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Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody walking to Move the Sticks? Presented by

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Speaker 1: the US Marine Corps. D J. Bucky here trying to

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Speaker 1: get you ready for NFL Draft and Bucky it is

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Speaker 1: almost here. Oh man, it's this fast approaching. We gotta

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Speaker 1: and we we've got. We We talked about having busy

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Speaker 1: absolutely is not one with a lot of vegetarian fair

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Speaker 1: What do we got coming up? Telephone? Okay, so here

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Speaker 1: we go. We're gonna break out your top fifty, which

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Speaker 1: a little game Miles Garrett versus the former top picks

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Speaker 1: and current pros Jabiro Peppers makes an appearance, has a

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Speaker 1: little interview. And we're also gonna have NFC North perfect pairings.

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Speaker 1: We've tried to find perfect picks for picks for their

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Speaker 1: some of our favorite mid round wide receivers UH in

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Speaker 1: this draft class. But first, let's let's talk one of

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Speaker 1: the big pro days real late in the process. Is

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Speaker 1: really a late pro day, but one of the more

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Speaker 1: when you think about this pro day, it's always going

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Speaker 1: to go back to Leonard front and Jamal Adams and

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Speaker 1: their stars were spectacularly when they had to stage to themselves. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and Leonard Fournet a lot made about the weight. He

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Speaker 1: give him the opportunities. I think he'll be fine there

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Speaker 1: as well. Jamal Adams Bucky, we'll get to my top

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Speaker 1: He's in a pretty expensive real estate on my top fifty.

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Speaker 1: Buck Josh Jones a safety dead is, big time hitter,

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Speaker 1: good football player. I'll tell you what, Bucky, When you

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Speaker 1: look at teams in need of safeties, I can find

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Speaker 1: a perfect pairs. Let's go team by team and try

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Speaker 1: here with the Chicago Bears. They on the third pick,

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Speaker 1: Jamal Adams is everything that they need. A temperature leader,

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Speaker 1: on for him this year, stayed healthy and we saw

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Speaker 1: the player that we saw in college all right now,

428
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Speaker 1: the player we had the highest grade on. Though we

429
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Speaker 1: gotta go back, You gotta go back a little ways here,

430
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Speaker 1: and that's that's somebody that are Charlie Cassley picked with

431
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Speaker 1: the first overall pick back in the day, super Mario Williams,

432
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Speaker 1: uh very impressive. When you watched the college tape, you

433
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Speaker 1: just don't see athletes his size with that kind of

434
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Speaker 1: athleticism and polished skill. He hasn't necessarily been the transcendent

435
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Speaker 1: star that we thought he would be, But coming out

436
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Speaker 1: it was argued that he wasn't worthy of being the

437
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Speaker 1: number one overall pick. That's why he says at the

438
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Speaker 1: top of our boy, I want to say, the first

439
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Speaker 1: hundred million dollar contract to in the NFL. He got

440
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Speaker 1: paid a bunch of money. He got paid. Um certainly

441
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Speaker 1: dominated during his time at the end of his room

442
00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,480
Speaker 1: with Houston. Then for a few years in Buffalo, he

443
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Speaker 1: showed that he could be a guy that could take

444
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Speaker 1: over games single handling. I'll tell you what though, that uh,

445
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Speaker 1: that was a really really good football player in college

446
00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,240
Speaker 1: and it looked like you look back in time, Charlie

447
00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,119
Speaker 1: Cassiley made the right decision because there was a lot

448
00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,720
Speaker 1: of pressure Vince Young, Reggie Bush in that draft. He

449
00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,000
Speaker 1: got the right guy there, yeah, that he wanted in

450
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Speaker 1: Mario Williams. A sorry Bucky the the Arizona Cardinals, the

451
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Speaker 1: team last year we thought was poised to kind of

452
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Speaker 1: take that next step and really pursue a championship. Took

453
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Speaker 1: a little bit of a step back last year. Seven

454
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Speaker 1: eight and one, UM third in the NFC West. Really

455
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Speaker 1: kind of a disappointing season for them. UM, but they're

456
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Speaker 1: still one of the most talented rosters in the NFL,

457
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Speaker 1: and we'll see what they have available to them in

458
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Speaker 1: the draft and what they can do here. We'll get

459
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Speaker 1: to that in just a second of what we think

460
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Speaker 1: they should do, but first I had a chance to

461
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Speaker 1: sit down and chat with the general manager of the

462
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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals, Steve Kind, to kind of get a state

463
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Speaker 1: of the franchise. Here. With the Cardinals get three tin

464
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Speaker 1: wins seasons and last year a little bit of a

465
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Speaker 1: step backward. What happened? You know? I think it was

466
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Speaker 1: an intention attention to detail, the little things, you know.

467
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Speaker 1: You know, the roster really didn't change a lot. In fact,

468
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Speaker 1: I thought in some respects it was better, but you know,

469
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Speaker 1: the little things, the attention to detail, where it was

470
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Speaker 1: minimizing mental mistakes, whether it was missing a kick here.

471
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Speaker 1: We didn't answer the bell this year, and there's no

472
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Speaker 1: doubt this offseason that we have to correct those things.

473
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Speaker 1: Last two first round picks basically had red shirt ears

474
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Speaker 1: right d J. Humphries. This last draft, Robert kim dj

475
00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,800
Speaker 1: ultra talented defensive lineman, didn't really do much. Uh. Now,

476
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Speaker 1: what are your expectations for him going forward? In the

477
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Speaker 1: philosophy behind drafting guys, maybe not for year one, but

478
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Speaker 1: for for the long haul there to me, you have

479
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Speaker 1: to stay true to the process. We stack our board

480
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Speaker 1: accordingly to the guys that we think from one to

481
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Speaker 1: one twenty, who are the best players in the draft

482
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Speaker 1: that fit what we do and we don't stray away

483
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Speaker 1: from it. Robert kim dic is a perfect example of

484
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Speaker 1: a guy who had a tremendous amount of talent did

485
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Speaker 1: not have uh the year that most people envisioned. It's

486
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Speaker 1: a growing process for a lot of these young guys.

487
00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,680
Speaker 1: Robert's a guy that was a young player. Um has

488
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Speaker 1: all the talent in the world, but really has to

489
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Speaker 1: understand how to be a pro. And that's on him

490
00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,160
Speaker 1: and and we have big expectations for him. This year.

491
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Speaker 1: We've got a quarterback is getting a little bit older,

492
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Speaker 1: still still playing at a high level. I want to

493
00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,640
Speaker 1: read the quote that you had here you said, no question,

494
00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,359
Speaker 1: your name has to be put on a quarterback, a

495
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Speaker 1: young quarterback. At some point in time, you're gonna have

496
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Speaker 1: to turn that card in. How do you balance building

497
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Speaker 1: this team for right now with the roster you have

498
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Speaker 1: versus looking to the future and finding that next quarterback. Yeah,

499
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Speaker 1: I mean that's the challenge every day. Um. But at

500
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Speaker 1: the end of you know, you have as a GM

501
00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:02,600
Speaker 1: you have to look in the mirror and realize that

502
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Speaker 1: you're doing the right things for the organization long term.

503
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Speaker 1: But you do owe it to those guys that Larry Fitzgerald's,

504
00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,399
Speaker 1: to Carson Palmer's UM to try to win now. And

505
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,320
Speaker 1: really we really owe it to our fan base. I

506
00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,960
Speaker 1: mean to me, Um, when people say are you going

507
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Speaker 1: forward this year, you know you're gonna really sell out.

508
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Speaker 1: I mean to me, the mindset you have to have

509
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Speaker 1: is you're going forward every year. You can never put

510
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Speaker 1: yourself in a situation to me where you're thinking or

511
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,240
Speaker 1: letting your fans know you're you're in a rebuilding phase

512
00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,199
Speaker 1: that doesn't exist in the NFL anymore. And there's no

513
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Speaker 1: doubt that we have to identify that next young quarterback. Um.

514
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Speaker 1: As you know, it's a quarterback driven league, and and uh,

515
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Speaker 1: if you don't find one, you're probably not going to

516
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Speaker 1: be in the league very long. Yeah, look, we hear

517
00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,199
Speaker 1: that said quite often, right quarterback lead league. If you

518
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:45,960
Speaker 1: don't have one, you better go find one, or someone

519
00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:47,800
Speaker 1: else is gonna find one for you, because you'll be

520
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:49,879
Speaker 1: out of there. You absolutely have to find a field general,

521
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Speaker 1: and that guy has to have more than just like

522
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Speaker 1: the physical skills. He has to be a leader. He

523
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Speaker 1: has to be competitive, he has to be able to

524
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Speaker 1: kind of change the temperature of the room when he

525
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Speaker 1: walks in. And so it's tough to find those guys

526
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Speaker 1: when you're looking at the draft. But Steve con they

527
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Speaker 1: have to find someone soon because Carson Palmer is nearing

528
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Speaker 1: the end of a great run. I talked about those

529
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Speaker 1: two red shirt players, DJ Humphries after that red shirt

530
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Speaker 1: your last year actually played pretty well tackle for him.

531
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Speaker 1: And now hopefully they get a big return there out

532
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Speaker 1: of Robert Kim DJ. But we look at what they

533
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Speaker 1: could do in this year's draft, Buck and try and

534
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Speaker 1: find an impact player for this football team. He talked

535
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Speaker 1: about building for the future, but also thinking about the now.

536
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Speaker 1: So I want to look at who we're looking at

537
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Speaker 1: player wise, we have an example of each. Yeah, I'm

538
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Speaker 1: thinking about long term future. He he led the kid

539
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:31,640
Speaker 1: out the bad We talked about we have to identify

540
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Speaker 1: young quarterback of the future. So I think the guy

541
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Speaker 1: that could be a pick for them somewhere in the draft,

542
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Speaker 1: maybe early first round, maybe late first round. Ho about

543
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Speaker 1: Deshaun Kaiser. And the reason Deshaun Kais is to pick

544
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Speaker 1: for them is because his skills match with Bruce Arians

545
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Speaker 1: wants to do. You want a big, strong arm pass

546
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Speaker 1: that can push it down the field. That is exactly

547
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Speaker 1: how Bruce Arians chooses to play football. He had it

548
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Speaker 1: with big Roethlisberg. We saw the success that the Pitts

549
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Speaker 1: First still has had with him. He's had it with

550
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Speaker 1: Carson Palmer as an older player to deal likes to

551
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Speaker 1: push it down the field. Deshaun Kaiser fits that offense,

552
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 1: and in fact, I think he fits it better than

553
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 1: any other quarterback in this draft. Maybe Pat Mahomes would

554
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Speaker 1: be in that category as well. I want to push

555
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Speaker 1: you down the field. They have to find that franchise quarterback,

556
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Speaker 1: and because you have a vet in place, I think

557
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 1: you can take a chance on him. Let him Bridge

558
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,719
Speaker 1: shuret four year or two before he takes over. So

559
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Speaker 1: then in that case, Steve Kim would would believe that

560
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:25,399
Speaker 1: Deshaun Kaiser doesn't belong back at Notre Dame for a year. Anyways. Uh,

561
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 1: look to me, I'm gonna go with with a wide

562
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Speaker 1: receiver for this football team. You've got some age there

563
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Speaker 1: with Larry Fitzgerald. Let's bring in somebody else that can

564
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Speaker 1: compliment him and eventually replace him. And that's why I

565
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 1: like Corey Davis from Western Michigan, who, to me, I

566
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 1: think it's a great value pick for where they're picking.

567
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Speaker 1: Wasn't able to run. Had had an ankle injury, so

568
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Speaker 1: you couldn't see him run at the combine. I think

569
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Speaker 1: if he did run, he would run the mid four

570
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Speaker 1: fours and we would start to really hear some buzz

571
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Speaker 1: about him. Instead, he's kind of laying in the weeds

572
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 1: right now. But you talk about something that can play

573
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Speaker 1: inside outside is a clean route runner. Does have some drops, Bucky,

574
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Speaker 1: but after the catch, he is tough to get on

575
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Speaker 1: the ground a little. He kind of reminds me of

576
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 1: t O Tarrell Owens a little bit in terms of

577
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 1: the way that he plays the game. But he is

578
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,159
Speaker 1: a clean route running, very polish, very fluid. His ability

579
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 1: to create separation is outstanding. Yes, you would love to

580
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 1: see him work out, and you understand that he is

581
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 1: nursing injury, but there aren't many questions about this guy

582
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,399
Speaker 1: in terms of what he can do at the next level.

583
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Speaker 1: He's a number one receiver and I think he'll be

584
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Speaker 1: a guy that really kind of finds his sweet spot

585
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 1: in the league by a second season. And we talked

586
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Speaker 1: about that. We've talked about this on path to the draft,

587
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Speaker 1: A bunches. You know, what are they looking for in

588
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 1: a receiver? They have some undersized guys. I mean to

589
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 1: get another big, physical receiver. Floyd's no longer there. They

590
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,199
Speaker 1: moved on from him. Find somebody that big body to

591
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 1: compliment what they have there with fits and kind of

592
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 1: play that tall ball on the outside. And he would

593
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Speaker 1: benefit from being able to watch Fitzgerald do his thing

594
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: every day and right as he could steal some tricks

595
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Speaker 1: that would eventually help him become a dominant player in

596
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Speaker 1: the next level. And he talked about some drops. Well,

597
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Speaker 1: one guy doesn't drop football is Larry Fitzgerald, so he

598
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 1: maybe help him in that area as well. All Right,

599
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 1: Steve kim Uh. He had a beauty for us Buck.

600
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Speaker 1: We've done this with all the general managers we've had

601
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Speaker 1: on We've had them give us kind of a scouting story,

602
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 1: one of their favorite stories from their time on the road.

603
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Speaker 1: We've had some good ones, but I think Mr Kim

604
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Speaker 1: might have topped them all. The one day that I

605
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 1: will never forget in my life. I pulled into the

606
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Speaker 1: University of California and it's a day where they had

607
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Speaker 1: one tree left beside the facility, and there were people

608
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 1: living in a little box on the top of the tree.

609
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 1: So I'm literally standing out in this balcony all day.

610
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,360
Speaker 1: I have probably got no players right that day. They're

611
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 1: building scaffolds up this tree that's I don't know if

612
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 1: it's two feet high, whatever it was, people are living

613
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Speaker 1: in a tree. Being from Pennsylvania, where I'm from, I'll

614
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,479
Speaker 1: never forget. Coach Signetti, who was also from Pennsylvania, was

615
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 1: that cow at the time, and he came out and

616
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 1: put his arm around me. He said, do you ever

617
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 1: think two guys from p A would witness something like this?

618
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 1: I thought people are gonna fall out of the tree.

619
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Speaker 1: Um And it was quite the experience. So I I

620
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 1: got my taste of Berkeley real fast. I can. I

621
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,120
Speaker 1: can remember scouting up there during that period of time,

622
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 1: and I remember seeing the people in the trees, and

623
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Speaker 1: I remember I remember asking a question I wish I

624
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 1: could have back that, What question did you add why

625
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,160
Speaker 1: did they keep shimmy in that bucket up the tree?

626
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,679
Speaker 1: And then I got the answer, and I said, Okay,

627
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,919
Speaker 1: that's one of those I didn't need to know that.

628
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 1: I didn't need to know that one. I'll tell you what.

629
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 1: That was a classic story though from Steve Kinbucky. But

630
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 1: it wasn't. It wasn't the only scouting story he told me. More, Yeah,

631
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 1: you had another one, this one I thought, Man, it

632
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 1: was pretty interesting. How about a wide receiver from North

633
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 1: Carolina on rival school about the time you played fast kid,

634
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 1: you know, I bounced around to a couple of different teams. Um,

635
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 1: I think he landed in the media. I want to say,

636
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 1: had some character issues, but um, you know, talented guy

637
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 1: and just uh you know, I really never found his niche.

638
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,159
Speaker 1: But but like I said, I think it was the

639
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: concerns off the field that really really ruined. So I

640
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 1: mean he's just he's a good scout. I mean think

641
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,959
Speaker 1: we can say that right, there was a good scout.

642
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 1: Do you remember him playing? Do you remember him playing

643
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 1: back in the day? And I remember he played at

644
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 1: the same time with my high school team mate David

645
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,400
Speaker 1: Mary played. They were really good team and in fact,

646
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,159
Speaker 1: we couldn't beat those guys for a long time to

647
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 1: my senior year. Uh, Steve has gone on to be

648
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: like one of the best personnel man. He and uh

649
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: my goy Terry mcdonougheying great things in Arizona. How about that,

650
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: though I had to get the scattering report on Old.

651
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 1: I know the character, the character always has been been

652
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 1: a issue. Just a player, he would have been a

653
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 1: red star. Okay, that's that's the kind of character you

654
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: want there. And in Lucky Brooks. All right, let's let's

655
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 1: move on Bucky. The Cardinals team that's done great work

656
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,679
Speaker 1: here finding wide receivers a little bit later on in

657
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 1: the draft and some steels guy like John Brown. Let's

658
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 1: look at some some mid round guys in this year's

659
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 1: draft that we're really high on. I'm gonna to Western

660
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 1: Kentucky and I'm gonna go with Taiwan Taylor. Uh, big

661
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 1: time player that really showed up at the Senior Bowl.

662
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: Loves his ability to run, rouse and make plays. And

663
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: I believe he's a guy that really has a chance

664
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 1: to be a nice player. Maybe has a number three early,

665
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,919
Speaker 1: maybe he can become a number two. But he is

666
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: terrific there. You see the production on the bottom of

667
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: the screen, seventeen touchdowns. You love seeing guys that can

668
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: put it into paint. But what I love about him,

669
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: he's a very natural route runner, has all the things

670
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 1: that you look for, balanced by the controls, suddenness. Terrific player.

671
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,360
Speaker 1: Underrated in his process because there's so many wide receivers.

672
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: Someone's gonna get a really good football player. Yeah, he's

673
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 1: got He's really got some juice there. But how about

674
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: our little mid round Jim's thing back there, which, by

675
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: the way, reminds me. I got married when I was

676
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 1: still in college. I need to get my wife a

677
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 1: new ring man that that's time to upgrade. That was

678
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 1: just spend some of the money. Some big boys, those

679
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 1: some big boys back there. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna

680
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 1: go West Virginia. Sheldon Gibson is my midwile round wide receiver. Again,

681
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,880
Speaker 1: this is a deep threat, Bucky, This is uh, this

682
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 1: is go routes. This is kind of like what we

683
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: talked about Corey Coleman last year. Yeah, let's just go

684
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,199
Speaker 1: go slants post, just get him over the top. He's

685
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 1: gonna line up on the same side and roll. And

686
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: to me, there's value in that. Somebody they can take

687
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 1: the top off the defense. Absolutely, without question. Shelton Gibson

688
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 1: can do that. I thought he would have timed a

689
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: little bit faster than he did, but his place beat

690
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: is plenty fast. He plays fast and everyone that is

691
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 1: covering him. Vertical playmaker. You talk about the simple route

692
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,479
Speaker 1: running ability, slant posts, go he he can do all

693
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 1: those things. Vertical rob running. He's gonna stretch it out

694
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 1: as a big play receiver. Question for you, who won

695
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 1: the of the n C Double A tournament. Come on

696
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: the tar Heels, tar Heels Reign Supreme. Where the thing

697
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 1: is back in his normal place. Where'd you go to

698
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: school game? I want to Carolina. I'm a little parts

699
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: of the tar Heels and so my next mid round

700
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 1: guy is going to be my guy, Ryan Switzer from

701
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 1: North Carolina. A lot of love in the streets for

702
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: this guy as a mid round player. He's a terrific

703
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: catch and run specialist, does a great job with the

704
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: ball in his hands. Natural punt returner head eight touchdowns

705
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 1: in his career as a punt returner, that a second

706
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: most in NST Double A history. But here's what he's

707
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: going to be able to do. He's gonna be able

708
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: to come in as a slot receiver, make plays in

709
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: the open field, give you a little extra spice in

710
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: the kicking game. Round the fourth round, someone's gonna find

711
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: a special player from North Carolina. Well you're gonna go Danny.

712
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 1: You're gonna go Danny Ammondola, Or you're gonna go Are

713
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: you gonna go to Dallas? You're gonna go Dallas? With

714
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: me on the comparison there with Yeah, you know, like

715
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: I think he's a little cold, cold BEA's the cold

716
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: beast that has surprised me in terms of the way

717
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: that he's matured. But if I'm Ryan Swiss and I'm

718
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 1: studying all those guys, and maybe I can't even ascend

719
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: to be a little Julian Edelman, because I think Julian

720
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: Edelman is the best of all of them in terms

721
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: of being able to do this stuff outside and inside

722
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: and return. All Right, I like that one there I'm

723
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 1: gonna go to Alabama from my mid round Jim here

724
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: and a guy that again hasn't got a lot of

725
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 1: attention throughout this process. A lot of receivers in this draft,

726
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: no question, our Darius Stewart to me, is physical. That's

727
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 1: what I love about his game, Bucky. He is competitive.

728
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: He's a good blocker, which a little bit underrated at

729
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 1: the wide receiver spot. Then after the catch, he's tough

730
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: to get on the ground. He will run through tackles,

731
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: pull through tackles, lower his shoulder if he needs to.

732
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 1: I love the competitive spirit he brings to the table.

733
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna get him, probably in that third

734
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: round range. I think he's gonna be a tremendous value pick.

735
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 1: Tough football players are always in vogue. He catches the

736
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: ball will and he can run routes. There's something to that.

737
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 1: And plus he played at a program where he understands

738
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 1: how to win. There's value in those intangible qualities that

739
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: you bring. We talk about toughness, and we talked about

740
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 1: being able to have an immediate impact and mentioned some

741
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: of these wide receivers. Another guy who's gonna do it

742
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball is Jibrol Peppers.

743
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: Much has been made about what position he played in college,

744
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,719
Speaker 1: where is he gonna play in the next level, But

745
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: we all agree he's a fantastic athlete and as we

746
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 1: got to talk to him, we found out a fantastic

747
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,239
Speaker 1: kid as well. Jabrill Peppers from Michigan is joining us.

748
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: What's going on, man, I'm doing just fine. Man that

749
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: you guys are haven't well, you didn't rock the hat.

750
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if the hat would have worked in

751
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: the head. You had a very strong hat. Appreciate it.

752
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: I appreciate you know you're bringing it all right, Hey,

753
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: let's jump into this here. Uh, your time at Michigan,

754
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: um man, you're you're a fun player to study. But

755
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: were you frustrated at all? You come off off the

756
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 1: previous season playing the secondary full time and this year,

757
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: you know, new defensive coordinator, new scheme set up. You

758
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: basically kind of took one from the team. You going

759
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: down there in the linebacker. You're banging with a big boys,

760
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: And how was that experience for you? I mean, you know,

761
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: of course, you know, I was a little uneasy when

762
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: he first bought it to me. But you know, when

763
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 1: he broke down the position to me and you know,

764
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 1: showed me film of Matt Milano. You know, he played

765
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: extremely well at that position, you know, just by his

766
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: his enthusiasm, his tenacity. So you know, I just tried

767
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: to match that. You know, it didn't go above above that,

768
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: but um, you know, ultimately, you know, we we had

769
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: avoid the film. Um. You know, some guys went down

770
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: to the injury and you know, he asked me, he said,

771
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 1: you know you might have to you know, stay here

772
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: a little bit more than I would have liked you to. Um,

773
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: but you know, that's that's what the team needs right now.

774
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: I think it will really help us. And UM, you know,

775
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: I'm a winner man. Whatever I could do to help

776
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 1: the team win, that's what I'm gonna do the to

777
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: the best of my ability. One of the things that

778
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: I took from that was, you know, just my ability

779
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: to actually understand the fronts, both of you know, the

780
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: offensive line, entity line or the six five three to

781
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 1: shade things like that, reading the pulling guard. So you know,

782
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,959
Speaker 1: I think it was definitely helpful, you know, with adding

783
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: you know that to my arsenal Um. So you know,

784
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: I wasn't really mad. I was just you know, thinking

785
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: about it as it if I play the best I

786
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: can play, give a hundred percent effort each and every down,

787
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: you know, and just trying to make players and I

788
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: can make them you know, no one better I, you know,

789
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 1: So that was just that was just my mindset. You know,

790
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: we were winning games. You're a bunch of them, so

791
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: so you know, I definitely was not complaining. You know,

792
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 1: I was making a lot of tackles for loss. You know. Um,

793
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: that was that was a new thing for me. Huh.

794
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: Before I was trying to get you know, pep us

795
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: and you know, stop stop the receivers from getting the ball.

796
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 1: But now I was actually to you know, make plays

797
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: at or behind the line of scrimmage. And you know,

798
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 1: I think I did a pretty good job. You know,

799
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 1: I'm dominating the role they're giving ship exactly. That's it.

800
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 1: That's it. So it's interesting and looking at the tape

801
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 1: and watching in one game, I account you may have

802
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: played eight different positions to talk about on the offense, quarterback,

803
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: running back, wide receiver, punt return to kick returner, all

804
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: those things. When you have the ball in your hand

805
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: as a punt returner, you're you're pretty special and dynamic

806
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: kind of take me to the process of what you

807
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: think about when you're back there fielding the kick and

808
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: what you're trying to accomplishy here the ball in your hand. Well,

809
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: the first thing back there, you know from tape we

810
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: usually have a good scott to report on the punters

811
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: where they like to punt from, you know, each half

812
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: for a landmark on the field. Um, and just trying

813
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 1: to beat the ball there, um, you know, scare your

814
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: feet up. I like to look up, glance and then

815
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: look back up just to you know, feel the pressure coming.

816
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, I pretty much have a idea

817
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: of where the ball is supposed to go, how to blocking,

818
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 1: schemes supposed to be set up, and I'm not just

819
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: try to make my blocks right, you know, trust what

820
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 1: you see, you know, make one cut, get vertical, you know,

821
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: and just you know, get as much as you can.

822
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 1: You know. That was just my mind set back there,

823
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: just you know, try to start the offense with this

824
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: best to feel position as they possibly can. I mean,

825
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: and Bucky talked about comparisons. We It's tough to find

826
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 1: one for you cause you do assume many different things.

827
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: But one of the guys we were both scouting the

828
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 1: West coast. When Eric Weddle was coming out of Utah.

829
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: Er Wottle played some corner, he played some safe, was

830
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,760
Speaker 1: all over. He returned and was a big time playmaker

831
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: for them. Now he's going on to be a big

832
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: off pro, definitely a Pro Bowl or if not an

833
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: All Pro. Let's throw some tape up here of what

834
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: I think we have some of that, don't we? Don't

835
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: we guys, of of what he brings to the table.

836
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 1: And are you familiar at all with him? I know you,

837
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 1: I know your head coach, your head coach, Jim Harbaugh

838
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: knows about him with his brother John coaching him there

839
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 1: in the Ravens. Definitely know about the beard, you know

840
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 1: about the beer, about the beard and so and so

841
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 1: when you see him play, what kind of things do

842
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: you think your game and his game are very very similar?

843
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: Like do you see traits or similar traits? I definitely,

844
00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 1: I definitely see similarities. Um, you know, he's a a

845
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 1: great tackler. You know, he's a smart a smart savvy guy.

846
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: And um, you know, he definitely understand the game and

847
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: what the officers is trying to do, you know, and

848
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: he makes plays because of that. I'm gonna move this

849
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: ahead here, guys, because I know, I know has got

850
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 1: so many places to go. Here. The greatest highlight of

851
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: your career, what is it? Um? I mean definitely just

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Speaker 1: even making it, you know, onto the field at Michigan

853
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 1: but uh, you know, I definitely say, um, probably beating

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Speaker 1: Michigan State, you know, just just by you know, the

855
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: way the game and the last year. You know, I

856
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: felt we should have won that game. But that's why

857
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: you gotta play, you know, the whole sixty minutes. You know,

858
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: we played fifty fifty nine fifty and uh, you know

859
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: so but you know, just just just getting that bad

860
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: taste out of my mouth for you'll never beat O

861
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: as you UM, so that that would definitely be the

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Speaker 1: the low light of my career. I guess would be

863
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 1: the you know, the opposite of highlight. But you know

864
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 1: it is what it is. Man. We had an opportunity

865
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Speaker 1: to do it this year, UM, and you know we

866
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Speaker 1: came up short. It's bad spot. It was a bad spot.

867
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Speaker 1: I won't put you on the spot. So now, what

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Speaker 1: would you say is the greatest hardship that you've had

869
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: to overcome in your lifetime? Um? Definitely you know the

870
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: death of my brother. Um. You know, especially when my

871
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 1: dad was in jail. Um. You know, I was just

872
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,280
Speaker 1: a lot of emotions going on, a lot of questions

873
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 1: I need to answers too. But you know, just saying

874
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: my mom hurt like that, you know that that just

875
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 1: gave me all the motivation I needed to you know,

876
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 1: do something special in my life and you know, to

877
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: bring her joy that she loves. I tell you what,

878
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 1: this is pretty pressive to member. We've talked before about Stanford, Michigan.

879
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: Come come through what you came through, and to have

880
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 1: those options speaks a lot about you as as a person. Er.

881
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 1: Your hero our last eighth question, who's your hero? I'll

882
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 1: probably say my mom. Um. You know, she she was

883
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: doing things when I was younger that I didn't understand

884
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: then that I understand now. You know, some nights, you know,

885
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 1: I eat and she'd be at the table with me,

886
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: but she wouldn't be eating. You know, I just thought

887
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: she ate already. I didn't know that she, you know,

888
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: sacrifice at her mail so I can eat, you know,

889
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: things like that, working two jobs while getting a master's degree,

890
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: you know, raising two hard had kids, and you know,

891
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: it's just showing me to pity me of hard work,

892
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: consistency and you know, persistence without complaining, and you know,

893
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 1: just knowing you have to do to the best of

894
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 1: your ability. You know no one's gonna feel sorry for you.

895
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: Um and you know she just really just showed me

896
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: the ropes. And you know I live, I live by

897
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: a lot of the virtuals that you know. She didn't

898
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,760
Speaker 1: even tell me that she showed me, So I definitely

899
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 1: said my mother, I'll tell you what, man, NFL, You're

900
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 1: gonna have adversity, and guys are gonna have adversities. Some

901
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,919
Speaker 1: guys don't overcome it. You've overcome so much stuff beyond

902
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 1: what you're gonna see in the NFL. And I don't

903
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,399
Speaker 1: worry about you or we're excited to follow you though

904
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 1: in your NFL career to see where you land. And

905
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,320
Speaker 1: don't be a stranger when you get to really not

906
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: absolutely not all right, that's your real peppers here with us.

907
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: I moved the sticks presented by the U. S. Marine Corps.

908
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what when he came into not

909
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: just the podcast study, when we had him across the

910
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: street and the TV studio, you can feel the energy

911
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: of Jabrol Peppers when and when he walks in the room.

912
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: Definitely a charismatic guy, guy that's a natural leader. We're

913
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: always looking for those alpha dogs to add to a team,

914
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: and so as an evaluated when I sat down with

915
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,479
Speaker 1: Jabil Peppers, I'm certainly excited about what he can bring

916
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: to the team, not only on the field, but what

917
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: he can do to add to the locker room. Yeah.

918
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: Having a chance to be around him on a couple

919
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,240
Speaker 1: of different occasions, now I've seen it. Just the guys

920
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: around him. They want to be around him. He's just

921
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: the pied piper, and there's definitely a value in that

922
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 1: when you're bringing somebody into your organization. Man, what a

923
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: what a jam pack show we had today? Quickly, we

924
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: got a lot of stuff jammed into this show. Favorite,

925
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: give me a favorite part, favorite part, Favorite part, Perfect Parents.

926
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Speaker 1: I'd like kind of playing matchmaker. I think we did

927
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 1: a good job of matching players up with teams. I'm

928
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 1: gonna go Steve Coime story on Bucky Brooks. You like

929
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: that the character that was my That was my favorite

930
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 1: favorite part of the show. I was gonna have a

931
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 1: little bit worried you find somebody that would have played

932
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: against me, but they don't exist. Um anyways, that's uh,

933
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Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for us today, Bucky fun Show.

934
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Speaker 1: We've got a couple more of these coming before we

935
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Speaker 1: get to the draft, including one I believe we're gonna

936
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Speaker 1: be I'm gonna be live about in Philadelphia's right, We're

937
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: gonna switch it up right before the draft. He's gonna

938
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Speaker 1: be in Philly. I'm gonna be right here And go

939
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Speaker 1: to NFL dot com Slash MTS video and check out

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00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: YouTube dot com Slash NFL. You can find all of

941
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: our video stuff that's going to do it for us today.

942
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Speaker 1: This is Move the Sticks, presented by the US Marine Corps.

943
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: We'll see you next time. Thanks for downloading Move the

944
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. For more, go

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