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I'm trying to tell you about 27 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: your life today. That's I want to make conversations. It's 28 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: all about I'm your host, I'm your friend, I'm your neighbor. 29 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: I'm a person that sits around thinking about ways to 30 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: be successful in the the basis, and when I come 31 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: in on Monday, hopefully I can share those ideas with you, 32 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: because sometimes when I share them, some people don't want 33 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: to listen. Some people don't want to understand that what 34 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: I'm doing on this show every Monday is about you. 35 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: What I'm doing on this show, it's really trying to 36 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: create a relationship of success for you to uh chief 37 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: that next platform. A lot of people just don't know. 38 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 1: You may know I might just be uh you know, 39 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: as they say, re energizing you with the plan I 40 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: might just be triggering something in you to go. I 41 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: forgot about that. I didn't know I was blessed like that. 42 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:35,959 Speaker 1: I didn't know I had the ability to think like that. 43 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: Thank you. Rasean McDonald, The Black Moses is spoken again today. 44 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: He's led me to the promised land of opportunity. He 45 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 1: is making a difference in life because guess what he 46 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: cares about your life? Well, that's what my show is 47 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: about today. It's about successful people being successful in life 48 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: and using that success to reshape our neighborhoods. But I 49 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 1: guess they're using their brands to change the culture of 50 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 1: the way people think and educating everyone that being diverse wins. 51 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: When I created Neighborhood Awards, and they actually started in Houston, 52 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 1: Texas of the Hoodie Awards, and eventually a partner with 53 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: Steve Harvey, and we coached to hosted it and co 54 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 1: produced it together and sold out for fourteen straight years, 55 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: the Neighborhood Awards, That's exactly what I'm doing right now 56 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 1: with Money Making Conversation. I'm taking my success as a 57 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: business professional and using my personal experiences in life to 58 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 1: uplift the community. All my guests on Money Making Conversations 59 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: today are doing the same thing. They tell me. She's 60 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: on the line, so let me get started. My first 61 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: guest serves as an advisor to Farmer First Lady Michelle 62 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: Obama regarding high school and post secondary completion and leads 63 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: campaigns to support students effort to go to and complete college. 64 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: She's Deputy Director Reached Higher at Civic Nation. Please welcome 65 00:03:53,680 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: to Money Making Conversations. Stephanie sprout owars, I are you doing? 66 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: What are you calling me from? Stephanie d the hub 67 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: of it all? I guess you could say that. Well, 68 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: you know, I got my brother. He lives in washing 69 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: d C. He has like a full beauty and barber's alone. 70 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: So I get down there a lot. So I'm fair 71 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: familiar with the air. In fact, I was in Washington, 72 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: d C. Last week dyinging in Legal Legal Seafood, which 73 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: is located you know, look grow up down there, look good. 74 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 1: Just let you know I know about your community, that's 75 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: all you know. You know, I've been in the White 76 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: House to a couple of times, so you know, well, 77 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: I want to get you on the phone because you know, 78 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 1: I started money Making Conversations about and it's about enriching. 79 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: And I think that this show and I feel this 80 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 1: show is about when I always tell people are whenever 81 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: I talked to a sponsor and trying to get them 82 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: engaged and giving money for youth programs, a young program 83 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: I always talking about, this is a future customer, This 84 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 1: is a future taxpaying person. This is a person that 85 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: really is our future. You know, they are They're They're 86 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: the reason we should we strive. I would tell I'm 87 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: an older person, so anybody younger like you, I reach 88 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: out to. I reach I if I feel compelled. That 89 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: is my mission to give you a better opportunity to are, 90 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: an opportunity to spread your words. So when I heard 91 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: about what you were doing, you know, and then your 92 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: work history, why are you doing all this? Why? Sure? 93 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: So thank you very much. I'm really honored to be 94 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: on your show today to talk to your listeners. UM. 95 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 1: I was actually in Houston last week. We have a 96 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: partner in Houston, and it really resonated with me that 97 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: I'd be talking to some folks in a town as 98 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: big as that city, where where there's so much potential. 99 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 1: We were on the campuses the University of Houston, UM 100 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 1: and it's just it's greatly on college campuses. Whenever we 101 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: can get there, we we do so thank you first 102 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: and foremost. So UM, I do what I do honestly 103 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: because I absolutely love it and I know that it 104 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: is important for our community to be involved in college. 105 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: So Retire was started by a former First Lady, Michelle Obama, 106 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: during her time at the White House, and it was 107 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: really inspired by her own experience as a first generation 108 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: college student. She she wanted to help more young people 109 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: just like her and her brother to go to and 110 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: to graduate from college. And she knows without a shadow 111 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: of a doubt that she would not be where she 112 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: was if she had not had her college experience. Uh. 113 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: And and most importantly, she wants people to know that 114 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: she was really just like them. Uh. You know. She 115 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: was from the South Side of Chicago. Her parents didn't 116 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: go to college, but they went to work every day, 117 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: and they instilled in her brother and her that they 118 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: could do anything, but they had to have their education 119 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: to back it. Uh And it has never is never 120 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: faltered her and frankly, it's never faltered me either. So 121 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: in we worked with her to start Retire to inspire 122 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: every student in America to take charge of their future 123 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 1: year by completing their education past high school. And that's 124 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 1: at a four year traditional university what we usually think 125 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: of as college, but that also includes community college programs um. 126 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: And it also includes professional training programs and may not 127 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: we may not think of necessarily as college, but that's 128 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: really higher education. Uh. And the point is that the 129 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: twenty one century economy, uh, you know, money making moves 130 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: and high school diploma is not enough. You cannot have 131 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: a real career for at least for most of us. 132 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: You cannot have a real career without doing something past 133 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: high school. UM. And so we really wanted to help 134 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: students and their families to know all of the tools 135 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: that they needed to be able to do that after 136 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: high school. And then after the Obama administration ended in January, 137 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: the work is not over. It's not finished. We still 138 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: have a lot left to do. And so we joined 139 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: an organization called Civic Nation, which is a nonpartisan, nonprofit 140 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: organization here in d C that's designed to house public 141 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: awareness and organizing campaigns to reach audiences mostly young people. Now, 142 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: now you said you mentioned I'm a graduate of University 143 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: of Houston and Mathew mathematics in my mane and socialist. 144 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: You said you did something at the University of Houston. 145 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: I didn't want to break you up on your role. Well, 146 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: well you no, no problem. When we were we were 147 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:32,719 Speaker 1: there last week UM to do a conversation with school counselors. 148 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: And school counselors are the person in your students middle 149 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: or high school that can help them to be college 150 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: and career ready in a way that is just totally 151 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: specialized in different from anyone else in your in your school. 152 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: So we had a conversation with school counselors from across 153 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:54,719 Speaker 1: the state of Texas UM about how they can do 154 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: some more of their work and target their work in Texas. 155 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,199 Speaker 1: And we've had a few of these conversations, as we 156 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: call them our school Counseling convenient convenings. We've had them 157 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: all across the country. Texas was with this time. UM. 158 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: We've been in San Diego, We've been in Boston, We've 159 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: been here in d C. We've been in Denver. UM, 160 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: we've been all across the across the country. Where we're 161 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: doing one in Chicago coming up early next year. Just 162 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:26,079 Speaker 1: trying to really uplift one recognizing that school counselors are 163 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: the ones in your schools and your children's schools who 164 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: have all of the tools and resources needed to help 165 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: your kids get to college. And unfortunately, we have a 166 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: school councilor deficits UM in many schools, in many communities, 167 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: In many places, especially the ones that look like us 168 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 1: and your listeners, there are more school resource officers, which 169 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 1: are essentially police officers security officers in those campuses than 170 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: there are school counselors. And we're working to change that. 171 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: We're working to really empower school counselors UM, working with 172 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: some wonderful programs like the Association and American Association as 173 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: School Counselors UM to really get this message out there. 174 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: Your school counsels are important and those are the people 175 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: who can unlock these tools that your students need to 176 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: go to college. So if you don't know where to 177 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:20,719 Speaker 1: start your school counselor done, well, here's an interesting thing 178 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: about it, because you know this. The role of the 179 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: school council has not changed from when I was in 180 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: high school and middle school to now. But they are 181 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: like the school nurse. You know, you only go there 182 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: when you need them, you know, when they play such 183 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: an important role in everyday life, your life moving forward 184 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 1: and moving forward. And I think it's more like and 185 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: I'm just thinking, you know, it's been a long times 186 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: has been in high school, but you know, the councils 187 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 1: of the same people in college, and these people are 188 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 1: kind of like put on the back burner. I'm just 189 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: saying I'm not saying anything negative. I'm just saying that 190 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: how do we bring this significance or how do we 191 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: create that bars of importance that these counselors play in 192 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: developing our young people today? You know, like, you know, 193 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: we put their ports of football in high school, we 194 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: put their porting of basketball coaches and all that, but 195 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: the counselors should be just equally as important in the 196 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: world of academics. Right, You're absolutely right, And truth be told, 197 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: one of the reasons why we even began to put 198 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 1: this emphasis on school counselors was because Mrs Obama asked 199 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: us to. Uh, it became so clear to her that 200 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,719 Speaker 1: those were the ones, those were the people in your 201 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: students live would make a big difference. Um. And I 202 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: think really it's just gonna be a matter of parents 203 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: demanding it, of students demanding it. Um. So often school 204 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: counselors have lots of hats to wear in their schools. 205 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: They have one stuty, they're on pickup duty. They maybe 206 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: pop in exam across the street with the little stop 207 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: side right exactly exactly, And and much of our work 208 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: has been trying to really shine a spotlight on what 209 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:01,319 Speaker 1: their role should be in the school, in the classrooms 210 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: so that they can for college and career readiness. You 211 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: made the you made the point that the that the 212 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 1: profession haven't changed a lot. I'll challenge you that it 213 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: really has. I think, um, okay, So often you have 214 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: this sort of misnumber of this of the guidance counselor. Well, 215 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:27,439 Speaker 1: we're not calling the guidance counselors anymore. There's their school counselors. 216 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: Because that's just that's that's real old school. That's that's 217 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: old what they what they used to be doing, and 218 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: what many people think of as their counselor. Lots of 219 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: people unfortunately had negative opportunities with their counselors, may where 220 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: councilor didn't really guide them as well as they could. Well, 221 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 1: now we have programs on college campuses where school counselors 222 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: are getting the training that they need to be able 223 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 1: to support our students to be college and career ready. 224 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: You're in busted me twice now, you said, Sean, look 225 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: a here, you know your old school. Now, I'm gonna 226 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: just tell you this now. So that means that I 227 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: only know what I remember. Now, Okay, give me that, 228 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: give me my little moment here now if I remember, 229 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna guide my my, my nephew. I'm not 230 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 1: gonna guide my my, my daughter's kids, or my brother's 231 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: kids or my daughter to a counsel because I only 232 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: go to there. How could I help you? Because this 233 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,839 Speaker 1: is really interesting now because I see the core of problem. 234 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: It's about It's about changing the narrative correct, because the 235 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: narrative is previously over here where I experienced a rashane. 236 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: They're called school counselors. Now, see when you just go 237 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: there were God is counselor Okay, guess what, they're still 238 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: counselors to me. And but I want to I want 239 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: to help you. How can somebody like Rushan McDonald help you? 240 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 1: Because I got a big mouth, I got social media. 241 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: I know a lot of people. You're just on my 242 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: campus last week, so I should have been engaged with 243 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: that because guess what, I'm a mouthpiece and I understand 244 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,559 Speaker 1: what you're trying to do. When you talk about Strail Institute, 245 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: you talk to Ride, you're talking about university stud youre 246 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 1: talking about Sam Jack Junior College, you talk about community college. 247 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: That's my whole mantra. It is about college changed my life. 248 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: I change it, maybe on the reasons on this on 249 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: this radio show right now, it's because it changed my life, 250 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: and so I know the importance. I would tell people 251 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: I went to school, and I tell people I went 252 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: to school. Guess what, I just went to school. I 253 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: heard they gave your parties and someone to school. That's 254 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: what got me there. But when I got there, it 255 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: changed my life. And that's why I always tell people, 256 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: just go to college. Just show up forever. We just 257 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: get on Kevin. Go there on Wednesday when it's packed 258 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: in lunchtime and look at all those people and go 259 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: I want to be a part of that. And so 260 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: I won't to come back in the break because you 261 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: got me fired up, not missing. You got me fired 262 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: up because you called me old school. You told me 263 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: that the school counselor there. I know their school counsels now, 264 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: but guess what I'm reacting to my past experiences. How 265 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: can I how can you tap into rich Sean McDonald 266 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: this morning and when it plays back on our Hot podcast, 267 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: when it plays back on Apple Podcast, when it plays 268 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: around the world, it's telling people I want to be 269 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: a boss of what you guys are doing. We'll be 270 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: right back with more. It's definitely sproud Owens. Whoa girl. 271 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: You gott be fired up? Now We're gonna change the 272 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: world to day y'all hanging out, We'll be right back. Hey, 273 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: welcome back. This is Rashan McDonald, your host the Money 274 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: Making Conversations on the phone. I have my guests up. 275 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: She's the deputy director reached higher at Civic Nations. Uh, 276 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: please welcome back on the phone. Stephanie s proud Owens. 277 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: How you know Stephanie great? Stephanie ever tell you something? 278 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: When I left I was hyped now because you know, 279 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: how do we flip the script? How do we start 280 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: promoting and moving to the fore front. You know, when 281 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: the cheerleaders go on the court, they'll give me a seed, 282 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: give me you give me, oh, give me, oh, give 283 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: me k spell? You know, so we can get them 284 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: excited about counselor. So we gotta unders and that the 285 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: key roles that these counsels are playing, these school counsels 286 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: are planning and guiding our young Americans to greater heights 287 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: in the academic world or the professional world or trade world. 288 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: But the main goal and reach in your program is 289 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: to get people to continue education past high school. Correct correct, correct, 290 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: So really the biggest thing we can do is they 291 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: go to your go to your counselor. UM. You mentioned 292 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: earlier that that we tend to only go to our 293 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: school counsels when we need them and like like the 294 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: school nurse, and that shouldn't be the case. Go talk 295 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: to your counselor if for all of your listeners, now 296 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: find out what the name is of your school counselor 297 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: at your child school. Hopefully there's more than one at 298 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: that school, but know that person's name, be in touch 299 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: with them, Be in contact with them just like you 300 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: would any of their teachers, UM and and make sure 301 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: that they know you, and make sure that they know 302 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: your child, because they really are the people who will know, Hey, 303 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: you know Tommy's to go to this college or Tommy 304 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: should consider maybe this program, UM and they'll know also 305 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: how to get the money to go to college, how 306 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 1: to get the other tools, how to help you to 307 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 1: fill out the faster, which I definitely want to talk 308 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: about today. It is incredibly important to you talk to 309 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 1: the floors yours. I brought you on this show because 310 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: there's significance, and I want to bring you back on 311 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: the show because I know it's not enough time to 312 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: really explore what we're trying to do, because I know 313 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: in branding and marketing we just tipped the iceberg of 314 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: getting worried out. And I'm just letting you know you 315 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 1: have a friend, you have a fan, and in this 316 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,479 Speaker 1: post high school world, because it changed my life and 317 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: I constantly promoted to everyone give it a shot, you know, 318 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 1: give it a shot for you jump on that forklift, 319 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 1: or for you just do some blue collar work because 320 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: you think that's the only goal, to drive that truck. 321 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying there's nothing wrong with that. I'm 322 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: talking about in the early stages of your life. You know, 323 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 1: this is when you get to formulate the base, the 324 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: Christian charge, the options and stuff like that. Yet those 325 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 1: are that's a different conversation when you seventeen eighteen nineteen, 326 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 1: that's youth, and there's a youth you should look at options. 327 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: And that's what we're talking about right now. That's exactly 328 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 1: what we're talking about. That's that's really all this is. 329 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: You know, my my mother always has said to me, 330 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 1: you gotta have options, Stephanie, have options. Don't put yourself 331 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: in a box so that you can't have options. And 332 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: that's what this does. So um, one of the things 333 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 1: that I do want to share with your audience is 334 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 1: a tool that we have called up Next. And up 335 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: Next is our free, evidence based texting tools that offers 336 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 1: personalized support on all things related to getting to college 337 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: and completing college. So we have a system where we 338 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 1: send text messages to your students. We know you know. 339 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: I know, I call you old school, but I'm old 340 00:18:52,760 --> 00:19:00,479 Speaker 1: school this please, I suppose the old school. I'm problems 341 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: out with there people. I don't run from my age. 342 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: In order to accomplish something life, you have to get older, 343 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: so keep but I know how to flip it to 344 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 1: the young people though, I know how to flip it 345 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: to the young people. So one one of the things 346 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: that we knew pretty early on while we Don't be Tired, 347 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 1: was that we needed to reach the teenagers exactly where 348 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: they are, and it's absolutely amazing, as Mrs Obama is, 349 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: we know that students weren't reading white House dot gov 350 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: every day for our updates, so we needed to reach 351 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 1: kids where they are. And we know that kids are 352 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: on their cell phone. For better for worse, they are 353 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: on their cell phone. So we started this text messaging tool, 354 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: like I said, called up Next, and we send by 355 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: real people, real students, including myself and my colleagues. We 356 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 1: have students here from George Washington University who are helping 357 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 1: us to send these messages to students about the college, 358 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 1: certain about completing their their student aid packages UM and 359 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: about even student loan repayments. And we know that money 360 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 1: is the biggest barrier that students have been going to 361 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 1: college and it's the thing that keeps you up at night, 362 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: and we want to help you not to stay up 363 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: at night thinking about that. So it's quick and it's 364 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: easy to enroll, is totally free, and we don't spam 365 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 1: your students. We don't sell their information, we don't send 366 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: them ads or anything like that. We only share the 367 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 1: most important reminders to keep students and their parents on 368 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: track to college. So you're asking for people listening to 369 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: the show and go up next dot com. Is that? 370 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: What is so? So if you go to better make 371 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 1: Room dot org, better make room dot org dot org 372 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: got the sign up information is there, but I'll give 373 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 1: you the information right now. So, if your child is 374 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: a high school senior, they should text their first and 375 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: their last name to two forced zero six two three 376 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 1: eight three one nine. That's two four zero six to 377 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: three eight three one nine. And if you or your 378 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: child is already in college and need to know what 379 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: to make that next step, how to stay because remember 380 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 1: our goal is not just to get you to college, 381 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: but to get you to a complete college. You are 382 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: in college now, your four year school or two year school, 383 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: wherever you are, you should text two four zero six 384 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: two three two seven eight nine. Let me me so 385 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: this is interesting. This is interesting. So I'm assuming you 386 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 1: have alliances with other programs that can can work out scholars. 387 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: Your programs with these students are How does this work? 388 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: Because now you because you're you're promoting the whole prospect 389 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 1: of getting to college and completing college. What are the 390 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: other services is a networking opportunities that are available once 391 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: they submit their information because like a good friend of mine, 392 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: to reach the price. She you know, she has the 393 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: National College Allounge which she enables young people to apply 394 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 1: in her program and they can get scholarships from HBC 395 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: used to Harvard, to us l A, to all all 396 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 1: the colleges around the country. What are the connected, doctor 397 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: want to see the connect the dots with your program? 398 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: What does it go from there? Once they text, Once 399 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 1: you text, the most important thing that we can help 400 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,360 Speaker 1: you do is to complete the FAFTA and the FASTA 401 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: is the Free Application for Federal Student aids. Now, it 402 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: gets a bad rap by a lot of people. A 403 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: lot of people think that it's a it's a hard 404 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: form to fill out, it's you know, it takes a 405 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 1: lot of time. But but it really isn't. It really isn't. 406 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: It is the key to unlocking every single val you 407 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 1: can get to go to college, whether it be a 408 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: federal grant that you don't have to pay back, or 409 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: if it is student loan or for many many scholarships, 410 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: you have to fill out the STAFFSA And essentially what 411 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 1: it does is it really does unlock billions of dollars 412 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:18,439 Speaker 1: every single year. We leave money on the table in 413 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: farough government that you could use to go to college, 414 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: and the students who leave that money on the table 415 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,880 Speaker 1: are oftentimes the students who need it the most and 416 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: who can really get this free money, free money in 417 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: a form of grants that you do not have to 418 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 1: pay back. And unless you complete this form, you can't 419 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: you can't access it. You just you just can't. So 420 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: it can be a little intimidating, but it is worth 421 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,439 Speaker 1: every single moment. And that's again, that's where if you 422 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: don't know where to start, if you don't know how 423 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: to do it, if you get lost in the shuffles, 424 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 1: that's when you also go to your school counselor, because 425 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: they know how to fill out this form, they know 426 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: what documents you need, they know what tools you need, 427 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: and they can really help you do that. But our 428 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: tool will help get you there. You may need to 429 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: find someone in your school to help you finish it, 430 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 1: but we're gonna get you there, and as much as possible, 431 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: we're gonna walk you through those steps to help you 432 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 1: finish because, like I said, it's not an automated program. 433 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 1: It's me on my cell phone texting back to you 434 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 1: so I can help you get there. We have counsels 435 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: across the country here in d C in other places 436 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: who can help you to fill out this form. But 437 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: if there's nothing that that your listeners don't remember except 438 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:36,360 Speaker 1: for this is to fill out the fast at fasta 439 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: dot gov for F A F s A dot gov. 440 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: This is amazing information that you're delivering. Give us one 441 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: more time because I don't want to be I don't 442 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: want people got it first time, the whole texting process, 443 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 1: and where do they get from participating and filling out 444 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: the faster Absolutely so they will get what we call 445 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: nudget Essentially. We we have seen the research that shows 446 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: that people, especially students in this age group, respond to 447 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 1: these nudgets that we give. So by texting students, I'll 448 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: give you back that number again. We will help you 449 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: one to fill out the faster. We will remind your 450 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: students to take the S A T or the A 451 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 1: C T. We will remind you to start your college 452 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: essays because right now the process has already begun. The 453 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 1: fast for next year opened on October one. It's not 454 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 1: too late. But the people who do it earlier so 455 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 1: are the ones who get the first bite at that apple, 456 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,360 Speaker 1: and they get the most money. So you don't want 457 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: to wait. You don't want to wait until you know 458 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 1: till everything is due in in there too late. If 459 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 1: you start right now, you work on those college essays, 460 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: you get your faster completed, you fill out the application, 461 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: you can sit back and wait and see what happens. 462 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: And there is a college for everyone. I fully believe 463 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: that with everything in my heart, that there is a 464 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: college out there for every single person in this country. Well, 465 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: it was the college out there for me, you know. 466 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 1: And uh, and I'm just gonna let you know, um 467 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: my counselor, Uh, when I was still you know, wondering 468 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: at bottom tea whatever. When I left high school, I 469 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: drove a fork forklift, uh until I broke a guy's 470 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: head because I didn't know what I was doing. I 471 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: worked at the post office, so I was out there 472 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 1: just trying to find myself. For one thing, I remember, 473 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: my counselor made me fill out the application for the 474 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 1: University of Houston. She said, feel it out, you you 475 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: will qualify. So that step I know the importance of that. 476 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: If I don't feel that application out, then guess what. 477 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: Because I was still like there, I was driving forklift. 478 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: I just looked I just gotta I was just happy 479 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 1: to be out of high school. So I know what 480 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 1: the importance of your conversation and what you're trying to do. 481 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,640 Speaker 1: And I'm always just money making conversation is about providing 482 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: it and for nation. So if you don't mind, if 483 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: you can send me uh talking about talent booker, send 484 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,880 Speaker 1: me any flyers I can post on my Money Making 485 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 1: Conversations Facebook page and the Twitter account, because this is 486 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: what we're trying to do. We're trying to reach not 487 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: only the students but their parents who wonder and sometimes 488 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: they can't push their kids to that next level because 489 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: they feel they can't afford it themselves, so they won't 490 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: out of embarrassment. They just allow their child to just 491 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 1: take the secondary opportunity instead of fulfilling the dreams that 492 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 1: they want their kids to say, this phone call is 493 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 1: telling me and telling everybody there's options out there. Fill 494 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: out the paperwork, get your name in the lottery so 495 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,719 Speaker 1: you can get a shot at the next level, just 496 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 1: like everybody else. That's all this abs absolutely right, because 497 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 1: you know other other kids aren't being told that they 498 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: can't go. They're being told to go, and it makes 499 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: all the difference in the world. It makes all the 500 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: difference in the world. Um, I am passionate about this 501 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: work here. All has changed my life. It changed my 502 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,159 Speaker 1: parents life, it changed my grandparents life. And I know 503 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: it's out a shadow of a dept. But I would 504 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,360 Speaker 1: not be where I am because of college. I got 505 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 1: to work with Michelle Obama. I mean, how many people 506 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: get to say that, But I know that from my 507 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 1: path that I would not have been able to follow 508 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: that dream had it not been for my college education. 509 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: And I recognize that not everybody wants to do what 510 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: I did. Not everybody wants to work in Washington, and 511 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: you don't have to, but like you said before, it 512 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: gives you the options you lift yourself and your family 513 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: to the next level. Changed my life. Where are my friend, Stephanie, 514 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: I have to go. I hope you come back if 515 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: we can schedule loose in because you know, I know 516 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 1: your brand now I'm focused, I know what to dive 517 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: in on and we get this word out and but 518 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 1: to me, get those social media band to me so 519 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: I can start putting it on my social media and 520 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: get the word because it's about consistent marketing, consistent brandy 521 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 1: that people started understanding exactly the message you're trying to 522 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: put out. Again, thank you for taking the time to 523 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: be on my show and we'll be back soon. This 524 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: Rashan McDonald, host of Money Becking Conversation, Bars and Girls 525 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: Club of America. Frank Sanchez will be coming up next. 526 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: Thank you ready. Hi, This Rashan McDonald, the host of 527 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations. My guest is on the line. It's 528 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: time to bring him on the show. My next guest 529 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: is the National vice President of Sports Entertainment and Alumni 530 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: Alumni Development for the Bars and Girls Club of America. 531 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 1: In the Chronicle of Philanthropy ranked the Bars and Girls 532 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: Club as the number one youth organization for the twenty 533 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: three straight year. Please work on the Money Making Conversation, 534 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: Frank Sanchez, Thank you, Frank. What are you calling from? Frank, 535 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 1: I'm calling from our headquarters in Atlanta, Georgia. Oh my, 536 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: you know something. I just knew you're gonna say something 537 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 1: like l A or New York. But you in my hometown, 538 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: which is Atlanta and also Houston, Texas. Were about in 539 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: the Atlanta, Georgia? Are you set up at UM on 540 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 1: fifteenth in Peach Street, right in the heart of Midtown. 541 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: Um been here for our national headquarters. Moved here about 542 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: twenty five years ago. We were in New York, United Nations. 543 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 1: Because we wanted a location where we can find the 544 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 1: best employees in the country. We moved here to Atlanta, Georgia. 545 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: But my friend, I'm I'm not mad at you move 546 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 1: or enjoy Atlanta is the atmosphere is great, and you 547 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: do have a straw and you know that in the 548 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: economic lifestyle is lower and much more affordable, which is 549 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: also great to finding the right people and also for 550 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: your own personal well being. That is true. Well, tell 551 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 1: me about the mission. And first of all, I'm a 552 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of Boars and Girls Club. I 553 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: got all this information I want to I don't want 554 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: to jump in front of and tell the story that 555 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: you should be telling. So I'm gonna throw out some 556 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 1: coutions initially so we can build a relationship or what 557 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: exactly Boars and Club, Because, man, you have been there forever. 558 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: I used the word forever in a very very proud 559 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: manner because it means that over that time you've affected 560 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: and changed a lot of lives. And I know in 561 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 1: the short period of time that I've been into the world. 562 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: You know, because my life has been about I went 563 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,479 Speaker 1: to college and I got I started doing stand up 564 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 1: comments on a right television show. You know, I've been 565 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,479 Speaker 1: donating here and there. But your whole focus has been 566 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: about changing young people's lives. What just the mission of 567 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 1: the Boys and Girls Club of America. Our mission, it's 568 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: pretty simple. We want to enable all young people, especially 569 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: those who meet us most, to reach their full potential 570 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: as successful citizens of America. And we do that through 571 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: our four thousand, three hundred US nationwide are sixty one 572 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: paid professionals. Uh. And every day some five hundred thousand 573 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 1: kids in America walking to a Boys and Girls Club 574 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: and have an experience around education, leadership and um you know, 575 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 1: good um education, character and leadership and healthy lifestyles. And 576 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: we want to create We are the gatekeepers of the 577 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: after school time where you know, as you and uh, 578 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: you know, in my lifetime going up in New York, 579 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 1: after school was the most dangerous time for young people 580 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 1: and boys and girls to have filled that void every day, uh, 581 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: for hundreds of thousands of kids. Well, well, lis'sen not 582 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: just say hundreds of thousands. GOT Bars and Girls Club 583 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 1: annually served four million young people through membership and community 584 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: outreach and forty three hundred clubs facility that you mentioned earlier. 585 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: The thing that kind of when I was, when I 586 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 1: was going through breaking dollars, all this information that was 587 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 1: sitting and sent to me. Now I wanted to explain 588 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: exactly what they information that I'm about to put out 589 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 1: to you. It says one thousand five name for school 590 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: based clubs. What is that? When you say that five 591 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: and one tho, what is a school based club? That's 592 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 1: a great question, great question, and you know there are 593 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 1: UM traditional boys and Girls clubs are building based operations. 594 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 1: They are boys and girls to facilities that stands alone. 595 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: So a kid typically leaves school and goes to a 596 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: facility called boys and Girls clubs. A UM school based 597 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 1: site is after school boys and girls stuff has their 598 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 1: location on the school campus and we serve kids in 599 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: that school and other kids in the community on the 600 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 1: school site. So the allow has allowed us to expand 601 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:48,959 Speaker 1: our reach with a partner that is a natural partner 602 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: for us. Kids go from school and they have a 603 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 1: place to go after school, and our school based sites 604 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 1: are a large segment of our population, as well as 605 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 1: our military site and I was about to go to 606 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 1: that because that I didn't know about the military sites. 607 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 1: You know, when you say that that that that was 608 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,320 Speaker 1: new information to me. You know, you have four and 609 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: eight and one Bars and Girl Close affiliated youth centers 610 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 1: on US military installations worldwide. How does that how does 611 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 1: that relationship work? Well, it goes back in twenty five years. 612 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 1: It started with our Desert Storm program, and uh, it 613 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:26,760 Speaker 1: just makes natural sense when parents, uh and our military 614 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: men and women are deployed, there's a gap with who's 615 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: serving their kids with quality programs. And we had we 616 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 1: started a partnership with the military some twenty five years 617 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: ago and uh it is extended now to reach a 618 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: significant number of young people. Um. But again, as parents 619 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 1: are the boys, who's working with those young people. So 620 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 1: it's the natural fit for Boys and Girls Clubs of 621 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 1: America to fill that board to work with young people 622 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,280 Speaker 1: during that time when their parents are serving our country. 623 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 1: And that's what Boys and Girls Club is about. It's 624 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: doing anything we can to serve communities, kids and families. 625 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting that when I when I hear 626 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: all this information come to me because you know, and 627 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna bring out these organizations because their youth 628 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 1: or organizations. You know, you know the Girls College, the 629 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 1: bos Boys College of the y m c A, you know, 630 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 1: and then you have the Bars and Girls Club of America. Now, 631 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:27,839 Speaker 1: I think strategy wise, you guys using celebrities spokespeople are 632 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 1: are celebrity mentors. They publicly communicate it's really really done. 633 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 1: Wonders for your branding and marketing of what you're doing 634 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 1: at the Bars and Girls Club? Am I correct? It 635 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 1: has um. There's two real signature moments in our history 636 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: that probably started around the same time. The first is 637 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 1: our partnership with Major League Baseball, and if you're watching 638 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,800 Speaker 1: any of the World Series, you'll see behind home plate 639 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 1: Boys and Girls Clubs of America. Major League Baseball has 640 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,320 Speaker 1: been a supporter of us. We've been the official charity 641 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 1: for close to twenty years twenty years plus. The second 642 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 1: thing that happened was about twenty five years ago. This 643 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 1: young man came up to Enzel Washington and said, I'm 644 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,280 Speaker 1: gonna say his name. I was gonna say his day, Frankfurt. 645 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 1: He's the man. Though he is the man, Denzel is 646 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 1: the man, and he's been our national spokesperson along with 647 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 1: Jennifer Lopez, But Denzel has been our national spokesperson for 648 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 1: almost twenty five years, and there is a direct line 649 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 1: between us being a charity that most people knew the 650 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 1: good work, but didn't We didn't have that that face, 651 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 1: and when Denzel came in, he has been the face 652 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 1: of our charity with Jennifer Lopez for the past two decades. 653 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 1: And we also have about a hundred ambassadors. You do. 654 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 1: I saw that picture, man, that picture. I don't know 655 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,799 Speaker 1: how you got out all together. Maybe that was photoshop. 656 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,360 Speaker 1: How you got all in that picture together, from Terence 657 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 1: Howard to Jennifer Lopez to dead Sel, just name a few, 658 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 1: because it's it's I It's just important that people understand 659 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,360 Speaker 1: that was key man because you know, having a Denzel 660 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 1: come on the commercial, having Lopez, that's millions of dollars 661 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 1: in marketing that you you connect the dots all immediately, 662 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 1: especially social world and the digital world. Just a smart 663 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 1: way of staying topical and staying relevant. Correct. That is correct, 664 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 1: And as a nonprofit, you know, we have to be 665 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 1: sensitive to how we utilize the utilize our dollars, and 666 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,839 Speaker 1: advertising is a space that we don't spend a lot 667 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 1: of money on. You know, we have to rely on uh, 668 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 1: these types of partnerships, these types of relationships to get 669 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 1: our name out there. UH and UH it's a critical 670 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 1: way for us to stay relevant. It's also a critical 671 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 1: way for us to stay relevant with our teams and 672 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,759 Speaker 1: our kids in the community. They want to be they 673 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,800 Speaker 1: want to be in a place where they know their influencers, 674 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 1: want to be involved with. You know, we currently have 675 00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:01,400 Speaker 1: a partnership with Katie Perry are and you know, Katy 676 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:05,720 Speaker 1: Perry is um It's amazing what she's doing for every 677 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 1: every ticket sold will receive some money for that. But 678 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 1: more importantly, she has her dancers and musicians visiting clubs. 679 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 1: He is visiting clubs country again. It just gives us 680 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 1: a way to be relevant and to inspire our young 681 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 1: people that they can be great, just like the people 682 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 1: that we are surround ourselves with. Now you create these 683 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,799 Speaker 1: strategic allowances. That's that's just your one of your one 684 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,840 Speaker 1: of your primary roles. Correct, that is one of my 685 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:39,839 Speaker 1: primary roles. I've been blessed to have some strong relationships 686 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:43,920 Speaker 1: over the years, and those relationships, UM, as long as 687 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 1: they live in the spirit of children, usually manifest into 688 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 1: good things. Cool. I've got to go take a break. 689 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,120 Speaker 1: We're gonna be right back and want to come back, 690 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 1: Mr Sanchez, I want to talk about the clubs that 691 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,880 Speaker 1: are in public housing and the clubs that are on 692 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,400 Speaker 1: Native lands. Like I said, all this information has just 693 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 1: been sent to me. I went online and saw it. 694 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 1: I brought you on the show just to educate me, 695 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:05,799 Speaker 1: and I feel if you educate me, you're gonna tell 696 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 1: the world more about the great program that you guys 697 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:13,320 Speaker 1: are doing every day, affecting four million annually. This is 698 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 1: money making conversation. We'll be right back. Hi. This re 699 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 1: shot mcgull I'm back with money making conversations. On the 700 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,840 Speaker 1: phone is my guests. The national vice president of Sports 701 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 1: Entertaining and Alumni Development for the Bars and Clubs Bars 702 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,799 Speaker 1: and Girls Club of America, Mr Frank Sanchez. How you're 703 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 1: doing Frank, Hey, I'm great. Thank you very much for 704 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 1: having me on your show. Thank you, thank you for 705 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,439 Speaker 1: helping me spread the word of positivity because my show 706 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,319 Speaker 1: to day is really about successful people who are making 707 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,560 Speaker 1: a difference by uplifting the community. Because a lot of 708 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 1: people don't realize that if the youth of America can 709 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:49,960 Speaker 1: become customers, they will become taxpayers, they will become voters, 710 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,319 Speaker 1: and so how you shape them young, it's how they 711 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 1: will impact our country as they become adults. And that's 712 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 1: why programs like this. What is the age age range 713 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 1: for the Bars Girls Club of America? Young people usually 714 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 1: arrive at about six years old and uh stay through 715 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 1: their teen years. We kind of peak six to five 716 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 1: thirteen and then you know, we grapple. We we we 717 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 1: keep our teams around. We have a new digital strategy 718 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 1: that will allow our teams not only to advance their 719 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:24,279 Speaker 1: skills digitally with school, with jobs and careers, but we'll 720 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,960 Speaker 1: keep our teams aligned with Boys and Girls Clubs through 721 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 1: their seventeen and eighteen years. Now. Myself, myself started at 722 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 1: six years old and have never left. It's been a 723 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 1: part of my life. That's awesome. That's awesome to hear. 724 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 1: Now my mar Show producer r J. He's from Alabama, 725 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,799 Speaker 1: and he was talking about his experience. He's a fan 726 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,359 Speaker 1: of the Bars and Girls Club of America and he 727 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 1: was telling me like he goes back every year just 728 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,879 Speaker 1: to volunteer and participate. But he also says that it's 729 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 1: not packed like it was when he was a young man. 730 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,320 Speaker 1: Coming up. Is there a reason for that, as is 731 00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,759 Speaker 1: funding issues now or or my thing? It's something that 732 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,840 Speaker 1: only he's experiencing in all about well, Um, you know 733 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,759 Speaker 1: it's interesting. I just left Alabama. I was in Opahaika, Alabama, 734 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 1: just a few short days ago, uh, and I was 735 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,440 Speaker 1: at a at a club out there, and it was 736 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 1: packed to the brim. I think what happens now is 737 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:20,640 Speaker 1: that there's so many uh options for young people. Right. 738 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,239 Speaker 1: This device that's in our hand every day comes an 739 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 1: option for young people. And so Boys and Girls clubs 740 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:30,799 Speaker 1: we strive. We strive to be contemporary tech centers in 741 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 1: our clubs. We have computers in our clubs, but we 742 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,239 Speaker 1: still focus on relationships with young people that can transform 743 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:44,000 Speaker 1: their lives. So I think, um, uh that as we compete, 744 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,360 Speaker 1: you know, our competition has always been technology in the streets, 745 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,239 Speaker 1: and we're trying our best to make sure that we 746 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:55,719 Speaker 1: stay relevant uh and and in time with what kids need. Um. So, 747 00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 1: as you talked about funding, there's always funding is always 748 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:05,600 Speaker 1: a opportunity for our clubs. They need the dollars to survive. 749 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 1: They're they're funded by uh those dollars to continue to 750 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,880 Speaker 1: support these kids in their communities. So UH, it is 751 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:18,560 Speaker 1: a critical part of our movement that we rely on America. 752 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:23,759 Speaker 1: We rely on corporate we rely on individual donations to 753 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,879 Speaker 1: support our local clubs nation one cool. Let me read 754 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:31,800 Speaker 1: a statement from your from the from the website. UH. 755 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,560 Speaker 1: Clubs play an important role in providing a safe space 756 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:39,600 Speaker 1: to exercise, competing team sports, and established lifelong friendships. Teams 757 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,960 Speaker 1: who stay involved in the club are more likely than 758 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,439 Speaker 1: their peers to have to have healthy habits, including being 759 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:49,760 Speaker 1: physically active and abstaining from abstaining from risk of behaviors 760 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:54,360 Speaker 1: like drinking alcohol, smoking, and using marijuana. Eight four of 761 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 1: Boars and Girls Club twelfth grade report abstaining from alcohol, 762 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:04,000 Speaker 1: compared with fifty percent sent of twelfth graders nationally. That's powerful. 763 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,759 Speaker 1: It is a powerful statement, and it's really based on 764 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,680 Speaker 1: the great programs we have on clubs, the relationships that 765 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:16,680 Speaker 1: are club staff develop with young people and raising the standards, 766 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,480 Speaker 1: raising the goals for our young people. You know all 767 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,000 Speaker 1: of us, UM, you said this earlier, you talked, We 768 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:25,399 Speaker 1: talked about Denzel Washington, and in two thousand and six 769 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,200 Speaker 1: he wrote a book called The Hand to Guide Me, 770 00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,960 Speaker 1: And Denzel said, listen, everybody knows I'm successful, right, they 771 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:34,000 Speaker 1: look at me now, but they don't know who helped 772 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,480 Speaker 1: me become successful. Who was the hand that guided me. 773 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,840 Speaker 1: And we had the privilege of interviewing about seventy people, 774 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,680 Speaker 1: and every one of them, from presidents to generals to 775 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,080 Speaker 1: leaders and industries, all said that it was a person 776 00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,080 Speaker 1: who helped guide them to success. And that person, when 777 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,759 Speaker 1: they do it right, can help them navigate through the 778 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:57,600 Speaker 1: tough times and tough decisions like alcohol, like drugs, like 779 00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:01,920 Speaker 1: inappropriate relationships. And that's what our youth development professionals do 780 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,200 Speaker 1: every day at clubs. So um, that data is a 781 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,480 Speaker 1: direct reflection of the great work our team do at 782 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:12,000 Speaker 1: local clubs and the programs that supported them. And that 783 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,680 Speaker 1: that's why I wanted to read that, because a lot 784 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,319 Speaker 1: of programs can't say that, and and sometimes you have 785 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,640 Speaker 1: to let somebody else tut your horn, and that right now, 786 00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:23,439 Speaker 1: I'm tuting your horn, my friend, because it's important that 787 00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,920 Speaker 1: programs like this give kids options. I always tell me 788 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,960 Speaker 1: that's so, that's true. Idle mind do do idol craziness. 789 00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,520 Speaker 1: And so when you talk about these people who guided you, 790 00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,719 Speaker 1: like I had a number of people who kept me 791 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,720 Speaker 1: aligned like I was. I was one of those students gifted, 792 00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,160 Speaker 1: but boy, I was all over the place. I had 793 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:43,680 Speaker 1: a lot of people to keep pushing me back on 794 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:47,480 Speaker 1: the road to successful. Brother I I wrote on that 795 00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,520 Speaker 1: gravel and be about to head it for that ditch, 796 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:51,799 Speaker 1: and they go, no, no, no, no, no, come bring up, 797 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,279 Speaker 1: come back here. And I remember Ms. Trailer, you know, 798 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,680 Speaker 1: she's my biology dude. I remember Mrs Nelson, you know 799 00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,440 Speaker 1: she was my math dude. And all these people in 800 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,520 Speaker 1: high school and in college, I can remember not only 801 00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 1: you know, my fraternity brothers kept me focused. You know, college, 802 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,080 Speaker 1: when I worked at part time jobs, they kept me focused. 803 00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:12,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm parents of students that were my roommates. 804 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,960 Speaker 1: They saw things in me. And when you're special, you 805 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:19,320 Speaker 1: know you're different, you you can you can make a difference. 806 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:23,399 Speaker 1: And I always say that saying positive things to young 807 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:27,359 Speaker 1: people really is the key. And secondly, it's keeping young 808 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:31,440 Speaker 1: people in a positive environment is the biggest key. Because 809 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,480 Speaker 1: if you're going around, if you tell if all your 810 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:37,800 Speaker 1: kids here, they can't make it, they're stupid, they are criminal. 811 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,680 Speaker 1: You know you're gonna get arrested. You're going to jail 812 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,480 Speaker 1: before you hear thirty. If you if that's if that's 813 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,920 Speaker 1: what you're here, it's going to happen. It's going to happen. 814 00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,359 Speaker 1: But if you around, people are telling you you can 815 00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,479 Speaker 1: be successful. And that's what the Boys and Girls Club 816 00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:55,440 Speaker 1: or America's telling people, young people especially, you can make 817 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,200 Speaker 1: it happen. You can be Come to us. We have 818 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:02,040 Speaker 1: nothing but positive things to say about you. We won't 819 00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,640 Speaker 1: tell you you're special, and that's really the core of 820 00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:08,880 Speaker 1: your success. Correct Uh, that is the core of our success. 821 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,480 Speaker 1: A positive affirmation is a big part of our tool 822 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:16,520 Speaker 1: kit to help young people. But it's also setting expectations. 823 00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:21,919 Speaker 1: Having young people understand that there are expectations and when 824 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:25,360 Speaker 1: you exceed those expectations, we're gonna recognize you, We're gonna 825 00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:30,000 Speaker 1: guide you, we're gonna allow you to explore new opportunities. 826 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:36,400 Speaker 1: There's there's secret source to our work recognition, strong positive relationships. Uh. 827 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,080 Speaker 1: The more time we spend with kids, the more opportunity 828 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:42,200 Speaker 1: for them to be successful. So there's there's a secret 829 00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:46,080 Speaker 1: source to the success of these local clubs. But positive 830 00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:50,560 Speaker 1: affirmation and setting goals and aspirations is part of that. 831 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:54,520 Speaker 1: And um, we are we have a hundred and fifty 832 00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:58,319 Speaker 1: seven years of experience doing that. You may not know this, sir, 833 00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,360 Speaker 1: but you know you talk to about some fine other 834 00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:07,680 Speaker 1: youth organizations out Great YMC a great organization. Boys and 835 00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:11,279 Speaker 1: Girls Club is an American made organization. It was made here, 836 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,040 Speaker 1: it was developed here, and it's a hundred and fifty 837 00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,920 Speaker 1: seven years old. Uh And we've been working with kids 838 00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:22,080 Speaker 1: and communities for for that long. Well, here's what's important 839 00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,799 Speaker 1: to me is that you don't run you know, certain organizations, 840 00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,480 Speaker 1: you know they basically talking to a certain group of 841 00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,880 Speaker 1: people all the time. It was two things that stood 842 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,080 Speaker 1: out for me when I did my research and my 843 00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,560 Speaker 1: staff gave me information was the two hundred and nineties 844 00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:41,840 Speaker 1: six clubs in public housing and a hundred and seventy 845 00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:47,720 Speaker 1: five clubs on Native lands. Those can be those public 846 00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:52,080 Speaker 1: housing and Native Americans can oftentimes be of a gidden 847 00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:55,600 Speaker 1: group of people. But you guys have chosen to go 848 00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,200 Speaker 1: in and go Look, you're important to us, you have 849 00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:01,040 Speaker 1: a voice. We want to give you the same opportunity 850 00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:04,120 Speaker 1: to experience with every other kid is experienced it in America. 851 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:08,719 Speaker 1: That to me is way powerful, Frank, that is a 852 00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:12,200 Speaker 1: powerful statement. But it is part of our mission. You know, 853 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,839 Speaker 1: we want to enable all young people, especially those who 854 00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:18,480 Speaker 1: need us most. That's the corvis, especially those who need 855 00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,680 Speaker 1: us most. And when you talk about kids in public housing, 856 00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,879 Speaker 1: they need us most. There are food deserts. They live 857 00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:31,280 Speaker 1: in food deserts where um, you know, the closest healthy 858 00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:35,560 Speaker 1: choice maybe two three, four miles away. And you talked 859 00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:39,560 Speaker 1: about Native Americans and their food deserts. Somebody may have 860 00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,279 Speaker 1: to drive an hour an hour and a half to 861 00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,920 Speaker 1: get a healthy choice for food. That's where boys and girls, 862 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:47,960 Speaker 1: that's why they need us most. That's where we go. 863 00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:54,440 Speaker 1: We've been involved with Native Americans for some twenty five years. 864 00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:58,160 Speaker 1: We have been really the only youth service agency that 865 00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:02,560 Speaker 1: has been there more than two decades servicing young people. 866 00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:08,279 Speaker 1: Uh and it is critical work. Juvenile diabetes rates on 867 00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:13,600 Speaker 1: Native American lands is tragic, tragic. When you think about 868 00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:17,680 Speaker 1: alcohol abuse on Native American lands, it's tragic and boys 869 00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,640 Speaker 1: and girls stuff goes in there. And our goal is 870 00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:23,120 Speaker 1: again to help these young people during critical hours to 871 00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:27,120 Speaker 1: make good decisions, make good choices. And we've got great 872 00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:30,000 Speaker 1: alumni that have come out of that young actor named 873 00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,960 Speaker 1: Martin Sessamia, who you'll be hearing a lot of in 874 00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:38,120 Speaker 1: the next year, golfer, notable gay just great people that 875 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,719 Speaker 1: have experienced the Boys and Girls Club and UH have 876 00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:46,160 Speaker 1: overcome great obstacles to become successful. My friend, I want 877 00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:47,640 Speaker 1: to call you my friend. Like I said, I have 878 00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:49,759 Speaker 1: a home in Atlanta, George of view on mine. I'm 879 00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,839 Speaker 1: gonna drop by, shake your hands and if you can 880 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:56,440 Speaker 1: use any of my skill set, whether it's social brandy know, 881 00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:58,400 Speaker 1: come back on my show and take you have a 882 00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:02,360 Speaker 1: special event, feel free to use Rashan McDonald. Okay, Frank, 883 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna hold you to that. Next year, we'll have 884 00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:08,280 Speaker 1: some two thousand kids here in Atlanta, Georgia, two thousand 885 00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:12,040 Speaker 1: teams celebrating our leadership program, and I look to you 886 00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:15,279 Speaker 1: to help inspire some two thousand kids next year. I'm 887 00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,439 Speaker 1: gonna tell you, Frank, You're not You're throwing no fear 888 00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,080 Speaker 1: in me, my friend. I will be there. I'm telling 889 00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,520 Speaker 1: everybody you send me a flyer and I will conferring 890 00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:27,520 Speaker 1: on my Facebook page today because what you're doing, but 891 00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,239 Speaker 1: Mr Washington has been doing and I just want to 892 00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,720 Speaker 1: outline the people. That's what this show is about today. 893 00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,960 Speaker 1: Letting people know about successful people because you can be 894 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,239 Speaker 1: successful in the corporate world. You got that skill set, 895 00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,920 Speaker 1: but every day you change in lives and reshaping America 896 00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,640 Speaker 1: in the direction that can only make it better. My friend, 897 00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,719 Speaker 1: stay strong and you will be seeing me in your 898 00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,759 Speaker 1: office one day talking about what do I need to 899 00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,680 Speaker 1: do to help the balls in Girls Club of America. 900 00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:57,839 Speaker 1: Thank you very much and thank you for this opportunity. 901 00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,319 Speaker 1: Appreciate you and your fan shaning my friends. We talked soon. 902 00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:04,120 Speaker 1: Coming up next, got some more happening Money Make conversation. 903 00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,560 Speaker 1: Don't you go nowhere. People on this show are changing 904 00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,480 Speaker 1: live just like the lives I'm trying to change. Wow, 905 00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:14,640 Speaker 1: ra Sean McDonald, don't stop, don't stop, don't stop, want 906 00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:19,800 Speaker 1: to make conversations Coming right back, Hi, This was Sean McDonald. 907 00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:21,759 Speaker 1: You can always call me when I'm doing my show 908 00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:25,879 Speaker 1: this money Making Conversation. I'm your host. A three two 909 00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,520 Speaker 1: two three zero five five nine two is my number. 910 00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,560 Speaker 1: A three two two three zero five five nine two. 911 00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:35,719 Speaker 1: My show to day has been about successful people were 912 00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,359 Speaker 1: out there uplifting the community. They could be out there 913 00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:43,080 Speaker 1: a corporate job during their thing that IBM Google, but 914 00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:46,040 Speaker 1: they've chosen a path in life of changing the young 915 00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:49,880 Speaker 1: people in America are making this country greater, making this 916 00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:54,279 Speaker 1: country better because guess what, we all need to look 917 00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,920 Speaker 1: in at direction. And it's really important that when we 918 00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:00,120 Speaker 1: see these things happen, that we need to applaud them 919 00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,200 Speaker 1: because guess what, they're doing things to the average person 920 00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:05,360 Speaker 1: will not do because they're in their own right, a 921 00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:11,600 Speaker 1: very special My next guest, interesting guy, talented guy, was 922 00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:15,680 Speaker 1: exposed early to the harsh realities of divorce, drugs, violence, 923 00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,880 Speaker 1: and alcoholism. They plagued not only his family, but they Flint, 924 00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:23,520 Speaker 1: Michigan community at large. Rising above his circumstances, Omar went 925 00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,760 Speaker 1: on to attend Howard University and now is the creator 926 00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:31,480 Speaker 1: and founder of Executive Preparatory Academy of Finance. Please welcome 927 00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:41,879 Speaker 1: to Money Making Conversation, Omar McGee. How you doing sir? 928 00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:46,480 Speaker 1: Thank you? I'm doing great. You can't complain huh doing 929 00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:51,000 Speaker 1: that good? But if nobody would listen in anyway? Right? No, no, 930 00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,680 Speaker 1: because you're good looking dude, you know you're successful. So 931 00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:56,839 Speaker 1: who you complaining too? Because there's a lot of people 932 00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:58,840 Speaker 1: out they're doing way words, but what you're doing is 933 00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,960 Speaker 1: way bigger because you you're helping out our youth. You 934 00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:06,160 Speaker 1: redirected Pepe Kid to maybe fall in a different direction 935 00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:09,200 Speaker 1: and keeping them straight in the right direction. That's amazing, dude, 936 00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:13,520 Speaker 1: Thank you brother, I appreciate it. Now I read that 937 00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:18,360 Speaker 1: poor information from your bio about you growing up? How 938 00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,880 Speaker 1: did you get out? When I when I read that, 939 00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:22,640 Speaker 1: let me read that again? How did you get out 940 00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:27,600 Speaker 1: early years exposed to harsh realities of divorce, drugs, violence, 941 00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:32,520 Speaker 1: and alcoholism? How do you get out? What finger or 942 00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:37,040 Speaker 1: what prayer or what person got you out? Well, it's 943 00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,799 Speaker 1: a complicated story. I'm I'm the baby of eight. You know. 944 00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:43,520 Speaker 1: My mom she was you know, she was addicted to alcohol. 945 00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:48,240 Speaker 1: My dad he took over, you know, the other seven 946 00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,160 Speaker 1: and moved him into a dollar house, which is a 947 00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:54,239 Speaker 1: house that the city was given people in the community to. 948 00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,239 Speaker 1: You know, once GM started closing down, the community was 949 00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:00,239 Speaker 1: falling so fast. Absolutely, they started selling houses for like 950 00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:02,600 Speaker 1: a dollar. But the thing was, you couldn't set that. 951 00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,799 Speaker 1: You had to rebuild it and living it. And that 952 00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:09,400 Speaker 1: house was actually like worth a dollar, like truly. And 953 00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,759 Speaker 1: you're talking about a place that you know, wintertime is 954 00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:17,960 Speaker 1: practically hellless, you know, zero below zero practically half of 955 00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:20,160 Speaker 1: the winter, and this place you know I didn't have 956 00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:24,200 Speaker 1: you know, secure windows, no heat, no running water, and 957 00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,640 Speaker 1: you know he moved my sisters over there because the 958 00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,280 Speaker 1: environment from my mom and my mom's my mom's environment 959 00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,200 Speaker 1: was so bad. But I stayed with my mom because 960 00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:35,160 Speaker 1: you know, she was unwelfare so she you know, bills 961 00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:36,400 Speaker 1: were paid. The only thing I had to do was 962 00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:40,399 Speaker 1: fight drums and pimps and do those things. So um. 963 00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,080 Speaker 1: To make a long story short, you know, I got 964 00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:43,560 Speaker 1: into a lot of bad things as a kid. I 965 00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:46,880 Speaker 1: taught myself how to read through memorizations. Um. After my 966 00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:50,240 Speaker 1: mom died. You know, I was so far behind in school. 967 00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:55,640 Speaker 1: Um My, when they removed my mom mouth, they were 968 00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:57,600 Speaker 1: finding papers, you know, like the steak was about to 969 00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:03,320 Speaker 1: take um take me, were about to take me. So um. 970 00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:06,560 Speaker 1: When that happened, they realized that they had to get 971 00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:07,960 Speaker 1: me out of here. So my brother got the first 972 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:12,000 Speaker 1: job at home depot in Atlanta. When you know they 973 00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:14,359 Speaker 1: sounds crazy, right, they shipped me out there and lie, 974 00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,880 Speaker 1: they said. I was in the eighth grade. So um, 975 00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,960 Speaker 1: and I'll discovered basketball and that's how I started, you know, 976 00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:22,680 Speaker 1: changing my life. My brother introduced me to a lot 977 00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,440 Speaker 1: of things from I was back to Martin Luther King 978 00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:27,640 Speaker 1: to very con because I was never that bad kid. 979 00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:31,880 Speaker 1: I just you know, I just didn't know because I 980 00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:37,720 Speaker 1: want I want to pull that comment back, that bad kid. Yeah, 981 00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:41,040 Speaker 1: And I don't think no kid. I when I see things, 982 00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:44,759 Speaker 1: when I see physical abuse or children, because the most 983 00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:48,760 Speaker 1: the greatest love in life is a child's love because 984 00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:50,360 Speaker 1: that was all they know. You know, they're born with 985 00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:52,839 Speaker 1: a blank slate, and as they grow up, they learned 986 00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,520 Speaker 1: what they experienced. You know, this is who they are 987 00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:59,400 Speaker 1: and when. And I don't think there ever are bad kids. 988 00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:03,840 Speaker 1: It's environment. You know, A kid learns racism through their parents, 989 00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,239 Speaker 1: through their environment, you know what I'm saying. You know, 990 00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:11,040 Speaker 1: kids learned violence through their environment, you know, selling drugs. 991 00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:13,759 Speaker 1: That's why I was asking you because you know I 992 00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,600 Speaker 1: came from Fifth War. You know, it's one of the 993 00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:21,160 Speaker 1: more empower communities, very similar background. Like I saw violence 994 00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:23,360 Speaker 1: when I was coming up, you know, violence, and my 995 00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:25,600 Speaker 1: parents may not be aware. I know they're not aware 996 00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:27,640 Speaker 1: of what I saw because that they ride my bike 997 00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,399 Speaker 1: playing basketball. I saw a lot of stuff going down 998 00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:32,759 Speaker 1: and go whoa, you know, and they probablyn't let me 999 00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,680 Speaker 1: go out there play basketball if they know what I saw, 1000 00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:39,200 Speaker 1: and so I know that. You know, I got fights 1001 00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:42,000 Speaker 1: in the street. Remember I got in one fight on 1002 00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:45,920 Speaker 1: More that dude hit me in my eye. I realized, 1003 00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:49,120 Speaker 1: you know something, I am not a fighter. Okay, Well, 1004 00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:52,839 Speaker 1: ever ran in my mind, whatever thought jumped in my 1005 00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:56,719 Speaker 1: head will never jump in there again. If anybody ever 1006 00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,000 Speaker 1: wants to fight me, I'm gonna tell her right now. 1007 00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,359 Speaker 1: I lost. I'm just I'm gonna just admit right now, 1008 00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:05,880 Speaker 1: I lost. Before you start hurting me physically, I lost. 1009 00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:09,800 Speaker 1: So I give and so. But but but when I started, 1010 00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:13,600 Speaker 1: when I look at your journey, you know, in the community, 1011 00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,400 Speaker 1: that's why this show is being done today because if 1012 00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,800 Speaker 1: we just get it through our heads, if we just 1013 00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:23,760 Speaker 1: get these young people early, yeah, they don't become bad kids. 1014 00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:27,919 Speaker 1: I'm starving, white, black, Hispanic, any of them. Yea, that's 1015 00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:30,400 Speaker 1: what you're doing now, man, with your program. You're trying 1016 00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,200 Speaker 1: to capture them early and give them directions, tell us 1017 00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,280 Speaker 1: about your program. And then I'm gonna die back in 1018 00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:37,760 Speaker 1: because I don't wanna get too deep. And people forget. 1019 00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:39,840 Speaker 1: I don't understand why I have you on the show. 1020 00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:41,920 Speaker 1: I have you on the show about this, this this 1021 00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:46,960 Speaker 1: preparatory program that you created and the amazing graduation. Right, 1022 00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:49,000 Speaker 1: tell us about that. Then we're gonna drop back and 1023 00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:52,680 Speaker 1: get more d your history. Okay, Yeah, I started to 1024 00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:55,640 Speaker 1: the prep um four years ago to start fifth year, 1025 00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:59,160 Speaker 1: and um, I wanted to get you know, what society 1026 00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,080 Speaker 1: considered the worst is in l A. And that's exactly 1027 00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:03,920 Speaker 1: what I got. I mean, our kids were the kids 1028 00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:07,000 Speaker 1: that Dorsey Crunshaw. You know, a lot of schools are 1029 00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:11,120 Speaker 1: tougher schools didn't want and a lot of people told 1030 00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:12,680 Speaker 1: me I would fail. A lot of people told me 1031 00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:15,440 Speaker 1: I'm wasting my money. But that was the challenge and 1032 00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:20,600 Speaker 1: I was cool with that challenge because that's what I wanted. So, um, 1033 00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,120 Speaker 1: within that, I mean, you would have you have to understand, 1034 00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:26,840 Speaker 1: I had to separate the kids not by their academics, 1035 00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:29,120 Speaker 1: but by their gang affiliation. If you roll the sixties, 1036 00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:31,560 Speaker 1: you gotta go over here. Blood you got you have 1037 00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:36,560 Speaker 1: to go over there and in the same classroom. Yeah yeah, 1038 00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:38,240 Speaker 1: I can't sit in the same classroom. So that's why 1039 00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:40,480 Speaker 1: I was dealing with. But again, that's the challenge I 1040 00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:43,320 Speaker 1: wanted because I know if we can change those kids, 1041 00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:47,720 Speaker 1: we can change the academic success across the nation. For 1042 00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:51,240 Speaker 1: our kids. We can practically save our culture. You know, 1043 00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:53,440 Speaker 1: ninth grade is you you know, that's when that's when 1044 00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:57,320 Speaker 1: all your kids drop out of high school. So, so 1045 00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:02,520 Speaker 1: what's your minority breakdown? What is Hispanic African American temperac 1046 00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:05,080 Speaker 1: in Hispanic? Because I know the whole neighborhood over there 1047 00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:08,520 Speaker 1: is changing if they're coming more and more Hispanic. Correct, Yes, yes, 1048 00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:10,560 Speaker 1: it's it's not a lot of schools for African Americans 1049 00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:12,640 Speaker 1: to go to in l A right now. The black 1050 00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:17,040 Speaker 1: and brown thing is very heavy out here. It's really 1051 00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:20,800 Speaker 1: really a big problem in the school system in l A. Yeah. 1052 00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:24,320 Speaker 1: So you know, anyway, so I I created my mission 1053 00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:28,320 Speaker 1: um financial Literacy. I believe in instant gratification. You know, 1054 00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:31,840 Speaker 1: it's a big gray area from ninth grade to being 1055 00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:35,720 Speaker 1: a doctor. It's a lot of stuff goals on that time. 1056 00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:39,040 Speaker 1: So you gotta give them small championships in the middle. 1057 00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:44,400 Speaker 1: And you know, I created Executive Prep Academy of Finance. 1058 00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:46,440 Speaker 1: Our kids have their own businesses. Some kids have their 1059 00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:49,120 Speaker 1: parents working for them. Some kids even make more money 1060 00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:53,280 Speaker 1: than their parents. And um, not only are they learning 1061 00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:58,280 Speaker 1: about finance, they're teaching their parents and their sisters and brothers, 1062 00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:01,080 Speaker 1: and how to create a bank of town, how to 1063 01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:03,960 Speaker 1: prepare yourself for loans, interest rates, how to buy a car, 1064 01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:07,840 Speaker 1: how to fix your credits, So it's not only executive 1065 01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:12,200 Speaker 1: precfice going throughout the community, and um, you know it 1066 01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:14,440 Speaker 1: makes sense to him because now what we're doing is 1067 01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:18,560 Speaker 1: answering the question of why you know, why you need 1068 01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:20,680 Speaker 1: an education and how it's going to benefit. When you 1069 01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:23,120 Speaker 1: answer that question for a kid, they make perfect sense 1070 01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:25,880 Speaker 1: because they have no examples in the community of successful 1071 01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:29,720 Speaker 1: people coming from education, and if they do, they leave, 1072 01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:32,000 Speaker 1: so they don't have a one on one contact with them, 1073 01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:34,320 Speaker 1: no one on one contact with them, so they have 1074 01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:38,280 Speaker 1: not a lot of confidence. And and then your your goal. 1075 01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:42,120 Speaker 1: Now that's really interesting. You say, I noticed that. You know, 1076 01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:45,120 Speaker 1: you said athletics played a major role in your life 1077 01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:47,640 Speaker 1: at my wrong because I hear that term. I hear 1078 01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:51,960 Speaker 1: that terminology a lot. You know, reward uh put forth, 1079 01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:54,240 Speaker 1: how do you how do you marry it to how 1080 01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:56,840 Speaker 1: do you how do you make sure you know that 1081 01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:59,520 Speaker 1: that that path is similar because that's a natural lead 1082 01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:04,919 Speaker 1: for you, but it also lays a great framework for motivation. Yes, 1083 01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:07,240 Speaker 1: are you talking about with the students or myself personally, 1084 01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:11,000 Speaker 1: students with the students. Okay, well you know the true 1085 01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:13,480 Speaker 1: concept of that is I just didn't have any other option. 1086 01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:16,600 Speaker 1: I just wasn't exposed to anything. But the truth of 1087 01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:19,360 Speaker 1: the matter is our students are kids from the community. 1088 01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:21,280 Speaker 1: They know they're not gonna be Lebron James. They know 1089 01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:23,440 Speaker 1: they can't. They're not jay Z. If you ask, I 1090 01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:25,000 Speaker 1: want to be a rapper, and they never wrapped a day. 1091 01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:26,760 Speaker 1: They like, they don't practice, they don't do anything. They 1092 01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:29,880 Speaker 1: just don't have anything else to say. So what I 1093 01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:33,520 Speaker 1: do and the things I've done so like our Career 1094 01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:38,360 Speaker 1: Day is sponsored by Ernst and Young, right, so I 1095 01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:43,080 Speaker 1: have every contact everybody from Ernston Young that's participating in 1096 01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:45,760 Speaker 1: the Career Day, and I tell them to drive their 1097 01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:51,000 Speaker 1: best car. Do not guess what happens? We have a 1098 01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:55,120 Speaker 1: three million dollars on campus that day. Very unapologetic about this. 1099 01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:57,560 Speaker 1: I don't do the fireman, I don't do the policeman. 1100 01:01:57,680 --> 01:01:59,960 Speaker 1: Is nothing wrong with those jobs, but my competition is 1101 01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:05,800 Speaker 1: jay Z, Puff Daddy Lebron. What happens is when they 1102 01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:08,160 Speaker 1: see that doctor jump out of that rolls Royce, that 1103 01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:14,840 Speaker 1: maserati that I can't be Lebron. I can be that. 1104 01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:19,479 Speaker 1: I can't be Lebrons, but I can be that I'm 1105 01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:22,120 Speaker 1: figuring this thing out. So and then you know, we're 1106 01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:24,439 Speaker 1: hugg them with that information and that exposure, and and 1107 01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:28,400 Speaker 1: and the concept change and the culture of exacutive prep 1108 01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:31,000 Speaker 1: starts to change because now they believe. And once you 1109 01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:33,800 Speaker 1: get a kid dreaming, the dysfunction is small in comparison 1110 01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:36,360 Speaker 1: to their life. And there, lie, I'm mad at you. 1111 01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:39,600 Speaker 1: That is so smart what you're doing, man, you know, 1112 01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:42,440 Speaker 1: because because that's what the big complaint about, you know, 1113 01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:45,880 Speaker 1: you idlies and these athletes and these rappers and all that. 1114 01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:49,360 Speaker 1: You said, Okay, I got that, but the but the 1115 01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:52,040 Speaker 1: the way you win is thinking out of the box. 1116 01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:57,400 Speaker 1: You say, who else drives has matches? Who else got 1117 01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:03,960 Speaker 1: bad cause you know, tall in the suits? Okay, corporate exacts. Okay, Now, 1118 01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:08,560 Speaker 1: come on down here with that push that Mercedes, that Jaguar. 1119 01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:11,920 Speaker 1: We're gonna parker out here and let these kids see. 1120 01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:15,600 Speaker 1: You don't have to dunk, you don't have to wrap, 1121 01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:18,720 Speaker 1: just use your brain. The one thing that God gave us. 1122 01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:24,480 Speaker 1: All that, my friend, it's brilliant. That's brilliant. So we 1123 01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:27,960 Speaker 1: were just exposed them to everything. I mean, they just 1124 01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:32,880 Speaker 1: went to see Hamilton's. I rented them a Mercedes benz Una. 1125 01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:35,720 Speaker 1: Love it. I love it. You're my world, brother, You're 1126 01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:39,160 Speaker 1: my world. If you go through our Instagram, you see 1127 01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:40,640 Speaker 1: him on the Lakers, on the on the on the 1128 01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:43,000 Speaker 1: on the floor with Snoop Dog like. We do amazing 1129 01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:44,560 Speaker 1: things with our kids. We let them know what the 1130 01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:47,040 Speaker 1: other side looks like. And you can do that. Not 1131 01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:49,080 Speaker 1: only that you can do that, you're about to experience that. 1132 01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:50,480 Speaker 1: I don't give you a taste. That's what you can 1133 01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:53,040 Speaker 1: get thirsty. And that's what we're about. We're just giving 1134 01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:55,400 Speaker 1: them the world and showing them and then and and 1135 01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:57,040 Speaker 1: and the sad part about it, I get a lot 1136 01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:59,720 Speaker 1: of slack for that because people tell me I'm giving 1137 01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:02,840 Speaker 1: them unrealistic goals and I'm living, you're not, You're not, 1138 01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:05,880 Speaker 1: And I get mad. I get okay, now, okay, Now, 1139 01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:07,920 Speaker 1: they can't be a stopbroker. That's what you're saying that. 1140 01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:11,280 Speaker 1: Oh now they can't work in an executive position. That's 1141 01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:13,640 Speaker 1: what you're saying. Now, So what what do you want 1142 01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:16,240 Speaker 1: them to do? What do you want them do? You 1143 01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:18,960 Speaker 1: said it can't wrap. You say they can't act. You 1144 01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:21,800 Speaker 1: say they can't see you said they came dunk. They 1145 01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:24,400 Speaker 1: can't throw our football, they can't hear the baseball. Now 1146 01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:29,760 Speaker 1: they can't think that's you're saying. Stop with the madness, man, 1147 01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:32,040 Speaker 1: Stop with the man. You got me fired up, you 1148 01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:33,960 Speaker 1: got me filed up on mare. We're gonna take a break. 1149 01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:36,439 Speaker 1: We're gonna come right back because you're about to make 1150 01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:40,120 Speaker 1: me fly to l A and come to your school 1151 01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:42,840 Speaker 1: and start talking because you're talking my kind of language 1152 01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:45,120 Speaker 1: to my friend. We've been back with more, my man 1153 01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:48,000 Speaker 1: on more doing this thing in l Acau. Guess what 1154 01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:50,160 Speaker 1: I spent fifteen years out in l A. I know 1155 01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:53,080 Speaker 1: exactly what he's dealing with. We'll be back right back 1156 01:04:53,120 --> 01:05:02,960 Speaker 1: with more money making conversations. Hi, just for Sean McDonald. 1157 01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:05,560 Speaker 1: I'm back with money making conversations. I'm your host on 1158 01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:10,080 Speaker 1: the phone. My friend. He's out of Flint, Michigan. Overcame 1159 01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:15,320 Speaker 1: the odds with the Howard University. Now he's in Los Angeles. 1160 01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:20,480 Speaker 1: He's the creative and founder of Executive Preparatory Academy of Finance. 1161 01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:22,880 Speaker 1: Back on the line, my man, Omar McGee, how you 1162 01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:26,320 Speaker 1: do on? Omar good? Good? Now you now you you 1163 01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:31,240 Speaker 1: left me hype. Now you left me hype up there. Okay, cool? Cool, 1164 01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:33,840 Speaker 1: So so I'm gonna be quiet. Hype me some more. Man, 1165 01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:36,480 Speaker 1: give me because I'm being in l A on Saturday morning. 1166 01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:39,320 Speaker 1: I'm laying on Saturday morning because I'm being recognized for 1167 01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:42,880 Speaker 1: my community work by an amazing Grace Conservatory that's founded 1168 01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:45,560 Speaker 1: by rent the actress Windy with Carol Robinson. So I 1169 01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:47,720 Speaker 1: come out of l A all the time, so I 1170 01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:51,360 Speaker 1: didn't know. I know, you know, that's why I have 1171 01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:53,960 Speaker 1: to bring it out. I didn't bring it out. So 1172 01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:55,680 Speaker 1: so tell us some more about your program, and then 1173 01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:57,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna get a living in detail. And when we 1174 01:05:57,640 --> 01:05:59,760 Speaker 1: hang up the phone, we're gonna have a relationship. My friend, 1175 01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:02,560 Speaker 1: we're gonna be friends, and when you need something, you're 1176 01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:06,320 Speaker 1: gonna call me because I'm that type of dude. Thank you, brother, 1177 01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:08,880 Speaker 1: I appreciate the support. Well, basically, we just hear a 1178 01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:11,600 Speaker 1: safe kids. Man. We just believe and everything that we're doing. 1179 01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:14,120 Speaker 1: And now they believe in everything that we're doing. You know, 1180 01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:17,480 Speaker 1: the culture is set. You know, every kid goes to 1181 01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:21,480 Speaker 1: a four year college, no exceptions, no options, no trade schools, 1182 01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:23,760 Speaker 1: no junior colleges, they're not even allowed to talk about 1183 01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:26,040 Speaker 1: it and believe it or not. I got a lot 1184 01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:30,000 Speaker 1: of slack about that. That was another unrealistic goal. Um, 1185 01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:33,360 Speaker 1: they said I was given the kids because you know, 1186 01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:36,640 Speaker 1: they said, you know, every kid I made for college. 1187 01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:39,800 Speaker 1: I said, well, that person that never met that kid 1188 01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:41,480 Speaker 1: can never tell me that kid is not made for 1189 01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:44,200 Speaker 1: college until the only way we know that kid is 1190 01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:45,960 Speaker 1: not made for college is when he go to college 1191 01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:47,400 Speaker 1: and come back and say I'm not made for college. 1192 01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:53,680 Speaker 1: Until then, none of us can give me her shot. Yeah, 1193 01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:55,520 Speaker 1: give her a shot. You know I was not made 1194 01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:57,160 Speaker 1: for college. If you would have told me, I would 1195 01:06:57,160 --> 01:06:59,000 Speaker 1: have graduated from Howard University and doing all these things 1196 01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:00,520 Speaker 1: in high school. All to look at you and laugh. 1197 01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:03,960 Speaker 1: I said, college wasn't for me. But basketball took me 1198 01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:05,720 Speaker 1: to college and that's the only way I could play. 1199 01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:07,880 Speaker 1: But once I got to college, I found the confidence 1200 01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:11,800 Speaker 1: to oh, I can do this. It just made perfect sense. 1201 01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:15,760 Speaker 1: So I know that you know these kids can do it, 1202 01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:17,600 Speaker 1: and they believe they can do it. It's obvious. I mean, 1203 01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:21,800 Speaker 1: I got I got your college. A lot of people 1204 01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:24,480 Speaker 1: always approached me about you know, when I was when 1205 01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:27,600 Speaker 1: when I helped Steve build out his uh his foundation. 1206 01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:30,600 Speaker 1: You know he was famous. Okay, so easy for me 1207 01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:32,920 Speaker 1: to go to. Well I shouldn't say they were easy, 1208 01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:35,360 Speaker 1: because you two have had a media kid and a 1209 01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:39,120 Speaker 1: reason for asking forward or stay farm or home deep 1210 01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:42,440 Speaker 1: or for money or the US Army for money and 1211 01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:47,000 Speaker 1: so so how does an individual, you just a regular 1212 01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:50,840 Speaker 1: guy with a dream with a vision, how do you 1213 01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:54,480 Speaker 1: launch your foundation because it's your second foundation that you 1214 01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:57,640 Speaker 1: that you really got engaged with. How do you get 1215 01:07:57,680 --> 01:08:00,280 Speaker 1: the money? How? How does what makes you a superstar? This? 1216 01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:02,040 Speaker 1: What made you make it happen? Because a lot of 1217 01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:05,439 Speaker 1: people still out there stumbling. They got these visions of goodness, 1218 01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:09,240 Speaker 1: but how did they get started? Well, just belief. You know. 1219 01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:11,439 Speaker 1: I took my own money and put my money. See 1220 01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:14,720 Speaker 1: a lot of people the problem is this. People have 1221 01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:17,560 Speaker 1: a dream, but they want to use other people's money. 1222 01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:22,000 Speaker 1: They want to use other people's money, not their own. 1223 01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:24,080 Speaker 1: You know, you come to it, You come to someone 1224 01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:25,840 Speaker 1: and say can you invest in this? And then when 1225 01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:28,160 Speaker 1: the person asked how much you invest in it? That's good? 1226 01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:30,800 Speaker 1: I did invest anything. Okay, you have no stake in 1227 01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:33,479 Speaker 1: the game, so you know I put up a lot 1228 01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:35,960 Speaker 1: to make this happen. You know, I told my house, 1229 01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:38,000 Speaker 1: you know, I did a lot to make this happen. 1230 01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:39,880 Speaker 1: So I put my money where my mouth is. So 1231 01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:44,360 Speaker 1: when I went to somebody or um solicit other people 1232 01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:47,240 Speaker 1: and investors or donors, you know, it perfectly made sense 1233 01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:49,280 Speaker 1: if they know if I put my money into it, 1234 01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:51,040 Speaker 1: you know, I really believe in it. And then it's 1235 01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:53,160 Speaker 1: just my energy, Like it was nothing that was gonna 1236 01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:56,160 Speaker 1: stop me. Um, even when everybody told me I would 1237 01:08:56,200 --> 01:09:00,720 Speaker 1: fell Um, I kept pushing and I made it. You know, 1238 01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:03,160 Speaker 1: it's interesting you say that because whenever I talked to 1239 01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:06,920 Speaker 1: someone about trying to start their program or whether it's 1240 01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:10,760 Speaker 1: senior citizens or mail programs or students, you gotta have 1241 01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:14,559 Speaker 1: a record. You gotta have a footprint of what you've 1242 01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:17,240 Speaker 1: done to convince people that they should come on board. 1243 01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:19,960 Speaker 1: So if you don't invest in yourself, if you don't 1244 01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:22,400 Speaker 1: get the word out or start creating a media kid, 1245 01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:25,880 Speaker 1: and that's what you basically did by investing yourself. I 1246 01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:28,320 Speaker 1: remember the first camp that Steve harm and I did 1247 01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:32,360 Speaker 1: at his his Dallas ranch. I personally came out of 1248 01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:36,840 Speaker 1: my pocket, personally came out of our pocket forty dollars 1249 01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:39,799 Speaker 1: to help launch that because we were doing the Disney 1250 01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:42,559 Speaker 1: Dreamers Academy, and I was going where they're supporting the 1251 01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:46,200 Speaker 1: Disney Dreamers Academy, we should also support something that Steve 1252 01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:49,400 Speaker 1: believes in. That was single single moms and single boys 1253 01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:52,240 Speaker 1: in the household, and and and and there was no 1254 01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:55,120 Speaker 1: male leadership in that household. And so we had to 1255 01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:57,240 Speaker 1: come out of our pockets. Same thing you just said, 1256 01:09:57,720 --> 01:10:00,479 Speaker 1: we invested in ourselves, and I'm just saying my name 1257 01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:03,640 Speaker 1: wasn't nowhere on this program. It was Steve Harvey. But 1258 01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:06,240 Speaker 1: I felt that I had to invest to get it 1259 01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:09,400 Speaker 1: going as well, to show him I'm invested to Steve. 1260 01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:12,400 Speaker 1: I believe in your dreams to Steve, and we took 1261 01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:15,400 Speaker 1: that first year program and that became the model that 1262 01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:17,680 Speaker 1: we took to other sponsors and say, look, this is 1263 01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:20,000 Speaker 1: what we did last year. Just think what we could 1264 01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:21,759 Speaker 1: do if you came on board. Give us a hundred 1265 01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:24,080 Speaker 1: and fifty thousand dollars or two thousand dollars or fifty 1266 01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:27,320 Speaker 1: thousand dollars. We can do more, way more and hip 1267 01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:30,439 Speaker 1: hop more students. So I truly understand your philosophy and 1268 01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:32,599 Speaker 1: it burns me up when people coming through you they 1269 01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:34,880 Speaker 1: got all these great ideas, but they don't want to 1270 01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:38,800 Speaker 1: invest in themselves, want you to invest your money. Yeah, 1271 01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:41,000 Speaker 1: and then also the belief as well, you know, like 1272 01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:43,640 Speaker 1: I wasn't afraid to tell people that I was going 1273 01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:46,680 Speaker 1: to graduate a hundred percent of our kids and was 1274 01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:48,400 Speaker 1: going to go to four year college. I said that 1275 01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:50,920 Speaker 1: from the beginning kids would come in on the fifth 1276 01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:54,479 Speaker 1: grade level. I'm not afraid to say those things and 1277 01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:57,200 Speaker 1: and really mean them. You know, people thought I was crazy. 1278 01:10:57,240 --> 01:11:01,120 Speaker 1: I was the closest thing to Kanye. I was this guy. 1279 01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:03,479 Speaker 1: Don't even this guy. You didn't even go to school 1280 01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:06,000 Speaker 1: for education? Who are you? Like? Educated? Hate it like 1281 01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:07,680 Speaker 1: I've been in this thirty years. There's no way that 1282 01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:10,880 Speaker 1: you can do this. And I'm like, don't put your 1283 01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:13,080 Speaker 1: fears on me. I didn't have anything to do it 1284 01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:14,920 Speaker 1: the way you feel. But I know I can do 1285 01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:17,479 Speaker 1: this because the difference between me and you, I was 1286 01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:19,719 Speaker 1: actually one of those kids is nothing they can tell 1287 01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:22,240 Speaker 1: me that I haven't experienced. I'm going to relate to 1288 01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:26,160 Speaker 1: those kids way faster than you, So I knew I 1289 01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:28,120 Speaker 1: can do it. And it's not a knock on, you 1290 01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:31,559 Speaker 1: know that, because that's needed as well. It's also you 1291 01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:34,960 Speaker 1: know that balance. But at the same time, I always 1292 01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:39,000 Speaker 1: knew that I can do this, and you know, last 1293 01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:42,320 Speaker 1: year it was just proven so so so you go 1294 01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:46,920 Speaker 1: to Howard University and see and I always tell people, man, 1295 01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:51,360 Speaker 1: I head. You know Stephanie One shes from the Reach 1296 01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:56,439 Speaker 1: High program initiated by First Lady Michelle Obama. I just 1297 01:11:56,479 --> 01:12:00,360 Speaker 1: had Frank Sanchez from the Bars and Girl Club of America, 1298 01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:02,600 Speaker 1: been around for a hundred and fifty seven years, and 1299 01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:05,240 Speaker 1: now I have your program. You know. I think it's 1300 01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:08,120 Speaker 1: so awesome to follow his interview a hundred and fifty 1301 01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:11,519 Speaker 1: seven years to your program because they let you know 1302 01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:15,719 Speaker 1: that you can't keep reinventing with you can't keep creating 1303 01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:20,040 Speaker 1: new opportunities for these young people out there. Don't It 1304 01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:22,240 Speaker 1: doesn't matter what demo. As long as they need help 1305 01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:24,360 Speaker 1: and they ask for help, you extend in the hand. 1306 01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:27,200 Speaker 1: That's what I love about your program. And that's the 1307 01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:29,360 Speaker 1: and and and the beauty of it. It's based on 1308 01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:32,200 Speaker 1: your philosophy. And I always tell people in life, if 1309 01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:34,240 Speaker 1: you don't know who you are, how you gonna help 1310 01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:38,120 Speaker 1: somebody to be who they are exactly? And that's what 1311 01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:40,320 Speaker 1: you're doing right now. You know, exactly who you are. 1312 01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:43,200 Speaker 1: So when people come at you, you you quickly put 1313 01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:46,200 Speaker 1: up to stop sign. You stop talking to me, Stop 1314 01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:48,360 Speaker 1: talking to me? What you're doing while you're there complaining? 1315 01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:50,840 Speaker 1: Ain't you time? Ain't your time talking? Don't you think that? 1316 01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:53,439 Speaker 1: And they gonna do something for yourself. Go go pray 1317 01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:56,040 Speaker 1: us something, go donator or something. Because those people right 1318 01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:58,880 Speaker 1: there make me sick. Man. They may don't do nothing. 1319 01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:01,639 Speaker 1: Complaining people make me sick. And I have no problem 1320 01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:04,240 Speaker 1: telling to get out of my face. Yeah you know, 1321 01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:07,879 Speaker 1: I mean because my only, my only duty and loyalty 1322 01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:10,559 Speaker 1: is to the kids, is not to them. And that's 1323 01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:13,800 Speaker 1: what they have to understand. And it's and that relationship 1324 01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:18,160 Speaker 1: is very you know, it's a tough relationship because you 1325 01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:20,040 Speaker 1: have to understand I have to wear the face of 1326 01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:22,639 Speaker 1: a father, uncle, whatever I have to be to get 1327 01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:24,320 Speaker 1: that kid across the finish line, because I'm not a 1328 01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:26,760 Speaker 1: CEO that like just sit up and do anything like 1329 01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:28,519 Speaker 1: I'm in their lives every day. I gotta go to 1330 01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:32,000 Speaker 1: Throe sixteen parties. I have to buy, you know, get 1331 01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:34,120 Speaker 1: their hair done for prom if they got they don't 1332 01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:36,160 Speaker 1: have money for them suit they you know Ms McGee, 1333 01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:38,800 Speaker 1: I don't have you know, I'm there, not even the 1334 01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:42,000 Speaker 1: game college. They're calling me every five minutes. So and 1335 01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:45,160 Speaker 1: then also you have to understand to your audio have 1336 01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:48,120 Speaker 1: to match your video what you say you are. You 1337 01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:50,479 Speaker 1: have to be because in these kids live, they have 1338 01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:53,040 Speaker 1: so many people lying to them and letting them down. 1339 01:13:53,479 --> 01:13:55,880 Speaker 1: They look for that. So if you have any dinner, 1340 01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:57,840 Speaker 1: your rmor they're gonna expose it that I don't go 1341 01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:00,439 Speaker 1: to strip clubs, I don't drink, I don't do anything, 1342 01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:03,679 Speaker 1: because I know exactly what they're looking for. They see 1343 01:14:03,720 --> 01:14:05,799 Speaker 1: any of that right there is a let down because 1344 01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:09,240 Speaker 1: they look at you now as somebody they've never seen 1345 01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:12,080 Speaker 1: before because it's not in their home, and that's what 1346 01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:14,880 Speaker 1: they dream of. That's that's that's the father or uncle 1347 01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:17,639 Speaker 1: or friend I see on TV that's polished that I'd 1348 01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:20,759 Speaker 1: never experienced before. So you have to be very careful 1349 01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:23,720 Speaker 1: on even the way you carry yourself or you know, 1350 01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:26,559 Speaker 1: the things that you do, because you know, you don't 1351 01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:28,919 Speaker 1: want to let those kids down because you're that consistent 1352 01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:34,240 Speaker 1: male figure that they've never had. Yeah, and that's really important. Yeah, 1353 01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:36,479 Speaker 1: a lot of cases, you know, the majority of the cases, 1354 01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:39,599 Speaker 1: I know because in Houston Im Jason Old the farm. 1355 01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:42,719 Speaker 1: You know, your police officer for the Houston Police Police 1356 01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:45,200 Speaker 1: police force here in Houston, used to have me come 1357 01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:47,320 Speaker 1: down and talk to these very same students that you're 1358 01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:49,679 Speaker 1: talking to. These students were the school say look one more, 1359 01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:53,120 Speaker 1: one more peeple out of you. Jail is your next address. 1360 01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:55,720 Speaker 1: And when I was going there, I remember I came 1361 01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:59,120 Speaker 1: in there and these kids had their arms folded. He goes, 1362 01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:01,000 Speaker 1: I have a suit on. I was looking good and 1363 01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:03,680 Speaker 1: everything successful. And I looked at his kid. He was 1364 01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:06,760 Speaker 1: about six five. You know, really a kid you know, 1365 01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:09,000 Speaker 1: should be on somebody's football field because he was just 1366 01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:12,400 Speaker 1: a naturally athletic kid. But guess what he's been steered wrong, 1367 01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:14,240 Speaker 1: been told all the rold things, probably told him to 1368 01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:18,400 Speaker 1: be successful and big dummy. And uh, he said, because 1369 01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:21,040 Speaker 1: you ain't gonna come back next week. That's why we're 1370 01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:23,479 Speaker 1: not really listening. Like what you mean he said. He said, 1371 01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:26,360 Speaker 1: all you'd hear first, sir, is to make yourself feel good. 1372 01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:30,160 Speaker 1: That's always why won't you just do your speech and 1373 01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:32,840 Speaker 1: guess what, and we're just gonna act like we care 1374 01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:36,920 Speaker 1: about what's coming out your mouth and and we'll we'll 1375 01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:40,000 Speaker 1: be even and that's what you're saying right there. You're 1376 01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:42,920 Speaker 1: saying that. And I came back because of that kid 1377 01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:45,679 Speaker 1: said that. I came back for three straight months because 1378 01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:48,599 Speaker 1: I had to show them consistency that I wasn't that 1379 01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:51,439 Speaker 1: guy that was gonna come in and do a one off. 1380 01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:55,280 Speaker 1: And believe me, man, it was some tough moments in 1381 01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:57,200 Speaker 1: that room because you know, they had a no cursing 1382 01:15:57,360 --> 01:15:59,960 Speaker 1: policy where all I had to break that a few times. 1383 01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:04,640 Speaker 1: Gonna tell your homar I totally understand you had to 1384 01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:06,559 Speaker 1: break down a couple of times to get their attention. 1385 01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:09,200 Speaker 1: But guess what, they loved me though. They loved me, 1386 01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:10,840 Speaker 1: and they didn't beat me out because you know why, 1387 01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:15,720 Speaker 1: because I consistently showed up. I consistently said what I 1388 01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:18,400 Speaker 1: was gonna do. And when I hear a program like yours, 1389 01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:21,120 Speaker 1: it's based on consistency. My man. You know you have 1390 01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:23,040 Speaker 1: a fan in me. Brother, you have a fan of 1391 01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:26,720 Speaker 1: Rashawn McDonald, and I will do whatever you need to 1392 01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:29,880 Speaker 1: keep you know, and look at my wife can't go crazy, 1393 01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:31,679 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna have to. I'm gonna do a donation 1394 01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:33,840 Speaker 1: for you to and help you out. That prompts these 1395 01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:36,439 Speaker 1: a couple of suits need kid misses them some suits 1396 01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:38,880 Speaker 1: of ryaloms and all that. Car rashaw Rashawn got a 1397 01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:41,120 Speaker 1: couple of students here who came to four riddlems. Give 1398 01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:43,920 Speaker 1: me a call. Okay, no problem, and can I have 1399 01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:48,439 Speaker 1: all the listeners to go to UM support Executive Prep 1400 01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:51,320 Speaker 1: dot com and make a donation to spare. We're trying 1401 01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:53,240 Speaker 1: to build a new computer lab right now and get 1402 01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:57,120 Speaker 1: every kid a computer. UM you know support exact Prep 1403 01:16:57,439 --> 01:17:00,240 Speaker 1: dot com. Well, you have a particular number you trying 1404 01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:02,880 Speaker 1: to get to raising just yes, it's all on the 1405 01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:07,320 Speaker 1: it's all on the all on the website. It's three 1406 01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:09,400 Speaker 1: thousand dollars. We're trying to get to what that does 1407 01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:13,160 Speaker 1: give us the best after school program s, A t 1408 01:17:13,320 --> 01:17:20,360 Speaker 1: tutoring UM tutoring period, Uh, stated our UM computer lab 1409 01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:23,759 Speaker 1: computer for every child. All of our books are e text. 1410 01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:25,360 Speaker 1: We don't have books the more because I'm preparing them 1411 01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:28,320 Speaker 1: for the future as at that poor year four years ago. 1412 01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:31,000 Speaker 1: So UM A lot of our computers are outdated right now, 1413 01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:33,880 Speaker 1: so we're trying to revamp everything. So we're trying to raise. 1414 01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:37,479 Speaker 1: Our goal is three hundred thousand dollars. Man, Uh, say 1415 01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:39,719 Speaker 1: that one more time, so we can get it out there. Also, 1416 01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:43,000 Speaker 1: send me a flyer, uh, they all of flyers so 1417 01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:44,920 Speaker 1: I can post it on Money Making Conversation. We can 1418 01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:46,680 Speaker 1: get it out there. The only way you win, man, 1419 01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:49,320 Speaker 1: is your message has to be told consistently, and that's 1420 01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:51,519 Speaker 1: what I'm doing here on Money Making Conversation. You have 1421 01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:54,160 Speaker 1: a message, let me screaming out for you. Okay, say 1422 01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:56,240 Speaker 1: one more time how they can donate and where they 1423 01:17:56,240 --> 01:17:58,120 Speaker 1: can go. And I want to thank you for this call. Man. 1424 01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:02,280 Speaker 1: Floor is your on? My floor is yours? Please go 1425 01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:08,000 Speaker 1: to ww dot support exact prep dot com and make 1426 01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:09,960 Speaker 1: a donation. Look at the video. You can look at 1427 01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:12,439 Speaker 1: all the wonderful things that we're doing. You can read 1428 01:18:12,479 --> 01:18:15,120 Speaker 1: about us. If you have people such as Bill Clinton 1429 01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:20,719 Speaker 1: behind us, Jamie Fox, Mike Epps, Um, Jalen Rose Spencer, 1430 01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:24,240 Speaker 1: all of these videos will be there and be showcased. 1431 01:18:24,360 --> 01:18:28,400 Speaker 1: So please make a donation support and not only make 1432 01:18:28,400 --> 01:18:30,519 Speaker 1: a donation, come by in and see us when you're 1433 01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:32,280 Speaker 1: in l A. You're in l A, come by and 1434 01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:35,040 Speaker 1: see you what we're doing so you can experience it 1435 01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:38,919 Speaker 1: as well. Um, but please make a donation. Support exact 1436 01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:43,280 Speaker 1: prep dot com. Appreciate appreciate you. I gotta bring you back. 1437 01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:45,519 Speaker 1: Already opened my mouth, so you know I'm a friend, 1438 01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:47,200 Speaker 1: So that means that you gotta put me out there 1439 01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:49,240 Speaker 1: with the Jamie Fox and the mike EPs. I know 1440 01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:52,760 Speaker 1: them all anyway, so we just won't standing my name 1441 01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:54,920 Speaker 1: right next to you. Got another parent, not a person 1442 01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:57,840 Speaker 1: I think gonna help out your calls information tell me 1443 01:18:57,920 --> 01:19:00,439 Speaker 1: so I can promote what you're doing. My brother, keep 1444 01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:04,080 Speaker 1: changing live keeping as they say, keep up with live 1445 01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:06,840 Speaker 1: my brother. This was Sean McDonald. We will react with 1446 01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:09,280 Speaker 1: more Ingrid wat Can. This will be on the phone 1447 01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:12,840 Speaker 1: talking about diversity in the workplace, how she's trying to 1448 01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:15,960 Speaker 1: make a difference. It's all about this show. It is 1449 01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:19,400 Speaker 1: what money Making Conversation is about. Secrets of success. We're 1450 01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:28,400 Speaker 1: right back were Sean McDonald. Hi, This ra Sean McDonald. 1451 01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:32,320 Speaker 1: It's the last half hour of Money Making Conversation, which 1452 01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:35,559 Speaker 1: means I'm about to introduce my last guest of the day, 1453 01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:40,759 Speaker 1: which means that she's special. She's the headliner. You've always 1454 01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:44,000 Speaker 1: asked what money Making Conversations Money money Making Conversations show 1455 01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:49,759 Speaker 1: where interview industry decision makers, corporate executives, small business entrepreneur 1456 01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:54,679 Speaker 1: type and celebrities about their secrets of success money making days. 1457 01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:57,400 Speaker 1: The money Making Conversation shows today is about people being 1458 01:19:57,439 --> 01:20:00,840 Speaker 1: successful in life and using that success to reshape our neighborhoods. 1459 01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:03,320 Speaker 1: My guests, they are using their brands to change the 1460 01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:06,560 Speaker 1: culture of the way people think and educating everyone that 1461 01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:11,040 Speaker 1: being diverse wins. When I created Neighborhood Awards from Hoodie 1462 01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:13,680 Speaker 1: Awards that sold our fourteen straight years, I started right 1463 01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:16,320 Speaker 1: here in Houston, Texas. That's exactly when I'm doing right 1464 01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:19,679 Speaker 1: now with money Making Conversations. I am taking my success 1465 01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:23,720 Speaker 1: as a business professional, entertainment mobile I've read I've read 1466 01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:26,599 Speaker 1: that about the two and using my personal experiences in 1467 01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:29,599 Speaker 1: life to uplift the community. All my guests on money 1468 01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:33,719 Speaker 1: Making Conversations today are doing the same thing. My final 1469 01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:37,639 Speaker 1: guests today is cheap by adverse cheap you just get 1470 01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:41,800 Speaker 1: your dat. My final guest today on Moneymaking Conversation is 1471 01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:46,320 Speaker 1: the chief Diversity Strategist of i W Consulting Group. She 1472 01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:50,040 Speaker 1: is a passionate and accomplished leader and supply diversity and 1473 01:20:50,160 --> 01:20:55,320 Speaker 1: business development. Please welcome to Money Making Conversations, Ingrid Watkins 1474 01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:04,479 Speaker 1: that get all that that good Hello, Hello, How you 1475 01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:08,519 Speaker 1: doing that ingrid? I'm doing there. I have to teach myself. 1476 01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:14,320 Speaker 1: I cannot believe I'm here with so wonderful. Come on, 1477 01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:18,720 Speaker 1: come on, credit thought that look. Come on, I like 1478 01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:22,439 Speaker 1: you and myself beat uplifted. You know I've always been 1479 01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:24,720 Speaker 1: all that time uplifted everybody else I like to be 1480 01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:27,840 Speaker 1: uplifted with watkets. I love it. I love it, you know. 1481 01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:30,840 Speaker 1: I'm happy to let I'm happy. I'm happy to being 1482 01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:33,280 Speaker 1: called loves you legend, Thank you very much. Let me 1483 01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:35,920 Speaker 1: just say you sent me because we're LinkedIn friends. I'm 1484 01:21:35,960 --> 01:21:38,439 Speaker 1: just let this we communicate LinkedIn and all that stuff 1485 01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:41,200 Speaker 1: and that I always tell people. You know, I know 1486 01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:43,840 Speaker 1: you got Facebook, I know you got Snapchat. I know 1487 01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:48,680 Speaker 1: you got an Instagram, you got Twitter. If you endn entrepreneur, 1488 01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:51,559 Speaker 1: if you're in the business, is trying to market yourself 1489 01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:53,920 Speaker 1: among like minded people. Because you're not gonna see any 1490 01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:57,640 Speaker 1: bikini pictures. You're not gonna see this, the little a 1491 01:21:57,800 --> 01:22:00,920 Speaker 1: little halfway pose. What people should their little bodies and 1492 01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:03,800 Speaker 1: all that stuff and people partying and all that. You 1493 01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:08,000 Speaker 1: don't see that on LinkedIn. It's a motivational or social 1494 01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:11,599 Speaker 1: media format allows people like her. That's how we met. 1495 01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:14,519 Speaker 1: You know, I promote all those things on that and 1496 01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:17,000 Speaker 1: so she sent me an article. But before we get 1497 01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:19,879 Speaker 1: into the article, I want you to talk about your career, 1498 01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:26,280 Speaker 1: you know, twenty years Coca Cola in twenty years now 1499 01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:29,800 Speaker 1: before get your I used to work for IBM, and 1500 01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:35,040 Speaker 1: I always remind people people always saying why are you successful? 1501 01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:37,080 Speaker 1: Why are we just able to do? Have been able 1502 01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:39,080 Speaker 1: to do the things that you've done in your life, 1503 01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:42,719 Speaker 1: whether it's a writer or manager of producer. It came 1504 01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:45,479 Speaker 1: from the tools that were given to me and I 1505 01:22:45,640 --> 01:22:49,559 Speaker 1: BM when I say to say, can I say the 1506 01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:52,120 Speaker 1: same thing about those same tools were delivered to you 1507 01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:58,720 Speaker 1: in your days at at Coca Cola? Oh? Absolutely absolutely. M. 1508 01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:02,560 Speaker 1: I started my career very early in journalism. I have 1509 01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:07,240 Speaker 1: having journalism background. UM moved on to corporate environment where 1510 01:23:07,240 --> 01:23:12,320 Speaker 1: I did some communications and made the transition into Surprise verse. 1511 01:23:12,439 --> 01:23:15,759 Speaker 1: It has always been my passion, even as a report 1512 01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:19,200 Speaker 1: in the early days UM, to take on diversity issues. 1513 01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:22,160 Speaker 1: UM Knowledge is power and awareness. That's always been my 1514 01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:26,640 Speaker 1: platform to elevate my people through knowledge and storytelling. So 1515 01:23:26,920 --> 01:23:30,519 Speaker 1: Supprise diversity was one of those areas. Fifteen years ago 1516 01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:34,240 Speaker 1: around in it relatively new to corporate. I believed in 1517 01:23:34,360 --> 01:23:39,560 Speaker 1: the process of engaging diverse suppliers. I believed in inclusive 1518 01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:44,559 Speaker 1: corporate practices. So it was a very natural transition for me, 1519 01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:48,080 Speaker 1: UM to move all of my personal beliefs into the 1520 01:23:48,280 --> 01:23:50,519 Speaker 1: area and to make it work in that business environment. 1521 01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:55,000 Speaker 1: So yeah, I haven't spent fifteen years there. Of course. 1522 01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:58,360 Speaker 1: You you hone your your your craft, you become you know, 1523 01:23:58,439 --> 01:24:02,320 Speaker 1: it becomes your brand and your subject matter expert. So 1524 01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:07,240 Speaker 1: you know, it's been an amazing journey. Actually, now I'm 1525 01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:10,080 Speaker 1: always ask questions Rich you know that answer, but I 1526 01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:12,400 Speaker 1: gotta say, I gotta answer because I gotta let people 1527 01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:14,439 Speaker 1: know why I have you on the show, or anybody 1528 01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:16,800 Speaker 1: on the show, because sometimes, you know, if I allow 1529 01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:19,720 Speaker 1: you to tell your story, then guess what I might 1530 01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:23,120 Speaker 1: miss the importance of the emotion of their passion. Why 1531 01:24:23,240 --> 01:24:30,479 Speaker 1: is diversity so important? Well, diversity and inclusion is important. 1532 01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:33,000 Speaker 1: If you think about can you stay to point you 1533 01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:37,240 Speaker 1: say diversity and inclusion? Am I missing something because I 1534 01:24:37,280 --> 01:24:41,919 Speaker 1: just said diversion? Yeah, it's it's about including a diverse 1535 01:24:42,080 --> 01:24:46,280 Speaker 1: community in your business practices. Um. If you think about 1536 01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:51,840 Speaker 1: UH marketing, how companies been hundreds of millions, if not 1537 01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:56,719 Speaker 1: billions of dollars marketing to a multicultural consumer. That's about 1538 01:24:56,800 --> 01:25:00,120 Speaker 1: them making money from the community. So on the the 1539 01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:03,120 Speaker 1: end of the spectrum, their surprise a versity, that's about 1540 01:25:03,439 --> 01:25:07,760 Speaker 1: spending money and contracting with the same business owners that 1541 01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:12,880 Speaker 1: multicultural business owner. And then there is UM diversity and 1542 01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:17,960 Speaker 1: inclusion workplace diverse that's about hiring diverse UM, you know, workforce. 1543 01:25:18,360 --> 01:25:20,680 Speaker 1: So you want to have you know, all three of 1544 01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:24,280 Speaker 1: those that cause the multi cultural trifector. You want to 1545 01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:26,800 Speaker 1: have all three of those covered to be able to, 1546 01:25:27,479 --> 01:25:31,200 Speaker 1: you know, claim that you're a diverse corporate culture. And 1547 01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:35,160 Speaker 1: that's where I see as a diversity professional. Not all 1548 01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:39,120 Speaker 1: corporations are doing all three of those UM sides of 1549 01:25:39,120 --> 01:25:42,599 Speaker 1: the triangle very well. So so my mission I believe 1550 01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:46,000 Speaker 1: it is to you know, help those corporations to UM 1551 01:25:46,439 --> 01:25:49,479 Speaker 1: grow in areas where they might have a weakness or 1552 01:25:50,200 --> 01:25:53,759 Speaker 1: have a gap because, you know, because it's annoying sometimes 1553 01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:56,799 Speaker 1: because if you don't, then people will start telling your story. 1554 01:25:57,160 --> 01:25:59,000 Speaker 1: And if you allowed to keep telling your story, then 1555 01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:01,160 Speaker 1: their narrative can be you off base. But guess what, 1556 01:26:01,240 --> 01:26:04,000 Speaker 1: you're giving them permission to tell it and guess what 1557 01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:07,000 Speaker 1: they've developed that image of you. This is where this 1558 01:26:07,160 --> 01:26:10,720 Speaker 1: all you value in life is this particular approach. And 1559 01:26:10,760 --> 01:26:13,000 Speaker 1: it's really important you have somebody in the room because 1560 01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:15,160 Speaker 1: I've been in that room, and you've been in that room. Well, 1561 01:26:15,240 --> 01:26:18,839 Speaker 1: you are the only person of minority status in that room. 1562 01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:21,880 Speaker 1: But more importantly, you have to be if you are 1563 01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:25,479 Speaker 1: that person, you have to be willing to speak up 1564 01:26:25,560 --> 01:26:28,120 Speaker 1: or speak up with a plan. Because I've been in 1565 01:26:28,160 --> 01:26:30,679 Speaker 1: the I've been in rooms with people. You know, look 1566 01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:33,080 Speaker 1: at We're in the era of today where everybody's upset 1567 01:26:33,120 --> 01:26:36,840 Speaker 1: about like racial discrimination just popped up last week. You know, 1568 01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:38,880 Speaker 1: it's been happening to all our lives. You know, the 1569 01:26:39,280 --> 01:26:41,720 Speaker 1: millennials they just found out about this last year. It 1570 01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:45,080 Speaker 1: seems like, you know because they stud Well I was 1571 01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:49,960 Speaker 1: because you know, I employed millennials, and I actually told 1572 01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:53,600 Speaker 1: a young man, I said, you really don't understand racial discrimination? 1573 01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:56,400 Speaker 1: Yes I do. I know you don't. I said, know 1574 01:26:56,479 --> 01:26:58,559 Speaker 1: you don't because you grew up in the era where 1575 01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:01,000 Speaker 1: you look at TV. You see a whole lot of 1576 01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:04,599 Speaker 1: you on TV. Okay, you know you there's a whole 1577 01:27:04,600 --> 01:27:07,880 Speaker 1: lot of the look like you. I grew up butn't 1578 01:27:07,920 --> 01:27:11,320 Speaker 1: like that. Wasn't like that I grew up. I grew 1579 01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:13,360 Speaker 1: up in fifth War. I got on the bus. It 1580 01:27:13,439 --> 01:27:15,439 Speaker 1: wasn't of the black people on that bus. When I 1581 01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:17,760 Speaker 1: got on that city bus, when they dropped me off, 1582 01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:20,760 Speaker 1: they dropped me off on the black side of downtown. 1583 01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:23,840 Speaker 1: I shopped. I wanted the stores, and I'm I'm saying that. 1584 01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:25,439 Speaker 1: I'm just saying that's where, that's the whey. It was 1585 01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:26,960 Speaker 1: just just for the last week. Nobody told me where 1586 01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:29,519 Speaker 1: I couldn't go. But when you when you when people 1587 01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:32,559 Speaker 1: put a mindset in you, then you stay in your lane. 1588 01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:35,160 Speaker 1: And that's all you're talking about diversity. If you allot 1589 01:27:35,200 --> 01:27:37,840 Speaker 1: of people to communicate to you a certain way, you're 1590 01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:39,719 Speaker 1: gonna keep walking on that side of the street because 1591 01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:42,040 Speaker 1: you've been told that's the side of the street you 1592 01:27:42,080 --> 01:27:44,880 Speaker 1: walk on. And so when I that's why there's no 1593 01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:49,200 Speaker 1: leadership in the millennial community because guess what, they not 1594 01:27:49,320 --> 01:27:53,800 Speaker 1: had drama until recently. You know, Colin Kaepernack just just 1595 01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:56,479 Speaker 1: just need last week, you know, But guess what we've 1596 01:27:56,479 --> 01:27:59,920 Speaker 1: been dealing with fear police stopping us all my life, 1597 01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:03,840 Speaker 1: all my life, and so and so the drawing of 1598 01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:06,200 Speaker 1: all these different situations to keep popping up the trade 1599 01:28:06,200 --> 01:28:08,240 Speaker 1: of our marks and all these things. You know, I'm 1600 01:28:08,280 --> 01:28:11,559 Speaker 1: not I'm not veering away from what you're saying. I'm 1601 01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:14,439 Speaker 1: just telling you the key termin knowledge is that the 1602 01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:18,120 Speaker 1: way you win is to be diverse, but also include 1603 01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:22,360 Speaker 1: all voices in the lanes of communication. And then when 1604 01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:25,439 Speaker 1: it all wraps up, we all understand why we're trying 1605 01:28:25,439 --> 01:28:29,120 Speaker 1: to get along because it benefits the country, it benefits 1606 01:28:29,160 --> 01:28:33,280 Speaker 1: the neighborhood, and increased taxes, crime rate goes down. You 1607 01:28:33,280 --> 01:28:35,280 Speaker 1: don't look at me like I'm a criminal. You don't 1608 01:28:35,280 --> 01:28:37,479 Speaker 1: look at me like I shouldn't be dating your daughter. 1609 01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:40,160 Speaker 1: You look at me like I'm proud that you're in 1610 01:28:40,280 --> 01:28:42,839 Speaker 1: my neighborhood. You're I'm proud that you in my community. 1611 01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:44,960 Speaker 1: When I drive down your street, you don't look at 1612 01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:47,920 Speaker 1: me like I just told your call. That's what diversity 1613 01:28:48,160 --> 01:28:51,040 Speaker 1: and inclusion because it's thoughts. You know, you got me 1614 01:28:51,080 --> 01:28:53,519 Speaker 1: fired up right now, I've been fired up this whole show. 1615 01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:55,880 Speaker 1: When I come back mcwack and I want to share 1616 01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:58,400 Speaker 1: you an example of why what you're doing is so 1617 01:28:58,479 --> 01:29:02,200 Speaker 1: important because it changed my life, and it just changed 1618 01:29:02,200 --> 01:29:04,760 Speaker 1: my life, and it changes everybody's life, because that's what 1619 01:29:04,760 --> 01:29:07,040 Speaker 1: this shows about, being able to tell people why you 1620 01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:09,440 Speaker 1: should win this way and why you should be successful 1621 01:29:09,520 --> 01:29:13,840 Speaker 1: this way because it's the only one. Diversity and be included. Okay, 1622 01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:18,479 Speaker 1: be right back with more to make conversation. Thank you, 1623 01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:21,280 Speaker 1: Sean McDonald. I can hear myself. That means that America 1624 01:29:21,360 --> 01:29:26,439 Speaker 1: can hear me. Um, I'm on the phone with Ingrid Watkins. Um, Ingred, 1625 01:29:26,479 --> 01:29:29,439 Speaker 1: you had a very interesting article that you emailed to 1626 01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:33,840 Speaker 1: me through LinkedIn, and it's about Diversity Professional is in 1627 01:29:33,960 --> 01:29:40,200 Speaker 1: the online, very well done online digital magazine called Diversity 1628 01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:45,200 Speaker 1: Professional Magazine. They recently purpose published a very compelling article 1629 01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:49,679 Speaker 1: that you wrote on corporate recruiting disparity for African American 1630 01:29:49,720 --> 01:29:55,120 Speaker 1: millennials and their Caucasian peers. Tell us about that. Yes, 1631 01:29:55,240 --> 01:29:58,600 Speaker 1: thank you. I'd like to thank Diversity Professional Magazine for 1632 01:29:58,720 --> 01:30:02,600 Speaker 1: giving me that platform. M Um, I am a freelance 1633 01:30:02,680 --> 01:30:04,680 Speaker 1: writer and I do it on on the side and 1634 01:30:04,680 --> 01:30:07,280 Speaker 1: I enjoy it. Yes, the article. You know, when you 1635 01:30:07,439 --> 01:30:11,519 Speaker 1: set out as a writer to research an issue a topic, 1636 01:30:11,600 --> 01:30:14,479 Speaker 1: you just never know what you're gonna find. And we 1637 01:30:14,600 --> 01:30:18,080 Speaker 1: overturned some things that even surprised me in terms of 1638 01:30:18,080 --> 01:30:23,160 Speaker 1: the data and how many African American millennials were having 1639 01:30:23,200 --> 01:30:30,479 Speaker 1: these experiences connecting to job opportunities within corporate environment specifically UM. 1640 01:30:30,560 --> 01:30:35,519 Speaker 1: These were well educated UM African American millennials, some with 1641 01:30:35,960 --> 01:30:40,479 Speaker 1: master's degrees, who were trying to get entry level jobs, 1642 01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:46,200 Speaker 1: co op opportunities, internship opportunities, and the doors weren't weren't 1643 01:30:46,240 --> 01:30:50,160 Speaker 1: opening for them UM. So some of these millennials actually 1644 01:30:50,200 --> 01:30:52,920 Speaker 1: reached out back to LinkedIn. I know you're an advocate 1645 01:30:52,920 --> 01:30:56,000 Speaker 1: of the tool, and so AM I reached out to 1646 01:30:56,120 --> 01:30:58,680 Speaker 1: me and say, you know, I know you do diversity. 1647 01:30:58,800 --> 01:31:02,360 Speaker 1: Can someone look to this, you know the problem that 1648 01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:05,479 Speaker 1: we're having. So I put my team to work and 1649 01:31:05,520 --> 01:31:09,080 Speaker 1: we creator survey and sent it to college students in 1650 01:31:09,200 --> 01:31:14,200 Speaker 1: recent grads in several major cities UH in Chicago, Atlanta, 1651 01:31:14,240 --> 01:31:18,519 Speaker 1: and Charlotte, New York. And the results they were studying 1652 01:31:19,080 --> 01:31:24,280 Speaker 1: UM pretty much one of those surveys felt that they 1653 01:31:24,280 --> 01:31:29,240 Speaker 1: were being, you know, disenfranchised in terms of UM engagement 1654 01:31:29,280 --> 01:31:34,000 Speaker 1: with corporate opportunities. So yes, the article lays all that 1655 01:31:34,200 --> 01:31:39,720 Speaker 1: out in very compelling UM data actually data data, let's 1656 01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:41,760 Speaker 1: put the word data. It's not like you're just not 1657 01:31:41,960 --> 01:31:45,120 Speaker 1: just writing your opinion. You have facts involved there, and 1658 01:31:45,120 --> 01:31:47,439 Speaker 1: it was a student that you had involved at a 1659 01:31:47,520 --> 01:31:50,080 Speaker 1: pretty uh kind of like the model of your conversation 1660 01:31:50,280 --> 01:31:54,799 Speaker 1: was a graduate of Georgia State University, and that's in Atlanta, Georgia. 1661 01:31:55,240 --> 01:32:01,040 Speaker 1: And look, let me share some ideas about me, Rashan 1662 01:32:01,160 --> 01:32:04,040 Speaker 1: McDonald and uh, the experience that I had, because I 1663 01:32:04,080 --> 01:32:06,840 Speaker 1: know exactly what they're talking about. Uh, And that's why 1664 01:32:06,880 --> 01:32:09,960 Speaker 1: I brought up the conversation about me having experienced the 1665 01:32:10,040 --> 01:32:14,080 Speaker 1: corporate environment at IBM and and you having experienced the 1666 01:32:14,120 --> 01:32:16,840 Speaker 1: corporate environment at Coca Cola and use a journalist prior 1667 01:32:16,880 --> 01:32:19,400 Speaker 1: to that. One of the things I always felt that 1668 01:32:19,760 --> 01:32:22,360 Speaker 1: when I was in college, you know, I did cooperate 1669 01:32:22,520 --> 01:32:27,280 Speaker 1: intern work. And one thing, when you're trying to seek opportunities, 1670 01:32:27,320 --> 01:32:31,080 Speaker 1: you have to be willing to be inconvenient key term 1671 01:32:31,280 --> 01:32:34,880 Speaker 1: right there. Inconvenience. In other words, even though I lived 1672 01:32:34,880 --> 01:32:41,880 Speaker 1: in Houston, my my summer intern jobs were in Louisiana, Okay, 1673 01:32:42,200 --> 01:32:45,720 Speaker 1: and we're in Mississippi, so I had to travel and 1674 01:32:45,760 --> 01:32:48,880 Speaker 1: be inconvenient. So so so I just want everybody to 1675 01:32:48,920 --> 01:32:52,040 Speaker 1: know that when sometimes when you're pursuing your dreams, you 1676 01:32:52,120 --> 01:32:54,720 Speaker 1: have to be willing to be inconvenient to get your 1677 01:32:54,760 --> 01:32:58,960 Speaker 1: ultimate goal. Do you agree with that? Yeah? I do. 1678 01:32:59,080 --> 01:33:01,360 Speaker 1: I mean some of these kids. I mean, if you 1679 01:33:01,479 --> 01:33:06,360 Speaker 1: live in a major metropolitan city like Chicago, New York, um, Atlanta, 1680 01:33:06,400 --> 01:33:10,080 Speaker 1: you think those opportunities would be pretty you know, close by. 1681 01:33:12,240 --> 01:33:16,040 Speaker 1: I lived in Houston, Texas. Let's let you know. You know. Yeah, 1682 01:33:16,760 --> 01:33:19,160 Speaker 1: but I'm not saying nothing negative on your article. I'm 1683 01:33:19,200 --> 01:33:22,639 Speaker 1: just letting everybody know that, you know, I was inspired 1684 01:33:22,680 --> 01:33:25,360 Speaker 1: by your article. Inspiring brought you on the show because 1685 01:33:25,360 --> 01:33:27,600 Speaker 1: of the fact that there is a problem. There's a 1686 01:33:27,680 --> 01:33:30,040 Speaker 1: problem when when you when you walk in the room 1687 01:33:30,439 --> 01:33:33,680 Speaker 1: and then you were when inviting it to that room, 1688 01:33:33,680 --> 01:33:35,960 Speaker 1: you kind of like stumbling that room, go whoa, Okay, 1689 01:33:35,960 --> 01:33:38,120 Speaker 1: what's going on here? You know? And then when you 1690 01:33:38,160 --> 01:33:40,880 Speaker 1: know the majority amount of minorities, you find them at 1691 01:33:40,920 --> 01:33:44,160 Speaker 1: the in the break room, you know, because all y'all huddling, 1692 01:33:44,200 --> 01:33:48,400 Speaker 1: they're talking, you know, you know, little side jokes, filing 1693 01:33:48,439 --> 01:33:50,599 Speaker 1: all together and play basketball now, you know, little jokes 1694 01:33:50,640 --> 01:33:53,679 Speaker 1: like that the coffee pot. Because you feel that there 1695 01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:57,400 Speaker 1: isn't a conference zone where you know, you're not included. 1696 01:33:57,560 --> 01:33:59,479 Speaker 1: And I think that's a term that you educated me 1697 01:33:59,560 --> 01:34:03,080 Speaker 1: on the show to day. I've always said diversity, you said, Richard, 1698 01:34:03,360 --> 01:34:06,080 Speaker 1: there's another important where you could to be diverse. But 1699 01:34:06,200 --> 01:34:09,280 Speaker 1: are you included in the process? Are you being included 1700 01:34:09,320 --> 01:34:12,240 Speaker 1: in the decision making? And that's what you really that's 1701 01:34:12,360 --> 01:34:14,679 Speaker 1: that's the burden of proof that you're trying to get 1702 01:34:14,840 --> 01:34:17,880 Speaker 1: accomplished out there every day in the corporate space. Correct 1703 01:34:18,880 --> 01:34:23,680 Speaker 1: absolutely about inclusion UM. If you think about even in 1704 01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:28,559 Speaker 1: UM in marketing terms, you have these companies, these brands 1705 01:34:28,680 --> 01:34:32,879 Speaker 1: creating products to sell to you know, the African American 1706 01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:38,160 Speaker 1: and multicultural UM consumer. But when it comes to you know, 1707 01:34:38,640 --> 01:34:42,800 Speaker 1: add agencies to promote these products, they are generally not 1708 01:34:43,080 --> 01:34:49,240 Speaker 1: multicultural ad agencies or when it comes to multicultural staff 1709 01:34:49,320 --> 01:34:52,559 Speaker 1: making the decisions for finding up and re viewing these as, 1710 01:34:52,560 --> 01:34:54,640 Speaker 1: they're generally not. This is how you come up with 1711 01:34:54,680 --> 01:34:57,719 Speaker 1: these mistakes that some of these we've seen some recent 1712 01:34:57,760 --> 01:35:01,719 Speaker 1: advertisers make in terms of know racious adds being released 1713 01:35:01,760 --> 01:35:06,080 Speaker 1: because there are no multicultural decision makers at the table. 1714 01:35:06,320 --> 01:35:08,919 Speaker 1: And can we just bring up one recent ad was 1715 01:35:08,920 --> 01:35:12,000 Speaker 1: was that the doll ad where the black lady pulls 1716 01:35:12,080 --> 01:35:16,280 Speaker 1: up her clothes and she's yeah. There was a soap 1717 01:35:17,479 --> 01:35:20,400 Speaker 1: do that was dog, And that's what you're saying. That 1718 01:35:20,479 --> 01:35:22,080 Speaker 1: was that That's what you're That's what you're saying, is 1719 01:35:22,120 --> 01:35:25,480 Speaker 1: that somebody thought that you can actually have a black lady. 1720 01:35:25,640 --> 01:35:27,479 Speaker 1: She pulled a top off, and when she pulls a 1721 01:35:27,560 --> 01:35:31,400 Speaker 1: top off, she's white underneath. So somebody thought that was 1722 01:35:31,400 --> 01:35:33,360 Speaker 1: a good idea. Somebody thought that was a good idea 1723 01:35:33,360 --> 01:35:37,000 Speaker 1: in advertising world because they did not have a diverse 1724 01:35:37,160 --> 01:35:39,320 Speaker 1: thought process. And that's what I'm just saying. You keep 1725 01:35:39,439 --> 01:35:42,080 Speaker 1: letting people tell your story, then that's what they're telling 1726 01:35:42,080 --> 01:35:43,640 Speaker 1: your story any kind of way because it guess what, 1727 01:35:43,800 --> 01:35:46,400 Speaker 1: they think it's a cool idea and they think it's entertaining, 1728 01:35:46,600 --> 01:35:48,680 Speaker 1: or they think it's cute. And that's all you're just 1729 01:35:48,720 --> 01:35:50,680 Speaker 1: saying in your role. So how can we get in 1730 01:35:50,720 --> 01:35:52,519 Speaker 1: touch with you? Miss watching? Because you know you're out 1731 01:35:52,520 --> 01:35:54,240 Speaker 1: there making a difference. I'm just talking on the mic, 1732 01:35:54,400 --> 01:35:56,479 Speaker 1: but you out there making a difference, girl, And I'm 1733 01:35:56,560 --> 01:35:59,800 Speaker 1: so proud you got on my show. Thank you, Oh 1734 01:36:00,040 --> 01:36:02,840 Speaker 1: thank you for having us. Um If any company you know, 1735 01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:06,920 Speaker 1: we do diversity and inclusion consulting. If the company wants 1736 01:36:06,960 --> 01:36:09,120 Speaker 1: to run a commercial by my team, we have a 1737 01:36:09,160 --> 01:36:11,320 Speaker 1: team there. You go like doll if you'll run that 1738 01:36:11,360 --> 01:36:15,080 Speaker 1: commercial by your team, you saying that commercial by red 1739 01:36:15,200 --> 01:36:17,400 Speaker 1: lighting or brain lighting, and we'll make sure you won't 1740 01:36:17,400 --> 01:36:21,080 Speaker 1: get in trouble, that's for sure. So our website is 1741 01:36:21,560 --> 01:36:25,920 Speaker 1: i W Consulting Group and we're here in Atlanta and 1742 01:36:26,240 --> 01:36:30,080 Speaker 1: we're happy to connect with anybody who's interested in stepping 1743 01:36:30,200 --> 01:36:34,040 Speaker 1: up their diversity game within their corporate environment and more 1744 01:36:34,080 --> 01:36:40,120 Speaker 1: importantly including everybody in the process of awareness and an 1745 01:36:40,120 --> 01:36:43,519 Speaker 1: opportunity in that corporate ladder that's supposed to be available 1746 01:36:43,520 --> 01:36:46,440 Speaker 1: to everybody, but it's really not. And it's all about networking, 1747 01:36:46,600 --> 01:36:49,040 Speaker 1: is all about who you know, and it's all about relationships. 1748 01:36:49,200 --> 01:36:50,960 Speaker 1: And that's what your company is all by i W 1749 01:36:51,120 --> 01:36:54,360 Speaker 1: Consulting Group. Correct, that's what it's about. And I'll tell 1750 01:36:54,400 --> 01:36:59,960 Speaker 1: you what's encouraging. It's seeing how the consumers will become 1751 01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:04,840 Speaker 1: I'm outraged when um these companies release these offensive ads. 1752 01:37:04,880 --> 01:37:08,120 Speaker 1: They're getting the backlash and I think that is awesome. 1753 01:37:08,160 --> 01:37:10,559 Speaker 1: I love you should continue to love it. And also 1754 01:37:10,640 --> 01:37:12,920 Speaker 1: one more time, give out that website. Tell everybody what 1755 01:37:12,960 --> 01:37:14,640 Speaker 1: you do, and you know I'm gonna bring you back. Now. 1756 01:37:14,720 --> 01:37:16,639 Speaker 1: Now you know you remember the circle, Now you remember 1757 01:37:16,640 --> 01:37:19,559 Speaker 1: that money making conversation circle now, so I can't let 1758 01:37:19,600 --> 01:37:25,880 Speaker 1: you go now, Okay, I'm honored, I'm honest. I w 1759 01:37:26,040 --> 01:37:29,280 Speaker 1: consulting groups dot com. I want to thank you for 1760 01:37:29,320 --> 01:37:31,080 Speaker 1: being on my show. I want to thank everybody. It's 1761 01:37:31,120 --> 01:37:33,240 Speaker 1: two hours, but it goes by so fast, and the 1762 01:37:33,280 --> 01:37:36,479 Speaker 1: show is really about bringing individuals on, like miss Watkins said, 1763 01:37:36,760 --> 01:37:39,400 Speaker 1: that are successful, but they changing the way people think 1764 01:37:39,400 --> 01:37:43,840 Speaker 1: about everybody, not just about you, because everybody's mindset has 1765 01:37:43,880 --> 01:37:46,320 Speaker 1: to change knowing for you to be successful. If you 1766 01:37:46,400 --> 01:37:49,240 Speaker 1: try to point out one group and try to change 1767 01:37:49,240 --> 01:37:52,400 Speaker 1: their mind then you fail. It's about talking to everybody 1768 01:37:52,640 --> 01:37:54,840 Speaker 1: in such a way that they all feel positive and 1769 01:37:54,880 --> 01:37:58,280 Speaker 1: feel comfortable standing down, eating with you, talking with you, 1770 01:37:58,600 --> 01:38:01,120 Speaker 1: driving down the street with you, sharing a meal is 1771 01:38:01,160 --> 01:38:04,560 Speaker 1: most important. If you won't have a blest day, opportunities 1772 01:38:04,600 --> 01:38:06,320 Speaker 1: your way. I'll be back next week. More on money 1773 01:38:06,360 --> 01:38:10,080 Speaker 1: making Conversation UM your host with Sean McDonald. Life is good, 1774 01:38:10,320 --> 01:38:17,120 Speaker 1: Keep winning. Nearby, you need to check out the wireless 1775 01:38:17,120 --> 01:38:20,400 Speaker 1: earbuds from Recon. 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