WEBVTT - Sacred Honor 0:00:01.240 --> 0:00:06.280 Welcome America. Congratulations. You live in the greatest country on 0:00:06.320 --> 0:00:08.920 the face of the planet. We have more prosperity than 0:00:08.960 --> 0:00:13.600 we've ever had before than any other people ever. We 0:00:13.680 --> 0:00:16.040 have a lot to be grateful for. But you know what, 0:00:16.280 --> 0:00:20.759 to have that privilege and to be stewards of a republic, 0:00:21.280 --> 0:00:26.720 it requires vigilance, It requires oversight, It requires challenging the 0:00:26.800 --> 0:00:29.600 status quo. You know what, the United States of America, 0:00:29.880 --> 0:00:34.320 we're different than everybody else because guess what, we get 0:00:34.360 --> 0:00:38.639 to actually challenge. We get to actually have a first Amendment, 0:00:38.680 --> 0:00:41.080 we actually get to have a second Amendment. We actually 0:00:41.120 --> 0:00:45.720 get to challenge those in power, and that is so 0:00:45.920 --> 0:00:49.000 unique in the world. I'm Jason Chafit's filling in for 0:00:49.040 --> 0:00:52.559 Sean Hannity, thrilled to do so. We got a lot 0:00:52.600 --> 0:00:56.080 of great guests, and one of them, we're kicking this 0:00:56.280 --> 0:01:00.360 hour off with Brett Tolman. Now, Brett Tolman happens to 0:01:00.440 --> 0:01:05.360 be one of my favorite people on the planet. He's 0:01:05.640 --> 0:01:09.240 like a true cowboy, a rancher, loves his horses more 0:01:09.280 --> 0:01:13.800 than well, just about anything else. He's a hunter. He's 0:01:13.840 --> 0:01:17.000 a former US attorney for the District of Utah. He 0:01:17.000 --> 0:01:20.880 heads up right on crime. And he's just a funny, 0:01:20.920 --> 0:01:25.440 good guy who actually knows his stuff. And he worked 0:01:25.440 --> 0:01:28.560 in the Senate in judiciary, so he knows it from 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:32.440 that angle. But being the US attorney he helped prosecute 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:36.920 in the Elizabeth Smart case. You've heard him, probably seen him. 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:39.880 But one of the smartest legal people out there. And 0:01:40.280 --> 0:01:44.160 thrilled to have Brett Tolman joining us on the Sean 0:01:44.200 --> 0:01:46.960 Hannity Show. Brett, welcome, Thank. 0:01:46.800 --> 0:01:47.240 You, Jason. 0:01:47.280 --> 0:01:48.040 Great to be with you. 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:51.720 Now, you better not fail after that. If that intro, 0:01:52.520 --> 0:01:56.120 you better not say no comment or something like that. 0:01:59.200 --> 0:02:02.360 I built you up like you couldn't be any higher 0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:04.960 on the pedestal. So let's make sure we knock this 0:02:05.000 --> 0:02:07.320 one out of the park. You know, I'm a guest here, 0:02:07.360 --> 0:02:10.200 so you know I want to get invited back. So 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:15.840 all right, we got we got to talk about, you know, 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:21.280 Unfortunately Charlie Kirk, it's hard to believe this case continues 0:02:21.360 --> 0:02:25.320 on and on and on, as probably far too many 0:02:25.360 --> 0:02:30.120 people know. I was there when it happened. I saw it. 0:02:30.240 --> 0:02:35.000 I was looking directly at Charlie when he was assassinated. 0:02:36.600 --> 0:02:38.560 First question I have for you, because there were a 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:43.080 couple the judges has made a couple of rulings here. 0:02:43.639 --> 0:02:47.360 One is about the fate of the death penalty, which 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:48.920 I want to ask you about. The other one was 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:54.360 about reprimanding the prosecutor for violating a gag order. But 0:02:54.440 --> 0:02:57.120 my first question is why in the world is this 0:02:57.400 --> 0:03:03.160 taking so long? I mean, swiftness helps both sides, right, 0:03:03.320 --> 0:03:06.480 it's why is this case taking. 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:09.600 Foreff Well, Jason, I agree with you. 0:03:09.720 --> 0:03:13.400 I mean, this is a case in which, you know, 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:18.640 justice prolonged is justice denied. And the longer it goes, 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:23.720 it actually, you know, it benefits the defense because the 0:03:23.760 --> 0:03:29.800 issues arise, more time to think about potential motions, they 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:32.720 can send their investigators out, they can they can stir 0:03:32.919 --> 0:03:36.480 issues like they've done, you know, to date. And this 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:39.400 last one is an issue they made. The defense made 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:45.440 some misstatements and they mischaracterize the forensic evidence surrounding the 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:49.880 bullet and so the government, which I think made an 0:03:49.960 --> 0:03:52.760 unforced there. But the government went on you know, the 0:03:52.800 --> 0:03:56.200 media and tried to correct that. And that's that's an 0:03:56.240 --> 0:03:59.080 example of when you take too long, you're just you're 0:03:59.120 --> 0:04:02.040 just waiting to create more issues for the defense to 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:03.040 try to capitalize on. 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:03.160 It. 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:07.040 So, I'm not a huge fan of gag orders. Explain 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:09.000 to me why we even have to have a gag 0:04:09.120 --> 0:04:13.520 order and why can't the prosecutors actually work and be 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:17.400 able to say, hey, let us clarify from our side 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:19.239 of the view. You you are the ones that talked 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:21.920 about it. Now, how come we don't get to talk 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:23.160 about exactly. 0:04:23.440 --> 0:04:25.360 I'm not a fan of gag orders. I will tell 0:04:25.360 --> 0:04:27.960 you that the only time a gag order is really 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:33.480 necessary is when you're trying to protect identities of witnesses, 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:38.320 potential you know, cooperators, right, the safety of individuals. 0:04:38.320 --> 0:04:39.599 We don't have that in this case. 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:42.279 We don't have that. In fact, we have one of 0:04:42.279 --> 0:04:46.240 the more renowned assassinations that's occurred in our country. We 0:04:46.400 --> 0:04:49.480 have all kinds of media that's already been you know, 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:52.960 it exists, it's there, everybody knows what's going on. 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:53.960 This is the case. 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:56.560 It's an example of you don't need the gag order. 0:04:56.920 --> 0:04:59.599 Try the case, get in there, push it, you know, 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:03.520 be be resolved to make decisions quickly. This judge, you know, 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:07.440 historically and my experience with him, I've been in that courtroom. 0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:11.719 The decisions were not you know, they didn't take this 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:14.400 long and there wasn't as much hand ringing, And I 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:17.720 think it could be an example of just the overwhelming 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:22.800 nature of the case itself and the dynamic that we 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:25.960 now see where you have the assassination of one of 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:29.000 the more famous peoples in this country, of really good man, 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:32.240 a friend of mine and of yours, And so I 0:05:32.279 --> 0:05:35.280 think all of that you weigh that in the balance 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:38.280 of a judge, and unfortunately, I think they believe that, 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:42.080 you know, more thoughtfulness and more process might be what's 0:05:42.120 --> 0:05:45.720 needed in a high profile case, but that's not what 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:46.239 we need. 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:47.640 And I think cases like O. J. 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:51.479 Simpson and others kind of prove that that's sometimes a 0:05:51.520 --> 0:05:52.520 recipe for disaster. 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:57.080 Well, and we haven't even begun the process of jury 0:05:57.160 --> 0:05:59.800 selection and how long that's going to go on. And 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:04.080 you know, they can argue a change of venue. You know, 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:07.800 given that in Utah County where this uh, you know, 0:06:07.800 --> 0:06:11.119 where this assassination happened, they're going to argue that ninety 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:15.200 nine percent of the people already know about this. But 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:17.160 where do you see that going. 0:06:18.360 --> 0:06:20.320 Yeah, it's a good question. I mean, look at the 0:06:21.279 --> 0:06:25.640 last couple motions. You had a motion to do something 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:29.599 that's never done, and that is to actually confront one 0:06:29.600 --> 0:06:31.919 of the witnesses in the case at. 0:06:31.760 --> 0:06:33.920 The preliminary hering, and in this case. 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:39.240 The friend or boyfriend of the defendant, and they filed 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:42.159 a motion to do it that should have been ruled 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:45.400 on immediately when they filed it, Like, that's never granted 0:06:45.560 --> 0:06:48.440 they can use here say it's a preliminary hearing. You 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:50.120 don't get to confront the witness. 0:06:49.760 --> 0:06:50.400 At that stage. 0:06:51.320 --> 0:06:53.360 And yet that's an example of how you know it's 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:56.760 been dragged out. Let's let's stop this, let's get this moving, 0:06:57.279 --> 0:07:01.279 get to jury selection, get past the venue. You you 0:07:01.839 --> 0:07:06.240 dismissed that motion almost immediately as well, because it's just 0:07:06.279 --> 0:07:09.480 as notorious in any other county in Utah. 0:07:10.000 --> 0:07:13.440 Yeah, I think they need to it again. It's it's 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:15.240 solely up to the judge, right, I mean, he's got 0:07:15.240 --> 0:07:18.480 to accelerate this now. The other thing that your judge 0:07:18.480 --> 0:07:21.360 did is said that the death penalty can stay in 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:25.080 play here. What's your take on that ruling? 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:29.040 Yeah, it was a good decision what the defense was 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:32.720 trying to do for your audience there, and Esen said, 0:07:33.480 --> 0:07:37.160 there's a violation of the gagoger because the prosecution went 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:39.559 to the media. And between you and me, Jason, if 0:07:39.600 --> 0:07:41.000 you're going to go to the media, don't go to 0:07:41.120 --> 0:07:44.320 TMZ first, right, good? 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:46.200 But yeah, I hear you. 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:48.960 Yeah, I mean go to a sources that perhaps you know, 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:51.400 Fox News would be the appropriate. 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:53.720 One in my view, because you're just trying. 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:56.200 To correct a record and you're not trying to do 0:07:56.280 --> 0:08:00.120 anything to jeopardize, you know, our prejudice. The case, the 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:03.040 court found that there was a violation of the gag order, 0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:06.480 so a sanction has to be given. The defense said, well, 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:08.440 the sanction should be we take the death penalty off 0:08:08.480 --> 0:08:11.440 the place, which is absolutely random and outrageous. 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:14.560 You would not remove. 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:19.720 A potential penalty based on a misconduct by the prosecution. 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:25.920 An appropriate sanction would be, you know that particular evidence 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:29.400 might not be visited, or there might be evidence that 0:08:29.440 --> 0:08:31.840 you allow in that you might otherwise not based on 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:36.360 the conduct or misconduct. But for here, they're overreaching and 0:08:36.360 --> 0:08:37.600 they wanted to get rid of the death and I 0:08:37.600 --> 0:08:39.679 so the judge is very good, this is an example 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:41.960 of what he should should do in other instances and 0:08:42.040 --> 0:08:44.840 just immediately rule on it and say no, we're not 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:47.400 getting rid of one of the potential penalties that are 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:49.079 involved in an assassination. 0:08:50.440 --> 0:08:53.640 Well, I just hope that they accelerate this because it 0:08:53.720 --> 0:08:57.920 is taking far too long and justice needs to be 0:08:58.000 --> 0:09:01.440 served for a variety of reasons, and they need to 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:03.840 get on with it. All these motions they can continue 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:08.720 in perpetuity in my opinion. All right, let's transition here, Brett, 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:11.440 while I still have you here, I want to talk 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:14.640 about some of these attacks on President Trump. I mean, 0:09:15.080 --> 0:09:19.840 you got these judges that are really really going after 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:23.640 Donald Trump for all the wrong reasons. But the appellate court, 0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:28.760 the Appeals Court issued a writ of mandamus. I don't 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:30.840 even know what that is. I should, but I don't 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:33.440 explain to us what that is. This has to go 0:09:33.679 --> 0:09:39.160 back to Judge James Boseburg. He's a gem. Explain to 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:40.200 us what's happening there. 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:47.240 Yeah, I mean, there are rare instances in which an 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:51.960 appellate court can actually take a look at something, even 0:09:52.000 --> 0:09:54.480 if it doesn't, you know, even if it doesn't get 0:09:54.520 --> 0:09:57.920 pushed to them through a final judgment. But if they see, 0:09:58.000 --> 0:10:02.320 for example, a judge that violates an order below based 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:06.560 on a ruling that they've made, then there are extraordinary 0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:09.040 things that can happen from an appellate court. One of 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:12.000 those is a rid of mandamus, in which the court says, 0:10:12.160 --> 0:10:14.880 get in here, everybody will get in here on this issue, 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:19.200 because you violated our order. It is rare, it's unusual. 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:23.079 It's interesting to see that there's some activity. It gives, 0:10:23.200 --> 0:10:26.480 you know, there, I'm hopeful based on some of the 0:10:26.520 --> 0:10:29.520 rulings of the Supreme Court, and I'm hopeful that the 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:33.240 message starts to get I mean, we thought that that 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:37.240 nationwide injunctions were over based on two rulings of the 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:41.280 Supreme Court, but we see they still try they're still 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:44.319 trying to do those and so it's also a way 0:10:44.559 --> 0:10:47.080 to expedite getting it up to the Supreme Court for 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:50.400 a final ruling. And then I mean, if they if 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:54.920 they violate after that, we will be in fairly unchartered ground. 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:59.160 And the question will be at one point, is a 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:03.600 judge in capable of issuing, you know, or deciding on 0:11:03.679 --> 0:11:07.360 an issue, and at that moment, if they refuse to follow, 0:11:07.920 --> 0:11:11.240 that's absolutely grounds for impeachment. That's why impeachment is there, 0:11:11.400 --> 0:11:16.320 because if a judge continues to issue unconstitutional and unlawful orders, 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:19.320 that's that's that's why we put in, you know, in 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:21.760 the Constitution of a basis to getting rid of individuals 0:11:21.800 --> 0:11:22.800 that wouldn't follow law. 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:27.160 Yeah, I do feel like this is this is one 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:31.760 of those cases where they just unrelenting and what appears 0:11:31.840 --> 0:11:38.679 to be such driven political points as opposed to if 0:11:38.679 --> 0:11:41.320 you play and you look back at what Josh Holly did. 0:11:42.000 --> 0:11:46.120 I think it was yesterday and going after one of 0:11:46.160 --> 0:11:51.120 these activist judges. I don't know if you saw that clip, 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:54.560 but he was pretty good. I think we have this 0:11:54.679 --> 0:11:55.120 cut to. 0:11:56.400 --> 0:11:57.719 What I said I did. 0:11:57.760 --> 0:11:59.760 You didn't resign from Jones Day, Senator. 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:03.920 I did not resign from Jonesy because of any particular representation. 0:12:04.080 --> 0:12:05.959 All right, So it wasn't it wasn't a moral You 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:06.760 had no moral. 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:08.360 Quandaries, Absolutely not, Senator. 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:09.360 I had no moral. 0:12:09.280 --> 0:12:11.319 Quandaries with any of the cases at Jones Day. That's 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:12.600 your testimony, Senator. 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:15.840 I left the firm in January of twenty twenty one 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:19.040 because I was offered an opportunity to return to public service. 0:12:19.160 --> 0:12:22.680 It's an opportunity the firm supported and that I took. 0:12:22.920 --> 0:12:25.200 You had no quandaries with them representing in the Trump 0:12:25.280 --> 0:12:27.480 litigation you have, Senator, that's your. 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:30.560 Testimony, Senator, I did not leave my firm because of 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:34.120 that representation. I left my problem firm. Senator. I left 0:12:34.160 --> 0:12:38.400 the firm months later because I received an opportunity to return. 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:40.880 No problem with that. And you have no problem representing 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:43.120 the bondholder. So your your testimony is you're you're happy 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:45.360 to represent anybody who comes your way. Donald Trump, you 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:49.240 bet the bond holders, you bet hedge funds, you bet whoever. 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:51.640 That's that's your testimony. So I'll make sure I got 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:52.600 it right, Senator. 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:55.320 Throughout my career, I have adhered to the code of 0:12:55.320 --> 0:12:57.560 ethics that all lawyers are bound by. 0:12:57.600 --> 0:12:59.120 Sure, but the code of ethics allow you to make 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:01.680 money from anybody. I'm listening. You can choose your clients. 0:13:01.679 --> 0:13:03.679 I'm not accusing you of any ethical violations at all. 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:03.960 I'm not. 0:13:04.480 --> 0:13:06.040 I'm just trying to figure out why you thought it 0:13:06.080 --> 0:13:09.480 was important to have these hedge funds as your clients, 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:11.920 and if you had any moral quandaries. And your testimony 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:13.760 is you didn't have any moral quandaries, which is fine, 0:13:13.840 --> 0:13:15.959 But I just wonder if that's the best judgment. 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:19.640 What do you make of this exchange. I don't know 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:21.720 the whole case and what she's dealing with. But I 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:24.240 thought Holly was actually pretty good at making this point. 0:13:25.760 --> 0:13:29.280 It was very good. You know, you're getting under someone's 0:13:29.280 --> 0:13:37.240 skin when they continue every sentence they begin it with senator, Yeah, tell, 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:37.720 isn't it? 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:38.120 Yes? 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:41.520 Right, it's a tell for sure? But she what what? 0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:44.600 Where they're where they're struggling is. 0:13:44.920 --> 0:13:49.080 People are vocal, and before they get into a nomination hearing, 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:53.200 they're posting, they're telling people, and we're learning that there's 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:56.320 extreme bias on the left, extreme bias. 0:13:56.960 --> 0:14:00.560 And what I mean by that is they look at 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:03.800 you look at the you know, the reflection pool in 0:14:03.800 --> 0:14:04.920 front of the Lincoln Memorial. 0:14:05.000 --> 0:14:09.400 Right, any other generation, any other president that decides this 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:12.840 thing needs to be cleaned up and made beautiful, they're 0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:16.000 going to be praised from either side. Yeah, with Trump 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:19.800 doesn't matter. And you see then when we're nominating or 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:22.520 getting people that are in positions or we're trying to 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:25.520 question individuals who have been on the. 0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:26.360 Left and their. 0:14:26.280 --> 0:14:30.000 Vocal critics, it's at a depth of level and emotion 0:14:30.560 --> 0:14:35.440 that we don't necessarily experience on the right. They experience 0:14:35.480 --> 0:14:41.320 it on the left because they know that they are 0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:45.480 hanging their their ability to hold onto power is hanging 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:47.920 in the balance on all of this, and if it's 0:14:47.960 --> 0:14:51.240 not what the American people want, and so they push, 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:56.280 and they use hyperbole and exaggeration, and they outright lie 0:14:56.640 --> 0:14:59.280 and use deception. And then above that, Jason, the thing 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:03.200 that is so hard for me is is this notion 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:05.600 that violence is okay? 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:09.960 Have Yeah, No, it's we got Brett. We could talk 0:15:10.000 --> 0:15:12.240 a lot more about this. I love that you're in 0:15:12.240 --> 0:15:14.960 the fight and understand this so well. Thank you so 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:17.480 much for joining us with Sean Handy. Stay with us. 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:26.800 We're going to be right back, John Hannity. 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:51.320 All right, I want you to check this out when 0:15:51.320 --> 0:15:54.320 you have a chance. Jason in the House, Jason in 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:56.200 the House. That's all you need to remember. You can 0:15:56.360 --> 0:16:01.520 catch me on Instagram, Facebook, h X, and you go 0:16:01.600 --> 0:16:05.000 to Jason Inthehouse dot com. You can check out all it. 0:16:05.040 --> 0:16:07.160 I've written five books, four of which are New York 0:16:07.160 --> 0:16:10.600 Times bestsellers, including The Deep State, and the one that 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:14.560 I'm really excited about that's more recent is They're coming 0:16:14.600 --> 0:16:18.280 for you. That's what we're talking about with AI and 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:20.320 how they're going to use these tools. We got a 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:22.760 lot more coming up with Sean Hannity, Stay with us, 0:16:22.960 --> 0:16:23.800 We'll be right back. 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:54.400 The one thing you can always count on, Sean Hannity 0:16:54.560 --> 0:16:56.280 is back on the radio. 0:16:57.800 --> 0:17:01.240 Well, he'll be back soon soon. If I'm Jason Chafits, 0:17:01.280 --> 0:17:04.919 I'm filling in for Sean. It's Tune twenty six. We're 0:17:04.920 --> 0:17:07.840 getting ready for fourth of July, and we got something 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:11.560 special here with America two fifty. You're gonna love. I 0:17:11.600 --> 0:17:15.800 think our next guest here, his name is a Bradley Devlin. 0:17:15.920 --> 0:17:19.240 He's the politics editor at the Daily Signal. And if 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:23.760 you're not following at Daily Signal, you should be a 0:17:23.800 --> 0:17:25.879 lot of good content, a lot of good stuff there. 0:17:26.760 --> 0:17:29.320 I'm going to go to this cut number one because 0:17:29.320 --> 0:17:30.879 this is going to set up what we're going to 0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:35.199 talk about with Bradley Devlin. This is sacred honor, the 0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:41.240 declaration that defies, that defines a nation. It's the trailer, 0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:43.040 and so let's go to cut one. 0:17:44.080 --> 0:17:46.880 We hold these truths to be self evident, that all 0:17:46.960 --> 0:17:52.360 men are created equal, but they are endowed by their 0:17:52.400 --> 0:17:57.640 creator with certain unalienable rights. But among these are life, liberty, 0:17:58.080 --> 0:18:00.000 and the pursuit of happiness. 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:03.840 Sure these rights, governments are instituted among men. 0:18:04.920 --> 0:18:08.600 Deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. 0:18:08.280 --> 0:18:12.200 That whenever any form of government becomes destructive. 0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:14.240 Of these inns, it is the right of the people 0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:21.240 to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new. 0:18:21.040 --> 0:18:25.120 Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its 0:18:25.160 --> 0:18:28.480 powers in such form as shouted them seem most likely 0:18:28.520 --> 0:18:30.520 to affect their safety and happiness. 0:18:31.080 --> 0:18:34.040 For the support of this declaration, for the firm reliance 0:18:34.080 --> 0:18:37.280 and the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:39.480 each other our lives. 0:18:39.160 --> 0:18:42.159 Are fortunes, and our sacred honor. 0:18:46.760 --> 0:18:50.920 Bradley Devlin is, like you said, he's of politics editor 0:18:50.960 --> 0:18:54.199 at The Daily Signal and he's also a documentary filmmaker. 0:18:54.240 --> 0:18:56.880 I recognize Senator Mike Lee in there, just because he's 0:18:56.920 --> 0:19:00.840 got that distinctive voice. Bradley, we welcome to the Sean 0:19:00.880 --> 0:19:03.879 Hannity Show. Tell us what you've done, why you did it, 0:19:04.119 --> 0:19:06.439 and where people can see this. 0:19:08.000 --> 0:19:10.800 Well, Jason, it's good to be with you, and thank 0:19:10.840 --> 0:19:14.360 you to you and your team for playing the trailer. Yes, 0:19:14.400 --> 0:19:17.840 you heard Mike Lee, you heard Senator Eric Schmidt from Missouri. 0:19:17.920 --> 0:19:22.360 You had heard Representative Brandon Gill from Texas, and you'll 0:19:22.359 --> 0:19:25.560 hear a few other voices special guests when this thing 0:19:25.600 --> 0:19:28.640 premieres on July second. The reason that we did this 0:19:29.600 --> 0:19:33.719 is because America Face is a real choice. You know, 0:19:33.800 --> 0:19:35.840 there was just a Gallup poll this morning that came 0:19:35.840 --> 0:19:38.960 out that's just forty five percent of gen Zer's reporting 0:19:39.480 --> 0:19:44.600 report lacking meaning or purpose or both their lives. And 0:19:44.720 --> 0:19:47.040 they are getting to the age that the founding fathers 0:19:47.119 --> 0:19:50.159 were when they made that pledge, that solemn pledge, that 0:19:50.160 --> 0:19:53.160 pledge of their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor 0:19:53.440 --> 0:19:57.480 for their unalienable rights. Jefferson was thirty three, Madison was 0:19:57.520 --> 0:20:01.040 twenty five, Monroe is just eighteen at the time. And 0:20:01.560 --> 0:20:03.840 we made this to try to inspire people to a 0:20:03.880 --> 0:20:06.720 higher form of politics, to recover the virtues that our 0:20:06.800 --> 0:20:12.280 founders displayed through their political action, to save this country, 0:20:12.280 --> 0:20:14.760 to save the republic that they entrusted to us. Because 0:20:14.800 --> 0:20:19.400 every generation has to recommit themselves to that pledge, that 0:20:19.440 --> 0:20:22.400 pledge of their sacred honor for those rights, for life, liberty, 0:20:22.480 --> 0:20:24.919 and the pursuit of happiness, because if it goes wrong. 0:20:25.800 --> 0:20:29.119 Marx was twenty nine, Engels was twenty seven when they 0:20:29.119 --> 0:20:32.679 wrote The Communist manifesto. Fidel was thirty and Chae Guervo 0:20:32.760 --> 0:20:36.320 was twenty seven when Cuba had its revolution. So it 0:20:36.359 --> 0:20:37.840 could go one or two ways for this country in 0:20:37.840 --> 0:20:39.800 the next two hundred and fifty years. We could lose 0:20:39.800 --> 0:20:40.920 it a whole lot quicker than that. 0:20:41.240 --> 0:20:44.639 And that's why we made this well, I mean, the 0:20:44.800 --> 0:20:49.520 timing couldn't be better. It is so needed and so desperate. 0:20:49.960 --> 0:20:54.040 Let's go back to that poll, because you know, generations, 0:20:54.160 --> 0:20:59.520 they have different experiences. Like it's hard for me to believe. 0:21:00.040 --> 0:21:02.399 I'm still having a hard time like admitting it. But 0:21:02.440 --> 0:21:05.560 I have six grandkids and we got a three year 0:21:05.560 --> 0:21:09.120 old grandchild and she's just so cute, so wonderful. Well, 0:21:09.160 --> 0:21:12.119 she knows how to take that phone of her mom. 0:21:12.440 --> 0:21:14.320 She doesn't have her own phone, but she dicks her 0:21:14.320 --> 0:21:17.240 mom's phone. She can type in the four digits. She 0:21:17.280 --> 0:21:20.000 knows the four numbers, and then she hits the little 0:21:20.000 --> 0:21:23.600 green button and that's the face time and then she 0:21:23.760 --> 0:21:26.160 can see my picture and she'll hit it and I'll 0:21:26.160 --> 0:21:29.320 get a couple of times a day I'll get this 0:21:29.560 --> 0:21:33.480 sweet little grandchild will be facetiming me because she's already 0:21:33.520 --> 0:21:37.840 and she's three and so like the whole world is 0:21:37.920 --> 0:21:42.560 so different that the it's just upside. It's just different 0:21:42.640 --> 0:21:44.960 than how, you know, the rotary phones that I had 0:21:45.000 --> 0:21:48.280 when I was growing up. So but this, this pole, 0:21:48.440 --> 0:21:51.480 this gallup pole, it really is disturbing. Walk us through 0:21:52.680 --> 0:21:56.320 what this generation, these new younger generations are going through. 0:21:58.600 --> 0:22:01.280 Yeah, this is you know, I'm so glad that your 0:22:01.320 --> 0:22:04.879 grandchildren are using it to connect with their family. But 0:22:04.960 --> 0:22:08.760 most people aren't riting that technology in this way. They 0:22:08.760 --> 0:22:11.920 are using it and becoming more isolated and more insular. 0:22:12.280 --> 0:22:14.920 And as they become more isolated and more insular, they're 0:22:14.920 --> 0:22:17.560 feeling lonely. They don't feel like they're part of something higher, 0:22:17.840 --> 0:22:21.040 part of something meaningful, part of something as a collective, 0:22:21.080 --> 0:22:24.240 whether that's a community or a locality, right, your local 0:22:24.359 --> 0:22:27.760 rotary club or a church, or it's something bigger. It's 0:22:27.800 --> 0:22:32.280 the nation, right, it's this country that every generation has 0:22:32.520 --> 0:22:36.800 fought to defend. And I see these trends and how 0:22:36.880 --> 0:22:39.520 familiar they are to other episodes in history that we 0:22:39.640 --> 0:22:42.840 just talked about. Right, Marx and Angles are writing the 0:22:42.880 --> 0:22:46.240 Communist Manifesto amongst a large upheaval in Europe and the 0:22:46.280 --> 0:22:50.359 beginnings of the Industrial Revolution. How do we adjust to 0:22:50.440 --> 0:22:52.560 that major change. You can go one or two ways. 0:22:52.600 --> 0:22:55.320 We can you know, answer the call of the Enlightenment 0:22:55.960 --> 0:22:59.239 and mix that modern and ancient thinking into something like 0:22:59.240 --> 0:23:01.960 the Founding, or it can go terrible and we get 0:23:02.000 --> 0:23:05.119 something like the Russian Revolution and the Communist Manifesto a 0:23:05.160 --> 0:23:09.040 few decades before it. Or we have the communist revolutions 0:23:09.040 --> 0:23:13.000 that follow the upheaval and the destruction that was World 0:23:13.000 --> 0:23:16.040 War Two. And here we are today, Jason, in a 0:23:16.320 --> 0:23:20.679 very similar situation. We have Ai. Right, Pope Leo chose 0:23:20.720 --> 0:23:24.560 his name because he's hearkening back to the previous Pope Leo, 0:23:24.600 --> 0:23:27.000