WEBVTT - 3 bold predictions for the Tigers' second half 

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<v Speaker 1>And welcome Inn to another episode of Tiger Territory, part

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<v Speaker 1>of the bout Territory Network Detroit Tigers podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm curiously with.

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<v Speaker 1>Me as always as a man who has been the

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<v Speaker 1>center of the fold, but never the centerfold.

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<v Speaker 2>He's Cody Standag and how we doing doing all right?

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<v Speaker 3>Kieren? Yeah? Oh man, Like maybe a lot of jokes there.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll probably just leave that one that would be, well, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>you know this is very entertaining people.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a place down here by where I live. It's

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<v Speaker 3>called Centerfold. My girlfriend's like, oh, this might be a

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<v Speaker 3>nice place for us to go eat. It's a strip club.

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<v Speaker 3>We have not been Tofold.

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<v Speaker 1>For the record, Well, if people just want to give

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<v Speaker 1>give me a thirty second tangent on something on that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of category, as we have fun here. During the

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<v Speaker 1>All Star break one time in Frisco, right by the

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<v Speaker 1>minor league ballpark the Text Rangers, double a affiliate, my

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<v Speaker 1>mom and I were looking for to go to lunch

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<v Speaker 1>and there was a place called Wild Pitch and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, baseball, Wild Pitch. This seems like just

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<v Speaker 1>a regular sports bar, right Mom and I walk in there.

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<v Speaker 2>Nope, not a regular sports bar. One of those uh

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<v Speaker 2>one of those.

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<v Speaker 1>Ones where the skin the clothing ratio was a little off,

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<v Speaker 1>if you know what I mean. So, uh, we still

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<v Speaker 1>ate there. You know, it's kind of awkward when you

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<v Speaker 1>walk in. You don't want to leave, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, yeah, yeah, it was a great mother's day.

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<v Speaker 2>So all right, that's what.

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<v Speaker 3>We get during the All Star break. I like it. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's probably.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely maybe maybe a preview what's what's to come during

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<v Speaker 1>Lockout season? All right, as we get to uh do

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<v Speaker 1>some more baseball matters here, Cody. You know, I was,

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking back on some of our topics in

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<v Speaker 1>our last episode and then, uh and like reflecting on

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<v Speaker 1>maybe some things that we missed or didn't quite get

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<v Speaker 1>to and and there was one thing that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>stuck out to me, and I was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like I talked about how much I really liked Derek

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<v Speaker 1>Hill Mike see him to have success. Then I actually

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<v Speaker 1>like went and looked at like his numbers, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>having himself a decent years. He's a one plus war

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<v Speaker 1>player right now. He's he's a two fifty eight hitter.

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<v Speaker 1>His ops against lefties is good. Like, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>to like about Derek Hill if you're a Philadelphia Phillies fan,

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<v Speaker 1>And so then transition to this, how do we feel

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<v Speaker 1>about the state of Tigers center field right now? Because

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<v Speaker 1>like it was something that I think coming into the

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<v Speaker 1>season you would have felt maybe some anxiousness, but overall,

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<v Speaker 1>you like the potential of the Tigers center field status

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<v Speaker 1>with Parker Meadows and we know what you know, Hobby

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<v Speaker 1>Bias could do defensively and and and all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, the majority of the season there's been

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<v Speaker 1>no Parker Medals and there's been no Hobby Bias and

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<v Speaker 1>so it was the Matt Berlan Show for a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Now James Outman is in the equation, So I just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of I just wanted to bring it up, like

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<v Speaker 1>because like the outfield itself is not does not great

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<v Speaker 1>out well in general, and these are in the and

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe that shouldn't be surprising when you're relying on

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<v Speaker 1>a Matt veering to play for a long time, play

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<v Speaker 1>nearly every day. Now it's more of a blatoon platoon

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<v Speaker 1>with James, we haven't really gotten into that with all

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<v Speaker 1>the other stuff going on. So I'm just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>curious how you feel about this, Like you know, pivotal position,

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<v Speaker 1>uh for the Tigers for that park, and and an

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<v Speaker 1>area that they obviously epicize in development. Just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>being below average right now, if you look at pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much every metric.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's worse than below average. The Tigers center fielders

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<v Speaker 3>this year combined negative two point one wins above replacement

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<v Speaker 3>for Baseball Reference that ranks thirtieth. That is not what

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<v Speaker 3>you want when you play in one of the biggest

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<v Speaker 3>parks in the league. Now, obviously injuries have been a

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<v Speaker 3>part of that, and the James Outman thing has made

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<v Speaker 3>this at least look or feel a little bit better.

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<v Speaker 3>The row number is still not a ton better. I

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<v Speaker 3>mean Outman's negative zero point two war since he's been

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<v Speaker 3>with the Tigers, But I overall do think the roster

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<v Speaker 3>is functioning a little better. You have a little more

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<v Speaker 3>confidence in the defense out there, and again outman and

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<v Speaker 3>center kind of can allow you to sometimes push Verer

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<v Speaker 3>Laying or someone else to right field, so sort of

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<v Speaker 3>strengthened that. Although Kerry Carpenter has still been playing a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of right field, the outman thing has been like

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<v Speaker 3>a slight improvement, and it was so bad you needed

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<v Speaker 3>any slight improvement you could get. That's why they did it,

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<v Speaker 3>and it has been a better use of a roster

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<v Speaker 3>spot than Zach Short was. I think the good news

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<v Speaker 3>here is that there's reason to believe center field can

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<v Speaker 3>be better in the second half. We don't really have

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<v Speaker 3>a great timeline for when Javier Buys is going to

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<v Speaker 3>be back, but seems like he could be back the Tigers.

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<v Speaker 3>The last update we heard on Parker Meadows wasn't overly encouraging.

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<v Speaker 3>Its sounded like the arm is healing slowly. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>it was a pretty bad fraction, but he still has

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<v Speaker 3>not been ruled out for the season, and you do

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<v Speaker 3>have Max Clark. He's done some nice things recently, could

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<v Speaker 3>be an option to debut at some point before the

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<v Speaker 3>end of the season. We can dive into all that

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit closer, but I think the good news

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<v Speaker 3>is you at least have options that should help in

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<v Speaker 3>some form or fashion between now and the end of

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<v Speaker 3>the year.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just looking at Outman's numbers, like it feels like

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<v Speaker 1>he's got it, had better than one forty eight average

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<v Speaker 1>with the Tigers.

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<v Speaker 3>It really does feel better than that. I don't it's

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<v Speaker 3>actually like, yeah, he's not been good but it feels

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<v Speaker 3>like he's been pretty good.

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<v Speaker 2>And then then you.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at he's got no doubles, but he's got a

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<v Speaker 1>triple in three home runs.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean? It is it is a

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<v Speaker 2>very peculiar thing.

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<v Speaker 1>He actually has like worse numbers with the Tigers in

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<v Speaker 1>Minnesota in some of these instances.

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<v Speaker 2>And they cast them away.

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<v Speaker 1>And I actually kind of feel decent about James Outman,

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<v Speaker 1>like as far as the ratio and the that we

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<v Speaker 1>that we talked about, and even looking at his platoons,

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<v Speaker 1>Cody Man here, you want you want to reverse split?

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<v Speaker 1>You want to reverse split for Outman. He is hitting

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<v Speaker 1>three thirty three versus left handed pitching and one fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>versus right handed pitching. So that's a that's a big

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<v Speaker 1>reverse split. Obviously not the most grand of sample sizes,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It is. It is kind of wild there.

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<v Speaker 1>So then the question becomes if, but again presumably Hobby

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<v Speaker 1>will be back. He you know, earlier this week had

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<v Speaker 1>a picture of or a video of him. He posted,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, hitting off the tee. It's hitting off the tee.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, I see anything baseball related from from

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<v Speaker 1>a guy injured.

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<v Speaker 3>It'd be nice if hobby could start speeding things along,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe like early August. Yeah, doable, hobby, I mean, hobby

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<v Speaker 3>on the phone. How are you feelings? Let's let's up

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit, let's.

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<v Speaker 1>Go and is it as simple as he becomes your

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<v Speaker 1>mostly every day center fielder when that's the case, or

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<v Speaker 1>like like it, like, what do you do you know

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<v Speaker 1>from a construction stamp outman?

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<v Speaker 4>I guess I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't. Then for as much as we say it

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<v Speaker 3>feels better, he can't hit one twenty eight forever. That's

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<v Speaker 3>eventually going to stop feeling so good, so that I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know, it's a question, might just be a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of hobby bios.

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<v Speaker 1>Karen, which was in text the question, It's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the things that we've forgotten is what it's

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<v Speaker 1>like to kind of experience that everyday hobby bias. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you and and and for for that, you know

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<v Speaker 1>you I'll remind people his numbers not a lot of power,

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<v Speaker 1>but he was batting two fifty two fifty six, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>solid defense, like really just an average player at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, what is average right now for a team

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<v Speaker 1>that is desperately trying to claw back into you know,

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<v Speaker 1>playoff contention and trying to you know, potentially like make

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<v Speaker 1>a run at division, make a run at a wildcard.

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<v Speaker 1>Berth like having having average in certain spots here, Cody

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<v Speaker 1>is like resents like a decent upgrade. And then if

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<v Speaker 1>you throw in the fact that like there is still

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<v Speaker 1>an energy to Hobby that I think, like maybe one

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<v Speaker 1>could argue was missing from this team and some in

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<v Speaker 1>some respects over the course of the first half that

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's there's actually like there is potential. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna like lay my reputation on the line here

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<v Speaker 1>to make this prediction, but there is potential that there

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<v Speaker 1>is some sort of like Hobby comes back. Then we

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<v Speaker 1>kind of and we kind of for remember that we

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<v Speaker 1>forgot as I punched through that like what he brings

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<v Speaker 1>on a daily basis in terms of upside, in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, you know, making these wild plays occasionally

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<v Speaker 1>that over the course of the second half of the

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<v Speaker 1>season could end up being the difference in a win,

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<v Speaker 1>and every single win, as we've talked about for the

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<v Speaker 1>last like six weeks, could come crucial come standing time, right, So,

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<v Speaker 1>like there there is that element to Hot that maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the you know, the El Majo magician. I'm sorry I

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<v Speaker 1>spudged that up again.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, let's go clean it up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, tighten up, let's go clean it up. It's an

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<v Speaker 1>all Star break for me too. I just think, like

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<v Speaker 1>we we for we have forgotten what he can do

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<v Speaker 1>well and and I think we like we probably need

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<v Speaker 1>a reminder of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>The other I guess kind of an elephant in the

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<v Speaker 3>room is Max Clark. And because it's a prospect, I

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<v Speaker 3>know there are people out there, why not just bring

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<v Speaker 3>up Max Clark. I will say Max Clark is having

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<v Speaker 3>a pretty nice July, only ten games, but he's got

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<v Speaker 3>a nine to thirty nine OPS. He's gotten deep off

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<v Speaker 3>lefties a couple of times here recently. He's doing some

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<v Speaker 3>of the things you would really like to see. Because

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<v Speaker 3>his overall season numbers the OPS is only seven fifty five,

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<v Speaker 3>you would like to see that higher from a prospect

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<v Speaker 3>of his caliber. We've talked about like he's hit lefties

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<v Speaker 3>for average, but not a lot of extra base power.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's only four extra base hits against lefties

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<v Speaker 3>all year, but some of those three of those have

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<v Speaker 3>been recent, so that is an encouraging sign. He's a

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<v Speaker 3>talented defender. The instincts. You know, we've talked about. We

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<v Speaker 3>saw it a lot in spring training. Maybe not quite

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<v Speaker 3>what you would want them to be, So it's not

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<v Speaker 3>as easy as you snap your finger. And Max Clark

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<v Speaker 3>is a plus center fielder, let's keep that in mind.

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<v Speaker 3>But there are very real scenarios where Max Clark could

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<v Speaker 3>debut by the end of the year. I think given

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<v Speaker 3>the course of where we're at, it'd probably be wise

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<v Speaker 3>for the Tigers to try to maintain Clark's rookie eligibility.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're talking he's not coming up until the end

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<v Speaker 3>of August. But there's a world where the Tigers are

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<v Speaker 3>in this and they need a little help and so

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<v Speaker 3>they call it Max Clark. Or there's a world where

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<v Speaker 3>they are out of it and things have kind of

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<v Speaker 3>been dismantled a little bit, and you call the kid

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<v Speaker 3>up just to let them play. I think either of

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<v Speaker 3>those could be could be scenarios. I guess there's also

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<v Speaker 3>a world where you're totally out of it and you

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<v Speaker 3>to just delay his debut until next year. Also not impossible,

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<v Speaker 3>but given you can retain a four year of service

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<v Speaker 3>time and retain a year of rookie eligibility, I would

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<v Speaker 3>kind of lean towards seeing Max Clark before this year

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<v Speaker 3>is up. If he continues to hit to the tune

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<v Speaker 3>of a nine to thirty nine ops, I think we're

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<v Speaker 3>definitely gonna see this kid. But let's remember some of

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<v Speaker 3>it just depends how he performs, what the underlying numbers

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<v Speaker 3>look like. Is he doing the things the Tigers most

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<v Speaker 3>want to see him do.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've kind of gotten to the point of I anticipate.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd have to be proven otherwise. I just don't think

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna see him this year unless something, Unless unless

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<v Speaker 1>we get like some wide variants, either his performance or

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<v Speaker 1>feel like the equilibrium element here is just just kind

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<v Speaker 1>what happens at twenty twenty seven and what would be

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<v Speaker 2>I you know one of the things that we like.

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<v Speaker 1>To do preseason is you know, come up with some

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<v Speaker 1>bold predictions and just kind of see how right or wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we usually are pretty good about our bold predictions,

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<v Speaker 1>but I wanted to do some second half bold predictions

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<v Speaker 1>because look, if the Tigers are going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>playoff team, a playoff contender anything above that, things are

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<v Speaker 1>going to have to be bold, right, So why don't

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<v Speaker 1>why don't we start out with some bold predictions for

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<v Speaker 1>the second half. And I'm just gonna start off the

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<v Speaker 1>top with maybe the boldest Tigers win the AL Central.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not out of the question.

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<v Speaker 2>Code.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you like one of your like, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>most famous phrases of the of the season is are.

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<v Speaker 2>The Chicago White Sox really gonna win this division? And

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<v Speaker 2>and and like.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like I I don't have a huge argument. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking at the odds on fan duel right now. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>just list them off for everybody to win the AL Central.

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<v Speaker 1>Cleveland Guardians minus one oh five, Chicago White Sox plus

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<v Speaker 1>one eighty, Tigers plus six hundred, so their third third

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<v Speaker 1>best odds, Minnesota Twins plus eight fifty, Kansas City Royals

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<v Speaker 1>a big number.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's just put it at that, So.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like one of the reasons I think this is

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<v Speaker 1>like I almost wonder if this is the well, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't wonder it. It clearly is the clearest path to

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<v Speaker 1>getting to the postseason because you have only a few

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<v Speaker 1>teams that you gotta contend with in order to clinch

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<v Speaker 1>up postseason birth as opposed to I don't know the

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<v Speaker 1>entire American League for these wildcard spots, and like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like like so people are gonna look at the wildcard

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<v Speaker 1>standings and be like, well, the number is smaller, that

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<v Speaker 1>might be the more feasible option. I mean, not necessarily, Cody,

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<v Speaker 1>I like I think that. I think that, like, given

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<v Speaker 1>the status of Cleveland, given the youth of Chicago, and

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<v Speaker 1>given the rest of the division, I just feel like

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<v Speaker 1>this might be the thing to shoot for as opposed

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<v Speaker 1>to stands score watching you know, the entire American League.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's my bold prediction.

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<v Speaker 1>And if I were to make it bolder, I might

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<v Speaker 1>just say it's division or bust for a playoff berth,

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm not sure I want to go that far.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean, yeah, if you can win the division,

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<v Speaker 3>you can also get a wildcard spot. So that's not like,

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<v Speaker 3>really the way to look at it. Every time I

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<v Speaker 3>sit here and look at the division standings, I'm just like,

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<v Speaker 3>it's doable. It felt better when it was four and

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<v Speaker 3>a half two days ago compared to six and a half.

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<v Speaker 3>The Tigers playoff odds a reminder of how much weight

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<v Speaker 3>is on every game right now. Three days ago, their

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<v Speaker 3>playoff odds were thirty nine point five percent. They lost

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<v Speaker 3>two games, White Sox won a couple, the Guardians won

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<v Speaker 3>a couple. The playoff odds overall have dropped to uh,

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<v Speaker 3>where are we at twenty three point two? The division

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<v Speaker 3>odds were as high as twenty seven point five percent.

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<v Speaker 3>They're back down to thirteen point five. But a reminder.

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<v Speaker 3>You come out of the break, you sweep the Angels,

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<v Speaker 3>White Sox lose a couple, like you're back to You're

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<v Speaker 3>back to this feeling possible. It will take a lot,

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<v Speaker 3>It will take playing like one of the best teams

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<v Speaker 3>in baseball for the entire second half. But you have

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<v Speaker 3>been one of the best teams in baseball since June first. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>you've been playing at that clip. You just have to

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<v Speaker 3>keep doing it. I don't think I'm quite comfortable enough

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<v Speaker 3>like putting my foot down and saying, the Tigers are

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<v Speaker 3>going to do this. I've thought about it a couple times.

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<v Speaker 3>It's still it's still just a little too hard. It's

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<v Speaker 3>still just a little bit uphill. But I really wouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>be shocked because the Twins man come on the White

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<v Speaker 3>Sox again. Are they really going to win the division?

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<v Speaker 3>I guess sometimes, you know, it felt like the Guardians

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<v Speaker 3>have fallen off. They've won four in a row. They're

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<v Speaker 3>actually tied with the White Sox atop the standings, and

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<v Speaker 3>they are eventually going to get Jose Ramirez back. So

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<v Speaker 3>maybe the Guardians are still the biggest threat here. If

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<v Speaker 3>you can look at run differential Kieran, the Tigers are

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<v Speaker 3>plus twenty four. That's they're the only other team besides

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<v Speaker 3>the White Sox and the Central in the green. The

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<v Speaker 3>White Sox are at plus twenty five. If you can

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<v Speaker 3>just keep playing good ball, you could end up right

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<v Speaker 3>there with the White Sox at the end of the year.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't think it's the most ridiculous bold prediction.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, it all still kind of comes back to

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<v Speaker 3>sixteen games until the deadline. Can you play well enough

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<v Speaker 3>in those sixteen games to either prevent a fire sale

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<v Speaker 3>or maybe become legitimate buyers instead of sellers, because if

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<v Speaker 3>you part with some pieces, some difficult match gets even

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<v Speaker 3>more difficult than I and I don't know if they

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<v Speaker 3>can do it. So that's these next sixteen games, man

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<v Speaker 3>are going to be so fascinating.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, on that note, Cody, that brings me to bold

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<v Speaker 1>prediction number two. The Detroit Tigers trade Trek Schoogle. But

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<v Speaker 1>more or less, that's it. It's not a fire sale.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you keep Miyes, you keep Flaherty, you keep Torres,

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<v Speaker 1>you keep Jake Rogers. Maybe you bolster, you know, your

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<v Speaker 1>your your team and your bullpen in some fashion with

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<v Speaker 1>with a smaller deal. But it's not a fire sale.

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<v Speaker 1>You trade Trek Schoogle because it's just you just can't

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<v Speaker 1>you get I can't say no deal and then you

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<v Speaker 1>and then you play it out the rest of the

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<v Speaker 1>way and just kind of see what happens. That That

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<v Speaker 1>is my bold prediction right now. And then a side note,

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<v Speaker 1>I will say congratulations to Tigers executives because no one

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<v Speaker 1>seems to think that they're gonna trade Derek Schouble like

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<v Speaker 1>national pundits, local market guys like outside of Detroit, of

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<v Speaker 1>teams that might want Derek schoogle services, nobody seems to

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<v Speaker 1>think they're gonna do it. So if your goal was

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<v Speaker 1>to play poker and say that like, hey, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>really want to trade them, so you're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 1>impress us and you're trying to raise the price, good job.

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<v Speaker 1>Seems to have worked so far. But anyway, Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>that is it throughout the needle. That's that's my bold prediction.

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<v Speaker 3>I do think made No, I don't. I'm about to

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<v Speaker 3>get going on that first. The point you just made

0:19:34.320 --> 0:19:38.399
<v Speaker 3>that I that I like is that it's not like

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<v Speaker 3>a vacuum Scott Harris has to sit down and press

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<v Speaker 3>a button. I'm going to trade him. I'm not going

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<v Speaker 3>to trade him. One thing that will probably determine whether

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<v Speaker 3>Schooble is traded is the caliber of offers, right. I

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<v Speaker 3>think that the reason a lot of people do want

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<v Speaker 3>to maybe thread this needle, trade Schooble but nothing else,

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<v Speaker 3>is because the return could potentially just be too good

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<v Speaker 3>to pass up. It could be beneficial for your future

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<v Speaker 3>to hold on to Schooble and hope you have a

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<v Speaker 3>magical couple of months and then then it's like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>what are the offers, and we're probably not really gonna

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<v Speaker 3>know the offers. If the offers suck, that increases the

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<v Speaker 3>likelihood that he's just gonna stay put. If the offer

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<v Speaker 3>is really, really good and really compelling, like that is

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<v Speaker 3>something Scott Harris is going to have to weigh. Now

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<v Speaker 3>with the threading the needle part, Here's where I guess

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<v Speaker 3>I'm unlike a lot of people. I just I don't

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<v Speaker 3>really get it. If you were going to trade Trek's Schooble,

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<v Speaker 3>what are the chances, like, do your odds of winning

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<v Speaker 3>the World Series actually go up? Is your team actually

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<v Speaker 3>is there any offer that makes your team in the

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<v Speaker 3>second half of twenty twenty six better than it is

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<v Speaker 3>with Trek's Schoogle? I tend to think no. I tend

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<v Speaker 3>to like, at best, you're gonna get some really young

0:20:54.720 --> 0:20:56.720
<v Speaker 3>hitter and you're gonna plug him in and hope he

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<v Speaker 3>can get going right away. Or you can get river

0:20:59.760 --> 0:21:03.439
<v Speaker 3>Rye who's pretty good increase it. It doesn't increase it.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you're not playing to win the World Series,

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<v Speaker 3>and if you're playing for the future, the pieces you

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<v Speaker 3>get back for Schooble, why would you not just trade everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>You can get a pretty damn good prospect for Casey

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<v Speaker 3>mys Too. You can get something for Jack Flaherty, you

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<v Speaker 3>can get something for Glabor Torres. You might be able

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<v Speaker 3>to get something for Jake Rogers. I'd like, as much

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<v Speaker 3>as it would be kind of demoralizing to pull the

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<v Speaker 3>plug more or less on the year, if you trade Schooble,

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<v Speaker 3>that to me is a white flag it.

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<v Speaker 2>I get it.

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<v Speaker 3>It might be too hard to pass up. You might

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<v Speaker 3>have to trade them, especially if you don't win at

0:21:38.880 --> 0:21:41.080
<v Speaker 3>probably at least ten of these next sixteen games, You're

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<v Speaker 3>probably gonna have to do it. And if you trade him,

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<v Speaker 3>I think you gotta trade everyone. I just don't see

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<v Speaker 3>what is the point of like trying to make a

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<v Speaker 3>wild card. Where does that get you? To me? That

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<v Speaker 3>to me, I to me, if you're not really gonna

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<v Speaker 3>go in and try to win the World Series with Scooble,

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<v Speaker 3>I would rather really start reshaping things for twenty twenty seven. Then,

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<v Speaker 3>even if that sucks, and if the goal was to

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<v Speaker 3>thread the needle and get stuff here and reshuffle, I

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<v Speaker 3>think you should have done that in the off season.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a part of me that was not opposed

0:22:10.240 --> 0:22:12.280
<v Speaker 3>to the Tiger's trading ark school in the off season,

0:22:12.359 --> 0:22:14.520
<v Speaker 3>especially before they signed from er Valdez, and it felt

0:22:14.520 --> 0:22:17.600
<v Speaker 3>like they weren't gonna do anything. They didn't do that

0:22:17.680 --> 0:22:20.520
<v Speaker 3>because they seemingly wanted to take a shot at this thing.

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<v Speaker 3>And although the first half went poorly, you're playing good

0:22:23.520 --> 0:22:26.159
<v Speaker 3>ball now, so like, why are you straying for that

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<v Speaker 3>from that mission? If you get there in the math

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<v Speaker 3>says you just can't do it, that's fine. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know why would you hold on to Casey Miies though,

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<v Speaker 3>what like, tell tell me why?

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<v Speaker 2>Why?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, because, like I like, because the broader piece of

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<v Speaker 1>this cody is that I just still feel like postseason opportunities,

0:22:48.640 --> 0:22:51.440
<v Speaker 1>which is I think we can fairly say the Tigers

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<v Speaker 1>have in front of them, and even if they do

0:22:53.119 --> 0:22:55.440
<v Speaker 1>trade terror school and that's it, they would have postseason

0:22:55.440 --> 0:22:58.639
<v Speaker 1>opportunities unless again, if they're basically in there in the

0:22:58.720 --> 0:23:01.040
<v Speaker 1>realm of where they're at right now that they collapsed.

0:23:01.080 --> 0:23:03.560
<v Speaker 1>And this argument is, boy, can we kind of agree

0:23:03.560 --> 0:23:05.840
<v Speaker 1>on those parameters right where it's like if it's within

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<v Speaker 1>striking distance, but you just have to do you can

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<v Speaker 1>do it's doing the long term thing and doing the

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<v Speaker 1>short term thing because if we're not playing for the postseason,

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<v Speaker 1>so everyone says, like, go win the World Series.

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<v Speaker 2>I understand all that.

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<v Speaker 1>But if we're not playing for the postseason, then what

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<v Speaker 1>do we do and we have a good enough team

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<v Speaker 1>to get to the postseason, then what.

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<v Speaker 2>Are we doing here?

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<v Speaker 1>It's that to me, and you have like you have

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<v Speaker 1>an opportunity to go for it, why not go for

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<v Speaker 1>it while also saving yourself for the future.

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't think it's now.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not really going for it. If you trade Schooble,

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<v Speaker 3>You're just not really It's kind of like a bad

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<v Speaker 3>faith effort, I think.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, is it bad faith or is it bad

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<v Speaker 1>faith to just like assume in the future that you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be able to compile a team that is like

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<v Speaker 1>quote unquote going for the World Series, you know, without tear,

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<v Speaker 1>without terror Schooble, with these pieces, I just feel like

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<v Speaker 1>the more certain thing is this team can get to

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<v Speaker 1>the playoff to see what happens. And Okay, like again,

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<v Speaker 1>the bull friction is not like I want to trade

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<v Speaker 1>Terror school. The bold prediction would be this would be

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<v Speaker 1>like the thread the needle thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Because it's satisfied.

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<v Speaker 3>I have heard people in this organization say the word

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<v Speaker 3>asset management before, right, how do you best manage each

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<v Speaker 3>of your assets? And there may be an argument that

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<v Speaker 3>the best thing to do is just to trade schoople.

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<v Speaker 3>There is also an argument the best thing to do

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<v Speaker 3>is just to trade Casey Mice and probably a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of these others.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the best thing to do is to always trade

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<v Speaker 1>every single player on the last year of a contract

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<v Speaker 1>and then just you know, reset with young, cheap labor.

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<v Speaker 1>That's always the best thing to do. Doesn't always happen,

0:24:46.240 --> 0:24:50.480
<v Speaker 1>isn't isn't always the most like easiest pill to swallow.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's the most asset management thing to do.

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<v Speaker 3>But that kind of sounds like a Scott Harris move

0:24:57.200 --> 0:25:00.480
<v Speaker 3>as we talk it out, then, Yeah, what's the best

0:25:00.240 --> 0:25:03.240
<v Speaker 3>I'm trading all these guys on expiring deals get.

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<v Speaker 1>Some asset management was to trade them in the off

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<v Speaker 1>season or like or whatever, because that you would have

0:25:08.160 --> 0:25:10.119
<v Speaker 1>gotten more for him or whatever. Like, I know, the

0:25:10.200 --> 0:25:13.600
<v Speaker 1>Yankee fans aren't excited about getting school for Jacob Lombard

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<v Speaker 1>or George Lombard.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah I don't think.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so like so like maybe, like you said earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the turn just isn't there, and it's like it's

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<v Speaker 1>just better to kind of go forward and see what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say this though, and this isn't This is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of independent of my bold prediction there. I bear

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<v Speaker 1>with me with a football analogy. Lane Kiffin leaving Old

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<v Speaker 1>miss in the playoff to go coach LSU and Old

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<v Speaker 1>Misses going in the playoff like advancing in the playoff

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<v Speaker 1>like without their head coach is to me a sign

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<v Speaker 1>of a broken system when he leaves for in conference arrival,

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<v Speaker 1>like all these things, like that is a broken system.

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<v Speaker 1>That that is a thing that we just like are

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<v Speaker 1>okay with. I think it's also kind of a sign

0:25:59.320 --> 0:26:01.600
<v Speaker 1>of a broken systm them that a team that's got

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<v Speaker 1>back to back playoffs, you know, alds game five appearances

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<v Speaker 1>as the best pitcher in the world and is right

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<v Speaker 1>there in the thick of an expanded playoff race, it's

0:26:11.320 --> 0:26:16.920
<v Speaker 1>just gonna like sell everybody because because they can't win, it's.

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<v Speaker 3>It's broken because of the expanded playoff. He really shouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>be eight games under five hundred and we're sitting here,

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<v Speaker 3>can you win the World Series?

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<v Speaker 1>So that's extended playoffs. The case of point extended playoffs

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<v Speaker 1>always broken. All right, We're gonna take a quick break

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<v Speaker 1>All right, coming back here, Cody last bold prediction for

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<v Speaker 1>the second half, Kevin McGonagall recent All Star.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you know this.

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin mcgonagal, We'll finish with the highest war of any

0:27:53.520 --> 0:27:59.480
<v Speaker 1>Tigers position player, not rookie, any Tiger's position player this century. Now,

0:27:59.520 --> 0:28:04.200
<v Speaker 1>I'll give you guys the competition here. It's basically Curtis

0:28:04.200 --> 0:28:07.159
<v Speaker 1>granders in two thousand and seven seven point six, Miguel

0:28:07.200 --> 0:28:11.400
<v Speaker 1>Cabrera twenty thirteen, seven point five. Mcgonagall's war right now

0:28:11.480 --> 0:28:15.880
<v Speaker 1>on baseball reference is four point seven. So obviously there's

0:28:15.920 --> 0:28:18.159
<v Speaker 1>an on pace element here that could be at play.

0:28:18.440 --> 0:28:22.080
<v Speaker 1>But really, this is a prediction on him just continuing

0:28:22.359 --> 0:28:24.800
<v Speaker 1>because like as much as remember we used to worry

0:28:24.840 --> 0:28:28.840
<v Speaker 1>about workload, or complain about worrying about workload, and like,

0:28:29.000 --> 0:28:31.720
<v Speaker 1>and you know, whether you know when pitchers will adjust

0:28:31.800 --> 0:28:32.919
<v Speaker 1>to him, how will he do?

0:28:33.040 --> 0:28:36.400
<v Speaker 2>And like all these things, and none of that has

0:28:36.480 --> 0:28:37.840
<v Speaker 2>stopped him to this point.

0:28:37.920 --> 0:28:40.280
<v Speaker 1>So this is a this is like a prediction, a bet,

0:28:40.360 --> 0:28:44.560
<v Speaker 1>like a metaphorical bet on on him just continuing to

0:28:44.600 --> 0:28:48.480
<v Speaker 1>do Kevin McGonagall things and continue and having what might

0:28:48.520 --> 0:28:51.200
<v Speaker 1>be one of the most special seasons a Tiger's position

0:28:51.240 --> 0:28:52.640
<v Speaker 1>player has had in recent memory.

0:28:54.160 --> 0:28:57.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think it'll be really fascinating. To be clear,

0:28:57.800 --> 0:29:01.120
<v Speaker 3>here we are talking about Baseball Reference, which is different

0:29:01.280 --> 0:29:06.440
<v Speaker 3>from Fangraph's war fangrafs war. The Tigers leader this century

0:29:06.560 --> 0:29:10.960
<v Speaker 3>is twenty thirteen Miguel Cabrera at eight point six. Mcgonagal's

0:29:11.000 --> 0:29:13.880
<v Speaker 3>also valued a little bit lower on fangrafs. He's at

0:29:13.880 --> 0:29:17.320
<v Speaker 3>four point zho compared to four point seven on Baseball Reference.

0:29:17.880 --> 0:29:20.360
<v Speaker 3>Pretty sure they're just using a different set of defensive

0:29:20.400 --> 0:29:22.720
<v Speaker 3>metrics to evaluate him, and that's why he's a little

0:29:22.720 --> 0:29:27.880
<v Speaker 3>bit lower on fangraphs. This is very much attainable for him,

0:29:28.080 --> 0:29:31.160
<v Speaker 3>which is incredible. I mean, just think about it. This

0:29:31.280 --> 0:29:34.280
<v Speaker 3>kid as a rookie could be seven or eight wins

0:29:34.320 --> 0:29:38.240
<v Speaker 3>above replacement, which is wild as a rookie, which hints

0:29:38.280 --> 0:29:42.200
<v Speaker 3>that this could be a nine to ten more player

0:29:42.240 --> 0:29:44.920
<v Speaker 3>one of these days. I mean it's not always that simple, right,

0:29:45.040 --> 0:29:48.520
<v Speaker 3>but with McGonagall I mean, I don't think this kid's

0:29:48.560 --> 0:29:52.360
<v Speaker 3>going away anytime soon, all right, And in a weird way,

0:29:52.520 --> 0:29:56.479
<v Speaker 3>you could argue he's like due to really get hot.

0:29:56.960 --> 0:30:01.200
<v Speaker 3>He's never fully cooled off, but he's like trying to

0:30:01.200 --> 0:30:02.920
<v Speaker 3>look at some splits right now. I mean, he's in

0:30:02.960 --> 0:30:07.800
<v Speaker 3>two eighty two in July, which is obviously quite good.

0:30:08.280 --> 0:30:10.600
<v Speaker 3>But I could see a world where he comes out

0:30:10.600 --> 0:30:12.680
<v Speaker 3>of the gate and maybe the power ticks up a

0:30:12.680 --> 0:30:15.400
<v Speaker 3>little bit and maybe he hits three point fifty for

0:30:15.480 --> 0:30:18.240
<v Speaker 3>a month. I mean, sometimes rookies is the most ball

0:30:18.320 --> 0:30:20.240
<v Speaker 3>they've ever played. He's going to the All Star Game

0:30:20.320 --> 0:30:23.600
<v Speaker 3>right now, which is awesome and a great story. He's

0:30:23.640 --> 0:30:25.600
<v Speaker 3>got to be kind of tired. He wouldn't be the

0:30:25.600 --> 0:30:28.120
<v Speaker 3>first rookie where the wheels just fall off a little

0:30:28.120 --> 0:30:31.080
<v Speaker 3>bit in the second half, but based on everything we've

0:30:31.080 --> 0:30:33.080
<v Speaker 3>seen so far, it wouldn't surprise me if the opposite

0:30:33.160 --> 0:30:36.800
<v Speaker 3>happens and he just continues getting better. That's how special

0:30:36.840 --> 0:30:42.440
<v Speaker 3>his season has been so far. I think this is attainable,

0:30:42.480 --> 0:30:44.640
<v Speaker 3>and we're not enough people are like, this guy is

0:30:44.880 --> 0:30:47.920
<v Speaker 3>maybe going to be a top five MVP finisher as.

0:30:47.800 --> 0:30:51.400
<v Speaker 2>A rookie, which is that one? He could win one?

0:30:51.720 --> 0:30:55.240
<v Speaker 3>Kiaran Kieran if the Tigers win the Al Central, Kevin

0:30:55.320 --> 0:30:59.560
<v Speaker 3>McGonagall RD, Dylan Dingler could win MVP like that, Like

0:30:59.680 --> 0:31:03.560
<v Speaker 3>right now, Bobby Witt is the war leader and he

0:31:03.600 --> 0:31:06.280
<v Speaker 3>plays on a terrible team. So I don't really know

0:31:06.320 --> 0:31:09.160
<v Speaker 3>who the ale MVP is going to be. There's obviously

0:31:09.240 --> 0:31:12.400
<v Speaker 3>a lot to be determined. It's no guarantee McGonagall or

0:31:12.440 --> 0:31:16.400
<v Speaker 3>Dingler continue to play at the amazing clip they did

0:31:16.440 --> 0:31:19.360
<v Speaker 3>in the first half, but it would not surprise me.

0:31:19.480 --> 0:31:21.240
<v Speaker 3>And when you really step back and kind of look

0:31:21.280 --> 0:31:25.440
<v Speaker 3>at the numbers he is putting up, it's it's amazing.

0:31:27.120 --> 0:31:28.000
<v Speaker 2>Since he brought it up.

0:31:28.840 --> 0:31:31.280
<v Speaker 1>Our friends of FanDuel have MVP odd so I'll just

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<v Speaker 1>read him off real quick. He's not that far down

0:31:33.000 --> 0:31:37.600
<v Speaker 1>the list. Or On Alvarez minus one sixty five, Junior

0:31:37.640 --> 0:31:41.320
<v Speaker 1>Camorello minus four fifty, we Junior plus or sorry plus

0:31:41.320 --> 0:31:44.360
<v Speaker 1>four fifty excuse me, wet Junior plus five hundred, Ben

0:31:44.480 --> 0:31:48.320
<v Speaker 1>Rice plus fourteen hundred, Nick Kurtz plus two thousand, Hulo

0:31:48.400 --> 0:31:52.080
<v Speaker 1>Rodriguez plus forty five hundred, Jay Langeleers plus fifty five hundred,

0:31:52.120 --> 0:31:55.840
<v Speaker 1>Byron Buxton plus six thousand, Dylan Danglar plus six thousand,

0:31:56.240 --> 0:32:00.000
<v Speaker 1>Camp Schlitzler plus seven thousand, and Kevin McGonagall plus eight.

0:32:00.440 --> 0:32:02.800
<v Speaker 3>So he's like, I'm surprised that low and the why

0:32:02.880 --> 0:32:07.120
<v Speaker 3>is he that low his second position players are we.

0:32:07.120 --> 0:32:09.640
<v Speaker 2>Not talking about? Like is he not getting enough pub?

0:32:10.000 --> 0:32:10.080
<v Speaker 1>Like?

0:32:10.120 --> 0:32:11.760
<v Speaker 2>Really like is he not getting enough pub?

0:32:12.320 --> 0:32:16.200
<v Speaker 3>I don't think everyone realizes how high his his war is.

0:32:17.040 --> 0:32:20.360
<v Speaker 3>He's getting plenty of PUB, but I don't think everyone

0:32:20.400 --> 0:32:23.400
<v Speaker 3>realizes that he's been one of the top five players

0:32:23.400 --> 0:32:25.480
<v Speaker 3>in the sport in terms of position players.

0:32:27.720 --> 0:32:30.120
<v Speaker 1>Not only that, but the responsibility that he has on

0:32:30.160 --> 0:32:34.520
<v Speaker 1>a daily basis for this team playing shortstop, playing third base.

0:32:34.720 --> 0:32:37.480
<v Speaker 1>I would probably argue third base on his natural position

0:32:37.560 --> 0:32:40.400
<v Speaker 1>for him, uh, but you know, always bagging at the

0:32:40.440 --> 0:32:44.040
<v Speaker 1>top of the order facing lefties, not having a single

0:32:44.120 --> 0:32:47.600
<v Speaker 1>ending of triple A like there. That's probably what this

0:32:47.800 --> 0:32:50.360
<v Speaker 1>first half is really robbed, is like people just like

0:32:50.400 --> 0:32:52.680
<v Speaker 1>oohing and aye and a lot more at Kevin McGonagall,

0:32:52.720 --> 0:32:55.840
<v Speaker 1>which he deserves. I'm really glad he got his All

0:32:55.840 --> 0:32:59.040
<v Speaker 1>Star Game and magical moment Philadelphia and all that stuff.

0:32:59.640 --> 0:33:02.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah he uh. I hope the All Star Game doesn't

0:33:02.920 --> 0:33:04.800
<v Speaker 3>take too much out of him for all the fun

0:33:04.880 --> 0:33:07.080
<v Speaker 3>it's going to be. I mean, even the media attention

0:33:07.200 --> 0:33:09.000
<v Speaker 3>leading up to the All Star Game with the Phillies

0:33:09.000 --> 0:33:11.720
<v Speaker 3>in town was pretty crazy. He's getting to go home,

0:33:11.840 --> 0:33:14.480
<v Speaker 3>sleep in his childhood bed. I hope that's that's good

0:33:14.520 --> 0:33:16.920
<v Speaker 3>for him. But there are a lot of demands on him,

0:33:16.960 --> 0:33:18.800
<v Speaker 3>a lot of people wanted to see him, even you

0:33:18.800 --> 0:33:22.040
<v Speaker 3>know family, well meaning as it is when there's you know,

0:33:22.200 --> 0:33:25.040
<v Speaker 3>thirty five family members around all the time, that maybe

0:33:25.040 --> 0:33:28.000
<v Speaker 3>that's I think. I think Kevin should go to the

0:33:28.000 --> 0:33:31.160
<v Speaker 3>mountains for like two days, you know, just decompress a

0:33:31.200 --> 0:33:33.800
<v Speaker 3>little bit, then come back, then come back and play

0:33:33.840 --> 0:33:37.160
<v Speaker 3>the Angels. And yeah, I just hope he's able to

0:33:37.240 --> 0:33:40.000
<v Speaker 3>keep going and doesn't really start feeling them, both the

0:33:40.040 --> 0:33:44.520
<v Speaker 3>mental and physical fatigue that surely has got to be

0:33:44.560 --> 0:33:45.320
<v Speaker 3>setting in a little bit.

0:33:46.360 --> 0:33:48.640
<v Speaker 1>Well, look, man, there's no evidence to say that he

0:33:48.680 --> 0:33:51.560
<v Speaker 1>can't handle whatever is kind of thrown his way.

0:33:51.640 --> 0:33:55.120
<v Speaker 3>He's past everything, that's the thing, man, he just keeps

0:33:55.680 --> 0:33:56.600
<v Speaker 3>check box.

0:33:56.720 --> 0:33:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's part of his story. So and of course

0:34:00.000 --> 0:34:01.520
<v Speaker 1>we will follow it every step of the way. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you guys have any bold predictions for the second half

0:34:04.160 --> 0:34:06.840
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