Speaker 1: What's up?
Speaker 2: You're off in God's Country We also known is Will
Speaker 2: also known as the Brothers Hunt, where we take a
Speaker 2: weekly drive to the intersection of country music and the
Speaker 2: great outdoors, two things to go together, like fast cars
Speaker 2: in freedom or rolling in putts and having a tempo.
Speaker 2: Tempo and your brain.
Speaker 3: He taught me about that today is to stick around
Speaker 3: listen to that, and maybe your putting gets better from
Speaker 3: listening to this podcast, and.
Speaker 1: Your handicap drops and you're better off of this point pressure.
Speaker 1: It is brought to you.
Speaker 2: By meat eater Neil Thrasher, one of my favorite dudes
Speaker 2: in Nashville singing, Oh my Goodness, has wrote a million
Speaker 2: Rascal Flats hits. Because he sounds just like a galic Ox.
Speaker 2: Sounds like him, I should say, think so too. Tells
Speaker 2: an awesome turkey story when he lived down in Leaper's Fort,
Speaker 2: had some land down there. Turns a great turkey story.
Speaker 2: You're gonna want to stick around for that. It's kind
Speaker 2: of like his gavorite hunting story.
Speaker 1: That's right. That's a good one.
Speaker 2: Good one also gives kind of the the behind the
Speaker 2: scenes curtain pullback of his recent hit smash Try that
Speaker 2: in a small town, which he started a podcast over.
Speaker 1: It's kind of blown up.
Speaker 2: Bro did it at the inoperation. Jason just did it
Speaker 2: at the inauguration in the road. Dunda must have been
Speaker 2: crazy in there for that one. But you're gonna want
Speaker 2: to you want to stick around for that does a
Speaker 2: killer medley at the end for his favorite of a
Speaker 2: song he wrote, and then a song he pairs it with.
Speaker 2: I didn't see it coming, man, and when it came out.
Speaker 1: Of Have you ever played a show with him?
Speaker 2: I played one. We played that, uh that benefit And
Speaker 2: as I think he did it there, he did it
Speaker 2: there I remember him doing I just didn't. It's so
Speaker 2: it just caught me by surprise again and it's blows
Speaker 2: my mind at what key he plays it in and
Speaker 2: how he gets up there.
Speaker 3: Guy's a killer, He's a KPO killer. He's gonna he's
Speaker 3: gonna ko up. We got roasted again. We got roasted.
Speaker 1: Yes, I can't wait.
Speaker 2: And it's a good one.
Speaker 1: Love getting roasted.
Speaker 3: This one's a little sweet. He didn't go to too mean. Uh,
Speaker 3: actually it's really nice now that I'm looking at it.
Speaker 2: Joe Rogan. The title of this is from Jay Duskin.
Speaker 2: Any ideas dusk.
Speaker 3: Neither Joe Rogan meets the trailer part boys. Uh oh,
Speaker 3: Probably my favorite pod going TBH. A couple of nice
Speaker 3: couple of nice little you know, yeah, what are those called?
Speaker 2: No, it's kind of like innu windows. What is that
Speaker 2: one there?
Speaker 1: I'll get roasted for that.
Speaker 3: Probably my favorite pod going TBH. All gas, no breaks.
Speaker 3: It's like the most concussed version of Billy Bob from
Speaker 3: Varsity Blues grew up and convinced Luke Combs and Steve
Speaker 3: Vanella to put a beer fridge in the garage. Pull
Speaker 3: yourself up a cooler and sit Pull yourself up a
Speaker 3: cooler to sit on and listen to Sammy Kershaw on
Speaker 3: eleven between trail cam photos and Turkey gobbles.
Speaker 2: A lot of information in there, yeah, the guys, I mean,
Speaker 2: here's paints a nice little picture. Here's what I take
Speaker 2: away from from this.
Speaker 3: First off. It wasn't that mean, so thanks for that,
Speaker 3: but you know, yeah, but it was, it was it
Speaker 3: was slighted. Yeah, but this guy is a listener. This
Speaker 3: guy has listened to a lot. He is dropping clues,
Speaker 3: some blues clues in there, you know, because we always
Speaker 3: talking about Sammy Kershaw, always like he dropped him in
Speaker 3: there Turkey Gobbles. There's obviously the Luke Comms reference.
Speaker 1: I never watched Duskin, did you watch Barshi Blues a
Speaker 1: long time ago?
Speaker 2: I never watched it.
Speaker 1: I think it's like a really good movie. I think
Speaker 1: we should probably.
Speaker 2: Go back and watch. It's a series, right, No, it's
Speaker 2: a movie. Greatest movies of all time. It's very questionable.
Speaker 2: One of is still questions. It was kind of cult
Speaker 2: following type show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a good one though.
Speaker 3: Thanks for not being too mean but kind of not
Speaker 3: liking this, but liking this a whole lot, Jay Duskin.
Speaker 1: Hey, does any does does anybody ever come up to
Speaker 1: you and you're like, dude, I love that story you
Speaker 1: told on the so and so podcast with so and so,
Speaker 1: and you have no clue what they're talking about.
Speaker 2: I don't even have a clue what you're talking about
Speaker 2: right now, Like if somebody came it to you, like
Speaker 2: they're like, dude, what about that time on what podcast?
Speaker 1: What about that time hardy?
Speaker 2: Oh when someone else listener comes up and they're like,
Speaker 2: what about that time hardy Man? Not solid guess because
Speaker 2: that was a big one, but like all like random
Speaker 2: story throughout the podcast, throughout the seventy podcast that we've done,
Speaker 2: I think I can't remember them. I think it's an
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 3: What what you the listener doesn't understand is by the
Speaker 3: time you're hearing this, we've probably already cut two more and.
Speaker 2: Have like.
Speaker 1: Informational information.
Speaker 3: You have to uh, it's not download. What is it
Speaker 3: when you put information on another drive?
Speaker 2: Offload?
Speaker 1: Offload when you have to offload.
Speaker 3: The podcast as they come and go, So you can't
Speaker 3: keep up with the current with what the listener's hearing
Speaker 3: because you're already two or three episodes in advance. All
Speaker 3: that to say, please keep coming up to us and
Speaker 3: asking us if we remember.
Speaker 1: And if we say if we say no, just yeah,
Speaker 1: just tell us what happened.
Speaker 3: Hey, I got I've been getting approached lately about the podcast.
Speaker 3: I was sending Donald's the other day and this guy
Speaker 3: comes up. He's like I could see it on his face,
Speaker 3: like the way people sometimes look at Luke when we
Speaker 3: were Luke. He was like, hey man, you Dan is
Speaker 3: well come. I was like, yeah, man, he was like,
Speaker 3: I just want to tell you all love the podcast.
Speaker 3: I was like, hey man, thanks for coming up to me.
Speaker 3: He was like we listened to every episode. Man, I
Speaker 3: was like, bro, thanks, man, that means like it's happened
Speaker 3: three or four times now from the podcast.
Speaker 2: I had a lot of people at Duck Camp. Yeah,
Speaker 2: last night, I think the I think the words getting out.
Speaker 2: They were cool, like they listened to every episode. They
Speaker 2: were dropping like funny things that had happened, like I
Speaker 2: was just talked about and I didn't know about. But
Speaker 2: they were like, you know remember yeah, man, I mean
Speaker 2: it's cool, It's we just ass man. We talked so much.
Speaker 1: I can't believe people like it.
Speaker 2: I can't believe. I can't believe people watch or listen
Speaker 2: to every episode. But hey, we appreciate it. Keep on
Speaker 2: doing it, keep sending it to your friends, keep sharing it,
Speaker 2: keep following us on Facebook and YouTube and TikTok. We
Speaker 2: back coming up to me and random outdoor stores. Man,
Speaker 2: that's right. We love to hear it. Keep roasting us.
Speaker 2: Five stars might get shout out on this on this pod.
Speaker 2: Keep listening.
Speaker 1: Appreciate y'all.
Speaker 2: We'll enjoy Nol Thrasher burn Good.
Speaker 1: We are Speed, Green Light Go.
Speaker 2: We got former lead singer of Thrasher Shiver the rock band.
Speaker 2: I said, big deer killing. Just got back from a
Speaker 2: hunting trip in Louisiana. Dude, we're middle of January. Jealous
Speaker 2: of that, jealous of that down there right now?
Speaker 4: Yoh yeah.
Speaker 2: As CAP Songwriter of the Year, Turkey Colin Alabama boy
Speaker 2: written over eleven number one songs, Give me some of
Speaker 2: that money.
Speaker 3: They're monsters too. They're not like they're not like a
Speaker 3: little passive number ones.
Speaker 1: Including some of your favorites.
Speaker 2: We will touch on here in a little bit, co
Speaker 2: host of the Try That in a Small Town podcast. Man,
Speaker 2: we got our great buddy, mister Neil Thrasher out in
Speaker 2: Guy's Country, Will's Today.
Speaker 4: He's a golfer too. Hey, okay, y'all do this at
Speaker 4: night because we got kids. It took me fourteen hours.
Speaker 1: To get here from you call it the same. That's
Speaker 1: why you beat me here, dude. What's up with you?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 2: What you've been doing?
Speaker 4: I've been doing what you guys have been doing, grinding, grinding.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I probably don't write.
Speaker 4: As much as you guys do anymore.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 2: We kind of pulled the old e break a little bit.
Speaker 3: Really, I mean, I still I probably I guess I
Speaker 3: am averaging probably four times a week at this point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I used I used to not I but now
Speaker 2: I'm writing four times a week.
Speaker 1: I mean you would say you're writing four times a week.
Speaker 3: Bro, looking at our schedule. I got to be out
Speaker 3: of here today to do it. You got today, You're
Speaker 3: working today?
Speaker 2: No, of course not.
Speaker 4: Well I might, but I'm gonna go back home. I'm
Speaker 4: gonna go back home and write because I zoom right
Speaker 4: now and COVID was the best thing that ever happened
Speaker 4: to me.
Speaker 2: I love zoom riting.
Speaker 1: When you got over eleven. Number one is you can
Speaker 1: do whatever you want to do too.
Speaker 3: Well, especially those dude, did you read them there?
Speaker 2: I couldn't listen to that one. I skipped that. That's
Speaker 2: the only one I skipped.
Speaker 4: I had to sing that at one of my daughter's
Speaker 4: graduations to.
Speaker 1: Get through it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got through it, but I got sick when
Speaker 4: I got the call that day. And when I say sick,
Speaker 4: I mean I got nauseated when I got the phone
Speaker 4: call that they wanted me to sing that. Because Brett
Speaker 4: James's daughter and my daughter in the same grade and
Speaker 4: they were both graduating, he and I both had to sing.
Speaker 4: They asked him to sing Jesus take the wheel. And
Speaker 4: then they asked me to do there Goes my.
Speaker 1: Life and and.
Speaker 4: I was like, oh no. Sometimes it's hard enough to
Speaker 4: do that song, you know, in certain situations. But at
Speaker 4: a graduation you got all these caps and gowns.
Speaker 1: And parents and the yeah, and I'm like.
Speaker 4: Oh no, I don't know if I can do this.
Speaker 4: I don't know if I can make it through it.
Speaker 2: Yeah I did, Yeah, of course you did. You're a
Speaker 2: pro dude, whatever, you are pro all right, So go
Speaker 2: back to COVID. Code's the best thing to happen to you,
Speaker 2: just to just to make you slow down a little bit,
Speaker 2: no zoom writing. Oh, just that I didn't have to
Speaker 2: come into town anymore. That was there was a time
Speaker 2: when I look forward to coming into town. Sure, but
Speaker 2: I con't know that I've ever had a time where
Speaker 2: I looked forward coming into town ever ever since I've.
Speaker 3: Been here, ever, just because I don't feel like I'm built.
Speaker 3: I'm not Nashville built, and you're I mean you're not either.
Speaker 2: No, yeah, but I mean when you get here though,
Speaker 2: like you Yeah, it's shiny right, Yeah.
Speaker 4: You got new rights, you got new co writes. People
Speaker 4: you've never written with and you look forward to it.
Speaker 2: I remember those you don't know it yet, yeah, and
Speaker 2: then you then you know it after some years yeah,
Speaker 2: and some songs, and then it gets a little it's
Speaker 2: different now, it becomes different.
Speaker 4: Zoom. I love it. Thank you, COVID. It's the only
Speaker 4: good thing about you.
Speaker 2: I love it too. I agree with that.
Speaker 1: I love it too.
Speaker 2: You don't.
Speaker 3: We have a love hate relationship with COVID because everybody
Speaker 3: was real mad at it.
Speaker 2: But all we did was Turkey hunt every day. The
Speaker 2: Turkey hunted every day of season. Absolutely remember what started that?
Speaker 2: Because Turkey Season, I mean March and April was the
Speaker 2: first of it, right, so like nobody, nobody's even zooming,
Speaker 2: nobody's even working trying to figure it out because they're like, oh,
Speaker 2: let's just take a couple of months, a month, a
Speaker 2: couple of months off and we'll jump back on the
Speaker 2: horse in the summer, and then here you go. You
Speaker 2: get into you know, eight and ten months of it.
Speaker 2: But but Turkey Season was out up front of it,
Speaker 2: where literally there was you couldn't go anywhere the world
Speaker 2: was shut down, so where you could could you go
Speaker 2: to the woods? Crazy?
Speaker 4: Absolutely, there's probably more Turkey Hunt and going on. If
Speaker 4: that time he was, I was moving into a new
Speaker 4: house when Covid. I remember that April, we're moving in.
Speaker 2: So I had a lot going moving in down there, Yeah,
Speaker 2: in College Grove, and so I had a lot going on.
Speaker 1: You probably played a lot of time, a bunch of
Speaker 1: golf too.
Speaker 4: Oh we played. We played so much golf. I my
Speaker 4: handicap went down two strokes.
Speaker 1: I bet every day.
Speaker 2: I guarantee, I bet you played everything. I mean, I
Speaker 2: would have you know. Uh, the first time we first
Speaker 2: time we met Neil was was at the Massioak. Was
Speaker 2: that the first time we met, when we played that tournament.
Speaker 1: That's first time I met him.
Speaker 2: I'm better since.
Speaker 4: Then, are you?
Speaker 2: Yeah? He got many kids.
Speaker 4: You get three, it'll get it'll get worse.
Speaker 3: I know my wife's barred me clubs for like Christmas
Speaker 3: and stuff, and I ain't even swung them.
Speaker 2: You know, there ain't no time for nothing.
Speaker 4: That makes no sense. You get three little ones in
Speaker 4: your wife's buying you golf clubs, and that may be
Speaker 4: a signal.
Speaker 1: And not letting you go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, not let But we were I don't know if
Speaker 2: you remember this, we were down there and uh, That
Speaker 2: was a special week for me and Dan, especially me
Speaker 2: because as we were playing all we were playing that scramble,
Speaker 2: we got the news that Kind of Love We Make
Speaker 2: was going number one and it was my first number
Speaker 2: one is Dan's third. I remember that, and we were
Speaker 2: so pumped man, and Neil was so pumped for us.
Speaker 2: And I still I still tell the story, but uh
Speaker 2: we uh. He was like, man, congratulations, dude, that's so great.
Speaker 2: That's so great, man. And I was like, thanks, buddy.
Speaker 2: He was like, hey, man, He's like listen, He's like,
Speaker 2: I ain't taking nothing away from you. He was like,
Speaker 2: but back in the nineties, all you needed was one
Speaker 2: more and you could retire.
Speaker 1: He was like, that way, no more of me, dog.
Speaker 1: I remember him say, I didn't say one more.
Speaker 4: I probably said yeah.
Speaker 2: I think he said a couple more.
Speaker 3: I do remember you saying this back in the day,
Speaker 3: if you had a hit, if you had a record
Speaker 3: that came out, and you had a hit on the
Speaker 3: record and like four or five cuts on the record,
Speaker 3: that you would be looking at a mega chunk.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, you mean, what just happened to me?
Speaker 2: I'm not even close. You're like, I mean, well, it was.
Speaker 4: It was one of the it was back in the day.
Speaker 4: It was like when when my run with Raph Flats
Speaker 4: and Jason al Dean all that was kicking in and
Speaker 4: those guys were selling three and four million records and
Speaker 4: if you had three or four or five songs on
Speaker 4: each record, I mean, you're you're it's pretty good. You
Speaker 4: got a pretty decent catalog to sell. It's made a
Speaker 4: lot of money. You did good on mechanicals. You can
Speaker 4: you know, if you're smart with your money, you can
Speaker 4: live off of that stuff for the rest of your
Speaker 4: life if you're smart. And we were so blessed to
Speaker 4: be to hit our lick when that was going on.
Speaker 2: When you say, Williams have basically you and Wendell.
Speaker 4: Me and Windele and me and Michael Delaney had a
Speaker 4: bunch together all.
Speaker 2: That today and he's looking at that who wrote them?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, so I mean over the years, you know,
Speaker 4: because my run with the with the Flats has been
Speaker 4: going on since two thousand and we had I probably
Speaker 4: had over fifty songs cut by those guys and being
Speaker 4: on and having four or five on each record back
Speaker 4: when they were selling top of the game too. Yeah, yep,
Speaker 4: when they're getting ready to do it again. Yeah, And
Speaker 4: I called that. Gary told me. LeVaux said, you're out
Speaker 4: of your mind if you think I'm going back on
Speaker 4: the road. And I said, you wait, And this was
Speaker 4: like a year and a half, two years ago. I said,
Speaker 4: I said, no, it's it's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: Why Why did you think because he has to have it.
Speaker 4: No band in history has been as big as they
Speaker 4: are and never not going back out on the road
Speaker 4: at some point. Yeah, the fan base is too big.
Speaker 4: You have to do it for the fans.
Speaker 2: Right, And there's probably two I would imagine if that's
Speaker 2: your life for so long, especially at that level, Like
Speaker 2: I mean, anytime you go out on the roads to grind,
Speaker 2: but like they're not, they're not. That's not really hard
Speaker 2: at that point, like like your time away from home.
Speaker 2: But but your buses, you're you're in and you're out.
Speaker 2: Your planes you're in and you're out. So it's fun, right,
Speaker 2: And and that happened. There was a run of years
Speaker 2: for them that where they're at the top of the game.
Speaker 2: It feels like if if it was that for you
Speaker 2: and you get and you and you and you hang
Speaker 2: up the you know, you hang the cleats up on it.
Speaker 2: At some point down the road, you're gonna want to
Speaker 2: get back in it just a little bit, like you
Speaker 2: missed it a little bit.
Speaker 4: I was that I was on the verge of like, Okay,
Speaker 4: I told Landa, my wife. I said, I'm gonna slow
Speaker 4: it down and we'll do so I'll do some writer
Speaker 4: shows and whatnot here and there, and just but we're
Speaker 4: we're okay, and I'm just gonna kind of just coast
Speaker 4: a little bit. And then freaking, you know, Lovelace comes
Speaker 4: in with try that in a small town and I'm like,
Speaker 4: we wrote that, and I was like, nobody's.
Speaker 1: Gonna cut that.
Speaker 4: And I was on the verge of just shutting it down.
Speaker 4: I was gonna semi retire. Yeah, you just kind of
Speaker 4: coast a little bit, and he freak. We wrote that
Speaker 4: and back up brought it, you know, and got with
Speaker 4: Tolly and Kurt, and of course al Dean couldn't wait
Speaker 4: to put it out. It was the timing of that
Speaker 4: thing was just, you know, it was dumb. And then
Speaker 4: that kind of got me back in the game. Now
Speaker 4: signed over there with al Dean and now I'm writing again.
Speaker 2: In the game. We'll touch on that later, we like
Speaker 2: to do a little start off, a little segment called
Speaker 2: what You're mad at?
Speaker 1: Neil?
Speaker 4: What am I mad at?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: You gotta think about it.
Speaker 4: What y'all got a awful.
Speaker 5: Mad Just tell us what it is? What you're mad at?
Speaker 2: Is it you're in lost kids, my being boss, me
Speaker 2: or your neighbors cat?
Speaker 5: Just tell us what mad.
Speaker 4: Him?
Speaker 2: I try to try to give nil. How y'all get that,
Speaker 2: Loucis early That's amazing. I've been up to fight with
Speaker 2: I've been okay, Yeah, I've been. I've been about since
Speaker 2: about two thirty fIF fifteen.
Speaker 4: What am I mad at?
Speaker 2: What am I mad at? What do you can be?
Speaker 1: Where do you can be glad? You can be glad to.
Speaker 2: You can be glad or something if you want to.
Speaker 4: I have I've had to work on mattitude because I
Speaker 4: get mad at a lot of things. I was telling
Speaker 4: y'all earlier. We have this segment on our podcast where
Speaker 4: it's thrash talk, and it just kind of happens when
Speaker 4: it happens and I'll start ranting. Man, I was just like,
Speaker 4: I have to I have to really be caring.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm mad at? I'm mad at people?
Speaker 2: That say.
Speaker 3: When they're like, oh, you know, what's up with you?
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, man, just you know, trying to trying
Speaker 3: to write songs, trying to get back in the gym
Speaker 3: a little bit. And they're like, oh man, getting back
Speaker 3: in the gym. Yeah, they're like, don't you love how
Speaker 3: you feel after you work out? I hate when people
Speaker 3: feel good. I hate when people say, don't you feel
Speaker 3: good after you because I don't.
Speaker 2: I feel tired.
Speaker 3: My shoulder hurts and I'm tired the rest of the day.
Speaker 2: So I don't feel great. Because you're lifting weights, Dude,
Speaker 2: you ain't got no business lifting weights.
Speaker 4: Maybe you're trying to lift too much. I mean, if
Speaker 4: you just if you do more reps.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not because I'm weak as well water right now.
Speaker 3: So there's no way I'm lifting too much weight because
Speaker 3: there ain't.
Speaker 2: Much weight on there.
Speaker 1: Weight lifting.
Speaker 2: I like, I like lifting. I would rather do that.
Speaker 2: I would rather do that. See mine mine has to
Speaker 2: do with working out too. My my watching mad at.
Speaker 2: I Uh, I'm a Brent Wad. I'm a Brentwood mom. Dude,
Speaker 2: Brintwad together, Brentwater. I'm in there working out with Brent
Speaker 2: One moms spring Hill moms. I guess if you work
Speaker 2: out and you're a punk in Brentwood or Watt.
Speaker 4: It ain't about working out for you, is it.
Speaker 1: No, because it is it. It's what it is. It
Speaker 1: is hot works, right.
Speaker 2: So there's eight saunas in this place and they get
Speaker 2: up to one hundred and thirty degrees and you can
Speaker 2: do the row machine. You can go in there and
Speaker 2: do free weight sent them, you can do yoga, you
Speaker 2: can do I do the elliptical. So my routine is
Speaker 2: I'll get up, you know, early in the morning, get
Speaker 2: my better call saw on my telephone and I'll set
Speaker 2: it in front of me in the sauna. I'll turn
Speaker 2: the video all the way down and I'll sit there
Speaker 2: and I'll do the elliptical for thirty minutes and one
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty degree sauna awesome. I do feel amazing
Speaker 2: when I get done with that. It sucks you're in
Speaker 2: the middle of it, but I feel awesome when I
Speaker 2: walk out of that place. So that's my that's my
Speaker 2: routine by myself. And you can go online and you
Speaker 2: book your classes and you can see if anybody is
Speaker 2: booked for that time.
Speaker 1: So usually I try to find spots where nobody is.
Speaker 2: Never had a time where somebody came in with me
Speaker 2: in the in the sun, this little cramped up room,
Speaker 2: this eight by eight room, eight by eight, it's tiny.
Speaker 2: I got deer boxes bigger than that.
Speaker 1: It's small.
Speaker 2: And so the other morning I get in there, wait
Speaker 2: for the person to come out, her times blocked on
Speaker 2: the sheet. She comes out, How you doing good to
Speaker 2: see it ain't nobody. There's one other person in the
Speaker 2: whole spot I wait for to come out, get my phone,
Speaker 2: put up their better costs all, turn it up, turn
Speaker 2: the video down, start pumping. Door opens, And I was
Speaker 2: like what She's like, Oh sorry that I thought I
Speaker 2: just jump in here with you, not book the cla
Speaker 2: didn't book it on the sheet. Didn't just thought she
Speaker 2: might get a little hot work session in while Oh okay,
Speaker 2: it just and now I got to turn better Costs
Speaker 2: all off, and I got to sit there for thirty
Speaker 2: minutes in silence and think about how much I don't
Speaker 2: want to be there now, because, like, and I'm watching a.
Speaker 1: TV show, it goes by fast.
Speaker 2: But if you're just sitting there working out and you're
Speaker 2: thinking about working out, then I'm just thinking about how much.
Speaker 2: I don't want to be working out, but you keep
Speaker 2: going back.
Speaker 4: Yeah, hot wives, I mean hot works, Brentwood, but you
Speaker 4: keep going back and working out anyway.
Speaker 2: Brent, because here's I don't neil. I don't care about
Speaker 2: being hot, dude. I just want to I just want
Speaker 2: to put days of my life.
Speaker 4: I don't know what am I mad at. I stay
Speaker 4: mad at some things, but it doesn't last long. I
Speaker 4: don't want to. I don't get furious at anything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sometimes it's big, sometimes it's yesterday. Mine was shampoo
Speaker 3: conditioner bottle looking.
Speaker 4: I mean I can get I can. I could go
Speaker 4: off on things that I'm mad at, but I don't
Speaker 4: want to get political.
Speaker 2: Let's go viral, lg B LGB.
Speaker 1: Let's go viral.
Speaker 2: Why not, right right?
Speaker 4: No, I don't want y'all get red flag like COVID.
Speaker 2: Dude, Let's go viral. Good lord, oh man, I wouldn't
Speaker 2: be mad if I was you either, thrash. You've written
Speaker 2: some huge songs. You live on an awesome golf course,
Speaker 2: great family. Hit it at my putting right now. I
Speaker 2: am mad at that golf. I go through I go
Speaker 2: through putting phases. I've got to pass so many putters.
Speaker 1: Now, have you dabbled in the lab yet?
Speaker 4: No, I've putted with one and messed with it, but
Speaker 4: I have. I have dabbled with it, but I haven't
Speaker 4: put one in my back.
Speaker 2: What is the lab? It's the new putting craze. Dude,
Speaker 2: Lie Angle Lab, Lie Angle whatever. Ballistics.
Speaker 1: Yeah, whatever the balance, Lie angle balance.
Speaker 4: They feel good. But you know, I'm a field player,
Speaker 4: so it's like I have to. It has to be
Speaker 4: the least amount of weight I can have down there
Speaker 4: where I can just feel the club head and feel
Speaker 4: the weight better.
Speaker 1: I don't like getting technical on my putting.
Speaker 2: I don't like either. I don't like stepping it off.
Speaker 2: I don't like like, oh, I'm going to go ten
Speaker 2: o'clock a seventy percent. I can't do that when I
Speaker 2: put I want to feel like I'm shooting basketball, Like
Speaker 2: I want to this the same, the same like you
Speaker 2: don't know how far you are from that goal, You're
Speaker 2: just feel right, you're just feeling it out and and dude,
Speaker 2: and it's the same thing in basketball, right, like when
Speaker 2: you're stroking, you're stroking and you get hitting everything. I
Speaker 2: feel like I'm the same. I'm a I'm a very
Speaker 2: very hot or cold putter. Yeah, I'm not a good putter.
Speaker 2: I'm just a I'm just a streaky putter.
Speaker 4: You're supposed to be instinctive. This could turn it into
Speaker 4: like a golf that's all right podcast for this morning.
Speaker 1: I could go thrash, can play.
Speaker 2: I've played with you cats before. I know how this goes.
Speaker 1: So what let's let's get it. Let's talk about putting
Speaker 1: for a little bit.
Speaker 4: What do you?
Speaker 1: What do you?
Speaker 2: Why are you mad at your putter?
Speaker 4: That's just because I can't settle on one thing. I
Speaker 4: get mad, and usually when I get mad at my
Speaker 4: golf game, it gets better. I got better at golf
Speaker 4: when I got mad at my game.
Speaker 2: What's your like when you're putting bad or you're yeah,
Speaker 2: let's go putting. When you're putting bad? What what's the
Speaker 2: first thing you do?
Speaker 4: When I'm putting bad? The first thing I do I
Speaker 4: start looking at the hole and start doing drills and
Speaker 4: field drills, and I don't look at the ball, look
Speaker 4: at the hole, okay, And I'll do those drills for
Speaker 4: an hour.
Speaker 2: Just feel feeling it, feeling it, seeing it go in
Speaker 2: the hole.
Speaker 4: And I won't even look down at the ball, I'll
Speaker 4: be looking and I'll put not looking at the ball. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and it pure every time. Yeah, it's weird and it's
Speaker 4: weird how the brain works in golf.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't. I can't.
Speaker 2: I've always heard swing the putter and just let the ball, like,
Speaker 2: let the ball be there, don't hit the ball, let
Speaker 2: the ball get in the way. This is an interesting conversation.
Speaker 2: I get that.
Speaker 3: I like, you told me something the other day that
Speaker 3: helped my punt button completely, like changed just one little thing.
Speaker 2: And it was that.
Speaker 3: When you within four feet instead of like coming all
Speaker 3: the way back, you just you want to go ten.
Speaker 2: Is that what you said? What was the thing?
Speaker 1: Yeah, short, long, short, long on short putts too.
Speaker 3: That I mean that probably saved me four strokes that round,
Speaker 3: just that little tiny So, like, what's your you know,
Speaker 3: if you're telling a guy how to putt, how do
Speaker 3: you how are you telling the putt?
Speaker 4: There's no reason why guys who are who are talented
Speaker 4: musically and athletically have some semblance of an athletic ability.
Speaker 4: There's no reason why they shouldn't be decent golfers simply
Speaker 4: because of the rhythm and the tempo. I mean, they
Speaker 4: have apps on your phone. You can get on your phone,
Speaker 4: you know, metronome maps and things like that. You can
Speaker 4: lay them by your ball and get rhythmic with everything.
Speaker 4: From the time you look at the ball, get behind it,
Speaker 4: to look at your line. Everything should be a rhythm
Speaker 4: and be oh. Absolutely, you walk up tempo, you walk
Speaker 4: up to that tempo, You get behind the ball to
Speaker 4: that tempo, put your putter behind the ball to that tempo.
Speaker 4: You put to that tempo. Wow, and it's it works.
Speaker 4: It's unbelievable how good it works.
Speaker 1: Huh.
Speaker 3: You get me off on this, But well, I mean,
Speaker 3: how do I'm telling you, I'm curious, how do I
Speaker 3: how do I figure out what that tempo.
Speaker 4: Without getting technical? And you start it starts becoming more
Speaker 4: musical and more becomes a dance.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 4: And everything you do in golf when you step into
Speaker 4: that bubble and step into that square and it's time
Speaker 4: to hit a shot, it's in your head when you're
Speaker 4: done shooting the ship with your boys on the t
Speaker 4: box and it's time to step in that box. It
Speaker 4: should that's when it should start.
Speaker 6: Huh.
Speaker 4: And nobody will know what's going on in your brain.
Speaker 4: And it's going on and you will find fair ways.
Speaker 4: You will hit greens even in your short game. When
Speaker 4: you miss greens. That when you step into that box
Speaker 4: and you're chipping or you're putting to that, can you
Speaker 4: find your number. Everybody's got a different number.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it could be the speed of the right everybody's
Speaker 2: got a different tempo because it's not sporadic at that point.
Speaker 1: Right, So it's controlled. Yeesh, it's in. It's within a meter.
Speaker 2: It's amazing how good it works.
Speaker 4: Unbelieving is that.
Speaker 3: When people say tempo, are they talking about that? Yes,
Speaker 3: I thought they were talking about the speed of your swing.
Speaker 4: It is, but it's got to be in rhythm too.
Speaker 4: It's got to it's got to have a certain tempo.
Speaker 4: Like you'll you'll talk to it. You'll see some players
Speaker 4: giving if you if you YouTube, are googled tempo and golf,
Speaker 4: and you see some of these tour players. They all
Speaker 4: have their number like.
Speaker 1: Like twenty three seven, Yeah, eighteen eight.
Speaker 4: Or or just or just or just sixty four or whatever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what that's your magic number.
Speaker 3: And that determines when you start your back swing, where
Speaker 3: you end your back swing, where you click.
Speaker 7: With the ball.
Speaker 2: The whole thing Wow, dude, that's mind. I've never I've.
Speaker 4: Never know that. It's amazing, how good it works. Your
Speaker 4: game's gonna be money.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: When you start using.
Speaker 2: Your and usually and usually you slow it down like
Speaker 2: you never tempo. Don't want to speed up on your
Speaker 2: golf swing. You want to you want to get it
Speaker 2: almost where it's uncomfortably slow. Okay, it's easy to do
Speaker 2: with a putter.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this, if you were to put
Speaker 3: a song to your tempo, because I feel like mom
Speaker 3: would be well life when the bars kind of led
Speaker 3: back because I don't know what's happening, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. But if you were to put if you
Speaker 3: were to put your tempo to a song when you
Speaker 3: walk up to the ball, what song is it? What
Speaker 3: could you play to that tempo?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 1: He's a how country feels guy?
Speaker 4: I have a video I have a cooked and it
Speaker 4: could be that. It could be that, but I have
Speaker 4: a actually have a video at Sawgrass at TPC Sawgrass
Speaker 4: and we're playing in a tournament.
Speaker 2: Out there that Kentucky. Oh my god, i'mna slap you
Speaker 2: in the fen. Just shut up. Where's it that we're
Speaker 2: not cutting that TPC Sawgrass player Championship seventeen. Cool, we'll
Speaker 2: get back, We'll talk Kentucky.
Speaker 4: But it was on number seventeen on the on the
Speaker 4: island green real famous.
Speaker 2: Hole and most famous.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and any any any guy, any songwriter, a musician
Speaker 4: that came up to the T box that the host
Speaker 4: would put on a song that you wrote while you're
Speaker 4: playing in bank It no, but but they put on
Speaker 4: try that in a small town when as I was
Speaker 4: driving up and they cranked and it was it was,
Speaker 4: you know, shut about somebody on the side, and it's
Speaker 4: and it's freaking blaring across that lake. And I've got
Speaker 4: video of it. And when they introduced me and did
Speaker 4: all that, I stepped up and I fell into that song.
Speaker 4: I just fell into the rhythm of it. And that
Speaker 4: was eight feet Yeah. I swung to the tempo with
Speaker 4: that song.
Speaker 1: You missed the putt?
Speaker 4: Yes, damn. I was hoping you wouldn't ask me that
Speaker 4: I wanted to burn. I've played seventeen a bunch and
Speaker 4: knocked it close, and I have not burned it yet.
Speaker 2: Oh man, that's super cool. Okay, See, that's exactly what
Speaker 2: I'm talking about.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 3: There's probably some novice golfers out there that just learn
Speaker 3: about tempo.
Speaker 2: I had no idea. I'd literally never heard.
Speaker 4: If you bring up golfing huntings and I'm gonna sit
Speaker 4: up in the chair and start talking.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's all we talk about.
Speaker 4: Music is all we do. You know, we talk about
Speaker 4: it and we do it all the time.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go for scratch this year. I'm gonna try
Speaker 1: to get it down.
Speaker 4: It's all short game now, yeah, yeah, because I know
Speaker 4: how far you hit it and how good you hit it,
Speaker 4: because I've played with you and you hit it really
Speaker 4: well and you hit it straight. Yeah, you vomit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just gotta I gotta cut strokes down around
Speaker 2: the green.
Speaker 1: It's what it's about.
Speaker 4: Really.
Speaker 3: I think I'd like to shoot in the seventies this year.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm trying to do, just like seventy nine.
Speaker 3: Whatever I'll try. I wish I could just go around
Speaker 3: do that. It's hard to do.
Speaker 4: You go hang with meteroll Zell for.
Speaker 1: A little while.
Speaker 2: No doubt that guy's good. Give us a little recap
Speaker 2: of your deer season, be dog. You just got back
Speaker 2: from Louisiana.
Speaker 4: Yep, I killed a big old deer in October on
Speaker 4: Gary La Vaux's place here we were shooting coals inside
Speaker 4: his high fence.
Speaker 2: Nice, yeah, congratulations.
Speaker 1: Isn't it fun having a rich artist? Friends?
Speaker 4: I sold him four hundred and forty of mine because
Speaker 4: my my farm was right next to his. And when
Speaker 4: he decided to put a high fence up, he was
Speaker 4: gonna have to run it through one of his bottoms.
Speaker 4: And that's that's tree trouble and limb trouble all the time.
Speaker 4: And one day I was just joking around. I said,
Speaker 4: won't you buy from BlackBerry Road east from me so
Speaker 4: you can run your fence and make a perfect square.
Speaker 4: And I was kind of just kidding, but I told
Speaker 4: that to his brother and his brother and called me
Speaker 4: like to his later, Hey, are you serious about that?
Speaker 4: Like no, maybe, I don't know. I wound up selling
Speaker 4: everything on that road. And then he ran his fence
Speaker 4: and made a perfect square.
Speaker 1: Why not? I mean he hunted probably whenever you want to.
Speaker 4: He's got like thirteen hundred acres or something inside the fence. Anyway,
Speaker 4: we there was like a list of bucks that needed
Speaker 4: to go. They were old, yeah, needed to come out
Speaker 4: of there. So I shot one of those, was the
Speaker 4: biggest seven point but killed my life.
Speaker 1: It was a giant.
Speaker 2: I love a big seven. I shot a big seven
Speaker 2: this year.
Speaker 4: Yeah, huge deer.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So that that's the only deer I killed this year.
Speaker 4: And I went after some more. And I just got
Speaker 4: back from Louisiana. I go down there every year. Good buddy,
Speaker 4: Mine's got an island down there, next to Giles Island.
Speaker 4: It's in Louisiana, but it's across the river from nationals Sssissippi.
Speaker 1: And so you're like boating it and you boating it
Speaker 1: to it.
Speaker 4: No, we don't have to. He built up he built
Speaker 4: when he bought the place twenty something years ago. He
Speaker 4: built it like a two hundred year flood road from
Speaker 4: the main levee out to the island.
Speaker 2: Oh not nice.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's it's crazy. I mean, I've seen deer
Speaker 4: out there swim the Mississippi. I've seen I've we've we've
Speaker 4: seen wounded deer jump into river. Yeah, go all the
Speaker 4: way across, swim two point one miles all the way
Speaker 4: across and coming out on the bank.
Speaker 1: And that just mississippidness.
Speaker 4: We've seen it happen. Those deer, the deer unbelievable. People
Speaker 4: don't realize that these deer swim the Mississippi River on
Speaker 4: a regular basis because they want to, not because they
Speaker 4: were wounded or whatever. They'll go back and forth just
Speaker 4: to get back home.
Speaker 2: Missippi State Deer Labor or whatever did a did a study.
Speaker 2: Put a collar buck on on Giles Island and uh
Speaker 2: and just wash his patterns. And he would every year
Speaker 2: would swim the Mississippi in summer, try farm in inland, yep.
Speaker 2: And then when it was time to go rut and
Speaker 2: go go winter somewhere, he would swim the Mississippi and
Speaker 2: live on Jiles Island for the rut and for the winter,
Speaker 2: and then swim it back.
Speaker 1: And that was this pattern.
Speaker 4: That's just funny, you said, Joles Island. The biggest deer
Speaker 4: ever killed on the Rifle Point or period was a
Speaker 4: Giles Island deer. It was when when the original owners
Speaker 4: of Giles Island had it. He was like one of
Speaker 4: the high dollar deer that they had.
Speaker 1: They swam it.
Speaker 4: No, he came when the river started coming up, because
Speaker 4: Giles Island and Rife appointed right next to each other,
Speaker 4: and when the river started comes up, it fills up
Speaker 4: all the lowlands and pushes all the deer to the
Speaker 4: high highest ground around so and this deer came off
Speaker 4: of Giles and probably swam or went across a little
Speaker 4: shoot of the old Mississippi River. They't no water in
Speaker 4: this room and came up there. I was just there
Speaker 4: at the right time. How big was How big was he?
Speaker 4: It's a tent A clean ten point was one hundred
Speaker 4: and seventy six ags.
Speaker 2: To clean ten y'all see this turns sound up.
Speaker 4: Those delta deer can get some believe they're crazy, man,
Speaker 4: and they're huge, three hundred pounds before I've seen that. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I've seen that. I've never seen that. One guys in
Speaker 4: a bass bone. That turkey is under like a submarine,
Speaker 4: and gossip, you swim, I've seen there.
Speaker 1: You know what body of water that is?
Speaker 2: You see? All right, let's.
Speaker 1: Yes, alarm putting.
Speaker 2: It looks great swimming.
Speaker 4: I've seen him swim, but I've never seen I've never
Speaker 4: seen it in that deep of waters. Goblin and goblin.
Speaker 2: It doesn't savora.
Speaker 4: Oh man, it's probably down there somewhere because it's crazy
Speaker 4: down yea. The animals racked there there, they're wild.
Speaker 3: One of the replies is I'd have to have to
Speaker 3: give him a ride to Greece.
Speaker 1: Yeah, take that one out. What was uh, what was?
Speaker 1: What was hunting in the outdoors? Like for you growing up?
Speaker 4: Are you from Alabama? Just south just below Birmingham.
Speaker 1: Okay, like right off sixty five.
Speaker 4: Birmingham is kind of off of two eighty more to
Speaker 4: eighty Shelby County. Yeah, I was in Jefferson County. That's
Speaker 4: where I grew up, went to high school. But Shelby
Speaker 4: County is where I grew up on my grandparents place
Speaker 4: where I learned all everything there was to learn about
Speaker 4: hunting and fishing. Down there in Shelby County. We had
Speaker 4: a we had a like a fifteen acre lake that
Speaker 4: was in the family, been in the family for years
Speaker 4: down in the country, and and uh, me and my
Speaker 4: cousins and everybody, we learned how to fish there and
Speaker 4: learned how to hunt there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yep.
Speaker 4: So I learned how to shoot a gun from my grandfather.
Speaker 4: On my mom's side. All my music came from my
Speaker 4: dad's side, and all my outdoor stuff came from my
Speaker 4: mom's side. Even though my mom's dad he sang with
Speaker 4: Gene Autry back in the day, so it was on
Speaker 4: both sides. Yep.
Speaker 2: As as dads of kids. And I know you've got
Speaker 2: two girls. Did you ever, like, did you ever get
Speaker 2: them out with you? Did they? Did they?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Did they ever hunt with you? Yeah?
Speaker 4: They've both killed deer with bows?
Speaker 1: Oh really, yep.
Speaker 4: I got them going early on the on the archery
Speaker 4: thing when they were when they got old enough to
Speaker 4: pull one back. They shot deer with guns and stuff early,
Speaker 4: But when they got strong enough to pull one back,
Speaker 4: that would that would fling a narrow fast enough to
Speaker 4: kill a deer. They I got, I had them doing it,
Speaker 4: and they both did.
Speaker 1: How do you because I want mine to?
Speaker 2: I mean, I got little girl two years old, little
Speaker 2: boy a year old, and I want them to hunt
Speaker 2: so bad. Like I've got them toy guns at home,
Speaker 2: and we we like I'm the deer and they're shooting
Speaker 2: me and stuff. How do you do it without forcing
Speaker 2: it on them? Do you just?
Speaker 1: You just do it and your love of it will
Speaker 1: draw them in.
Speaker 4: Or take them. Yeah, you'll get them, you'll get it.
Speaker 4: You'll get a good indication early. Yeah, you know whether
Speaker 4: they love it or not. But once they once they
Speaker 4: see deer start coming out in the food plot, nine
Speaker 4: times out of ten, their bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, true. You know, yeah, when.
Speaker 4: You got them in a box or in the ground
Speaker 4: bine or whatever and they see deer start coming out, Yeah,
Speaker 4: they get fascinated, just like we did.
Speaker 3: What about the gun situation though, as far as like
Speaker 3: loud and it being intimidating, how do you curve that?
Speaker 3: Like to kids? You know, that's that's the most usually
Speaker 3: the thing. It's like, oh then I'm too young now.
Speaker 1: You just put a suppresser on it.
Speaker 4: Last Yeah, yeah, yeah, we didn't have I didn't use
Speaker 4: ear text when I.
Speaker 2: I was telling Atlanta this morning when I woke.
Speaker 4: Up, I was like, man, my tonight is just bad.
Speaker 1: This morning.
Speaker 4: It's just constant white noise. Y'all have that?
Speaker 2: Mine is the mind ring all mine.
Speaker 4: Just sounds like white noise.
Speaker 2: And yeah, you know it's like electric.
Speaker 1: You don't even need to sleep. The sleep machine you got,
Speaker 1: you got it in there.
Speaker 4: It's what I have to have something going.
Speaker 2: So, I mean, dude, you're you're probably like, I mean,
Speaker 2: our dad was shooting rabbits three feet from our head.
Speaker 2: That's exactly right.
Speaker 1: I mean not even where are you at? And we're right.
Speaker 3: Knowledge that, But I mean you put on top of
Speaker 3: that twenty years of having a crash symbol six feet
Speaker 3: from your head.
Speaker 2: That too, I mean that, dude.
Speaker 4: The music and the guns, oh my god. When we
Speaker 4: were young, we didn't worry. We didn't have anything about
Speaker 4: we didn't know anything of your protection.
Speaker 3: I didn't care, I swear to this day. The other
Speaker 3: day I was rocking. I was rocking my kid to sleep,
Speaker 3: and uh, Sean does that. Honestly, she's pretty good about
Speaker 3: doing that. But sometimes I got to take it her,
Speaker 3: you know. So she she gave me the baby and
Speaker 3: I was in there rocking, and I swear I could
Speaker 3: I felt like I was in because you know, it's
Speaker 3: a black room and the doors are all closed and
Speaker 3: it's all dark in there, and I felt like I
Speaker 3: was in a green room of one of those shitty clubs.
Speaker 2: And I could hear Steve Miller band playing.
Speaker 3: I wasn't even there, but I've spent so many times
Speaker 3: in those rooms, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I could hear people call me space. It was like
Speaker 2: muffled am I. Oh man. That's when you know you
Speaker 2: spent way too much time in those clas.
Speaker 4: That's a fact. I'll tell you what did me in
Speaker 4: with with my left side and this it stays like
Speaker 4: it feels like I got water in it all the time.
Speaker 4: But what did me in I was I was turkey
Speaker 4: hunting with a buddy, Paul King, who has that island
Speaker 4: Extra Giles down in Louisiana. We were we were turkey
Speaker 4: hunting and it was just an unfortunate situation. We're walking.
Speaker 4: He's walking here and I'm walking here, and we're like
Speaker 4: fifty yards from this ridge. It goes straight up and
Speaker 4: he went, there's a big old goll or just hit one,
Speaker 4: just hammered right there. And I'm like, we had to
Speaker 4: sit down exactly because there was two trees right here.
Speaker 4: I said, we had to sit down immediately because he
Speaker 4: was so close, and it's like boom. We sat down,
Speaker 4: and when we sat down, his barrel was right here.
Speaker 4: It was right I'm I'm.
Speaker 2: Not kidding into right here.
Speaker 4: And I go, oh my god, this is I mean,
Speaker 4: I'm fixing to lose my hearing forever.
Speaker 2: But it's gone.
Speaker 4: But I took one for the team. I mean, there's
Speaker 4: a gobbler there, he's coming up twice. Here come four
Speaker 4: hens and here he come around the corner right behind him,
Speaker 4: and I just I just I just went to look
Speaker 4: at God and when he shot, it was like slow
Speaker 4: motion and then it was like in the world disappeared
Speaker 4: and I couldn't hear shit it was and I just
Speaker 4: just laid my head back. He killed the bird and
Speaker 4: we high five, but I was in pain. It was bad.
Speaker 4: And it's never been the same since.
Speaker 1: That's close.
Speaker 2: That's close. My new move is, yeah, you see me,
Speaker 2: I did it last year if I mean, it's.
Speaker 4: But I couldn't do that. I wanted to because the
Speaker 4: hens were right here, five feet from it.
Speaker 2: Coming home and done, I risk it. I like to
Speaker 2: ask people this, Neil, if if you had one day
Speaker 2: to do whatever you wanted to do, where, oh where? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Like so turkey hunt is turkey hunt. That's over golf
Speaker 2: and everything right where where? If you had one day
Speaker 2: and you want there's nowhere bad.
Speaker 3: Let me say this. I know how much you love
Speaker 3: to golf. How much more do you love to turkey
Speaker 3: hunt than golf?
Speaker 4: Turkey hunt is just like you only get so much
Speaker 4: of it. You know, it's not a it's such a
Speaker 4: seasonal thing. Sure, and they take they keep taking days
Speaker 4: away from it. Yeah, and that's why you because you
Speaker 4: look so forward to because you know, you're only limited
Speaker 4: on your time, So that's why I love it. But
Speaker 4: the memories that I've made with turkey hunt, the heartbeat
Speaker 4: that I've got, the heartbeat and the heart rate that
Speaker 4: I get from turkey hunting. You know, you you know
Speaker 4: what it feels like like when you shot that big
Speaker 4: deer in Kansas. You remember what that felt? Oh yeah,
Speaker 4: you know, But we.
Speaker 2: Can talk, can tell you the whole story. You guys
Speaker 2: want to know how it felt.
Speaker 4: When you have a gobbler goblin or two or three
Speaker 4: or four and they're just over a ridge and you
Speaker 4: can't see them, but they're right there and you can
Speaker 4: hear them spitting and drumming. That is a different kind
Speaker 4: of heartbeat. That's a different kind of adrenaline. And all
Speaker 4: turkey hunters know exactly what I'm talking about. And it
Speaker 4: doesn't matter where it is Tennessee, Missouri, Turkey.
Speaker 1: It's just hot goblin in front of you.
Speaker 4: It doesn't matter where it is.
Speaker 3: Can you walk us through one of your favorite turkey hunts.
Speaker 3: I'd just like to hear turkey hunting for at I
Speaker 3: haven't I haven't even broke the seal.
Speaker 4: On this, and I've got so many I have no
Speaker 4: earthly idea one that it's just special turkey hunt, special
Speaker 4: turkey hunt.
Speaker 3: It could be anything, could be anywhere with anybody, could
Speaker 3: be your by yourself. I always think about the one
Speaker 3: I killed on public over here on the lake that was.
Speaker 4: And you killed one on public ground, that's always a
Speaker 4: good one. I killed a turkey where I used to
Speaker 4: live in Leaper's Fork. I had fourteen acres out there,
Speaker 4: and I had one gobbler that would hammer across the
Speaker 4: black top road from my ridge every day. And I
Speaker 4: knew he was old because it was real high pitch.
Speaker 4: I just knew he was a new one of jake. Yeah,
Speaker 4: And because I've heard enough old old gowbler's gobbled to
Speaker 4: where you think it's a jake and it's not a
Speaker 4: jet winds up not being a Jacin's super old bird.
Speaker 4: But anyway, this bird was over there and he would
Speaker 4: do it like and it got to the point where
Speaker 4: I thought he was teasing me, because I'd go on
Speaker 4: my ridge and I'd shoot you know, a handful of
Speaker 4: two year olds of what from year after year or whatever,
Speaker 4: and some decent birds, but that one bird, you could
Speaker 4: always tell it was him by the way he gobbled
Speaker 4: and I never could get him to come in. And
Speaker 4: then I don't hunt May much because it gets so hot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so snakes and spiders.
Speaker 4: And one morning it was it was one of those
Speaker 4: tick hot mornings and it was like and I heard
Speaker 4: him over a goblin and it was in May and said,
Speaker 4: towards the end of the season. At the time in
Speaker 4: the morning, Uh, I don't even remember.
Speaker 2: It wasn't it wasn't early, and it wasn't late.
Speaker 4: He was just he was just over there just you know,
Speaker 4: you know how they do after they're just walking circles
Speaker 4: on the ridgetop, just.
Speaker 2: You know, for no reason.
Speaker 5: There's nothing.
Speaker 4: They don't have any hens with them. Everybody's bred out.
Speaker 4: But he's still over there, just hammering it, getting what
Speaker 4: he can get. Yeah. So I said, whatever, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: go up there. And you gotta climb a steep hill
Speaker 4: to get up there. So I go up there, and
Speaker 4: I'm across a blacktop from him, and we're two ridges.
Speaker 4: He's a ridge over here and there's a big there's
Speaker 4: a black top it runs between us, and he's got
Speaker 4: to go. If he ever came over, do you have
Speaker 4: to walk across the field, go across the black top.
Speaker 4: So I go up there and I just I went
Speaker 4: up there and I said, I'm not just gonna regularly
Speaker 4: yelp at him. I'm gonna I'm going to strike the
Speaker 4: band up here, because I remember hearing Toxi hayses it
Speaker 4: one time when I was hunting with him. He got
Speaker 4: so aggressive one time on one bird, and I never
Speaker 4: forgot it, and I was like, I mean, the hat
Speaker 4: comes off, he's got two push pullers in meach hand,
Speaker 4: he's got his mouth calls, and it sounds like there's
Speaker 4: one hundred turkeys trying to kill. What you just did
Speaker 4: with your voice is kind of crazy. He just that's
Speaker 4: what you do. Yeah, that sounds like, well, when you
Speaker 4: put a when you put a mouth call in, you
Speaker 4: go and you do all that's good, and you've got
Speaker 4: all this going on in your hands, and you're and
Speaker 4: you take a hat off shop and you start breaking stuff,
Speaker 4: breaks and stuff, limbs, anything, you make as much noise
Speaker 4: as you get. It sounds like one hundred turkeys trying
Speaker 4: to kill each other. That's what I pulled out on
Speaker 4: this joke.
Speaker 1: It struck a nerve somewhere.
Speaker 4: And in ten minutes it took him a minute to decide,
Speaker 4: but he frick. And when I say ten minutes, ten minutes,
Speaker 4: it's a short spirit. That's how far away this bird
Speaker 4: was from me. He come down off that hill and
Speaker 4: he stopped Goblin. And I knew when he quit Goblin,
Speaker 4: when he got down to the bottom of his ridge,
Speaker 4: when he stopped, he's coming. I knew it. I just knew.
Speaker 2: Could you see the shot?
Speaker 4: I shut up, Could you see the No, it was
Speaker 4: a little thick, but I was on top of the
Speaker 4: ridge and it's so steep. But I was like, oh, frick,
Speaker 4: he quick. God, when he's coming, I know he is.
Speaker 4: And next time, next time I.
Speaker 2: Heard him, he was right that.
Speaker 4: He was right there, about fifty yards from me, and
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, this is going to happen. I shot
Speaker 4: this bird, went over to him. He had his left leg,
Speaker 4: he had one spur that grew out and grew back
Speaker 4: into his left leg. He had no spur on his
Speaker 4: right leg. It was all.
Speaker 1: It was just gone.
Speaker 4: It's like an old buck.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And he had this old, mangy looking beard that come
Speaker 4: down And I never forgot that. That was probably the
Speaker 4: most satisfying that I killed an old monarch like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, for sure, that's awesome.
Speaker 1: And he gets me fired up.
Speaker 3: Just thinking about all the hunts I've ever had in
Speaker 3: my life.
Speaker 2: Turkey season special, that that first that opening weekend, first
Speaker 2: morning in the woods and you've got birds gobbling around
Speaker 2: and you're sitting on it back against a white oak
Speaker 2: man and they that that opening day moment is special.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's something.
Speaker 2: And I think as we get older, like I kind
Speaker 2: of fell out of love with turkey hunting for a
Speaker 2: minute when I was getting into deer hunting so much.
Speaker 2: But as I get older and love deer hunting more,
Speaker 2: I find myself loving turkey hunting more just for what
Speaker 2: it is.
Speaker 1: Like my my one day is is sitting you know,
Speaker 1: in a tree standing Kansas, waiting for you know, rattling,
Speaker 1: trying in the middle of November, trying to rattle in
Speaker 1: a deer. But I appreciate turkey hunting and what it
Speaker 1: gives me in the spring, you.
Speaker 2: Know, just also kind of our social outlet hunt, right,
Speaker 2: like we don't I mean, we deer hunt like crazy,
Speaker 2: but it's kind of a solitary thing, like we don't
Speaker 2: hunt with a lot of people, you know, deer hunting
Speaker 2: and then with turkey hunt man, it's like me and.
Speaker 1: You, or me and dad, or running gun, just trying
Speaker 1: to figure it out. Talking.
Speaker 3: I think back to my One of my favorite hunts
Speaker 3: was that we walked, We slept in care for, got up,
Speaker 3: walked all the way over to the new least and
Speaker 3: you shot that bird in the and we had to
Speaker 3: walk back and started raining on that rich The sun
Speaker 3: came out. It was sun and we were walking through
Speaker 3: all this like timber that had been select cut and
Speaker 3: it's rain. It was raining while the sun was out,
Speaker 3: and Reid had a turkey on his back and there
Speaker 3: was nowhere to get out of the rain. It was
Speaker 3: just soaking us and the sun was out. And I
Speaker 3: remember walking across that.
Speaker 2: Oat flat and you couldn't wipe the smart smile off
Speaker 2: my face. It was just like it almost felt movie esque,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like you were it just
Speaker 2: felt like you were in a freaking movie man. And
Speaker 2: that's the that's the thing for turkey hunting, that like,
Speaker 2: you're not gonna get that in deer hunting. If it's
Speaker 2: raining on you in deer season, you're like, I gotta
Speaker 2: get out of that ship.
Speaker 4: It's freezing because that god with anything, the goblet, thunder.
Speaker 2: That thunder goblin. It's fun too, all right, we could
Speaker 2: do this all day. Dude.
Speaker 1: Your dad's a member of the Alabama.
Speaker 2: Music Hall of Fame. Mm hm was it was? He's
Speaker 2: in a gospel group, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he's been. He's saying the Thrasher brothers, he's saying,
Speaker 4: he's saying professionally since he was four years.
Speaker 2: Old, really professionalists. He was four years old?
Speaker 1: Was it with his actual brothers?
Speaker 4: Him and two brothers, and then when they got you know, older,
Speaker 4: they formed a quartet and hired bass singers.
Speaker 2: Wait, how old were the brothers?
Speaker 4: This?
Speaker 2: This is a group of four year olds coming in
Speaker 2: and singing.
Speaker 4: No, dad was the youngest.
Speaker 1: He was like the Christian Jackson five.
Speaker 4: It really it really was because their mother, you know,
Speaker 4: my grandmother played piano and she's the one that groomed them.
Speaker 1: The O G Crab family. Yeah yeah, the Thrash for five.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so they were They did gospel music for
Speaker 4: his whole life.
Speaker 3: Oh what's a good gospel too? Is there something that
Speaker 3: you can still remember that just you grew up on as.
Speaker 2: Far as the courses, yeah.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: Right, we talked about it all the time. But why
Speaker 2: did churches love it when a bass singer would go
Speaker 2: and they would just raise their hands. But it was like, d.
Speaker 1: I was raised going to that stuff.
Speaker 4: That's how I cut my teeth.
Speaker 2: On all that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you were you were, you were rolling, you're
Speaker 1: rolling with.
Speaker 2: Them, you were going to gigs?
Speaker 4: Absolutely? Yeah. I actually sang with them back when I
Speaker 4: was eighteen. My uncle who sang the tenor part, he
Speaker 4: busted his leg up really bad and they had a
Speaker 4: tour coming up, and and uh so I filled in
Speaker 4: and went out and like for six months have a bus.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, was there Gold City?
Speaker 4: I got some pictures to show you all.
Speaker 2: You blow your mind. I was there any pressure because
Speaker 2: we're PK's right preacher kids, we cut our teeth in
Speaker 2: the church and singing specials and doing the whole thing
Speaker 2: and and uh, I mean same thing, right, And there
Speaker 2: was a little pressure too for us to continue, you
Speaker 2: our musical journey in the church and and and do
Speaker 2: Christian music or ye, you know, do try to do
Speaker 2: a thing like that?
Speaker 1: Did you?
Speaker 2: Was there ever any a push towards you like to
Speaker 2: do that? And kind of like a like a you
Speaker 2: know this kind of face when you decided to move
Speaker 2: to Nashville.
Speaker 4: No, it was I was always into sports and I
Speaker 4: always played since I was seven, played baseball and football
Speaker 4: all the way up until I quit playing baseball or
Speaker 4: up for high school and kept playing football. And then
Speaker 4: I started kicking. Well, I was a junior in high school,
Speaker 4: I started kicking. I got smart Bill, go hunt. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 4: both and and so, and then I wound up going
Speaker 4: to Middle Tennessee State University. So I went up there, kicker,
Speaker 4: went there, went there, athlete there. But it was like
Speaker 4: and my dad was pushing me because I went to
Speaker 4: Fort Lauderdale, Florida, to kicking camps, like one on one
Speaker 4: kicking camps. I mean, I worked with the NFL guys
Speaker 4: back then it was and it was mostly for punning.
Speaker 4: But uh, my dad was I kind of felt like
Speaker 4: he was kind of wanting me to go down that
Speaker 4: path a little bit, you know, because I was good
Speaker 4: at it, and it was like, let's do this, and
Speaker 4: so that's kind of was a but I would the
Speaker 4: music thing was just there. You wasn't going to get
Speaker 4: rid of that, right, you know, And so I did
Speaker 4: the whole artist thing after that, did the record deal.
Speaker 4: But the songwriting thing came was a byproduct all the
Speaker 4: artist stuff. But Dad was like I think he was
Speaker 4: kind of trying to push push me toward more of
Speaker 4: the sports direction. But he knew I could sing, and
Speaker 4: he knew that I that I I got it honest
Speaker 4: through my family and through the blood and everything. But uh,
Speaker 4: he never did. Really. It wasn't one way or the other.
Speaker 4: It wasn't like, no, you don't need to do that.
Speaker 4: It was just kind of just kind of let me
Speaker 4: do my own thing, see where it lived and see
Speaker 4: where it took me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can tell by your ankles you're a good athlete.
Speaker 4: What's wrong?
Speaker 2: Nothing, That's what I'm saying. You can tell by somebody
Speaker 2: whether they're athletic as a football kicking foot right there
Speaker 2: telling you Nick Saban.
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure Saban always looks at the ankles of
Speaker 3: a person before he recruits them.
Speaker 1: That is bogus.
Speaker 3: Just google it. It might not be a saving but
Speaker 3: it's one of those big coaches.
Speaker 2: It's one of them.
Speaker 4: That's the weirdest ship I've ever heard in my life.
Speaker 2: Think about it. If a guy's got cankles, if a
Speaker 2: god has made that up, dude, that's so far type
Speaker 2: in what coach. Okay, I'm just telling you.
Speaker 1: Then you look at you think you looked at Jalen
Speaker 1: Hurts and said I heard it.
Speaker 4: Derek Heny walked into his office.
Speaker 3: Yeah, have some good ankles there, y'all shut up and
Speaker 3: jumps to take them socks off.
Speaker 2: He freeze.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I ain't got no job.
Speaker 2: And you're thinking of I can believe that about Auburn. Now,
Speaker 2: that's why they lose.
Speaker 1: I don't think the guy.
Speaker 3: I'm just telling you you got your ankles out. They
Speaker 3: look like athletic ankles. I can tell this guy in
Speaker 3: the centerm.
Speaker 4: I don't hind my ankles in the winter.
Speaker 2: Y'all check these guys out. What do you think athletic?
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, dude, strong, strong bones?
Speaker 1: Oh man? What what was the decision? Like?
Speaker 2: If I kicked a football right now?
Speaker 4: Oh would my turkey hunting days will be overall?
Speaker 3: My stuff was just completely shatter. It was just crystallizing.
Speaker 1: What what was the decision like?
Speaker 2: Like, were you forced in into getting out of the
Speaker 2: artist thing to do the SONGWRT and thing?
Speaker 1: Or was it was it a no, I need to
Speaker 1: go this way.
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what happened.
Speaker 2: Bye. I got.
Speaker 4: Ninety five, we got a record deal. Me and Kelly
Speaker 4: Shover Tennessee stand up, yes right, yes, sorry, let's start
Speaker 4: stomping grounds hardin County. You're doing right, tigers. So he
Speaker 4: and I started writing again and we got and we
Speaker 4: got you know, started writing over there at Major Bob Music. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and uh Bob said, man, you guys want to you know,
Speaker 4: does it sounded good? It's kind of had this Everly
Speaker 4: Brothers kind of thing going on, and so we did,
Speaker 4: and we signed a record deal over to Soylemn Records
Speaker 4: in ninety five. Did our first record, put out a
Speaker 4: couple of songs. I was doing radio tour for most
Speaker 4: of the whole time and opening for Patty Lovelace and
Speaker 4: I can't say Lovelace. I used to lace my buddy,
Speaker 4: it's loveless. I was wondering, was yeah, we were opening
Speaker 4: for Patty Loveless and uh some mothers and who else?
Speaker 2: Who else was you open for?
Speaker 4: I'm curious, Oh, we'd opened for like Brian White was doing.
Speaker 4: He was rocking and rolling in. We were label mates
Speaker 4: at the time, so we we did. We opened for him?
Speaker 4: Someone else, Yeah, Neil McCoy, trace Atkins, we opened for him.
Speaker 4: And Tracy Bird all those guys. So anyway, uh you
Speaker 4: remember the nineties, I mean it was like rocking, so
Speaker 4: we didn't there wasn't a shortage of people for us
Speaker 4: to open for, and we were doing radio tour and
Speaker 4: doing a bunch of shows, and then nothing was happening.
Speaker 4: And in ninety six, Uh, diamon Rio cut one of
Speaker 4: my songs in that way and they put it out.
Speaker 4: It was one of my it was my first hit.
Speaker 4: So that was in ninety six. That's what I get
Speaker 4: for loving you. So I wrote that with Kent Blaze,
Speaker 4: and those were like my first co writes. When I
Speaker 4: came down, my wife had set me up with these
Speaker 4: guys that were hooked up with Garth because Atlanta worked
Speaker 4: for worked with Garth at the Bulls and Company and
Speaker 4: all that. So that happened, and we're still on radio
Speaker 4: tour and then ninety eight ninety nine rolls around. We're
Speaker 4: doing another record. Y'all had kind of a hit, though
Speaker 4: not really I thought you had it went to the forties.
Speaker 4: We had one who went to the went in the forties.
Speaker 2: I thought it was a higher than.
Speaker 4: No, No, No, And uh, we were big in certain
Speaker 4: areas of the country we could, we couldn't get them
Speaker 4: all collective lead together. So it's one of those deals
Speaker 4: timing thing. Yes, and uh so we did another record,
Speaker 4: We go out and doing radio tour again. In ninety nine,
Speaker 4: then Reva cuts a song that I wrote with Michael
Speaker 4: Delaney and it was my second hit, and both of
Speaker 4: those went to number two. So I hadn't had a
Speaker 4: number one yet, so they all they went to number two.
Speaker 4: Dooking pain. Yeah, still it's really it's still good. So
Speaker 4: in ninety nine when Reba put what do You Say
Speaker 4: out and it went and it was a hit, I
Speaker 4: was like, man, I wonder what would happen. I've been
Speaker 4: doing this radio tour thing for five years with no success.
Speaker 4: I'm like, wonder what happened if I just vocal? You know? Yeah,
Speaker 4: I devoted all my time to writing songs. So I
Speaker 4: told everybody I was done, and I made the decision
Speaker 4: to put chasing the artist thing and just devote all
Speaker 4: my time to writeing and learning that craft even more.
Speaker 4: And that's what I did. Yeah, And then two thousand
Speaker 4: rolled around and here we go, start meet Gary of
Speaker 4: the Walks and start hunting with him, and you start
Speaker 4: finding your your folks and your camps and your you
Speaker 4: know and your your.
Speaker 2: Niche when did you and Wendell meet? And when did
Speaker 2: you know you had like that was going to be
Speaker 2: one of your guys.
Speaker 4: I met Wendell probably right around ninety eight, ninety nine
Speaker 4: at County Q Studios. I backed into his truck when
Speaker 4: I was leaving. He wasn't in it. He was actually
Speaker 4: in the studio in a vocal booth. Because I went
Speaker 4: back in. I just got through singing a demo and
Speaker 4: came out and I backed into his truck. I went,
Speaker 4: damn Nation. I had to go back inside to find
Speaker 4: out whose truck it was. And I'm going around to
Speaker 4: each room in the studio because there's like three different
Speaker 4: studio rooms or whatever at that time, and got a
Speaker 4: black silver I did, and I said, no, it is
Speaker 4: a blue Ford Ranger. Was like, anybody own a blue
Speaker 4: Ford Ranger out here? And nobody said anything. And window
Speaker 4: couldn't hurt hear me because he was in the in
Speaker 4: the vocal booth. So I left a note on the
Speaker 4: window and went back to Major Bob. Before I even
Speaker 4: got their window had already called Lanta. He knew my wife,
Speaker 4: He knew Lanta before longer than I had, and he
Speaker 4: was pissed. Man, I crushed his grill. Yeah, he shouldn't
Speaker 4: drive such a short truck.
Speaker 2: And uh, I bet he got a short truck.
Speaker 4: No, and he So that's how we met, and then
Speaker 4: we started writing, and then we then we then we
Speaker 4: started doing the thing and and then we had and
Speaker 4: then my next I guess my next hit was I
Speaker 4: Melt for flat.
Speaker 3: Dude that this morning on the way in, I just
Speaker 3: put on your Apple like songwriter list. It was just
Speaker 3: listening to stuff bro that song hits.
Speaker 4: That songs. The way that song came about was really
Speaker 4: cool because we're at my house, me and Me and
Speaker 4: Gary and Wendl are at my house.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw he was a writer on that and.
Speaker 4: We're not doing anything about midnight and it's one of
Speaker 4: him like I need to call it, you know.
Speaker 1: I was gonna call it, you know.
Speaker 4: And my wife comes out of the bedroom and doesn't
Speaker 4: say a word and walks up to the mantel and
Speaker 4: lights three candles on the mantel, turns around, walks out
Speaker 4: and turns the lights off and goes back to bed
Speaker 4: and window. When you light those candle from there on
Speaker 4: the man sitting and that's how that song came to be.
Speaker 4: And that was my third number two.
Speaker 2: That was the number two.
Speaker 4: I had three two's before I had my first number one,
Speaker 4: and it was I was getting teased and I told
Speaker 4: take it.
Speaker 2: I think I'm not going to have.
Speaker 4: A number one to put on the wall on my hon.
Speaker 3: But who kept who kept that song? What song kept
Speaker 3: that song out? But I don't know that song is Who.
Speaker 1: Cares, dude?
Speaker 2: I mean, what you think you can think about, you
Speaker 2: think about absolutely that song is mass and timeless sash.
Speaker 2: I'm be honest, it's twenty twenty five, and when that
Speaker 2: song played today, I was like, that shit could get
Speaker 2: cut today. I mean it's that big of a I mean,
Speaker 2: there ain't nobody sing that as there was that song?
Speaker 2: Is this?
Speaker 4: No, that's what that was the journey and that's where
Speaker 4: that's when it started.
Speaker 2: Did you sing that demo and do all that pedling
Speaker 2: or did he kind of just do that?
Speaker 4: I think I sang the demo, man, I can't remember.
Speaker 4: That's a long time ago. If we just did, if
Speaker 4: they just cut it, we did a work tape and
Speaker 4: they just cut.
Speaker 2: It was early two thousands, so you're talking.
Speaker 4: Two thousand and one.
Speaker 2: Hearing you sing those songs, even when you sing like
Speaker 2: fast cars and freedom and all that, I always think.
Speaker 2: I always think to myself, like, man, what what timing
Speaker 2: it was that you and Gary were buddies and Wendell
Speaker 2: are doing those things and writing those songs because you
Speaker 2: all have the same tenor tone that you can just
Speaker 2: because a lot of times when you're writing songs, you're
Speaker 2: trying to pitch the artists. You gotta you gotta conform
Speaker 2: to the artist, right, you gotta. You can't, can't sing
Speaker 2: too high if the guy can't go a little bit.
Speaker 2: But like, I love being able to write those songs
Speaker 2: because I'm the same way I'm. I'm a high tenor
Speaker 2: and and can get up there, and I love soaring melodies.
Speaker 2: And I don't get to write them a ton because
Speaker 2: there ain't a lot of guys in town that can
Speaker 2: do it.
Speaker 4: It's amazing though, that that there's certain artists that that
Speaker 4: hear through it, they hear passed.
Speaker 2: Is like I've had four, like four Trace Akins cuts.
Speaker 4: He's a freaking bass singer, no doubt, and he decided
Speaker 4: to cut him off of my demo. Yeah, and my
Speaker 4: demos there I put him where I'm gonna do them
Speaker 4: if I'm doing a record. But there's some artists like
Speaker 4: Blake Shelton. I've pitched him so many things and never
Speaker 4: had a Blake Shelton cut. Yeah, and I've pisched him
Speaker 4: so many things. But Scott Hendricks told me it's like
Speaker 4: Blake's got to hear it where it is for him.
Speaker 4: They don't. It's like he then the songs right here
Speaker 4: is like, dude, you can change the key.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're lucky.
Speaker 4: We're lucky. I tried to get a Blake.
Speaker 2: We're I mean, we're blessed that that looke can go,
Speaker 2: you know, because we can. It kind of just opens
Speaker 2: the doors to be creative and rite a melody that's
Speaker 2: kind of outside the box because you know, you got
Speaker 2: a guy that you're going to send it to that
Speaker 2: can do it well.
Speaker 4: He's got the chops. I mean that freaking he's one
Speaker 4: of him singing the phone Book kind of guys.
Speaker 2: Ain't no doubt, man, Like you've been in the game
Speaker 2: for so long, have you ever felt jaded?
Speaker 1: Have you ever felt tired of it?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 4: Are you kidding me? I feel like that comes in
Speaker 4: goes it's been coming and going for the last thirty years.
Speaker 4: Yeah for me, because that's how long I've been doing this.
Speaker 2: It's over thirty yeah, And it's how do you still
Speaker 2: get excited about it?
Speaker 1: Even now? You're still you're writing nothing.
Speaker 4: It's nothing. A cool, great song won't cure.
Speaker 2: Love that.
Speaker 4: It's just the way it is. And it's like when
Speaker 4: you you get on one, you're like, Okay, this is
Speaker 4: why I do it.
Speaker 2: This is fun.
Speaker 4: It's fun again, and then you think, and then you
Speaker 4: go through your stages of like, I can't write a
Speaker 4: song anymore. I lost it. Your fingers still go to
Speaker 4: the same places on the guitar, your melody sound the
Speaker 4: freaking same, and you're like, I'm bored to death.
Speaker 2: Myself.
Speaker 4: You go through those phases and then then you go back.
Speaker 4: I go back to just doing it. Like when I
Speaker 4: write for something, when I write like I'm doing the record.
Speaker 4: If I'm writing for myself, that's when I have the
Speaker 4: most success. I'm not trying to write for somebody, trying
Speaker 4: to write for me.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: So, like the Turkey conversation we just had, when you
Speaker 3: think back to like, obviously they're all special, but is
Speaker 3: there a song that you that like really means is
Speaker 3: a special kind of meaning to you that you've had
Speaker 3: that you've written, whether it's a hit or not.
Speaker 4: Oh, there's there's been a bunch of them. There's been
Speaker 4: a there's There was a song on that I wrote
Speaker 4: with Wendell called Ellsworth mm. It was on Rascal Flats
Speaker 4: And that was that kind of started with my grandmother.
Speaker 2: M h, well, do you remember do you remember me
Speaker 2: texting you about that hunting when we were we were
Speaker 2: we were.
Speaker 1: Turkey hunting, driving and I didn't even know that song.
Speaker 1: And then we listen to that song, but we were
Speaker 1: we were driving.
Speaker 2: Through it was four thirty in the morning, you could
Speaker 2: barely see it, and and we were driving through it
Speaker 2: and I just heard Luke home and.
Speaker 1: Something and he's going, oh, song about And I was like,
Speaker 1: what are you singing? And he's like Ellsworth Kansas Man.
Speaker 2: And there was a water tower that had Ellsworth on
Speaker 2: the side of it, and he's like, dude, Neil Thrasher,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: And I was like, wait, what that song I text you.
Speaker 2: That early in the morning. I was like, hey, yes,
Speaker 2: I remember that to a turkey hunt and we're driving
Speaker 2: through a start.
Speaker 4: Because my grandmother was like getting up there and she
Speaker 4: was living. So we moved to Cool Springs and she
Speaker 4: was her driving and she's like, oh, she's driving the
Speaker 4: wrong lane. That's that kind of deal. It's just it
Speaker 4: was about her losing it here. But but she also
Speaker 4: lived in Kansas and it was like she could tell
Speaker 4: you everything that all started from that.
Speaker 1: Wow, great song.
Speaker 4: It's funny. It's funny how those kind of diseases treat people.
Speaker 4: They can remember what went on fifty years ago, and
Speaker 4: they can't remember what they just two minutes ago. Yeah,
Speaker 4: a little bit. Yeah, yep.
Speaker 2: It's kind of beautiful too that that's that's what it
Speaker 2: leaves them though, Like it leaves them the good, like
Speaker 2: it leaves them there. Yep.
Speaker 4: Her biscuits were like my thing when she was you know,
Speaker 4: And that's the first line, Grandma burned a biscuit. And
Speaker 4: it's like because she nobody made a biscuit.
Speaker 3: Like, why didn't nobody make a biscuit like a grandmother
Speaker 3: me and mom's biscuits, you know.
Speaker 2: Next level, she knew she was cooking on for us.
Speaker 2: Next put a little love in there. Dude was cooked
Speaker 2: with love tasted.
Speaker 4: But there's other songs too, I mean there's there's a
Speaker 4: ton of them that were cut that didn't come out
Speaker 4: that I felt like should have. You know, a lot
Speaker 4: of course there goes my life. It would be always
Speaker 4: be special.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: Try that in the small town is probably the biggest,
Speaker 4: and the I'm probably the most because of what it did.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about it. The odds.
Speaker 4: It should have never happened. And as much as they
Speaker 4: tried to kill it, they couldn't kill it.
Speaker 1: Give us a small give us the small snippet of that.
Speaker 1: Give our listeners a small stip.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, funny enough. I had my golf clothes on
Speaker 4: that Tuesday morning, and Caleb, me and me and Lovelace
Speaker 4: right every Tuesday. So not Patty Lovelace, No, not Kelly Loveless.
Speaker 4: It's Kelly Lovelace like Linda.
Speaker 1: But anyway, he calls, we talked before.
Speaker 4: You know, we zoom or whatever, or he comes over
Speaker 4: and plays if it's pretty and it's worn, we're playing golf,
Speaker 4: or I want to play golf. So I got my
Speaker 4: golf clothes on and I'm upstairs. I said, dude, I said,
Speaker 4: it's a beautiful day for golf. We tell this story
Speaker 4: all the time. He goes, I don't think we're playing
Speaker 4: golf today. And I go, what are you talking about?
Speaker 4: And I said, what do you got? He was walking
Speaker 4: that morning watching the news and he was watching these
Speaker 4: these he saw this woman gets sucker punched on the
Speaker 4: sidewalk in New York City just for no reason. Somebody
Speaker 4: just came up just well way later, and he and
Speaker 4: they were showing that what was going on in New
Speaker 4: York City at the time, and these people were coming
Speaker 4: up and hitting people just for no reason. You remember that.
Speaker 2: I remember that. That wasn't it just full on just.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, just knocking them out. And CALO's watching this
Speaker 4: while he's walking. He's getting pissed and he's like and
Speaker 4: he said, it just hit him. He's like, try it
Speaker 4: in a small sound, you know, and he goes, oh.
Speaker 4: So he calls me. He says, we ain't playing golf today,
Speaker 4: and he told me the title. I go, God's so
Speaker 4: freaking awesome. I said, nobody's gonna cut it. We're not
Speaker 4: gonna make any money off of that, I said, But
Speaker 4: I did go. I did say, we have to write it. Yeah,
Speaker 4: we have to write it. Whether it gets cut or not,
Speaker 4: we have to. And then I said, we got through
Speaker 4: about a verse and about a half of course, and
Speaker 4: we had the melody pretty much going, and I said,
Speaker 4: I said, we need to call Tully and Kurt. I said,
Speaker 4: because there's only one person on the planet that would
Speaker 4: even say this. He may put it on a record,
Speaker 4: but he you know, it ain't gonna be put out.
Speaker 4: So we got with Tullian Kirk and we finished it.
Speaker 4: We went to their studio and we put the music down,
Speaker 4: put the track of going saying it, did the demo,
Speaker 4: and they mixed it and just like my cousin mixed
Speaker 4: it Patrick and we sent it to al Dean. They
Speaker 4: did and it took about as much time for him
Speaker 4: to listen to a song. To get back with him.
Speaker 4: I said, I'm cutting this. This is my country boy
Speaker 4: new Comfortabale can't survive. And I was like what. And
Speaker 4: then me and Kaylo had a thousand dollars bet that
Speaker 4: he wouldn't put it on the radio. I said, he's
Speaker 4: gonna put it out. I said, no, he's not gonna
Speaker 4: stop there. He's not gonna cut that song and not
Speaker 4: put it out. Yeah, and Kyle said he ain't gonna
Speaker 4: do it. I'll bet you a thousand dollars he puts.
Speaker 2: It out, would you buy that thousand dollars?
Speaker 4: I put it back into a tattoo fund that we're
Speaker 4: still trying to get. We're still trying to get Kirt
Speaker 4: to get a tattoo. I don't have any tattoos, but
Speaker 4: we all we all said, we said if we went
Speaker 4: number one, we'd all get tattooed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've said that a couple of times.
Speaker 4: It ain't gonna happen, not gonna happen. Yeah, But anyway,
Speaker 4: and then the video came out. Yeah, all hell broke loose.
Speaker 2: And sparked it. Yeah, I mean really went nuts out
Speaker 2: of that.
Speaker 4: Yeah. And Whoopy Goldberg and all them on the viewer
Speaker 4: calling us and the al Dean and the songwriters must
Speaker 4: be a bunch of racists. And I like, where where
Speaker 4: are you getting it from? If anything, where do they
Speaker 4: get that from? Cause it fits there the absolutely we
Speaker 4: know why why they're doing it. Everybody knows why they're
Speaker 4: doing They can't stand Jason anyway because he's a Trump supporter.
Speaker 4: And which is another funny thing, because there's some more
Speaker 4: artists that are starting to come out from underneath their rocks.
Speaker 4: They're starting to be more vocal about you know, we
Speaker 4: didn't start this political thing. Who you supporting, who you don't,
Speaker 4: and just shut up and sing. We didn't start all
Speaker 4: that they did. Now it's time for you know, you
Speaker 4: see Carrie Underwood, she's going to sing, you know, God
Speaker 4: Bless America the anthem. She's not doing the anthem.
Speaker 1: We already catch.
Speaker 4: I know it. That's what I was saying. What is
Speaker 4: she singing? I just saw she was singing on it,
Speaker 4: America the Beautiful. Yeah, she's doing America the Beauty and catching.
Speaker 4: I love it. I freaking love it.
Speaker 2: And she knew she was, she was she had to do,
Speaker 2: she knew.
Speaker 4: And I think it's awesome and it's good to see
Speaker 4: everybody starting, not Karen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and just just yeah exactly, just at least being
Speaker 2: honest about how you feel, how yes, and not letting
Speaker 2: that determine what how you live your life.
Speaker 4: Exactly.
Speaker 3: It's ridiculous that we live in a country that can't
Speaker 3: even have a conversation if you're on two sides of
Speaker 3: the fence, like, yeah, we should be able to talk
Speaker 3: about it, and we should be able to say how
Speaker 3: we were, just like everybody else.
Speaker 2: But it's also beautiful to live in the country that
Speaker 2: something like that happens. Try that small town comes out,
Speaker 2: video comes out, and they think it's a tea ball
Speaker 2: sitting on a tee that they're about to hit a
Speaker 2: home run with it to cancel Jason al Dean, Yeah,
Speaker 2: get this song, make this song a and then.
Speaker 1: What does that song did?
Speaker 2: Dude? What is the supporters of that song? What is
Speaker 2: the message of that song? Turn around and do to that.
Speaker 2: You can't put that fire out now.
Speaker 4: Well, you know when people try to create their own truth,
Speaker 4: it comes from the left and they try to create
Speaker 4: their own narrative and their own truth. But nobody's buying
Speaker 4: it anymore. Right, You know, that song is what it is.
Speaker 4: It's the truth, and it's it doesn't it's not against
Speaker 4: anybody or any race or anything else. It just is
Speaker 4: what it is. You're not gonna come down here and
Speaker 4: screw around. I don't care what color you are. You're
Speaker 4: not gonna come down here and burn a flag in
Speaker 4: our town square. It's not going to happen. You're not
Speaker 4: going to take our guns. We love the Turkey hunt.
Speaker 4: We love to do things. Got a gun that my
Speaker 4: granddad gave me. Everybody knows that's a shotgun. The granddad
Speaker 4: didn't give you an a R ten talking about got
Speaker 4: a gun. It doesn't matter what kind of gun it is.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna carry it regardless. It doesn't matter. And you're
Speaker 4: not going to infringe on that. You're not going to
Speaker 4: change that. I couldn't wait to write the song, and
Speaker 4: I'm so proud of that song and what it did
Speaker 4: and what it said, and that it that it did
Speaker 4: not get defeated and it did not get to get canceled.
Speaker 4: I'm so proud of that. That's awesome and so thankful
Speaker 4: for Jason al Dean. And you know he's taking a
Speaker 4: hard stance for sure. His cahoni's to put it out
Speaker 4: and take it.
Speaker 2: What do you hope What do you hope people get
Speaker 2: from listening to to y'all's podcast. What's the message you're
Speaker 2: sending all the pissed people off?
Speaker 4: Thress We just want to piss everybody off. No, No,
Speaker 4: it's good. We've had a really cool we didn't really
Speaker 4: know what was going to happen. We've had some cool
Speaker 4: guests on. We just had Brett Farvon, you know, we
Speaker 4: just did him and got to hear his story and
Speaker 4: that was coolest crack and we've had cash patail on
Speaker 4: and we've had and knowing these people are gonna do
Speaker 4: what they're gonna do now, it's coolest crap, you know.
Speaker 4: And we've had some rockers on there.
Speaker 1: That's awesome.
Speaker 4: We've had some punk rockers on there. The drummer they
Speaker 4: got fired from the Offspring, you know, for not getting vaccinated. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that's so punk rock, isn't it? What? Anyway? But we've
Speaker 4: had some really cool outings. Been on a few times. Brittany,
Speaker 4: his wife's been on. Those were fun And we don't
Speaker 4: know what's gonna happen. We'll talk sports, we'll talk politics,
Speaker 4: we'll talk music, we'll talk hunting. Not much hunting, but
Speaker 4: it depends on the guest because the other three guys
Speaker 4: don't hunt. Trying to get them. I'm trying to get
Speaker 4: him there. We want to get him there. We'll take
Speaker 4: them turkey.
Speaker 1: That's awesome, that's awesome.
Speaker 2: Are we graver?
Speaker 1: I think we're about a graver?
Speaker 2: Okay, do the.
Speaker 4: Song or no? What are we doing?
Speaker 2: Is the song of this?
Speaker 8: Oh?
Speaker 2: There's not this.
Speaker 1: Man? Can we can we just can?
Speaker 2: Can?
Speaker 1: Can the gravorite just be just one of it? Just
Speaker 1: maybe a few of his hits.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can shut up. I'm almost.
Speaker 2: Is that too high? What song is that? Not? Train?
Speaker 5: Got not and a man? Stuff?
Speaker 4: Get it?
Speaker 1: Do you care to get?
Speaker 4: Care to get it?
Speaker 2: I can go wherever? Where do you want to go?
Speaker 4: Is that a standard?
Speaker 2: That would be standard?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 7: Out?
Speaker 1: Let me ship?
Speaker 4: Well you're not have swam with me here here, I
Speaker 4: don't want to do anyth I'm not gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 4: hanad it back to you.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna play.
Speaker 1: It's tight, it's tight.
Speaker 4: We're plugged in. Hang on, I didn't know where were
Speaker 4: pluged in.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 2: We get it out of it too, We do whatever.
Speaker 4: That's right?
Speaker 2: He is too high?
Speaker 4: Are you shipping me?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: For him? What are you talking about? I've been thinking about.
Speaker 5: You, old a babe?
Speaker 2: You remember the words?
Speaker 4: I don't. I don't. I think.
Speaker 2: Let's see, I've been.
Speaker 9: Thinking about you, old a bay and waiting on that
Speaker 9: Sunda goold?
Speaker 4: What you say?
Speaker 8: Up with you?
Speaker 4: Of after war? You sling over? We said part now
Speaker 4: it today it's a five. Don't know where we s
Speaker 4: about to the outskirts of town.
Speaker 5: Gotta blinging in? A fifth came over.
Speaker 2: It's two verses.
Speaker 4: Right, yeah, a little something to knock on off.
Speaker 2: There you can go.
Speaker 9: Man, you're supposed to get a little cool too. Now
Speaker 9: looks like I'm gonna have to hold you time.
Speaker 5: I guess he might about a mile on four Meal road.
Speaker 10: That's fine.
Speaker 9: A little body in those park the truck and will
Speaker 9: tell you gonna running.
Speaker 5: Hurry up, girl, like here and come in. Gottam moone
Speaker 5: in a million stars.
Speaker 9: The sound of stealing a watch car a thought he
Speaker 9: dropping me insane? Come on, baby, the school doesn't do
Speaker 9: the nice.
Speaker 4: For niney traine. You almost got it, so sorry, make stakes.
Speaker 2: Which Let's trade place?
Speaker 1: Yes, trade places.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be more fun.
Speaker 1: Got a course, it does only if you'll see harmony
Speaker 1: with me.
Speaker 2: Oh I will. Let's get a three part Let's get
Speaker 2: a let's get a three part nice, little little three
Speaker 2: part nice on that course. I want to see her.
Speaker 2: I was missing it all. Here we go, So I
Speaker 2: have the verses.
Speaker 5: You were raised on a nice farm farm.
Speaker 2: Ain't never heard rooster crow, never worn bell foot by river.
Speaker 5: Filled mud up between your twos.
Speaker 2: You never rolled in the hay, never phone in and
Speaker 2: phone well, climb my phone in here, girl, let me
Speaker 2: show you how country a few minutes.
Speaker 5: Let your hand down, hand now, get you some of
Speaker 5: this laid all that. Kick your shoes off, kick him off,
Speaker 5: get you somebody else know now fast I'll take up
Speaker 5: and down these howlers and his Let me show you.
Speaker 1: Country, all right, give him some fast counting freedom. Just go, dude,
Speaker 1: just go, just go for a minute.
Speaker 2: Us now he's us behind.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well he's who was at this saying that was
Speaker 4: on here?
Speaker 2: I s always actually cook she's a kid.
Speaker 1: That was her graver.
Speaker 5: She killed it, steverybody setting up me. Come on now, wondering.
Speaker 1: You.
Speaker 5: I know you're thinking.
Speaker 4: The baby don't need it?
Speaker 7: Where's his?
Speaker 1: See?
Speaker 4: And I see when it's gone?
Speaker 8: Come on, well I see you a strap funnel it
Speaker 8: a overino baby.
Speaker 10: Blue head on my shoulder. Wait, baby on the right.
Speaker 10: There it is, see shirt hanging on the door with
Speaker 10: the French.
Speaker 5: That river was cold. We gave out a chair. You
Speaker 5: don't look antail the.
Speaker 4: Fast course of freedom.
Speaker 5: Let suns by first some feeling.
Speaker 4: He takes a half step down.
Speaker 2: That's right, you need to go up.
Speaker 4: No, I'll keep it there. He's in the morning.
Speaker 2: It's probably perfect, probably better. I was thinking of you
Speaker 2: bring it out.
Speaker 11: That Smila, shake your head if you don't believe me,
Speaker 11: can I just see it? Runney and lady jack.
Speaker 6: Me bye on that battle road.
Speaker 5: Look at me.
Speaker 4: I don't know when to pick you up.
Speaker 5: You're standing on the floor. Just lie.
Speaker 1: Just like that.
Speaker 8: I see a stamp, final wind and old red over
Speaker 8: baby Blue. Your head on my shoulder. Way, baby, don't
Speaker 8: know right there it.
Speaker 7: Is, says Shirt.
Speaker 5: I am the down breach.
Speaker 7: That river was cold, but we gave out of chair.
Speaker 7: You don't look at tail over fastcals pray, don't.
Speaker 8: Let sunstrill make first time fam.
Speaker 10: Well, I'm gonna take you.
Speaker 7: Up.
Speaker 5: So far off for me.
Speaker 10: I got few chickets in my pocket. Morse, we're gonna.
Speaker 5: Miss a pea. He waited so long.
Speaker 6: Wait, it's so long waiting, so long, waited, so long,
Speaker 6: waiting so long.
Speaker 10: I've got two tickets to bed thence won't you beck you' tonight?
Speaker 10: God tickets to Paradise, pressure.
Speaker 2: And God Country. I don't know where that section we've
Speaker 2: ever done.
Speaker 1: Dude, you are a monster, bro monster. That was fund
Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on, Thanks for hanging out with.
Speaker 4: Turkey.
Speaker 3: I'm ready, we're going to I'm going to I'm also
Speaker 3: gonna just gonna make a birdie with you a long time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you play some golf to that was I'm buzzing.
Speaker 1: I'm buzz I think I'm a shock.
Speaker 2: That's fun.
Speaker 1: Neil. Thank you, Thank y'all.
Speaker 2: We love you.
Speaker 1: Thanks hanging out guys.
Speaker 3: Thanks you for your stance, dude on on humanity and
Speaker 3: on on the you know where we're at as far
Speaker 3: as a nation is a country as a people for truth,
Speaker 3: man for truth, for your songs and honestly that knowing,
Speaker 3: and it really does.
Speaker 2: It doesn't.
Speaker 3: It doesn't come out as clickbait. It doesn't come out
Speaker 3: as check our stuff out, but you should check try
Speaker 3: try that in a small town podcast out. But I'm
Speaker 3: saying it doesn't come across as content. It comes across
Speaker 3: as a genuine love for humanity and and and the
Speaker 3: way things are and and and genuinely just getting along
Speaker 3: with your fellow American.
Speaker 1: We appreciate for the good man.
Speaker 4: We appreciate that, and we wanted to do I mean,
Speaker 4: I know you guys are the same way. It's like
Speaker 4: we want to use our platforms to you know, we
Speaker 4: do like fundraisers up in Illinois, the small towns up there,
Speaker 4: we'll do for the f f A, you know, some
Speaker 4: of the vets, and that's what the big picture is
Speaker 4: for us. That's what we want to do. And I
Speaker 4: know you guys are the same way. Any anytime we
Speaker 4: can do that and help out and give back, go play,
Speaker 4: go do some show of money.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we're happy.
Speaker 3: We're happy to be your brother podcast in arms and
Speaker 3: we we we we we view you guys as brothers
Speaker 3: as well.
Speaker 1: Yes we do too.
Speaker 2: Thanks for having hanging out in God's country with us.
Speaker 2: We'll check you'll next time. See you Peace.