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Speaker 1: Hi, This is Rob Thompson and welcome to the Philly Show.

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Speaker 2: Hi everybody, Rubin Tomorrow, Junior, Jim Salisbury, Todd's a lucky

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Speaker 2: It's the Philly Show, brought to you by the foul

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Speaker 2: Territory Network.

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Speaker 3: It is Monday, March tenth, twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Hope everybody is doing well, Rubin, Jim, are you guys

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Speaker 2: doing doing great?

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Speaker 3: Todd Potter, I love it.

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Speaker 2: I love we got a little we got a little

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Speaker 2: virtual fist bump from Jim and Rubin.

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Speaker 3: I love it. I love it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Back, I'm back in Clearwater. Went home for the weekend.

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Speaker 2: Flew back late last night. It's a little dreary in

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Speaker 2: Clearwater today, a little rain on the field. But Zach

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Speaker 2: Wheeler and Hayesus Lazaro we're supposed to throw a little

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Speaker 2: intersquad game here at Bake hair ballparking a little bit,

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Speaker 2: so that would be kind of fun to watch some

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Speaker 2: of the guys go up against Wheeler and Lozardo. But

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Speaker 2: we do have some news today, got some news yesterday.

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Speaker 3: And figure wet. Let's start there.

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Speaker 2: Matt Strom has a shoulder issue. He has been shut

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Speaker 2: down from throwing until at least Thursday, when doctor Cohen

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Speaker 2: will examine him, but he's I talked with Matt Strom

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Speaker 2: Monday morning in the clubhouse here at Bay Care and

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Speaker 2: basically said he's got an impingement in his left shoulder

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Speaker 2: and it's caused some inflammation.

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Speaker 3: He says he doesn't feel any pain when he's.

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Speaker 2: Throwing, he does feel some discomfort or it's tougher for

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Speaker 2: him to recover.

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Speaker 3: So he said that right now he could not do

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Speaker 3: it back to back.

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Speaker 2: No structural damage according to the MRI, but he's being

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Speaker 2: shut down, and I think it's safe to say that

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Speaker 2: it's unclear if he'll be ready by opening day. But

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Speaker 2: team has kind of avoided the injury bugs so far

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Speaker 2: this CAM, so this is really the first hiccup that

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Speaker 2: they've had.

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Speaker 3: What's your I guess.

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Speaker 2: Early impressions or thoughts on Matt Strom and his shoulder injury,

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Speaker 2: how to play it and how it can kind of

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Speaker 2: create a ripple effect in the Phillies bullpen.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's good one one that ha's happened now because

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Speaker 4: it's fairly early, and if I was sitting in the

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Speaker 4: GM seat or the assistant GM seed, I'd be Okay,

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Speaker 4: let's back off, let's make sure that we get this

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Speaker 4: totally corrected. Don't rush into it, don't worry about making

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Speaker 4: opening day. Make sure you get this right because it's

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Speaker 4: something that could linger for a while, impingements who knows.

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Speaker 4: Hopefully it's something that's fairly mild and that he can,

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Speaker 4: you know, bounce back from it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's an important piece of this bullpen. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there was not.

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Speaker 4: A lot done in the bullpen other than you know,

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Speaker 4: picking up Jordan Romano. They it is a little bit

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Speaker 4: of a concern. I love the fact that Alvarado's throwing

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Speaker 4: the ball extremely well with a lot of confidence right now.

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Speaker 4: That's big for this pen. But there are some questions

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Speaker 4: about the pen, so it's a little bit of a concern.

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Speaker 4: So you have to be concerned about it a little bit.

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Speaker 4: But I'm glad they're sort of nipping it in the butt,

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Speaker 4: and I'm sure that they'll be super conservative.

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Speaker 1: Especially early. They have him on a long term contract.

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Speaker 4: He's a very effective pitcher, pitched to a one era

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Speaker 4: last year, had an extraordinary season, and he's a really

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Speaker 4: important piece of the puzzle. So they'll be really conservative

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Speaker 4: about it. But it might also open up opportunities for

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Speaker 4: other guys. I mean you start thinking about, you know,

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Speaker 4: other pieces in the bullpen. Hopefully it's a problem having

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Speaker 4: you know too much pitching.

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Speaker 1: You know, you see that Taiwan Walker's throwing the ball.

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Speaker 4: Pretty well, he's improved. Is he going to be lights out? No?

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Speaker 4: Is He could be be helpful as a fourth or

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Speaker 4: fifth starter or a long guy. Ross has thrown okay,

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Speaker 4: other guys have thrown. Well, it's good to see Ranger

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Speaker 4: throw the well, so hey, who knows what's gonna happen

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Speaker 4: in a bullpen.

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Speaker 1: But again, you can never have enough pitching.

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Speaker 4: And I hope this is the If this is the

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Speaker 4: worst thing that happens out of spring training, that would

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Speaker 4: be a great thing. That's sort of why you hold

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Speaker 4: your breath every single time when you're the manager.

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Speaker 1: You're the GM during the course of the spring.

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Speaker 5: Well, I'd be concerned anytime a picture as his sore arm.

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Speaker 5: I mean, that's the tool of his trade. Any Time

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Speaker 5: a guy comes down sore minor major, you're concerned. And

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Speaker 5: you know, I agree with Ruben, you're gonna go. You've

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Speaker 5: gotta be aggressive in knocking it out of there. My

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Speaker 5: guess is because where we are in the month opening

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Speaker 5: day and coming on the twenty seventh, I would think

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Speaker 5: they're going to be super slow and he may not

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Speaker 5: make it for opening day because you want to knock

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Speaker 5: it out of there. That but probably answers the Taiwan

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Speaker 5: Walker question, right. But you needed this to be nothing

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Speaker 5: because he's an important guy. You know, you lost the Steves,

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Speaker 5: you lost Hoffmann, you added Romano, but you know, essentially

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Speaker 5: your one leverage arm down and relying on, you know,

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Speaker 5: other guys to take steps forward. And he he was

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Speaker 5: a dynamo for this team last year subtwo era sixty

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Speaker 5: sixty five appearances, I think sixty four sixty five appearances.

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Speaker 5: You need this guy. Yeah, So you know, I hear impingement.

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Speaker 5: It's sort of a vague word to me. Sometimes you

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Speaker 5: never know what causes it. Romano was treated for an

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Speaker 5: impingement last year. He ended up having a cleanup, surgical cleanup.

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Speaker 5: You don't even want to think like that with Matt Strong.

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Speaker 5: Is that important? So you know, hopefully, hopefully two three

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Speaker 5: four weeks he's back dealing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so he said. I asked him, I said, did

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Speaker 3: you need a shot?

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Speaker 2: Did you need to get a shot at because he

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Speaker 2: talked about the inflammation said, no shots, just oral anti

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Speaker 2: inflammatories worked. Obviously, some treatment in the trainer's room shut

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Speaker 2: down from throwing again until at least Thursday, you know. Selfishly,

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Speaker 2: he said, you know, I want to come back as

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Speaker 2: soon as possibly.

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Speaker 3: He said. The words he.

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Speaker 2: Used were something along the lines they had to leash

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Speaker 2: the dog because I wanted to come out and I

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Speaker 2: want to keep going. But he's like, listen, Selfishly, I

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Speaker 2: want to come back as soon as possible, because he

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Speaker 2: has a seven and a half million dollar club option

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Speaker 2: that automatically vests if he throws sixty innings this season

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Speaker 2: and finishes with a clean physical at the end of

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Speaker 2: the season.

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Speaker 3: So he's like, selfishly, I want.

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Speaker 2: To be back as soon as possible because I want

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Speaker 2: to be in Philly next year, Like I want to

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Speaker 2: be a Philly He's like, I also think that this

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Speaker 2: team is destined for great things, so I want to

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Speaker 2: really be careful with this.

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Speaker 3: And I know this is it's a totally different injury.

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Speaker 2: But it kind of reminds me of a little bit

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Speaker 2: of Brad Lidge in O eight he had the knee cleanup. Again,

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Speaker 2: we're talking shoulder different than a knee cleanup, but I

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Speaker 2: remember you guys Rubin slow playing it, and I think

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Speaker 2: he made a miss. Like the first week or ten

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Speaker 2: days of the season. It was like, why are we

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Speaker 2: going to rush this guy back to you know, maybe

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Speaker 2: tweak something when he's not one hundred percent shut just

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Speaker 2: slow play it. Have him come back a week ten

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Speaker 2: days in the season in having a great season as

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Speaker 2: we all know. So maybe the same thing happens for

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Speaker 2: some and he seems to understand that he's not. He

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Speaker 2: seems like he's gonna begrudgingly follow what the trainers want,

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Speaker 2: where Rob Thompson wants, what Kaled Cotham wants. So it's

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Speaker 2: it's definitely something, uh, you know, to keep an eye on.

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Speaker 2: Of course, over the next few weeks to go ahead, you.

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Speaker 1: Think that there's you know this is there's precedence. Everybody

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Speaker 1: gets hurt.

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Speaker 4: There's no team that doesn't have injury issues and people

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Speaker 4: have to step up.

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Speaker 1: Tanner Banks has to step up, Alvarado has to step up.

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Speaker 4: I mean you just kind of kind of move the

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Speaker 1: And Tanner Banks is pretty effective pitcher. I mean, he's

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Speaker 1: pretty darn good.

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Speaker 4: We seem to forget about him a little bit because

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Speaker 4: he's been he's pitched in mostly lower leverage situations. But

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Speaker 4: the guy can pitch a little bit and he's gonna

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Speaker 4: have to step up Alvarado as well.

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Speaker 2: You talk about, you know, just a lot of teams

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Speaker 2: dealing with the injury bug. So if Strom does open

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Speaker 2: the season on the injured list, I think, naturally, right,

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Speaker 2: there's some non roster guys in camp that have some

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Speaker 3: Nick Vesty comes to mind. He's pitched with the Orioles.

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Speaker 2: But guys on the forty man that could potentially be

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Speaker 2: that eighth man in the bullpen, now I would think.

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Speaker 2: I mean Taiwan Walker was already trending, I think to

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Speaker 2: make the team. But you have Devin Sweets on the

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Speaker 2: forty men roster, Michael Mercado is on the forty men roster.

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Speaker 3: They're kind of turning.

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Speaker 2: Him into a reliever, and Alain ron Hell is also

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Speaker 3: They kind of like as a swingman type of guy.

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Speaker 2: So maybe a situation presents itself from one of those

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Speaker 2: guys to step up to open the season at least,

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Speaker 2: Devin Sweet, he's pitched pretty well this Spring's got a

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Speaker 2: real nice change up, so something to keep an eye

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Speaker 2: and again and when you talk about options and what

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Speaker 2: they can do in the short term, if Strom does

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Speaker 2: missiles first seven to ten days.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Devin Sweet, that's a really interesting name for me,

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Speaker 4: because you know, you want to if you lose a

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Speaker 4: left hander in Strom, do you want a guy who's

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Speaker 4: a little bit more effective against lefties. That change up

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Speaker 4: that he has the Bugs Bundy type change up could

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Speaker 4: be a pitch that would be effective against left handers.

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Speaker 4: It really it's a matter of him throwing consistent strikes.

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Speaker 4: He's had trouble doing that at the.

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Speaker 1: Major league level.

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Speaker 4: He's I guess he's had some experience there, but one

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Speaker 4: of his issues has been about consistent strikes. His strikeout

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Speaker 1: Got some stuff going on there.

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Speaker 5: If this is the only one the Phillies have to

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Speaker 2: Hey guys, it's Monday, so let's look back at the week.

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Speaker 2: Best Week by Manco and man Best Week presented by

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Speaker 2: Manco and Mango Pizza, the best of the best. I

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Speaker 3: Where's because I can't play golf.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's better to go at least look good while

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Speaker 1: I like it, man, I need a little another little

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is this is very nice. I do enjoy

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw Chuck Bangle was here from Manco last

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Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, Best Best Week by Manco Manco first episode.

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Speaker 2: Every week throughout the season, we're gonna pick our best

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Speaker 3: Play whatever you want to do. Uh, does anybody want

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Speaker 2: Did Jim you want to fire off your your choice

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Speaker 5: Sure? You know I might go with Alec Bohm. You know,

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Speaker 1: Like the way he's throwing, that's great stuff.

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Speaker 1: He is my best of the week.

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Speaker 4: He's not really a pen guy. That's not what he's

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Speaker 5: So I think their ears are wide open on a trade.

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Speaker 5: I don't. I think they would move him in a heartbeat.

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Speaker 5: It's a question of you're gonna have to eat some right,

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Speaker 2: How do you feel like if you're so if you're

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Speaker 3: You think?

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Speaker 4: I think they have to be realistic. Listen, he hasn't

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Speaker 4: It, and I mean, I don't give them the guy away,

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Speaker 4: But if you if you relieve yourself of that financial burden, now,

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 4: You don't know what's going to happen as we creep

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Speaker 4: to have starters to win.

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Speaker 1: Amazing they are.

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Speaker 5: Not, you know, in a position of strength with Taiwan Walker.

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Speaker 5: I mean, the other twenty nine teams witnessed, you know,

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Speaker 5: his season last year. They are well aware of the

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Speaker 5: narrative that whether or not the Philly is considered releasing

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Speaker 5: him or whatever last year. They're just well aware of

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Speaker 5: his tenuous position on the roster. They're well aware of

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Speaker 5: the financial commitment and how that shackles a little bit,

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Speaker 5: even a team with a three hundred plus million dollar payroll.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, if they didn't have that eighteen

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Speaker 5: million dollar commitment this winter, what would this winter have

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Speaker 5: looked like? Would they have been in on some of

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Speaker 5: those other free agents? I have to think so, right,

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Speaker 5: So it was, you know, it was an million dollar

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Speaker 5: handcuff this winter, and other teams are aware of that.

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Speaker 5: I just don't think they're in a position of strength.

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Speaker 5: I think you kind of take what you can get

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Speaker 5: and and you wish him well if that opportunity comes,

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Speaker 5: and if it doesn't, he becomes the last guy in

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Speaker 5: your bullpen. And you know, you as a mop up guy,

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Speaker 5: you hope he's in there when you're leading ten to

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Speaker 5: one a lot instead of behind ten to one, because

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Speaker 5: you just don't want to behind be behind ten to one.

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Speaker 1: I did want to.

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Speaker 4: Say something about the effort that the Phillies put in,

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Speaker 4: and obviously it's a big investment because it's a lot

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Speaker 4: of money.

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Speaker 1: But for them to and for Taiwan Walker to put

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Speaker 1: the work in this offseason to get him to this point,

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Speaker 1: it'd be you know easy to say, hey, just you know,

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Speaker 1: go about your business and get yourself ready and we'll

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Speaker 1: figure it out.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Really important that you know.

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Speaker 4: I don't know who it was, whether cess or Ramos,

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Speaker 4: or was Caleb Cotham or you know, accommodation of those

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Speaker 4: guys who went out there to work with him to

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Speaker 4: get it done, to get him to the place. You know,

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Speaker 4: maybe it was a more of a physical thing. Some

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Speaker 4: people in the strengthen, uh, you know conditioning program, all

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Speaker 4: those people that were involved.

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Speaker 1: I think it was a great thing.

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Speaker 4: It was very thoughtful and hopefully it'll come to fruition

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Speaker 4: for them and it seems to be making an impact,

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Speaker 4: which is big.

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Speaker 2: So we were going to today we're going to do

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Speaker 2: questions from you guys, viewers and listeners to the show,

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Speaker 2: but because of the Strom stuff, we decided to kind

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Speaker 2: of switch things up, so we are going to still

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Speaker 2: do answer your questions. So keep them coming Twitter, Blue Sky, Threads, Facebook, Instagram, keep.

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Speaker 3: Firing off questions. We'll answer them later this week.

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Speaker 2: So we want to do that, and then real quick

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Speaker 2: before we go, I just want to mention what's going

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Speaker 2: on this week.

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Speaker 3: The Phillies are in Fort Myers Monday and Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: Today Monday against the Twins, Tomorrow against the Red Sox.

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Speaker 3: Seth Johnson Phillies prospects.

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Speaker 2: Seth Johnson is pitching today and Mick Ables is scheduled

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Speaker 2: to make his Greaper League debut tomorrow Tuesday against the

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Speaker 2: Red Sox.

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Speaker 3: He has not pitched at all this spring.

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Speaker 2: He was had an illness earlier in camp to kind

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Speaker 2: of knocked down a little bit. So in case you've

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Speaker 2: been wondering why mckabel has not pitched, that is why.

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Speaker 2: So he's going to pitch tomorrow and later this week.

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Speaker 2: Friday is the spring breakout game where the top Phillies

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Speaker 2: prospects are going to play the top Pirates prospects. And

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Speaker 2: I got to do I got to go to that

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Speaker 2: game last year over in Lakeland against the Tigers. It

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Speaker 2: was actually kind of cool.

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Speaker 3: It was a cool event.

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Speaker 2: He had Mickabel pitching, you had Aid Millard short justin

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Speaker 2: crawford and center field. You had Eduardo Taji behind the plate,

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Speaker 2: and so that was a lot of fun. So just

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Speaker 2: a couple of things to kind of keep eye on

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Speaker 2: this week and then again Thursday, Matt stroupshoud maybe have

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Speaker 2: a little bit more clarity on where he actually is

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Speaker 2: with his with his injured shoulders.

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Speaker 5: So you you mentioned Abel and Johnson pitching these next

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Speaker 5: two days. Two important guys organizationally, two very important guys.

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Speaker 5: Just based on the theme that we talk about all

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Speaker 5: the time, that Ruben talks all about it all the time,

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Speaker 5: the importance of starting pitching, importance of pitching depth. I mean,

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Speaker 5: two guys with good arms that have not put it

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Speaker 5: together yet, but you never know. So two important guys,

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Speaker 5: big seasons for them in the minor leagues. I wouldn't

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Speaker 5: be surprised if we saw both of them at some

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Speaker 5: point this season in the majors. But you know, this

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Speaker 5: is we talk about spring training being practice, but certain guys,

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Speaker 5: you know, it's a springboard into the regular season for them.

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Speaker 5: And these are two guys facing an important regular season,

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Speaker 5: important depth pieces, and if they pitch well this season,

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Speaker 5: take that next step, maybe they're more than depth pieces someday.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and he can't always be about one player. It

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Speaker 4: can't be about Andrew Painter. It can't be about him solely.

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Speaker 4: It has to be you know, you have to have

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Speaker 4: multiple guys, and they're getting closer and closer. They were

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Speaker 4: hoping maybe Mercado could be that guy. He kind of

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Speaker 4: fell off, fell off a little bit. Now he's probably

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Speaker 4: gonna end up being, you know, a bullpen guy. But hey,

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Speaker 4: the more arms the better, and it gives you the

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Speaker 4: percentages of the chances of getting a usable, viable major

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Speaker 4: league arm that can help you at the major league level.

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Speaker 4: You can't have enough of them, and hopefully those guys

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Speaker 4: can step forward.

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Speaker 2: And if they obviously if they trade Taiwan Walker at

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Speaker 2: some point, now they've become even more important.

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Speaker 3: So you know that's great point. Great point, guys. We'll

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Speaker 3: be back later this week. Keep those fire off those questions,

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Speaker 3: like I said, and we will tackle some of them

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Speaker 3: in our next episode.

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Speaker 1: Andy coming from clear Water next time. Boys, I'm coming down.

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Speaker 3: You're coming down? What day are you down here?

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Speaker 1: Down on Wednesday? Down on Wednesday?

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Speaker 5: The authorities.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I alert the folks there in Pellas County.

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Speaker 3: That's right, all right, guys, We'll take take it easy.

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Speaker 3: I'll talk to you later.

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Speaker 5: Stle boys.

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Speaker 1: You Jim.

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