WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Analyzing the Injuries 0:00:01.800 --> 0:00:04.280 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.320 --> 0:00:07.480 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for 0:00:07.520 --> 0:00:12.080 a break? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely ready 0:00:12.320 --> 0:00:15.960 for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. It's 0:00:16.040 --> 0:00:22.239 time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com with Nick, 0:00:23.320 --> 0:00:29.400 David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. Hello, guys, 0:00:29.480 --> 0:00:32.160 welcome to the Break. This is an exciting day. The 0:00:32.200 --> 0:00:36.279 whole crew is back together. It's in a while. Are 0:00:36.280 --> 0:00:38.680 you happy? Nick? You've been asking for it. I mean 0:00:38.680 --> 0:00:43.680 I wanted to have I think I've been here. Everyone 0:00:43.760 --> 0:00:46.440 has been flipping around. That's all good. All right, Well, 0:00:46.520 --> 0:00:49.720 let's just start off with with some injuries. It's April, 0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:57.360 mid April, and we're still some injuries. Waits. This thing 0:00:57.520 --> 0:01:01.800 is moving. It's did you realize into a little over 0:01:01.840 --> 0:01:04.200 two months, we'll be an oxnark We'll be on that 0:01:04.240 --> 0:01:07.640 plane real quick. That's crazy. I'm not Hey, it's already 0:01:07.640 --> 0:01:10.320 like it's eighty five degrees outside right now. I'm ready 0:01:10.319 --> 0:01:12.160 for it. Let's go. Ready to get back to California 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:14.760 and California weather. Let's get on the grind football. It 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:17.480 was cold, that's pretty cool. Last week, but she did 0:01:17.600 --> 0:01:19.959 was she? She pulled out the notes the last time 0:01:20.000 --> 0:01:22.560 we were together, it was like, all right mid April 0:01:22.680 --> 0:01:23.880 or I don't even know if that. I think it 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:27.559 was Wad. It might have been like, yeah, we didn't 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:29.480 do a show before the draft for like at thirty 0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:31.600 minute then you had to leave. Yeah, and I didn't 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:34.520 even start that show. Nope. Well mid May, we're already 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:37.679 talking about injuries. First one on the list, of course, 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:42.680 Derek Eagleton, who was recovering from a shoulder injury. And 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:48.160 are you shoulder surgery? Neck area? Everything good? I'm good. 0:01:48.600 --> 0:01:50.080 Are you gonna be ready for training camp? Now? I 0:01:50.120 --> 0:01:52.120 won't be able to run until training camp, but I'll 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:54.160 be ready to run by training camp. So good to 0:01:54.200 --> 0:01:56.600 hear her, man, glad to hear it, boss Man. If 0:01:56.640 --> 0:01:59.880 you guys see the if you're watching the actual video, 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:06.040 you can see Derek. Yeah, on the neck. Yeah, it's disturbing, 0:02:06.160 --> 0:02:09.320 but that's where the incisions that happened. It's a band aid. Yeah, 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:12.639 it's a band aid, just a little small cut, nothing big. Well, 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:16.200 next one on the list, running back my Webber. Oh, 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:20.200 I thought was ready. We'll go. Third one on the list, 0:02:20.720 --> 0:02:23.600 Mike Webber. He he had an MRI. He was limped 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:26.320 in off the field on Saturday morning during that practice 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:30.560 and it was the knee. Something happened there. Well, we 0:02:30.600 --> 0:02:35.360 have an update because I think Dave was looking outside 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:39.240 of the practice field at practice um and saw that. 0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:44.520 I'm just kidding. I wasn't doing anything, Mike Webber, he 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:46.440 I think he's doing a little drills and stuff like that. 0:02:46.480 --> 0:02:48.519 He's out there. Yeah, I think he's fine. Nothing serious. 0:02:48.880 --> 0:02:50.440 So they got him out there. They have an MRI 0:02:50.919 --> 0:02:53.160 on site, so they gave him one as a precaution. 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:56.359 But I think he's okay. Like it's not a big 0:02:56.400 --> 0:02:58.520 deal for an app for a Cowboys player to get 0:02:58.520 --> 0:03:00.680 an MRI, like they do that all kinds of stuff. 0:03:00.680 --> 0:03:03.400 So they took a look at it. You know, I 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:06.000 wonder if they'll give him a full workload at OTAs. 0:03:06.040 --> 0:03:09.160 But he's okay. Always did he have any injury history 0:03:09.160 --> 0:03:13.359 coming in? Not anything significant? No, And that's I mean, 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:16.320 you know, it was a walkthrough on Saturday, and I think, 0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:18.880 you know, he just maybe tweaked it cutting or something 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:21.919 like that. Like it wasn't like this. You know, if 0:03:21.960 --> 0:03:23.720 you hadn't been paying close attention, you might have thought 0:03:23.760 --> 0:03:25.200 he was just going in to go to the bathroom. 0:03:25.200 --> 0:03:27.720 It's not like he was carried off or anything like that. 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:31.080 So it seems like he's okay, okay. Next one taco 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:34.280 a guy I knew about their shoulder injury from him 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:38.280 both sides. Now he went through a scope on the ankle, 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:41.560 and that's something. Did you guys know about this? It's 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:43.360 something that kind of popped up. I don't know. I 0:03:43.360 --> 0:03:45.680 didn't I didn't know about it. But this is this 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:48.200 type of thing always. It seems to happen every offseason. 0:03:48.240 --> 0:03:51.000 It happened. It just happened with another team as well 0:03:51.040 --> 0:03:53.480 as like you know, he was probably dealing with it 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:56.560 during the season, and you know, you think like, well, 0:03:56.720 --> 0:03:58.320 you know, I'm not playing anymore, it'll be all right, 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:00.480 It'll be okay. And then this time you're rolls around 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:02.200 and you're not feeling a lot better. You still got 0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:04.320 a ways to go until training camp, and you're again, 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:07.200 getting a scope as a pro football player is not 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:09.320 as big of a deal as it would be for us. 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:11.160 So it's like, let's go in and clean it up. Oh. 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:14.400 It was Darius Leonard, the Colts linebacker. Same thing like 0:04:15.200 --> 0:04:17.919 it had been bothering him it's May and he doesn't 0:04:17.920 --> 0:04:19.320 feel a lot better, and they're like, well, let's just 0:04:19.360 --> 0:04:21.599 get this knocked out now so that you'll be ready 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:23.920 for training camp. Same thing here. You know it's not 0:04:24.000 --> 0:04:27.359 necessarily a new injury, but why take chances. You know 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:30.520 what it does though, is and you're right, Taco is 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:32.960 gonna be able to compete in a training camp. But 0:04:33.040 --> 0:04:34.360 I think what it's going to do is when he 0:04:34.400 --> 0:04:37.000 gets to the OTAs and we'll see about mini camp 0:04:37.040 --> 0:04:39.040 on how long that takes it. You probably is gonna 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:41.200 be knocked out for mini camp, I would imagine. But 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:44.960 the guys like Joe Jackson and Jelks, these rookie pass 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:48.080 rushers that you know they looked the part. I don't 0:04:48.080 --> 0:04:49.719 know if they can play, but I mean they certainly 0:04:49.720 --> 0:04:53.239 looked the part. They're gonna get opportunities. Zelner Peppi's owner. 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:55.520 You think Jalen Jelks is PEPPI know what I'm saying. 0:04:55.560 --> 0:04:56.960 That's when you get to those guys that looked the 0:04:57.040 --> 0:04:59.000 part and you know they can necessarily play. But like 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:01.360 Peppi's elder looked the part. You know, there's that guy 0:05:01.640 --> 0:05:05.320 Jolkes is so intriguing because he could play. I mean 0:05:05.720 --> 0:05:07.640 in the Pac twelve he was a he was a 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:10.400 first team All Pac twelve player, and he I mean, 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:13.680 you know, he had good production, and he has good 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:16.839 size and he played at a good school. Maybe he 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:19.200 can be a good player. Yeah, maybe there should be 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:24.440 plenty of opportunities for d Lineman in this session coming 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:29.320 up because Gregory's not here. D law is not going 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:31.880 to do a lot. Taco's not doesn't sound like he's 0:05:31.880 --> 0:05:33.400 gonna do a lot. I don't think there's anything wrong 0:05:33.440 --> 0:05:35.600 with Robert Quinn, but he's like a nine year veteran, 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:38.240 so you'd imagine you're not going to kill him during OTAs. 0:05:38.800 --> 0:05:41.000 Although he's new to the system, so it's true, but 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:44.080 I still, I mean, well, and then, um, what are 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:46.920 you doing this afternoon? That seemed like a good story. Yeah, 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:49.920 good point, good story, and it's really more like tonight, 0:05:50.120 --> 0:05:53.960 But that's true. Baseball, Antoine Woods is coming off a shoulder. 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:56.520 I think MALIEK. Collins is coming off something like Rod 0:05:56.560 --> 0:05:58.919 Marinelli was talking about it at Mini camp over the weekend. 0:05:58.960 --> 0:06:00.600 He was like, we got a lot of guys that 0:06:00.640 --> 0:06:02.760 we're not going to push very hard this spring, which 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:05.080 can only be a good thing for the rookies and 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:08.280 whoever else. And the thing about it is it may 0:06:08.320 --> 0:06:10.800 not even lead to much here because you start talking 0:06:10.800 --> 0:06:12.760 about all those names, all those names are presumably going 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:14.640 to be on this team when you get to September. 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:17.000 So just getting them ready so that they have the 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:19.279 opportunity to be able to show well during the preseason 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:21.800 that may create other opportunities for them if they should 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:23.800 get cut, which a lot of them probably will because 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:25.760 a lot of the positions are already solidified, i think 0:06:25.760 --> 0:06:28.000 on the defensive line, just because of the numbers of 0:06:28.000 --> 0:06:29.800 the people that they actually have here. But when you 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:34.680 talk about not pushing these defensive linemen, the guys that 0:06:34.720 --> 0:06:37.039 were banged up, that means that the younger guys, the 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:39.480 Tristan Hills and the Jolkes and them, they're going to 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:42.040 get chances to go up against the first team offensive 0:06:42.080 --> 0:06:44.720 line here, and that's all. That's always a good thing, 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:47.200 good experience. So yeah, this could this could be a 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:49.320 win win if those all those guys kind of come 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:53.640 back into the mixer. Now Minicamp rookie minicamp ended. And 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:57.480 you know, it's very different when you watch footage from 0:06:57.520 --> 0:07:00.960 college and watch players versus when you're actually seeing them 0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:04.480 in person and seeing them do things. Who would be 0:07:04.520 --> 0:07:06.760 a guy for each one of you that kind of 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:12.160 wasn't really what you expected or look different better for 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:14.680 the better or warriors don't do this to me? Why 0:07:14.920 --> 0:07:18.040 they didn't do anything? I know, I know. But for example, 0:07:18.120 --> 0:07:21.560 for example, the corners when they came, I know, they 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:24.040 were big corners and stuff, and then seeing them in person, 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:27.760 it's like, wow, Okay, they're actually pretty big and so 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:30.560 little things. That's what you do, that's what you look 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:32.400 at stuff like that. Like we were sitting there looking 0:07:32.400 --> 0:07:36.360 at at Mike Jackson, and man, his arms are and 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:38.960 he's not really that tall. I mean, he's one of 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:42.320 those prototypical guys that supposedly Rochard loves it has the 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:45.400 long limb, stands next to Westreet, and Westreet looks like 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:47.800 he's taller than any wide receiver. And when he's six 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:50.320 to four, he doesn't look like the corner, and so 0:07:50.560 --> 0:07:53.320 he looks like Jackson looks like the short corner, you know, 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:55.640 and he is compared to Westreet. But if you look 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:58.280 at their arms, I don't, I don't. I could measure them, 0:07:58.280 --> 0:08:01.120 but I mean, I'm just saying I can't shameless plug. 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:04.400 I wrote a story about it yesterday. Yeah. I mean, 0:08:05.120 --> 0:08:07.080 probably the one thing that jumped out to me more 0:08:07.120 --> 0:08:09.480 than anything else during rookie camp was the corners, because 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:12.600 Donovan Alumba was there too. They're massive, and Mike Jackson's 0:08:12.600 --> 0:08:16.120 only six one, he's got thirty three inch arms. Westrey's 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:19.760 six four with thirty three inch arms, Alumba's six two 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:23.000 with thirty two and quarter inch which I actually went 0:08:23.120 --> 0:08:28.720 back through Richard's tenure with the Seahawks. It's staggering, you 0:08:28.760 --> 0:08:31.280 know how closely they've aligned with what he wants in 0:08:31.320 --> 0:08:33.920 a corner over the time he was in Seattle. They 0:08:33.920 --> 0:08:37.400 only drafted one quarterback cornerback who was shorter than six foot, 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:39.520 and then in draft any that didn't have at least 0:08:39.559 --> 0:08:43.600 thirty two inch arms. Really, Yeah, like arm length and 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:46.000 height are big deals. I think Byron Maxwell was the 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:48.480 only sub six foot corner they ever drafted, and he 0:08:48.520 --> 0:08:51.080 was five to eleven, Which then I went and looked 0:08:51.160 --> 0:08:55.560 at who's on the roster right now, and of the incumbents, 0:08:55.559 --> 0:09:00.120 Byron Jones, Anthony Brown, Jordan Lewis, Cheeto Woozier, Byron is 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:02.360 the only one that hits both of those benchmarks, not 0:09:02.400 --> 0:09:06.000 even Cheeto does. Cheeto doesn't. His arms are only thirty 0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:08.920 and five eighths or something like that, which, you know, 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:11.680 maybe that's not everything because you've had Cheeto in the 0:09:11.720 --> 0:09:15.000 system for two years and he's played really well. But 0:09:15.040 --> 0:09:18.079 I just think it's interesting that most of the corners 0:09:18.080 --> 0:09:20.760 that are on the roster right now with starting experience 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:24.400 are not guys that Richard would probably look at if 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:25.800 it were up to him, you know what I mean. 0:09:26.320 --> 0:09:29.960 So I just think that's something. Would you imagine some 0:09:30.040 --> 0:09:33.120 of these new guys kind of pushing out? I mean, yes, 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:36.880 Anthony Brown, they have the experience. You got. Jordan Lewis, 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:39.040 poor guy, he has already been kind of pushed out 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:42.360 since last year or so, all things being equal. Yeah, 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:44.959 Like I think Richard would probably rather go with one 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:47.400 of these yeah, which I mean, they gotta they still 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:49.880 gotta be better, you know, like if Anthony Brown is 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:52.360 just better than these guys, then obviously you go with 0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:55.280 the better player. But I bet Richard would love for 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:58.040 one of these guys to take ownership of something. But 0:09:58.160 --> 0:09:59.760 let me ask you, this is that you know at 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:04.400 all scary a little bit because Richard right now, there's 0:10:04.400 --> 0:10:06.840 no guarantee Rochards here next year or the year after. 0:10:06.880 --> 0:10:09.280 He's a guy that's a commodity as a potential head 0:10:09.280 --> 0:10:13.120 coach coach in the NFL if you're changing things, and again, 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:15.880 as you talked about, Jordan Lewis already kind of found 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:19.040 himself kind of the odd man out. If Cheeto doesn't 0:10:19.080 --> 0:10:21.720 fit that that criteria, at some point, maybe one of 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:24.360 these other guys maybe kind of starts to slide. Are 0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:27.280 you okay as the Cowboys kind of moving in that 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:30.600 direction knowing that maybe you might not even have Richard 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:33.480 in coming years. I mean not, but he's he's put 0:10:33.520 --> 0:10:36.079 something in place that I think you should follow because 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:39.680 the Seahawks, it worked for them, it worked for Byron Jones. 0:10:39.720 --> 0:10:41.920 I mean it's I mean, it's not a bad thing 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:43.560 to say, all right, well he's not here anymore, but 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:46.920 we're still gonna keep that philosophy, which to be I mean, 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:49.400 you don't have to adhere to one hundred percent like Guess. 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:51.760 I mean, Anthony Brown and Cheeto have proven themselves, if 0:10:51.960 --> 0:10:54.760 as good players despite not having those measurables. So but 0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:57.240 they're both like in the next what two years, Hey, 0:10:57.280 --> 0:11:00.320 I mean down after this year. I think it's it's 0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:02.959 curious to think, like, Okay, these guys have proven they 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:05.160 can do it. Are you really not going to resign 0:11:05.240 --> 0:11:08.520 them just because they don't have these measurables that you value, 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:11.000 even though they've proven on tape for multiple years that 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:12.800 they can do it well. We thought after this rookie 0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:14.559 year that Jordan Lewis had something, not all of a 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:16.600 sudden last year he was completely out of the mix. 0:11:16.679 --> 0:11:19.800 So and he's a pick that was a I think 0:11:19.800 --> 0:11:22.840 a valuable pick. Rights. So from my standpoint, I look 0:11:22.840 --> 0:11:25.160 at and say, they've already shown a set they're willing 0:11:25.160 --> 0:11:27.840 to at least defer that way. Yep. And and so 0:11:27.960 --> 0:11:29.480 I will be interested to see what happens is if 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:31.720 year with Brown, because that'll tell you a lot about 0:11:31.880 --> 0:11:33.800 kind of how the Cowboys are looking at the cornerback 0:11:33.840 --> 0:11:37.560 position without Rahard. It's it's and I don't we don't 0:11:37.559 --> 0:11:39.200 know the answer to that yet, but it'll be something 0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:43.439 to watch. I'm fascinated to see what the cornerback depth 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:46.600 chart looks like when it's finalized, yeh like, because it'll 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:49.480 show you a lot about what they prioritize. It's definitely 0:11:49.480 --> 0:11:53.559 gonna be a fun training camp, basically all all positions. Now, 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:57.800 let's move on to the running back position. Tony say 0:11:57.960 --> 0:12:00.079 his last name before you make fun of me, know 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:05.280 how you see it? Polar Pollard, pard Tony. Let's just 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:08.960 talk about Tony and a guy that has started, you know, 0:12:09.120 --> 0:12:13.240 getting some labels around what he's going to be able 0:12:13.280 --> 0:12:15.319 to do here for the Cowboys in the offense. Is 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:18.520 this a guy that you you think that the Cowboys 0:12:18.600 --> 0:12:21.640 will be able to find the right place for him. 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:24.240 We've seen it happen with Tavon Austin, how they talked 0:12:24.240 --> 0:12:28.120 about him and praised all his abilities and how they 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:30.720 can use him all over the field. This is a 0:12:30.760 --> 0:12:32.880 guy that seems to be kind of just like that 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:35.800 as far as being utilized in many, many different ways. 0:12:36.160 --> 0:12:38.920 Do you think that the Cowboys can find a way 0:12:38.960 --> 0:12:40.960 to make it work with him and have him be 0:12:41.200 --> 0:12:45.000 productive on the field. That's on Kellen Moore. It's on 0:12:45.080 --> 0:12:47.240 Kellen Moore to figure it out, and it's on Jason 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:50.000 Garrett to let him figure it out. I mean, that's 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:52.760 really as far as I'm willing to go, because I mean, 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:55.320 it's not just Tavon Austin. It was Ryan Switzer, it 0:12:55.440 --> 0:12:57.600 was Lance Dunbar. I know injuries were part of that, 0:12:57.679 --> 0:13:01.360 but excuses, excuses. I mean, you drafted this guy in 0:13:01.400 --> 0:13:03.400 the fourth round. It's not quite a premium pick, but 0:13:03.480 --> 0:13:05.800 a pick that you expect to make a difference, and 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:08.240 they haven't been able to do it. They need to 0:13:08.280 --> 0:13:11.160 do it. That's on them. One thing about and it's 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:16.439 it is on Pollard too in one regard um. If 0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:19.920 he's gonna play it like a right wide receiver slot guy, 0:13:20.000 --> 0:13:21.800 that's that's one thing. But if he's also going to 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:23.880 be back there as a running back, he's got to 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:25.720 be able to block. If he if he can't pick 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:28.679 up the blitz, if he can't recognize where it's coming 0:13:28.720 --> 0:13:32.800 from and protect the quarterback um and not be a liability, 0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:35.120 then that's that's not going to get him on the 0:13:35.160 --> 0:13:37.160 field at all. I mean, because you know that Zeke's 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:40.280 gonna play something. But that change of pace back is nice. 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:42.240 And that was the thing with Dunbar. I mean, Dunbar, 0:13:42.800 --> 0:13:45.679 he had some issues. They're picking up those blitzes at times, 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:48.520 I mean because they're not. That's what makes them so special, 0:13:48.800 --> 0:13:50.840 is that the fact that they're little short guys that 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:53.920 can move around, but that doesn't mean that they're good blockers, 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:56.360 you know. And Kamara, he's the guy everyone wants to 0:13:56.400 --> 0:13:59.160 compare them to him that that's great, but Kamara, you know, 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:01.360 he's he's got a little bit of sproles in him, 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:04.760 I mean as far as being compact and and you know, 0:14:05.120 --> 0:14:07.559 tough there. But I mean, you can listen to what 0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:10.640 the at least what the coaches are saying about Pollard, 0:14:11.000 --> 0:14:12.880 it seems like they're at least the lift service that 0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:14.679 they're giving is that he is a he is more 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:16.800 than just a change of pace, third down kind of back. 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:18.640 They think he's more of a complete running back. And 0:14:18.640 --> 0:14:20.280 to be honest with you, I think I kind of 0:14:20.280 --> 0:14:21.920 believe that, or at least they're going to try to 0:14:21.960 --> 0:14:25.760 play him in that role because I don't anticipate as 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:27.640 good a third down back as you think he might be. 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:30.280 Zeke's a better third down back, as good of a 0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:33.840 you know, you know, change of pace, Zeke's still a 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:37.040 good change like. Zeke can do all those things. His 0:14:37.160 --> 0:14:40.720 opportunity will be what the Cowboys typically do, which is 0:14:40.760 --> 0:14:43.840 they get to about what is that like series number 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:46.440 three or four in the game and they'll pull Zeke 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:48.600 off the field and they'll put another running back in 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:50.960 for that beginning part of that. Depending on how they're doing, 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:52.520 they'll let him stay a little bit longer, or they 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:54.560 say get out. Was it putting Zeke back in? That's 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:57.320 going to be his opportunity. So on those downs, can 0:14:57.400 --> 0:15:00.040 he do something that makes them say we have to 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:02.120 get him on the field more frequently and find a 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:03.960 role for him to be on the field. If not, 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:05.440 what ends up happening is he's just going to be 0:15:05.480 --> 0:15:07.280 the guy to spell Zeke, and that means he's got 0:15:07.280 --> 0:15:09.040 to be well rounded to do that. I just hope 0:15:09.040 --> 0:15:12.240 it's not as formulaic as it was a while ago 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:15.200 when it was like, oh, it's the Cowboys third possession 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:17.520 of the game. I guess that means it's Salford Morris time. 0:15:17.720 --> 0:15:20.360 Like there's no real rhyme or reason for it, but likes, 0:15:20.480 --> 0:15:22.600 that's just what we decided. I'm expecting that's what we're 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:24.720 gonna do, and so we're gonna do it. I hope not, 0:15:24.800 --> 0:15:28.480 because this guy's skill set is much more than that. 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:30.520 And I mean, you know, it does get tiresome to 0:15:30.560 --> 0:15:32.960 compare everybody to the Saints or even the Rams. But 0:15:33.000 --> 0:15:35.920 I mean it's like a hockey team the way that 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:38.800 like guys are running on and off the field per snap. 0:15:38.880 --> 0:15:41.560 Forget series. It's like, well, it's third and two, so 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:44.200 we want to you know, oh, Taysom Hill get out here. Yeah, 0:15:44.240 --> 0:15:46.680 you're gonna do this, And like, I'd love to see 0:15:46.720 --> 0:15:49.080 more of that. I want to see it first though. 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:51.200 I think the thing about is that's easy to say 0:15:51.760 --> 0:15:55.120 when you have a guy that's not the best runner 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:57.440 in the NFL. Like they could do that with the 0:15:57.440 --> 0:15:59.360 Saints because they had a good running back. They didn't 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:01.480 have a great run back, so you can work Kamara 0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:03.040 in there. I don't think it's the same thing with 0:16:03.040 --> 0:16:05.960 the Cowboys because the Cowboys still feel like their best 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:09.120 option is Ezekiel Elliott and so pulling him off the 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:11.000 field for anybody else, I don't know if they feel 0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:15.280 like that's a great there's no law And is that 0:16:15.400 --> 0:16:18.480 not because of his injury issues. I don't know what's 0:16:18.560 --> 0:16:20.640 going on with that. Now, there was other things, there 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:22.760 were other things that play there than just ability. I 0:16:22.800 --> 0:16:25.200 guess they didn't really do that with Gurley early in 0:16:25.200 --> 0:16:27.200 the year. Right, there's no We're do any last year either, 0:16:27.240 --> 0:16:29.000 there's no law in football that says they can't be 0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:30.760 on the field at the same time, just for whatever 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:33.040 that's worth. And Pollard spent a lot of his time 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:35.720 lined up out wide. Again, I mean, who's the other 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:39.520 back in Memphis? When don't you get The Rams drafted him? Henderson? 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:42.240 Darryl Henderson. The Rams drafted him, which to me says 0:16:42.280 --> 0:16:44.360 that they're worried about Todd Gurley because they trade it 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:46.600 up into the top one hundred to get him. So 0:16:46.920 --> 0:16:49.200 a pretty damn good player, a top one hundred pick, 0:16:49.640 --> 0:16:51.800 they still found ways to use poor They're like, you 0:16:51.840 --> 0:16:54.840 know what, in the NFC Divisional game, we went up 0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:59.280 against the Cowboys and we had Anderson and Gurley and 0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:01.280 went for almost three hundred yards on them, So we 0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:04.479 need that second guy. Maybe that maybe they're looking at 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:08.320 that way Pollard Ill. I mean, I watched tape of 0:17:08.520 --> 0:17:10.879 I've watched tape of Pollard. He does all sorts of 0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:12.760 motion in and moving. He doesn't need to be the 0:17:12.760 --> 0:17:14.440 primary guy to be able to get on the field, 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:16.800 and I would love them to do that. What I 0:17:16.840 --> 0:17:18.520 know right now, if I'm basing it on what I 0:17:18.520 --> 0:17:21.360 know right now is They've had other players with those 0:17:21.440 --> 0:17:23.480 kinds of skills that they haven't figured out how to 0:17:23.560 --> 0:17:27.040 use them that's in this offense. So until they do it, 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:28.840 I just don't know that that's something they want to 0:17:28.840 --> 0:17:31.360 do necessarily we've heard. I mean, there are you can 0:17:31.359 --> 0:17:34.560 go find them. There's so many quotes that can and 0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:38.280 should inspire optimism about what this offense could be. Gary Brown, 0:17:38.960 --> 0:17:41.120 h Kellen Moore has has said a lot of good 0:17:41.119 --> 0:17:44.560 stuff about how multiple he wants to be. Tony Pollard actually, like, 0:17:44.720 --> 0:17:48.160 unprompted during minicamp, was like, oh, Kellen Moore is a genius, 0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:51.439 Like you can already tell it would be great. Love it. 0:17:51.720 --> 0:17:54.040 At this point, it's on you to show me. It's 0:17:54.080 --> 0:17:56.240 not on me to just buy it at face value. 0:17:56.320 --> 0:17:58.480 And that's how I feel about it. You know, it's 0:17:58.480 --> 0:18:01.720 hard to imagine for me to imagine a sequel Eliott 0:18:02.040 --> 0:18:05.440 being more productive than what he already is. But I 0:18:05.600 --> 0:18:07.919 wonder if the Cowboys are able to find the right 0:18:08.040 --> 0:18:12.440 formula and incorporate this running back whoever it is in there, 0:18:13.080 --> 0:18:17.000 how that would affect a sequel Eliot's performance and productivity 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:19.720 on the field. That would be really interesting. Something that 0:18:19.760 --> 0:18:23.520 I can really imagine because he gives you, yeah, everything 0:18:23.560 --> 0:18:26.119 you can hope and imagine for it. But let me 0:18:26.119 --> 0:18:28.600 ask this question, do you guys think Zeke is You know, 0:18:28.600 --> 0:18:30.959 we've seen these kinds of backs. They can be volume 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:32.960 guys or they can be guys that can just strike 0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:34.720 at any moment. Do you think Zeke is one or 0:18:34.720 --> 0:18:36.880 the other or just kind of a mixture of the two. 0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:39.760 When you just like he needs a lot of touches 0:18:40.040 --> 0:18:42.159 volume in order to be as great as he's been 0:18:42.200 --> 0:18:45.119 so far, I think that's true to a degree, because 0:18:45.119 --> 0:18:47.800 I think a big part of Zeke's game is like 0:18:47.880 --> 0:18:50.440 the old like he's the cliche guy that gets better 0:18:50.480 --> 0:18:52.480 as the game goes. I think because he doesn't wear 0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:56.000 down and everybody else does so to a part of 0:18:56.040 --> 0:18:58.600 me agrees with that. I mean, if he were only 0:18:58.600 --> 0:19:01.000