1 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: In my last relationship, and I talked about this last 2 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: week too, Like I mentioned open, this is before we 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: did this? Was this before we did the recording? I 4 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: feel like it was you had his email and I 5 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: saw he was still communicating with some bitches that I 6 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: had actually forbid him. Like I would never like say 7 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: you can't be friends with these people, but these particular 8 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 1: two people, like they've vandalized ship, They've done dumb ship. 9 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: So I'm like, and once we start elevating and these 10 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: people are still in your life, like they see red 11 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 1: when they don't get their fucking weight. So I don't 12 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:36,840 Speaker 1: ever want that type of person around me man or woman, 13 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: And you should feel the same way. But he was 14 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: still communicating with them, So I'm like, listen, you want 15 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: an open relationship, Like that's how I started the conversation, 16 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: Like do you? So, then that way you won't feel 17 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: like you're having a sneak. You won't have to do 18 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: this via email. You could just text them or call 19 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: them on the phone in front of me if you 20 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: wanted to, just as long as you know I'm on 21 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: the same type of time. But that's not something that 22 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: and maybe this is, uh, this is would you say 23 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: that an open relationship, you see that more in the 24 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: white community as opposed to black Like, how many people, 25 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: how many black people beyond an open relationship? What the 26 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: guy and girlfriend relationship? Big big lariously. I don't know. 27 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: We have a ton of couples and open relationships. But 28 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: I've met mostly white people. Yeah, mostly white people, like 29 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: usually weird white people. But are they still together? I 30 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: feel like this, this would be the um case study. 31 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: Most of them are married, or that's what I'm saying, Like, 32 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: I feel like relationships like that may last longer because 33 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: what do you have? You have nothing to hide. I 34 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: think with regard to that, it starts that way if 35 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: that any point later in the relationship you introduce it, 36 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: not unless you're just very open with everything else like that. 37 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: That was a conversation in my last relation because he 38 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: he was like, you know, before we break up, maybe 39 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: we should try and open relation. I'm like, no, because 40 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: when we first met, you were doing you and I 41 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: was doing me this much waiting on you, so you 42 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: no longer have that opportunity. I would do something like 43 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: that with a new person, where we set those ground 44 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: rules one yeah, like that, I can't I can't do 45 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: that because you've lost that grace. And then I would 46 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 1: say to you, as you meet new people and men especially, 47 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: it's like, maybe don't reveal everything, but like talk about 48 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: that last relationship and how like this became a problem 49 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: and like we maybe should have started at the beginning 50 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: and then maybe it could have seen how it went 51 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: versus like you literally see him still sneaking and you're like, yo, 52 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 1: so do you want to open relationship for I can't 53 00:02:55,960 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: see you like yes, like what the fun? And then 54 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: just see his reaction too, because it's like you'll see 55 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 1: like he'll either he'll either get insecure and be like 56 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: want to protect his side, bitches, or he'll be like 57 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 1: and not want you to do it, or he'll be like, hey, 58 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 1: all right, I got three other people I'm already talking to, 59 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: Like go ahead, you can talk to people and then 60 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,239 Speaker 1: we can see where this goes. Like but not to 61 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,519 Speaker 1: just but like as far as like what happens long term, 62 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 1: it's like I haven't really been able to follow up 63 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: like with people that I met like online or like 64 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: that I talked to you that we're in open relationships. 65 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: But it's like oftentimes it just seems like if it 66 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: started that way, it's better and it has a long 67 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: term potential versus like whenever it gets introduced later as 68 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: a ditch effort to save the relationship. No, it's like 69 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: having a kid to save your marriage. It's like, yeah, 70 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: it's too your it's too gone, like you guys know, 71 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: because I think it's another misconception, or maybe I said 72 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: that before, but it's like people don't think that individuals 73 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: and open relationships are committed to one another. Like y'all committed, 74 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: y'all committed to whatever it is together, whatever it is, 75 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: and yeah, that's that's an importance, And it just seems 76 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 1: like a stronger a stronger relationship as far as I'm concerned. 77 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 1: That's the projection. That's the projection where they project in 78 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 1: their ego what they would think. Oh, if I'm in 79 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 1: that situation, then we're not committed to each other. Because 80 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: my version of commitment is you do exactly what the 81 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: funk I want you to do whenever the funk I 82 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: want you to do it. That's insecurity. That's ego projecting. 83 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: That should happen to me all the time. It literally 84 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: it would hurt. It would hurt my heart though, because 85 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 1: people would be coming at me straight up, don't even 86 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: know me. They're like, and then they just straight up 87 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: killing me, just like you are this, you are that, 88 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 1: you need Jesus, you need this, you need that. You 89 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 1: don't know it's this child. They're in fake ass monogamous 90 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: relationships where where he's sucking a bunch of business and 91 00:04:58,080 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: then one day you like, funk that I'm gonna go 92 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: a nigger, Like that's just what happens, and it's just 93 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: is And here's a lot to tell your stad was 94 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: all about it. Yeah you okay. So I was saying 95 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 1: something earlier and she just I think I got the 96 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 1: indicator that she disagreed. I was talking about the long 97 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: term thing, like if you start with it, it's good. 98 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 1: If you try to introduce it later, it's bad. She 99 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: had to rebuttal to that. I think. I'm just thinking 100 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 1: about the people that we do know, and I don't 101 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: think they I don't think any of them started out 102 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: in an open relationship, like we're the only ones I 103 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 1: know that have started that, But they did start with 104 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 1: open communication and openness, so like they may not have 105 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: been actively having sets with other people, but they were 106 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: able to openly communicate about things that they wanted and 107 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: what they just anything communication wise, if you're able to 108 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: communicate with and be honest with your partner, then I 109 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: feel like it's okay to introduced this idea, like, hey, 110 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 1: you know, we're both always horny, maybe we should other people? 111 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: What do you think, you know, or whatever it might be. 112 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: I think if you're able to openly communicate with your partner, 113 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: then I don't think there'd be anything wrong about bringing 114 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: up this idea. Yeah, that's probably a projection of mine too, 115 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: because based on based on my experience with having its 116 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 1: start and then it be you know, successful, So like 117 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: that's probably just that's that's my subjective experience. I mean, 118 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 1: like we were openly communicating. We weren't in an open 119 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 1: relationship when we started dating. Was it was unspoken