WEBVTT - Gary Vee at Super Bowl LIX | Ep #80 0:00:11.600 --> 0:00:12.040 I got that. 0:00:12.080 --> 0:00:13.800 I love dude, a guy I love catch it up 0:00:13.840 --> 0:00:15.040 with anytime we have a chance to. 0:00:15.360 --> 0:00:16.200 He's a nice felma. 0:00:16.239 --> 0:00:21.160 He's got over fifty million followers, super successful entrepreneur and friend. 0:00:21.239 --> 0:00:23.759 Let's welcome back, Gary Vaynard chew boy. 0:00:23.920 --> 0:00:27.120 Yeah, you're one of those guys that like high school pals, 0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:30.240 people like you know, Gary Vee. It's hilarious. You're reached 0:00:30.560 --> 0:00:33.000 to so many different groups of people. It's so weird. 0:00:33.120 --> 0:00:36.600 I literally, as we just sat down here, said to myself, 0:00:36.920 --> 0:00:38.839 I can't believe you just used that word. I literally 0:00:38.880 --> 0:00:40.680 said to myself, I feel like I went to high 0:00:40.680 --> 0:00:43.640 school with these guys. Like every time I'm here at 0:00:43.680 --> 0:00:45.559 so cozy. First of all, that's very flattery. I think 0:00:45.560 --> 0:00:48.400 it's because and it is really weird when I'm in 0:00:48.400 --> 0:00:50.839 the airport with somebody for the first time. In my companies, 0:00:50.840 --> 0:00:55.240 they're always weirded out by how completely left field the 0:00:55.320 --> 0:00:57.720 people that come up to me. It's like a seventy 0:00:57.720 --> 0:01:00.920 two year old grandma Asian grandma come up and then 0:01:00.960 --> 0:01:03.840 like an eighteen year old like guy, you know, like 0:01:03.920 --> 0:01:07.679 it's it's I think it's because I talk about very 0:01:07.720 --> 0:01:09.560 simple stuff. At the end of the day, which is 0:01:09.680 --> 0:01:13.480 like human right, yeah, you know yeah, it's and I 0:01:13.800 --> 0:01:16.840 think that that means it's going to catch a broad market. 0:01:17.240 --> 0:01:19.479 Gary Ve hanging out you all right, Rich? I feel 0:01:19.480 --> 0:01:20.600 you get an. 0:01:20.560 --> 0:01:25.200 Emotional Get emotional. We're talking about humanity, you know what, Gary. 0:01:25.400 --> 0:01:28.679 I grew up going to crazy eddies, buying cassettes and 0:01:28.720 --> 0:01:30.720 things like that price Price were insane. 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:32.800 I remember buying Twisted Sister. 0:01:33.480 --> 0:01:35.959 The album was Stay Hungry, Bro, And I say that 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:38.600 Captain Howdy, Captain had. 0:01:38.080 --> 0:01:40.360 Give me something for that pull. Give me something for 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:40.839 that pull. 0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:41.160 Yo. 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:44.959 I love Captain Howdy. We're we're not. Do you understand 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:46.440 how old are you? Forty eight? 0:01:46.560 --> 0:01:46.800 Yeah? 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:47.199 Exactly? 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:47.880 I'm forty nine. 0:01:47.960 --> 0:01:48.160 Bro. 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:50.760 Can we explain to the kids that are listening that 0:01:50.920 --> 0:01:55.920 Twisted Sister summer when MTV was just becoming MTV, like 0:01:56.040 --> 0:01:57.280 we're not gonna take it? 0:01:57.440 --> 0:02:00.560 Everything was life. I want to life, but. 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:03.880 I stayed away with life, but I stayed hungry too. Right, 0:02:04.240 --> 0:02:06.680 How do you stay hungry which you have? How do 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:08.120 you stay humble while doing it? 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:12.920 Honestly? Good parenting? The answer to my question is I 0:02:12.960 --> 0:02:15.600 was parented well, and I got fortunate that I was. 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:18.480 I actually I'm glad I'm getting to say this. I 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:20.960 believe the best thing that could ever happen to you 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:23.520 is you're born into a family that does not have 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:27.760 much financially but has a deep happiness and love in 0:02:27.800 --> 0:02:30.280 the home. Because I think what happens to you in 0:02:30.360 --> 0:02:32.520 those first five to seven years as a human being 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:37.880 is you're consciously and subconsciously learning that money has no 0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:41.080 impact on happiness. I am the byproduct of that. Right, 0:02:41.160 --> 0:02:43.480 we have nothing. We were immigrants from the Soviet Union. 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:45.960 I lived in a studio apartment in Rigo Park, Queen's 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:49.040 with six other people in a studio. You know, that 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:50.919 was my starting point of my memories. 0:02:51.480 --> 0:02:51.680 You know. 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:56.560 So I think that I'm hungry because I wasn't fed, right, Yeah, right, 0:02:56.639 --> 0:02:58.639 I was. I'm hungry because I wasn't fed. And I'm 0:02:58.760 --> 0:03:02.040 humble because I'm as well parented. I was taught that, 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:05.920 you know, you treat people well. And all the nice 0:03:05.960 --> 0:03:08.200 things that have happened to me making money and having 0:03:08.280 --> 0:03:12.919 lots of followers, it hasn't It hasn't changed me. It's 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:15.280 exposed who I am. And I think money and fame 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:17.600 expose you, they don't change you. 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:21.239 Because how many people have you seen their star rise, 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:23.600 their income rise, and they sort of change and they 0:03:23.600 --> 0:03:26.720 feel themselves a little bit and and I feel. 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:28.720 They're exposing themselves. I feel like that's who they were, 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:32.280 that's who they are, and then vice versa. I feel 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:34.560 like there's a lot of people. Actually it's so weird. 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:37.080 I know Joe pretty well. Joe Burrow's going on some 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:40.600 show right now over there. Right, yeah, I've known. I 0:03:40.880 --> 0:03:44.960 recruited him for Vayner Sports before he transferred to LSU. Right, 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:48.560 He's the same exact human being right now, you can 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:51.920 tell me that's why's why people love him. And I 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:54.880 think that's the punchline. I could not recommend more to 0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:57.440 people who are on a journey of getting bigger if 0:03:57.440 --> 0:03:59.760 they feel like they're getting successful, that if you're not, 0:04:00.560 --> 0:04:02.680 you should go into therapy, you should work on something, 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:05.640 you should fix it, because what's gonna happen is you're 0:04:05.640 --> 0:04:08.880 gonna expose yourself to the world and they're gonna smell 0:04:08.920 --> 0:04:10.760 it and they're gonna figure it out pretty quickly of 0:04:10.760 --> 0:04:11.240 who you are. 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:14.160 Gary, I have two little kids and now I'm in 0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:17.800 the coaching world, and I wanted to ask you, I mean, 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:20.960 how do you approach giving these kids confidence, not being 0:04:21.000 --> 0:04:23.320 too tough, yet being tough because I think about what 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:26.640 you said. There are times, even outside of coaching kids 0:04:27.040 --> 0:04:29.520 going to a theme park, not trying to spoil your kids, 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:30.720 but wanting to give them crap. 0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:32.400 I never know how to handle all this stuff. 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:37.680 Every single parent on Earth makes mistakes. We're all just trying. Yeah, 0:04:37.720 --> 0:04:42.279 you know, heck, I mean I My son is weirdly 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:45.280 good at basketball. You know, he's a twelve year old. 0:04:45.400 --> 0:04:48.360 He's a sixth graders. He made the seventh and eighth 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:50.920 grade team, which was already like a oh my god. 0:04:51.160 --> 0:04:54.080 Now three games he's the starting point guard. And by 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:57.040 the way, he's half the size of every sixth grader 0:04:57.080 --> 0:04:59.279 on Earth. He's the size of a third grader. He's 0:04:59.279 --> 0:05:01.640 in the seventh day eighth grade league, and he's cooking 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:06.240 these kids. And honestly, last game, I'm gonna put him 0:05:06.279 --> 0:05:10.000 on blast. Last game, he's dominating the game. By the way, 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:11.880 all these kids were so affected by Steph Curdy. The 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:14.640 reason he's dominating is his handle's crazy. Oh yeah, some 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:18.000 of these kids, yeah crazy. Anyway, he's dominating the game. 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:21.640 His heel starts to bother him and he sits for 0:05:21.720 --> 0:05:25.560 the third and the majority fourth quarter. They're up twenty 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:28.480 with him in, they're up two with two minutes left 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:31.719 with him out, and I'm like looking at him, and 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:33.760 I'm like, get you can't curse on this shit. 0:05:33.800 --> 0:05:36.800 This is bonus podcast. We're gonna put. I'm like, get 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:38.279 your fucking in the game. 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:41.280 And I know, and I know I'm doing a nineteen 0:05:41.400 --> 0:05:44.120 sixty four dad thing right now, and I'll be I'm 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:46.479 so glad we're on the podcast. I don't give a fuck. 0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:48.880 I'm like, get in the fucking game. And he and 0:05:48.920 --> 0:05:51.640 he does, and he gets in the game. First, I'm 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:55.560 full brag mode. First play steals the ball out left pass. 0:05:55.720 --> 0:05:58.599 Now they're up four. Next play steals the ball pass, 0:05:58.800 --> 0:06:01.360 guy gets fouled. The game's open. He and I'm like, 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:04.599 and to me, I could feel all the other parents 0:06:04.800 --> 0:06:07.680 judgment of me pushing him to go in the game. 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:10.680 I could feel it. Yeah, it's twenty twenty five in 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:12.479 New York City. What the fuck you think I'm dealing with? Yeah, 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:15.120 And I could feel it. I could feel them judging 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:18.080 me and feeling bad. And Xander's reacting on the other 0:06:18.160 --> 0:06:20.719 side of it, like not, well, he's like my like, 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:22.400 he's not it's not like he's it's not like he's 0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:25.320 getting motivated. He's not getting gary Veed. I'm not Gary 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:28.040 Veed and my son, I'm his dad. He's not getting motivated. 0:06:28.279 --> 0:06:31.880 He's like annoyed with me. But he goes in and 0:06:31.880 --> 0:06:35.080 and when I tell you my conversation with him that 0:06:35.240 --> 0:06:38.000 night and then the next morning I took him to school, 0:06:38.279 --> 0:06:42.760 I could smell what happened. He persevered through something, he 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:44.880 pushed himself to a place he didn't think he was 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:48.240 ready to do. And he not only that, it worked 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:49.800 a lot of times when you do that. And there's 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:51.880 been different versions of this story where like nothing cool 0:06:51.920 --> 0:06:55.039 happened right in this scenario, a very the kind of 0:06:55.040 --> 0:06:57.320 cool thing that weirdly he might tell forever, like let 0:06:57.320 --> 0:06:58.280 me tell you the game when I was. 0:06:58.200 --> 0:07:00.520 Tweaty, my heel hurt, my dad push and it was 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:00.920 a great thing. 0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:02.520 By the way, the dad part won't be in that story. 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:03.640 It's like I got the man. 0:07:03.880 --> 0:07:06.120 Yeah, so here's what I would say. 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:08.520 Yeah, there's been times I've done that and it didn't 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:08.920 go well. 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:10.080 You over pushed a. 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:12.080 Little bit of all that stuff. There's times where it 0:07:12.080 --> 0:07:14.440 did go. Well, every one of us is struggling with it. 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:18.120 What I would say to every dad who's listening, every 0:07:18.200 --> 0:07:21.240 mom who's listening, you've got to go with intuition, and 0:07:21.280 --> 0:07:24.320 you've got to try both. If you're like a crazy 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:26.520 Marinovitch dad, where you're just like driving your kid to 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:29.040 the ground, and you never have I've gone soft on 0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:31.080 him at times, you gotta. 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:32.040 Play the situation. 0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:35.600 There's no all these parents read all these goddamn books. Now, 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:39.680 it's like, just be a human and sometimes push and 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:42.800 sometimes don't find. You know, back to America right now. 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:45.520 Don't be fully red, don't be fucking fully blue. 0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:49.760 Be purple. Sometimes you left, sometimes you right. Dad, fucking 0:07:49.800 --> 0:07:50.680 mix it, dude. 0:07:50.920 --> 0:07:54.120 I always say, a Cavino Taco party of one, how 0:07:54.160 --> 0:07:56.320 could you go so far left, so far right? You 0:07:56.320 --> 0:08:00.320 gotta play it by ear fully purple, fully gotta be purple. 0:08:00.360 --> 0:08:02.680 Every situation is different. I remember, I remember, hold on, 0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:03.200 I was, I was. 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:05.520 I was coaching the kids and I can see the 0:08:05.560 --> 0:08:08.160 girls are like, you're just being lazy seven year old 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:11.200 girls softball? And I said, hey, girls, like you know, 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:14.480 how about we play let's play a little mad? 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:16.880 Do you ever get mad? And you're angry. One of 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:19.040 the parents is like, I would not tell the kids 0:08:19.080 --> 0:08:21.440 to play mad. I'm like, why not? 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:24.640 Don't then leave because because it's sports, you have I 0:08:24.680 --> 0:08:26.360 play mad. I was like, the other girls are hustling 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:27.640 on the other team. Don't you want to beat them? 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:29.960 Let's play a little mad. I got like, yelled, I'm 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:32.160 actually the reverse. I don't know if I've ever played 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:35.480 anything not mad. Yeah, mad is how I play. 0:08:35.880 --> 0:08:36.080 Yeah. 0:08:36.360 --> 0:08:39.200 Hey, speaking of I think the Eagles are playing mad 0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:42.679 because they want revenge. I think the Chiefs want that 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:44.839 three p Yeah, it's big. So what's more of a 0:08:44.960 --> 0:08:47.000 motivator in your mind? Based on that theory? 0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:49.559 I think at this level and those circumstances, I think 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:52.240 it's an even steven Okay, yeah, I really do. And 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:55.280 then it becomes individual Like I'm watching two NFL players 0:08:55.280 --> 0:08:58.160 talk to each other. I think it's Salomon Thomas, Jets 0:08:58.200 --> 0:08:59.760 player currently, but he'll be a free agent. 0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:01.400 Your eyes are better than mine, broh. 0:09:01.880 --> 0:09:03.720 And they're talking and I look at both of them, 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:06.800 and what you really learn is on the fifty three men, 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:10.760 it varies within them. There's forty one Eagles and forty 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:13.880 one Chiefs. This Sunday that are gonna play like their 0:09:14.440 --> 0:09:18.160 life depends on it. But don't get it twisted. There'll 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:21.079 be twelve that are playing it chill and are thinking 0:09:21.120 --> 0:09:24.599 about their vacation like you'd be surprised, right, you know, 0:09:24.679 --> 0:09:27.079 And that's okay, That's how life is. Everyone's a little different. 0:09:27.160 --> 0:09:31.160 You know. Gary loves to talk about how you love losing. Yes, 0:09:31.360 --> 0:09:32.200 And I'll be honest. 0:09:32.280 --> 0:09:34.400 Cavino and I debate this all the time that there 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:36.640 are times where I feel like he's not vote motivated 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:38.200 in less is a chip on his shoulder? 0:09:38.640 --> 0:09:41.360 Listen? Is that how you think a healthy way to operate? 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:43.800 It's a tostito, but yes, yes, I. 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:50.960 Am very motivated by losing in things that don't matter, sports, 0:09:51.200 --> 0:09:54.120 more games, in life. I do think a chip on 0:09:54.240 --> 0:09:57.120 the shoulder is a good one, but I fear when 0:09:57.160 --> 0:09:59.679 it becomes too big. I think you can get a 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:01.880 little bit Darth Vader, do you know what I mean? 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:05.360 I think there's a dark side to the chip, like 0:10:05.800 --> 0:10:08.360 like Michael Jordan, right, you know, like, yeah, I think 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:14.400 it's dark over there. Documentary opened honestly, that was his documentary, 0:10:14.480 --> 0:10:18.880 just so yeah, it gets way darker than that. It's 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:19.840 way darker than that. 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:23.199 When you saw him in that documenty sitting there like, 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:24.800 this guy's a little bit of a crazy man. 0:10:25.160 --> 0:10:27.400 Way darker than that. So you know, I think, I 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:31.320 think that a chip on the shoulder is good, especially 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:34.520 when it's silly stuff, a softball game, a game of monopoly, 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:38.559 like I love. I love competition that is erratic and 0:10:38.760 --> 0:10:42.719 ridiculous in lightweight stuff. I don't like it as much 0:10:42.760 --> 0:10:45.480 in life, Like you're so mad at your dad for 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:48.319 the way he parented you, that your whole life's about, Like, 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:52.199 I'll show dad it's I think there's a point where 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:55.040 that becomes so unhealthy, and I feel like there I 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:56.839 would like to see a little more purple. Does that 0:10:56.880 --> 0:10:57.240 make sense? 0:10:57.360 --> 0:10:57.560 Yeah? 0:10:57.640 --> 0:11:00.520 Speaking of competition, Gary v could Know and Rich with 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:03.440 Gary Vaynerchuk got to ask you, who is your competition? 0:11:03.679 --> 0:11:05.920 How do you view that? Do you see these other 0:11:06.200 --> 0:11:09.200 entrepreneurs on social media? I know I'm good for them. 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:09.839 I'm good like that. 0:11:09.960 --> 0:11:10.160 Yeah. 0:11:10.320 --> 0:11:12.720 I'm a big believer that no one's taking your food, 0:11:13.960 --> 0:11:16.559 Nobody's winning is coming out of my winning. I believe 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:20.920 in massive abundance. Look there, listen, I'm I'm competitive, like 0:11:21.040 --> 0:11:24.360 I anything I start, I want to be as good 0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:27.640 at it as possible. I this is where I don't 0:11:27.920 --> 0:11:30.880 go evil. This is where my optimism kicks in. If 0:11:30.960 --> 0:11:34.280 somebody comes along and has a bigger podcast, a mass 0:11:34.480 --> 0:11:38.240 is more followers, or gets heat for similar things I 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:41.120 talk about, I'd cheer for them. When I did the 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:44.480 NFTs You Friends was a monster, and then out of nowhere, 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:47.599 bored Ape Yacht Club came and passed us. I was 0:11:47.720 --> 0:11:51.480 happy for those dudes. Do I want Did I want 0:11:51.640 --> 0:11:54.719 V Friends to be bigger? Of course I did, But no, 0:11:54.920 --> 0:11:57.320 I don't. I don't have a lot of envy or jealousy. 0:11:57.880 --> 0:12:00.480 I really don't. It's I'm very fortunate. And again I 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:03.120 say that, not like I'm cool or awesome. That's the 0:12:03.240 --> 0:12:05.200 luck of the draw of the moment my parents had 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:08.280 sex and I was formed. That's the DNA ship, you 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:11.600 know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, that was just never 0:12:11.800 --> 0:12:15.440 in me. I'm competitive, but I really do not think 0:12:15.840 --> 0:12:20.200 that somebody's podcast, listen, somebody's sale of a bottle of wine. 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:23.280 I don't think a new wine store that affects wine. 0:12:23.360 --> 0:12:26.000 Text you know, is like, I'm not mad at them, 0:12:26.040 --> 0:12:26.720 but I'm competing. 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:27.280 I want to win. 0:12:27.480 --> 0:12:30.040 Yeah, you know, talking about the unhealthy. I was telling 0:12:30.080 --> 0:12:32.480 Kevino story I'd never told her before. We're having the 0:12:32.640 --> 0:12:36.720 uh little pizza dinner. Yes, my daughter's soccer team. One 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:38.719 of the dad, the one dad who's the guy that's 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:42.959 pacing every game, yelling and screening our Sabrina. You know, Becky, 0:12:43.400 --> 0:12:44.480 this guy's yelling the whole time. 0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:45.000 He's into it. 0:12:45.200 --> 0:12:47.760 He stands up at the dinner and he's like, I 0:12:47.840 --> 0:12:49.600 just want to apologize all the parents for me being 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:52.520 very intense this year. It's because my dad never loved me, 0:12:53.679 --> 0:12:55.120 and I just want my kids to be proud. And 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:56.800 we all looked at each other, like, Wow, this guy's 0:12:58.240 --> 0:13:00.200 that's a lot of weight, man, a lot of it's 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:01.480 I really believe in that ship. 0:13:01.600 --> 0:13:06.040 I I genuinely believe that every single person's bad behavior 0:13:06.920 --> 0:13:08.920 is completely predicated on insecurity. 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:09.520 Yeah. 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:13.319 I like, like everybody who does bad ship in the world, 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:16.880 every single person that does bad ship in the world 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:20.560 is doing it because they're insecure. I genuinely believe. 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:23.440 From speaking of insecure, we talk all the time about 0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:24.720 how social media. 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:27.360 Creates a lot of insecurity because I think younger people 0:13:27.360 --> 0:13:30.240 don't realize that's the highlight reel and every you know 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:32.520 that mindset young people have, like everyone's living a better 0:13:32.640 --> 0:13:35.319 life than I am. How do you convince a young 0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:37.960 person they're not buddy that this is all fake shit? 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:41.120 Honestly, listen, you guys know this. We grew up with 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:43.920 MTV cribs. We grew up with lifestyles of the rich 0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:48.760 and famous. Were you know, like like this this excuse 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:51.520 that's social has I think this is bad parenting. I 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:55.679 don't think it's social. I think that our parents were 0:13:56.320 --> 0:14:00.800 different thirty They were different when when when we were like, 0:14:01.240 --> 0:14:03.640 h I'm sad that I don't have a Mercedes Benz 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:06.679 Dad's in eighty four were like, shut the fuck up 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:08.840 and get to work and buy Mercedes if you want one. 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:12.160 Now we're like, I'll buy it for you, Johnny. Let's 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:13.280 just get to the punchline. 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:13.520 Listen. 0:14:13.559 --> 0:14:16.200 If you're listening to the podcast, I'm suffocating this shit. 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:21.280 Stop blaming Instagram, stop blaming China, stop blaming fucking all 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:26.000 this other bullshit. You're a fucking parent if you don't. 0:14:26.280 --> 0:14:28.920 If you don't like that your kids are on TikTok, 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:33.480 delete the app, especially right now because they can't reload it. Actually, 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:35.960 right now, by the way parents, Once and for all, 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:38.880 you're so fucking scared of TikTok and so bad when 0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:41.480 your kid is sleeping, delete it. They can't get it 0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:44.600 back on their phone. Step up, Oh Gary, I can't 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:47.920 do that. All his friends, all her friends have it. 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:50.760 What the fuck are you talking about? You're folding the 0:14:50.880 --> 0:14:54.040 sixth grade peer pressure? Once and for all. We are 0:14:54.120 --> 0:14:57.920 filled with excuses. Be a fucking parent, Gary, your kids? 0:14:58.040 --> 0:15:01.480 What four years or so away from does Gary Vee 0:15:01.560 --> 0:15:03.320 get his kid a new car when the time is 0:15:03.400 --> 0:15:05.240 right or is it an old school lesson of like 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:06.600 you got to earn the yeah, man? 0:15:06.760 --> 0:15:08.240 Like, how does that work in your world? 0:15:08.880 --> 0:15:13.600 In my personal situation, my ex wife is gonna we're 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:15.840 in a situation where she'll make some decisions that I 0:15:15.960 --> 0:15:19.040 can't fully control. So will I buy them a new car? 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:19.200 No? 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:21.680 I will not. Will they have a brand new car? 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:22.400 Probably? 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:24.280 It's you know, I don't want to speak for her, 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:25.560 but like, it's it's in the cards. 0:15:25.640 --> 0:15:26.240 It's in the cards. 0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:28.080 Hey listen, I co parent and there's a lot of 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:32.400 people in that situation. How do you balance your work 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:33.520 life harmony? 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:35.240 Like, how do you do that? Right now? 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:38.160 My real life with my right by realizing there is 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:41.240 no balance, there is no harmony. Obviously, my kids have 0:15:41.320 --> 0:15:43.040 the best mom in the world. That she's an incredible mother, 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:44.560 and so I'm very fortunate on that front. Like, you 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:46.040 do the best you can. This is like the whole 0:15:46.080 --> 0:15:48.320 thing for all parents. We're just all doing the best 0:15:48.360 --> 0:15:51.720 we can. Like, what is balance? Is it? Are you 0:15:52.160 --> 0:15:52.680 fifty fifty? 0:15:52.840 --> 0:15:55.480 Figure out how far you've come as a business guy? Right? 0:15:55.640 --> 0:15:57.600 You still gotta be there. You got to show up. 0:15:57.840 --> 0:15:59.880 That's a major part of your life. 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:03.680 Yeah, honestly, like some days the business takes to ll 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:05.760 some days the kids don't get you there. But the 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:07.520 other thing I would say to people that have very 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:11.560 young kids, I want them to hear this, this concept 0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:14.120 that you have to be at every single thing. Again, 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:18.760 this goes to purple. We've become too left. Everybody overcompensated 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:21.320 the red with the blue pill. We got to get 0:16:21.360 --> 0:16:25.600 the purple. In fact, I actually think it's healthy for 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:29.880 a kid that's seven that you've gone to thirteen straight 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:33.640 recitals or basketball games that if you miss one. 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:35.680 I couldn't agree more. Man, that's real. 0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:39.720 Parents are just extending themselves in crazy ways, putting so 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:42.360 much pressure on themselves, and I mean there's certain things 0:16:42.400 --> 0:16:42.920 that you get. 0:16:42.920 --> 0:16:45.160 By the way, and it's always like Wednesday at two pm, 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:47.600 and I'm like, and I'm always trying to manage my schedule. 0:16:47.800 --> 0:16:50.280 Thank you for that, because now I'm like, today I 0:16:50.360 --> 0:16:52.080 felt a little guilty and me has a little thing 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:54.840 at the school and Sarah's like, I'll tape it on 0:16:54.920 --> 0:16:55.240 my phone. 0:16:55.320 --> 0:16:58.040 I'm like, okay, should I FaceTime you? I'm like, no, 0:16:58.240 --> 0:16:59.520 it's I think we'll be okay. 0:16:59.760 --> 0:17:02.520 I think this is a huge issue. And the punchline 0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:05.680 is your kids care about the depth, not the width. 0:17:06.560 --> 0:17:08.840 There's a lot of parents right now just checking the boxes. 0:17:09.080 --> 0:17:11.080 So great, I'm glad you went to Emmy's little thing. 0:17:11.119 --> 0:17:12.440 You were looking at your phone the whole time and 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:15.160 Emmy saw it. Yeah, so me knows that actually doesn't 0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:17.639 give a ship like like like to me, it's like 0:17:17.760 --> 0:17:22.000 we're checking boxes. These kids are not dumb. Yeah, do 0:17:22.560 --> 0:17:24.119 you actually give a shit about them? Are you in 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:24.639 their life? 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:26.800 Do you talk to them? Do you care? 0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:29.080 They don't need you to check every body. By the way, 0:17:29.080 --> 0:17:30.359 there's our next president, Stephen A. 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:37.520 Smith. There is Stephen A President President President. Yeah. 0:17:37.520 --> 0:17:39.560 I mean I think you know I think that there's 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:43.560 just a lot, a lot, a lot to this whole game, 0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:47.760 and it all is finding the middle. The extremes have 0:17:47.920 --> 0:17:52.119 fucked up everything politically, in parenting, in society. Are you 0:17:52.200 --> 0:17:54.080 fascinated to when you see half the people you know 0:17:54.280 --> 0:17:56.040 thinking the world's coming to an end now and half 0:17:56.040 --> 0:17:58.359 of your friends like this is the greatest time ever? Like, No, 0:17:58.560 --> 0:18:01.200 because that's that's been the way for years. I've been 0:18:01.280 --> 0:18:03.640 I like politics, yeah, and I like human behavior. 0:18:03.720 --> 0:18:03.880 Yeah. 0:18:04.040 --> 0:18:05.880 So this, I mean, this goes back to bush Gore 0:18:06.040 --> 0:18:08.000 for me. This is like this has been going on 0:18:08.119 --> 0:18:11.359 for a much longer time. Obviously it's now amplified, but 0:18:12.000 --> 0:18:14.800