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Speaker 1: there is that's the difference. It's progression instead of regression.

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Speaker 1: And I've heard some interesting I mean, I've had people

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Speaker 1: who have been on starships because they're seeing into the future.

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Speaker 1: A lot of times, though I don't like working in

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Speaker 1: the future, even when a client is able to talk

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Speaker 1: to me a little about it, because of the fact

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Speaker 1: that I think from a karmic lesson standpoint, it's better

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Speaker 1: that they not know what's coming up. I feel again,

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Speaker 1: a lot of importance really comes by our discovering and

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Speaker 1: problem solving when the issue is right in front of us.

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Speaker 1: So I'm a little hesitant to spend too much time

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Speaker 1: with that, although I've had many clients who've talked to me,

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Speaker 1: for instance, about the twenty first twenty second century, how

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Speaker 1: overcrowded the next century is going to be on Earth,

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Speaker 1: and how there's going to be a lot of air pollution,

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Speaker 1: and how it's not going to be real easy living

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Speaker 1: around here. In fact, it's made my wife and I

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Speaker 1: come to the conclusion I think we'll wait a century

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Speaker 1: before we reincarnate together again. But I must tell you too,

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Speaker 1: that the fact of time often comes into this. People

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Speaker 1: who ask me questions about whether it's possible to see

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Speaker 1: into the future are suddenly confronted by this business of time,

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Speaker 1: the past, president future all being capitalized into one action,

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Speaker 1: and this is confusing for them. It doesn't bother them

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Speaker 1: so much. We talk about past lives and our current life,

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Speaker 1: but when we get into the future, they begin to

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Speaker 1: see that in fact, all time is. There's not an

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Speaker 1: absolute to time. It's not a chronology like it is

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Speaker 1: on earth. But in fact, when we are in the

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Speaker 1: spirit world, we're able to see into the future as

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Speaker 1: well as the past. If we were not able to

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Speaker 1: do this, we would not be able to select our

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Speaker 1: bodies and to know a little bit about what's going

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Speaker 1: to happen to us, so that we, in fact can

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Speaker 1: make the determination that this body is going to be

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Speaker 1: right for us. So, as of necessity, people have to

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Speaker 1: come to this philosophic concept that in fact, past, present,

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Speaker 1: and future is all relative. There's been a lot of

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Speaker 1: work done in recent years by people who are very

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Speaker 1: scientifically oriented on this. A whole new field of quantum mechanics,

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Speaker 1: where they believe that everything is electromagnetic light energy, and

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Speaker 1: that time is essential emotion and not chronology has come

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Speaker 1: into play where people have had I think a greater

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Speaker 1: understanding is quite possible that there is no real relevance

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Speaker 1: to past president in future. As far as chronology on Earth,

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Speaker 1: it's difficult for us to accept this because we see

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Speaker 1: the sun come up in the morning, go down at night.

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Speaker 1: There's night and day, we age, we see everything changing

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Speaker 1: around us. So for us it's chronology. Time is very

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Speaker 1: important as an absolute, but it's not true in the

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Speaker 1: spirit world.

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Speaker 3: What are soulmates?

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Speaker 1: Dolemates can be confusing to people, of course, in the

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Speaker 1: spirit world. I find, and I think I've explained this,

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Speaker 1: that in a soul group, we have many soulmates. Our

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Speaker 1: soul groups may be made up of four or five

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Speaker 1: different people, or twenty five or thirty, depending on how

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Speaker 1: quickly we're moving through into the more advanced stages. It

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Speaker 1: could be argued that if your husband or wife is

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Speaker 1: your soulmate, but it could also be argued that your

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Speaker 1: best friend in high school is your soulmate, or your

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Speaker 1: business partner or whatever, and it may well be true

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Speaker 1: that they are all soulmates and all come from your

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Speaker 1: spirit group. For me, the most intensemate relationship is that

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Speaker 1: being with whom we like to reincarnate in terms of

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Speaker 1: a spouse, someone with whom we've been mate in many

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Speaker 1: many lives, and we often have changed genders. We've been

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Speaker 1: in the male in one life, and then a female

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Speaker 1: and another. This is another measure of the advancement of

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Speaker 1: the soul, because I find too that if souls incarnate

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Speaker 1: mostly as males or mostly as females, they haven't yet

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Speaker 1: reached that intermediate level where they can interchange with ease.

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Speaker 1: Soulmates are a very very important aspect of our lives,

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Speaker 1: and sometimes we learn our greatest lessons with our soulmates.

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Speaker 3: Here's a quote by doctor Newton from his book Journey

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Speaker 3: of Souls. When you look into a certain person's eyes

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Speaker 3: on the ground, even people you have just met, and

795
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Speaker 3: see a light you have known before, well that tells

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Speaker 3: you something about them as a human. You don't know why,

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Speaker 3: but your soul remembers. I can guess you've felt that too.

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Speaker 3: You meet someone and you feel so at home with them,

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Speaker 3: Could it be a soulmate? Next, Doctor Newton talks about

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Speaker 3: what it's like to come back to Earth.

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Speaker 1: When they decide, and their guides are also involved in

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Speaker 1: this decision, that it's time to come forward and be

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Speaker 1: reincarnated again. They go to a place where they can

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Speaker 1: study the bodies that they're going to be given as choices. Now,

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Speaker 1: I find this varies between clients. Some clients are given

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Speaker 1: two or three choices, other clients are given basically one choice.

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Speaker 1: But I have almost never found a client who has said,

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Speaker 1: I don't like that choice. Their guides and masters know

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Speaker 1: too much about them, too much about what needs to

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Speaker 1: be done to make mistakes in this area. So I

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Speaker 1: find most people are very joyful when they see the

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Speaker 1: bodies that they're going to inhabit in their next life.

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Speaker 1: They look almost as if they go into a television

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Speaker 1: studio or a movie theater and see in stop action

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Speaker 1: certain aspects of the life to come to see whether

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Speaker 1: their soul will fit into the personality of the body

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Speaker 1: that they're going to inhabit, and see how that will

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Speaker 1: work in terms of their coming forward. Now, i'd like

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Speaker 1: to say that it's an extremely important part of my

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Speaker 1: work to understand how the soul mind of my client

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Speaker 1: is interfacing with their earthly mind in the ego of

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Speaker 1: the body of the brain in which they're now incarnating

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Speaker 1: as a person in this particular life. Because, as I

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Speaker 1: mentioned before, we have different soul egos that combine with

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Speaker 1: different bodies, and it's true that in the womb when

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Speaker 1: we're analyzing what this mind is like and how we

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Speaker 1: might combine with it, there is a duality. Once we

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Speaker 1: are born, that fusion has taken place. It is not

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Speaker 1: as if the soul is an alien form. That baby

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Speaker 1: recognizes this intelligent life and welcomes it. After all, if

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Speaker 1: we were to take the soul out of say a

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Speaker 1: human body, we would probably have raw emotions. There would

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Speaker 1: be a survival instinct, we'd have aggression, we'd have passivity,

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Speaker 1: all those things which are influential to a soul. But

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Speaker 1: emotions are very peculiar to a body. A soul has

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Speaker 1: to learn how to cope with that. So the soul

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Speaker 1: brings to the body intuition, imagination, a concept of morality,

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Speaker 1: these sorts of things. So this is very important when

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Speaker 1: a soul is looking at that new body and deciding

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Speaker 1: whether this body is going to really be right for them.

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Speaker 1: So what happens with after this viewing period is over.

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Speaker 1: Souls go back and say goodbye to their soulmates and

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Speaker 1: their soul groups and their guides, and then they are

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Speaker 1: brought forward into that new body in the womb of

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Speaker 1: their mothers.

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Speaker 3: I'd like to thank doctor Michael Newton and the whole

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Speaker 3: staff of the Newton Institute for keeping this groundbreaking research

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Speaker 3: alone live and well in the world. Whether or not

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Speaker 3: one believes in life, between lives and reincarnation, we all

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Speaker 3: know we have a very powerful subconscious mind. Life between

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Speaker 3: lives therapy sessions empower the person living now, which is

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Speaker 3: in truth, the whole reason we have shades of the

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Speaker 3: afterlife to empower you now to live the best life possible.

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Speaker 3: All these episodes are like if you go into a

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Speaker 3: fancy department store and you're looking for an article of clothing.

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Speaker 3: There might be a hundred different jackets on the rack,

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Speaker 3: and you try each one on. Some will fit, some

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Speaker 3: you'll return to the rack, some you'll take home with

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Speaker 3: you same thing. With these different conversations about the afterlife,

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Speaker 3: I personally do not think it's one size fits all

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Speaker 3: for the dying experience and entering the afterlife. With so

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Speaker 3: many different cultures on planet Earth, I do think our

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Speaker 3: dying an afterlife experience may be different with lots of similarities.

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Speaker 3: So take those that empower you and use them to

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Speaker 3: live your best life possible. I'd like to share with

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Speaker 3: you this quote by doctor Michael Newton and he's talking

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Speaker 3: about our intuition. We should trust what we hear. Encourage

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Speaker 3: your inner voice with quiet contemplation. When we ask for guidance,

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Speaker 3: it's best not to demand immediate change, but instead request

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Speaker 3: help with only the next step in your life. When

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Speaker 3: you do this, be prepared for unexpected possibilities. Have the

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Speaker 3: faith and humility to open yourself up to a variety

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Speaker 3: Don't Die Radio. In the beginning, I was looking for

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Speaker 3: the answer about life and death in the afterlife, and

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Speaker 3: now I've found my answer and my truth, and hopefully

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Speaker 3: you're doing the same thing. Remember to join me at

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Speaker 3: Don't Die dot com. In closing, I'm Sandra Champlain. Thank

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Speaker 3: you so much for listening to Shades of the Afterlife

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