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Speaker 1: Now again, if I had a nickel for every time

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Speaker 1: I heard this Saturday night that the last time the

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Speaker 1: Washington Redskins commanders, whatever the hell you want to call them,

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Speaker 1: we're in the NFC Championship game was thirty two years ago.

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Speaker 1: Well technically it was thirty three. It was January seventeenth,

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety two. Trust me, I know because coincidentally and

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Speaker 1: or ironically, however you want a character, they played the

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Speaker 1: Detroit Lions and they beat them forty one to ten,

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Speaker 1: and they proceeded to go to Super Bowl twenty six

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Speaker 1: and beat the Buffalo Bills. So do with that what

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Speaker 1: you will. But I got to tell you Bill Belichick

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Speaker 1: might have it right. In the NFL more games are

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Speaker 1: lost than one. In one of the craziest, most intense,

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Speaker 1: wild crazy guy playoff games I've seen in a while,

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Speaker 1: Jane Daniels and nine and a half point underdog number

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Speaker 1: six seed Washington Commanders strolling to Detroit and they pulled

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Speaker 1: off a stunning upset. Nobody had them winning. You can

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Speaker 1: say you did fine. Go play some blackjack tonight, so

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Speaker 1: the dealer shows you a seventeen. Take a hit. Maybe

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Speaker 1: you hit a four and you can brag about that too.

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Speaker 1: Not only one. They put up forty five points. Wash

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Speaker 1: can beat Detroit forty five and thirty one. That doesn't

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Speaker 1: even begin to tell the story. Jade Daniels proving that quarterback,

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Speaker 1: who's the position you play with your eyes? Take notes

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Speaker 1: Justin Fields, please, that's why you're fourteen and thirty as

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Speaker 1: a starter. And I'm always bashing him. By the way,

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Speaker 1: I like Justin Fields. I think he's a stellar individual.

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Speaker 1: And I mean that I don't want to play a

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Speaker 1: quarterback for my team though. Quarterbacks a position you play

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Speaker 1: with your eyes. You receive the ball, you make mental snapshots,

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Speaker 1: oh what's taking place, and then you execute. And that's

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Speaker 1: exactly what Jaden Daniels does. And that's why, no matter

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Speaker 1: how many times Detroit blitzed tonight, and they were committed

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Speaker 1: to the blitz, he was twenty two to thirty one

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Speaker 1: for two ninety nine two touchdowns, didn't take a single sack,

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Speaker 1: didn't throw a pick. His counterpart, Jared Goff, you saw

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Speaker 1: what happened. They were turnover machines. I will not batch

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Speaker 1: Jared Goff. Knock yourself out. Rams fans. You're all happy

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Speaker 1: he left down. Good for you. I'm glad Stafford left

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Speaker 1: town in Detroit, so there. But I'll tell you this,

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Speaker 1: in addition to me not bashing Jared Goff, you have

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Speaker 1: to ask yourself that Detroit Lions defense. And I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: get to that in a minute that I've been worried

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Speaker 1: about since since Thanksgiving. Come on, man, they couldn't get

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Speaker 1: Washington off the field. Hell, I remember one of our

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Speaker 1: high school football coaches used to say, hey, make them punt,

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Speaker 1: make them punt. Washington controlled time of possession. They put

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Speaker 1: up a ton of yards. Okay, you get it all right.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Washington's run game terrific, terrific. They ran

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Speaker 1: the ball forty two times for one hundred and eighty

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Speaker 1: Brian Robinson had a day, Jeedmy mac nichols, who's didn't

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Speaker 1: used to be on Family Tigers. Who are these people?

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Speaker 1: Washington held the ball for thirty three minutes and fifty

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Speaker 1: Your shorts aren't clean either, and at the end of

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Speaker 1: plugged in there. It hurts, it stings. I feel terrible

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Speaker 1: for the city of Detroit. Is a bart Giamatti once said,

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Speaker 1: the games are designed to break your heart, and they are.

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Speaker 1: But even before you know, I'll tell you what, I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you what. I'm not done. I just talked about

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Speaker 1: the Washington offense and how explosive they were, and how

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Speaker 1: fishing they were and how surgical they were. That was

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Speaker 1: overshadowed by their defense. They had a sort of a

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Speaker 1: bend but don't break, you know, game plan. They gave

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Speaker 1: Dude's a baller, man, he is a baller. He had

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Speaker 1: Four different quarter four different Lions players through passes. Jamison

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Speaker 1: just piled up yards right and left. By getting three,

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Speaker 1: up and down the field of relative ease. Jamier Gibbs

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Speaker 1: And look, here's that's not Bury the lead. Detroit has

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Speaker 1: ball for weeks now. Things finally boiled over. Washington average

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Speaker 1: between those timely conversions and the turnovers they forced, it

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Speaker 1: a result, here you go again, Washington headed to the

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Speaker 1: NFC Title Game for the first time in thirty three years.

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Speaker 1: Can Jade Daniels become the first rookie quarterback to take

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Speaker 1: That's why the Commanders won a stone col baller of

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Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback, a defense that made plays when they

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Speaker 1: needed to in situational football, Jaden Damiels was lights out

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Speaker 1: And the law firm of Robinson, mclaur and Inerts give

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Speaker 1: We've talked about the Lions defense being maligned, how about

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Speaker 1: up to Dan Quinn. And this is why the Lions

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Speaker 1: them punt golf? Picked off three times, fumbled once, his

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Speaker 1: mention there were multiple key penalties including how does this

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Speaker 1: What was the turning point? Honestly, I think it was

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Speaker 1: this with the Lions leading seven to three in the

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Speaker 1: three consecutive touchdown drives and throwing a pick six just

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Speaker 1: for fun. And all of a sudden, you turn a

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Speaker 1: potential two score deficit into a two score lead. Unreal.

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Speaker 1: What's next? Washington heads to the NFC title game? I

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Speaker 1: imagine this now. Do I think the Rams are gonna

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Speaker 1: win in Philadelphia Sunday? No? I don't. But if boy

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Speaker 1: my buddy Kurt Kretzch kar Kurt Kretschmarby happy, the Rams

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Speaker 1: who started one to four in Theory could be hosting

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Speaker 1: the NFC championship game, are you kidding me?

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Speaker 1: Now, I'm not kidding you. The good news is believe

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Speaker 1: it or not, and it feels like a million miles away.

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Speaker 1: There's still plenty of optimism in Detroit. They had a

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Speaker 1: multitude of injuries that's gonna reset coming in the next season,

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Speaker 1: You're gonna see Aiden Hutchinson back, Lee McNeil back. They'll

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Speaker 1: managed to go fifteen to two with a skeleton crew defense.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't happen very much in the NFL. You know

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Speaker 1: the Commanders tonight, the Lions had a no name defensive

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Speaker 1: guys I even wouldn't have heard of back in August.

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Speaker 1: Maurice Norris, Al Kadeen, Mohammad Kendal, Victor Field or excuse me,

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Speaker 1: these are not players who would be starting. I'm pretty

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Speaker 1: Of course, then again, if your aunt Hick Cahoni should

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Speaker 1: sharp defensive turnaround even if Aaron Glenn's in the long

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Speaker 1: year under his belt. He's going to be one of

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Speaker 1: the top quarnerbacks. And it's rakestraw Jack Campbell the only

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Speaker 1: second season exceled solid linebacker. So look the lot. Detroit's

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Speaker 1: the greatest sports town in America. I know in their

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Speaker 1: heart of hearts are thanking the lines and their players.

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Speaker 1: For an exciting four months, the Lions were the best

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Speaker 1: talk of the nation. And again the defense. It was

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Speaker 1: just a matter of time. I've been saying it since

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Speaker 1: the second half of the Bears game. They were cursed.

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Speaker 1: And then Emik Robertson suffered as carry injury early in

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Speaker 1: been the star of the defense. Look at the film

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Speaker 1: against against the Vikings in Week eighteen. They pressured Sam

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Speaker 1: Darnel and nearly every down got a few sacks. They

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Speaker 1: were looking for that encore performance to that against Saturday

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Speaker 1: Night against Jayden Daniels, and it didn't happen. Did the

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Speaker 1: defensive lines simply failed to generate pressure. They had a

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Speaker 1: You know how to beat the blitz Screens draws, traps.

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Speaker 1: Oh one was a fifty eight yard screen to Terry McLaurin, who,

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Speaker 1: in his tenure in Washington has never had him. He's

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Speaker 1: had plumbers and pipe fitters throwing to him. Now he's

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Speaker 1: got a real quarterback. The key to stopping the Washington

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Speaker 1: offense was to make life tough for Jade and Daniels.

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Speaker 1: They could not do that. He may be a rookie,

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Speaker 1: but he looks like a veteran. He completely calm carved

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Speaker 1: for the final time again the defense. You can bag

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Speaker 1: Washington on the ground as well, not just through the year.

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Speaker 1: Brian Robinson look terrific average about seven yards of carry.

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Speaker 1: He only got sixteen yards against Tampa Bay last week

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Speaker 1: the way, the Lions often lost contained couldn't set the edge.

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Speaker 1: Aiden Hutchinson was gone. He'll return next season. He should

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Speaker 1: resume his unreal level of play. But with the rest,

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Speaker 1: Coming up, we're gonna bring in a gentleman. A wealth

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Speaker 4: I'm doing well. I'm just glad to be on with you,

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Speaker 1: Listen, Amal. I don't know if you've heard of my

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Speaker 4: I followed Jamo's career since he's been at Ohio State

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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about the other game that was

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Speaker 4: You know, Bernie Steph Curry is a great player, but

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Speaker 4: by the Rams earlier this year, and so I think

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Speaker 4: you got to get Buffalo the edge here. Whether it

429
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Speaker 4: could be a little bit of a factor cold weather

430
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Speaker 4: in Buffalo at Orchard Park. How does Lamar far in

431
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Speaker 4: this situation remains to be seen. Last year in the

432
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Speaker 4: AFT Championship game against Kansas City didn't play an overwhelming games.

433
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Speaker 4: The perimeter without Jay Flowers is a real challenge from

434
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Speaker 4: this Ravens team got to rely on Mark Andrews and

435
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Speaker 4: then the eighteen wheeler. Dereck Henry is going to have

436
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Speaker 4: to have a big day. If Buffalo's accuse a. Baltimore

437
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Speaker 4: is going to win this game. If the Bill is

438
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Speaker 4: going to come out Victoria's, They've got to shut down Henry.

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Speaker 4: If they can do that, I think they've got a

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Speaker 4: great chance to win the game. But Lamar's ability to

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Speaker 4: scramble and make plays. It's going to put a lot

442
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Speaker 4: of pressure on this Buffalo defense. Bernie sounds like to me,

443
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Speaker 4: you might be leaning towards the Bills here, but I

444
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Speaker 4: hate to do it. But I'm going to go with

445
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Speaker 4: the road chalk here. I just think Lamar presents too

446
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Speaker 4: many problems. The one thing that could come back to

447
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Speaker 4: bite Harbaugh and company is if they try these long

448
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Speaker 4: distance field goals with Justin Tucker. I firmly believe this

449
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 4: is his last year in Baltimore. He has dropped off precipitously.

450
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Speaker 4: I don't think this team's going to be able to

451
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Speaker 4: continue to do what they're doing with him sitting there

452
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Speaker 4: trying these long distance kicks that go awry, and Buffalo

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Speaker 4: they have to have zero turnovers in this game. I

454
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Speaker 4: don't think they can afford to turn the ball over

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Speaker 4: and give the Ravens a shortfield.

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Speaker 1: And just to set the recordstrate I have not fired

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Speaker 1: on this game. You can make a case for both sides,

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna watch it like a fan. But you

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Speaker 1: bring up a great point about kickers. Justin Tucker has

460
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Speaker 1: had a very tough season twenty two to three, and

461
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Speaker 1: Tyler Bass it wasn't that long ago. He pulled to

462
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Speaker 1: Scott Norwood wide right last season against Kansas City in

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Speaker 1: the divisional game. So this game could come down to kickers.

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Speaker 1: And if does anybody have an edge in this game

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Speaker 1: if it comes down.

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Speaker 4: To kickers, I think it's a toss up right now

467
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Speaker 4: because the one thing that the Ravens haven't seem to

468
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Speaker 4: figure it out. They still think they've got Justin Tucker

469
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Speaker 4: from twenty twenty twenty twenty one. If you look at

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Speaker 4: over the last two seasons, he's been the worst ticker

471
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Speaker 4: in the NFL from fifty yards and beyond, So they

472
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Speaker 4: can't think those unnecessary risks they need. They're guy in

473
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Speaker 4: the MVP in my opinion, Lamar Jackson number eighth to

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Speaker 4: continue do what he's been doing.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about the NFC game. As I

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Speaker 1: look at this, I just feel this is a bad

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Speaker 1: matchup for the Rams, honestly for multiple reasons. And Stafford's

478
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Speaker 1: won and eight in cool weather games. The Rams allow

479
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Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty yards on the ground this season

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Speaker 1: at Boswell for Saquon Barkley. I feel like if the

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Speaker 1: Eagles want to, they'll bludge in the Rams with their

482
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Speaker 1: running attack, and I think vig Vanju will dial up

483
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Speaker 1: enough things to keep Stafford confused. Not saying the Rams

484
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Speaker 1: aren't going to compete, but I feel like I feel

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Speaker 1: like the Eagles win and cover this number. What are

486
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Speaker 1: your thoughts?

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Speaker 4: Look, I'm kind of up in the air on this one.

488
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Speaker 4: I think this is going to be a tight game.

489
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Speaker 4: The one thing I get in the edge two for me,

490
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Speaker 4: quarterback play goes to the Rams, and the coaching advantage

491
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Speaker 4: goes to the Rams as well. I'm not a big

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Speaker 4: knick Sirianni guy. I think Sharianni's got a ton of

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Speaker 4: talent on his roster and sometimes they can overcomes some

494
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Speaker 4: of his decisions of unnecessary risk thinking. I think Sean

495
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Speaker 4: mcvay's ability to keep it eat and keel helps this

496
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Speaker 4: Rams team quite a bit. You know, when you look

497
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Speaker 4: at it. We talk about the Eagles, and rightfully so,

498
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Speaker 4: they've had a tremendous year. There are two drop catches

499
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Speaker 4: away in the regular season, the Saquon Barkley fourth down

500
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Speaker 4: to three against Atlanta. I mentioned the Devonte Smith and

501
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Speaker 4: won against the Commanders. These were drop passes, not something

502
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Speaker 4: defended by those two offers opponents. This team could have

503
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Speaker 4: had a sixteen and one regular season. However, with that

504
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Speaker 4: being said, they didn't look like remember when you looked

505
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Speaker 4: at those Niners and Cowboys teams and they went fourteen

506
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Speaker 4: and two or thirteen and three, they look dominant. To me,

507
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Speaker 4: Philly hasn't necessarily looked that dominant in a lot of situations.

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Speaker 4: I think the Eagles win this game, but I like

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Speaker 4: the Rams and the points here. I think Nikua and

510
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Speaker 4: Cooper present some challenges. And then Tyrad Williams is it's

511
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Speaker 4: crazy to say for somebody in the LA market, but

512
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Speaker 4: Tyrad Williams has been criminally underrated in my estimation.

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Speaker 1: Yet very good, Yeah, very good. All right, Just for giggles,

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Speaker 1: let's say the Eagles and Ravens move on. You know

515
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Speaker 1: both number you know Philly and Kansas City would host

516
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Speaker 1: those games. Do both home teams prevail and move on

517
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Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl? Do you think there'd be an upset?

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Speaker 1: Just look, just look ahead for your fire from the

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Speaker 1: hip super Bowl prediction.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would go with the Eagles in the NFC.

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Speaker 4: I think the Eagles in the driver's seat. Now you

522
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Speaker 4: got both games potentially at the link your great position there,

523
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Speaker 4: and then from the AFC perspective, it's kind of like

524
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Speaker 4: you got to dethrone the King, and until Baltimore does it,

525
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Speaker 4: I think it'll be different than it was during the

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Speaker 4: regular season because I really believe this weather is going

527
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Speaker 4: to play a factor.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I agree, it's.

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Speaker 4: Just listen for people that haven't. Let Bernie, you grew

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Speaker 4: up in I mean you live in Detroit. Yeah, I

531
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Speaker 4: grew up in Cleveland. Until you've been in that kind

532
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Speaker 4: of weather and you're outside and you get hit, you

533
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Speaker 4: don't really understand what it means when it's nine degrees

534
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Speaker 4: and the windshiw.

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Speaker 1: Is zero, no very much. So it has a cumulative effect.

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Speaker 1: And I think there's some questions. You know, Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 1: are going to have to move the ball through the year.

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Speaker 1: They can't just rely on Derrick Henry, although you are right,

539
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Speaker 1: if he gets going, he's going to be a problem.

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Speaker 1: But you can't be one dimensional. And so I'm watching

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Speaker 1: Hall Jackson operates from the pocket. So you know, maybe

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Speaker 1: get your back run for the super Bowl. But I

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Speaker 1: think you know, as far as what we can expect,

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Speaker 1: it feels like from here on out, it just feels

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Speaker 1: it's going to be chalk. It's going to be a

546
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Speaker 1: chalk tournament. But let's hold that thought before I dive

547
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Speaker 1: into the college game Sunday night or Monday night that

548
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Speaker 1: we want to get your take on. Let's just delve

549
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: into this ever so quickly. In this coaching carousel, as

550
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Speaker 1: much as I would love to see it, I don't

551
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Speaker 1: think Deon Sanders ends up as the coach of the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: Your thoughts on that, I don't.

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Speaker 4: Think so either. First of all, if you, Dion, do

554
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Speaker 4: you really want to take a job with Dak Truscott.

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Speaker 4: You've got, in my opinion, on a slighter, lesser version

556
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Speaker 4: of a Kirk Cousins there. I just don't think Dak

557
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Speaker 4: Truscott's a good enough quarterback to be able to win

558
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Speaker 4: a Super Bowl unless you assemble a team around him

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Speaker 4: that's got the talent of the nine Have or Kansas

560
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Speaker 4: City's defense, or something comparable to that. That's the first thing.

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Speaker 4: Because remember Dack's on that four year extension. You're right

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Speaker 4: in the middle of that. I don't know if you'd

563
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Speaker 4: want to be stuck with him there. I'm with you.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if Jerry's going to want to bring

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Speaker 4: in a coach that's going to have more casher and

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Speaker 4: name recognition than him. That's another thing. I think Jerry

567
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Speaker 4: likes to have some of these coaches where he can

568
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Speaker 4: kind of run the ship from afar, and I think

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Speaker 4: that'll be something to pay attention to. But you know, Bernie,

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Speaker 4: I don't know if if it's going to be for

571
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Speaker 4: sure not, but it seems like Ben Johnson's going to

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Speaker 4: be going to the Raiders potentially. Here's the thing. Do

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Speaker 4: you want your first job to be with the program

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Speaker 4: that is no quarterback?

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Speaker 1: See? This is an interesting dynamic. I'm glad you brought

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Speaker 1: that up. I was going to segue into that, be

577
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Speaker 1: careful what you wish for. The Raiders need somebody who's

578
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Speaker 1: been a CEO before this. I don't care how talented

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Speaker 1: Ben Johnson is that he is. He's going to be

580
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Speaker 1: learning on the job if he goes to the Raiders

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Speaker 1: and you don't have a quarterback. And this is a

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Speaker 1: franchise now paying four coaches in four years since they

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Speaker 1: got to Las Vegas. Mark Davis doesn't seem to care.

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Speaker 1: Does Tom Brady have that much power here? I mean,

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Speaker 1: I know that he's putting the full court press on

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Speaker 1: Ben Johnson. And if you believe the reports he's making

587
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Speaker 1: in roads. So the question is now Ben Johnson's free

588
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Speaker 1: to interview all day. Now, does Brady have that much

589
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Speaker 1: power that he could pull this off?

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Speaker 4: I don't know, but Brady Brady is seen like a

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Speaker 4: Jordan type of figure like Lebron has seemed like in

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Speaker 4: the NBA among his peers, and Brady is the same way.

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Speaker 4: From an NFL perspective, I think there is some of

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Speaker 4: that celebrity and just oh my gosh, that's Tom Brady

595
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,239
Speaker 4: type of situation there. But if you're Ben Johnson, you've

596
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Speaker 4: got to make the right decision here. Several friends and coaching,

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Speaker 4: and you know, one of things they always say is

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Speaker 4: people think, oh there's an opening, you got to take

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Speaker 4: the head coaching job. Some of you take for the money,

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Speaker 4: but these coordinators in the NFL are making enough money.

601
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Speaker 4: You don't need to necessarily jump into a situation. Because

602
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Speaker 4: if you don't jump into the right situation, Bernie, you

603
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Speaker 4: could be out of a job in twenty four to

604
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Speaker 4: thirty six months and you may never get another opportunity.

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Speaker 4: That things go completely sideways.

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Speaker 1: Agree, let's look ahead to Monday night. Certainly we've got

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Speaker 1: a couple of blue bloods Ohio State. I believe the

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Speaker 1: number is currently eight and a half. No way am

609
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Speaker 1: I getting in front of a speeding train. And they

610
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Speaker 1: won their first three games by fifty nine points. I

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Speaker 1: don't think Notre Dame's going to be able to double

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Speaker 1: Ohio State stud freshman receiver. But that's not the point.

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Speaker 1: When the two teams get on the field, the dynamic

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Speaker 1: takes you over who's more prepared that night. Do you

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Speaker 1: have an hangl one this game. I haven't fired on

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Speaker 1: it yet.

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Speaker 4: I like Ohio State by margin in this game. I

618
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Speaker 4: think they're really too dominated. You know, this game reminds

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Speaker 4: me a little bit of when Notre Dame played Alabama

620
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Speaker 4: in twenty twelve and they got beat forty two to fourteen.

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Speaker 4: I don't think it'll be as high at scoring, but

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Speaker 4: the reality of it is, let's be realistic here. Marcus

623
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Speaker 4: Freeman was getting ready to get pushed out of South

624
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Speaker 4: been by everybody when they lost in Northern Illinois. They

625
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Speaker 4: forget that they lost to Marshall last year. Now, all

626
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Speaker 4: of a sudden, you beat Indiana with Curtis Rourke, you

627
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Speaker 4: beat Drew Aller, and you beat a backup gunner Stockton

628
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Speaker 4: and I remember in that game, Kirby Smart made a

629
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Speaker 4: bad decision at the end of the first half to

630
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Speaker 4: try and move the football. I kept on saying, what

631
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Speaker 4: are you doing here? You're not going to go down

632
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Speaker 4: and score and you had six to three go to

633
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Speaker 4: the locker room only down three points the fumble. Riley

634
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 4: Leonard completes that thirteen yard pass and when people forgetting

635
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Speaker 4: that game, Riley Leonard had less than one hundred yards passing.

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Speaker 4: He was the leading rusher. I think Jeremiah Love is

637
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 4: one of the top running backs in college football. But

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00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 4: the one thing that had gotten overshadowed during this Ohio

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Speaker 4: State run and during the season. Yes, they lost to

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Speaker 4: Michigan and they lost to excuse me, Oregon, but against

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Speaker 4: Michigan they gave up points. Against Oregon they lost by

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Speaker 4: a single point. This defense has only given up more

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Speaker 4: than twenty points twice all year in the both times

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Speaker 4: were against Oregon and in.

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Speaker 3: The Road Bowl.

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Speaker 4: Those a couple it felt like garbage time scores. People

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Speaker 4: don't realize how elite is defenses. They kept Texas and

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Speaker 4: checked the fourteen points they shut down Tennessee. Tennessee scored

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Speaker 4: with less than a minute ago to make it a

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Speaker 4: seventeen point game. I mean, they have been thoroughly, thoroughly dominant,

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Speaker 4: and I think they're gonna be able to slow down

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Speaker 4: Riley Leonard. I thought Hartman last year was a better

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Speaker 4: passer than Riley Leonard is here. I think it's gonna

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Speaker 4: be a real challenge for them to slow down this

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Speaker 4: Ohio State defensive front. They've got sixteen sacks in the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: I think this is going to be It's got a

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Speaker 4: lot of hype, but I think the game is going

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Speaker 4: to be decided by halftime.

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Speaker 1: Listen. I honestly feel that way too. I feel like

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Speaker 1: it's a thirty to thirteen game. You bring up a

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Speaker 1: great point. Ohio's State is the best roster in the

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Speaker 1: country on both sides. No one talks about their defense.

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Speaker 1: The only allow twelve points a game this year, they

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Speaker 1: And Notre Dame's offense is not great. And you know

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Speaker 1: what I can't get out of my mind. If you

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Speaker 1: saw the USC Notre Dame game, UNC put up five

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Speaker 1: hundred yards against that vaunted Notre Dame defense. That's to

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Speaker 1: me a real red flag when you consider that Ohio

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Speaker 1: State's got weapons.

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Speaker 4: Galore, and to your point, it was a situation where

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Speaker 4: the couple of pick sixes saved them. Look, if you

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Speaker 4: know Will Howard has been tremendous most of the year.

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Speaker 4: If he doesn't make one or two aarrant throws, even

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Speaker 4: if you can shut down Jeremiah Smith, you still got

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Speaker 4: to contend with Abuca, Tate, j Scott at the tight end.

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Speaker 4: And then of course the two running backs Henderson and Judkins.

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Speaker 1: Look buddy good stuff. For some reason, I just simply

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Speaker 1: haven't had the colhones to fire on that game. And

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Speaker 1: I don't tease in college, so I may watch that

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Speaker 1: as a fan as well. But of all a great stuff.

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Speaker 1: Really appreciate you. Let's get you on a game before

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Speaker 1: too long. We'll talk soon.

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Speaker 4: Thanks, buddy. Appreciate the time as.

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Speaker 1: Amal Shaw Showtime Sports, many years with Brent Mussburger, as

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Speaker 1: Coming up, I want to give my quick takeaways on

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Speaker 1: the other game played today. You heard my thoughts on

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Speaker 1: Lions and Mandels. How about the Texans Chiefs. I've got

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Speaker 1: some thoughts you're gonna want to hear them. I'm Bernie

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app. Well, the Kansas City Chiefs game, especially the

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Speaker 1: way it ended, drew a lot of attention and how

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Speaker 1: was your day? But I have some other takeaways regarding

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs. Perhaps people have been waiting for this all year. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Travis kelce there was a big time Travis kelcey siding

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Speaker 1: when he caught that thirteen yard touchdown pass for Mahomes

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Speaker 1: that gave the Chiefs a twenty to twelve lead. It

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Speaker 1: felt like they were not going to be denied today,

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Speaker 1: and they weren't. And by the way, Kelsey also had

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Speaker 1: a forty nine yard catch and run, which was spectacular.

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Speaker 1: First time he'd gained more than twenty yards after the

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Speaker 1: catch yards after the catch the entire season, right seven catches,

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Speaker 1: one hundred and seventeen yards, one touchdown. When the situation

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Speaker 1: demands greatness, the Chiefs and their individual players are great.

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Speaker 1: And Kelsey has not had fifteen straight playoff games with

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Speaker 1: at least five receptions and seventy yards and those are

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Speaker 1: That's the longest streak in NFL history. Xavier Worthy is

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Speaker 1: everything is advertised and when you think about it, he

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Speaker 1: watched this game. And let's give the Texans credit. They

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Speaker 1: were game. They have deamed the Chiefs by one hundred

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Speaker 1: and fourteen yards. They led time and possession, and Hollywood Brown,

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Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins, Juju Smith Schuster were completely quiet. Worthy. Xavier

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Speaker 1: Worthy was the only wide receiver to catch pass. You know,

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Speaker 1: Mahomes didn't break any records today, sixty to twenty five,

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Speaker 1: a bucks seventy seven, but He now has sixteen career

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Speaker 1: postseason wins, tied with the guy you may have heard of,

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Speaker 1: Joe Montana, second most wins. He's got a way to

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Speaker 1: catch Tom Brady's got thirty five, and I get it.

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Speaker 1: The Chiefs offense began a little rusty, but the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: have done this more than once. Okay, they're always ready.

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Speaker 1: Nicki Romiggio returns the opening kickoff sixty three yards to

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Speaker 1: get stifled in the red zone. But the Chiefs, again,

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Speaker 1: they're the Chiefs. If you want to have some concerns

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Speaker 1: about the Chiefs, you might want to take a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a look at their run defense, which I

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Speaker 1: think is some what concerning. They might want to shore

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Speaker 1: up that run defense. Joe Mixon consistently found running lanes

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Speaker 1: between the tackles, and he got outside a couple of times.

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Speaker 1: He had a thirteen yard Touchdow Runner the third quarter

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Speaker 1: that got the you know, lead down to thirteen to twelve.

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Speaker 1: The kicker misses the extra point. We'll get to that

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Speaker 1: in a minute. But if you look ahead to next week,

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Speaker 1: let's say, just for giggles, the Chiefs faced the Baltimore Ravens.

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Speaker 1: They have the number one rushing attack in the league,

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Speaker 1: or even if they faced the Bills. The Bills are

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Speaker 1: a top nine offense. Chiefs gave up ninety five yards

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Speaker 1: on the ground in the first half a loon Saturday,

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Speaker 1: Houston averaged over five yards of carry. They ran for

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Speaker 1: a buck fifty all right, But do I think Steve

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Speaker 1: Spagnola will figure it out between now next week? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I do. But you can raise an eyebrow about that.

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Speaker 1: And that's also not forget the you know, I've said

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Speaker 1: it a thousand times. Football's played in three phases. Special

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Speaker 1: teams can be big. The Texans special teams had a

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Speaker 1: day to forget. First, they gave up a sixty three

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Speaker 1: yard kickoff return to begin the game, and their kicker,

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Speaker 1: Kymie Fairbairn, he badly misfired on a fifty five yard

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Speaker 1: field goal. The damn thing landed an overland park, hit

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Speaker 1: somebody in the head, then he missed the game tyg

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Speaker 1: extra point in the third period. Those just a flay

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Speaker 1: a team. And if it wasn't that bad, or if

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Speaker 1: that wasn't bad enough, then they had that thirty five

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Speaker 1: yard field goal blocked with them to two minutes to go.

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Speaker 1: Had it been a successful field goal, it would have

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Speaker 1: made it a one possession game. I know a lot

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Speaker 1: would have had to happen there, But you know, if

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Speaker 1: ifs and butts were canny and that's you all have

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Speaker 1: a merry Christmas. The Texans offensive line needs work. The

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Speaker 1: one thing the Chiefs did very well was pressure c

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Speaker 1: Days Drout. He was under durest the entire game. He

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Speaker 1: was sacked eight times, got hit more than Rocky Balboa.

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Speaker 1: The Chiefs had fourteen quarterback hits. Give it up to

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Speaker 1: George Carl Loftus. He had a big time coming out party.

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Speaker 1: Three sacks all by himself. And look, I think the

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Speaker 1: world of CJ. Stroud. He was sacked fifty two times

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Speaker 1: during the regular season. I think they've done a hell

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Speaker 1: of a job Dimico Ryans with this team, But Houston's

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Speaker 1: priority has to be on offensive line. Final thing, Andy

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Speaker 1: Reid joins a rare company. He got his three hundredth

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Speaker 1: career win Saturday, But like Patrick Mahomes says, he wants

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Speaker 1: three to or two up. Next, either Baltimore or Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: we go to the NBA. Mark Medina Medina Magic joins

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Speaker 1: us next. Keep it locked. You're listening to the Bernie

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Speaker 1: Very simply put, it's that time. Mark Medina Medina Magic

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Speaker 1: He's our Fox Sports Radio nbaguru. You hear him all

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Speaker 1: around the network. Mark, I want to start with this

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Speaker 1: would be signed off last Saturday night. It was uncertain

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Speaker 1: as to win the Los Angeles teams Lakers would resume

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Speaker 1: play given the historic e Ventsintona, California. And if I'm

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Speaker 1: with the Lakers, you were a little non plays and

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Speaker 1: by the way, all nonplust means as you were a

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Speaker 1: little surprised, not even sure how to react on that one.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes the audience doesn't know what we're saying here, so

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Speaker 1: I got to spell it out forgive me. But were

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Speaker 1: you a little nonplussed about that? And what were the

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Speaker 1: factors of the NBA considered that in making this decision

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I was uncertain about it at the time, only

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Speaker 5: continuing to get worse and the fire wasn't fully contained.

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Speaker 5: I think it was the right call. It's going to

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Speaker 5: be a long haul ahead, unfortunately with the rebuilding process,

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Speaker 5: but just from a safety standpoint right now, it was

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Speaker 5: clear that having the games wasn't going to compromise resources

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Speaker 5: with you know, traffic congestion, you know, paramedics being able

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Speaker 5: obviously there's business interest, but just being able to have

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Speaker 5: fans go to something to enjoy every day life was important.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, it was ultimately the right call, no brainer.

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Speaker 5: But you know, you were winded a week ago. There

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Speaker 5: was a lot more fluidity with what was going on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and so in retrospect, I think it was a

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Speaker 1: correct decision. Do you agree?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? And I think the other thing is that, you know, regardless,

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Speaker 5: was trying to reschedule games. I think that was part

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Speaker 5: of the thing is they want to minimize say that.

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Speaker 5: Obviously you do have to reschedule seeing games. You know

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Speaker 5: the fact that the first part of the Lakers Spurs

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Speaker 5: game was postponed, and the Lakers Hornets game and Clippers

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Speaker 5: Hornets game. But what I'm geing as it could have

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Speaker 5: been a lot worse.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, and I think they still had to reschedule nine games.

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Speaker 1: Is that correct about it?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, without a doubt. And I don't have the schedule

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Speaker 5: in front of me, but I know that the NBA

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Speaker 5: already rescheduled, you know, those Lakers Spurs and the Lakers

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Speaker 5: Hornets and Clippers Hornets games. But yeah, they're still figuring

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Speaker 5: some other things out.

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Speaker 1: All right. I want to talk about Jimmy Butler because

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Speaker 1: his suspension ended, the team suspension ended, and all I

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Speaker 1: heard heading up to the last day was it inside

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Speaker 1: But he starts scores eighteen points granted in a loss.

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Speaker 1: Where does things stand now with Jimmy Butler in the

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Speaker 1: Miami Heat.

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Speaker 5: It's still day to day. You know, February sixth is

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Speaker 5: when they have to make a decision when they trade.

855
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Speaker 5: So I think both sides are trying to make that happen.

856
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,760
Speaker 5: But the Heat want to have, you know, a really

857
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 5: good deal in return. The problem is, what is the

858
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 5: market for Jimmy Butler. He's not going to the Lakers,

859
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 5: He's not going to the Warriors. I don't think either

860
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 5: team's interested in Jimmy Bower, and I think in fairness,

861
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 5: they don't really have a lot of assets that the

862
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 5: Heat are interested in. So which teams could be players?

863
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 5: Maybe the Denver Nuggets. The doubt would require them to

864
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 5: dangle Michael Porter Junior the Milwaukee Buck as a team.

865
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 5: I know that's obviously been reported from some other outlets.

866
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 5: But the reality is it's gonna be really complicated because

867
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 5: the Heat don't believe in rebuilds. Even though they've had

868
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 5: an up and down season, they still can be in

869
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 5: the plan mix, be in the playoffs mix. And the

870
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 5: other thing is the Heat don't necessarily have to adhere

871
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 5: to Jimmy Butler's demands. But from a practical standpoint, he

872
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 5: does have some leverage here because he has a fifty

873
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 5: two million dollar player option next summer. And that doesn't

874
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 5: mean that technically the Heat have to trade Jimmy Butler

875
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 5: before the trade deadline, but if they don't, he obviously

876
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 5: has fifty two million reasons to opt into that, and

877
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,399
Speaker 5: then you know, there is a chance that he would

878
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 5: come back the following season or they would have to

879
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 5: find a trading partner that would take that kind of salary,

880
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 5: and so that could be even more complicated here. So

881
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 5: usually the Heat aren't a team that gets buoyed around,

882
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 5: and pat Riley and Mickey Rison run things the way

883
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 5: that they want to see fit. But this is a

884
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 5: very complex predicament. But in the short term, Jimmy Butler's back,

885
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,240
Speaker 5: He's going to want to play well to Booster's trade value.

886
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 5: The Miami Heat are going to want to have him

887
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 5: play well at Boosters trade value, but very much is

888
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:27,439
Speaker 5: tenuous day to day.

889
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 1: Let's fast forward. How surprised would you be if Jimmy

890
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 1: Butler's still on the roster in April?

891
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 5: I would be surprised, you know, I don't think that

892
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 5: the Heat are going to accept a deal that just

893
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 5: has them collect a bunch of draft picks. But I

894
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,359
Speaker 5: think that it's much different that if he was going

895
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 5: to be a free agent, because they would just say,

896
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 5: you know what, we'll let you walk and we'll enjoy

897
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,280
Speaker 5: the cap space here. Because he has a player option,

898
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 5: that's a huge game changer. The Heat don't want to

899
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 5: have to take back any more salary than they want to,

900
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 5: and the fact that he would be due for fifty

901
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 5: two million dollars makes even more challenging to strike a

902
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 5: deal given his injury situation this past year.

903
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 1: Exactly, And there in lies the dilemma. Teams know the situation,

904
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 1: any potential trading partner, dance partner knows the situation. I'm

905
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: sure that he privately would like to drive him to

906
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 1: the airport tomorrow and be done with it. But they

907
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 1: also know that they don't want to give him away

908
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: for a bag of ball. So there in lies the

909
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: dilemma I think I'm alluding to, and I certainly accept

910
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: your answer, But if you know, you're pretty emphatic, where

911
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,879
Speaker 1: does he end up? Then? How do they consummate this deal?

912
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 4: You know?

913
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 5: Here, here's The other thing that makes it complicated is

914
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 5: that if Jimmy Butler was really about okay, he wants

915
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 5: to find a team that maximizes roy, he wins, he

916
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 5: opts out of that player option, and he joins the

917
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 5: team even though helves a pay cut. In fairness, I

918
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 5: don't think any of us would turn out fifty two

919
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 5: million dollars. But clearly the rain on the wall is

920
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,720
Speaker 5: this connect has to do with the fact that the

921
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 5: Heat were unwilling to give him an extension before the

922
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:17,399
Speaker 5: season started. And I don't blame the Heat. He has

923
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 5: injury history. Now where they did have shortcomings, has actually

924
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 5: got the Finals in twenty twenty three. In there in

925
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 5: eighth seed, they didn't retain a lot of their players,

926
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 5: you know, gave Vincent and Caleb Martin. Now. Part of

927
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 5: it how to do with the fact that they want

928
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 5: to go big game hunting with Damian Loward and Jimmy

929
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 5: Butler is all about that, but they drew a y

930
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 5: in the stand that they don't want to get their roster. So,

931
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 5: you know, Miami definitely isn't blameless here. They've had their

932
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 5: own mistakes, but I think everything they've done was on

933
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 5: you know, do good efforts, and there was a lot

934
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 5: of uh, you know, good intention with everything, but clearly,

935
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 5: you know, the once Jimmy Bower realized he wasn't get

936
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:05,320
Speaker 5: to the extension, his frustrations mounted throughout the season.

937
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 1: I do agree with you, nobody would in the right

938
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 1: mind would turn down fifty two million dollars. But I

939
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: just got a text from Dennis Shruder he said, I

940
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,479
Speaker 1: turned down eighty seven million. What are you talking about?

941
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 1: Little levity on a Saturday night Mark? You know that's

942
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: my calling card, right.

943
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, that's a whole other case where he miscalculated

944
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:28,879
Speaker 5: what his earnings could be and he's wanting to regret it.

945
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 1: Hey, by the way, that kind of segues into what

946
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 1: I want to talk about next. We're just really, you know, less, well,

947
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:41,280
Speaker 1: around two weeks away from the trade deadline, which is Thursday,

948
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: February sixth, not really hearing a hell of a lot

949
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: of trade rumors. I know the Nets have gotten rid

950
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 1: of a couple people, including Dennis Shruder, But who's the

951
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,439
Speaker 1: big name out there that you expect to move?

952
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 5: Well, the Brooklyn Nets became sellers because clearly they're in

953
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 5: the tank mode business now, so they can get a

954
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 5: Cooper flag next summer, you know, and and improving their

955
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 5: lottery ons. I suspect that the Washington Wizards are going

956
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:15,720
Speaker 5: to be sellers because they're not good right now and uh,

957
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,760
Speaker 5: you know, they're trying to develop Alexar their number two picks.

958
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 5: So I would think that you ownis Valentnis would be

959
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 5: a prime candidate. You know, you look at guys like

960
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 5: Kyle Kuzma. Uh, he could be a candidate as well.

961
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:31,839
Speaker 5: Jordan Poole's had a career year, but I don't want

962
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,320
Speaker 5: to say anyone's in touch with the Wizards like they're

963
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 5: at the Bottomed Eastern Conference. But he has, you know,

964
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 5: carved himself a nice role where, you know, unlike his

965
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 5: time with the Warriors, there's better consistency. He's showing some

966
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:50,280
Speaker 5: leadership qualities. But regardless of that, I would expect Washington

967
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:54,280
Speaker 5: be a seller, most notably with Valentness and with Kuzma.

968
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 5: But here's here's the problem here. Obviously we talked about

969
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:01,800
Speaker 5: Jimmy Butler, but uh, there's no other you know, player

970
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 5: that's considered a missing piece to a championship puzzle that

971
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:12,399
Speaker 5: really changes the landscape. And Adam Johnson, Okay, I mean, yeah,

972
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 5: he'll be a you know.

973
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 1: You know the reason I say that, I forgive me

974
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 1: for cutting you off, because you're right about the Nets.

975
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 1: But for some reason they're going to drive a hard

976
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 1: barking for Cam Johnson. He's a good player, he's in

977
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 1: his Priyan not you know, not a great player. Why

978
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: does the Brooklyn Nets want so much back for him? Then?

979
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 5: Well it's just leverage. I mean they're they're trying to

980
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 5: gut everything. They want to get Cooper Cup or not

981
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 5: Cooper Cup. He's with the Rams, got Cooper Flag with

982
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 5: the firm Duke when he becomes the number one pick. Yeah,

983
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 5: Cam Johnson's a role player. I mean, yeah, he's a

984
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 5: great player. The Nets have been No. Nine when he

985
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 5: hasn't played, Like clearly he has a skill set, but

986
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 5: he's not He's not a game changer. So yeah, I'm

987
00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 5: not seeing unless joannas Anton Decompo asked for trade or

988
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 5: any other star there's I don't think there's anyone here

989
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 5: that moves the needle. You know, Walker Castler with the

990
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 5: Utah Jazz, that's a really good player and I think

991
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 5: the Lakers should go for But knowing how Danny Ainge is,

992
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 5: he wants the farm. With that, I mean with Rudy Goberr.

993
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:19,720
Speaker 5: He got a million draft picks out of that deal,

994
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:23,320
Speaker 5: and I think that he has high expectations. With Walker Custler,

995
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,399
Speaker 5: what I'm gaining at is there doesn't seem to be

996
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 5: that player that is a game changer. Jimmy Butler is

997
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 5: a nice player, but because of the injury history, because

998
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 5: of questions about okay, it has to be the right fit.

999
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 5: I don't think teams are going to be gutting the

1000
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,919
Speaker 5: roster just to make that happen. So with that, it's

1001
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 5: going to be busy. Teams are going to text and call,

1002
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 5: but there's going to be moves, but I think it's

1003
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 5: all going to be pretty marginal. To be honest with you,

1004
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:50,800
Speaker 5: I think.

1005
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,359
Speaker 1: The New Orleans Pelicans should take a serious look at

1006
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe not Herb Jones, but certainly Zion. It's funny,

1007
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 1: since we talked about this last Saturday, have he to

1008
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 1: come up a couple of times now that the Pelicans

1009
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 1: really should consider moving on from Zion. Trey Murphy guys

1010
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 1: like that, and you know what, the Pistons I understand.

1011
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 1: I guess I'm kind of asking two questions here. The

1012
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,439
Speaker 1: Pistons all of a sudden now look like a team

1013
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 1: not only that should be in the playoff picture, but

1014
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: could theoretically make some noise. So do they find a

1015
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: dance partner with Kate Cunningham or if they do that,

1016
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 1: does that take away from kid Cunningham's possessions? Is a

1017
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 1: double edged sword. Thoughts on the Pistons, Thoughts on the Pelicans.

1018
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, with the Pelicans, yeah, I would expect them

1019
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,919
Speaker 5: to try to be sellers. Now, this is a tough

1020
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:40,760
Speaker 5: predicament because, again Zion Williamson, I haven't got any indication

1021
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 5: that the Pelicans have finally gotten to the point that

1022
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 5: they are going to get rid of them. Because even

1023
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 5: though they haven't been happy with the fact that he

1024
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,319
Speaker 5: missed the team Flyda who was very telling that they

1025
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 5: preeptively put out a statement with quotes from David Griffin.

1026
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 5: I think that you have to keep in mind a

1027
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 5: few things. When he's on the court, he is really good.

1028
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 5: They are a small market teams, so they have to

1029
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 5: not take this lightly with trading a generational type star

1030
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 5: that can fill in the seats here. But I think

1031
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 5: to a lesser extent they have been trying to find

1032
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 5: a trading part with brandon Ingram titting back to last summer.

1033
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 5: You know, part of it has to do with salary

1034
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:27,919
Speaker 5: cap restrictions of second aprin concerns, but it also has

1035
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 5: to do with just fit. You know, they already have CJ. McCollum.

1036
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:37,760
Speaker 5: There feels like there's a redundancy with ball handling responsibility,

1037
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 5: especially since they had to Jeantey Murray last summer. He

1038
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 5: did not do well in the first round against Oklahoma City.

1039
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 5: So I'm a brandon Ingram fan at like his game,

1040
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 5: but I think that the Pelicans have concluded that, you

1041
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 5: know what, he's not a number one guy, and maybe

1042
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 5: not even the number two guy. But I think because

1043
00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:01,240
Speaker 5: of that, teams might not view beyond as that missing

1044
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 5: championship piece. So that's number one as far as the

1045
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 5: Pistons go. Yeah, they're going to be in the playoffs.

1046
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:11,360
Speaker 5: It's not you know, whether it's going to be playing

1047
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 5: or at the sixth seed. That remains to be seen.

1048
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 5: But they have a really good combination of obviously a

1049
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 5: lot of good young talent, but there's a maturity to them.

1050
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 5: There's a lot more structure, there's a lot more discipline.

1051
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 5: Talking to them a week with Beasley a few weeks ago,

1052
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 5: he mentioned how, you know, they have adopted what he

1053
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 5: calls the breakfast club of guys coming in before shoot

1054
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 5: around to get workout in, and that's a sign of

1055
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 5: you know, a lot of good mature players that are

1056
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 5: about the right thing.

1057
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 1: You know. Surprisingly, and for me, someone under the radar,

1058
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 1: the Memphis Grizzlies are having a fine season, even though

1059
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 1: John Morant just missed his eighteenth game so he's now

1060
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 1: no longer eligible for postseason awards. Have I underestimated Memphis?

1061
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean you should have considered them to be

1062
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:04,399
Speaker 5: back in the mix. Obviously, it mostly starts with John

1063
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:08,280
Speaker 5: Moran's availability, but you know, I think that they've really

1064
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 5: taken the lessons from the past few playoff seasons that

1065
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Speaker 5: we're underachieving that you know, talk is cheap and now

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00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 5: it's about the actions and maturing. A lot part of

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00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 5: that obviously has to do with John his availability and

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00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 5: you know, not gain in trouble again, but it also

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00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 5: has to do with their supporting cast. I mean, someone

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00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:31,919
Speaker 5: like Marcus Smart really sets the tone. He's coming off

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00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 5: the bench. He's not necessarily thrilled about it, but there's

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00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 5: a buy in, and I think that's a trickle down

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00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 5: effect because of who he was, who he is with,

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Speaker 5: you know, playing with the Boston Celtics, having that respect

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00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 5: level of being in the finals. But Zach Edi, you know,

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00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 5: their top draft pick, has shown he's an NBA player.

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00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 5: Sharon Jackson Junior is a great defender. Desn Bane is

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00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:59,359
Speaker 5: a great two way player. Scottie Pippen Junior has been

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00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 5: a diamond in the roughs. And you know, if I'm

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Speaker 5: the Lakers, I would write a lot that I didn't

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00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 5: do what I could to keep them and give them

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Speaker 5: more playing time. They have a really good balanced team

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Speaker 5: and Taylor Jenkins is a really great coach.

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Speaker 1: Talking with Mark Medina Medina Magic Fox Sports Radio on

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Speaker 1: every Saturday night twelve minute and then Bernie Frattles Show

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Speaker 1: twelve midnight Pacific, Mark, I want to switch gears, but

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Speaker 1: I consider this to be very serious subject matter that

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Speaker 1: you haven't talked about in a long time. Almost a year.

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00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 1: There were reports court reports this last week that indicated

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00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:35,359
Speaker 1: that John tay Porter, and this has been reported by

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Speaker 1: reputable organizations I believe, including The New York Times, He

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00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 1: admitted to a scheme where he intentionally influenced game performance.

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Speaker 1: He was texting betters, I'm going back to the locker

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Speaker 1: room to get my eye checked down. Don't know if

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00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:48,760
Speaker 1: I'm going to play much more. It's going to affect

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Speaker 1: prop bets for him. How concerning is this to the

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00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 1: commissioner Adam Silver and so he addressed this and what

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Speaker 1: is the NBA. How's the NBA dealing with this?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's very area. I mean, the NBA go dating

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Speaker 5: back to the Tim Donicky scandal almost what's fifteen seventeen

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Speaker 5: years ago. The thing that keeps them up on at

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Speaker 5: night is any notion that there's an impurity to the game.

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00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 5: And you know, whether it's officiating or whether there's you know,

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00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 5: some inside inside efforts from players betting on outcomes. They

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00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 5: don't want that to happen, obviously, and they're very sensitive

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Speaker 5: to it. And here, you know, unlike in the past era,

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00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 5: the NBA has embraced for business reasons, having partnerships with

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Speaker 5: different gambling companies when it comes to ads and and

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Speaker 5: all that. And they've been embracing that. But here is

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00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 5: kind of the downside of that that this opens up

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00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 5: a Pandoras box of players, you know, being able to

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00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 5: you know, take advantage of the information that they have

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Speaker 5: and tip off people that want to gamble on outcomes.

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Speaker 5: And it's not just you know, the games themselves, it's

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Speaker 5: the prop bets over every little minuti thing. So I

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Speaker 5: think we'll find out what the NBA's findings are and

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Speaker 5: what their decisions are. But I think there is a

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00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 5: little bit of a side of relief that as of now,

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Speaker 5: there hasn't been any knowledge that any other player is

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Speaker 5: involved with us. And you know, they take this seriously

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Speaker 5: because any incident is bad. But Johntay Porter wasn't really

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Speaker 5: a relevant player, and so I think that there's a

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Speaker 5: sigh of relief that as of now, this isn't a

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Speaker 5: signal that this is part of a widespread paper trail.

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Speaker 1: Well, and I know there are mechanisms in place living

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Speaker 1: here in Vegas. The sportsbooks really do cooperate with the

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Speaker 1: NBA and all the major sports leagues when they see

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Speaker 1: irregular betting patterns or something unusual. And with today's metadata

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Speaker 1: and electronic you know, it's not hard to sort of

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Speaker 1: follow the money. If you get my drift. One last thing, Mark,

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Speaker 1: and this is our checkout. Excuse me, yeah, Mark, that

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Speaker 1: I was nonplussed when I saw what is the situation

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00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 1: where Lebron James and Maverick Carter are trying to coalesce

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Speaker 1: a group of investors to put together five billion dollars

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Speaker 1: to create an international basketball league to compete with the NBA.

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Speaker 1: Am I is my discernment on that. Correct? What's going

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Speaker 1: on here?

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Speaker 5: Well, to clarify here, Lebron James isn't a part of this,

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00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 5: but his business manager is. So it is interesting because yes,

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Speaker 5: the game is global, but the NBA is seen as,

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00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 5: you know, the best league in the world, and this

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Speaker 5: is where everyone plays, and so you want to have competition.

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Speaker 5: It's too early to know how this is going to

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Speaker 5: play out, but clearly, you know, every professional sports league

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00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 5: has a lot of interest for a number of reasons.

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00:59:56,040 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 5: People love sports, people love watch on TV, they love gambling,

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Speaker 5: they loves going to events. But I'm surprised that someone's

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Speaker 5: going to start a league that essentially could compete against

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Speaker 5: the NBA. I mean, the NBA has been king for

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Speaker 5: a while, and I know we talk about ratings decline,

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01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 5: et cetera, but that's a whole other conversation. The NBA

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Speaker 5: has never been as lucrative as it is now, So

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Speaker 5: I don't see the endgame here. I don't get it.

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Speaker 5: But look, everyone wants to find new ways to find

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Speaker 5: new revenue streams, and I guess this is one of them.

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Speaker 1: Well, for what it's worth, it's not a great read,

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Speaker 1: but it's a reed in Fortune magazine and gentleman by

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Speaker 1: the name of Paul Confino. His byline was the raising

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Speaker 1: five million for a basketball league to rival the NBA.

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Speaker 1: So you know, I'm sure he's researched. What does it matter.

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Speaker 1: I mean, these things happen all the time in terms

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Speaker 1: of we're an evolving society. But it caught my eye,

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Speaker 1: and I'm glad you corrected that, because that's my fault.

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Speaker 1: It just says leron james business partner. I'm glad you

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Speaker 1: corrected that that he's not actually involved.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think Lebron would be able to do

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Speaker 5: that as a current player, and I know that on

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01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 5: top of that, he has said that once he retires

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Speaker 5: at some point, he'd love to get involved as an

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Speaker 5: NBA owner, and so he's be part of you know,

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01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:22,439
Speaker 5: ownership groups that has different you know, business ties, whether

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Speaker 5: it's with the Boston Red Sox. I believe you know,

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01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 5: some teams, some soccer teams in the Champions League, but

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Speaker 5: much different than if it would be directly involved with basketball.

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Speaker 1: Mark great Stuff is always and as usual as we

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Speaker 1: look ahead to next Saturday, who knows what the NBA

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Speaker 1: news cycle storylines will bring, but it never it never

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Speaker 1: fails to deliver.

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Speaker 5: Hey, I'm sure we'll talk plenty of more Jimmy Butler,

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Speaker 5: Trader Emers next week's stay tuned.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, fair enough, because I think there's a real, real

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01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 1: dilemma there, and in terms of the Heat wanting to

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01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 1: move on, he wants to move on, but at what price?

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Speaker 1: Right at one point is to become a pyrrhic victory,

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Speaker 1: no doubt.

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Speaker 5: And the other wrinkle here is the Miami Heat. They're

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Speaker 5: not the top of the East, but they're also not

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01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 5: the bottom. They still have a recipe to stay in

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Speaker 5: that mix as either a play team or sure at

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Speaker 5: the bottom of the playoffs seats of the sixth seeds,

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Speaker 5: so they don't know how to tank.

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Speaker 1: For better and for worders, it heat culture is real.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a real thing. I'm with you, right,

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Speaker 1: Mark great Stuff.

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Speaker 5: Thanks pal, I appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: It is Mark Medina Medina magic every Saturday night, twelve

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Speaker 1: midnight on the Bernie Frattles Show. As you can see

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Speaker 1: clearly he has his finger on the pulse. He's our

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio NBA guru. You hear them all around

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Speaker 1: the network. Coming up, we go back to football. You

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01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 1: may or may not have noticed. The NSC North put

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Speaker 1: three teams in the playoffs and it ended badly. The

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01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 1: Vikings got clowned on by the Rams, the Lions got

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Speaker 1: embarrassed frankly by the Commandos, and the Green Bay Packers

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Speaker 1: fought but fell well short in their playoff game as well. Well.

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Speaker 1: Jordan Love returns, no question there. Jored Goff returns, no

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Speaker 1: question there, but a name that you heard about a lot,

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Speaker 1: and then you didn't, and then you did, and now

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Speaker 1: you're hearing again Sam Donald. The Vikings have a genuine

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Speaker 1: dilemma with Sam Donald. And now there's lots of questions

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Speaker 1: after their wild card loss. Just what do the Vikings do?

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what we think we know. Coming up,

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Speaker 1: I'm Bernie Fradda. We're come to your lion from the

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Speaker 1: All right, we are back on the Bernie Frattle Show.

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Speaker 1: three am Pacific, six am Eastern, just getting started. Lots

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Speaker 1: posted right after we get off the air. Well, you know,

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Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings were having one hell of a season,

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Speaker 1: the Cinderella season. There were win total in Vegas was

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Speaker 1: six and a half. They blew past that. At one

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Speaker 1: point they were very much on the short list to

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Speaker 1: have the number one overall seat in the NFC. And

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Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, what looked like a light

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Speaker 1: at the end of the tunnel became an oncoming train.

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Speaker 1: The calendar turns to twenty twenty five, and I don't

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01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 1: know what happened, but you know, like the Beatles yesterday song,

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01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 1: you know something see much further away. First, Minnesota relinquished

1239
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 1: the top seed in the NFC after getting you know,

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01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 1: the Lions rolled him like a stick horse in the

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01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 1: Sunday regular season finale, which seems like forever ago, but

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Speaker 1: then just its past Monday in the wildcard round, the

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01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:36,200
Speaker 1: Vikings were completely you know, pull acts by the Rams

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Speaker 1: in Arizona. It's d Jevo all over again. Minnesota scored

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01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 1: just nine points in each of the last two games,

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01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden put the spotlight, a

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Speaker 1: white hot spotlight on the performance is Sam Darnald, who

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Speaker 1: signed it one year, ten million dollar contract with the

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Speaker 1: Vikings in March. Sam, there's no shortage of Sam Donald. Naysayers,

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Speaker 1: you know, take a ticket, get a line, try to

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Speaker 1: push your way to the front. I always liked Sam Donald,

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01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 1: thought he was in a couple of bad situations. I

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01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 1: thought he could play. I didn't predict this for him

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Speaker 1: with respect to the outstanding season he had at least

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01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 1: during the twenty twenty four calendar, but now his future

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01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:22,919
Speaker 1: as the team's quarterback in Minnesota is very much being

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01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 1: called into question over that two game stretch against the

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Speaker 1: Rams and Lions. Donald was only forty three of eighty

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01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:35,959
Speaker 1: one through one touchdown, was sacked eleven times, repeatedly held

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Speaker 1: the ball, missed targets, seemed to channel some of his

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01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:45,840
Speaker 1: earlier days with Caroline and the Jets. But two games

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Speaker 1: is not a season make okay. But here's what's interesting.

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Speaker 1: Now we have part revisionist history, part reevaluation. Donald was

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Speaker 1: not expected to be the long term solution because the

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Speaker 1: Vikings drafted ja Aj McCarthy out of Michigan with a

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Speaker 1: number ten pick overall a month after they signed Donald.

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Speaker 1: But JJ McCarthy tore his meniscus during the preseason. Donald

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Speaker 1: goes on to have a career year. Now this is

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01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:20,720
Speaker 1: a nice problem to have, right, He finished top five

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01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:25,800
Speaker 1: in the NFL passing yards and touchdowns. And Kevin O'Connell, who,

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Speaker 1: for my money, the Viking said coach erstwhile offensive coordinator

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Speaker 1: of the Rams by Sean McVay side, helped them win

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Speaker 1: a Super Bowl set after that game Monday night, the

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Speaker 1: wildcard loss. Being the introspective smart guy that Kevin O'Connell

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Speaker 1: is said, quote, we have to consider Sam's body of

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Speaker 1: work when deciding on his future, and yeah you should,

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Speaker 1: because he hadn't been in high leverage games like that.

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Speaker 1: He played in a lot of football games, but not

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Speaker 1: like that. Maybe he builds from that. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: but here's your dilemma. You've got JJ McCarthy waiting in

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Speaker 1: the wings, and these are the options that the Vikings

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Speaker 1: now have with Sam Donald. As the Vikings are now

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Speaker 1: in their offseason, you can't rule out that Dave give

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Speaker 1: Sam Donald a long term deal. He is at least

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Speaker 1: a proven commodity if you can block out the last

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Speaker 1: two games. He's twenty seven years old. I think under

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Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell's toolch he does have room to grow. He's

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Speaker 1: at least a mid range starting quarterback based on what

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Speaker 1: he's proven in the twenty twenty fourth season, which means

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Speaker 1: what a mid range quarterback, four year deal one hundred

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Speaker 1: and sixty million. That would be the best long term

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Speaker 1: deal Sam Donald could hope for. If you did that,

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Speaker 1: do you dare you? Do you dare? Trade JJ McCarthy,

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Speaker 1: who could potentially command another first round pick in the

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Speaker 1: open market. Consider considering that this quarterback class I don't

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Speaker 1: think is very good, may not be bad. They may

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Speaker 1: prove me wrong. Cam Ward, Okay, I get it. I

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Speaker 1: like Shootoor Sanders. I don't love Shootdoor Sanders. I'd rather

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Speaker 1: have JJ mccarthur than either of those two guys. Do that,

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01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:20,080
Speaker 1: which you will talk amongst yourselves. But that's one option,

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01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:22,200
Speaker 1: you say, hell with it. We got to prove and

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01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:24,680
Speaker 1: commodity here do we really want to start over? Who

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01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:28,479
Speaker 1: won fourteen games? For crying out loud? Give Sam Donald

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01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:30,439
Speaker 1: a four year, one hundred and sixty million dollar range.

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01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:33,960
Speaker 1: Let's grow from there. We'll move on from McCarthy. Oh,

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01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:36,400
Speaker 1: by the way, we get back big time draft capital.

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Speaker 1: I believe. I believe it would bring back the first

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01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:45,280
Speaker 1: round pick. I do or if you are uncertain not,

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01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:48,880
Speaker 1: I mean unlike a dollar bill in the show Billions.

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01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 1: Who is not uncertain? Maybe you are uncertain about Sam Donald?

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01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:57,759
Speaker 1: You could franchise tagging. Then that would allow the Vikings

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01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 1: to test the waters year guaranteed deal of about forty

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01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:05,800
Speaker 1: one million dollars. That would be more than twice as

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Speaker 1: much then Donald has made in any NFL season. It's

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01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:13,880
Speaker 1: a good deal for him. I think then that gives

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01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:18,439
Speaker 1: the Vikings the flexibility and the option of training Sam

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01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:23,080
Speaker 1: Donald if they, if they should so desire. But if

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01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:27,280
Speaker 1: they chose to keep him, well, now you know the

1319
01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:30,360
Speaker 1: team is sort of in a state of limbo because

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01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:32,840
Speaker 1: you've got him and McCarthy and you know you've only

1321
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:36,920
Speaker 1: got Donald for one year, and what do you do? Right,

1322
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Speaker 1: what do you do? And in the quarterbacks the most

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Speaker 1: important position in sports, it's the thinnest position in all

1324
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:49,000
Speaker 1: of sports, so many fail or do you dare let

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01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:54,759
Speaker 1: Sam Donald just simply walk? In theory? In theory, now

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01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:59,240
Speaker 1: Minnesota could let Sam Donald go and just simply hand

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01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:02,599
Speaker 1: the keys to j McCarthy, Which is I think if

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01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 1: people were looking into a crystal ball last March, they

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01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:12,200
Speaker 1: speculated that that's what was going to happen, that Donald

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Speaker 1: would merely be a placeholder for JJ McCarthy. And fast

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01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:23,439
Speaker 1: forward to February of twenty twenty five, and McCarthy's your

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01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 1: guy and Donald moves on. But then you know, fate intervened,

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01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 1: McCarthy got hurt, and Donald went on to have a

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Speaker 1: huge season, all right, And the thing you have to

1335
01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 1: ask yourself too, right, it's one thing to have potential

1336
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:39,360
Speaker 1: and be projectable. It's another thing to have done it.

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01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:45,519
Speaker 1: Don't disavow jjit Sam Donald did this year. He had

1338
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:48,679
Speaker 1: a damn good year. Okay. And you have another angle

1339
01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:52,160
Speaker 1: about JJ McCarthy that you also can't shove under the rug.

1340
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:55,719
Speaker 1: He's got to come back from a fairly serious knee injury,

1341
01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:59,800
Speaker 1: all right. And the other thing is, do you know

1342
01:11:59,920 --> 01:12:03,120
Speaker 1: for a fact that JJ McCarthy is ready to be

1343
01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 1: handed the keys of the car just because he looked

1344
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:08,320
Speaker 1: good in one preseason game. I know he didn't put

1345
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:10,400
Speaker 1: up gaudy numbers at Michigan, but he was an ass

1346
01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:13,640
Speaker 1: toute he didn't need to. That doesn't mean he's not capable.

1347
01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:16,640
Speaker 1: You heard me in my opening commentary about playing the

1348
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:19,400
Speaker 1: position with your eyes. McCarthy's good enough to do that.

1349
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 1: He's athletic enough to do that. And whenever the situation

1350
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:24,240
Speaker 1: demanded that he come up with a clutch throw and

1351
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:26,800
Speaker 1: thread the needle, he did it more than once. So

1352
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:30,280
Speaker 1: he's got my attention. JJ McCarthy very much has my attention,

1353
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:32,400
Speaker 1: But I don't know if he's ready to take over.

1354
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:35,120
Speaker 1: And I don't know how you come back. He made

1355
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:37,639
Speaker 1: very well come back from that serious kne injury without

1356
01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:41,880
Speaker 1: a hitch or not. You don't, you don't know, all right,

1357
01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:49,400
Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson refused to weigh in. He's clearly the team's

1358
01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:53,839
Speaker 1: biggest star. He's signed the largest contract of any wide receiver,

1359
01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:58,439
Speaker 1: four years, one hundred and forty million, and he went

1360
01:12:58,479 --> 01:13:00,120
Speaker 1: on to say, it's not my job to say is

1361
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:02,080
Speaker 1: going to be the quarterback? Or who do I want

1362
01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:08,720
Speaker 1: to be the quarterback? Not exactly a ringing endorsement, but

1363
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:10,240
Speaker 1: maybe he just wants to stay out of it. I

1364
01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:14,760
Speaker 1: don't blame the dude, all right. Coming up, one of

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01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:18,000
Speaker 1: the hottest names in the coaching carousel now that certainly

1366
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:24,320
Speaker 1: Mike Grabel has gone, is the inimitable Ben Johnson. Well,

1367
01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:29,040
Speaker 1: no one saw this coming. I sure as hell didn't.

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01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:32,759
Speaker 1: Not that the Commandos don't very much deserve their victory

1369
01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:35,400
Speaker 1: and what took place at Ford Fields Saturday night. But

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01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:38,640
Speaker 1: now Ben Johnson is a free man. What does the

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01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:43,040
Speaker 1: Ben Johnson timeline look like? You may get a kick

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01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:46,120
Speaker 1: out of this because it all started back on January sixth,

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01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:48,840
Speaker 1: and now we're back, we're up to January nineteenth, and

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01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:53,840
Speaker 1: I got to tell you, my god, it's a cockamami system.

1375
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 1: But I don't know how the hell lets you do it.

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01:13:55,840 --> 01:14:00,479
Speaker 1: The best candidates are always working in January because they've

1377
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 1: had success and they're in the playoffs. I mean, other

1378
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:05,400
Speaker 1: than you know, Mike Variable, and I'm gonna get to

1379
01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:08,240
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll, litter and hell or even John Gruon's name

1380
01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:10,600
Speaker 1: is even in the mix. But you know, it's the

1381
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:13,920
Speaker 1: Ben Johnson's, it's the Aaron Glenn's, it's the Brian Floyd.

1382
01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:16,760
Speaker 1: These guys are working, they made the playoffs. But the

1383
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 1: Ben Johnson timeline is intriguing to me because it's been

1384
01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:25,879
Speaker 1: sort of banned about, you know, not only the hottest candidate,

1385
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:31,000
Speaker 1: which they've been saying from here to Mars for various reasons.

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01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:34,400
Speaker 1: And Tom Brady appears to want him badly. Apparently he

1387
01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 1: could have had his pick of three or four jobs,

1388
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:38,320
Speaker 1: and he could have last year, and he's picky. I

1389
01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:40,479
Speaker 1: think Ben Shotson on to turn the tables and stay

1390
01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:44,439
Speaker 1: in Detroit. He likes it there, man, he likes it there.

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Speaker 1: We'll dive into that coming up. I'm Bernie Frattle. We're

1392
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Speaker 1: come to line from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 1: Tarreck dot Com Studios. Keep it locked. You're listening to

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Speaker 1: the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio. All right,

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Speaker 1: back at the Bernie Fraddle Show, Fox Sports Radio. Come

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Speaker 1: to line from Tara at dot com Studios here, Las Vegas. Well,

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01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:05,800
Speaker 1: Ben Johnson is now a free man. What do I

1398
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 1: mean by that? He can interview to his heart's delight.

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01:15:09,640 --> 01:15:13,559
Speaker 1: So far, he's had virtual interviews with the Raiders, the

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01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:19,839
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars, and the Bears. I believe he previously interviewed

1401
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:21,680
Speaker 1: with the New England Patriots, but that job went to

1402
01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:26,599
Speaker 1: Mike Vrabel and Johnson is now officially in Phase one,

1403
01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 1: basically focusing on the task at hand because the Lions

1404
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:38,479
Speaker 1: are done. It's funny though, because we didn't I didn't

1405
01:15:38,479 --> 01:15:41,880
Speaker 1: see this coming, and this whole thing started January sixth,

1406
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:44,120
Speaker 1: That was the day after the Lions smoked the Vikings.

1407
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:48,240
Speaker 1: His official candidacy began with the Bears, Patriots, Jaguars. They

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01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:52,760
Speaker 1: already quested interviews and Albert Bear Sports Illustrated reported that

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01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:55,640
Speaker 1: Johnson would not take an interview unless he intends to

1410
01:15:55,680 --> 01:16:02,080
Speaker 1: pursue the job. So, you know, starting January ninth, he

1411
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:05,120
Speaker 1: had a window of three days to do his you know,

1412
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:09,959
Speaker 1: you know, his first virtual interviews, which lines gain permission

1413
01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:13,320
Speaker 1: to do, and then you know the lines that weren't

1414
01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:15,759
Speaker 1: in the wildcard round because they were the number one seed.

1415
01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:21,360
Speaker 1: But it gets this is such a convoluted, tedious process.

1416
01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:24,360
Speaker 1: These interviews are three to five hours. I know they

1417
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:29,080
Speaker 1: start virtual and then the future interviews in person. They're

1418
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:34,360
Speaker 1: very involved. You start talking philosophy. You know your decision

1419
01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:40,280
Speaker 1: making process, your technical discussions, quarterback evaluations, player and roster evaluations.

1420
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:45,160
Speaker 1: You know you're planning. You have to sell a team

1421
01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:48,679
Speaker 1: on how you're going to put together as staff. Might

1422
01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:52,040
Speaker 1: you keep holdovers on the current staff on the payroll? Right?

1423
01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:56,640
Speaker 1: And I think you have to be prepared to evaluate

1424
01:16:56,680 --> 01:17:01,519
Speaker 1: scouting reports, understand the cap situation the team has, and

1425
01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:05,559
Speaker 1: then they're very much feeling you out and picturing and

1426
01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:09,200
Speaker 1: projecting when you walk into the building. You have that

1427
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:11,920
Speaker 1: ability to command the room. Right, If you can't command

1428
01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:14,400
Speaker 1: the room in the interview, you're not going to command

1429
01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:17,080
Speaker 1: the room when you're sitting in front of fifty three guys.

1430
01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:22,559
Speaker 1: So these are very you know, convoluted situations. And while

1431
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:25,519
Speaker 1: Ben Johnson was trying to navigate what he was going

1432
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:29,720
Speaker 1: to do against the commandos and Sir Sure as I

1433
01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:33,080
Speaker 1: would like to have that gadget play Jamison and Williams

1434
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:38,000
Speaker 1: through terrible pass. So you're a playoff bound coach and

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01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:41,160
Speaker 1: you prepare for these interviews during your off hours, but

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01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:43,120
Speaker 1: you do it you don't want to interfere with your

1437
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:47,240
Speaker 1: current role. Well, we already knew Detroit's opponent. On the fourteenth.

1438
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:52,559
Speaker 1: Today's January nineteenth, the Lions hosted the lowest seeded NFC

1439
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:57,879
Speaker 1: team and lost. So now Ben Johnson can go interview

1440
01:17:57,960 --> 01:18:00,080
Speaker 1: to his heart's to light. And had the you know,

1441
01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:03,639
Speaker 1: played next week, there would have been some limitations. Had

1442
01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:05,160
Speaker 1: they made it to the super Bowl, there would have

1443
01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:09,880
Speaker 1: been limitations. Although you can there are stipulations where even

1444
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:11,920
Speaker 1: if you're in the super Bowl, you can send a

1445
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:15,920
Speaker 1: new contract. But listen, one of Ben Johnson's things his

1446
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:20,880
Speaker 1: organizational alignment with the coach in GM, and he wants

1447
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:24,080
Speaker 1: recognition from what's gone wrong from the teams. This appears

1448
01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:26,559
Speaker 1: to be what Tom Brady may be allowing him to have.

1449
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:29,360
Speaker 1: So you're going to bring in a guy who's never coached.

1450
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:31,680
Speaker 1: He's gonna have to stay in the new GM. I

1451
01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:34,080
Speaker 1: don't know, man, but it's good to be Ben Johnson.

1452
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:36,720
Speaker 1: We'll see where this thing ends up, because he sure

1453
01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:40,560
Speaker 1: earned the right to do this. But now all of

1454
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:44,080
Speaker 1: a sudden reality sits in and the rubber hits the road,

1455
01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:47,280
Speaker 1: and it ain't so easy. Come it up. Who should

1456
01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:51,040
Speaker 1: replace Mike McCarthy in Dallas? There's actually ten candidates. Keep

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Speaker 1: it locked. Bernie Fraddle Show, Fox Sports Radio. Well that's right,

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Speaker 1: you heard the man. Bernie Fradle Show keeps rolling right along.

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Speaker 1: My name is Bernie Fraderwick. Come to life from the

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Speaker 1: Tarack dot com studios here in Las Vegas, Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 1: or something like that, you all know by now that

1467
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Speaker 1: the Mike McCarthy era is over in Dallas, not up

1468
01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:37,920
Speaker 1: in here. And I got to tell you the Dallas

1469
01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:43,760
Speaker 1: fandom faithful folks wasted no time in weighing in. No

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Speaker 1: less than ninety four percent of respondence to a survey

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Speaker 1: done by The Athletic said there is the franchise's lost.

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01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:56,600
Speaker 1: There's no reason for hope. They're just not sure what

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01:19:56,680 --> 01:20:00,360
Speaker 1: to think anymore. Only six percent without the cop Boys

1474
01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:03,760
Speaker 1: were making the right decision. Now, you know how I

1475
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:06,280
Speaker 1: feel about Mike McCarthy. I got no b for them.

1476
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:09,479
Speaker 1: I called him Barney Rubble because in the high leverage

1477
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:11,680
Speaker 1: situations in the playoffs, when it mattered most and the

1478
01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:14,559
Speaker 1: heat was hot and it's hard to breathe. And you

1479
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:19,559
Speaker 1: see other highly capable coaches that seem to navigate through

1480
01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:25,360
Speaker 1: situational football when when the games matter do much better. McCarthy,

1481
01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:27,800
Speaker 1: you know, forever looked like the guy wandering them all

1482
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:30,240
Speaker 1: parking lot, couldn't figure out where the hell he parked

1483
01:20:30,280 --> 01:20:33,960
Speaker 1: his car. Yes, good regular season coach, Yes, good with players,

1484
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:37,759
Speaker 1: good with people. Jerry desperately wants to win a Super Bowl,

1485
01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:39,439
Speaker 1: or maybe he doesn't anymore. I don't know. I don't

1486
01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:41,920
Speaker 1: really know what he wants anymore. I'm not a Jerry

1487
01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:45,160
Speaker 1: Jones basher. You can do that yourself. But at the

1488
01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:50,160
Speaker 1: same time, all right, you have to question whether or not,

1489
01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:54,600
Speaker 1: uh there's hope in Dallas anymore for to be to

1490
01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:59,240
Speaker 1: be legitimate contender, because no, no, you know, no sooner

1491
01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:02,840
Speaker 1: did Mike McCarthy hit the road. And it's my understanding

1492
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:05,800
Speaker 1: that Jerry got caught with his pants down a little

1493
01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:07,640
Speaker 1: bit here. He thought he was gonna be able to

1494
01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:11,559
Speaker 1: retain McCarthy, and whatever he was offered, it wasn't enough

1495
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:14,759
Speaker 1: for McCarthy. And I don't think McCarthy was keen about

1496
01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:17,400
Speaker 1: having Jason Whitten on staff. Whatever the case may be,

1497
01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:22,080
Speaker 1: the Twains shall not meet. McCarthy moved on, and I

1498
01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:26,840
Speaker 1: think Jerry, honestly, I really think Jerry thought that he

1499
01:21:26,920 --> 01:21:29,360
Speaker 1: was holding the cards here, that if you wanted McCarthy back,

1500
01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:31,519
Speaker 1: he was going to get him. Well, that didn't happen.

1501
01:21:32,160 --> 01:21:35,439
Speaker 1: So what did you do? He pivots to here comes

1502
01:21:35,479 --> 01:21:39,759
Speaker 1: the group think echo chamber, But this story has legs. Okay,

1503
01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:46,720
Speaker 1: And in the survey among Dallas readers asking whether or

1504
01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:52,200
Speaker 1: not Dion Okay, you moved on from McCarthy, Do you

1505
01:21:52,360 --> 01:22:01,240
Speaker 1: move on to Dion Sanders huh it because it's good

1506
01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:04,360
Speaker 1: for our business. I love it in a big way.

1507
01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:08,439
Speaker 1: I love Dion. I would love to see what this

1508
01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:12,439
Speaker 1: looks like, fully believing that it would be an abject

1509
01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:16,320
Speaker 1: failure because Dean won't have any control. It's not like

1510
01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:18,360
Speaker 1: Colorado where he could bring in players, and he could

1511
01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:21,040
Speaker 1: bring in Travis Hutter and bring in his son through

1512
01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:24,599
Speaker 1: you know, the nil and transfer portal. You can literally

1513
01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:27,080
Speaker 1: remake your roster. Demom, we can't do that in the NFL.

1514
01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:33,080
Speaker 1: And when Dion's teams played opponents who had lesser athletes,

1515
01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:36,400
Speaker 1: Colorado took care of business when he did, and Colorado

1516
01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:38,160
Speaker 1: didn't look so good. Well, in the NFL, they're all

1517
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:41,439
Speaker 1: about the same. You give me a fifty three man roster,

1518
01:22:41,479 --> 01:22:44,000
Speaker 1: and I will guarantee you fifty to fifty three of

1519
01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:47,200
Speaker 1: those two teams are this. I'm holding my fingers one

1520
01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:50,360
Speaker 1: centimeter apart. And then the better teams have two or

1521
01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:56,400
Speaker 1: three transcending players and that's it. So when asked in

1522
01:22:56,479 --> 01:23:01,360
Speaker 1: a survey amongst Cowboy fans whether Dallas'd seriously consider making

1523
01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:04,519
Speaker 1: Dion Sanders their next head coach, seventy eight percent of

1524
01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:10,360
Speaker 1: the respondent said no, No, twenty two percent Yeah, what

1525
01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:14,120
Speaker 1: the hell? Bringing on the circus right, They're thought, Well,

1526
01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:17,080
Speaker 1: if anybody can handle the spotlight and stand up to

1527
01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:22,439
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones, it's the ever confident, world class athlete, media

1528
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:26,680
Speaker 1: savvy coach Prime. Tell me you wouldn't want to see that.

1529
01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:31,280
Speaker 1: One reader said, quote, he can't argue with results. People

1530
01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:34,040
Speaker 1: were ready to laugh at him struggling at Colorado. Instead,

1531
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:37,800
Speaker 1: look what he did. That's fair. They won one game

1532
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:40,439
Speaker 1: two years ago and he made them a national item.

1533
01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:44,479
Speaker 1: Good on Dion. Another reader said, say what you want,

1534
01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:47,439
Speaker 1: but Dion backed up his talk just about everywhere he's gone.

1535
01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:51,280
Speaker 1: I completely agree with that. As a player, no two

1536
01:23:51,320 --> 01:23:54,640
Speaker 1: ways about it. Hell, even back in what was it

1537
01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:57,560
Speaker 1: eighty nine when he was drafted he didn't want to

1538
01:23:57,600 --> 01:24:00,479
Speaker 1: go to the Lions. He got his wish up getting

1539
01:24:00,520 --> 01:24:04,600
Speaker 1: drafted by Atlanta. Dion was cool. Then he said, you know,

1540
01:24:05,080 --> 01:24:06,920
Speaker 1: it's a good thing the Lions didn't draft me, that

1541
01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:08,240
Speaker 1: it had to put me on lay a way to

1542
01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:12,080
Speaker 1: afford me. Dion has always backed it up. But all

1543
01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:14,920
Speaker 1: of a sudden, when you're gracing an NFL sideline and

1544
01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:18,519
Speaker 1: dealing with grown men who make millions of dollars, you're

1545
01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:22,120
Speaker 1: just simply not going to have that same fatherly influence

1546
01:24:22,160 --> 01:24:27,679
Speaker 1: that you had on college players. It's just not again

1547
01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:31,400
Speaker 1: acknowledging the success he had a Colorado. The season that

1548
01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:34,280
Speaker 1: you know, before Sanders got there, they were one and

1549
01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:38,320
Speaker 1: eleven worst team in college football. Worse program in college football, maybe,

1550
01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:41,599
Speaker 1: but he brought along Travis Hunter, who won the Heisman.

1551
01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:44,200
Speaker 1: He brought along his son Shudor. They were nine to

1552
01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:48,320
Speaker 1: four and twenty twenty four, and they were impressive, relatively speaking.

1553
01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:52,400
Speaker 1: Most of the readers had fell in the seventy eight percent. Says,

1554
01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:56,440
Speaker 1: come on, please be serious. You cannot have this conversation

1555
01:24:56,520 --> 01:25:02,120
Speaker 1: without referencing Dion Sanders laughing experience. He said, five years

1556
01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:06,400
Speaker 1: as a college head coach, right, three in Colorado, two

1557
01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:10,200
Speaker 1: at in HBCU, schooled none of the pros. And there

1558
01:25:10,240 --> 01:25:12,920
Speaker 1: isn't gonna be any hoopla bringing the shoot or centers

1559
01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:15,680
Speaker 1: over there. Locked into Dak Prescott, you move on from him,

1560
01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:19,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna ta one hundred million dollar cap head. There

1561
01:25:19,240 --> 01:25:22,680
Speaker 1: isn't gonna be There's gonna be a packaged deal. So

1562
01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:27,879
Speaker 1: the reality of it is why you know, the Chicago

1563
01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:30,400
Speaker 1: Bears are interviewing everybody except they had Gibber and maybe

1564
01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:32,559
Speaker 1: they're even going to interview him. I mean, I'm hearing

1565
01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:35,639
Speaker 1: they're even gonna interview Eddie George now, and I love

1566
01:25:35,640 --> 01:25:39,920
Speaker 1: Adie George and he's had a good success at Tennessee State,

1567
01:25:40,439 --> 01:25:43,639
Speaker 1: But what are we doing I mean in the National

1568
01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:47,439
Speaker 1: Football League, if you're a dumpster fire like the Bears,

1569
01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:52,160
Speaker 1: even though you've got draft capital and you've got cap

1570
01:25:52,240 --> 01:25:54,840
Speaker 1: room and all kinds of things. I'm telling you, man,

1571
01:25:54,920 --> 01:25:57,880
Speaker 1: I saw this in Detroit, Honest to god. I cover

1572
01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:00,200
Speaker 1: the team for ten years in an official capacity from

1573
01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:02,720
Speaker 1: ninety eight to eight. When I first got there, it

1574
01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:06,439
Speaker 1: was Wayne Fonce, and you know, he'd laughed, clown laughed.

1575
01:26:06,439 --> 01:26:08,400
Speaker 1: But the Lions made the playoffs what six times in

1576
01:26:08,439 --> 01:26:10,760
Speaker 1: the nineties. They can never get over the hump though

1577
01:26:11,200 --> 01:26:13,320
Speaker 1: Wayne Fonce got booted out of there. They brought in

1578
01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:16,679
Speaker 1: Bobby Ross, one of my favorites. Bobby'd won it in Maryland,

1579
01:26:16,720 --> 01:26:19,639
Speaker 1: He'd won at Georgia Tech, got the San Diego Chargers

1580
01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:22,840
Speaker 1: to their only Super Bowl nineteen ninety five. I love

1581
01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:25,679
Speaker 1: the dude. He hated Detroit and hated what was going

1582
01:26:25,720 --> 01:26:28,360
Speaker 1: on there. He quit when they were five and four.

1583
01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:31,720
Speaker 1: They bring in Gary Moeller as an interim, who might

1584
01:26:31,800 --> 01:26:34,599
Speaker 1: very well have done a good job, but they lost

1585
01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:37,519
Speaker 1: that game to the Bears, and everybody cleaned house. And

1586
01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:40,439
Speaker 1: they brought into legendary Matt Millen, who was fifty games

1587
01:26:40,520 --> 01:26:42,600
Speaker 1: under five hundred. He proceeds to hire Marty morning With

1588
01:26:42,680 --> 01:26:45,560
Speaker 1: because Bill Walsh recommended him. You know what happened with

1589
01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:49,960
Speaker 1: Marty Morningway. He didn't last They brought in Steve Merriucci.

1590
01:26:51,320 --> 01:26:54,679
Speaker 1: I love Mooch. Him and Millan didn't get along. Mooch

1591
01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:58,599
Speaker 1: got fired Thanksgiving Day two thousand and five after they

1592
01:26:58,640 --> 01:27:02,840
Speaker 1: lost Uh, Rob park Er and I'm Stephen A. Smith

1593
01:27:02,920 --> 01:27:05,120
Speaker 1: name drop. We're having dinner at Fishbones that night. Rob

1594
01:27:05,160 --> 01:27:08,040
Speaker 1: broke the news. He was right, and Dick Churon became

1595
01:27:08,080 --> 01:27:10,240
Speaker 1: the interim and I liked Dickcharon. I actually wanted to

1596
01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:15,559
Speaker 1: him get a shot. And well what happened next to

1597
01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:19,040
Speaker 1: the My partner Mark Wilson said he can't sell that

1598
01:27:19,080 --> 01:27:22,200
Speaker 1: press conference. You got to make us splash, So sure

1599
01:27:22,200 --> 01:27:24,679
Speaker 1: as hell, Matt Millan made one and he hired Rob

1600
01:27:24,760 --> 01:27:29,160
Speaker 1: Marinelli last year. I could with the team they were

1601
01:27:29,160 --> 01:27:32,479
Speaker 1: on in sixteen. So he went from Wayne Fonce to

1602
01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:37,120
Speaker 1: Bobby Ross to Gary Moehler to Marty morning Wegg to

1603
01:27:37,240 --> 01:27:40,960
Speaker 1: Dick Guron interim check that Mardy morning Wag to Steve

1604
01:27:40,960 --> 01:27:45,720
Speaker 1: Marriucci to Dick Youeron interim to Rod Marrile, Maryonelli. That's

1605
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:49,720
Speaker 1: six coaches in ten years. This ain't so easy, is it,

1606
01:27:50,520 --> 01:27:52,479
Speaker 1: which is why you think the Conboys might take this

1607
01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:55,080
Speaker 1: a little more serious. You don't have to go eighte

1608
01:27:55,280 --> 01:27:59,559
Speaker 1: like the Bears are and interview everybody from Adams Abada Zanzibar.

1609
01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:03,400
Speaker 1: But there are three guys they really should be talking to. Well,

1610
01:28:03,400 --> 01:28:06,479
Speaker 1: they were already talking to Kellen Moore. What's the old saying,

1611
01:28:06,479 --> 01:28:10,559
Speaker 1: you can't go home. Kellen Moore was once very highly

1612
01:28:10,600 --> 01:28:13,920
Speaker 1: thought of in Dallas. I thought he was going to

1613
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:18,880
Speaker 1: be the coaching waiting there. His first year calling plays

1614
01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:22,320
Speaker 1: for Dak Prescott led to the best success Dak Prescott

1615
01:28:22,320 --> 01:28:25,200
Speaker 1: has ever had, and all of a sudden, Kellen Moore

1616
01:28:25,280 --> 01:28:28,599
Speaker 1: was drawing favorable comparisons to Sean McVay. Now I'm keep

1617
01:28:28,600 --> 01:28:30,240
Speaker 1: in mind, Kellen Moore was a hell of a quarterback

1618
01:28:30,240 --> 01:28:33,439
Speaker 1: at Boise State when they had great teams. Here's how

1619
01:28:33,439 --> 01:28:35,599
Speaker 1: great they are. Alabama didn't want to play him. That's

1620
01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:38,759
Speaker 1: a fact. You go to the blue field, Chris Peterson.

1621
01:28:38,840 --> 01:28:41,360
Speaker 1: Those were good teams with the NFL players, Kellen Moore

1622
01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:43,000
Speaker 1: had a little bit more in a cup of coffee

1623
01:28:43,240 --> 01:28:45,439
Speaker 1: as a left handed quarterback in the National Football League.

1624
01:28:45,439 --> 01:28:48,240
Speaker 1: But he's not Sean McVay because after that he was

1625
01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:52,080
Speaker 1: very inconsistent, and all of a sudden something happened where

1626
01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:57,280
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore had a mutual split from Mike McCarthy and

1627
01:28:57,520 --> 01:29:00,439
Speaker 1: he ended up with the Chargers the next season more

1628
01:29:01,160 --> 01:29:05,559
Speaker 1: and it didn't go well at all. But now Kellen

1629
01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:09,160
Speaker 1: Morris running the offense for the NFC team, I believe,

1630
01:29:09,200 --> 01:29:11,280
Speaker 1: and I believed it before Saturday Night, that would end

1631
01:29:11,360 --> 01:29:13,439
Speaker 1: up in the Super Bowl. That's the Philadelphia Eagles. They're

1632
01:29:13,479 --> 01:29:17,200
Speaker 1: having a great year. Sakwon Barkley felt just short of

1633
01:29:17,200 --> 01:29:21,080
Speaker 1: breaking Eric Dickinson's record. And it's my understanding that Jalen

1634
01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:22,720
Speaker 1: Hurts the guy I've been a fan of ever since

1635
01:29:22,720 --> 01:29:26,160
Speaker 1: he was at Alabama and Oklahoma. Loved the guy. He's

1636
01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:29,000
Speaker 1: had his ups and downs, though Moore has been a

1637
01:29:29,000 --> 01:29:32,360
Speaker 1: great influence, a quarterback whisper, kind of a calming presence

1638
01:29:32,360 --> 01:29:35,160
Speaker 1: for Jalen Hurts. These things matter, so all of a sudden,

1639
01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:37,080
Speaker 1: now Kellen Moore is right back in the thick of

1640
01:29:37,120 --> 01:29:41,360
Speaker 1: the coaching cycle. He's gotten multiple interview requests, and of

1641
01:29:41,400 --> 01:29:43,080
Speaker 1: course that's going to depend on how far the Eagles

1642
01:29:43,160 --> 01:29:46,639
Speaker 1: go in the playoffs, which they're already going pretty far.

1643
01:29:47,200 --> 01:29:50,040
Speaker 1: See if they beat the Rams tomorrow, Saturday, later today,

1644
01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:55,080
Speaker 1: excuse me. And I think it's perceived that Kellen Moore

1645
01:29:59,120 --> 01:30:03,679
Speaker 1: has grown since his departure from the Dallas Cowboys. Another

1646
01:30:03,760 --> 01:30:06,600
Speaker 1: selling point if you can plug Kellen Moore away from Philadelphia,

1647
01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:11,960
Speaker 1: who seemed to be on the verge of going in

1648
01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:15,400
Speaker 1: the river before Kellen Moore arrived about a year ago.

1649
01:30:17,600 --> 01:30:19,680
Speaker 1: You know, one time Kellen Moore was seen as a

1650
01:30:19,680 --> 01:30:23,800
Speaker 1: prodigal son for Jerry Jones. I understand he if I

1651
01:30:23,840 --> 01:30:25,519
Speaker 1: had a gun to my head. I think he's going

1652
01:30:25,560 --> 01:30:28,519
Speaker 1: to be the next Cowboys coach. I do, which had

1653
01:30:28,520 --> 01:30:31,320
Speaker 1: also forced the Eagles to tire their fourth offensive coordinator

1654
01:30:31,320 --> 01:30:32,880
Speaker 1: in as many years. But you don't hear as much

1655
01:30:32,920 --> 01:30:36,120
Speaker 1: about that. By the way, the Cowboys fans, as part

1656
01:30:36,120 --> 01:30:40,040
Speaker 1: of the survey, had Kellen Moore at the top of

1657
01:30:40,040 --> 01:30:42,800
Speaker 1: their list. Second on their list was Ben Johnson. I

1658
01:30:42,920 --> 01:30:45,880
Speaker 1: know of no situation where Ben Johnson and the Cowboys

1659
01:30:45,920 --> 01:30:48,320
Speaker 1: are going to even talk. And I don't think Ben

1660
01:30:48,400 --> 01:30:51,000
Speaker 1: Johnson would give a flying horses petwot about going to

1661
01:30:51,040 --> 01:30:55,400
Speaker 1: Dallas because he's got real concerns about the linkage and

1662
01:30:55,439 --> 01:30:57,880
Speaker 1: the connection and the kindred spirit you'd have with the

1663
01:30:57,920 --> 01:31:04,120
Speaker 1: front office. So there's Kellen Moore. Another guy I think

1664
01:31:04,160 --> 01:31:08,479
Speaker 1: that they should be talking to or inviting is Cliff Kingsbury. Again, laugh,

1665
01:31:08,520 --> 01:31:12,240
Speaker 1: clown laugh. You sit back and watch the Commanders, who

1666
01:31:12,240 --> 01:31:17,040
Speaker 1: were led by Dan Quinn, former coach. Who's with the Cowboys?

1667
01:31:17,640 --> 01:31:20,720
Speaker 1: They're going bananas. They beat the Buccaneers Sunday night, first

1668
01:31:20,760 --> 01:31:23,920
Speaker 1: playoff win in nineteen years. Now, they beat the Lions

1669
01:31:23,960 --> 01:31:26,479
Speaker 1: in fine fashion. And who's in the center of it.

1670
01:31:26,600 --> 01:31:28,400
Speaker 1: Jane Daniels. And who's in the center of that their

1671
01:31:28,400 --> 01:31:33,839
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. Cliff Kingsbury is the architect of Washington's offense.

1672
01:31:34,240 --> 01:31:37,120
Speaker 1: By the way, Cliff Kingsbury is also a Texas native,

1673
01:31:37,880 --> 01:31:40,679
Speaker 1: played at Texas Tech. He had head coaching experience both

1674
01:31:40,720 --> 01:31:44,799
Speaker 1: college and NFL, obviously having a lot of success in Dallas.

1675
01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:47,800
Speaker 1: Whether you like Kingsbury or not, he checks a lot

1676
01:31:47,840 --> 01:31:50,519
Speaker 1: of boxes. I know he's got a lot of questions too.

1677
01:31:51,120 --> 01:31:55,400
Speaker 1: The air raid offense never had good defenses at Texas Tech,

1678
01:31:55,439 --> 01:31:59,000
Speaker 1: and his offenses with Arizona never fully clicked in place.

1679
01:31:59,000 --> 01:32:01,799
Speaker 1: They would fall off towards the end of the season. Okay,

1680
01:32:02,040 --> 01:32:05,439
Speaker 1: every coach, he's going to have questions. But that's why

1681
01:32:05,479 --> 01:32:08,160
Speaker 1: you interview to find him out they interviewed these things

1682
01:32:08,400 --> 01:32:12,679
Speaker 1: to find out. Don't you know, I'm gonna mention another

1683
01:32:12,760 --> 01:32:15,160
Speaker 1: name now, and this guy needs to get a lot

1684
01:32:15,200 --> 01:32:18,800
Speaker 1: more respect than he's getting. And I'm talking about Pete

1685
01:32:18,880 --> 01:32:22,600
Speaker 1: Carroll now. A month ago it would have seemed laughable,

1686
01:32:23,240 --> 01:32:25,920
Speaker 1: but Pete Carroll has clearly become a key name in

1687
01:32:25,920 --> 01:32:30,160
Speaker 1: the coaching cycle. The Seahawks pushed Carol out the door.

1688
01:32:30,960 --> 01:32:34,240
Speaker 1: Carol wants back in the NFL. It's my understanding. He's

1689
01:32:34,280 --> 01:32:36,479
Speaker 1: talked to both the Bears and the Raiders, and both

1690
01:32:36,520 --> 01:32:39,160
Speaker 1: of them would be wise to bring in a Pete Carroll.

1691
01:32:39,560 --> 01:32:42,000
Speaker 1: He's been there, done that. His history is as good

1692
01:32:42,040 --> 01:32:45,920
Speaker 1: as it gets. Won a national championship at USC takes

1693
01:32:45,960 --> 01:32:49,639
Speaker 1: the Seahawks job, turns him into a mini dynasty. Seattle

1694
01:32:49,680 --> 01:32:53,200
Speaker 1: went to the Super Bowl and consecutive seasons he won one. Yes,

1695
01:32:53,280 --> 01:32:55,160
Speaker 1: they had to lead you to boom defense. That's because

1696
01:32:55,479 --> 01:32:58,799
Speaker 1: Caroll knows a thing or two about defense, and nobody had.

1697
01:32:59,120 --> 01:33:01,880
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson has ever done as well under anybody as

1698
01:33:01,880 --> 01:33:06,559
Speaker 1: he did under Pete Carroll. Pete Carroll's a culture builder,

1699
01:33:07,840 --> 01:33:14,080
Speaker 1: positivity energy, He turns around cultures. His enthusiasm, frankly is

1700
01:33:14,120 --> 01:33:20,400
Speaker 1: infectious and he does have a defensive mind. And when

1701
01:33:20,439 --> 01:33:23,920
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll implements something, his trends over, you know, sort

1702
01:33:23,960 --> 01:33:27,080
Speaker 1: of find their way of permeating throughout the NFL. And

1703
01:33:27,200 --> 01:33:30,760
Speaker 1: what's interesting is Carol also has a little history with

1704
01:33:30,880 --> 01:33:33,760
Speaker 1: the last two Cowboys coaches to win a ring, one

1705
01:33:33,760 --> 01:33:37,000
Speaker 1: of just three coaches to win the Super Bowl International Championship.

1706
01:33:37,360 --> 01:33:40,519
Speaker 1: I get it. When the season starts next year, Carol

1707
01:33:40,520 --> 01:33:44,400
Speaker 1: will turn seventy four. Is that a problem for you?

1708
01:33:44,640 --> 01:33:46,679
Speaker 1: It's only a problem if you can't do the damn job.

1709
01:33:47,680 --> 01:33:50,439
Speaker 1: He can do the job. The question is will he

1710
01:33:50,560 --> 01:33:54,240
Speaker 1: be taken seriously? Now we can throw Joe Brady in there.

1711
01:33:54,439 --> 01:33:58,280
Speaker 1: Joe Brady was Ben Johnson. Before Ben Johnson, He's the

1712
01:33:58,320 --> 01:34:01,320
Speaker 1: Bills offensive coordinator. He gained a lot of fame for

1713
01:34:01,400 --> 01:34:05,599
Speaker 1: helping lead that elite LSU offense that put Joe Burrow

1714
01:34:05,640 --> 01:34:09,559
Speaker 1: into the stratosphere. That got him the Panthers offensive coidinator

1715
01:34:09,640 --> 01:34:12,080
Speaker 1: job at er Matt Ruhle. But Brady was fired in

1716
01:34:12,160 --> 01:34:14,320
Speaker 1: a second season. He then lands in Buffalo as Josh

1717
01:34:14,360 --> 01:34:18,160
Speaker 1: Allen's quarterback coach, and now he's the coordinator and he's

1718
01:34:18,160 --> 01:34:20,599
Speaker 1: one of two front runners. I think for the MVP

1719
01:34:20,840 --> 01:34:23,439
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, of course, and Joe Brady has a lot

1720
01:34:23,479 --> 01:34:28,479
Speaker 1: to do with that right now. I understand Joe Brady's

1721
01:34:28,479 --> 01:34:32,519
Speaker 1: getting significant interests from other teams, including the New Orleans Saints.

1722
01:34:32,920 --> 01:34:36,040
Speaker 1: That's where Brady coached before he went to LSU, And

1723
01:34:36,160 --> 01:34:40,080
Speaker 1: there's concern about hiring offensive coordinators for free quarterbacks. But

1724
01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:45,640
Speaker 1: that said, Brady has long regarded among NFL circles as

1725
01:34:45,720 --> 01:34:49,320
Speaker 1: having a great offensive mine even before he teamed up

1726
01:34:49,360 --> 01:34:53,880
Speaker 1: with Josh Allen. What could he do with Dak Prescott?

1727
01:34:54,439 --> 01:34:57,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. And here's another issue, thirty five years old?

1728
01:34:57,120 --> 01:35:00,679
Speaker 1: Is he ready? You don't know? But why hell aren't

1729
01:35:00,680 --> 01:35:03,800
Speaker 1: the Why the hell aren't the Cowboys talking to some

1730
01:35:03,840 --> 01:35:05,599
Speaker 1: of these guys? Or am I mixed up? Are they?

1731
01:35:05,600 --> 01:35:11,040
Speaker 1: And I missed it? I don't think Aaron the bloom

1732
01:35:11,080 --> 01:35:13,400
Speaker 1: is off Aaron Glenn's rose after what happens Saturday night.

1733
01:35:13,479 --> 01:35:17,200
Speaker 1: There's been too many, too many injuries on that defense,

1734
01:35:17,520 --> 01:35:20,439
Speaker 1: right and Ben Johnson's getting all the buzz. But don't

1735
01:35:20,479 --> 01:35:23,000
Speaker 1: go to sleep on Aaron Glenn, who's also got a

1736
01:35:23,040 --> 01:35:26,080
Speaker 1: history with the Cowboys. He's from Houston. He played for

1737
01:35:26,080 --> 01:35:28,960
Speaker 1: two seasons under Bill Parcells and Mike Zammer and Dallas.

1738
01:35:29,080 --> 01:35:32,919
Speaker 1: By the way, Aaron Glenn has built a very strong

1739
01:35:33,439 --> 01:35:37,360
Speaker 1: coaching resume. He's developed a lot of star defensive backs.

1740
01:35:38,360 --> 01:35:42,120
Speaker 1: He developed players with the Saints before joining Dan Campbell

1741
01:35:42,120 --> 01:35:44,759
Speaker 1: with the Lions. And remember those two played together in college.

1742
01:35:46,320 --> 01:35:49,200
Speaker 1: And there's no question that you know, you look at

1743
01:35:49,200 --> 01:35:53,760
Speaker 1: this Lion's culture that is really robust, and it's really exciting.

1744
01:35:53,920 --> 01:35:57,400
Speaker 1: And I know the stench of what happens Saturday night

1745
01:35:57,479 --> 01:35:59,599
Speaker 1: is going to linger for a while, but I still

1746
01:35:59,640 --> 01:36:02,880
Speaker 1: think that future for the Lions is bright. They'll get

1747
01:36:02,880 --> 01:36:05,760
Speaker 1: those injured defensive players back next year and they'll still

1748
01:36:05,760 --> 01:36:09,000
Speaker 1: have a great offense, and they'll still have that culture.

1749
01:36:09,080 --> 01:36:13,320
Speaker 1: And Aaron Glenn has been integral to that culture. You

1750
01:36:13,400 --> 01:36:17,040
Speaker 1: got Dan Campbell, he's the chief cook and bottle washer.

1751
01:36:17,080 --> 01:36:19,800
Speaker 1: You got Ben Johnson running the offense, but you got

1752
01:36:20,040 --> 01:36:21,920
Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn running the defense. And as you heard him

1753
01:36:21,920 --> 01:36:23,800
Speaker 1: saying a sound bite the other day, you hire me,

1754
01:36:23,840 --> 01:36:26,040
Speaker 1: you're not just getting a defensive coach. I know offense too,

1755
01:36:26,160 --> 01:36:30,000
Speaker 1: You're getting a coach. Aaron Glenn has improved that defense

1756
01:36:30,400 --> 01:36:34,200
Speaker 1: every year he's been there. He's a rising star. Listen

1757
01:36:34,240 --> 01:36:37,439
Speaker 1: to the guy talk. He's a natural born leader. He's

1758
01:36:37,439 --> 01:36:40,839
Speaker 1: interviewed for lots of jobs long before he went to Detroit,

1759
01:36:41,320 --> 01:36:44,640
Speaker 1: and I think he's ready to be a head coach now.

1760
01:36:44,680 --> 01:36:46,559
Speaker 1: He already interviewed with the Jets, where he spent eight

1761
01:36:46,600 --> 01:36:50,280
Speaker 1: years of his career. He's interviewed with the Saints. Both

1762
01:36:50,280 --> 01:36:53,200
Speaker 1: are very interested in him. I like the stability that

1763
01:36:53,240 --> 01:36:57,519
Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn would would would bring to Dallas. You're gonna

1764
01:36:57,520 --> 01:36:59,920
Speaker 1: dick around with Dion Sanders, You're gonna you're gonna room

1765
01:37:00,120 --> 01:37:04,320
Speaker 1: or Kellen Moore. Why not Aaron Glenn? Why are you

1766
01:37:04,360 --> 01:37:06,880
Speaker 1: not talking to Aaron Glenn? And while we're on what

1767
01:37:07,000 --> 01:37:11,120
Speaker 1: I consider to be hard ass, strong, good defensive coordinators

1768
01:37:11,120 --> 01:37:14,400
Speaker 1: in football coaches, the Cowboys should be talking to Brian

1769
01:37:14,439 --> 01:37:19,360
Speaker 1: Flores all right. Two years with the Vikings, Flores completely

1770
01:37:19,360 --> 01:37:21,760
Speaker 1: turned that defense around from one of the worst in

1771
01:37:21,800 --> 01:37:25,160
Speaker 1: the league to arguably the very best in Minnesota. Won

1772
01:37:25,240 --> 01:37:28,839
Speaker 1: fourteen games this year largely on this drink of that defense.

1773
01:37:29,960 --> 01:37:34,640
Speaker 1: Flores also has had head coaching experience. This is important.

1774
01:37:35,080 --> 01:37:38,800
Speaker 1: He's with the Dolphins for three years. Did you know

1775
01:37:39,040 --> 01:37:44,519
Speaker 1: that Brian Flores became the first Dolphins coach in twenty

1776
01:37:44,600 --> 01:37:48,479
Speaker 1: years to post consecutive winning season, but he was still

1777
01:37:48,520 --> 01:37:51,920
Speaker 1: fired in a controversial move and that led Flores to

1778
01:37:52,160 --> 01:37:55,840
Speaker 1: sue the Dolphins in the NFL. That's not good, I think,

1779
01:37:56,760 --> 01:37:59,080
Speaker 1: but the lawsuit is still ongoing, but it has to stop.

1780
01:37:59,080 --> 01:38:02,200
Speaker 1: Flores still be in a hot commodity. Why the hell

1781
01:38:02,520 --> 01:38:05,240
Speaker 1: you aren't the Cowboys offering you talk to Floris? Or

1782
01:38:05,240 --> 01:38:08,479
Speaker 1: are they? So? The biggest question for Flores, I get

1783
01:38:08,560 --> 01:38:12,120
Speaker 1: is a relationship with the quarterback because it's firing in Miami.

1784
01:38:13,120 --> 01:38:16,839
Speaker 1: There was allegedly situations that implied there was a toxic

1785
01:38:17,439 --> 01:38:21,320
Speaker 1: relationship with Tua. And we all know that Brian Flores

1786
01:38:21,400 --> 01:38:23,960
Speaker 1: is a very intense guy. I'ver a demanding guy. But

1787
01:38:24,000 --> 01:38:27,240
Speaker 1: there's also talk that he's interaction with Kevin O'Connell has

1788
01:38:27,240 --> 01:38:31,759
Speaker 1: helped Flores to develop a more middle of the road approach.

1789
01:38:32,479 --> 01:38:36,080
Speaker 1: By the way, Flores has a great relationship with Josh Braccown,

1790
01:38:36,200 --> 01:38:38,400
Speaker 1: a guy knew a little bit in Detroit. He's a

1791
01:38:38,479 --> 01:38:41,840
Speaker 1: quarterbacks coach, also a Texas native who I think is

1792
01:38:41,880 --> 01:38:47,879
Speaker 1: ready to be an offensive coordinator. So Aaron Glenn, Brian Flores,

1793
01:38:49,560 --> 01:38:54,600
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll, Joe Brady, Cliff Kingsbury. Okay, Kellen Moore, and

1794
01:38:55,200 --> 01:38:58,040
Speaker 1: I like Kellen Moore, but you let him out the

1795
01:38:58,080 --> 01:39:01,920
Speaker 1: door once. Do we have to mention Todd Monka or

1796
01:39:01,960 --> 01:39:07,040
Speaker 1: the Ravens an offensive coordinator again, another brilliant offensive mind.

1797
01:39:08,920 --> 01:39:12,320
Speaker 1: Players rave about him. Would Dallas take a chance on him?

1798
01:39:12,800 --> 01:39:15,519
Speaker 1: I don't know, mate. You know, people call Jerry Jones

1799
01:39:15,520 --> 01:39:17,519
Speaker 1: the worst donor in football. He will never hear me

1800
01:39:17,560 --> 01:39:20,040
Speaker 1: say that he's had too much of a positive impact

1801
01:39:20,080 --> 01:39:23,120
Speaker 1: in the NFL and he you know, he has won

1802
01:39:24,479 --> 01:39:27,080
Speaker 1: you know, three Super Bowls. I get the last one

1803
01:39:27,200 --> 01:39:31,479
Speaker 1: was thirty years ago with Barry Switzer using Jimmy Johnson's players.

1804
01:39:31,600 --> 01:39:34,720
Speaker 1: I get it. But you know, between the stadium he's

1805
01:39:34,720 --> 01:39:38,559
Speaker 1: built and all the you know, all the situations where

1806
01:39:40,680 --> 01:39:44,840
Speaker 1: you have where he's made the other NFL owners a

1807
01:39:44,840 --> 01:39:49,800
Speaker 1: ton of money. Okay, I don't think you could just

1808
01:39:49,960 --> 01:39:52,920
Speaker 1: ignore the fact that he's had a positive impact on

1809
01:39:52,960 --> 01:39:55,879
Speaker 1: the league. But it's always going to be overshadowed because,

1810
01:39:56,200 --> 01:39:59,080
Speaker 1: let's face it, he just moved on from a coach

1811
01:39:59,760 --> 01:40:02,920
Speaker 1: that I had a lot of defenders, Mike McCarthy. McCarthy

1812
01:40:02,920 --> 01:40:06,040
Speaker 1: won sixty three percent of his games. He had a

1813
01:40:06,040 --> 01:40:08,120
Speaker 1: point differential of over one hundred and twenty five and

1814
01:40:08,120 --> 01:40:11,000
Speaker 1: three straight seasons that hadn't happened in Dallas since Jimmy

1815
01:40:11,080 --> 01:40:14,599
Speaker 1: Johnson was there. Three playoff appearances. It took Jason Garrett

1816
01:40:14,600 --> 01:40:17,439
Speaker 1: ten years to do that. Those are his pluses. But

1817
01:40:17,479 --> 01:40:19,160
Speaker 1: he was never going to win a Super Bowl, all right.

1818
01:40:19,640 --> 01:40:22,200
Speaker 1: He did win one single wildcard matchup loss th other

1819
01:40:22,240 --> 01:40:25,599
Speaker 1: three postseason games, including that ugly loss to the seventh

1820
01:40:25,600 --> 01:40:29,000
Speaker 1: seed Green Bay last year. But Jerry Jones, and only

1821
01:40:29,080 --> 01:40:34,280
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones inevitable fashion, by the laying this decision for

1822
01:40:34,320 --> 01:40:37,360
Speaker 1: eight days, it is now appearing that he's handling this

1823
01:40:37,400 --> 01:40:41,599
Speaker 1: as poorly as possible. Meanwhile, McCarthy apparently now is somewhat

1824
01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:44,120
Speaker 1: of an attractive candidates. Talked to the Bears, well Saints.

1825
01:40:44,280 --> 01:40:45,880
Speaker 1: We'll see where he ends up. Looks like he's going

1826
01:40:45,920 --> 01:40:49,320
Speaker 1: to get a job. But I want to go back.

1827
01:40:50,080 --> 01:40:54,679
Speaker 1: I want to digress for just a second. Pete Carroll's

1828
01:40:54,720 --> 01:40:58,400
Speaker 1: name has come up, But as Pete Carroll really a

1829
01:40:58,479 --> 01:41:05,280
Speaker 1: legitimate candidate in this coaching cycle for another NFL job,

1830
01:41:06,280 --> 01:41:09,080
Speaker 1: let's unpack that. Coming up. I'm Bernie Fraddle. We're coming

1831
01:41:09,080 --> 01:41:10,760
Speaker 1: to you line from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio

1832
01:41:10,840 --> 01:41:13,840
Speaker 1: Tirack dot com studios. Keep it locked. You're listening to

1833
01:41:13,840 --> 01:41:16,360
Speaker 1: the Bernie Fraddle Show on Fox Sports Radio. All right,

1834
01:41:16,360 --> 01:41:18,640
Speaker 1: back at the Bernie Fraddle Show, Fox Sports Radio. Come

1835
01:41:18,720 --> 01:41:22,160
Speaker 1: to line from the tyrac dot com studios here in

1836
01:41:22,439 --> 01:41:28,120
Speaker 1: Las Vegas. We are twenty nine minutes away from the

1837
01:41:28,200 --> 01:41:32,360
Speaker 1: dance sensation sweeping the nation. What kind of brand new

1838
01:41:32,439 --> 01:41:37,479
Speaker 1: fool of you? Followed by what my name? SHAWL like this?

1839
01:41:37,600 --> 01:41:40,080
Speaker 1: I got a doozy of a brand new fool and

1840
01:41:40,120 --> 01:41:43,040
Speaker 1: we're going back to Florida. Oh, it's always a doozy

1841
01:41:43,640 --> 01:41:45,960
Speaker 1: when we go back to Florida. Plenty of new fresh

1842
01:41:46,040 --> 01:41:50,200
Speaker 1: names too in the what my Name segment? All right,

1843
01:41:51,320 --> 01:41:53,800
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll has interest in coaching in the NFL again

1844
01:41:53,840 --> 01:41:57,280
Speaker 1: next season, and he secured a couple of interviews. He

1845
01:41:57,360 --> 01:42:00,040
Speaker 1: talked to the Chicago Bears a couple weeks ago. I

1846
01:42:00,080 --> 01:42:04,519
Speaker 1: think he talked to the Raiders is recently. The interest

1847
01:42:04,640 --> 01:42:08,519
Speaker 1: is somewhat mutual because people are talking to him. Let's

1848
01:42:08,560 --> 01:42:10,960
Speaker 1: we forget Carroll was the head coach of the Seahawks

1849
01:42:11,680 --> 01:42:13,760
Speaker 1: from twenty ten to twenty twenty three, and I think

1850
01:42:13,800 --> 01:42:17,320
Speaker 1: a lot of folks were a little surprised when the

1851
01:42:17,360 --> 01:42:21,599
Speaker 1: team pushed him out given the success Carroll had, Seahawks

1852
01:42:21,640 --> 01:42:24,120
Speaker 1: won a championship under Caroll in twenty thirteen, got back

1853
01:42:24,200 --> 01:42:26,600
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl the following year. We all know

1854
01:42:26,680 --> 01:42:28,960
Speaker 1: what happened. Maybe they should have run the ball with

1855
01:42:29,040 --> 01:42:31,920
Speaker 1: Marshawn Lynch. If the play works, you're a hero. If

1856
01:42:31,960 --> 01:42:35,000
Speaker 1: a dozen, you're a village idiot. But other than that blemish,

1857
01:42:35,280 --> 01:42:39,479
Speaker 1: let's face it, Pete Carroll's legacy is secure. He wanted

1858
01:42:39,479 --> 01:42:43,160
Speaker 1: to keep his job of the Seahawks. Seattle chose the

1859
01:42:43,160 --> 01:42:45,120
Speaker 1: part ways and they went with Mike McDonald's, a thirty

1860
01:42:45,160 --> 01:42:48,120
Speaker 1: seven year old defensive guy. Seattle went ten and seven

1861
01:42:48,200 --> 01:42:50,560
Speaker 1: in their first season, but did not make the playoffs.

1862
01:42:52,080 --> 01:42:55,479
Speaker 1: Carol's coached over three hundred games in the NFL Okay

1863
01:42:56,400 --> 01:42:59,519
Speaker 1: and he in Seattle, he was forty nine games over

1864
01:42:59,560 --> 01:43:04,760
Speaker 1: five hundre and in his fourteen seasons missed the playoffs

1865
01:43:05,800 --> 01:43:08,120
Speaker 1: or made the playoffs ten out of fourteen years. No

1866
01:43:08,160 --> 01:43:11,040
Speaker 1: one else has done that in Seattle. So here's the question.

1867
01:43:12,760 --> 01:43:15,639
Speaker 1: He's Pete Carroll a legitimate candidate for an NFL who

1868
01:43:15,640 --> 01:43:20,200
Speaker 1: head coaching job. He's sure as hell should be. Is

1869
01:43:20,240 --> 01:43:24,759
Speaker 1: he a legitimate candidate to get a job during this cycle?

1870
01:43:25,760 --> 01:43:29,360
Speaker 1: He did an interview with the Bears. I guess what

1871
01:43:29,600 --> 01:43:33,800
Speaker 1: about a week ago, and then he spent a lot

1872
01:43:33,800 --> 01:43:38,920
Speaker 1: of last Monday afternoon at the Raiders headquarters in he

1873
01:43:39,240 --> 01:43:41,760
Speaker 1: you know, I said a minute ago he should be

1874
01:43:41,800 --> 01:43:45,200
Speaker 1: on the Cowboys radar. You never know what they're what

1875
01:43:45,240 --> 01:43:53,400
Speaker 1: they're going to do. But look, there are offshore betting

1876
01:43:53,400 --> 01:43:58,320
Speaker 1: sites that put up odds as to the realistic you know,

1877
01:43:58,640 --> 01:44:04,240
Speaker 1: probabilities or possibility of landing a job with vacancies. But

1878
01:44:04,600 --> 01:44:06,880
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll is actually the third favorite on the list

1879
01:44:06,880 --> 01:44:08,720
Speaker 1: to become the Raiders head coach. He's listed to two

1880
01:44:08,800 --> 01:44:13,080
Speaker 1: to one. But hell, this betting set at Dion Sanders,

1881
01:44:13,080 --> 01:44:14,720
Speaker 1: He's got no chance to get in the Bear's job.

1882
01:44:15,880 --> 01:44:18,360
Speaker 1: Ben Johnson. Oh, he's listed behind Ben Johnson. Carroll is

1883
01:44:18,360 --> 01:44:22,240
Speaker 1: also the third favorite to become the Bear's next head coach.

1884
01:44:22,400 --> 01:44:25,000
Speaker 1: They've got him at four to one, which is behind

1885
01:44:25,920 --> 01:44:30,840
Speaker 1: Ben Johnson and Mike McCarthy. And right now it looks

1886
01:44:30,840 --> 01:44:34,720
Speaker 1: like Ben Johnson and Mike McCarthy are the two hottest commodities,

1887
01:44:34,720 --> 01:44:37,720
Speaker 1: as it were number one favorites for various jobs. If

1888
01:44:37,760 --> 01:44:41,519
Speaker 1: they all get hiring is hired, as these odds suggest,

1889
01:44:42,080 --> 01:44:48,320
Speaker 1: there could theory theoretically be one spot open for Pete Carroll.

1890
01:44:49,200 --> 01:44:51,920
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll checks a lot of boxes. I think he

1891
01:44:52,080 --> 01:44:56,320
Speaker 1: should be considered. I think he can do the job.

1892
01:44:56,600 --> 01:44:58,080
Speaker 1: This is not a guy that's going to have to

1893
01:44:58,160 --> 01:45:01,240
Speaker 1: learn how to do the his job while he's learning

1894
01:45:01,280 --> 01:45:05,439
Speaker 1: the job. But the funny thing about these NFL coaching

1895
01:45:05,479 --> 01:45:09,800
Speaker 1: cycle you know this kubookie dance we do every year,

1896
01:45:09,840 --> 01:45:12,679
Speaker 1: and right now there are seven opening well there's six openings.

1897
01:45:13,120 --> 01:45:16,040
Speaker 1: McCarthy vacated. He wasn't fired, They just didn't renew him.

1898
01:45:16,080 --> 01:45:19,360
Speaker 1: Jerry tried to and you know, maybe this is what

1899
01:45:19,479 --> 01:45:21,800
Speaker 1: needed to happen. Frankly, I think it did. You can

1900
01:45:21,840 --> 01:45:23,880
Speaker 1: bring back McCarthy next year, and I guarantee you there

1901
01:45:23,880 --> 01:45:25,720
Speaker 1: would have been a point in time, juncture in the

1902
01:45:25,760 --> 01:45:28,519
Speaker 1: season when somebody would have said, Okay, what are we doing.

1903
01:45:28,840 --> 01:45:33,640
Speaker 1: We've seen this act before. Get something different. But you know,

1904
01:45:33,760 --> 01:45:39,320
Speaker 1: I always sort of have these secret wishes and hopes

1905
01:45:40,360 --> 01:45:46,600
Speaker 1: for NFL teams, and sometimes even in college whereby you

1906
01:45:46,640 --> 01:45:48,320
Speaker 1: say to yourself, well, who do I think they're going

1907
01:45:48,360 --> 01:45:53,080
Speaker 1: to hire? But who do I kind of secretly wish

1908
01:45:53,160 --> 01:45:56,000
Speaker 1: they hire? That would make it so much better for

1909
01:45:56,360 --> 01:46:01,400
Speaker 1: radio guys talking in this business. All right. There are

1910
01:46:01,439 --> 01:46:05,200
Speaker 1: six NFL teams right now searching for head coaches, and

1911
01:46:05,680 --> 01:46:09,280
Speaker 1: everybody's a critic, I guess, including me. You know, the

1912
01:46:09,360 --> 01:46:11,759
Speaker 1: Jets are looking for our coach. You get the Jets,

1913
01:46:11,800 --> 01:46:15,720
Speaker 1: the Bears, the Jacksonville Jaguars, the Saints, the Raiders, and

1914
01:46:15,760 --> 01:46:19,880
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. They still got time to focus on their searches. Okay,

1915
01:46:20,840 --> 01:46:24,760
Speaker 1: Remember go back to last January. There were eight openings.

1916
01:46:25,560 --> 01:46:29,640
Speaker 1: Six of the hires didn't take place until after January

1917
01:46:29,680 --> 01:46:33,000
Speaker 1: twenty second, and the last one took place on February first.

1918
01:46:33,320 --> 01:46:36,920
Speaker 1: So as we sit here today is January nineteenth. I

1919
01:46:36,920 --> 01:46:39,000
Speaker 1: don't look for anything to start really happening in a

1920
01:46:39,000 --> 01:46:41,759
Speaker 1: big way till later this week. But again, Ben Johnson's

1921
01:46:41,760 --> 01:46:44,320
Speaker 1: a free man, so if Tom Brady wants him bad

1922
01:46:44,400 --> 01:46:48,920
Speaker 1: enough for the Raiders. Right And by the way, the

1923
01:46:49,040 --> 01:46:53,679
Speaker 1: previous coaching cycles in twenty two and twenty three were

1924
01:46:53,840 --> 01:46:57,639
Speaker 1: you know, lasted longer than that. Well endo February all right,

1925
01:46:58,600 --> 01:47:01,280
Speaker 1: So let's start with this Chicago Bears, and let's have

1926
01:47:01,320 --> 01:47:07,040
Speaker 1: a little fun game here. Who do I think they'll hire?

1927
01:47:08,439 --> 01:47:10,320
Speaker 1: But who do I wish they would hire? That it's

1928
01:47:10,360 --> 01:47:13,559
Speaker 1: best for our business. And they've already interviewed four offensive

1929
01:47:13,600 --> 01:47:18,519
Speaker 1: coordinators somebody, Drew Petsing, Ben Johnson, Arthur Smith, Mike Kafka.

1930
01:47:18,600 --> 01:47:22,960
Speaker 1: They've interviewed four defensive coordinators, Anthony Weaver, Aaron Glenn Vance,

1931
01:47:23,040 --> 01:47:28,640
Speaker 1: Joseph Brian Flores. They've interviewed four former head coaches McCarthy,

1932
01:47:28,840 --> 01:47:32,040
Speaker 1: Ron Rivera. I like Ron Rivera, but I think when

1933
01:47:32,080 --> 01:47:35,280
Speaker 1: it comes to being a head coach, you sew what

1934
01:47:35,280 --> 01:47:38,240
Speaker 1: happened he left Washington, and you sew it. Dan Quinsta,

1935
01:47:38,439 --> 01:47:41,320
Speaker 1: you might be better off with the Heraldo Rivera, Mike Rabel,

1936
01:47:41,360 --> 01:47:43,679
Speaker 1: he's already spoken forward New England, and then you've already

1937
01:47:43,720 --> 01:47:46,880
Speaker 1: heard me talk about Pete Carroll, by the way, not

1938
01:47:46,960 --> 01:47:49,679
Speaker 1: to be you know. They interviewed a couple of college

1939
01:47:49,680 --> 01:47:52,240
Speaker 1: coaches too, Matt Campbell from Iowa State and David Shaw,

1940
01:47:53,080 --> 01:47:56,840
Speaker 1: And they interviewed the assistant Thomas Brown, who graced the

1941
01:47:56,880 --> 01:48:02,320
Speaker 1: sidelines the last few games after Matt Eberflus has fired.

1942
01:48:02,840 --> 01:48:05,479
Speaker 1: Apparently they've they're going to or they have and they're

1943
01:48:05,520 --> 01:48:09,320
Speaker 1: going to extend invitations to Todd Mankan Joe Brady, Cliff Kingsbury,

1944
01:48:09,320 --> 01:48:15,240
Speaker 1: and Adam Stenovich. And there's even Tako Marcus Freeman. No,

1945
01:48:15,320 --> 01:48:17,360
Speaker 1: I don't think Marcus Freeman's going anywhere. I think he's

1946
01:48:17,400 --> 01:48:21,400
Speaker 1: just a perfect fit there at Notre Dame. But you know,

1947
01:48:22,840 --> 01:48:30,360
Speaker 1: Kevin Warren, Ryan Poles, there could be some synergy there, right.

1948
01:48:33,240 --> 01:48:34,960
Speaker 1: I just don't. I just don't see it happening. I

1949
01:48:34,960 --> 01:48:38,760
Speaker 1: don't see it happening. My gut tells me when push

1950
01:48:38,840 --> 01:48:43,840
Speaker 1: comes to shove, they're probably gonna hire or at least

1951
01:48:43,880 --> 01:48:48,639
Speaker 1: offer the job to Mike McCarthy because he had success

1952
01:48:48,680 --> 01:48:53,120
Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers at least statistically had some success during

1953
01:48:53,160 --> 01:48:59,000
Speaker 1: the regular season with Dak Prescott, So could he do

1954
01:48:59,040 --> 01:49:03,599
Speaker 1: that with Caleb Williams. Right, Carthy does have one hundred

1955
01:49:03,600 --> 01:49:08,080
Speaker 1: and eighty five wins. For me, I have no idea

1956
01:49:08,120 --> 01:49:13,800
Speaker 1: if McCarthy would have success in Chicago. They do have

1957
01:49:13,880 --> 01:49:16,600
Speaker 1: cap space, they do have draft capital, they do have

1958
01:49:16,600 --> 01:49:22,360
Speaker 1: a quarterback. He's the higher i'd like to see in

1959
01:49:22,400 --> 01:49:26,200
Speaker 1: Chicago because I think it's good for my business, Okay,

1960
01:49:27,040 --> 01:49:30,600
Speaker 1: I just do. I think it opens the door for frivolity,

1961
01:49:31,080 --> 01:49:34,839
Speaker 1: and we like frivolity. On the other hand, Mike McCarthy

1962
01:49:34,880 --> 01:49:38,519
Speaker 1: turned the tables on all of us. Remember three NFCD

1963
01:49:38,800 --> 01:49:40,840
Speaker 1: North teams just went to the playoffs this year and

1964
01:49:40,840 --> 01:49:43,479
Speaker 1: we boasted about I mean mc goody had three teams

1965
01:49:43,479 --> 01:49:46,600
Speaker 1: in thirteen games and they all got smoked into playoffs.

1966
01:49:47,400 --> 01:49:50,280
Speaker 1: Things can turn around quickly. Would they end with the

1967
01:49:50,280 --> 01:49:53,280
Speaker 1: Bears highly unlikely? Would they ender Mike McCarthy are only unlikely?

1968
01:49:53,360 --> 01:49:55,000
Speaker 1: But there's a story to be had there and I'm

1969
01:49:55,000 --> 01:49:58,360
Speaker 1: finding it. So if I could wave my magic wand

1970
01:49:58,439 --> 01:50:04,080
Speaker 1: bring out McCarthy to Chicago. Yeah, Now, the Jacksonville Jaguars,

1971
01:50:04,120 --> 01:50:06,160
Speaker 1: one of what four teams did never go to the

1972
01:50:06,200 --> 01:50:11,240
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, along with the Lions, Browns, and Texans. Shot

1973
01:50:11,360 --> 01:50:14,040
Speaker 1: Con has decided who ball account seems to be a

1974
01:50:14,040 --> 01:50:21,000
Speaker 1: pretty good dude. You've got Trevor Lawrence. Apparently they're going

1975
01:50:21,040 --> 01:50:24,599
Speaker 1: to retain their GM, Trent Balkey. They've already. They've also

1976
01:50:24,760 --> 01:50:28,920
Speaker 1: interviewed for offensive coordinators Kellen Moore, Todd Monk and Liam

1977
01:50:28,960 --> 01:50:31,760
Speaker 1: Cohen who doesn't get enough run he's a stud in

1978
01:50:31,960 --> 01:50:37,920
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, and Ben Johnson. They've also interviewed Spagnolo, Aaron Glenn,

1979
01:50:37,960 --> 01:50:42,600
Speaker 1: Brian Flores. Defensive coordinators. Robert Sala is a guy. I

1980
01:50:42,640 --> 01:50:46,599
Speaker 1: will bet a nickel that Robert sala ends up as

1981
01:50:46,600 --> 01:50:49,880
Speaker 1: the next defensive coordinator for the forty nine ers. Be

1982
01:50:49,920 --> 01:50:54,360
Speaker 1: a great fit for both sides. Why not, it's I

1983
01:50:54,360 --> 01:50:58,920
Speaker 1: think it's a match made in heaven. I would get

1984
01:50:58,960 --> 01:51:01,440
Speaker 1: a kick out of it, though, if the Jacksonville Jaguars

1985
01:51:01,520 --> 01:51:06,080
Speaker 1: hired Robert Sawa as their head coach, but the hire

1986
01:51:06,160 --> 01:51:09,839
Speaker 1: I'd really like to see. I'd like to see Brian

1987
01:51:09,920 --> 01:51:15,720
Speaker 1: Flores get the job in Jacksonville. Now. He had a

1988
01:51:15,720 --> 01:51:19,320
Speaker 1: three year run coach in the Dolphins that produced two

1989
01:51:19,400 --> 01:51:24,479
Speaker 1: winning seasons, no playoff appearances, and a lot of hurt feelings. Okay,

1990
01:51:25,360 --> 01:51:28,400
Speaker 1: and Flores stopped a little short of publicly apologizing for

1991
01:51:28,479 --> 01:51:34,360
Speaker 1: his treatment of Tua, which was criticized as very harsh.

1992
01:51:34,720 --> 01:51:37,679
Speaker 1: He seems to have rebuilt his persona, his image during

1993
01:51:38,080 --> 01:51:41,520
Speaker 1: his two year run with the Vikings alongside Kevin O'Connell.

1994
01:51:42,920 --> 01:51:47,040
Speaker 1: And even if Flores Dole has tamped down some of

1995
01:51:47,080 --> 01:51:53,679
Speaker 1: his hard ass behavior, what Brian Flores really would bring

1996
01:51:54,200 --> 01:51:58,640
Speaker 1: to Jacksonville is a new level of toughness an accountability.

1997
01:51:59,200 --> 01:52:01,439
Speaker 1: He'd bring the edge said at one time that organization

1998
01:52:01,640 --> 01:52:04,479
Speaker 1: had they were just in the playoffs a couple of

1999
01:52:04,560 --> 01:52:08,200
Speaker 1: years ago. I think Brian Flores could fix that culture.

2000
01:52:09,360 --> 01:52:12,679
Speaker 1: I think nothing against Doug Peterson. They became very laid back,

2001
01:52:13,479 --> 01:52:16,040
Speaker 1: and I think he'd shake things up and it would

2002
01:52:16,040 --> 01:52:18,519
Speaker 1: be good for our business to see Brian Flores back

2003
01:52:18,560 --> 01:52:22,360
Speaker 1: on the sidelines with the Jacksonville Jaguars. By the way,

2004
01:52:22,479 --> 01:52:26,200
Speaker 1: winking a nod to Vic Fangio, Fangio worked with Trent

2005
01:52:26,240 --> 01:52:29,720
Speaker 1: Balkey in San Francisco. Those two formed quite a pair

2006
01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:32,040
Speaker 1: under Jim Harbaugh that got to the Super Bowl, lost

2007
01:52:32,040 --> 01:52:36,840
Speaker 1: to the Ravens back in twenty twelve, and when the

2008
01:52:36,920 --> 01:52:43,400
Speaker 1: Eagles hired Vic Fangio, their defensive metrics improved dramatically. All right.

2009
01:52:44,520 --> 01:52:48,720
Speaker 1: By the way, I know that Vic Fangio was they

2010
01:52:48,760 --> 01:52:55,160
Speaker 1: head coach in Denver and their record was not great. However, However,

2011
01:52:57,960 --> 01:53:01,520
Speaker 1: if you consider what he actually did with the quarterbacks,

2012
01:53:01,560 --> 01:53:06,240
Speaker 1: he had the legendary Brett Rippin, Brandon Allen, Jeff driscoll.

2013
01:53:07,200 --> 01:53:09,400
Speaker 1: I love Joe Flacco, but he was not good in Denver,

2014
01:53:09,439 --> 01:53:13,280
Speaker 1: and Joe Flacco sold Now his blood types discontinued. They

2015
01:53:13,320 --> 01:53:15,920
Speaker 1: even had to start a practice squad receiver in Kendall

2016
01:53:15,960 --> 01:53:24,360
Speaker 1: Hinton at quarterback. Fangio actually, in some NFL circles it

2017
01:53:24,520 --> 01:53:27,400
Speaker 1: was perceived to have overachieved in Denver even though they

2018
01:53:27,439 --> 01:53:31,360
Speaker 1: were under five hundred. Do I think Jacksonville will hire him? No,

2019
01:53:31,680 --> 01:53:35,320
Speaker 1: I'd like to see Brian Flories go there. Yeah, that's

2020
01:53:35,360 --> 01:53:39,320
Speaker 1: good for our business. All right, back to the Cowboys.

2021
01:53:39,960 --> 01:53:46,240
Speaker 1: So everybody knows that, you know, Jerry Jones has what

2022
01:53:46,280 --> 01:53:50,240
Speaker 1: I call the Bobby Knight syndrome in droves, and that is,

2023
01:53:50,520 --> 01:53:55,759
Speaker 1: you like the spotlight, You're unwilling to vacate the spotlight

2024
01:53:56,800 --> 01:54:03,080
Speaker 1: even if it hurts your team. Bobby Knight admitted, I

2025
01:54:03,080 --> 01:54:05,760
Speaker 1: think that he the spotlight. He missed the spotlight a

2026
01:54:05,760 --> 01:54:09,160
Speaker 1: lot more than it missed him. So after leaving Indiana,

2027
01:54:09,600 --> 01:54:11,240
Speaker 1: not of his own doing, he ended up a Texas

2028
01:54:11,280 --> 01:54:14,320
Speaker 1: Tech of all places. But the Cowboys are the story here,

2029
01:54:14,320 --> 01:54:15,560
Speaker 1: and I'm going to tell you what I think and

2030
01:54:15,600 --> 01:54:18,280
Speaker 1: who I'd really like to see hired there. I'm Bernie Fraddle.

2031
01:54:18,320 --> 01:54:20,040
Speaker 1: We're coming to line from the Las Vegas Fox Sports

2032
01:54:20,120 --> 01:54:23,000
Speaker 1: Radio Tireck dot Com studios. Keep it locked or listening

2033
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Speaker 1: to the Bernie Fradle Show on Fox Sports Radio. All right,

2034
01:54:25,800 --> 01:54:28,360
Speaker 1: back on the Bernie Fradle Show, Fox Sports Radio. Just

2035
01:54:28,520 --> 01:54:32,480
Speaker 1: ten minutes away from the Dan Sensation sweep of the nation.

2036
01:54:32,560 --> 01:54:35,000
Speaker 1: What kind of brand new fool of you, followed by

2037
01:54:35,280 --> 01:54:39,720
Speaker 1: what my name? Jerry Jones, Dallas Cowboys top of the list,

2038
01:54:39,960 --> 01:54:46,280
Speaker 1: king of the who all right. Executives from other NFL

2039
01:54:46,480 --> 01:54:51,280
Speaker 1: teams and fans media alike all seem to agree that

2040
01:54:51,360 --> 01:54:54,480
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones just does not want to give up the spotlight.

2041
01:54:55,880 --> 01:55:00,960
Speaker 1: And Jones actually, you know, defended the way he handles,

2042
01:55:01,520 --> 01:55:06,760
Speaker 1: the way he has, you know, presided over coaches who's

2043
01:55:06,760 --> 01:55:10,920
Speaker 1: had seven now since Jimmy Johnson left because he told

2044
01:55:10,920 --> 01:55:13,400
Speaker 1: his fellow owners that, hey, you guys have spent so

2045
01:55:13,480 --> 01:55:16,760
Speaker 1: much time pissing away dead money for fired coaches. I

2046
01:55:16,760 --> 01:55:20,320
Speaker 1: don't want to do that. He let McCarthy's contract aspire

2047
01:55:21,200 --> 01:55:24,160
Speaker 1: thirty years ago when the Cowboys are rolling under Jimmy Johnson.

2048
01:55:24,560 --> 01:55:29,200
Speaker 1: Jones made this mistake in February ninety four of opening

2049
01:55:29,200 --> 01:55:31,360
Speaker 1: his mouth at a banquet, apparently so they could find

2050
01:55:31,400 --> 01:55:33,720
Speaker 1: five hundred coaches that could have won with that team.

2051
01:55:34,400 --> 01:55:38,040
Speaker 1: That comment said got back to Jimmy Johnson, and that

2052
01:55:38,120 --> 01:55:44,360
Speaker 1: led to his departure. Seven coaches subsequently, Jerry Jones is hired.

2053
01:55:45,120 --> 01:55:48,800
Speaker 1: Six produced winning records, but none has come close to

2054
01:55:48,880 --> 01:55:53,160
Speaker 1: delivering another Super Bowl. So the question is, what is

2055
01:55:53,240 --> 01:55:55,200
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones going to do. Now, what is he willing

2056
01:55:55,200 --> 01:55:57,440
Speaker 1: to pay for his next coach? Who does he want

2057
01:55:58,480 --> 01:56:02,280
Speaker 1: dragging out McCarthy's situation, may or man not of course,

2058
01:56:02,360 --> 01:56:06,760
Speaker 1: Dallas some opportunities in the market. Maybe not. It's too early.

2059
01:56:06,880 --> 01:56:09,840
Speaker 1: There's still guys out there, and I don't even know

2060
01:56:09,840 --> 01:56:14,280
Speaker 1: if Dallas is really seeking the hottest candidates. They schedule interviews,

2061
01:56:14,320 --> 01:56:17,640
Speaker 1: you know, they had Robert Sala, Kellen Moore, Leslie Frazer, YadA,

2062
01:56:17,720 --> 01:56:20,720
Speaker 1: YadA ya. I think they're going to probably end up

2063
01:56:20,720 --> 01:56:24,960
Speaker 1: with Kellen Moore. Let's face it, he's been there. He

2064
01:56:25,040 --> 01:56:28,920
Speaker 1: played for the Cowboys coach the quarterbacks, offensive coordinator for

2065
01:56:28,920 --> 01:56:32,600
Speaker 1: four years. The team ranked fifth and offensive VPA per play.

2066
01:56:33,000 --> 01:56:36,360
Speaker 1: They were ten games over five hundred. Moore has history

2067
01:56:36,560 --> 01:56:39,600
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys. It's safe. He's not going to talk back.

2068
01:56:39,800 --> 01:56:42,720
Speaker 1: He'll assimilate into the Cowboys culture. He'd have a good

2069
01:56:42,720 --> 01:56:45,920
Speaker 1: feel for the upside the downside. He knows Dallas. He's

2070
01:56:45,920 --> 01:56:49,200
Speaker 1: played there, worked there, and again, he's not going to

2071
01:56:49,280 --> 01:56:52,560
Speaker 1: give Jerry Jones any back talk. By the way, Moore's

2072
01:56:52,600 --> 01:56:55,400
Speaker 1: having a hell of a year with the Eagles this year.

2073
01:56:56,000 --> 01:56:58,760
Speaker 1: He's done a really good job with Jalen Hurts and

2074
01:56:58,800 --> 01:57:03,000
Speaker 1: he's been influential think in helping create conditions to wear

2075
01:57:03,400 --> 01:57:06,680
Speaker 1: sake one Barkley could flourish. He's probably who they're gonna hire.

2076
01:57:06,680 --> 01:57:09,000
Speaker 1: Who do I want to see? Come on, man, this

2077
01:57:09,080 --> 01:57:15,160
Speaker 1: isn't even close. How cool would it be? It's a circus?

2078
01:57:15,720 --> 01:57:19,560
Speaker 1: You want to see spotlight? Could it shine enough on

2079
01:57:19,720 --> 01:57:25,360
Speaker 1: Dion and Jerry Jones? Are you kidding me? This would

2080
01:57:25,360 --> 01:57:29,520
Speaker 1: be so delicious to watch. Some people have said they're

2081
01:57:29,560 --> 01:57:32,320
Speaker 1: made for each other. He got not one showman but two.

2082
01:57:32,400 --> 01:57:34,760
Speaker 1: It's much watch TV whether they win, lose, or draw.

2083
01:57:35,080 --> 01:57:38,040
Speaker 1: And I don't think they'd win. I don't think Dion's

2084
01:57:38,040 --> 01:57:40,560
Speaker 1: built for that. I love Dion, He's a winner everywhere

2085
01:57:40,560 --> 01:57:43,040
Speaker 1: he goes, but he wouldn't have the control to make

2086
01:57:43,080 --> 01:57:46,160
Speaker 1: it happen. And he's already kicked out media members and

2087
01:57:46,240 --> 01:57:49,839
Speaker 1: Boulder that didn't he didn't like. Well, the media in

2088
01:57:49,920 --> 01:57:52,200
Speaker 1: Dallas is a little tougher than Bowler. What would it

2089
01:57:52,240 --> 01:57:54,480
Speaker 1: look like if they didn't win? But even better, what

2090
01:57:54,480 --> 01:57:56,880
Speaker 1: would it look like if they won? Can you imagine that?

2091
01:57:57,560 --> 01:58:00,840
Speaker 1: Jerry and Dion? Please make it happen? Coming up? What

2092
01:58:00,920 --> 01:58:02,960
Speaker 1: kind of brand new fool of you? And what my name?

2093
01:58:03,120 --> 01:58:05,000
Speaker 1: Keep it locked or listen to the Bernie Frattle Show

2094
01:58:05,040 --> 01:58:08,920
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. Well, that's right, you heard the man.

2095
01:58:09,760 --> 01:58:12,480
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2096
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Speaker 1: tire buying should be. Well, we've come to that juncture

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Speaker 1: in the week. You know what, you love it? You

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Speaker 1: can't live without it, see because as you'll give you.

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Speaker 1: Every one said you can observe a lot by watching.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly what we do here on the Bernie Frattle Show.

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Speaker 1: Because around this great country of ours, from c to Oily,

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Speaker 1: SA and even around the globe, well, people are human.

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Speaker 1: They engage in behaviors. Sometimes these behaviors are silly, maybe innocuous,

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Speaker 1: but silly, questionable. Oftentimes they morph into things more serious,

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Speaker 1: perhaps illegal, run a foul of the lock, maybe land

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Speaker 1: you in jail. But any way you slice it, any

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Speaker 1: way you characterize it, and way you describe it. These

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Speaker 1: behaviors that people engage in, they always leave us scratching

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Speaker 1: our head and asking ourselves, what kind of brand new

2115
01:59:21,720 --> 01:59:28,400
Speaker 1: fool are you? So?

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Speaker 3: What kind of brand new fool are you?

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Speaker 1: This one is one of the best ones I've ever had,

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Speaker 1: I think, because it just involves the level of lunacy

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Speaker 1: that's indescribable. Okay, we take it down to Chay's in

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Speaker 1: my favorite state, Florida, and we introduce you to a

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Speaker 1: lady by the name of Carlo. Now, I don't know

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Speaker 1: if anybody listening out here is ever called the police. Frankly,

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Speaker 1: I haven't, Okay, but if you do, I'm sure there

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Speaker 1: a real decorum. And if you call the police more

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Speaker 1: than once, or many times, or a lot of times,

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Speaker 1: it's to start to question what is your agenda. Let's

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Speaker 1: say hello to Carla. I'm not going to give her

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Speaker 1: last name. She was busted recently. Carlo is a fifty

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Speaker 1: year old woman, and she was busted because she'd been

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Speaker 1: placing what they described as a torrent of phone calls

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Speaker 1: to the Saint Petersburg Police Department at Panila County Sheriff's Office.

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Speaker 1: The complaint went onto alledge that she was harassing, belittling,

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Speaker 1: swearing at, arguing with police employees who answered their calls,

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Speaker 1: and the content of the calls were vulgar, threatening, obscene.

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Speaker 1: It contained extreme explsives, sexual nuendo, belittling remarks, all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: Here's where it gets fun. He can't make this up.

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Speaker 1: We could make it up, but why would you? Over

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Speaker 1: one twenty four hour period last month, Carla allegedly called

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Speaker 1: the police department are you ready? Five hundred and twelve

2140
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Speaker 1: times wow? In a twenty four hour period. By the way,

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Speaker 1: on some of these occasions, Carla demanded that the officers

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Speaker 1: come to her residence and arrest her. Occasionally, the cops

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Speaker 1: would show up, and then she would go inside, refuse

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Speaker 1: to enter the door, and then she'd give the cops

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Speaker 1: the middle finger through the door. Now, in a bid

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Speaker 1: to get Carla to cease calling police officials who comparently

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Speaker 1: have shown the patients of job on this one, sent

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Speaker 1: a certified letter informing that further abuse of non emergency

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Speaker 1: line result in criminal chargers. But get Carlo, she slicks.

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Speaker 1: She dials from more than one number. She apparently ignored

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Speaker 1: the warning, prompting KA cops to arrest her on a

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Speaker 1: pair of misdemeanor counts. She was released from custody finally

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Speaker 1: after posting a four hundred dollars bond, but then she

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Speaker 1: was arrested again after continuing her phone harassment, even after

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Speaker 1: being arrested the time before. By the way, she's no piker.

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Speaker 1: Her criminal history includes multiple felony and mystery demeanor battery convictions,

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Speaker 1: and Carla apparently actually spent six years in state prison.

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Speaker 1: But here comes the punchline, and I always bring it.

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Speaker 1: It's always there. I told you she called the police

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Speaker 1: department a lot, but I bet you didn't know it

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Speaker 1: was eleven thousand times. Carla from Florida, who likes to

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Speaker 1: call the cops and insult them for reasons I'll never understand.

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Speaker 1: Call them times, Carla from Florida. What kind of brand

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Speaker 1: new fool are you? You gotta ad mid Shade. That's

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Speaker 1: one of the weirder ones we've had. That's saying a lot.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Carlo, sounds like my ex.

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Speaker 1: Shane with the comedy Love It, look It.

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Speaker 6: We do what we can, Bernie, we do what we can.

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Speaker 1: The legendary shaeogenheck Folks o quay up for Shaky Green

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Speaker 1: and the Catskills Next week, but no Saturday.

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Speaker 6: Unfortunately, I won't be in Florida, but mine is going

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Speaker 6: to be in San Antonio, Texas. I don't think we've

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Speaker 6: been there, at least I haven't.

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Speaker 1: Been there yet. Oh I've been there, Rialk.

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Speaker 6: Have you been to a Bill Miller barbecue?

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Speaker 1: Not that I recall.

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Speaker 6: So it's a thing out there. But unfortunately, not great

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Speaker 6: news for them because they are ordered to pay approximately

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Speaker 6: two point eight million in a Bexer County lawsuit for

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Speaker 6: serving dangerously hot barbecue sauce. According to a plantiffs lawyer,

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Speaker 6: money a woman sued Bill Miller Barbecue Enterprises for allegedly

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Speaker 6: serving the sauce that gave her second degree burns all

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Speaker 6: across her mouth. Genesis Menita filed the loss it in

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Speaker 6: October twenty twenty three in Bexter County District Courts, and

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Speaker 6: in May twenty twenty three, Monita and her sister went

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Speaker 6: to the restaurant located at Loop four to ten and

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Speaker 6: they went to order breakfast tacos to to drive through

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Speaker 6: and she ordered four tacos and barbecue sauce, and after

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Speaker 6: Monita paid, the clerk gave her the order in a

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Speaker 6: brown paper bag. Monita drove directly to a space in

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Speaker 6: the restaurant's parking lot to eat her breakfast. When Monita

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Speaker 6: took the container of barbecue sauce, it was so hot

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Speaker 6: that it caused her to drop the container and spilled

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Speaker 6: the sauce on her right thigh, causing a second degree burn.

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Speaker 6: Lawsuit also stated that Monita's injuries and damages were caused

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Speaker 6: by the restaurant's negligence for serving dangerously hot barbecue sauce

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Speaker 6: and failed to warn her it was hot, among other allegations,

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Speaker 6: and according to the lawsuit, Bill Miller's policy says they

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Speaker 6: served the barbecue sauce had one hundred and sixty five degrees,

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02:05:08,360 --> 02:05:10,320
Speaker 6: but it was served out one hundred and eighty nine

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Speaker 6: degrees on the date Menita was burned. So you can

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Speaker 6: take what you can take from this. But two point

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02:05:18,520 --> 02:05:20,960
Speaker 6: eight million dollars is a lot of money. So Munita

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02:05:21,200 --> 02:05:25,480
Speaker 6: for those burns is getting a lot. So Bill Miller

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Speaker 6: barbecues what kind of brand new food.

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Speaker 1: Just so I understand this correctly, this lady was was

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Speaker 1: given a judgment of two point eight million. She won.

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Speaker 6: She won.

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Speaker 1: I'm really missing something here, man, cause you soe to

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Speaker 1: mitigate loss how was it that she determined? And with

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Speaker 1: all due respect because I don't know. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to argue at mood court. I haven't read the case,

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Speaker 1: But how is it you ascertained that you suffer two

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Speaker 1: point eight million in damages?

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Speaker 6: So let me let me add Let me please please please?

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Speaker 1: Do you work from you? Were you? You know? Law? You? Okay,

2217
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Speaker 1: go ahead.

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Speaker 6: So this wasn't the first time this incident has happened,

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02:06:07,080 --> 02:06:09,560
Speaker 6: Morales said. The same incident happened two years ago at

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Speaker 6: the same exact restaurant. So it seems like this is

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Speaker 6: something that it's like kind of the second time that

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02:06:16,600 --> 02:06:20,280
Speaker 6: it's happened, and because of that, that is something that

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02:06:20,400 --> 02:06:24,360
Speaker 6: is getting added to the end. How much they have

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Speaker 6: to pay?

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Speaker 1: I'm sure.

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Speaker 6: Yes, she had second degree burns on her leg.

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Speaker 1: How does hot sauce sit up on her? Damn lake?

2228
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Speaker 6: It was so hot that she dropped it?

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Speaker 1: All right, you've answered all the question. Listen, this one

2230
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Speaker 1: is we have. These are a couple of real doozies tonight,

2231
02:06:45,440 --> 02:06:51,000
Speaker 1: these both of these Because actually I was hosted mallor

2232
02:06:51,040 --> 02:06:53,720
Speaker 1: about six months ago, and I like to delve into

2233
02:06:53,720 --> 02:06:57,720
Speaker 1: some you know, sideways topics every now and then you

2234
02:06:57,760 --> 02:07:02,280
Speaker 1: know above Board, there was this restaurant in England that

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02:07:02,440 --> 02:07:06,080
Speaker 1: ran this contest called Earned Your Wings. Right, It was

2236
02:07:06,120 --> 02:07:09,120
Speaker 1: an endurance test. You could eat fifteen chicken wings that

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02:07:09,240 --> 02:07:14,360
Speaker 1: were coded in something called Carolina Reaper sauce, and you

2238
02:07:14,400 --> 02:07:17,720
Speaker 1: were warned you had to sign a release that yes

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Speaker 1: you could be hurt, yes you could be painful, and

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Speaker 1: the waiver even said possible loss of life. Which you know,

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02:07:24,600 --> 02:07:26,680
Speaker 1: lawyers are going to put those disclaimers in there right

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Speaker 1: if people line up to do it. So I just

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02:07:30,200 --> 02:07:32,760
Speaker 1: I this book's missing a chapter. To me. You got

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02:07:32,760 --> 02:07:33,880
Speaker 1: the last word on the shade.

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Speaker 6: I mean it's Buffalo Wild Wings has the same thing.

2246
02:07:36,240 --> 02:07:39,160
Speaker 6: Actually with that that wing challenge they right across the

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02:07:39,160 --> 02:07:41,000
Speaker 6: street they got the same thing. I actually I did

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Speaker 6: it too, which is it's funny that you brought that up.

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02:07:44,280 --> 02:07:47,000
Speaker 6: But no, yeah, it's definitely a crazy scenario. And I've

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Speaker 6: heard this situation happening at like McDonald's and stuff with

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02:07:50,080 --> 02:07:53,040
Speaker 6: like serving their hot chocolate too hot or something like that.

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02:07:53,080 --> 02:07:55,880
Speaker 6: So this is definitely something that I've seen before. So

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02:07:55,920 --> 02:08:00,400
Speaker 6: I mean, hey remember the hot coffee. Yes, McDonald's four

2254
02:08:00,520 --> 02:08:03,360
Speaker 6: years ago, same principle, same principle it's too hot. Then

2255
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Speaker 6: they sued. So hey, I mean, if you're out there

2256
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Speaker 6: and you get.

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Speaker 1: There, that's actually a really good point I did. I

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02:08:08,440 --> 02:08:11,360
Speaker 1: never thought of that in those terms. That's analogous. It's

2259
02:08:11,440 --> 02:08:16,240
Speaker 1: very analogous. Yeah, a good one. I mean, don okay,

2260
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Speaker 1: two point nine million in damages though, you sue to

2261
02:08:18,960 --> 02:08:20,680
Speaker 1: mitigate your loss two point.

2262
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Speaker 6: Nine millions, like generation. You can turn that into like

2263
02:08:22,720 --> 02:08:23,600
Speaker 6: generational line.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what this individual does for

2265
02:08:25,880 --> 02:08:28,760
Speaker 1: a living. I don't know how much money they have. Whatever,

2266
02:08:29,640 --> 02:08:32,680
Speaker 1: you sue to mitigate loss to make yourself whole. If

2267
02:08:32,720 --> 02:08:36,360
Speaker 1: she suffered injury, she needs to be made whole, medical bills,

2268
02:08:36,720 --> 02:08:39,840
Speaker 1: lost time at work. Maybe it was it was a

2269
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Speaker 1: categorized under pain and suffering.

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Speaker 6: Pain and suffering. It could be psychological situations in terms

2271
02:08:46,200 --> 02:08:49,400
Speaker 6: of just like she can never really trust anyone anymore,

2272
02:08:49,440 --> 02:08:52,480
Speaker 6: because they said that it was one hundred and sixty

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02:08:52,560 --> 02:08:54,320
Speaker 6: five degrees, but it ended up being one hundred and

2274
02:08:54,320 --> 02:08:57,240
Speaker 6: eighty nine degrees. Like you do a whole lot with that.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's that's fair. This is a doozy. It's

2276
02:09:02,320 --> 02:09:04,600
Speaker 1: an interesting one. It's almost a landmark case to me

2277
02:09:05,400 --> 02:09:07,960
Speaker 1: because if you go out to eating a restaurant, you

2278
02:09:08,000 --> 02:09:10,600
Speaker 1: know you're eating hot sauce and you know it's built

2279
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Speaker 1: as hot sauce. Is there contributory negligence here at all? Shaite?

2280
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Speaker 1: I'm just talking out my butt here. I mean, seriously,

2281
02:09:19,080 --> 02:09:21,360
Speaker 1: you know what you're getting when you go there, Yeah, sauce.

2282
02:09:21,720 --> 02:09:25,360
Speaker 6: I agree there, But do you think about this. You're

2283
02:09:25,400 --> 02:09:28,480
Speaker 6: not buying lava, You're like, for instance, like when I

2284
02:09:28,480 --> 02:09:30,640
Speaker 6: get coffee, I'm not buying something that like, I know

2285
02:09:30,680 --> 02:09:32,360
Speaker 6: it's going to be hot, but it's not gonna be

2286
02:09:32,360 --> 02:09:35,160
Speaker 6: something that's so hot that I won't be able to

2287
02:09:35,200 --> 02:09:37,960
Speaker 6: drink it, you know what I mean? Like there is

2288
02:09:38,040 --> 02:09:42,160
Speaker 6: a point of like, Okay, this is a little crazy, but.

2289
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Speaker 1: I get it.

2290
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Speaker 6: I mean, this was kind of fifty three degrees over

2291
02:09:46,080 --> 02:09:49,160
Speaker 6: what it's supposed to be. Is a lot. I think

2292
02:09:49,160 --> 02:09:50,080
Speaker 6: that's a lot at least.

2293
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Speaker 1: All right, but good stuff, excellent, very good and good

2294
02:09:54,640 --> 02:09:57,440
Speaker 1: point by Mark Ramsey. I think that there's smart to

2295
02:09:57,480 --> 02:09:59,920
Speaker 1: that if you look at it. And I'd almost wonder

2296
02:10:00,200 --> 02:10:05,320
Speaker 1: if if in the if in the lawyer's arguments or

2297
02:10:05,360 --> 02:10:10,080
Speaker 1: summary they invoked that McDonald's situation. Right, you have a

2298
02:10:10,120 --> 02:10:12,320
Speaker 1: reason you don't have a reasonable expectation to get hurt

2299
02:10:12,360 --> 02:10:14,760
Speaker 1: if you're going out to eat, right, Yeah, the two

2300
02:10:14,800 --> 02:10:17,600
Speaker 1: point nine million in damages. You know, you can't just

2301
02:10:17,600 --> 02:10:20,000
Speaker 1: walk into a grocery store, slip on a piece of lettuce,

2302
02:10:20,600 --> 02:10:24,360
Speaker 1: fall down. You know you're Eddie Gazinski making forty two

2303
02:10:24,440 --> 02:10:26,440
Speaker 1: five at the local hardware store. Oh you're gonna sue

2304
02:10:26,480 --> 02:10:28,880
Speaker 1: you for ten million? No, it doesn't work that way.

2305
02:10:28,960 --> 02:10:31,120
Speaker 1: All right. You deserve to be made whole, but not

2306
02:10:31,640 --> 02:10:34,800
Speaker 1: you know, Disneyland for life. All right. That is going

2307
02:10:34,880 --> 02:10:37,560
Speaker 1: to conclude a more elongated version of What kind of

2308
02:10:37,560 --> 02:10:41,320
Speaker 1: brand New Fool You, which now allows us to segue

2309
02:10:41,360 --> 02:10:44,480
Speaker 1: into our second favorite bit that we lovingly call What

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Speaker 1: my Name? Here we go? All right? I recently became

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02:10:51,080 --> 02:10:54,840
Speaker 1: the fourth NFL coach in history to earn my three

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02:10:54,920 --> 02:10:59,240
Speaker 1: hundredth career victory, Mark Ramsey. What my name.

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Speaker 6: Is it?

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02:11:04,120 --> 02:11:07,040
Speaker 7: The coach from the Kansas City Chiefs.

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02:11:07,840 --> 02:11:09,360
Speaker 1: Yes it is. Do you have a name?

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02:11:13,760 --> 02:11:14,080
Speaker 6: Coach?

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02:11:15,000 --> 02:11:23,560
Speaker 1: Yes, it's coach. I love it marks on fire tonight. Yeah, yes,

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02:11:23,920 --> 02:11:26,080
Speaker 1: it's Andy Reid. And good on you because it just

2319
02:11:26,120 --> 02:11:27,640
Speaker 1: happened today. So you know, I like to threw a

2320
02:11:27,680 --> 02:11:31,080
Speaker 1: few zingers on there. But we are one for one

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02:11:31,240 --> 02:11:34,000
Speaker 1: heading into the rest of the brand new fool with

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02:11:34,120 --> 02:11:39,040
Speaker 1: my name? All right, I'm maybe a young coach, but

2323
02:11:39,160 --> 02:11:44,680
Speaker 1: I've made more playoff wins. All right, that's crappy English.

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02:11:45,040 --> 02:11:49,600
Speaker 1: I've accumulated more playoff wins than any NFL head coach

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02:11:50,360 --> 02:11:55,840
Speaker 1: in history under the age of forty Shane Mogguard what

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02:11:55,960 --> 02:11:56,360
Speaker 1: my name?

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Speaker 6: So most wins under the age of yep, under the

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02:12:03,600 --> 02:12:07,280
Speaker 6: age of forty. So it's not BALLI shack, it's not,

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Speaker 6: it's not Who is this?

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02:12:13,040 --> 02:12:15,640
Speaker 1: Give me a clue. He coaches a California team.

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02:12:16,000 --> 02:12:19,480
Speaker 6: He coaches a California team? And is he currently under

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02:12:19,480 --> 02:12:23,640
Speaker 6: the age of forty? Yeah? Se Sean McVay, Right, you

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02:12:23,720 --> 02:12:24,960
Speaker 6: got it, Yeah, you got it?

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Speaker 1: All right, guys, two for two. Let's move along. Before

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02:12:37,840 --> 02:12:43,360
Speaker 1: Jade and Daniels. I'm the last rookie quarterback to win

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02:12:43,400 --> 02:12:48,280
Speaker 1: a road playoff game. Mark Ramsey, what my name?

2337
02:12:51,320 --> 02:12:52,400
Speaker 6: Road play off?

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02:12:52,640 --> 02:12:55,480
Speaker 7: Road play off?

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02:12:55,720 --> 02:12:58,760
Speaker 1: I really talked about this last week. So Jade Daniels

2340
02:12:58,840 --> 02:13:02,120
Speaker 1: just did it. But it hadn't been done in twelve years,

2341
02:13:02,160 --> 02:13:04,280
Speaker 1: thirteen years and before.

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02:13:04,320 --> 02:13:06,480
Speaker 7: Nobody said they would be math and nobody said they

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02:13:06,480 --> 02:13:07,240
Speaker 7: would be math.

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02:13:08,680 --> 02:13:09,600
Speaker 6: I can't think of it.

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02:13:10,640 --> 02:13:12,400
Speaker 1: What do you mean nobody said there would be math?

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02:13:12,760 --> 02:13:13,280
Speaker 1: You lost me.

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02:13:13,440 --> 02:13:14,400
Speaker 6: I'm trying to make a joke.

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02:13:14,440 --> 02:13:21,200
Speaker 1: Sorry, I'm a bad audience sometimes. Here's the deal. Maybe

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02:13:21,200 --> 02:13:26,240
Speaker 1: I didn't pose the question very properly. Jane Daniels just

2350
02:13:26,280 --> 02:13:29,120
Speaker 1: want to He's not one two playoff games on the

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02:13:29,200 --> 02:13:32,280
Speaker 1: road as a Rickey quarterback before him, I was the

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02:13:32,360 --> 02:13:34,640
Speaker 1: last guy to do it. Here's a clue, Mark, I

2353
02:13:34,720 --> 02:13:40,320
Speaker 1: was a player in the NFC West. NFC West, Pete

2354
02:13:40,360 --> 02:13:45,440
Speaker 1: Carroll was the coach of the team.

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02:13:45,560 --> 02:13:47,360
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, say that. Say it again.

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02:13:48,280 --> 02:13:49,960
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll was the coach of the team. It was

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02:13:49,960 --> 02:13:52,120
Speaker 1: the NFC West, And I'm the last guy before Jade

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02:13:52,120 --> 02:13:54,840
Speaker 1: and Daniels as a rookie to win a playoff game

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02:13:54,840 --> 02:13:56,720
Speaker 1: on the road. Quarterback. What my name?

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02:13:56,880 --> 02:13:57,640
Speaker 6: Russell Wilson?

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02:13:57,760 --> 02:14:03,800
Speaker 1: You got it, but Russell Wilson. This one's also a

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02:14:03,840 --> 02:14:07,720
Speaker 1: doozy year. I'm the only quarterback in NFL history to

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02:14:07,800 --> 02:14:11,280
Speaker 1: actually throw more interceptions in one playoff game that I

2364
02:14:11,360 --> 02:14:14,480
Speaker 1: threw during the whole damn season, Shaite, what my name?

2365
02:14:14,880 --> 02:14:18,640
Speaker 6: But the only quarterback to throw more interceptions.

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02:14:18,360 --> 02:14:21,120
Speaker 1: In a single playoff game than I did the entire

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02:14:21,160 --> 02:14:23,000
Speaker 1: season cumulatively.

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02:14:22,640 --> 02:14:25,320
Speaker 6: That was that was that literally just happened.

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02:14:25,360 --> 02:14:27,360
Speaker 1: You got it? You got it?

2370
02:14:27,240 --> 02:14:30,480
Speaker 6: It was it was was it bo No, it.

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02:14:30,440 --> 02:14:33,200
Speaker 1: Wasn't the same first name as Bieber Bieber.

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02:14:33,640 --> 02:14:35,760
Speaker 6: Justin Herbert, Justin Herbert.

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02:14:35,840 --> 02:14:39,000
Speaker 1: Remember just did it? Last week we were talking about

2374
02:14:39,120 --> 02:14:40,640
Speaker 1: you went into the game, the playoff game.

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02:14:40,640 --> 02:14:41,760
Speaker 6: That was a bad game.

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02:14:42,040 --> 02:14:44,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. I still love the guy. I know Robert Griffin

2377
02:14:44,360 --> 02:14:46,120
Speaker 1: wants hisself to beat the crap out of him now.

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02:14:46,240 --> 02:14:47,320
Speaker 6: I turned my game off.

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02:14:48,120 --> 02:14:50,960
Speaker 1: It was a tough game. Tough game, man, But you're

2380
02:14:50,960 --> 02:14:53,560
Speaker 1: only thrown three picks all year and throws four in

2381
02:14:53,640 --> 02:14:58,480
Speaker 1: one game. All right, here's another doozy. Just got some

2382
02:14:58,600 --> 02:15:01,720
Speaker 1: classics this week. As an NFL head coach. I had

2383
02:15:01,760 --> 02:15:06,640
Speaker 1: the highest conversion rate on fourth down this season. Whopping

2384
02:15:06,680 --> 02:15:12,080
Speaker 1: eighty seven. Yep, Mark Ramsey, what my name? Give you

2385
02:15:12,120 --> 02:15:16,600
Speaker 1: a clue? He's still alive in the playoffs right now?

2386
02:15:18,600 --> 02:15:22,880
Speaker 1: Is it? For the former coach of the Atlanta Falcons Falcons?

2387
02:15:22,320 --> 02:15:24,760
Speaker 1: A former coach of the Atlanta Falcons.

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02:15:25,880 --> 02:15:31,520
Speaker 7: Former of the Atlanta Falcons coach, oh, I can't think

2389
02:15:31,560 --> 02:15:37,080
Speaker 7: of his name that he also coach for the Denver Broncos, not.

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02:15:37,000 --> 02:15:38,600
Speaker 1: The Broncos, but he was on the he was on

2391
02:15:38,640 --> 02:15:42,080
Speaker 1: the Cowboys staff. All right, I'm the NFL head coach

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02:15:42,760 --> 02:15:45,880
Speaker 1: with the highest conversion rate of fourth downs this year

2393
02:15:45,920 --> 02:15:49,560
Speaker 1: eighty seven. Uh shaye, what my.

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02:15:49,560 --> 02:15:53,160
Speaker 6: Name it's uh, it's dan Quinn, dan Quinn.

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02:15:53,240 --> 02:15:54,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, five in a row.

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02:15:56,840 --> 02:15:57,160
Speaker 4: All right.

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02:15:57,200 --> 02:15:59,200
Speaker 1: You've heard me say many times of the true mark

2398
02:15:59,240 --> 02:16:02,240
Speaker 1: up a quarterbacks, how do you do in the red zone?

2399
02:16:02,240 --> 02:16:03,680
Speaker 1: How do you do on third down? And how do

2400
02:16:03,720 --> 02:16:06,840
Speaker 1: you do in the fourth quarter? Well? In this season,

2401
02:16:06,880 --> 02:16:10,280
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty fourth season, I let all NFL quarterbacks

2402
02:16:10,280 --> 02:16:13,760
Speaker 1: with the number one passer rating in the fourth quarter?

2403
02:16:15,640 --> 02:16:17,040
Speaker 1: Mark Ramsey, what my name.

2404
02:16:18,480 --> 02:16:18,720
Speaker 6: Is it?

2405
02:16:18,800 --> 02:16:21,960
Speaker 1: Mahomes Not, that's a good guess, Not Packerck Maholmes.

2406
02:16:22,440 --> 02:16:22,880
Speaker 4: He is.

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02:16:23,080 --> 02:16:26,600
Speaker 1: Uh. He's still alive in the playoffs, though, I let

2408
02:16:26,640 --> 02:16:28,920
Speaker 1: all NFL quarterbacks with number one passer rating in the

2409
02:16:28,960 --> 02:16:33,400
Speaker 1: fourth quarter of the season. Shaite, what my name? Lamar?

2410
02:16:34,879 --> 02:16:35,440
Speaker 1: Not Lamar?

2411
02:16:37,320 --> 02:16:38,120
Speaker 6: Fourth quarter?

2412
02:16:38,240 --> 02:16:42,000
Speaker 1: Kalen Hurts What Yeah, in the fourth quarter of this year,

2413
02:16:42,040 --> 02:16:44,760
Speaker 1: he's number one passer rating when it matters, yep.

2414
02:16:44,720 --> 02:16:46,879
Speaker 6: I would have never guessed that he's I don't think I.

2415
02:16:46,800 --> 02:16:49,840
Speaker 1: Would have either, you know what. My wife made a suggestion.

2416
02:16:49,959 --> 02:16:51,760
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think this works on TV but

2417
02:16:51,800 --> 02:16:54,720
Speaker 1: not on radio. I want your guys both your honest opinion,

2418
02:16:55,200 --> 02:16:57,120
Speaker 1: because a couple of months ago started doing the clues.

2419
02:16:57,160 --> 02:16:59,080
Speaker 1: I think it spices things up a little bit. Yeah,

2420
02:16:59,080 --> 02:17:01,879
Speaker 1: I like the clod good banter. My wife thinks I

2421
02:17:01,920 --> 02:17:05,680
Speaker 1: had to say, like, Okay, pulls the question this way.

2422
02:17:06,600 --> 02:17:08,200
Speaker 1: I haven't bought into it yet, but I will if

2423
02:17:08,240 --> 02:17:10,680
Speaker 1: you guys want to. So you take the same question

2424
02:17:10,840 --> 02:17:13,600
Speaker 1: I just asked. I let all NFL quarterbacks with the

2425
02:17:13,680 --> 02:17:16,600
Speaker 1: number one passing rating passer rating in the fourth quarter

2426
02:17:16,640 --> 02:17:21,040
Speaker 1: of this past season? Am I a Russell? Or? Am

2427
02:17:21,080 --> 02:17:25,680
Speaker 1: I a Russell Wilson b Justin Herbert see Jalen Hurts.

2428
02:17:26,680 --> 02:17:28,840
Speaker 1: If I were to give you three choices like that, ABC,

2429
02:17:30,320 --> 02:17:31,560
Speaker 1: is that good for this game or not?

2430
02:17:32,000 --> 02:17:33,520
Speaker 6: That could be a little bit more fun. We could

2431
02:17:33,640 --> 02:17:36,320
Speaker 6: could be Mark, yeah.

2432
02:17:35,720 --> 02:17:37,200
Speaker 1: Okay, would you want me to? Okay, but they know

2433
02:17:37,240 --> 02:17:39,160
Speaker 1: what I'm going to implement it. Maybe maybe not on

2434
02:17:39,240 --> 02:17:41,680
Speaker 1: every question, but I'm going to implement it. Oyay.

2435
02:17:41,720 --> 02:17:43,440
Speaker 6: It doesn't have to be every question because at least

2436
02:17:43,480 --> 02:17:44,279
Speaker 6: we have choices.

2437
02:17:44,320 --> 02:17:46,959
Speaker 7: And if we could think of, oh, it's possibly that

2438
02:17:47,440 --> 02:17:49,200
Speaker 7: what's out hearing name, Oh it could be that fad

2439
02:17:49,320 --> 02:17:50,000
Speaker 7: that's fair.

2440
02:17:49,840 --> 02:17:52,240
Speaker 1: And that's fair. I'm willing to do it, and we

2441
02:17:52,280 --> 02:17:55,080
Speaker 1: will do it. I see that it works on TV

2442
02:17:55,240 --> 02:17:58,280
Speaker 1: when people could see it right, but on radio they

2443
02:17:58,400 --> 02:18:01,039
Speaker 1: start to melt melt together. That's notin only concerned. But

2444
02:18:01,080 --> 02:18:02,680
Speaker 1: we're gonna give it a whirl. Okay.

2445
02:18:02,520 --> 02:18:05,000
Speaker 7: The clues help because they're like Brad crimes. It'll lead

2446
02:18:05,080 --> 02:18:06,240
Speaker 7: you to the place.

2447
02:18:06,400 --> 02:18:10,280
Speaker 1: Right fair enough, but that's more than clues. That's one

2448
02:18:10,320 --> 02:18:11,960
Speaker 1: of them. Have to be right. So you could just write,

2449
02:18:12,000 --> 02:18:15,360
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna do it, Okay, I am going to

2450
02:18:15,440 --> 02:18:21,920
Speaker 1: do it. Currently, I'm the number one NFL quarterback in

2451
02:18:22,080 --> 02:18:26,800
Speaker 1: postseason rushing yards Shaye, what my name?

2452
02:18:27,720 --> 02:18:30,199
Speaker 6: Like like just this season.

2453
02:18:29,959 --> 02:18:35,360
Speaker 1: No career, I'm sorry, career postseason rushing yards. I'm number

2454
02:18:35,400 --> 02:18:39,080
Speaker 1: one in the NFL rusher more than anybody. Lamar.

2455
02:18:40,000 --> 02:18:41,840
Speaker 6: No, but he's not even He hasn't gone in the

2456
02:18:41,879 --> 02:18:46,440
Speaker 6: playoffs that often. So it's like, is it Lamar is.

2457
02:18:46,440 --> 02:18:48,440
Speaker 1: He I will here's the clue. He's a member of

2458
02:18:48,480 --> 02:18:50,960
Speaker 1: an AFC team and they're still in the playoffs.

2459
02:18:52,280 --> 02:18:55,440
Speaker 6: An AFC team, so that could be a Lamarston.

2460
02:18:55,959 --> 02:19:01,880
Speaker 1: Lamar, it's not Lamar Mark Ramsey what my name?

2461
02:19:04,560 --> 02:19:11,120
Speaker 6: So quarterback that runs around. We know it's not friend Tarktent.

2462
02:19:11,160 --> 02:19:12,119
Speaker 6: How about Josh Allen?

2463
02:19:13,080 --> 02:19:14,400
Speaker 1: It is, in fact Josh Allen.

2464
02:19:14,480 --> 02:19:16,640
Speaker 6: Understanding, great gass.

2465
02:19:17,280 --> 02:19:25,560
Speaker 1: Here's a kicker, Josh Allen maybe number one as far

2466
02:19:25,640 --> 02:19:30,600
Speaker 1: as career postseason rushing yards by a quarterback. But I'm

2467
02:19:30,680 --> 02:19:37,000
Speaker 1: number two and he only is leading me by seven yards? Shaite,

2468
02:19:37,040 --> 02:19:40,760
Speaker 1: What my name is it? My boy? Lamar? It is

2469
02:19:40,840 --> 02:19:47,680
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson? Faith off here in about fourteen hours.

2470
02:19:47,440 --> 02:19:49,840
Speaker 6: Thirteen hours, did you see that that did that thing?

2471
02:19:49,879 --> 02:19:54,160
Speaker 6: About like their first playing time in the NFL. They

2472
02:19:54,160 --> 02:19:55,280
Speaker 6: were playing against each other.

2473
02:19:56,160 --> 02:19:58,320
Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't know, I don't think so.

2474
02:19:58,720 --> 02:20:02,120
Speaker 6: The Ravens were blowing out out the Bills forty to zero.

2475
02:20:02,440 --> 02:20:03,640
Speaker 6: I think this was back.

2476
02:20:03,400 --> 02:20:04,879
Speaker 1: In like seven eight years ago.

2477
02:20:04,959 --> 02:20:07,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, I led their rookie year, and the Ravens were like,

2478
02:20:07,879 --> 02:20:10,120
Speaker 6: a let's throw, let's low Lamar and in the third

2479
02:20:10,640 --> 02:20:13,199
Speaker 6: and then they threw Josh Allen at the same time.

2480
02:20:13,400 --> 02:20:16,080
Speaker 6: It was a horrible game. They both threw for like

2481
02:20:16,280 --> 02:20:19,160
Speaker 6: under one hundred yards, no touchdowns, no interceptions. But just

2482
02:20:19,160 --> 02:20:20,280
Speaker 6: a little fun little facts.

2483
02:20:20,360 --> 02:20:24,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, cool, good stuff. All right? Last one, guys,

2484
02:20:25,360 --> 02:20:31,400
Speaker 1: last one. I'm the only coach in NFL history, who

2485
02:20:31,480 --> 02:20:36,120
Speaker 1: actually won fifteen games in a season and lost my

2486
02:20:36,200 --> 02:20:42,360
Speaker 1: first playoff game? Is it a Tom Landry, B. Dan

2487
02:20:42,480 --> 02:20:50,800
Speaker 1: Campbell or C Jimmy Johnson? See what my Name?

2488
02:20:56,360 --> 02:20:58,279
Speaker 7: I'm gonna go with Tom Landry.

2489
02:20:59,200 --> 02:21:02,640
Speaker 1: Oh, not to Landry, but I'm the only coach at

2490
02:21:02,720 --> 02:21:07,320
Speaker 1: NFL history to win fifteen games in the regular season

2491
02:21:07,440 --> 02:21:11,520
Speaker 1: and lose my first playoff game? Is it a Tom Landry, B?

2492
02:21:11,680 --> 02:21:13,240
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell, see Jimmy Johnson?

2493
02:21:14,000 --> 02:21:15,680
Speaker 6: That would be be it happened today?

2494
02:21:18,240 --> 02:21:21,520
Speaker 1: Campbell? Ye, all right, good stuff, guys. We will in

2495
02:21:21,560 --> 02:21:26,760
Speaker 1: fact dimplement the little ABC Michael Jackson. As you know,

2496
02:21:26,800 --> 02:21:30,720
Speaker 1: we like to evolve here right on the Bernie Fratto Show.

2497
02:21:30,720 --> 02:21:33,360
Speaker 1: Is that fair? And by the way, I hate when

2498
02:21:33,360 --> 02:21:35,160
Speaker 1: I speak in third person like that. If I do,

2499
02:21:35,360 --> 02:21:38,119
Speaker 1: just kick me in the junk. Okay, I hate when

2500
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Speaker 1: people talk that way. Good job, guys. Another rising edition

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Speaker 1: of the National Championship game Monday night. The keys that

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Speaker 1: would lead Ohio State to victory and the well, the

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Speaker 1: keys that might lead Notre Dame to victory. I'll share

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Speaker 3: It's all here in this report from the World of Soccer.

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Speaker 1: Bernie.

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02:23:26,760 --> 02:23:28,280
Speaker 2: We only have a few minutes with the world of

2527
02:23:28,320 --> 02:23:30,760
Speaker 2: soccer every week, and sometimes I have to make executive

2528
02:23:30,760 --> 02:23:33,400
Speaker 2: decisions about what goes into this. And there are some

2529
02:23:33,480 --> 02:23:36,959
Speaker 2: big stories to the sport itself, like Ivarcellia going to

2530
02:23:37,000 --> 02:23:40,160
Speaker 2: Parising Germain in the transfer window, probably their biggest pick

2531
02:23:40,280 --> 02:23:43,400
Speaker 2: up now they've had since you know, Letting killing himbape

2532
02:23:43,520 --> 02:23:45,720
Speaker 2: Go and something that could really revive interest in there.

2533
02:23:45,760 --> 02:23:48,240
Speaker 2: But no, we have to go to Italy. We have

2534
02:23:48,320 --> 02:23:50,600
Speaker 2: to talk about my favorite league in the world, Syria.

2535
02:23:51,000 --> 02:23:54,280
Speaker 2: And the reason why Italian soccer is my favorite in

2536
02:23:54,360 --> 02:23:57,119
Speaker 2: the world isn't always because of the play on the field.

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02:23:57,360 --> 02:24:02,560
Speaker 2: It's because of how bat bleep crazy Italy can be

2538
02:24:02,600 --> 02:24:06,039
Speaker 2: for its soccer culture and for its soccer teams. And

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02:24:06,080 --> 02:24:08,160
Speaker 2: when I tell you, I have a story that involves

2540
02:24:08,640 --> 02:24:15,600
Speaker 2: fascist dictators and saluting them, falconry a urologist summary, firings

2541
02:24:15,640 --> 02:24:19,840
Speaker 2: and locking yourself in team facilities and the president picking

2542
02:24:19,840 --> 02:24:24,000
Speaker 2: a fight with you. And this all starts over a

2543
02:24:24,760 --> 02:24:28,520
Speaker 2: raunchy social media post. Boy, do I have something for you?

2544
02:24:28,560 --> 02:24:32,039
Speaker 2: Because we are taking you to the club of problem children.

2545
02:24:32,400 --> 02:24:38,480
Speaker 2: Latziolazzio is having by Loatzio standards a fantastic season at

2546
02:24:38,520 --> 02:24:42,200
Speaker 2: eleven three and six. They stand right now fifth on

2547
02:24:42,280 --> 02:24:44,920
Speaker 2: the Siria table and they are playing and in my

2548
02:24:45,000 --> 02:24:48,200
Speaker 2: mind could easily get a top four finish. But that's

2549
02:24:48,200 --> 02:24:49,960
Speaker 2: not what we're concerned about. We're not concerned about anything

2550
02:24:49,959 --> 02:24:52,680
Speaker 2: with the team. What we're concerned about is the team's falconer.

2551
02:24:53,160 --> 02:24:56,640
Speaker 2: One one Bernabe, a big time fan of the club,

2552
02:24:56,920 --> 02:25:00,520
Speaker 2: a employee of the club, and the man respon reponsible

2553
02:25:00,680 --> 02:25:05,640
Speaker 2: for the pregame flyovers for the team Eagle. Now, the

2554
02:25:05,640 --> 02:25:07,800
Speaker 2: next part of this story is why I am glad

2555
02:25:07,840 --> 02:25:10,880
Speaker 2: this is appearing on Fox Sports Radio in Safe Harbor

2556
02:25:10,920 --> 02:25:13,720
Speaker 2: hours because we have to talk about what he was

2557
02:25:13,840 --> 02:25:17,320
Speaker 2: very proud to get. Working with the team doctor, Bernabay

2558
02:25:17,480 --> 02:25:24,400
Speaker 2: got himself a cosmetic enhancement to his manhood. He got

2559
02:25:24,440 --> 02:25:28,560
Speaker 2: an implant down there was it for any kind of

2560
02:25:29,240 --> 02:25:34,840
Speaker 2: medical necessity, No, it was there for cosmetic and I'm

2561
02:25:34,840 --> 02:25:36,800
Speaker 2: sorry I might have like rushed over this a little bit.

2562
02:25:36,840 --> 02:25:40,520
Speaker 2: It was performed by the team doctor for Lazio, who

2563
02:25:40,640 --> 02:25:44,320
Speaker 2: is a urologist. Bernabay was so proud of his new

2564
02:25:44,720 --> 02:25:48,560
Speaker 2: enhanced and longer boots that he shared images of it

2565
02:25:48,879 --> 02:25:51,680
Speaker 2: on X Multiple images of it it was on a

2566
02:25:51,720 --> 02:25:55,320
Speaker 2: private channel, meaning he said, according to Italian radio, that

2567
02:25:55,360 --> 02:25:58,199
Speaker 2: it was a private matter. Either way, these pictures made

2568
02:25:58,200 --> 02:26:01,120
Speaker 2: it out into the ecosystem, at which point the club

2569
02:26:01,280 --> 02:26:04,560
Speaker 2: learned about these images and fired Burnaby. They were appalled

2570
02:26:04,600 --> 02:26:07,520
Speaker 2: to see it and fired him immediately and fired the

2571
02:26:07,560 --> 02:26:12,840
Speaker 2: team doctor learning that they had performed this operation on Burnabay. Burnabay,

2572
02:26:12,879 --> 02:26:17,480
Speaker 2: who is still recovering from his enhancement, has decided to

2573
02:26:17,520 --> 02:26:21,480
Speaker 2: lock himself in the team facilities and refuses to acknowledge

2574
02:26:21,480 --> 02:26:24,199
Speaker 2: is that he has been sacked. This leads to multiple

2575
02:26:24,200 --> 02:26:29,000
Speaker 2: statements from the coach, from the team president denouncing Bernabay,

2576
02:26:29,120 --> 02:26:31,880
Speaker 2: denouncing the shame he has brought upon the club. Now,

2577
02:26:32,080 --> 02:26:34,480
Speaker 2: this is very funny because if you dive into Bernabey's

2578
02:26:34,520 --> 02:26:36,520
Speaker 2: past at all, you will find that this is not

2579
02:26:36,560 --> 02:26:38,520
Speaker 2: the first time he's been in trouble with the club,

2580
02:26:38,800 --> 02:26:41,240
Speaker 2: being suspended back in twenty twenty one, where he was

2581
02:26:41,240 --> 02:26:45,840
Speaker 2: caught on camera making a fascist salute at a game

2582
02:26:46,120 --> 02:26:49,680
Speaker 2: and saying that he admired Benito Mussolini because he did

2583
02:26:49,720 --> 02:26:52,720
Speaker 2: a lot of good things for Italy. Now you might think,

2584
02:26:52,959 --> 02:26:55,200
Speaker 2: how are you not leading with that, Chris, that you

2585
02:26:55,280 --> 02:27:00,599
Speaker 2: have a black shirt a fascist over this over a.

2586
02:27:00,800 --> 02:27:02,000
Speaker 6: Implant to his manho.

2587
02:27:02,120 --> 02:27:05,280
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you why, because a first off, it

2588
02:27:05,320 --> 02:27:07,720
Speaker 2: brings us to the next great point where the team

2589
02:27:07,760 --> 02:27:11,360
Speaker 2: president Claudio Lotito was then asked about this kind of

2590
02:27:11,360 --> 02:27:15,519
Speaker 2: thing and said that he will not forgive him over

2591
02:27:16,280 --> 02:27:20,360
Speaker 2: the pictures, and also that this was worse than saluting

2592
02:27:20,440 --> 02:27:24,520
Speaker 2: the old nineteen forties fascist dictator. Wesito then gave us

2593
02:27:24,560 --> 02:27:27,480
Speaker 2: this wonderful quote, perhaps the Roman salute is worse at

2594
02:27:27,520 --> 02:27:30,080
Speaker 2: your home, but not mine. And this is where we

2595
02:27:30,160 --> 02:27:34,560
Speaker 2: have to remind everyone that throwing up fascist salutes is

2596
02:27:34,760 --> 02:27:38,800
Speaker 2: normal at Lozio for their supporters. It happens all the

2597
02:27:38,959 --> 02:27:44,600
Speaker 2: damn time. We have fans, players, coaches who have yelled

2598
02:27:44,640 --> 02:27:48,039
Speaker 2: fascist slogans and thrown up fascist salutes in the past.

2599
02:27:48,200 --> 02:27:52,240
Speaker 2: Because this is the club of the black shirts. Lozio

2600
02:27:52,640 --> 02:27:55,840
Speaker 2: is the club of the fascists in Italy, of the

2601
02:27:55,879 --> 02:27:59,160
Speaker 2: people who thought Mussolini was a great man and not

2602
02:27:59,320 --> 02:28:02,960
Speaker 2: one of history the greatest monsters. So yes, the team

2603
02:28:03,160 --> 02:28:08,400
Speaker 2: falcon er throwing up fascist salutes does not register anything

2604
02:28:08,440 --> 02:28:13,280
Speaker 2: to Latsio, but getting an enhancement to your manhood absolutely

2605
02:28:13,360 --> 02:28:16,600
Speaker 2: that is grounds for firing and worse than worshiping Mussolini.

2606
02:28:16,640 --> 02:28:20,680
Speaker 2: Apparently this club is a cruel joke and it never

2607
02:28:20,720 --> 02:28:23,600
Speaker 2: seems to go away. That's it for World of Soccer, Bernie,

2608
02:28:23,640 --> 02:28:25,520
Speaker 2: I hope you love this story, because, man, this is

2609
02:28:25,520 --> 02:28:29,080
Speaker 2: the wildest thing I've seen in quite a few years.

2610
02:28:29,720 --> 02:28:34,040
Speaker 1: All Right, a very spirited world of soccer from Chris Purfett.

2611
02:28:35,120 --> 02:28:37,640
Speaker 1: That I give Chris poetic license to say what he wants,

2612
02:28:38,360 --> 02:28:41,560
Speaker 1: you know. News flash, and Musolini's been dead for about

2613
02:28:41,560 --> 02:28:45,600
Speaker 1: eighty years. Oh yeah, people have opinions. We're all paid

2614
02:28:45,600 --> 02:28:49,200
Speaker 1: to have opinions here at Fox Sports Radio. We don't

2615
02:28:49,200 --> 02:28:52,600
Speaker 1: always have necesarily have to agree with set opinions. That's

2616
02:28:52,640 --> 02:28:55,960
Speaker 1: what makes for a horse race. Comeing up, we wrap

2617
02:28:56,040 --> 02:29:02,240
Speaker 1: up the show, and you got a little football game

2618
02:29:03,280 --> 02:29:06,840
Speaker 1: on Monday night, Ohio State and Notre Dame. You know,

2619
02:29:08,360 --> 02:29:10,720
Speaker 1: for my money, this College FOOTBA playoff work. It's much

2620
02:29:10,760 --> 02:29:13,760
Speaker 1: better than it's been in the past. We were treated

2621
02:29:13,760 --> 02:29:15,920
Speaker 1: this year to eleven playoff games. We've had ten and

2622
02:29:16,040 --> 02:29:18,320
Speaker 1: ten and this is the eleventh as opposed to the

2623
02:29:18,320 --> 02:29:21,520
Speaker 1: four team made for TV Invitational tournament. This has been better.

2624
02:29:22,080 --> 02:29:26,720
Speaker 1: Should get massive ratings on Monday. I'm Bernie Fradle We're

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02:29:26,800 --> 02:29:29,000
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Speaker 1: All right, wrapping it up on the Bernie Fratle Show,

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02:29:37,280 --> 02:29:39,880
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02:29:39,920 --> 02:29:45,320
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Speaker 1: go any further, I want to think my broadcast team.

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02:29:47,160 --> 02:29:50,720
Speaker 1: They've been with me since eleven pm Pacific. They reside

2633
02:29:50,760 --> 02:29:56,680
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2634
02:29:57,200 --> 02:29:59,680
Speaker 1: turning all the dials, keeping us glued together, keeping the

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Speaker 1: train on the tracks, allowing everything to run smoothly. Good

2636
02:30:04,400 --> 02:30:07,720
Speaker 1: job tonight, Brand new fool, what my Name, and all

2637
02:30:07,760 --> 02:30:09,440
Speaker 1: of that good stuff. By the way, We'll be back

2638
02:30:09,480 --> 02:30:14,840
Speaker 1: on these airwaves next Friday night at eleven pm Pacific time,

2639
02:30:15,480 --> 02:30:20,640
Speaker 1: heading into the AFC NFC Championships and of course plenty

2640
02:30:20,640 --> 02:30:24,600
Speaker 1: of new sports stories. By the way. Also shortly after

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Speaker 1: You'll see this show posted right after we get off

2648
02:30:48,200 --> 02:30:51,400
Speaker 1: the air. All right, Ohio State Notre Dame Monday Night,

2649
02:30:53,240 --> 02:30:58,760
Speaker 1: a storied matchup two storied franchises currently then spread. Ohio

2650
02:30:58,840 --> 02:31:00,840
Speaker 1: States laying eight and a half, the total is about

2651
02:31:00,840 --> 02:31:05,120
Speaker 1: forty six, and there's there's been some pretty good two

2652
02:31:05,120 --> 02:31:08,440
Speaker 1: way action come in on this. So what will it

2653
02:31:08,480 --> 02:31:13,160
Speaker 1: take for Ohio State to win? Real simple? Don't mess around.

2654
02:31:13,800 --> 02:31:16,720
Speaker 1: Just open up the passing game through Jeremiah Smith and

2655
02:31:16,760 --> 02:31:19,200
Speaker 1: Amika Abuba, just like you have in your first three

2656
02:31:19,200 --> 02:31:22,760
Speaker 1: playoff games. When You've managed to score forty two, forty one,

2657
02:31:23,160 --> 02:31:26,360
Speaker 1: twenty eight points in each of those games, and I've

2658
02:31:26,400 --> 02:31:31,840
Speaker 1: scored your opponent by cumulatively fifty nine points. Will Howard's

2659
02:31:31,840 --> 02:31:37,080
Speaker 1: throwing for over two hundred and eighty yards in each contest. Secondly,

2660
02:31:38,440 --> 02:31:41,840
Speaker 1: get your defense to take over so that large advantage

2661
02:31:41,840 --> 02:31:44,879
Speaker 1: can be built up. Now, the Buckeyes have a pretty

2662
02:31:44,879 --> 02:31:48,760
Speaker 1: good pass rush, Jack Sawyer, J T. Two Molow. They've

2663
02:31:48,760 --> 02:31:51,879
Speaker 1: held all three opponents they've played the twenty one points

2664
02:31:51,959 --> 02:31:54,720
Speaker 1: or less. Now the twenty one point concession of Oregon

2665
02:31:55,400 --> 02:31:58,200
Speaker 1: is a little misleading. You only scored eight points Oregon.

2666
02:31:58,240 --> 02:32:01,280
Speaker 1: They held Oregon eight points in the first half. See.

2667
02:32:01,320 --> 02:32:03,160
Speaker 1: The thing is, Ohio State's found a way to shut

2668
02:32:03,240 --> 02:32:07,280
Speaker 1: down the strengths of each op opposing offense because if

2669
02:32:07,560 --> 02:32:11,920
Speaker 1: they take away their best asset in Bill Belichick style,

2670
02:32:12,840 --> 02:32:15,200
Speaker 1: So if you take away Riley Leonard and Jeremiah Love

2671
02:32:15,240 --> 02:32:18,080
Speaker 1: and the rushing attack, I think Notre Dame's in for

2672
02:32:18,120 --> 02:32:20,600
Speaker 1: a hell of the long night because their passing attack

2673
02:32:20,680 --> 02:32:25,920
Speaker 1: is average. It just is. Now. I get that Jeremiah

2674
02:32:25,959 --> 02:32:28,800
Speaker 1: Smith wasn't a big factor against Texas because they double

2675
02:32:28,840 --> 02:32:31,760
Speaker 1: teamed him. They doubled him, they put him in a bracket.

2676
02:32:31,760 --> 02:32:34,320
Speaker 1: They put them and they were plastering them. Will Howard

2677
02:32:34,320 --> 02:32:37,440
Speaker 1: still found a way to exploit the Longhart secondary through

2678
02:32:37,520 --> 02:32:39,720
Speaker 1: Carnel Taate and the Buga. You get the point. And

2679
02:32:39,800 --> 02:32:42,400
Speaker 1: let's also not forget the two headed monster with three

2680
02:32:42,400 --> 02:32:46,600
Speaker 1: Avon Henderson and Quincheawn Jenkins. They're superb. But if Ohio

2681
02:32:46,640 --> 02:32:51,359
Speaker 1: State wins by margin, it'll be because of the aerial prowess.

2682
02:32:52,600 --> 02:32:54,960
Speaker 1: I have a lot of respect for Notre Dame, but

2683
02:32:55,000 --> 02:32:57,039
Speaker 1: I think this is a bad matchup for them, I

2684
02:32:57,120 --> 02:33:00,360
Speaker 1: really do. Does Notre Dame have a path to victory? Sure,

2685
02:33:00,920 --> 02:33:04,360
Speaker 1: there have been many times in college football where I

2686
02:33:04,400 --> 02:33:07,520
Speaker 1: mean take Penn State in Miami back in eighty seven,

2687
02:33:08,040 --> 02:33:11,200
Speaker 1: that was supposed to be a wipeout. Penn State shocked them.

2688
02:33:11,800 --> 02:33:14,879
Speaker 1: Here's the kicker. Notre Dame's offense thrives on the ground.

2689
02:33:15,840 --> 02:33:19,400
Speaker 1: Riley Leonard's legs have been a massive asset to Notre

2690
02:33:19,480 --> 02:33:23,320
Speaker 1: Dame because they're an offense that relies also on running backs,

2691
02:33:24,080 --> 02:33:27,680
Speaker 1: and they're running back Jeremiah Love. He's really been the lynchpin.

2692
02:33:27,800 --> 02:33:32,160
Speaker 1: He's not one hundred percent though, but Leonard can on

2693
02:33:32,240 --> 02:33:36,440
Speaker 1: occasion be a difference maker with his arm because when

2694
02:33:36,440 --> 02:33:39,400
Speaker 1: they beat Penn State in the Orange Bowl, he did

2695
02:33:39,400 --> 02:33:43,240
Speaker 1: throw for two hundred and twenty three yards, but he'd

2696
02:33:43,320 --> 02:33:45,640
Speaker 1: only had more than two hundred and twenty yards once

2697
02:33:45,680 --> 02:33:48,360
Speaker 1: in the entire regular season. So Notre Dame is really

2698
02:33:48,360 --> 02:33:51,640
Speaker 1: a run first team. And Notre Dame's receivers they're not

2699
02:33:51,760 --> 02:33:56,840
Speaker 1: anywhere near as elite as Smith and Abuca. But listen,

2700
02:33:57,160 --> 02:34:01,640
Speaker 1: Jordan Faison is a talent aid in greathouse. These guys

2701
02:34:01,680 --> 02:34:04,640
Speaker 1: are above average, but when you look at their rob trees,

2702
02:34:05,120 --> 02:34:07,080
Speaker 1: you look at the way their passing game sets up.

2703
02:34:07,120 --> 02:34:10,440
Speaker 1: It's not good. It's not a prototypical passing game. They

2704
02:34:10,480 --> 02:34:12,320
Speaker 1: also have a pretty good tight end, Mitchell Elevens. He

2705
02:34:12,360 --> 02:34:14,800
Speaker 1: could be a good factor on offense. He had five

2706
02:34:14,879 --> 02:34:17,360
Speaker 1: He caught five balls against Penn State for sixty yards.

2707
02:34:17,800 --> 02:34:20,720
Speaker 1: But here's the problem. Defensively, Notre Dame has to figure

2708
02:34:20,720 --> 02:34:24,760
Speaker 1: out which poison they want to drink. What do they

2709
02:34:24,800 --> 02:34:29,000
Speaker 1: do when it comes to putting speed bumps in Ohio

2710
02:34:29,000 --> 02:34:34,040
Speaker 1: State's offense. You know, Texas said we're going to eliminate

2711
02:34:34,120 --> 02:34:38,240
Speaker 1: Jeremiah Smith, and they did essentially at one catch. They

2712
02:34:38,280 --> 02:34:42,160
Speaker 1: double teamed him, they plastered him, they bracketed them, and

2713
02:34:42,200 --> 02:34:45,200
Speaker 1: that enabled the other two receivers to have a big day.

2714
02:34:45,640 --> 02:34:48,080
Speaker 1: They still got burned. Notre Dame likes to play a

2715
02:34:48,120 --> 02:34:50,440
Speaker 1: lot of man too. They're gonna They've said they're gonna

2716
02:34:50,440 --> 02:34:52,600
Speaker 1: live by the sword, die by the sword. They believe

2717
02:34:52,600 --> 02:34:55,560
Speaker 1: in their physicality, they believe in their athleticism, and I

2718
02:34:55,560 --> 02:34:58,640
Speaker 1: believe that's the approach they they'll take. Whether or not

2719
02:34:58,760 --> 02:35:00,920
Speaker 1: that comes back to by them, We're gonna find out

2720
02:35:02,200 --> 02:35:06,440
Speaker 1: the way I see it, though. Honestly, Ohio State's got

2721
02:35:06,440 --> 02:35:09,800
Speaker 1: a collection of talent that's been way too much for

2722
02:35:09,920 --> 02:35:12,360
Speaker 1: any of their playoff opponents to handle. They have the

2723
02:35:12,360 --> 02:35:16,600
Speaker 1: best roster in college football and they showed it. And

2724
02:35:16,680 --> 02:35:19,000
Speaker 1: ever since the Michigan coming out party, and I know

2725
02:35:19,080 --> 02:35:21,920
Speaker 1: people want to try to say that that loss fired

2726
02:35:22,000 --> 02:35:23,720
Speaker 1: him up and caused them to regroup and all that.

2727
02:35:24,000 --> 02:35:26,920
Speaker 1: I don't believe there's any such thing as a good loss.

2728
02:35:27,240 --> 02:35:30,960
Speaker 1: That's like a good kidney stone. Now that Lostpayre may

2729
02:35:31,000 --> 02:35:32,440
Speaker 1: not have fired him up, but I think it insert

2730
02:35:32,480 --> 02:35:35,160
Speaker 1: of doubt and all it did was talk about will

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Speaker 1: Ryan Howard, will Ryan Day be fired? Which was ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: He was never gonna get fired. They're not going to

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Speaker 1: piss away next year's recruiting class and run the risk

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Speaker 1: of having key players in a team leave. He could

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Speaker 1: have lost to Tennessee by ten in Game one. He

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Speaker 1: would not have been fired. Might have been ugly going

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Speaker 1: into next year, might have been uncomfortable. You might have

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Speaker 1: the proverbial hot seat, But what does that mean fired? No.

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Speaker 1: I think if Ohio State would have rolled Michigan or

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Speaker 1: beat Mischigon, they still be having to the same success

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Speaker 1: they are now because they have a collection of talent

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Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball with playmakers up and

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Speaker 1: down the line across the board that no one can handle.

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Speaker 1: If Ohio State brings their a game, if Jeremiah Smith

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Speaker 1: is even more involved on Monday than he was against Texas,

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Speaker 1: you have the potential for this to be a twenty

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Speaker 1: point win for Ohio State. Now, Notre Dame does have

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Speaker 1: an offensive identity and it sticks to it, but they're

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Speaker 1: gonna have to and if the Notre Dame's not built

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Speaker 1: to play from behind, if they get two scores behind,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna run the ball. They have enough firepower, but

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Speaker 1: not the kind of firepower that Ohio State has. They

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Speaker 1: cannot match Ohio State score for score the same way

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Speaker 1: that Washington did against Detroit. And by the way, Notre

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Speaker 1: Dame's defense can be had. If USC's offense can put

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Speaker 1: up five hundred dards against them, then Ohio State can

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Speaker 1: do that as well. What do I see the game.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna call it Ohio State twenty seven fourteen. It'll

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Speaker 1: be a fistfight and booth for a while, and then

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Speaker 1: Ohio State will start to stretch the field. Great season

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Speaker 1: for both teams. We'll all be watching. I'll see on

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Speaker 1: the airwaves next Friday Night, eleven pm, The Bernie Friday Show,

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Speaker 1: and meantime keep it locked up next to great Andy Furman.

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