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Speaker 2: how we start off every show with what's up with that?

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Speaker 1: Do ah?

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Speaker 2: I am boogie as hell.

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Speaker 1: Yesterday I took my three indy biddies to their first

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Speaker 1: group tennis lesson yup, and let me just say this

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Speaker 1: and exactly as expected, which was not what we wished.

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Speaker 2: We were sitting there.

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Speaker 1: Like my three year old ain't about no discipline yet.

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Speaker 1: I hope she turns into a wily soon, because boy,

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at her like my grandma, my mama, this

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Speaker 1: ain't this ain't allowed, Like she just don't give it.

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Speaker 1: But I will say this. At that age, even the

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Speaker 1: instructor was like, wait till they're in their force. But

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Speaker 1: you know, you always try to get ahead of it

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Speaker 1: or you want her to be a part of the group.

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Speaker 1: Where you going, daddy, We're going to take big brother

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Speaker 1: and big sister to play tennis, and you stay your

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Speaker 2: So I'm like, all right, we'll come home and then

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Speaker 2: she in do a thing.

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Speaker 1: My four year old. Ooh, she got to work on

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Speaker 1: her hand out of coordination. Like she's into dance, she's

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Speaker 2: But this is the first time she ever did something

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Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, okay, you got all the

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Speaker 1: this girl can run. I was like, yeah, she's fast fast,

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Speaker 1: But that ball came at us. She was like, and

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Speaker 1: MJ was MJ, y'all know what MJ is. I gotta

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Speaker 1: stop MJ. Man. He that little boy could do some

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Speaker 1: stuff anyway. So we had a good time out there

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Speaker 1: despite the mosquitos. Still at me. Thanks for all the

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Speaker 1: tips on how to get rid of these mosquitos out here.

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Speaker 1: And other than that, went home, was going to a

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Speaker 1: pickleball outing, one of those open settings where random strangers

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Speaker 1: and play open pickleball. So I'm like, I'm leaving my

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Speaker 1: gonna go meet some strangers and play with them. But

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Speaker 1: I went with my guy Daddy, that's my dog right there,

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Speaker 1: say randomly, they were whipping me up, but we ended

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Speaker 1: Right yeah, all right, let's speak of enough new buzz.

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Speaker 1: Let's get into this show. Because Colin Kaepernick wants a

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Speaker 1: new squad. Yes, he wants to be on the New

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Speaker 1: York Jets, but not the active squad. He said, I'll

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Speaker 1: take what you give me, hommy. I'll be on the

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Speaker 1: practice squad, so he wrote a letter to the New

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Speaker 1: York Jets general manager Joe Douglas expressing his interests in

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Speaker 1: joining the teens practice squad. First thing I thought of

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Speaker 1: is like, how the hell this letter get out? And

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Speaker 1: why did this letter get out? Hmm. I don't even

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Speaker 1: want to go too deep into that. But if I'm

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Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick or his team, why am I putting this

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Speaker 1: letter out? Now? It goes with the narrative that I've

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Speaker 1: always said that Colin Kaepernick knows he can't play, so

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Speaker 1: all he has to do is act like he wants

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Speaker 1: to play, and then that's gonna make him continue to

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Speaker 1: be a martyr. I've always said that. Ah. But at

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Speaker 1: the same time, you know there are reporters out there

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Speaker 1: that do their job. Maybe this just got caught up

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Speaker 1: in the process. Anyway, Kaepernick's letter was in response to

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Speaker 1: the injury of Aaron Rodgers, and we know the Jets

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Speaker 1: are trying to win a champion ship.

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Speaker 2: At least they were this offseason.

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Speaker 1: At least they were for four players in that first

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Speaker 1: game right now with Zach Wilson. Even though you just

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Speaker 1: close to maybe turning it on Zach Wilson, you this

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Speaker 1: far in terms of the results right now. So Colin

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Speaker 1: Kaepernick said he was writing in response to the unfortunate

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Speaker 1: loss of Aaron Rodgers, and he wanted to keep the

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Speaker 1: team on a super Bowl track, keep them moving down

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Speaker 1: that super Bowl track. Now that's not being so honest

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Speaker 1: in this moment, because he knows damn well they off track.

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Speaker 1: That's why he write a letter. So I don't want

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Speaker 1: to be hypercritical, but keep it real, dog, you ain't.

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Speaker 1: I want you all to continue going on this what track?

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Speaker 1: That track behind us? And you think you're gonna fix it,

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Speaker 1: say you're gonna fix it. Then don't say you're just

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Speaker 2: I digress.

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Speaker 1: So he explicitly stated that he wasn't seeking the starting

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Speaker 1: to help prepare the defense. Now, I thought that was strategic,

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Speaker 1: even though it's not genuine, I think it's strategic. Hey,

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Speaker 1: I just said, I know a lot of people think

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Speaker 1: And then he went up to Seattle. They were like,

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Speaker 1: He didn't want that job, or it didn't work out,

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Speaker 1: whatever you want to do, etc. So he's trying to

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Speaker 1: dispel that, which is a smart play, except it's not

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Speaker 1: the smartest play if you're being real about this situation,

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Speaker 1: because this problem is the starting quarterback position. So you

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Speaker 1: want to come help keep us on a super Bowl

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Speaker 1: track we're not on anymore by being the backup on

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Speaker 1: practice squad. That ain't our problem. Okay. So anyway, he says,

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Speaker 1: as much as I would love the opportunity to feel

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Speaker 1: can imagine a much different approach involving me. I would

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Speaker 1: be honored and extremely grateful for the opportunity to come

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Speaker 1: first man ever. All Right, let me just tell y'all

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Speaker 1: something for y'all who don't know what the practice squad is. Look,

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Speaker 1: they make money, they make job money, they make career money.

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Speaker 1: But the ego, like I'm just telling y'all because it's

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Speaker 1: all about keeping up with the Joneses, and it's not

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Speaker 1: just financially, because there's gonna be some dudes on your

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Speaker 1: team making twenty thirty million a year and you making

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Speaker 1: one hundred thousand, couple hundred thousand, right, It ain't that.

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Speaker 1: It's the fact that you are doing the same job

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Speaker 1: as that guy and not that he's making ninety x

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Speaker 1: that you're making. Is that he gets to treat you

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Speaker 1: if he wanted to a little worse than everyone else.

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Speaker 1: Now I would say ninety x, but you wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: on the team. You still a grown ass man. Right.

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, cats be boobooing on practice squad.

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Speaker 1: Cats like, go go get that homie. What I'm old.

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Speaker 1: I'm as old as you, brother, Like, so, practice squad

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Speaker 1: ain't for the for.

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Speaker 2: The faint of heart. Let's just say that, all right.

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Speaker 1: But Colin Kaepernick at this age would like to take

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Speaker 1: that take any opportunity can. So despite the star status,

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Speaker 1: we know who he is. He's a beast. When he

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl appearance and he was just saying, look, I'm

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Speaker 1: would do this with the sole mission of getting your

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Speaker 1: defense ready each week.

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Speaker 2: It is one of the quotes.

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Speaker 1: He also said, unlike many of the veteran quarterbacks that

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Speaker 1: have been named in the media, I've never retired or

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Speaker 1: stopped training. The Jets had not signed Kaepernick at the

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Speaker 1: time of this article, and this conversation, Trevor Simeon is

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Speaker 1: the guy that they actually signed to their practice squad instead. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Kaepernick said, he's ready, all right. I can't doubt that.

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Speaker 1: I can't doubt that. I can't doubt his talent. I

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Speaker 1: but I can't doubt it because there was a time

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Speaker 1: where when you talk about arm, talent and.

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Speaker 2: Mobility, that he was krem de la creme.

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Speaker 1: He was top of the heat. There was a time

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Speaker 1: where also reading defenses wasn't his strength. But there was

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Speaker 1: a time where the results spoke for themselves, and you

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Speaker 1: were looking at Colin Kaepernick like a whole different man

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Speaker 1: than you are right now. Practice squad back then would

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Speaker 1: have never been a thought of yours. But we're here now,

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Speaker 1: and where are we now? Where at a place where

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Speaker 1: this just doesn't feel real to me? He sued the NFL.

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Speaker 1: He settled that with the NFL, that lost suit and

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Speaker 1: now wants to sign back to an NFL team. Everybody

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Speaker 1: listening to me right now knows how preposterous that sounds,

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Speaker 1: how ignorant that sounds. Right, However, let's go through the conversation.

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Speaker 1: Let's go through this process. This is the same process

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Speaker 1: that has the energy of you sue somebody. Oh it's

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Speaker 1: a rap. That's Stephen A. Smith to to energy.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm tinking about.

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Speaker 1: Steven A. Smith still mad at t O four years

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Speaker 1: later for a tempting to sue ESPN and bringing his

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Speaker 1: name into it.

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Speaker 2: So y'all remember that energy. We're gonna keep that energy.

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Speaker 1: So we understand what this energy is as to say,

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Speaker 1: keep that same energy my guy.

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Speaker 2: Right, So if we.

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Speaker 1: Got that energy and respect, Hey, steven A he try

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Speaker 1: to sue you? Hey, that is kind of shady, all right,

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Speaker 1: people who are saying that, Well, then keep that energy.

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Speaker 1: You try to sue the NFL. No, oh, you did

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Speaker 1: suit the NFL. You wentn't even further and settled. And

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, in every settlement I've ever seen, ever

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Speaker 1: So we got this energy out there. Well, we know,

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Speaker 2: For these reasons are much much more. But I don't

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Speaker 1: I don't know what Colin Kaepernick signed away, but he

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Speaker 1: Again, do you think that this approach, what seems more

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Speaker 1: Y'all see them sweats I'm wearing over here, them gray prints.

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Speaker 1: Girls love those, oh man? And you know what, y'all

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Speaker 1: So he went on Stephen A. Smith's show and criticized

434
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Speaker 1: the ratings power of the new cast of Undisputed. Yeah

435
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Speaker 1: that's what he did, right. We know who's over there,

436
00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,399
Speaker 1: Michael Irvin, Keyshawn Johnson, Richard Sherman, etc. Little White with

437
00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 1: they have baby, please take the baby, etc. Right, So

438
00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 1: he was saying that he has confidence that him and

439
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:49,000
Speaker 1: Stephen A. Smith will always be number one in the ratings.

440
00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,080
Speaker 1: Here's a quote, y'all not going to be better than

441
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Speaker 1: me and Steven A. That's not going to happen. I

442
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Speaker 1: promise you that it's not going to happen ever ever.

443
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 1: Have hell. Wow. So he emphasized that belief that neither

444
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:07,080
Speaker 1: the new cast, nor Bayless nor none of y'all all

445
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:11,480
Speaker 1: y'all remember that movie YouTube, because none of them could

446
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 1: outperform him and stephen A Smith on first take.

447
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 2: Now.

448
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 1: He also talks about the possibility of taking over the

449
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Speaker 1: rains the first take if stephen A. Smith Ever ever

450
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Speaker 1: decided to leave. Here's a quote. Now, if stephen A says,

451
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:28,120
Speaker 1: shouldn't I want to go in a different direction, you

452
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 1: are still not gonna beat first take in the ratings. God, Lee,

453
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 1: that's gang related because stephen A is that dude. And

454
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Speaker 1: if stephen Ay ever decides to leave and turn the rains.

455
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Speaker 2: Over to me, you all know I'm that dude. I'm him.

456
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Speaker 2: I'm glad he said that dude, not that dude, because

457
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 2: I'm that dude. All right.

458
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Speaker 1: So basically, what or would our stephen A first take

459
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Speaker 1: is coming in first place, first taken, first place, first taken,

460
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Speaker 1: first place. That's what they do. Boy, used to love

461
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 1: that when you were and pop want to boo beat

462
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Speaker 1: them past?

463
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Speaker 2: Get it in. I digress, all right.

464
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Speaker 1: So first takes ratings have improved since Sharp joined the

465
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Speaker 1: show in September. It ain't no lie about it like

466
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Speaker 1: numbers of numbers objectively, it just says it, and it

467
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 1: leads to some of the public celebration we're seeing from

468
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Speaker 1: Shannon and from Stephen A.

469
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Speaker 2: Smith on the flip side on disputed numbers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're facing challenges and fighting and finding its footing.

471
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Speaker 1: As they wrote in this article after Shannon Sharp's departure,

472
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Speaker 1: Let's just be real about that. They have taken a

473
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Speaker 1: hit over there, and they have gotten a bump over there.

474
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 1: Shannon has to be feeling good about himself, as he should.

475
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Speaker 1: So now let's talk about this what is really going

476
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Speaker 1: on behind the scenes of this one. Let's take you

477
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Speaker 1: behind the veil. Oh, let me first dispute the claim,

478
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:55,200
Speaker 1: the myth misnomer that ESPN is just bar food. Right,

479
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 1: and I've been guilty of thinking that before too, because

480
00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:59,880
Speaker 1: you tell a lie long enough, you tell a lie

481
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,919
Speaker 1: strong enough and loud enough.

482
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Speaker 2: Shoot, don't think it's real. Don't think it's true.

483
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Speaker 1: But ESPN is not just bar food, not just backdrop

484
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Speaker 1: TV at every sports bar and every library and every airport. No,

485
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:17,160
Speaker 1: it's not that. Let's dispel that myth. Why because ESPN

486
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 1: here's a report. This was about a year ago ESPN

487
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Speaker 1: reached approximately seventy six million television households in the United States.

488
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Speaker 1: All right, that was back then. Let me take you

489
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Speaker 1: to August of this year, So what is that a

490
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:35,439
Speaker 1: month or so ago. For the first time, and I quote,

491
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Speaker 1: the most carried cable sports network in the United States is.

492
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Speaker 2: FS one, per the Sports Business Jural Journal.

493
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Speaker 1: Nielsen's latest estimates indicate that FS one is now in

494
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Speaker 1: seventy one point three million households. Okay, so whatever you

495
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Speaker 1: want to say in terms of cable, in terms of

496
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Speaker 1: households in the same amount if not.

497
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Speaker 2: F's one got ESPNB. So now if we have that.

498
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Speaker 1: Level playing field, let's talk through what's really going on undisputed.

499
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Speaker 1: Since they got the new cast, everybody you would they

500
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Speaker 1: debut August twenty eighth, something like that. They've had an

501
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Speaker 1: extra week because Shannon came on the week after, I

502
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Speaker 1: think like September fourth.

503
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Speaker 2: So the new cast, their ratings have eclipsed two hundred.

504
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 1: Thousand once once and this was as recent as last week.

505
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:34,640
Speaker 1: The ratings I saw once over two hundred thousand. Their

506
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 1: lowest was one hundred and eight thousand, Okay, so once

507
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Speaker 1: over two hundred. Most of them in the hundreds and

508
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 1: one one oh eight lowes. First Take, on the other hand,

509
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Speaker 1: has gone over seven hundred thousand three times one week

510
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 1: fewer in terms of its viewership because Shannon got there

511
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Speaker 1: a week later, seven hundred thousand plus three times in

512
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 1: a shorter amount of time.

513
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 2: And they're lowest, remember Undisputed lowest one o eight.

514
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 1: Three sixty seven for First Take, So basically First takes

515
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 1: lowest rating, it's close to almost double Undisputed its highest rating.

516
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 1: Say that again, First Takes lowest rating is almost double

517
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 1: Undisputed its highest rating. Okay, they're lowest rating for First

518
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 1: Take five hundred and five thousand, lowest for Undisputed once

519
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 1: again is one hundred and eight thousand.

520
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 2: What the hell is going on here?

521
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 1: Okay, there is something that's going on here that we

522
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 1: all know, but we're all not saying this disruption of cable.

523
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 1: We get that linear cable. You know everyone's pulling the core.

524
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 1: We get it, Okay, but there's something also going on

525
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 1: in terms of the content, content creators and those who

526
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Speaker 1: have a greater online present Right, who has the greatest

527
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 1: online presence if you want to include social media, that

528
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:10,479
Speaker 1: will probably be Stephen A. Smith, Right, there with Shannon

529
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 1: Sharp one and two baby, Shannon got them beat. Shannon

530
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 1: has them beaten YouTube. I think Steven A. Smith got

531
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 1: them beat in social media. But hey whatever, they're one

532
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 1: and two together, then they're skipped three. Now, if you

533
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 1: look at Stephen A. Smith's podcast, you look at Shannon's podcast,

534
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: and you look at Skiff's podcasts, I think that is

535
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 1: congruent to what I just gave you.

536
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 2: In terms of the ratings.

537
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 1: It's almost parallel of Oh, you put those two guys

538
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 1: together who have those tremendous followings and subscriber lists on

539
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: their podcast on a linear cable show Boom to the Moon.

540
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: You put Skip Bayless, who when we say, let's take

541
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 1: them away from FS one and that machinery, that engine

542
00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: and just say, hey, people rock with Skip Baylor's y'all

543
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: ain't rocking with Skip Bayless. In terms of his podcast now,

544
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting to see how that is detailing

545
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: what the future of Undisputed is because he ain't thrown

546
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 1: anyone on the show, and as we saw in the beginning,

547
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,160
Speaker 1: at least he was willing to take the back seat.

548
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 1: He was willing to be more of a moderator We'll

549
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 1: see how that plays. Because right now Skip Bayless' is

550
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 1: Q rating in terms of future indicating how he's going

551
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: to have the impact. It's down, man, It's down trajectory,

552
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: simple as that. So I want to know what y'all

553
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: grade first take, like as a show grade first take

554
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 1: beat it up in the comics, undisputed grade that beat

555
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: it up in the commics, right, because right now Shannon

556
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: knows he ain't.

557
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 2: Even filmed himself. He's like, oh, it is what it is. Right.

558
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: We in cruise control and we beating y'all in six gear,

559
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: y'all mashing the gas. We just chilling at the red

560
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: light and still beating y'all. It's interesting to see how

561
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: that goes. And y'all, I'm a fan in this way.

562
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I love it. Hey compete, compete, go

563
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 1: at each other. At the same time, he going at

564
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: somebody that months ago was your dude? What's your dude? Now?

565
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: I guess hey, different colors were wearing different stripes, we

566
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: wearing different uniform let's go. So do y'all like this

567
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: feud or y'all like, man, come on, man, let that

568
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 1: stuff go.

569
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 2: Why? Oh man, it's the racial show, right, here.

570
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 1: Boy, it's so crazy to me that people really get

571
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: caught up in race in twenty twenty three. Please don't

572
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: give me a history lesson. Please please stop right now. Dog,

573
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 1: all right, I understand people judge you by your color,

574
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 1: your skin, and yep, you're ignorant whoever you are. But

575
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: let's talk about this and see if this is ignorance.

576
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: Right now, skip Bailey's basically surmised that some of the

577
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: hate that's coming at Dion Sanders is coming from specifically

578
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: white coaches that take issue with this.

579
00:29:59,000 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 2: So let's get into it.

580
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the white coach, Dan Lanning, right, And

581
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: we saw that pregame speech and went viral.

582
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 2: You're already seen it.

583
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: We already disgusted right about the hypes around in Colorado.

584
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 2: And substance and blah blah blah.

585
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: So Oregon's playing for wins, Colorado's playing for clicks, Okay, okay,

586
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: And it was some irony they said in that. And

587
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: I mentioned it as well, because Oregon is known, if

588
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: you want to say, the top schools, known for more

589
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 1: of the flash, known for more of the hype, known

590
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: for more of what they do in sizzle and substance.

591
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 2: But they ain't want no.

592
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: Natty, but they have won non conference championships since ninety four,

593
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 1: so can't take nothing away from him.

594
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 2: But at the same time, it felt like Flash talking

595
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 2: about hype. It was kind of weird. Anyway.

596
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: Skip Bayles cart notice of this as well, and he

597
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: was not alone, but he was one of those who

598
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: criticized the intensity and to perceive negativity in Lanning's attitude

599
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 1: towards Dion Sanders, even though Lanning has been on record

600
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 1: before the game and after the game given Dion his

601
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,080
Speaker 1: props of what he's doing in terms of the inner

602
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: electricity and excitement he's bringing to college football. But that

603
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: always gets lost, you know, the positive things always get lost, Right,

604
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: Everybody wants to go and focus in on the car crash,

605
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: So let's do that. Skip Bayles suggested there's a deeper

606
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: issue at play here among white coaches against Dion Sanders.

607
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: He says, quote, there's a deep rooted, venomous vengeance that

608
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: is starting to manifest itself against Dion among white coaches.

609
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: Whoa way, I took exception to that, and I'm gonna

610
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: tell you why later, all right. So Landon responded to

611
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: Skip Bayless, stating that he doesn't know him and has

612
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: watched him frequently get things wrong, implying that Bayless's comments

613
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 1: were inaccurate.

614
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 2: Right, I don't know Skip at all. I've never had

615
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 2: a conversation with him.

616
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: I've watched him enough to know that how often he

617
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: gets it wrong, So that sounds about right. That was

618
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: a good word play, right there. I know how often

619
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: he gets it wrong, so that sounds about right.

620
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 2: Right. That's really good? All right?

621
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Speaker 1: So Lanna defended his pregame speech as he's emphasizing that

622
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: it was meant to motivate.

623
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 2: His team, not your team, his team, and.

624
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: Express positive sentiment sentiments about how Deon Sanders has affected football.

625
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 2: Okay, let's get into this.

626
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: We all know that the energy and exciting the college

627
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: football feels like it's at not an all time high,

628
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: but certainly of late recent history.

629
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 2: We are on a different level right now.

630
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if we're on a different level in

631
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: terms of play, but the energy around college football is fun.

632
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: We saw Notre Dame play Ohio State and that was

633
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: the most watched.

634
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 2: Game in thirty years. Did I hear that?

635
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: Yes, y'all out there loving some college football right now?

636
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: So we got a racial component to this. So let's

637
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: break it down. What an impossible position to put Dan

638
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: Lanning in if your skipped Bayless this white on white crime,

639
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: to have to defend this, to defend his statement of

640
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,719
Speaker 1: saying that he went at Dion senators because he's white

641
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: and Deon is black and there's this deep rooted, venomous

642
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: vengeance that he possesses that is manifesting itself in his comments.

643
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 2: How do you disprove this?

644
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: First of allf you're Dan Landing, let me help you

645
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: out hire the wily law firm of Wiley and Wyler Wyler,

646
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: And the first thing you need to.

647
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 2: Do is just look at the landscape.

648
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: So he's saying this is a white coaching issue against

649
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Speaker 1: Dion Sanders, a black coach. When there's a landscape of

650
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Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty three Football Bowl Subdivision teams FBS teams,

651
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Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty three, how many of them have

652
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Speaker 1: black head coaches? Anybody you want to take Dion out

653
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: to mix? Okay, let's do that four others. Con't you

654
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: hate when you got to like disprove and approve a negative?

655
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: Don't you hate that he'd be like Dom, I'm coaching

656
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: against almost all all white coaches. So anything they say

657
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: that praises me or criticizes me is gonna come from

658
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 1: more than likely a white coach. Let me give you

659
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 1: what that really means. How let me crystallize that for you.

660
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: When you do sports media like myself, like all the

661
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: guys we talk about all the time, and you cover

662
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:21,879
Speaker 1: the major sports football, basketball, you're typically gonna talk about

663
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: who black people.

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Speaker 2: Therefore, you're gonna get the label at times.

665
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: Now some people deserve the label, but you're gonna get

666
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: the label at times of being too critical of black people. Well,

667
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: let me just tell you, that's the pool that we

668
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: swimming in. It's fifty to seventy some percent black people

669
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 1: out there, depending on the sport. That's the same thing

670
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 1: that's happening right here. But I don't want to dismiss

671
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: it totally to just the numbers, but largely to the numbers.

672
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,839
Speaker 2: Let's say that Dion.

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Speaker 1: Also, this is another thing to help you, Dan Landy,

674
00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 1: you better hire me on retainer. Wh Wyley, This ain't

675
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: the first time Dion caught smoke as a head coach

676
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: Jackson State.

677
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 2: Anybody y'all want to go back through those receipts.

678
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: Hell or what he think he is?

679
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 2: He walking on the field all early doing around the circus.

680
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 2: Were they white?

681
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: Were they white head coaches at HBCUs they were white?

682
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,280
Speaker 2: Oh they weren't. Oh okay, okay.

683
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 1: See what I'm saying this is that BS skipper is

684
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 1: on that BS with this. I mean, look, it gets

685
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: the attention, it gets the clicks against me talking about it,

686
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna talk about it just to parse away

687
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 1: the real from the faith. But do better. It's crazy,

688
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: It's a faulty premise. White coaches hate Dion. No, you

689
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: know who hates Dion? And I bet it gonna be

690
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: a black coach sooner or later. Status quo coaches, people

691
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: who just like it the way it is, Lazy recruiters,

692
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. People who just like the

693
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 1: simple life, Oh the way it was. You know. You

694
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 1: know I'm talking about the one who always making lemonade

695
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: with anime, you know, them that ain't got nothing to

696
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: do with this landing. The only thing I didn't like,

697
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 1: and it was nippicking. The only thing I didn't like

698
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 1: is that he used a lot of dion fuel in

699
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: his gas, A lot of Dion octane in his gas.

700
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 1: That's gonna come back and hurt him sooner or later.

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00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 1: I don't know when Dion is good. When this team

702
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 1: has offensive defense alignment like they should, that matches their

703
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: skill position players, you'll see. But only status quote coaches

704
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 1: is gonna have a problem with this. Those who are

705
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 1: nimble have no problem. It kind of parallels me and

706
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 1: like being a FS one being an ESPN and then realizing,

707
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: oh wow, there's another space where you can do the

708
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: same thing you know, and you can build yourself up.

709
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: The nimble adapt and the status quo the stoic get

710
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: off my lawn, just sits there and complains all the

711
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: way through it. I wasn't gonna do that. F it's

712
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,919
Speaker 1: wanting to deserve that. I chold to deserve that nick

713
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: right in them ton deserve that I can't get on

714
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,399
Speaker 1: their shows and be over there being like.

715
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 2: Cyberpuff like I don't like this.

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Speaker 1: So same thing with these coaches, man, when they have

717
00:36:56,200 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 1: something to critical about Dion, make sure you separate. They

718
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: mad at Dion because they are a black coach like

719
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: Jackson State when he was there. They mad at Deonka

720
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: because they're a white coach like that Colorado he's there,

721
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: or are they just mad at Dion or are they

722
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 1: just mad at what Dianna is representing? But black or white,

723
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: Diona already caught smoke. It wasn't about the race of

724
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 1: the coach. It was about the fact that Dion is

725
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 1: doing something different. And as you have learned from the

726
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: beginning of time, if you ever try to lead people

727
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: in a different way, there's gonna be some hell to pay,

728
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,240
Speaker 1: even on Earth. So Sion is going through that. Stop

729
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: Skip better, it's too better, all right? So let's talk

730
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: about this. Y'all feel there's jealousy obviously about Dion, But

731
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,439
Speaker 1: do you think it's racial? And if so, how much

732
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 1: of it? We got black coaches killing them, we got

733
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: white coaches killing them. I mean, y'all, give me another

734
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: lane to look at this. And does Skip really have

735
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 1: an ounce of truth to what he's saying? Do you

736
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: really believe Skip beating up in the comments? Beat me

737
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: up in the comments? AT's talk about that and what

738
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 1: impact that any Kenny statements have on college football? You

739
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 1: think this is gonna change up the media dynamics. Coaches

740
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 1: are now using each other for clickbait to go at it,

741
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 1: then college football wants that they want the wild wild West,

742
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 1: or they kind of like nah, br chill s ketch kirk.

743
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 1: Oh man, Oh, I'm glad y'all stopped doing that in

744
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: them songs, you rappers kuts kirk. Y'all ever listen to

745
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 1: iTunes and get it like deep in the playlist or

746
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: like some no name rappers like you all know who

747
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: it is. It's like Jay curb Crazy. You're like, all right,

748
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: who's Jake curb Crazy from Saint Louis or something. You

749
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 1: listen to him, and he doing all the things that

750
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: the big artists do, but it just don't sound the same.

751
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: That always cracks me up. I'm like, I hope it

752
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: works for you, cause the beat sound kind of the same.

753
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: You're doing this ketch kirk and you do it all,

754
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: but it just all right whatever, All right, man, Let's

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Speaker 1: get into this bonus topic right here after we show

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Speaker 1: will give you a shout out on the show like

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Speaker 1: I did in the beginning of today's show, or just

760
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Speaker 1: your email, one time donation, whatever it is. Y'all know

761
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: these kids need help, and y'all know I need to

762
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 1: lead them kids, And now I got to help the

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Speaker 1: kids out support them. My life's mission is to be

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00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: a giver, right. I'm gonna make a living off a giving.

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Speaker 1: That's it. That's me. So let's do it together, all right,

766
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Speaker 1: Sean Peyton? Oops, Hey, Shan faith boy, what had happened

767
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Speaker 1: with you?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 1: This era of Denver Bronco football under Sean Payton off

770
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 1: to a slow start. It's begun poorly. They're zero and

771
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: three right now, now seventy twenty loss. We saw humiliating

772
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: to the Miami Dolphins. You let somebody boat race you

773
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: like that. It's time to look in the mirror, everybody. All,

774
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: y'all get in front of some mirrors, right, But this

775
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:52,240
Speaker 1: is a different lane of it. Local media has taken

776
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: issue with it, and y'all remember Brandon Stokely. I remember

777
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 1: Brandon Stokely ride receiver for the Denver Broncos. Actually I

778
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: think that's my daughter's godfather, Like I should really know that, right,

779
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: but I think so, long story, but I get to

780
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: it one day, all right. So for the handling of

781
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Speaker 1: the media, and he accuses Sean Payton of favoring national

782
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,479
Speaker 1: media over local reporters, and.

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00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,439
Speaker 2: I was like, wow, we're still doing that.

784
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Speaker 1: I remember when I played Cats used to act like that,

785
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,839
Speaker 1: Like d be sitting there at their locker and then

786
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:29,760
Speaker 1: our sports media person comes in and he's like, hey, Marcellus, Hey,

787
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 1: so and so we got Ken Holsen house here from

788
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 1: a Buffalo Tribune and You're like, okay, now me, I

789
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 1: was always nice, but I'm just using me because I

790
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 1: don't want to out any of my teammates protected guilty.

791
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: So they were like, oh okay, and then he'd be like, oh, no,

792
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 1: we have Peter King from sports History. Oh really, where

793
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: Peter at?

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00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 2: Like, no, why are you doing that? Dude, Peter? Why

795
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 2: are you doing rolls the house like that?

796
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 1: Man?

797
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 2: Get that man some love.

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00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: So here's the thing, this is what Brandon's had to

799
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: say about it, honestly here and I'm a Sean Payton fan. Here.

800
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: You don't get passes when you come in and you

801
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:07,280
Speaker 1: treat the local media one way.

802
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 2: But the national media another way.

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00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 1: So he pointed out how peyton Is has a contrasting

804
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: style and treatment of national versus local media, and he's

805
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 1: got frustration with the approach. He said, quote, You've just

806
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: got to get up there and take it like a

807
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 1: big boye. If that was a national reporter, if that

808
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 1: was Seth Wickersham or Jared Bell, he would have answered

809
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: it like that, I can promise you that.

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Speaker 2: And that's what pisses me off.

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Speaker 1: He's talking about that response with Sean Payton was like, yeah,

812
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:35,240
Speaker 1: I answered that already.

813
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 2: What's the question.

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00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:41,399
Speaker 1: It's maybe it always made me think I don't care

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Speaker 1: enough because I never lose myself like that. When I

816
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: played and stuff, I was like, why am I mad

817
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 1: at you? Like I don't displace my aggression. If I'm

818
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: mad at you, I'm mad at you. But guess who

819
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: I'm mad at that team that just whooped my ass?

820
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: Who am I mad at my team that didn't show up?

821
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Speaker 1: Why am I taking that out? That is some chump

822
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: change shit. When I see that every time, I'm like, dah,

823
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 1: you're weak taking it out on this dude, the dud

824
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 1: dude he asked the question. Yeah, I mean, what he

825
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 1: really wanted to ask is the real uh bruh. You

826
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: said a lot coming into this this job, and you

827
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:16,720
Speaker 1: said a lot this off season.

828
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Speaker 2: You said a lot about Nathaniel Hackett.

829
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Speaker 1: You want to retract any of that, because uh, Nathaniel

830
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 1: Hacker never looked like this, that old school approach where

831
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 1: you assume that a reporter, oh, because he loco can't

832
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: reach everybody.

833
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 2: That's so nineties, like dog.

834
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Speaker 1: All these cats got followings, all these cats got social media,

835
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 1: all these cats report to other publications.

836
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 2: All these cats could reach everybody. It's over.

837
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: That game is played talking loud and ain't saying nothing.

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00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: That's what Sean Payton is starting to look like, because

839
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 1: it's crazy. He three and oh, I mean, oh, he

840
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: wishes real oh and three. Guess it was two and

841
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: one last year. Nathaniel Hacket two and one. That now

842
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: it ended five and twelve. But he started off two

843
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 1: and one, started off faster than Sean Payton even beat

844
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers last year.

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Speaker 2: Come on, Sean Payton, do better.

846
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: Right. Came in there, and I swear he was employed

847
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: in part because he had the stripes, he had the create,

848
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 1: he had the resume, he had the championship medal to

849
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 1: go out there and detach this organization if necessary.

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00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 2: From Russell Wilson, I always say that.

851
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 1: But now somewhere Nathaniel Hacking is over there, like yeah,

852
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,399
Speaker 1: what y'all dot that.

853
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 2: Actually sound pretty good?

854
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: I me joing, ain't no fun one the rabbit got

855
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:31,479
Speaker 1: the gun. And Doc Nathaniel Hacker like, what you say?

856
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 1: What seventy to twenty oh and three? I was two

857
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: and one and the worst loss they had was to

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00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 1: the defending champs, the Rams at that time, which weren't

859
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: looking like the defending champs, but they still beat them

860
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 1: fifty one fourteen. So Nathaniel like, no, you're starting off

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Speaker 1: worse than me. You ain't making Russell Wilson look that

862
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Speaker 1: much better. If anything, worst record, worst boat race, got killed.

863
00:43:57,920 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: What'd you say I did? I was the worst coach

864
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: in NFL history? You said something? So man, All I

865
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: want to say is Sean Payton, get right, bro, because

866
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: you came into this job swearing, and I thought so too,

867
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,399
Speaker 1: that he was gonna be the guy that was gonna

868
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: be able to bring the fist in the hard hand,

869
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: heavy hand to Russell Wilson.

870
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 2: Get this organization reset.

871
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 1: Now you keep doing this, they gonna look past Russell Wilson.

872
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 2: SAI, we're gonna keep the quarterback. We gotta get rid

873
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:28,800
Speaker 2: of s Champayton.

874
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 1: He ain't all in that TV messed him up them

875
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 1: last year's in New Orleans.

876
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 2: Let's look at him again. You know what I mean.

877
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 1: I'm telling you it happens fast in the NFL. So

878
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 1: how do y'all think coaches should manage media relations like?

879
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 1: Obviously not talk to somebody like that, But what's the

880
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 1: best way to do it? I mean, you, hot one, Hunter,

881
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 1: you just got embarrassed for the world to see. You

882
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,240
Speaker 1: lost twenty to seventy, not seventy to twenty. You lost

883
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 1: twenty to seventy. You don't want to be talking to nobody,

884
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: but you gotta talk. How do you think they could

885
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 1: fix that? And how important is a relationship with the

886
00:44:58,320 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 1: media from a coach's perspective?

887
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 2: We there to watch the game. I'm give a damn

888
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 2: what you are thinking, coach? Oh?

889
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 1: Actually I do? Ah, No, I don't. It depends on it, right,

890
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: So y'all beat that up in the comments, al right?

891
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,240
Speaker 1: And do y'all think there is a difference between national

892
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 1: and local media think you should treat them different? Like

893
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 1: being real?

894
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 2: You know you.

895
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 1: Local homie, I'm good, homy or and thennational h what's up?

896
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 2: Baby?

897
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 1: How you doing? You want to go out tonight? You

898
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: know what I mean says you treat them different. All right,

899
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 1: y'all trying to fuck up some comments, fuck us some comments. Yeah,

900
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:30,240
Speaker 1: let's talk about that social deletion. You are that dude.

901
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 2: Thank you.

902
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 1: I've been trying to tell my son exactly what you

903
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 1: are saying, but not as eloquent as you just shared

904
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: this with them. Thank you. Yes, I'm glad you did

905
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 1: share with them. Do not run away from anything in

906
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: this world. Man, If you gotta deal with it, deal

907
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: with it.

908
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 2: People say you don't have to deal with social media.

909
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,800
Speaker 1: Yes you do. Even if you don't have it, everybody

910
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,240
Speaker 1: else don't have it, and they gonna post you. You'll

911
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 1: have to have social media get posted. You have to

912
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: have social media for people talk about you. To me,

913
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,919
Speaker 1: I'm big believer in that. If it's existing, I'm gonna

914
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 1: learn how to coexist with it.

915
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 2: I'm gonna learn how to defeat it. I'm gonna learn

916
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 2: how to not let it get to me. That's all

917
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 2: I'm saying, y'all. I ain't saying live online.

918
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, when online talk trash about you go

919
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: like this on borning. The trolls win when they get

920
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 1: under your thin skin, and perhaps the one deleting their

921
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:22,399
Speaker 1: social media is the.

922
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 2: Troll right, Yes, well your thin skin.

923
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: If you can't, if you can't have a profile to

924
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,959
Speaker 1: show all your friends from third grade, all your friends

925
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 1: from college that you ain't gonna group text all of them.

926
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 1: You ain't gonna call them all, you ain't gonna email

927
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 1: them all. You got this platform all of us have

928
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: where your friends could check in. Do you know how

929
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: we went to the funeral in Canada? Every single family

930
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 1: member kept coming up to me saying, oh my god,

931
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 1: it looks so fun what you guys were up to.

932
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 1: Oh my god, MJ playing football looks amazing. I love

933
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 1: like you think I'm texting them using up my international

934
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:57,479
Speaker 1: red surmon on them.

935
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,240
Speaker 2: No, I'm not so stop it.

936
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 1: It's a rough time to be named either Russell or

937
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 1: Wilson in sports these days.

938
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 2: Everybody hates you.

939
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: Some of it not warranted facts, mister wildy, Zach Wilson

940
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 1: is closer to being out the league than being a

941
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 1: good quarterback. You ain't lying, But he's still close to

942
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 1: being a good quarterback. But you're right closer to in

943
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,919
Speaker 1: out the league. Butter or jelly on that toast, he's

944
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 1: toast three years the team was wearing Mike White My

945
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 1: quarterback T shirts last year. There's a reason why they

946
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:27,280
Speaker 1: went after a damn near forty year old Rogers. Facts. Facts,

947
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,280
Speaker 1: But you know, I'm positive, y'all. I believe the children

948
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: are our future. Thank you, Lou Hoats. Maybe Coach Day

949
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 1: needed some motivation material. I watched the interview and I

950
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: considered it comedy. It wasn't that serious. Speaking of Lou Hoas,

951
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 1: have you caught his rebuttal of Day's rant. It's hilarious

952
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: as well. Dag lou Holst got jokes. He one of

953
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: those dudes that got to like those, uh, those those jokes,

954
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 1: those joke book jokes. But he can just keep rapid

955
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 1: firing them. I remember we used to work together. He

956
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 1: just what about this one? Marcella's I remember, I can't

957
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: remember Jack. I can't remember people now. I can't remember

958
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: people on my classes. I can't remember people on my team.

959
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 1: And he was like, YO, want to watch this joke.

960
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:07,839
Speaker 1: I was like, Blue Hols, you got a brain, bro,

961
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,879
Speaker 1: all right? Micah versus Tyreek Hill? Good for the game

962
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: gets you hype like a boxing match. Tyreek Hill is

963
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 1: a lion, but Parsons is one two We all know

964
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: Miami's gonna win that game, do we? Yeah, I would

965
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: bet if. I mean, I think they're their favorite. I

966
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 1: don't know they're gonna win. Talk about the Broncos getting

967
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 1: seventy hung on them after Champagne called the pass coach

968
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 1: the worst coaching job he's ever seen. You are the

969
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: head coach that was unacceptable. At least Nathaniel never got

970
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: seventy hung on them. I know, you know, I embarrassed.

971
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if Champagne married or single. You imagine

972
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: being in that house being his boo and he come

973
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 1: home and this ain't why he mad. He ain't as

974
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,280
Speaker 1: mad as they lost seventy to twenty as he stepped

975
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 1: in and said.

976
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 2: Somebody was worse than him that didn't lose that bad.

977
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 1: There is no escape, can't get it up wave dumping

978
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,760
Speaker 1: with them funky Rhyns where that from. There's no escape,

979
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: no escape. And if you was boo, you was just

980
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 1: sitting there on the side of the couch, you know

981
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:07,800
Speaker 1: you are. Your girl sit on the side of the

982
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: couch is looking at you, and she's just looking at you,

983
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: and you're looking straight ahead.

984
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 2: She's looking at you, and she's just looking like that's pathetic.

985
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 2: She ain't gonna say.

986
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 1: When your woman doesn't say anything to support you, you

987
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 1: know why, because she can't because she's thinking you're pathetic.

988
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 1: That's why I know it. When my wife does, I'm like,

989
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 1: damn done, say something good.

990
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:26,800
Speaker 2: She can't.

991
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: All right, y'all know, I'll we finished every show. We

992
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 1: finishing with a wily ism.

993
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

994
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 1: Living in the world where truth is gossip and lies

995
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: are gospel testified.

996
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 2: Why the way, no lie.

997
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: I'm seeing some of that in terms of when I

998
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: am giving candor candidly talking through situations, giving you ammunition, evidence,

999
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:00,919
Speaker 1: receipts that you're not privy to heaven. Some people would

1000
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 1: think that's gossip because it's the truth. Meanwhile, you'll watch

1001
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: somebody on television a lot of the asshole because I

1002
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 1: know I know, because I know them, and I know it. Dog.

1003
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 1: Do you know how many text messages that I still

1004
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 1: have that I will never ever, ever ever show y'all

1005
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: or tell you where it's from, but said one thing

1006
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 1: on that text and said something complete, not kind of different,

1007
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:28,240
Speaker 1: completely opposite on air. How many times I've been sitting

1008
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:30,800
Speaker 1: there talking to somebody and then at the end of

1009
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 1: the break, They say, all right, dog, so what you

1010
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 1: really feel?

1011
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 2: I was like, you punk to me what.

1012
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 1: I really feel? I just said it, all right.

1013
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:40,240
Speaker 2: What did you really feel?

1014
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:44,240
Speaker 1: Oh? Oh, I thought you were just saying that child please.

1015
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 1: So I'm like, man, people really out there like that dog.

1016
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 1: But they say it long enough and loud enough, y'all

1017
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: think it's true, and then that becomes gospel. And then

1018
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 1: when somebody comes through really with the truth, you think

1019
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 1: they lying and you think they gossiping. Ain't that crazy?

1020
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 1: Ain't that ain't they what they say? Fish full let

1021
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 1: It's just wild out here in these streets right now.

1022
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: So what we need is a better moral compass. What

1023
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 1: we need is more people speaking up. It's the cocktail party,

1024
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 1: it's the PC ness of our society. They are boxed

1025
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 1: people in to not say what they really feel. Case

1026
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 1: in point, somebody hit me yesterday and showed me this picture,

1027
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 1: and the picture was of a dude somewhere online.

1028
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:32,479
Speaker 2: Stressed out.

1029
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 1: It was two fathers stressed out because they just had

1030
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:38,720
Speaker 1: a baby from a surrogate. Two dudes had a baby,

1031
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 1: and one of the dudes was like stressed out, And

1032
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, what's the what's the problem. And

1033
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 1: then and then he was like, you don't see a

1034
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 1: problem in that, and they were going back on the

1035
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: group text. He ain't do nothing, why he's stressed? And

1036
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, why you show me that you

1037
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:02,839
Speaker 1: know him? Won't you tell him that first? Now that's homie,

1038
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:05,879
Speaker 1: were friends like you, who needs enemies? Right?

1039
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,280
Speaker 2: Like, it's crazy, man, you're telling me all this smoking.

1040
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 1: We group text about it all like, look, he looks

1041
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 1: tired from a marathon. He didn't run right, check his

1042
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 1: shoes they clean. I get it, But why are you

1043
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: telling me first and not him? You want to know why?

1044
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 1: Because we're living in the world where truth is gossip

1045
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 1: and the lies are gospel. People get shook telling somebody

1046
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: the real because they're gonna be looked at like, uh man,

1047
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: we don't got so used to just b essen that

1048
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:35,839
Speaker 1: we don't know the real from the face. So make

1049
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 1: sure that you are not a part of this world,

1050
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 1: or do your damn best, because I know how it goes.

1051
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:41,800
Speaker 2: There's always that social pressure.

1052
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 1: Why you over here keeping they won you know what

1053
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 1: I mean? But just know that we're living in the

1054
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 1: world where truth is gossip and lies are gospel.

1055
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 2: All right, y'all got to do it.

1056
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 1: For More to It, check the show notes for all

1057
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:55,760
Speaker 1: the information on our topics today.

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Speaker 2: Today, I want to keep the conversation going. Let's talk.

1059
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 2: Find me on all socials at Marcel's.

1060
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Speaker 1: Wiley More Too is a production of Dan Patrick Production

1061
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 1: that Dude Entertainment and workhouse Media. Show is executive produced

1062
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 1: by Dan Patrick, Marcello's Whally, Paul Anderson, and Nick Panella.

1063
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1064
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Speaker 1: membership to Wiley's World on YouTube. Keep it coming because

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Speaker 1: there's more coming from More to It. Talk to y'all.

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Speaker 2: Hellison