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Speaker 2: What up with you? Good morning to you, Doug Gottlin,
Speaker 2: Dan Byer, I got Stewart and for dand of the
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Speaker 2: Year's Eve Day. That is a mouthful plus you know, uh,
Speaker 2: I love that game, Dan Bier. I can't wait to
Speaker 2: play that game. In terms of naming every champion and
Speaker 2: every award winner from everything in twenty four. We'll get
Speaker 2: back to that at the at the end of the hour.
Speaker 2: But we have Round two of the college football Playoffs
Speaker 2: getting underway tonight again, same time, same same idea as
Speaker 2: last time. Round one game today and then three tomorrow.
Speaker 2: I think this is the perfect bowl game, Fiesta Bowl game.
Speaker 2: Now look full disclosure, it's ridiculous that boy he gotta buy.
Speaker 2: Equally ridiculous that Arizona State wins the Big Twelve and
Speaker 2: they're not playing in Glendale. And as much you can say, well,
Speaker 2: that would be a that would be an unfair home
Speaker 2: field advantage. Like Okay, so neither Arizona State nor Boise
Speaker 2: State deserved to be a top four seed. But if
Speaker 2: they're going to be a top four seed and the
Speaker 2: difference is all that slight. Shouldn't you want to sell tickets?
Speaker 2: And if you sold tickets and I just saw online
Speaker 2: that tickets for Arizona State's game in but in Georgia
Speaker 2: are going for pennies on the dollar. So congratulations on
Speaker 2: screwing something up. That was pretty easy right there in
Speaker 2: front of you. But regardless of it, Dan, can I
Speaker 2: make the pitch to you of why I think this
Speaker 2: is the perfect game?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd love to hear it.
Speaker 2: Okay, So basically for the last I don't know, twenty
Speaker 2: five years or so, And obviously it got worse once
Speaker 2: we got the college football Playoff, the four team playoff.
Speaker 2: But remember we'd always have these bowl games. We had
Speaker 2: a whole Hawaii taking on who'd they get pummeled by
Speaker 2: in the Sugar Bowl? Is that Alabama?
Speaker 3: Georgia?
Speaker 2: Georgia? And the sugar planguage just bad?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: But also you had Boise take down Oklahoma in this
Speaker 2: in the Fiesta Bowl. That was the hook and ladder play, right.
Speaker 2: You had the Statue of Liberty. You had Chris Myers
Speaker 2: going Okay, now you're gonna ask your girlfriend to marry you? Like, dude,
Speaker 2: what are you doing anyway, like arguably one of the
Speaker 2: most famous upsets, and you'd always get from the side
Speaker 2: of the SEC, the side of the Big twelve, the
Speaker 2: side of the Big Ten, like, hey, it doesn't matter,
Speaker 2: come on, man, Like that's a bowl game. We get
Speaker 2: a swag bag, we had to ride roller coasters and
Speaker 2: have big dinner, and freshmen get to a more chance
Speaker 2: to work out, Like it's never really mattered to us, right,
Speaker 2: and there was no real payoff other than to say, hey,
Speaker 2: we won that bowl game, which is sort of bragging rights.
Speaker 2: But like you know, the SEC especially has had that
Speaker 2: like we love what you know, bowl games only matter
Speaker 2: when we win them. Well, now, the Big ten, who,
Speaker 2: let's just be honest, over the last twenty five years
Speaker 2: outside of Ohio State been pathetic in bowl games. Is
Speaker 2: that is that fair? Dan?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, right, Big ten. Considering the historic nature and
Speaker 2: success of Big ten programs generally, again I'm saying this
Speaker 2: is more generalization. Generally, the Big Ten has been pathetic in.
Speaker 3: Bold It's funny because there's a Big Ten guy I
Speaker 3: don't even know. I just went along with it, so
Speaker 3: I honestly I have no idea, but.
Speaker 2: Sure, okay, it's not an every year thing. I would
Speaker 2: say more often than not, regardless of KAY and the
Speaker 2: Big Ten is never has usually not been the conference
Speaker 2: like that doesn't matter to us, right, but the SEC
Speaker 2: has been it doesn't These games don't matter. Well, this
Speaker 2: one matters, Okay. You have that same Cinderella type story
Speaker 2: in Boise State, granted dramatically overseated, and they get the
Speaker 2: benefit of not having to play last weekend so they're fresh, they'rearrested.
Speaker 2: This is the best that boy is going to have.
Speaker 2: And proximity wise, you know, you get on a Southwest
Speaker 2: flight or what's that other airline that you can actually
Speaker 2: go into Masa with, But Masa's on the other side
Speaker 2: of the earth from Glendale anyway. Point is, they'll have
Speaker 2: a great crowd, a great chance to win against big
Speaker 2: bad Penn State, and Penn State cannot say it doesn't
Speaker 2: matter to us, because this is all that matters. So
Speaker 2: you have the you know in basketball, you'd have the bracketbuster,
Speaker 2: the high major versus the mid major. You finally actually
Speaker 2: have that in college football for a chance to go
Speaker 2: to the Fountal four. I think it's kind of sweet
Speaker 2: that as much as they screwed up a lot of it.
Speaker 2: And again, like I even think Penn State's kind of overseated,
Speaker 2: and and we're making a bigger thing about Penn State,
Speaker 2: Who's Okay, they're not great, but you get a chance
Speaker 2: for the real everyone who went to a school that's
Speaker 2: not a power for school, anyone who's ever felt slighted
Speaker 2: felt like they belonged. And even Heck Mile muttered Oklahoma
Speaker 2: State where you know, you go back to the brand
Speaker 2: Whedon team that won was that the twenty twelve I
Speaker 2: think Fiesta Bowl right there was that they couldn't get
Speaker 2: into the national championship game and lose to an Iowa
Speaker 2: State on a missfield goal. Right, even those ones like
Speaker 2: the overlooked non name brand teams now are gonna be
Speaker 2: rooting for Boise And you got the Big Ten and
Speaker 2: Penn State and all their tradition coming in. And you know,
Speaker 2: of course, we know James Franklin always takes you know,
Speaker 2: catching strays for not beating ranked teams. It's kind of
Speaker 2: a no win for James Franklin. They win, they're supposed
Speaker 2: to be Boise State. They lose. While it's going to
Speaker 2: be ugly in state college, I think it's like the
Speaker 2: perfect game, perfect game on a New Year's Eve.
Speaker 3: I and I can completely accept that. And I just
Speaker 3: wonder if there is a bit of a letdown from
Speaker 3: what we had in the first opening games because you
Speaker 3: mentioned the ticket prices, and by the by the way,
Speaker 3: the Big Twelve was supposed to go to the Fiesta Bowl.
Speaker 3: But what happened is that Boise State just ended up
Speaker 3: again the fruits of being higher in the rankings. Because
Speaker 3: they ended up being higher, they got placed in the
Speaker 3: Fiesta Bowl in that closer region, which put Arizona State.
Speaker 3: But I think the Big Twelve was under the assumption
Speaker 3: that if it was BYU, if it was Colorado, if
Speaker 3: it was Arizona State, that they likely would have gotten
Speaker 3: to play in the Fiesta Bowl. But that's why they
Speaker 3: ended up in the Peach Bowl, because Boise State was higher.
Speaker 3: But to your point, Doug, I look at the basketball tournament,
Speaker 3: the final fours, the sweet sixteens, and what do we love.
Speaker 3: We love a little bit of Cinderella and then we
Speaker 3: want it good at the end, and we'll probably get
Speaker 3: that in this college football playoff. But the question is
Speaker 3: is how much do we want do we want Boise
Speaker 3: State to win this game? Do we want Boise State
Speaker 3: to go and play Georgia or Notre Dame in the
Speaker 3: semi final. I'm not sure. I can't even tell you
Speaker 3: right now, as crazy as it sounds. And that's why
Speaker 3: I think after these games, despite the first ones being blowouts,
Speaker 3: there was something new, there was something unique about it.
Speaker 3: And yeah, whether it's Alabama or LSU or you know, SMU,
Speaker 3: excuse me, I'm not worried about it. But I don't
Speaker 3: know where that medium, that happy medium is that we've
Speaker 3: kind of figured out in the men's you know, NCAA tournament,
Speaker 3: and I think it's going to take a little time.
Speaker 3: This one off tonight could be a great way to
Speaker 3: start it, and then it leads into the to the
Speaker 3: Arizona State Texas game tomorrow. But yeah, I don't have
Speaker 3: a read. I don't know if I would feel differently
Speaker 3: if it was, say, you know, Penn State against Alabama,
Speaker 3: as crazy as that sounds, because of what we have
Speaker 3: with Oregon and Ohio State and Notre Dame in Georgia,
Speaker 3: I don't know if we need Alabama, but I can
Speaker 3: see where you're coming from. I just want to find
Speaker 3: that happy medium that I don't know where it's at
Speaker 3: because this is so new.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd say this. I think if Boise were to
Speaker 2: win tonight, if Boys were to win tonight, I think
Speaker 2: next week is the perfect example of why all of
Speaker 2: us know Boise can't win this thing. They just can't.
Speaker 2: Just the attrition of playing a big boy and then
Speaker 2: you play a real big boy next week, you just
Speaker 2: you get so beat up and so worn down you do.
Speaker 2: I think what's the other interesting element to it is,
Speaker 2: again it's not as much this week as it is
Speaker 2: for the next game. Is like once these teams that
Speaker 2: have had to play the extra game, like that's Notre
Speaker 2: Dame loses with their best defensive linemen, Like you're gonna
Speaker 2: lose a guy in every game. Now. The difference in
Speaker 2: the Georgia's, to a lesser extent, Notre Dame, but the
Speaker 2: Super the Ohio States of the world is they do
Speaker 2: have a depth of talent that the other schools don't.
Speaker 2: Just that's what the money does. For people who haven't
Speaker 2: listened to The Doug Gottlieb Show. It airs every afternoon
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Speaker 2: Nets today. This is you're seeing it in college basketball,
Speaker 2: and I think the truth is it's really right there
Speaker 2: in college football. I know it's hard for you to
Speaker 2: conceptualize how could Alabama lose to Vandy, lose to Oklahoma?
Speaker 2: Just the attrition of playing the best competition week in
Speaker 2: week out is completely different. It's just it's a different
Speaker 2: sport and they're dealing with a different salary cap. Even Indiana,
Speaker 2: who I didn't think belonged in the field and got
Speaker 2: thoroughly undressed, the fact is that Indiana did spend a
Speaker 2: ton of money. Like you don't always get a championship
Speaker 2: team when you put a bunch of money together for
Speaker 2: these college Rostersay, but more often than not you do.
Speaker 2: And it's just a depth of athletes at those schools
Speaker 2: because they have substantially more money, you know. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's really really it. I mean, I'm just I'm not
Speaker 2: I'm not complaining about my situation. I took a job
Speaker 2: late knowing okay, all of the pitfalls, but I was just,
Speaker 2: you know, before we started the show, I mean when
Speaker 2: my assistant's office, like man could have had that. There's
Speaker 2: a dude who we were recruiting. It was late, he
Speaker 2: was available, we didn't get and my sistans like, why
Speaker 2: didn't we get him? And I was like, we didn't
Speaker 2: have the cheddar. It was just too much money for us.
Speaker 2: Just was like, that's the reality to it. And yeah,
Speaker 2: they're better, they got more money. They're supposed to be better,
Speaker 2: you know. So I'm not an SEC alumn, I'm not
Speaker 2: an SEC wonk, but I also know how this deal works,
Speaker 2: and I think it's going to get worse before it
Speaker 2: gets better in terms of the disparity between the SEC
Speaker 2: and to a little slightly lesser extent, the Big ten
Speaker 2: and everybody else because they just make more money. They
Speaker 2: have more money. And again, now next year you can
Speaker 2: bring it in house, you know, and pay and have
Speaker 2: the players under an nil contract from the university. And
Speaker 2: those universities have more money. They don't just make money
Speaker 2: on that. Everybody says the TV deal. TV deal is great,
Speaker 2: but that makes sure all the lights are on, all
Speaker 2: the pretty things or whatever. They can make one hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty million dollars a year off of their stadiums.
Speaker 2: They have bigger stadiums that are always filled and they
Speaker 2: and then then you get into all the other stuff.
Speaker 2: So they it's just the idea that you're really you're
Speaker 2: going to be competitive three weeks a row with teams
Speaker 2: that have, you know, five to ten to twenty x.
Speaker 2: The spending of what you have is it's really kind
Speaker 2: of silly when you think about it. Now, in a
Speaker 2: one game scenario, can you pull it off? Yeah, boys,
Speaker 2: you can beat Penn State, But can they beat Penn
Speaker 2: State and then beat Georgia and then beat somebody else. No.
Speaker 3: To Brett McMurphy's report yesterday from the Action that works
Speaker 3: in that the committee is going to look at the
Speaker 3: bracket and possibly change the conference winners getting the automatic
Speaker 3: bids like Boise State did and Arizona State did that
Speaker 3: you would still go with the rankings at least at
Speaker 3: some point to give your top four buys. You would
Speaker 3: give them the automatic bid to the tournament, but they
Speaker 3: wouldn't get the buy, which could change as soon as
Speaker 3: next year if everyone's on board, and I'm curious on
Speaker 3: why the Big twelve or the Mountain West would want
Speaker 3: to be on board with this. But again at the
Speaker 3: SEC and the Big ten are playing hardball for future
Speaker 3: agreements that could possibly change. But I think that Boise
Speaker 3: State actually has a different field, Dug. And this is
Speaker 3: why it's difficult. And I don't know if Boise State
Speaker 3: would have won in the quarterfinals or excuse me, one
Speaker 3: in the first round and now is on a streak
Speaker 3: going into this Bowl game. Here, it almost seems like
Speaker 3: the cinderella run into the semi final is just too
Speaker 3: far when you get down to the final four, and
Speaker 3: I wonder if it would have been more fulfilling to
Speaker 3: see to see that sort of advancement by a Boise
Speaker 3: State team, you know what I mean, like to have
Speaker 3: them win a first round game, they become then the
Speaker 3: story where right now they haven't even played a game,
Speaker 3: and there isn't even the feel for Cinderella, and it's
Speaker 3: almost difficult to find them as a Cinderella considering that
Speaker 3: they are going to be the higher seeded team and
Speaker 3: wearing the home uniforms today against Penn State. So it's
Speaker 3: it's just it's very very odd, and I feel that
Speaker 3: the role of the Cinderella would likely be fit better
Speaker 3: if that new format was put in in Boise State
Speaker 3: ended up winning a first round game to.
Speaker 2: Dam Patrick show Fox Sports treaties Dan Byrum Doug Gottlieb.
Speaker 2: Let's let's get a little as we recap twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2: On New Year's Eve Day, we play little they say what?
Speaker 2: They said? What?
Speaker 3: Wait a minute, they said what? Doug.
Speaker 4: I just I found a gift for our listeners. I
Speaker 4: wasn't able to afford buying gifts for all our listeners,
Speaker 4: so but I wanted to give them the gift of sound.
Speaker 4: And I think this might be my favorite. This might
Speaker 4: be the best piece of sound from the year twenty
Speaker 4: twenty four. Was it twenty twenty four?
Speaker 3: It's two ten thousand, Yeah, only eighteen thousand years off.
Speaker 4: Andrew Reese wanted to kind of sum up the impact
Speaker 4: that her and Caitlin Clark had on the world of
Speaker 4: women's college basketball. And this is a real gym.
Speaker 5: It all started from the National Championship game. And I've
Speaker 5: been dealing with this for two years now and understanding, like, yeah,
Speaker 5: negative things have probably been said about me, but honestly,
Speaker 5: I'll take that because look where women's basketball is. People
Speaker 5: are talking about women's basketball. You've never would think that
Speaker 5: we talk about women's basketball. People are pulling up to games,
Speaker 5: We got celebrities coming to games. Aughterina is like just
Speaker 5: because of one single game and just looking at that like,
Speaker 5: I'll take that role. I'll take the bad guy role,
Speaker 5: and I'll continue to take that on and be that
Speaker 5: for that for my teammates and if I want to
Speaker 5: be that, and I know I'll go down to history.
Speaker 5: I'll look back in twenty years and be like, Yeah,
Speaker 5: the reason why we watch O women's basketball is not
Speaker 5: just because of one person.
Speaker 1: It's because of me too.
Speaker 5: And I want you to.
Speaker 2: Hey, I was in that game too. People don't like me,
Speaker 2: That's why they watch.
Speaker 3: What's so great is the whole WNBA was was like
Speaker 3: trying to go against Caitlyn Clark, and there's this whole
Speaker 3: ground swell of look at what Look at what Asia
Speaker 3: Wilson has done.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, look and why are we not talking
Speaker 2: more about Asia Wilson?
Speaker 3: Yeah, look at look at the other you know, Maya Moore,
Speaker 3: all these other players at Leasta Leslie, all that they've
Speaker 3: done for the you know, for the W and Cheryl
Speaker 3: Swoops and Cynthia Cooper, all these great players which I
Speaker 3: think that we do recognize yet hear Angel Reese is like, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's none of them, It's none of them. You want
Speaker 3: to give it to Kaitlyn Clark, but it's also me, oh,
Speaker 3: just magnificent, magnificent sound like.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys watched the I watched
Speaker 2: all the Christmas Day games, and there was one thing
Speaker 2: that was was interesting was even though it was the NBA,
Speaker 2: we saw like State Farm replaced Chris Paul with I
Speaker 2: don't know who the WNBA player was the game was on.
Speaker 2: I was working in my office at the time, and
Speaker 2: many of the WNBA stars. Asia Wilson now is in
Speaker 2: a Nike Nike AD, sure, right, a Nike AD And
Speaker 2: just it's one of those things where like at some
Speaker 2: point you have to you have to realize the league
Speaker 2: did exist for twenty five years and no one in
Speaker 2: the mainstream paid attention until Kitlyn Clark came around. I
Speaker 2: don't know why that's a bad thing, Why people can't
Speaker 2: accept it, why people can't realize it that you know
Speaker 2: you fall in love with, Like Taylor Swift is not
Speaker 2: the world's greatest singer. You know the world's greatest songwriter,
Speaker 2: right anyone? I'm not anyone would tell you that that
Speaker 2: Bob Dylan is fifteen times whatever she's ever been. But
Speaker 2: she's a billionaire and she can only bring positive attention
Speaker 2: to females in music. And the more you fight it,
Speaker 2: the more you look like an idiot. Well, same thing
Speaker 2: here with Caitlyn Clerk, you know, like she's a thing,
Speaker 2: she's made, she's made to where the couple of things
Speaker 2: that that angel Re said are accurate, Like I've been
Speaker 2: doing this job for over twenty years, Okay, outside of
Speaker 2: the Imus deal with Rutgers, Like, we never talked about
Speaker 2: women's basketball ever, and it wasn't because we hate it
Speaker 2: or don't like it, it's just nobody cared. Nobody cared,
Speaker 2: and we talked about it more this year in twenty
Speaker 2: four and then we talked probably about baseball, which had
Speaker 2: a fifty to fifty guy and now two seven hundred
Speaker 2: million dollar contracts and the Dodgers beat the Yankees. Definitely,
Speaker 2: we didn't utter a word about hockey. Then do they
Speaker 2: still play hockey?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: So she's right, but the hey it's me, I'm hey
Speaker 2: me either reason.
Speaker 5: Like history, I'll look back at twenty years and be like, yeah,
Speaker 5: the reason why we watch that women's basketball is not
Speaker 5: just because of one person, it's because of me too.
Speaker 3: And I went that was more a slap in the
Speaker 3: face to any current or former w NBA player than anything.
Speaker 3: Caitlyn Clark did that comment there like no, it was
Speaker 3: it was also it was it was me. It wasn't
Speaker 3: to you guys. Caitlyn Clark at least is given credit
Speaker 3: to the to those of the past.
Speaker 4: That one she told on herself and spent over backwards
Speaker 4: almost pandering to no.
Speaker 2: Now she she's gotten to have to had to pander.
Speaker 2: She's it sucks, she's had to pander.
Speaker 4: It's not just one person, it's two.
Speaker 2: It's not just it's not just one person. It's me.
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Speaker 3: That's a that's a good synopsis. I don't know if
Speaker 3: that's all of who I am.
Speaker 2: No, there's a lot more, you know, father, husband, Avid Golfer,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of other things. I get to the
Speaker 2: prices right thing, because I do think that New Year's
Speaker 2: is the only holiday that violates the core tenants of
Speaker 2: the price is right. Like I say this all the time,
Speaker 2: Like by the last couple of days, I've seen people,
Speaker 2: I'm like, hey, merry Christmas, and they look at you
Speaker 2: like you have two heads. Like Christmas is just a
Speaker 2: couple of days ago. It's okay. But people look at
Speaker 2: holidays for the most part and it's prices right. Rules.
Speaker 2: You can't go over. Once you go over, it's over,
Speaker 2: except for New Year's because New Year's you can kind
Speaker 2: of go like, hey, happy New Year. You get a
Speaker 2: couple of extra days before you then then you seem weird.
Speaker 2: Once you get to like January sixth, you're like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I get it, like we did the New Year's thing. Anyway,
Speaker 2: Happy New Year to you, even before it's actually New
Speaker 2: Year's it's New Year's Eve Day morning. That's a mouthful.
Speaker 2: Charles Robinson joins us from Yahoo Sports. Okay, so I'm
Speaker 2: gonna play for you, what Dan Campbell said after the
Speaker 2: game as to his logic in playing his starters, and
Speaker 2: then I want your thoughts, Charles. Here, here's Dan Campbell
Speaker 2: after the win last night.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was on my mind, you know. I mean
Speaker 7: I thought a lot about it, you know, I thought
Speaker 7: about it leading up to the game. I thought about
Speaker 7: it last night. I told the staff. But I ended
Speaker 7: up settling on the right thing to do was play
Speaker 7: these guys, and because we owed it to the team,
Speaker 7: you know, and it was just one of those those
Speaker 7: positions we were in. It's just hard to say who
Speaker 7: you're gonna sit. And it's not fair to ask guys
Speaker 7: to play that haven't been prepared to play, you.
Speaker 2: Know, Charles, your thoughts.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, look, I they took risk, they got
Speaker 8: through it. There's some luck involved that nobody got hurt.
Speaker 8: I mean, at one point last night, you watch a
Speaker 8: Monaa Saint Brown like kind of tweak his foot and
Speaker 8: he's hopping. You're thinking, oh God, here we go. You know,
Speaker 8: Penny Steel, I think at one point hurt his hand,
Speaker 8: you know, goes in the locker room a few seconds
Speaker 8: early at halftime. So you know, you can definitely nitpick
Speaker 8: the logic. The reality is they got out of it healthy.
Speaker 8: I do see some of the in terms of preparing
Speaker 8: the starters to play this game and then sticking a
Speaker 8: hend and Hooker in there when he's got no starting
Speaker 8: snaps for this, where it's you know, he's been running
Speaker 8: scout team. He was not prepping for this or the
Speaker 8: game plan itself. Is there some danger to that? Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 8: there's no question about it. But you know, I I
Speaker 8: think if they were being completely honest, and I think
Speaker 8: Dan touched on this a little bit, I think there's
Speaker 8: some score settling. I think they wanted to beat San Francisco.
Speaker 2: I don't doubt it. But what what do you what like?
Speaker 2: That's just all ego like why it does nothing for you?
Speaker 2: The only thing it does is it runs the risk
Speaker 2: of somebody getting hurt for the game that matters, and
Speaker 2: then if you win the game, that you win.
Speaker 8: Honestly, Doug, I don't, Doug, I don't want to do that.
Speaker 8: I don't want to do this whole thing, make this
Speaker 8: a big thing. Afterward, it's over like they made it there.
Speaker 8: It doesn't matter. Like you're you're you're you're dressing forty
Speaker 8: five for the game regardless, right, I mean, you're gonna
Speaker 8: play forty five, So pick the guys. Pick the guys
Speaker 8: who you're not gonna play. So you're gonna you're gonna say, okay,
Speaker 8: here's here's the inactive. We have a limited number of inactive.
Speaker 8: And then on top of that, we gotta pluck what
Speaker 8: another ten who were not gonna play? Okay, so you're
Speaker 8: gonna get through the game with thirty five game guys,
Speaker 8: you're gonna get through the game thirty five guys? What
Speaker 8: offensive lineman are you picking? And how can those offensive
Speaker 8: linemen do a job when they're now standing next to
Speaker 8: other backups? A backup quarterback, maybe a backup running back.
Speaker 8: Oh geez, you know Tim Patrick? Now is your number one? Like,
Speaker 8: what are you doing here?
Speaker 2: Okay, but let me tell them matter but Charles, let
Speaker 2: me it's the micro for the macro, right, and just
Speaker 2: just full disclosure. So I got to do one sideline
Speaker 2: game for Fox for for Big Fox for TV, right,
Speaker 2: and it was Dolphins Bears.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: It was when actually when Tannehill got hurt at at
Speaker 2: practice when we were there and we were allowed to
Speaker 2: report it, right, that was became kind of the trickle
Speaker 2: down to what happened with the end of his run
Speaker 2: with the Dolphins. Anyway, point was when I was in
Speaker 2: the Dolphins offices on a Friday, when you get to
Speaker 2: we get to spend the whole day at the facility.
Speaker 2: To a person that was in the front office, they
Speaker 2: all said like, man, you know who we really missed,
Speaker 2: Dan Campbell. Hey, so I love Dan Campbell, but this
Speaker 2: is clearly who he is. You go to when they've
Speaker 2: gone for it and they haven't had to and they
Speaker 2: have or haven't gotten it. You go back to the
Speaker 2: last year's game against the Niners when they went for
Speaker 2: it and they clearly shouldn't have instead of just take
Speaker 2: the points and play it smart and win the game
Speaker 2: like that. This is again, I understand, it's who he is.
Speaker 2: But there's nobody going like, hey, coach, this is not
Speaker 2: the right thing or this is not the right plan.
Speaker 2: He's an always go for it guy, and ultimately it's
Speaker 2: why they didn't go to the super Bowl last year
Speaker 2: and it's why they probably won't go to the super
Speaker 2: Bowl this year.
Speaker 8: It's an opinion. I mean, look, I can't argue against
Speaker 8: the mentality of what he is. He's shown that He's
Speaker 8: been consistent, he has not wavered and in the past
Speaker 8: obviously come back to bite him. I was at that
Speaker 8: NFC Championship game last year. I watched it happen, you know,
Speaker 8: And there have been times this year where he's gone
Speaker 8: for it, unforced down, he's regretted it. He continues to
Speaker 8: stay consistent with what he does. I my thing is,
Speaker 8: I'll have that conversation with him after it bites him
Speaker 8: in the butt, like it I do see. I don't
Speaker 8: think this is just as simple as saying, well, well, jeez,
Speaker 8: he just went for it because that's who he is
Speaker 8: and he just likes to risk it. And I'm sorry,
Speaker 8: but I do think there is logic there. When you
Speaker 8: sit there and you just play the numbers game, you go, realistically,
Speaker 8: how are they going to get through this game? If
Speaker 8: they just go, well, we're going to sit fifteen guys,
Speaker 8: or if we're just going to pick ten guys and
Speaker 8: sit those ten guys, You're going to run into a
Speaker 8: numbers problem at some point. And you know, when it
Speaker 8: comes from a preparation standpoint, I get it. I get
Speaker 8: not wanting to stick hen and Hooker out there when
Speaker 8: you have not prepared him for this situation and suddenly
Speaker 8: it pops up and you just what You go to
Speaker 8: Hendon and go, hey, yeah, we know you haven't been
Speaker 8: taking starting snaps this week. We know we haven't. You know,
Speaker 8: the game plan is completely prepared for Jared Goff, who,
Speaker 8: by the way, is a completely different player than you.
Speaker 8: You're not the same player. You're not a rhythm passer,
Speaker 8: you're not a pure pocket guy. You're not this, you're
Speaker 8: not that. But we're going to stick in there now.
Speaker 8: I'm basically a day's notice because this happened with Minnesota,
Speaker 8: and you know, it just is what it is, and
Speaker 8: we don't want to We don't want to risk you know,
Speaker 8: Jared Goff and a number of other players like you
Speaker 8: can argue it either way. I mean, I do think
Speaker 8: the numbers back up, you know, some of the thought
Speaker 8: process and the preparation backs up some of the thought process.
Speaker 8: So it wasn't just a pure Dan Campbell's just going
Speaker 8: to go for it, you know. Damn the Torpedoes kind
Speaker 8: of situation.
Speaker 3: Do they have to score forty points in the playoffs
Speaker 3: to win games?
Speaker 8: They might? They might. I mean that defense is atrocious.
Speaker 8: I just don't the second half's great. You know, they
Speaker 8: played better Kirby Joseph Obviously a couple of interceptions, but
Speaker 8: that defense is what it is now you look at them,
Speaker 8: They're probably going to have to turn the ball over
Speaker 8: to create opportunities. They're going to have problems with high
Speaker 8: octane offenses. I think Minnesota, look Minnesota clicking right now.
Speaker 8: There as healthy as any team in the NFC. I
Speaker 8: would not be shocked to Minnesota drop forty on Detroit
Speaker 8: if it's a you know, a forty or fifty point
Speaker 8: game where it's like Minnesota, it's like, you know, fifty
Speaker 8: two to you know, forty five by the time that
Speaker 8: game's over. I mean, Minnesota is just scary right now.
Speaker 8: But maybe the one thing that the Vikings can't do
Speaker 8: effectively because they don't have to, is just absolutely rely
Speaker 8: on running the football. But they're protecting Sam Donald. Least
Speaker 8: they did this week. That offensive line looks like it's
Speaker 8: playing a little bit better. Brian flores Is. Look at
Speaker 8: the very least the defense throws a lot at you.
Speaker 8: Jared Goff can handle that, but I still think defensively,
Speaker 8: that first half is just so frightening for me from
Speaker 8: a Detroit standpoint, they can't get a pass rush consistently.
Speaker 8: The back end of the defense, there's gaping holes all
Speaker 8: over the place. And you know Minnesota's top three between Addison,
Speaker 8: Jefferson and Hawkinson and then now Jalen Sailors factoring in
Speaker 8: huge X factor for them at the number four receiving spot,
Speaker 8: They're going to be able to roll up points. And
Speaker 8: I will say this, I would be shocked if it's
Speaker 8: not even money going into that game. I'd love to
Speaker 8: see ultimately what the line ends up being as we
Speaker 8: get closer to that game.
Speaker 2: Did Brock parties injury? Was that just what the Niners
Speaker 2: needed to buy another season under the current deal?
Speaker 8: It's a good excuse. I mean it's I already think
Speaker 8: they were leaning toward being conservative with it, and I
Speaker 8: think ultimately what's going to happen is what they were
Speaker 8: looking at a month ago, is let's see when we
Speaker 8: go into the offseason, Let's see exactly what the numbers at.
Speaker 8: Where are we right now with the commitment? How much
Speaker 8: money is this going to cost us? And if the
Speaker 8: risk versus the reward out you know, outweighs it looks
Speaker 8: if Brock pretty asked for anything less than the highest
Speaker 8: paid contract in football. That would be a shock only
Speaker 8: because that's how agents top ten quarterbacks operate. Now, we
Speaker 8: send you the top of the heat, particularly when you're
Speaker 8: young and it's your first quarterback. Look at all the
Speaker 8: quarterbacks that signed extensions last off season, and by the way,
Speaker 8: brock Purty has a better resume than most of them
Speaker 8: when you consider the number of games he's won, the
Speaker 8: fact that he's gone to a conference title game and
Speaker 8: the Super Bowl, the fact that he didn't bomb in
Speaker 8: the super Bowl. They didn't lose that Super Bowl because
Speaker 8: of brock Purty. You can't sit there and go, oh, well,
Speaker 8: we were willing to do this for Jordan Love, but
Speaker 8: we're not willing to do that for brock Purty when
Speaker 8: they move Jordan Love to the top of the heap.
Speaker 8: So you know, look, they have reasons to be conservative
Speaker 8: because of how brock Purdy has played when the functionality
Speaker 8: around him has not been perfect this season. The look
Speaker 8: the injury, it sounds like Kal said, do you think
Speaker 8: it's nerve related? It almost reminds me like a stinger.
Speaker 8: You see guys who get a stinger in their arm
Speaker 8: and the arm just goes dead, and you know they
Speaker 8: sound far less concerned this morning than they were, at
Speaker 8: least in the immediacy of the game, but raises the
Speaker 8: specter again of you know, at times, the fragility and
Speaker 8: the fact that he already has had his throwing arm repair.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the old Colt McCoy in the National Championship Game
Speaker 2: injury where you had that the dead arm against against Alabama. Yeah, uh, Barklay.
Speaker 2: Does does he play this weekend?
Speaker 8: Yeah, they'll play him. I mean I think they'll play
Speaker 8: him only because the offensive line is demanding it at
Speaker 8: this point. You know, we'll see how Sirianni wants to
Speaker 8: play it. I think they'll be careful about it. But
Speaker 8: the bottom line is the five guys in front of him,
Speaker 8: they want him to get that record, maybe more than
Speaker 8: anybody else on the team other than Saquon. And it's
Speaker 8: going to be hard for Nick Sirianni to say, no, no,
Speaker 8: I'm not gonna listen to you.
Speaker 2: I mean, that.
Speaker 8: Offensive line is I would argue the heartbeat of that team,
Speaker 8: regardless of of you know, Jalen Hurts and Saquon and
Speaker 8: everybody knows that the tempo gets set by those guys,
Speaker 8: and I think the rushing tide was really important to them.
Speaker 8: They just have to figure out a way to, you know,
Speaker 8: talk to these guys, say Okay, if it's going to
Speaker 8: be the goal, here's how we're going to game plan this.
Speaker 8: And then as soon as we reach this threshold, we're
Speaker 8: going to be pulling guys out. This isn't going to
Speaker 8: be something that is sustained into the fourth quarter. So
Speaker 8: I would guess, as you would think, it's a very
Speaker 8: run heavy offense. Early on, they try to get it
Speaker 8: as early as they can, and if they can get
Speaker 8: it nailed down by halftime, they pull all those guys.
Speaker 2: Charles, Charles, we appreciate you joining us. Man, listen, have
Speaker 2: a happy new year. For people who don't know. Okay,
Speaker 2: you can go check out all Charles's work at Yahoo Sports.
Speaker 2: Your senior NFL reporter does outstanding, out standing job. Charles,
Speaker 2: thanks so much for joining us.
Speaker 8: Appreciate you guys. Have a happy new year.
Speaker 2: They said, what.
Speaker 8: Hould up?
Speaker 4: They said, what if you guys? Go back to mid May,
Speaker 4: Doug Gottlie was introduced as the head basketball coach at
Speaker 4: University of Wisconsin Green Bay, and he said this.
Speaker 2: I've been on the microphone. I've been on the court.
Speaker 2: I've been on the sideline. I coached in something called
Speaker 2: the Maccabi Games. It's like the Jewish Olympics, and I
Speaker 2: won two gold medals as a player, but I won
Speaker 2: two gold medals as a coach, and it was better.
Speaker 2: It's a lot better because watching them have joy, watching
Speaker 2: them build friendships for life, watching them learn how to
Speaker 2: play with each other and against the opponent and figuring
Speaker 2: it out and helping them figuring out and being that
Speaker 2: guide as a coach is incredibly fulfilling. That's what fills
Speaker 2: up my cup. That's pretty good. It's pretty good. Who's
Speaker 2: that game? Oh? Yeah? How many's the games? You want?
Speaker 2: Not enough? Yeah? That was honestly, it's it's one of
Speaker 2: those I want to we'll circle back to it. It's
Speaker 2: because because the deeper stuff I want to get to.
Speaker 2: A friend of mine passed away last night, Mike who
Speaker 2: he and his twin brother visited Notre Dame when I
Speaker 2: was there. It's forty eight years old. Head coach and
Speaker 2: I think North North Attleborough High School in Massachusetts. And
Speaker 2: so like those things kind of resonate to you where
Speaker 2: you realize as hard as this job is, and you
Speaker 2: know when you're a national media member, and people want
Speaker 2: to you know, you lose, and people want to just
Speaker 2: shoot arrows at you. They don't actually care about your
Speaker 2: situation or whatever. You do realize that it was absolutely
Speaker 2: positively the right decision to go all in on it,
Speaker 2: because you know, again, friend of mine forty years old,
Speaker 2: passed away last night, like they could tomorrow is not promised.
Speaker 2: Ta could take advantage of any opportunity today. Anyway. Oh,
Speaker 2: it's a lot, it's been a lot. We got to
Speaker 2: get We'll talk some more about each of our own
Speaker 2: twenty twenty fours as we kind of resonate. Coming up next,
Speaker 2: let's get back into Dan Bayer's game of naming everything
Speaker 2: that everybody who won this past year. We'll see where
Speaker 2: we are, We'll see what's left that's next to The
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Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Dan Patrick Show, Fox Sports Radio
Speaker 2: iHeart Radio App. Welcome in. As the year comes to
Speaker 2: a close, we want to you know, we want you
Speaker 2: to remember twenty twenty four in our own kind of
Speaker 2: unique way. And so what Dan Byer came up with
Speaker 2: was I think it's great, which is just like, hey,
Speaker 2: off the top of your head, do you remember who
Speaker 2: won every championship this year and who won every award
Speaker 2: this year? So when we last joined our superhero friends, Dan,
Speaker 2: where were we?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Well, I was trying to ask Charles Robinson a question,
Speaker 3: but you were like, Doug, you were on one. Sorry,
Speaker 3: Like I mean, I mean, geez, we want to throttle
Speaker 3: back a little bit. I had some commanders questions Green Bay,
Speaker 3: and even Charles is like, I don't want to get
Speaker 3: into this with you.
Speaker 2: Doug Man, Oh, he was like it checked up, He's right,
Speaker 2: is over. I'm all jacked up a mountain dew coming
Speaker 2: at just coming at you. Skip.
Speaker 4: Doug gets into the solo host mode every once in
Speaker 4: a while.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry about that.
Speaker 3: Guys.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, where were we with seal the championship?
Speaker 3: Yeah? So I put this out on social media. We
Speaker 3: kind of have this in three phases. He did pretty
Speaker 3: well in the first part, still looking for that fourth
Speaker 3: final four team from the women's Final four, and we
Speaker 3: never got to the Stanley Cup. Champion of twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2: Was the Mississippi State the other women's.
Speaker 3: No, it was not. It was not Mississippi State. But
Speaker 3: also looking for the Stanley Cup champion. If Jason Stewart
Speaker 3: or Mark Rams you want to get on this, you
Speaker 3: can also on social media.
Speaker 2: That was a Florida was a Florida team. It was
Speaker 2: a Florida team. Panthers. I'm gonna go Panthers.
Speaker 3: Okay, it is panty Florida Panthers beating the Edmonton Oilers.
Speaker 3: So the first part of the game is pretty much
Speaker 3: wrapped up, but still again looking for the fourth final
Speaker 3: four team outside of Yukon, Iowa and national champion South Carolina.
Speaker 3: How about this in the world of golf, tennis, and soccer,
Speaker 3: who won the Masters this past year?
Speaker 2: Who were Scheffler?
Speaker 3: It was Scottie Scheffler. Absolutely good job with that one.
Speaker 3: What about the PGA Championship.
Speaker 2: With Scotty Scheffler, It was not him.
Speaker 3: He did get her detained arrested.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, he won in jail. He won in jail.
Speaker 3: Best golfer in the Louisville Jail. PGA Championship wasn't Louisville, Kentucky.
Speaker 3: You guys have an idea who won that? It doesn't
Speaker 3: sound like it. What about the US Open at Pinehurst,
Speaker 3: Scottie Schffler, It was not Scottie Scheffler.
Speaker 2: It just seemed like he went everywhere.
Speaker 4: Did Rayson Murray?
Speaker 3: No? No, he unfortunately passed away.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, I just.
Speaker 2: Way to go there and.
Speaker 4: There they're actually doing a memorial. So I'm glad.
Speaker 3: I yeah, yeah, I'm going to.
Speaker 4: Edit that out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we clean that up, all right.
Speaker 3: You don't know the US Open champion.
Speaker 2: All the time. Let me let me me.
Speaker 3: Just let me search and google.
Speaker 2: That's exactly what I need to do.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 4: Can I do the MLS?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 2: Hold on?
Speaker 4: Did the Galaxy not win.
Speaker 3: The lly Galaxy did win the m LS? Yes, they
Speaker 3: topped the New York Red Bulls two to one in
Speaker 3: the MLS Cup.
Speaker 2: Okay, so I know Xander Schoffley won something in bryceon
Speaker 2: Deschambeau one one, and I don't know who.
Speaker 3: That is a clear cheating? Uh that is?
Speaker 4: Can I shout out Nellie Korda.
Speaker 3: Oh, you can shout out Nelly Corda. Absolutely. We didn't
Speaker 3: put any LPGA Tour, no Women's Open, the US Open
Speaker 3: didn't put that on this one unfortunately.
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, I mean them along with every
Speaker 2: w NBA star is.
Speaker 3: Why how do you guys, how do you guys feel
Speaker 3: about the tennis Grand Slam events that we had with
Speaker 3: the Australian Open, French Open, Wimbledon and US Open. Wow,
Speaker 3: you want to take Alcatraz.
Speaker 4: That's not his net right right now?
Speaker 2: Novak Djokovic won one, alcz Alcoraz did win one.
Speaker 3: Or two, and we're also looking for the Premier League
Speaker 3: champion from last season and the UEFA Champions League champion.
Speaker 3: Any I mean, by the way, Djokovic did not win
Speaker 3: any in twenty No, he did not, he did not.
Speaker 3: You are very warm with Carlos Alcaraz if that's where
Speaker 3: I remember.
Speaker 2: Alcarez had to win. He Spaniards, so he had to
Speaker 2: win the French Open.
Speaker 3: That is correct. Carlosz did win the French Open.
Speaker 2: Just after that, I got nothing.
Speaker 3: Well, this is Jason's joke for the entire summer.
Speaker 4: Well, I usually say that his opponent was unable to
Speaker 4: escape from Alcarez. Chaz, Yes, escape from Alcaraz.
Speaker 2: And Robert Flores, who's now at MLB Network, used to
Speaker 2: say this Novak after Djokovic, right that was. That was
Speaker 2: his lune solid solid line.
Speaker 4: I can't even think of the women champions for any
Speaker 4: of these events.
Speaker 3: Well, we don't need women's champions, Kayln Clark.
Speaker 4: Yeah, thank goodness.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just then the.
Speaker 2: Man mark I keep saying, Kaylen Clark, to make every
Speaker 2: female athlete somehow mad.
Speaker 3: The men's Australian Open friendship. All right, you guys are
Speaker 3: you're out of luck?
Speaker 2: Now? This is really yeah?
Speaker 3: Well Carlogelker has one more than one Grand Slam event.
Speaker 2: Okay, so he won the Australian Open.
Speaker 3: He did not? He won the Yes he did. There
Speaker 3: it is Carlos Alkarez off the board with Wimbledon. The
Speaker 3: same guy who won the Australian Open also won the
Speaker 3: US Open. By the way, Wow, yes we had two
Speaker 3: Open champs. That is correct.
Speaker 2: I it's somebody who I don't know, and I think
Speaker 2: they're probably really highly ranked. And I still don't know
Speaker 2: who it is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe we can get some help. You can find
Speaker 3: me at dan byern Fox or I'm Blue Sky at
Speaker 3: dan byern As. I am here as well, Dan.
Speaker 2: Did you do you know? Did you know before you
Speaker 2: looked it up? No?
Speaker 3: I had to be reminded. I know the name, but
Speaker 3: I had to be reminded.
Speaker 2: I have no idea the name. I just know somebody
Speaker 2: that I've never heard of.
Speaker 3: All Right, we'll see if round three is any easier
Speaker 3: next time.
Speaker 2: Did the Lions get ultimate revenge last night? Let's discuss
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