WEBVTT - Alex Neustaedter

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<v Speaker 1>And we're like, oh, are you guys closed, and he's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't be in the zoo or I know, you

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<v Speaker 1>guys missed the animals, but like I understand, Like he

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I understand why you're here, but yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>really can't be doing that. Hey, my name is Alex

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<v Speaker 1>Oustetter and I'm an actor and I love to sneak

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<v Speaker 1>into zoos.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi everybody, and welcome to Off the Beat. If you're

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<v Speaker 2>wondering who this is speaking to you right now, well

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<v Speaker 2>it's me your host, Brian Bumgartner. Today, as you just heard,

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<v Speaker 2>I have a talented young actor on the podcast, Alex Newstetter. Well, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>he's older now, but he started very very young, at

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<v Speaker 2>just five years of age. Now, I'm told that back

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<v Speaker 2>in the day, Alex was a very cute kid, so

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<v Speaker 2>cute in fact, that his mom's friend said, well, he's

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<v Speaker 2>a cute kid and photogenic, and that little comment ended

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<v Speaker 2>up getting him into modeling and commercial work as a kid,

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<v Speaker 2>which then became more and more dramatic by the year. Now, well,

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<v Speaker 2>he's a full blown star and also a delightful person.

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<v Speaker 2>Next time you tell a kid that they're cute, you

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<v Speaker 2>should probably check in a few years later and see

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<v Speaker 2>what they did with that information. They might be just

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<v Speaker 2>like Alex. Alex Well, he's an incredible talent. I've been

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<v Speaker 2>a fan of his for quite a while. He played

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<v Speaker 2>Homer in Meg Ryan's directorial debut film Ithaca. He played

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<v Speaker 2>Bram in another great great series, Colony on USA, and

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<v Speaker 2>well personal favorite, he played Billy in American Rust Now

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<v Speaker 2>season two. Just out a American Rust Broken Justice on

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<v Speaker 2>Amazon freebe go and check that out. But let's just

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<v Speaker 2>see what Alex has to say for himself, shall we.

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<v Speaker 2>Here He is my new best friend, Alex Newstetter. Bubble

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<v Speaker 2>and Squeak.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Bubble and Squeak. I know Bubble and Squeak. I cook

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<v Speaker 2>get every month lift over from the ninety four.

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<v Speaker 1>What's up, Alex? How you doing, Brian Cool?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing well. How are you?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing great. I'm doing great.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm excited to talk to you today. I have to

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<v Speaker 2>say this, I was a big American Rust guy season one.

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<v Speaker 2>I was a big American Rust guy. Excited uh for

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<v Speaker 2>season two and and to talk about all of that.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's very nice to meet you.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh likewise, thank you. I've been a huge fan of

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<v Speaker 1>the office and and you doing Kevin and like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>such a fan, so I was. I'm really stoked to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to meet you in chat.

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<v Speaker 2>So well, that's nice. You'll find out soon enough, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not very nice, So it'll it's gonna it's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be awkward. It's gonna be it's I'm gonna make you uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 2>But where are you now? Are you? Are you in California?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm in Los Angeles right now?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, thanks for stopping by you. Uh, you've

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<v Speaker 2>been in Los Angeles a long time. I understand. Now

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<v Speaker 2>I've got a crack research team that has looked into

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<v Speaker 2>every aspect of your being. You were born in Kansas,

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<v Speaker 2>is that right?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Kansas City, Kansas City, Kansas, Shawnee mission to be precise,

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<v Speaker 2>I understand you started in the business at a really

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<v Speaker 2>young age, but you were also interested in sports as

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<v Speaker 2>a kid. Is that right?

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely? Yeah. I was a bit of a jock. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I think one thing that my parents did well was

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<v Speaker 1>like push me into everything. So I kind of tried

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of like anything I could. Like I danced

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<v Speaker 1>for a while, I played all the sports like baseball, basketball, football, soccer, tennis,

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<v Speaker 1>you name it. And then I kind of also just

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<v Speaker 1>randomly started doing like some theater and some little acting

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<v Speaker 1>stuff as well, and that was kind of my first

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<v Speaker 1>segue into it when I was like six.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so what I read is this, at age five,

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<v Speaker 2>someone said to your mom that you were cute and

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<v Speaker 2>photogenic and she signed you up for an agency in

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<v Speaker 2>Kansas City. Is that right?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's really good research.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you like it as a kid? Was it just

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<v Speaker 2>an activity or did you enjoy doing it?

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<v Speaker 1>I think, honestly, I don't think I really knew what

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<v Speaker 1>I was doing. I think it was more of just

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<v Speaker 1>like a hey, try this out, see what you think.

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<v Speaker 1>And it wasn't even fully an agency. It was like

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<v Speaker 1>a middleman agency to try and connect you with another agency.

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<v Speaker 1>So I remember trying out for this like runway thing

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<v Speaker 1>when I was five or six, and it actually brought

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<v Speaker 1>me to LA and I did Runway for like as

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<v Speaker 1>a six year old, which is crazy. I remember there

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<v Speaker 1>was one where I know it's wild and then in

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<v Speaker 1>the audience it's called IMTA and in the audience there's

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of agents and managers like scouting, and I

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<v Speaker 1>tried it for like two or three minutes or two

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<v Speaker 1>or three months rather, and I actually got close to

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<v Speaker 1>a couple. Like Zathura was a movie that I auditioned

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<v Speaker 1>for and I think I met Jon Favreau for it

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<v Speaker 1>and it was close and I was like, but then

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, what am I doing here? I want

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<v Speaker 1>to go see my friends and play sports. And I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't like I need to do this at that age, so.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, but now runway. So I have an image in

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<v Speaker 2>my head of what that means. Is it is that?

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<v Speaker 2>What it is like, you're like you're wearing clothes or

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<v Speaker 2>you're fashion you're walking back back and forth.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the term. It's the It's like you walk it

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<v Speaker 1>down and you go to the right and you pose,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you go to the left and you pose

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<v Speaker 1>and and I was like what is this? And I

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<v Speaker 1>remember the day before I had a big palleck. I

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<v Speaker 1>still have a big caalock and it was driving me

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<v Speaker 1>crazy and I just cut it off with scissors. So

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<v Speaker 1>I had a crazy like I looked crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>But I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I did it, and I was like, Okay, this is cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't really have the self awareness to be like

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<v Speaker 1>super freaked out about it. I don't think at that age.

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<v Speaker 2>So what about your mom and dad? Like were they

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<v Speaker 2>were they into it?

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<v Speaker 3>Was?

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<v Speaker 1>This?

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<v Speaker 2>Was this fun for them? I mean, obviously this is

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<v Speaker 2>meaning someone's going with you. They're not sticking. You want

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<v Speaker 2>to plane at age five or six and to go

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<v Speaker 2>to La Like, are they are they? Are they enjoying

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<v Speaker 2>this as well?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I think my mom was into it just because

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<v Speaker 1>she knew that I had an interest.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like this.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't like saying I don't want to do this,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, And so she was super supportive. And we

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<v Speaker 1>brought our dog with us, who stayed at a like

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<v Speaker 1>a holiday inn for like two or three months, and

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<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh, and like deep Burbank, Yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 1>an adventure for sure, But yeah, they were. She was

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<v Speaker 1>super supportive. My dad stayed home and yeah, once I said,

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<v Speaker 1>it was like time we went straight back to Kansas City.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. Do you mentioned you had a passion for sports

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<v Speaker 2>as well? You played baseball and we're pretty good at baseball.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you ever consider going into the sports room. Talk

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<v Speaker 2>to me about the decision, and I know your whole

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<v Speaker 2>family ends up moving to Los Angeles. Talk to me

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<v Speaker 2>about the decision to actually turn this from like a

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<v Speaker 2>hobby into something that you really wanted to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think if I didn't come to LA Baseball

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<v Speaker 1>or probably baseball most likely would have been what I

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<v Speaker 1>would have really tried to go after, because I've played

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<v Speaker 1>that super competitively all the way through, and my dad

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<v Speaker 1>was a coach for a lot of my childhood, so

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<v Speaker 1>it was just like something we always did. I was

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about this the other day, like I had a

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<v Speaker 1>question my dad asked me when I was like twelve,

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<v Speaker 1>because I essentially I got like a pursued from a

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<v Speaker 1>manager in Kansas City. I was like passing her in

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<v Speaker 1>the hallway and she's like, where are you going? And

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<v Speaker 1>she invited me to go to her seminar and I

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<v Speaker 1>was leaving another seminar and I was like I just

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<v Speaker 1>want I'm starving, I want to go home. This is

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and then she like pursuing me. I went

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<v Speaker 1>to the seminar. I did it, and it became a

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<v Speaker 1>thing where became really serious all of a sudden, where

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<v Speaker 1>she was like, hey, I would love to like represent you,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like twelve thirteen, I didn't Still I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think really knew what I was like signing up

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<v Speaker 1>for what I was doing. And I feel like my

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<v Speaker 1>parents and I are kind of we kind of send it.

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<v Speaker 1>We're a little crazy sometimes where like if we have

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<v Speaker 1>an opportunity, let's just see how this goes. We can

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<v Speaker 1>always come back and why not try it if it's

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<v Speaker 1>something that you actually want to do. And at that

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<v Speaker 1>time I had gotten in the feed or more. I

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<v Speaker 1>had done a couple like super indie horror films in

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<v Speaker 1>Kansas City, and I was like, this is fun. I

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyed it, but I think at that time I still

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<v Speaker 1>didn't really know. But I remember we were I was

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<v Speaker 1>playing tennis with my dad and he just asked me

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<v Speaker 1>in the car. He's like, hey, like, do you actually

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<v Speaker 1>want to go do this? This is the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the moment where you make that decision. And I was

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about it, and it's like jump taking the leap

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<v Speaker 1>of faith. You kind of you have no idea what

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<v Speaker 1>that other side looks like. And I was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>just like, yeah, let's let's try it.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's go.

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<v Speaker 1>And then at first it was like a slow move out,

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<v Speaker 1>and then after about six months we fully committed, brought

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<v Speaker 1>all the dogs and the family, and then it took

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<v Speaker 1>me like three or four years to really get a project.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was a lot of no's, like hundreds of no's,

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<v Speaker 1>and getting so close to all these things, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, what is this? What is going on? And

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even really know what I was doing until

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<v Speaker 1>I actually worked on a project and like did a

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<v Speaker 1>proper project which was called Ithaca that I did this project,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I was like, this is what I want

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<v Speaker 1>to do. I fully cooked because it's such a different process,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like auditioning versus actually working.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, I mean it just occurred to me, and you're

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<v Speaker 2>obviously way younger, but it's hard for me to remember,

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<v Speaker 2>know the consciousness there in Kansas City. You know, I've

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<v Speaker 2>got a lot of friends, a lot of pretty good friends.

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<v Speaker 2>And at one point during the podcast here I started

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<v Speaker 2>to make a joke like what are people putting in

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<v Speaker 2>the water in Kansas City? Because you've got like especially

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<v Speaker 2>and you didn't even necessarily go this route, in fact,

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<v Speaker 2>you quite specifically didn't. But in terms of comedy, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you've got Paul Rudd, you have Eric stone Street, Rob Wriggle,

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<v Speaker 2>Dave Keckner, Jason Jason Sadekas. Right, So when you're growing

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<v Speaker 2>up and you're even so I mean this sort of

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<v Speaker 2>is like going backwards a little before you actually moved

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<v Speaker 2>to LA, Like, are you aware of these guys, some

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<v Speaker 2>of them and gals that that are from Kansas City.

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<v Speaker 2>Are they coming back or agents or whatever people you're

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<v Speaker 2>meeting or do they have some awareness of them being

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<v Speaker 2>on edel or whatever else? Are you aware of that

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<v Speaker 2>when you're a kid.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I really got more aware of it kind

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<v Speaker 1>of right when I was moving out, and okay, when

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<v Speaker 1>I moved out because my parents were like loved modern

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<v Speaker 1>family and all that. And I also like worked with

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<v Speaker 1>one of the guys who was best friends with Eric

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<v Speaker 1>stone Street. He like took his head shots and stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and so we were connected in that way. So I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know about them, but I I was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>removed from from it a little bit. I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>a ton about all the actors. But yeah, it's pretty

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<v Speaker 1>crazy how funny they all are and kind of how

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<v Speaker 1>many came from.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's something in the water there and it's like

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, and by the way, I have all

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<v Speaker 2>the respect of the world, lots of friends in Kansas City,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's not something that jumps into your mind. You

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<v Speaker 2>don't think like, oh, Kansas City, hot bed for Hollywood talent,

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<v Speaker 2>But as it turns out, it's something something's happening there,

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<v Speaker 2>that's for sure. You talked about your first experience on Ithaca,

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<v Speaker 2>which I want to talk about in a minute, but

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<v Speaker 2>you had some, as you mentioned early experiences as a kid,

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of projects, Albino Farm, Last Breath. So when

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<v Speaker 2>you're on set, does it feel to you then like

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<v Speaker 2>you're just playing? And I say that, like you know

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<v Speaker 2>again more sort of like oh, this is an activity

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing, This is cool? Or do you start to

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<v Speaker 2>have an experience working with older actors or whatever that

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<v Speaker 2>you start to feel sort of the depth of what

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<v Speaker 2>you're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>I think for those two films specifically, I was ten,

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<v Speaker 1>and I remember the Albino Farm one felt more like

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<v Speaker 1>play okay because it was it was such a small

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<v Speaker 1>role at the beginning. But I remember auditioning for Last

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<v Speaker 1>Breath and kind of just playfully auditioning for it, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I remember the director like actually saying, hey, like

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<v Speaker 1>what you just gave me is like a three in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of intensity, Like I want you to actually like

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<v Speaker 1>put yourself into this and really no, like encapsulate what

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<v Speaker 1>is actually going on in this situation and give me

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<v Speaker 1>like a tender give me, give me the full intensity

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<v Speaker 1>that you can. And that was I feel like maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the first time that I was like, oh, this is

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<v Speaker 1>this is play, but it can be a lot more serious.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it can get a lot more intense than

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just joking around. But yeah, I would say

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<v Speaker 1>the part talking more about like working with actors and

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<v Speaker 1>the depth was ithaical for me because that was when

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<v Speaker 1>I got to see Sam Shepard and I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>much about him, but then I watched his work before

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<v Speaker 1>and his plays, and I was just like, this guy

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<v Speaker 1>a legend.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mentioned Ithaca. You play Meg Ryan's son in Ithaca.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously this you brought it up a couple of times.

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<v Speaker 2>This is like your most important sort of first role.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me about getting that role and then the reception

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<v Speaker 2>that the film and your work got after.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think I was at the point kind of

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<v Speaker 1>in my career. I had like just turned sixteen, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was I had like three years of nose. I

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<v Speaker 1>felt very pretty lost with like what I was doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I moved like my whole family out to Kansas,

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<v Speaker 1>city essentially, like it felt like there was a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of pressure and I really didn't have much to show

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<v Speaker 1>for it, and so I kind of I was it

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<v Speaker 1>was like I had gotten two little things before that

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of made it seem like, Okay, I can

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<v Speaker 1>do this, like I can book projects, but right it

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<v Speaker 1>really wasn't until this project that I kind of I

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<v Speaker 1>remember telling my mom before because I had to go

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<v Speaker 1>to New York to read with Meg, that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if I don't get this, like I might just take

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<v Speaker 1>a break for a bit, because there had been so

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<v Speaker 1>many whereas between me and another guy, and and like

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<v Speaker 1>you can only take that so much, I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>at that age, especially when all the questions are being asked,

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<v Speaker 1>like what do you want to do? And if what

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<v Speaker 1>you're trying so hard to do is kind of failing

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<v Speaker 1>in front of you, it was tough. So I remember,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember I said that to her, and then she

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<v Speaker 1>gave me this like dog tag that was her dad's

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<v Speaker 1>dog tag from World War two.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow.

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<v Speaker 1>And so for me, that like connected it so much

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<v Speaker 1>to what this movie was about, which was it was

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<v Speaker 1>on the home front of World War two, and it

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<v Speaker 1>became a lot more personal to me. And I had

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<v Speaker 1>always kind of felt this connection to him, even though

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<v Speaker 1>I never got to meet him, and so I wore

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<v Speaker 1>that into the audition. I did the audition, and like

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<v Speaker 1>thirty minutes later, I'm eating lunch in the hotel and

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<v Speaker 1>I get a call saying that I booked it like

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<v Speaker 1>that quickly, and then that Meg wanted to have pie

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<v Speaker 1>with me that afternoon, and so I go like from saying,

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<v Speaker 1>if I don't get this, I'm done. And then like

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<v Speaker 1>a couple hours later, I was having pie with her

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<v Speaker 1>and one of the other producers.

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<v Speaker 2>You're eating pot. This is what she She invites you

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<v Speaker 2>to pie. Well, I guess she can't invite you to

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<v Speaker 2>a drink. Coffee is even a little awkward if you're sixteen.

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<v Speaker 2>So she invites you to pie, and then what do

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<v Speaker 2>you talk about? What kind of pie did you get?

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<v Speaker 2>First off? What kind of pie was it?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an apple pie guy. I love out there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm not a warm fruit I don't I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>I don't do warm fruit. But anyway, like pie, p

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<v Speaker 2>can boom nailed. It came right out, okay, apple pie?

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<v Speaker 2>And so what are you do you start talking about

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<v Speaker 2>the work or is she just trying to get to

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<v Speaker 2>know you a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>It starts a bit as just trying to get to

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<v Speaker 1>know and kind of familiarize ourselves, but then it's then

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<v Speaker 1>it's talking about the work pretty quickly, and she just

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<v Speaker 1>made me feel really comfortable. She gave me a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of movies she wanted me to watch, specifically, like East

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<v Speaker 1>of Eden, like a lot of James Dean, early Brando,

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<v Speaker 1>like a lot of the classics that I at the

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<v Speaker 1>time hadn't familiarized myself with, and some things that she

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<v Speaker 1>was really pulling from inspiration wise and music. And then

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<v Speaker 1>it was kind of maybe a week or two before

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<v Speaker 1>we actually started filming, I was we just read the

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<v Speaker 1>script together in a coffee shop and went over it

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<v Speaker 1>and kind of just really like dove more into it.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, that.

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<v Speaker 1>Was a crazy experience, and like after doing that, I

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<v Speaker 1>got fully hooked on being on set every day and

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<v Speaker 1>the connections you make, and it was just something so

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<v Speaker 1>special that I really got it and it felt so

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<v Speaker 1>personal and so meaningful because it really made me feel

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<v Speaker 1>more connected to that era. And I don't know, period

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<v Speaker 1>pieces are so cool, especially where we filmed them. It

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<v Speaker 1>was in Petersburg, Virginia where it always feels it feels

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<v Speaker 1>like going back in time anyway, and then you have

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<v Speaker 1>the right forties, you know, clothing on, and yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>was really it is really amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm always fascinated to talk to people like you who

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<v Speaker 2>started as a child actor. And what I mean by

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<v Speaker 2>that is that you know, I was acting, but for

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<v Speaker 2>me it was theater. You know. I wasn't like the

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<v Speaker 2>film and television business, like, I never did that. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think what's particularly interesting to me about you is

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<v Speaker 2>you never did the like kids acting thing.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know if that if that phrase makes sense,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know Disney or Nickelodeon or Mickey Mouse fun House, No,

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't make a Mouse club. You seem to have gravitated. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of times it's like, well that's you asked

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<v Speaker 2>this question, and people are like, oh, that's that was

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<v Speaker 2>the job I got. Like I, But I'm wondering if

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<v Speaker 2>for you did you gravitate towards these more adult projects.

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<v Speaker 2>Was that interesting for you? Or if Disney had called,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe you would have hung out with Britney Spears or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think I remember always trying to do the

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<v Speaker 1>like I think that's probably why I didn't book anything

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<v Speaker 1>for three years, because I was under sixteen and there's

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<v Speaker 1>like legal things that they want you for the hours

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<v Speaker 1>and all that, and I would try. I would on

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<v Speaker 1>so many Disney, shake it Up, you name it, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just I couldn't do it, Like it was just

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<v Speaker 1>so over I remember like having a reading with my

0:21:03.560 --> 0:21:05.440
<v Speaker 1>manager and she was like, Hey, can we just read

0:21:05.440 --> 0:21:07.680
<v Speaker 1>this before you go in? And I was like reading

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<v Speaker 1>it like seriously. I was like into it, and she's like,

0:21:10.800 --> 0:21:12.600
<v Speaker 1>she's like, what do you And then I think she

0:21:12.720 --> 0:21:16.720
<v Speaker 1>realized in that moment that like that's not really my strength,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I couldn't just I wasn't great at that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I've always gravitated towards like deeper, darker roles,

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<v Speaker 1>even as a kid, which is weird.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's just.

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<v Speaker 1>I really like exploring like the depths of like what

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<v Speaker 1>I can feel, and I feel like those other shows

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<v Speaker 1>are very surface level in a lot of ways, not

0:21:38.280 --> 0:21:41.600
<v Speaker 1>that they're not good, but just they're just they're different.

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<v Speaker 1>And I really was after traumatic stuff, and there's not

0:21:46.200 --> 0:21:49.520
<v Speaker 1>a lot in that age range that's available to really

0:21:49.760 --> 0:21:53.280
<v Speaker 1>dive deep and like if it makes me feel strong

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<v Speaker 1>and feel a certain way, like, that's what I'm going after.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to go like exploring emotionally essentially.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, one, that's awesome too, It's totally understandable. I mean, look,

0:22:05.440 --> 0:22:09.000
<v Speaker 2>if at age sixteen, you're eating pie with Meg Ryan

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<v Speaker 2>to do play her son in her movie, and you're

0:22:13.320 --> 0:22:16.080
<v Speaker 2>talking about these things and you're wearing the dog, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean that feels like an amazing experience that you had

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<v Speaker 2>and very meaningful. And yeah, I mean that it makes

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<v Speaker 2>sense that it would be tough for you to then

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<v Speaker 2>like sing the Mickey Mouse song or whatever. And again,

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<v Speaker 2>not that there's anything wrong with the Mickey Mouse song it,

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<v Speaker 2>but you're but you had had shifted in a different direction.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of which colony, did you get colony because of

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<v Speaker 2>this film or was this just coincidental timing wise?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think I had just filmed that Ithaca and

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<v Speaker 1>it was my second audition back essentially I booked, so

0:22:57.640 --> 0:23:00.040
<v Speaker 1>it hadn't come out yet, but it was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, it feels like the industry is very momentum based,

0:23:04.280 --> 0:23:07.639
<v Speaker 1>you know. Yeah, they love when you're when you just

0:23:07.840 --> 0:23:10.000
<v Speaker 1>got off a project, you're going into a new one,

0:23:10.080 --> 0:23:12.120
<v Speaker 1>or maybe we can fit you before another one. It's

0:23:12.200 --> 0:23:15.119
<v Speaker 1>kind of one of those. So I feel like I

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<v Speaker 1>auditioned in front of the creators and I told them

0:23:19.320 --> 0:23:21.600
<v Speaker 1>about this movie, and I think they they were just

0:23:21.760 --> 0:23:24.960
<v Speaker 1>really excited about it. And but yeah, that happened right

0:23:25.000 --> 0:23:28.800
<v Speaker 1>after and then that was essentially like a three year

0:23:29.320 --> 0:23:30.760
<v Speaker 1>process for me with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well it's I think it is momentum. I mean,

0:23:35.160 --> 0:23:39.480
<v Speaker 2>what you say is true, but it's also that you know,

0:23:39.560 --> 0:23:44.080
<v Speaker 2>it's very hard unless you have incredible discipline. Well, it's

0:23:44.119 --> 0:23:46.800
<v Speaker 2>like in sports, you know, have you been playing, have

0:23:46.880 --> 0:23:48.800
<v Speaker 2>you been in the gym, have you been have you

0:23:48.880 --> 0:23:53.040
<v Speaker 2>been working out? Are you prepared? Is your body ready?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>And it's hard to simulate even if you even if

0:23:56.920 --> 0:24:01.119
<v Speaker 2>you do work hard, it's hard to simulate the like

0:24:01.520 --> 0:24:07.439
<v Speaker 2>on set experience. It's not brain surgery, but you know

0:24:07.680 --> 0:24:13.440
<v Speaker 2>that pressure, that intensity of being on set, of doing

0:24:13.480 --> 0:24:17.159
<v Speaker 2>your work and having you know, one hundred and however

0:24:17.240 --> 0:24:21.240
<v Speaker 2>many people watching you and hoping you don't screw it

0:24:21.320 --> 0:24:23.000
<v Speaker 2>up so we can make our day and all of

0:24:23.040 --> 0:24:25.720
<v Speaker 2>those things. And so it makes sense to me, right

0:24:25.880 --> 0:24:28.720
<v Speaker 2>like that, you go from that, you're tuned up and

0:24:28.760 --> 0:24:32.000
<v Speaker 2>you're ready, and a lot of times that can breed

0:24:32.160 --> 0:24:33.240
<v Speaker 2>other work as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, totally, Yeah, I think that's a really good point.

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<v Speaker 1>I also think the industry is so like hurry up

0:24:39.920 --> 0:24:42.639
<v Speaker 1>and wait and it's and then when they're ready, it's like,

0:24:43.200 --> 0:24:45.480
<v Speaker 1>all right, now you have to go. And I feel

0:24:45.480 --> 0:24:48.520
<v Speaker 1>like in a lot of ways that's I always connected

0:24:48.520 --> 0:24:52.360
<v Speaker 1>it always with like sports and baseball, and like you said,

0:24:52.480 --> 0:24:55.600
<v Speaker 1>just being prepared for the moment and then when it's there,

0:24:55.680 --> 0:24:58.920
<v Speaker 1>you got to just let it go and go after it.

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<v Speaker 2>You played bram in Colony, fascinating show, a ton of

0:25:05.280 --> 0:25:10.040
<v Speaker 2>great press and acknowledgment on that. One of the things

0:25:10.080 --> 0:25:13.200
<v Speaker 2>that I found you. No, I don't I don't want

0:25:13.200 --> 0:25:15.520
<v Speaker 2>to get in trouble with anybody here, but I do

0:25:15.600 --> 0:25:19.960
<v Speaker 2>have to say I like science fiction, but I do

0:25:20.040 --> 0:25:24.560
<v Speaker 2>at times have a problem well, and I'll say science

0:25:24.560 --> 0:25:28.280
<v Speaker 2>fiction and horror at times, when you see the monster,

0:25:29.480 --> 0:25:33.560
<v Speaker 2>it's not quite as scary as what it could be

0:25:33.680 --> 0:25:37.240
<v Speaker 2>in your mind. This is just me, and I thought

0:25:37.320 --> 0:25:43.040
<v Speaker 2>that Colony did a fantastic job of making it feel

0:25:43.920 --> 0:25:51.119
<v Speaker 2>very very scary without too much seeing yeah, seeing the

0:25:51.160 --> 0:25:54.040
<v Speaker 2>monster that was that was in control. Talk to me

0:25:54.200 --> 0:25:58.200
<v Speaker 2>about that show. You you enjoyed your experience on that show.

0:25:59.200 --> 0:26:04.080
<v Speaker 1>I did. I. I think that show really taught me

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. I feel like the first season I was

0:26:06.680 --> 0:26:09.640
<v Speaker 1>pretty lost in terms of like what I was doing

0:26:10.640 --> 0:26:14.000
<v Speaker 1>and how to actually be a professional actor, Like I

0:26:14.119 --> 0:26:17.359
<v Speaker 1>learned really quickly, like TV is way different than film

0:26:18.000 --> 0:26:22.840
<v Speaker 1>and you only have two takes. Sometimes I was showing

0:26:22.960 --> 0:26:25.480
<v Speaker 1>up thinking it was, you know, going to be a

0:26:25.520 --> 0:26:28.560
<v Speaker 1>little bit more playful, experimental like try, and it was,

0:26:28.760 --> 0:26:32.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, a machine. And I think the first season

0:26:33.400 --> 0:26:36.359
<v Speaker 1>really showed me that, Like when we got the second season,

0:26:36.520 --> 0:26:40.000
<v Speaker 1>I needed to have a totally different approach to what

0:26:40.080 --> 0:26:41.920
<v Speaker 1>I was doing and what I was coming in every

0:26:42.000 --> 0:26:46.320
<v Speaker 1>day with. I mean, the whole premise is I think

0:26:46.359 --> 0:26:50.280
<v Speaker 1>even now it's it's kind of crazily relatable in a

0:26:50.280 --> 0:26:54.720
<v Speaker 1>weird way, just everything kind of collapsing like so quickly,

0:26:54.880 --> 0:26:58.600
<v Speaker 1>and some of the parallels to just you know, all

0:26:58.680 --> 0:27:02.159
<v Speaker 1>the UFO activities that we're seeing now and all this

0:27:02.240 --> 0:27:05.919
<v Speaker 1>stuff that has so much so many parallels, you know,

0:27:06.160 --> 0:27:10.640
<v Speaker 1>And I think that was something that was really exciting

0:27:10.760 --> 0:27:13.480
<v Speaker 1>to be a part of and something that I'm fascinated with.

0:27:13.600 --> 0:27:17.879
<v Speaker 1>So I love that storyline and those plot lines. And

0:27:17.920 --> 0:27:20.960
<v Speaker 1>then I also loved the just the idea of like

0:27:21.800 --> 0:27:24.800
<v Speaker 1>what happens when you only have your family to rely on,

0:27:25.040 --> 0:27:27.280
<v Speaker 1>and the family it's so split, you know. I think

0:27:28.200 --> 0:27:31.639
<v Speaker 1>like there's you can make the reference politically nowadays with

0:27:31.720 --> 0:27:34.239
<v Speaker 1>people's household just being split on their own, you know.

0:27:34.320 --> 0:27:37.439
<v Speaker 1>And I think there's so many parallels that made that

0:27:37.520 --> 0:27:41.239
<v Speaker 1>show so great and relatable. And also I really liked

0:27:41.280 --> 0:27:44.520
<v Speaker 1>that they, like you said, just didn't show the Beast,

0:27:44.560 --> 0:27:48.480
<v Speaker 1>didn't show the aliens, like conjures up so much more

0:27:48.480 --> 0:27:51.760
<v Speaker 1>in your mind, and the mind is really what wanders,

0:27:51.760 --> 0:27:55.640
<v Speaker 1>and that's the fear that that gets you more more

0:27:55.760 --> 0:27:58.800
<v Speaker 1>likely than not. But yeah, I think it was just

0:27:58.840 --> 0:28:01.120
<v Speaker 1>a big learning experience for me that show.

0:28:01.640 --> 0:28:06.199
<v Speaker 2>So first off, it's not just television versus film, there

0:28:06.600 --> 0:28:10.680
<v Speaker 2>is a different perspective. But also for you your first real

0:28:10.760 --> 0:28:16.320
<v Speaker 2>experience working on a character over a progression of time,

0:28:16.800 --> 0:28:22.120
<v Speaker 2>which is very different. I can speak to it very clearly.

0:28:22.680 --> 0:28:25.920
<v Speaker 2>There are things about the character that have not been

0:28:26.000 --> 0:28:32.000
<v Speaker 2>written yet that continue to evolve and change your character

0:28:32.280 --> 0:28:35.040
<v Speaker 2>as you're working on it. Did you find that exciting

0:28:35.160 --> 0:28:37.400
<v Speaker 2>or was that difficult for you? It sounds like difficult

0:28:37.440 --> 0:28:40.120
<v Speaker 2>in season one and you started to figure some stuff out.

0:28:40.920 --> 0:28:43.240
<v Speaker 1>It was it was difficult, I did, yeah, because I

0:28:43.320 --> 0:28:47.640
<v Speaker 1>didn't know where it was going, and I didn't I

0:28:47.720 --> 0:28:52.840
<v Speaker 1>didn't I hadn't grasped the concept yet of fully creating

0:28:53.160 --> 0:28:57.000
<v Speaker 1>the character without knowing what the end was going to

0:28:57.080 --> 0:28:59.680
<v Speaker 1>be for that character, you know, because when you're on

0:28:59.720 --> 0:29:02.240
<v Speaker 1>a show, you have the whole script and you know

0:29:02.320 --> 0:29:05.520
<v Speaker 1>what the arc is or you kind of know where

0:29:05.520 --> 0:29:08.040
<v Speaker 1>it could be going or how you want to play that.

0:29:08.320 --> 0:29:12.680
<v Speaker 1>And when we were getting scripts like a week before

0:29:12.720 --> 0:29:15.160
<v Speaker 1>we could start filming, it was like, oh, there's this.

0:29:15.280 --> 0:29:17.960
<v Speaker 1>So I think in a way it was like discovery

0:29:17.960 --> 0:29:20.560
<v Speaker 1>on the fly, which made it really exciting. But also

0:29:21.240 --> 0:29:24.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I was equipped enough, right. I just

0:29:24.440 --> 0:29:28.680
<v Speaker 1>don't feel like I in that first season I connected

0:29:28.800 --> 0:29:30.920
<v Speaker 1>enough that as I as much as I wanted to,

0:29:31.200 --> 0:29:35.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, especially coming off like Ithaca and how I

0:29:35.680 --> 0:29:39.160
<v Speaker 1>felt connected to that, it felt like a totally different process.

0:29:39.280 --> 0:29:42.000
<v Speaker 1>But it was something that I really I think I

0:29:42.080 --> 0:29:45.840
<v Speaker 1>did pick up on quickly, and I learned best by

0:29:45.880 --> 0:29:50.520
<v Speaker 1>doing things and by like failing and learning from my failures.

0:29:50.560 --> 0:29:54.800
<v Speaker 1>So for me, that was that was kind of the

0:29:54.800 --> 0:29:57.840
<v Speaker 1>way I think I learned that on that show, especially

0:29:57.840 --> 0:29:58.640
<v Speaker 1>that first season.

0:29:59.520 --> 0:30:02.800
<v Speaker 2>Several more months ago, I had the pleasure of getting

0:30:02.840 --> 0:30:06.040
<v Speaker 2>to know and talking to on this podcast, Sarah Wayne

0:30:06.080 --> 0:30:10.479
<v Speaker 2>Kelly's who he's spent a lot of time with. She

0:30:10.720 --> 0:30:13.800
<v Speaker 2>is the best, right, What was your experience like? And again,

0:30:14.680 --> 0:30:17.760
<v Speaker 2>you know you're starting, you know, you're starting with Meg

0:30:17.880 --> 0:30:23.360
<v Speaker 2>Ryan and hanging around Sam Shephard and so forth, but

0:30:23.440 --> 0:30:27.360
<v Speaker 2>now you have an experience where you're spending multiple years

0:30:28.000 --> 0:30:30.600
<v Speaker 2>with a cast of actors. Just talk to me a

0:30:30.640 --> 0:30:34.160
<v Speaker 2>little bit about your experience working working with her A

0:30:34.200 --> 0:30:35.160
<v Speaker 2>real professional?

0:30:35.600 --> 0:30:38.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that's what I learned, was how to

0:30:38.240 --> 0:30:42.840
<v Speaker 1>be a professional with watching her and Josh and Peter

0:30:42.960 --> 0:30:46.680
<v Speaker 1>and Tory and all the amazing actors on that show.

0:30:46.880 --> 0:30:51.720
<v Speaker 1>I think there's so much more material and watching day

0:30:51.760 --> 0:30:54.240
<v Speaker 1>in and day out, Like I just tried to be

0:30:54.280 --> 0:30:57.000
<v Speaker 1>a sponge as much as I could. I probably I

0:30:57.040 --> 0:30:59.480
<v Speaker 1>didn't say much the first season. I feel like I

0:30:59.480 --> 0:31:02.600
<v Speaker 1>think I was like scared and removed from everybody, and

0:31:02.640 --> 0:31:04.960
<v Speaker 1>I was just like, this is crazy, and so I

0:31:05.040 --> 0:31:07.120
<v Speaker 1>was really just trying to watch what they were doing

0:31:07.160 --> 0:31:10.400
<v Speaker 1>and see how they carried themselves and how they interacted

0:31:10.440 --> 0:31:13.360
<v Speaker 1>and what their focus was. And I picked up on

0:31:14.240 --> 0:31:17.520
<v Speaker 1>her like rituals that she would have that would help her,

0:31:17.800 --> 0:31:20.680
<v Speaker 1>and I think that helped me develop my own process

0:31:20.760 --> 0:31:25.080
<v Speaker 1>and see what was working for me. And one time

0:31:25.520 --> 0:31:29.560
<v Speaker 1>in the first season that Josh specifically mentioned something to

0:31:29.600 --> 0:31:33.000
<v Speaker 1>me that really opened up my mind a bit, which

0:31:33.080 --> 0:31:35.719
<v Speaker 1>was I was giving a bunch of notes kind of

0:31:35.760 --> 0:31:39.600
<v Speaker 1>every take from one of our directors, and Josh came

0:31:39.680 --> 0:31:42.320
<v Speaker 1>up to me and he said, hey, man, like you

0:31:42.360 --> 0:31:44.280
<v Speaker 1>know what you're doing. You know your character at this

0:31:44.360 --> 0:31:48.440
<v Speaker 1>point more than anybody, Like, you know, take take it,

0:31:48.840 --> 0:31:51.720
<v Speaker 1>but you don't have to bend everything if it's not

0:31:51.840 --> 0:31:56.120
<v Speaker 1>feeling right to you. And I feel like that was

0:31:56.520 --> 0:31:58.640
<v Speaker 1>something that was eye opening because it made me have

0:31:58.840 --> 0:32:01.840
<v Speaker 1>more confidence kind of in the character and in what

0:32:01.920 --> 0:32:04.400
<v Speaker 1>I was doing. And I think that's something I really

0:32:04.440 --> 0:32:07.600
<v Speaker 1>love I learned from them is they all knew what

0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:11.800
<v Speaker 1>they were doing, and they came in confident and they

0:32:11.800 --> 0:32:14.800
<v Speaker 1>didn't need five takes to get there. They needed one

0:32:14.880 --> 0:32:18.800
<v Speaker 1>or two and they were there. So, Yeah, she's she's amazing.

0:32:19.960 --> 0:32:22.360
<v Speaker 1>Always been super impressed with her. And then in the

0:32:22.400 --> 0:32:25.520
<v Speaker 1>third season she got she got to direct us, so

0:32:25.560 --> 0:32:29.600
<v Speaker 1>that was special too, and really cool to see how

0:32:29.640 --> 0:32:32.800
<v Speaker 1>that process worked and how hard she worked on that.

0:32:33.320 --> 0:32:36.960
<v Speaker 1>It is just inspiring that fire is still lit and

0:32:37.000 --> 0:32:37.920
<v Speaker 1>I love to see that.

0:32:38.760 --> 0:32:45.440
<v Speaker 2>Several other film and television appearances which then brought you

0:32:45.920 --> 0:32:49.800
<v Speaker 2>to American Rust. Now this wasn't your character, but I

0:32:49.840 --> 0:32:53.240
<v Speaker 2>got to tell you American Rust has been coming up,

0:32:53.560 --> 0:32:55.480
<v Speaker 2>and not just because by the way, which we're going

0:32:55.560 --> 0:33:00.440
<v Speaker 2>to talk about season two Broken Justice just out here

0:33:00.840 --> 0:33:06.120
<v Speaker 2>within the last month. Okay, before we talk about you there,

0:33:06.240 --> 0:33:10.120
<v Speaker 2>there's a scene in American Rust which is discussed in

0:33:10.320 --> 0:33:15.160
<v Speaker 2>or amongst my friend group, my family has been since.

0:33:15.520 --> 0:33:17.960
<v Speaker 2>And I don't know if you've checked out Baby Reindeer yet,

0:33:18.160 --> 0:33:20.560
<v Speaker 2>there is a there is a scene you haven't seen

0:33:20.600 --> 0:33:24.440
<v Speaker 2>it yet. Okay, there's a scene in Baby Reindeer which

0:33:24.520 --> 0:33:29.880
<v Speaker 2>then now is making this this scene from American Rust

0:33:30.120 --> 0:33:35.680
<v Speaker 2>one of the most I don't even know what you call.

0:33:35.520 --> 0:33:37.280
<v Speaker 3>It chilling.

0:33:39.360 --> 0:33:48.000
<v Speaker 2>Awkward scenes in television ever, the lowing scene from American Rus.

0:33:48.640 --> 0:33:52.120
<v Speaker 2>I mean the way, the time that they took and

0:33:52.160 --> 0:33:56.640
<v Speaker 2>when they got there. Yeah, I don't even know. I

0:33:56.640 --> 0:33:59.280
<v Speaker 2>don't really have a question. I'm just telling it. It's

0:33:59.320 --> 0:34:04.320
<v Speaker 2>just talking. I just had to tell you that in

0:34:04.440 --> 0:34:10.440
<v Speaker 2>or around my friends and family group occasionally people low. Okay,

0:34:10.560 --> 0:34:14.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying that. I'm just saying that there is

0:34:15.239 --> 0:34:19.080
<v Speaker 2>there's a sound that happens, and everybody knows what we're

0:34:19.080 --> 0:34:22.960
<v Speaker 2>referring to. Go yeah, And I guess it kind of

0:34:22.960 --> 0:34:25.880
<v Speaker 2>doesn't get any more iconic than that. I mean that

0:34:26.040 --> 0:34:28.799
<v Speaker 2>it's sort of as simple as that, Yeah, you're gonna

0:34:28.920 --> 0:34:30.960
<v Speaker 2>if you're gonna low. And by the way, if you're

0:34:31.000 --> 0:34:33.399
<v Speaker 2>listening right now and you don't know what I'm referring to,

0:34:33.560 --> 0:34:36.520
<v Speaker 2>you don't even you might not even know what lowing means.

0:34:37.160 --> 0:34:41.120
<v Speaker 2>But once you see it, you never forget it.

0:34:42.200 --> 0:34:42.439
<v Speaker 3>Never.

0:34:42.960 --> 0:34:47.560
<v Speaker 1>I actually have a really funny story about Lowing, about

0:34:47.600 --> 0:34:52.560
<v Speaker 1>Lowing when we first read that script, because because we

0:34:52.640 --> 0:34:57.279
<v Speaker 1>were all living together, me David who plays Isaac, and

0:34:57.800 --> 0:35:01.920
<v Speaker 1>Julie who plays Lee, because COVID happened like two days

0:35:01.920 --> 0:35:05.279
<v Speaker 1>before we started the first season, and so we got

0:35:05.360 --> 0:35:08.000
<v Speaker 1>shut down and everyone, like I had just driven out

0:35:08.000 --> 0:35:09.880
<v Speaker 1>from LA, they had just come from New York, they

0:35:09.920 --> 0:35:12.239
<v Speaker 1>didn't have places to go back to. I didn't, you know,

0:35:12.280 --> 0:35:14.879
<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to go back to LA. So we

0:35:15.120 --> 0:35:18.880
<v Speaker 1>stayed in Pittsburgh and hunkered down and we had just

0:35:18.960 --> 0:35:25.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of met, so we essentially started like just hanging

0:35:25.040 --> 0:35:28.920
<v Speaker 1>out and living together, and it was maybe a month

0:35:29.000 --> 0:35:32.000
<v Speaker 1>in that we got those scripts, which I think I

0:35:32.120 --> 0:35:34.560
<v Speaker 1>forget which episode it was, and we were like, let's

0:35:34.560 --> 0:35:35.360
<v Speaker 1>read the scripts.

0:35:35.760 --> 0:35:38.400
<v Speaker 2>I think it was like read it out loud together.

0:35:38.480 --> 0:35:40.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's just read it out loud together. We had

0:35:40.120 --> 0:35:41.839
<v Speaker 1>all the time in the world, you know, we were

0:35:41.880 --> 0:35:42.840
<v Speaker 1>just hanging out at that.

0:35:42.880 --> 0:35:45.400
<v Speaker 2>So the whole cast, not not the whole cast, but

0:35:45.520 --> 0:35:47.240
<v Speaker 2>just the three of you and you would read different

0:35:47.400 --> 0:35:48.240
<v Speaker 2>parts or whatever.

0:35:48.480 --> 0:35:50.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we would exactly like we would just read the

0:35:50.840 --> 0:35:55.640
<v Speaker 1>opposite parts right at the time. And yeah, so we

0:35:55.640 --> 0:35:57.799
<v Speaker 1>were reading the script and I remember it's me. I

0:35:57.880 --> 0:36:02.680
<v Speaker 1>was reading The business Man, okay, and we started reading

0:36:02.760 --> 0:36:07.279
<v Speaker 1>through it and I'm like looking back at Dave, I'm like,

0:36:07.680 --> 0:36:10.240
<v Speaker 1>what is going on? And we just had to stop

0:36:10.840 --> 0:36:13.439
<v Speaker 1>for a minute and like put our hands in our heads.

0:36:13.480 --> 0:36:16.040
<v Speaker 1>We're like, what is going on? This is the craziest

0:36:16.080 --> 0:36:19.480
<v Speaker 1>thing I've ever read. And uh, it was. It was

0:36:19.560 --> 0:36:22.200
<v Speaker 1>live to do that in real time, to see the reaction.

0:36:22.400 --> 0:36:26.080
<v Speaker 3>And but yeah, that's you were a part of it.

0:36:26.239 --> 0:36:29.759
<v Speaker 2>You were a part of the lowing. You you were

0:36:30.280 --> 0:36:35.680
<v Speaker 2>you were the first reader of the lowing exactly. Wow,

0:36:36.440 --> 0:36:39.440
<v Speaker 2>congratulations on that. I don't know if you'll ever beat that.

0:36:39.600 --> 0:37:02.279
<v Speaker 2>Quite frankly, I mean, there is the lowing. Wow. So

0:37:02.400 --> 0:37:06.680
<v Speaker 2>you're in Pittsburgh. I'm done with the lowing now. I

0:37:06.760 --> 0:37:09.640
<v Speaker 2>just I had to tell you. It's just it's a thing.

0:37:09.760 --> 0:37:13.640
<v Speaker 2>It's like a thing. So you so you go out

0:37:13.680 --> 0:37:19.440
<v Speaker 2>to start COVID shuts everything down, now are they? And

0:37:19.480 --> 0:37:21.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm not getting into your your business. I'm just sort

0:37:21.600 --> 0:37:25.439
<v Speaker 2>of fascinated by it. So the other two folks, they've

0:37:25.480 --> 0:37:28.200
<v Speaker 2>given up their apartments in New York probably or they're

0:37:28.320 --> 0:37:32.680
<v Speaker 2>sub letting them. Yeah, and you've come from LA and

0:37:32.880 --> 0:37:35.160
<v Speaker 2>La is not a place to go back to. So

0:37:35.280 --> 0:37:38.239
<v Speaker 2>are they paying for you to stay there? Or you

0:37:38.280 --> 0:37:42.760
<v Speaker 2>guys are just now you're just three actors living in Pittsburgh.

0:37:43.120 --> 0:37:45.879
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So they paid for like half of it because

0:37:46.040 --> 0:37:48.680
<v Speaker 1>I had like an X amount that we were supposed

0:37:48.760 --> 0:37:50.839
<v Speaker 1>to get for the that would have covered the whole thing.

0:37:50.880 --> 0:37:53.560
<v Speaker 1>And then they're like, well, because all this happened, we

0:37:53.640 --> 0:37:56.680
<v Speaker 1>can only cover half of it essentially.

0:37:56.760 --> 0:38:00.040
<v Speaker 2>So of like your rent.

0:37:59.400 --> 0:38:02.640
<v Speaker 1>Rent Yeah, because I essentially signed like a six month

0:38:02.920 --> 0:38:04.760
<v Speaker 1>because I was going to be there for six months.

0:38:04.880 --> 0:38:08.360
<v Speaker 1>So David and I ended up staying for six months,

0:38:08.440 --> 0:38:11.880
<v Speaker 1>just in Pittsburgh during the beginning of COVID, and so

0:38:12.080 --> 0:38:15.840
<v Speaker 1>like we got like weirdly enough, we got all of

0:38:15.920 --> 0:38:20.080
<v Speaker 1>us got super close because it really felt like life

0:38:20.160 --> 0:38:23.480
<v Speaker 1>imitating art a bit. We started exploring Pittsburgh that like

0:38:23.520 --> 0:38:27.000
<v Speaker 1>there was no restaurants to really go to at that time,

0:38:27.160 --> 0:38:30.560
<v Speaker 1>so we were just we were like hunkered down really

0:38:30.600 --> 0:38:35.320
<v Speaker 1>like bonding, getting close and just like you know, figuring

0:38:35.360 --> 0:38:37.040
<v Speaker 1>things out. The coolest thing I'd say we did is

0:38:37.040 --> 0:38:40.800
<v Speaker 1>we snuck into the Pittsburgh Zoo multiple times.

0:38:42.920 --> 0:38:44.920
<v Speaker 2>It was closed, but you guys just snuck in.

0:38:45.280 --> 0:38:45.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:38:45.520 --> 0:38:48.520
<v Speaker 1>So we went on this hike and where the hike

0:38:48.840 --> 0:38:52.040
<v Speaker 1>was it was kind of near our house. I was

0:38:52.040 --> 0:38:54.320
<v Speaker 1>like looking on my maps, I'm like, whoa, the zoo

0:38:54.400 --> 0:38:58.399
<v Speaker 1>is like just right up this hill. And we went

0:38:58.840 --> 0:39:01.600
<v Speaker 1>we started walking. There's like no fence. There's a tiny

0:39:01.680 --> 0:39:05.200
<v Speaker 1>little plastic fence or something that we just could push

0:39:05.239 --> 0:39:08.319
<v Speaker 1>down and hop over. And We're like, there's no encampment here,

0:39:08.320 --> 0:39:10.440
<v Speaker 1>like this is there's not lions that we're about to

0:39:11.080 --> 0:39:13.680
<v Speaker 1>walk into, right, And so at first it was like

0:39:13.880 --> 0:39:16.920
<v Speaker 1>very like a little intense, but I was there's no

0:39:16.960 --> 0:39:20.000
<v Speaker 1>way because a lion could have jumped over that little fence.

0:39:20.040 --> 0:39:21.799
<v Speaker 1>So I was like, we're good. And then we just

0:39:21.880 --> 0:39:25.160
<v Speaker 1>walked in and like, wow, there's no one here. There's

0:39:25.160 --> 0:39:28.800
<v Speaker 1>still animals. So we just started like perusing the zoo.

0:39:29.640 --> 0:39:31.440
<v Speaker 2>Were there zoo keepers there?

0:39:31.560 --> 0:39:36.040
<v Speaker 1>That there's one zoo keeper. And on our way back,

0:39:37.000 --> 0:39:39.279
<v Speaker 1>we're just walking and we're like, oh, there's a there's

0:39:39.320 --> 0:39:42.239
<v Speaker 1>a zoo keeper just like coming towards us and we're

0:39:42.280 --> 0:39:44.359
<v Speaker 1>walking and we just kind of like walked past him.

0:39:44.360 --> 0:39:46.080
<v Speaker 1>We're just like play cool, you know, just like we're

0:39:46.120 --> 0:39:49.319
<v Speaker 1>at the zoo. He's like, guys, where you go? What

0:39:49.360 --> 0:39:51.960
<v Speaker 1>are you doing? You can't be here? And we're like, oh,

0:39:52.360 --> 0:39:56.720
<v Speaker 1>are you guys closed? And he's like, yeah, you can't

0:39:56.920 --> 0:39:59.759
<v Speaker 1>be in the zoo or I know you guys missed

0:39:59.760 --> 0:40:03.759
<v Speaker 1>the animals, but like I understand, Like he was like

0:40:03.880 --> 0:40:06.640
<v Speaker 1>I understand why you're here, but yeah, it's really can't

0:40:06.640 --> 0:40:09.880
<v Speaker 1>be doing that. I'm gonna get in trouble. And we're like, oh, shoot,

0:40:09.960 --> 0:40:12.920
<v Speaker 1>we're so And this was like four hours into the

0:40:14.040 --> 0:40:17.640
<v Speaker 1>to your experience. Yeah, like we were like it was crazy.

0:40:17.760 --> 0:40:20.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well not to like so that sounds like colony

0:40:21.000 --> 0:40:26.000
<v Speaker 2>or something like suddenly you're just there at an abandoned zoo.

0:40:26.360 --> 0:40:28.920
<v Speaker 2>You have one person who's taking care of the animals

0:40:28.960 --> 0:40:31.560
<v Speaker 2>and you guys are just hanging cause. I think that

0:40:32.520 --> 0:40:35.960
<v Speaker 2>I like a good zoo. Don't get me wrong. I

0:40:36.000 --> 0:40:39.759
<v Speaker 2>don't always love having to fight into the front of

0:40:39.800 --> 0:40:42.600
<v Speaker 2>the fence to be able to see what's going on

0:40:42.719 --> 0:40:45.319
<v Speaker 2>at the zoo. But to be able to sit and

0:40:45.360 --> 0:40:48.640
<v Speaker 2>hang out and just like watch the gorillas or whatever.

0:40:49.160 --> 0:40:50.800
<v Speaker 2>That sounds incredible.

0:40:51.320 --> 0:40:53.640
<v Speaker 1>It was, man, it really was. There was also a

0:40:53.680 --> 0:40:59.320
<v Speaker 1>section where it was a bunch of goats and you

0:40:59.400 --> 0:41:02.960
<v Speaker 1>had the you did. We were in the encampment with

0:41:03.000 --> 0:41:05.160
<v Speaker 1>all the goats and we're like, there's no one here.

0:41:05.239 --> 0:41:07.600
<v Speaker 1>This is the craziest. Like we were like hanging out

0:41:07.640 --> 0:41:12.720
<v Speaker 1>with the goat and they were they were so happy

0:41:12.760 --> 0:41:15.879
<v Speaker 1>because they hadn't seen anybody. It was, you know, they

0:41:15.880 --> 0:41:19.480
<v Speaker 1>were essentially an isolation to it felt like like so

0:41:19.560 --> 0:41:22.560
<v Speaker 1>we were like getting them wiled up and it was crazy.

0:41:22.560 --> 0:41:26.600
<v Speaker 1>There was maybe like half the animals were there, and yeah,

0:41:26.680 --> 0:41:29.120
<v Speaker 1>there was lions there. I feel like they looked a

0:41:29.160 --> 0:41:32.239
<v Speaker 1>lot like pretty sad actually, because there wasn't that interaction

0:41:32.920 --> 0:41:35.640
<v Speaker 1>with the people. Maybe like there wasn't They were just

0:41:35.719 --> 0:41:37.839
<v Speaker 1>kind of fully by themselves in these encampments.

0:41:37.840 --> 0:41:41.440
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, that was a wild experience.

0:41:41.480 --> 0:41:45.040
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, that's unbelievable. I love that. So you

0:41:45.080 --> 0:41:47.399
<v Speaker 2>would just go hang out the zoo, you were hanging

0:41:47.400 --> 0:41:50.760
<v Speaker 2>out with these and so then back to work. After

0:41:50.840 --> 0:41:54.239
<v Speaker 2>six months, you're still not filming, is that right? So

0:41:54.280 --> 0:41:56.239
<v Speaker 2>then you then you leave Pittsburgh.

0:41:56.320 --> 0:41:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, then I leave and I drove back. I made

0:42:00.080 --> 0:42:02.200
<v Speaker 1>a big road trip out of it because I had

0:42:02.800 --> 0:42:05.279
<v Speaker 1>I got my dog. I brought my dog back to

0:42:05.560 --> 0:42:08.160
<v Speaker 1>Pittsburgh with me during the middle of the pandemic just

0:42:08.160 --> 0:42:12.400
<v Speaker 1>because I needed the dogg Oh, and then I drove back,

0:42:12.800 --> 0:42:16.120
<v Speaker 1>made a road trip out of it. And that was

0:42:16.120 --> 0:42:19.560
<v Speaker 1>really amazing too, because at that time it hadn't gotten

0:42:19.600 --> 0:42:23.520
<v Speaker 1>crazy where everybody was road tripping and doing the parts

0:42:23.560 --> 0:42:25.600
<v Speaker 1>and all that, so it was still pretty empty.

0:42:26.200 --> 0:42:27.520
<v Speaker 3>So that was that was amazing.

0:42:28.680 --> 0:42:30.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you've ever heard this before or not,

0:42:30.920 --> 0:42:33.320
<v Speaker 2>but mister Rogers was filmed in Pittsburgh.

0:42:34.480 --> 0:42:36.120
<v Speaker 3>Oh I didn't know that.

0:42:36.200 --> 0:42:38.279
<v Speaker 2>Oh you didn't know that. Oh that was me. That

0:42:38.400 --> 0:42:40.920
<v Speaker 2>was me being a smart alec. Anytime you're in Pittsburgh,

0:42:40.960 --> 0:42:44.240
<v Speaker 2>they're like, did you know you're in the entertainment industry?

0:42:44.360 --> 0:42:47.560
<v Speaker 2>Mister Rogers was and I was like, oh, really, wow,

0:42:47.880 --> 0:42:49.919
<v Speaker 2>And then I think I've heard that ten thousand times

0:42:50.000 --> 0:42:52.120
<v Speaker 2>although you lived there six months and you didn't know,

0:42:52.239 --> 0:42:57.560
<v Speaker 2>so I should I should just shut it. I was

0:42:57.560 --> 0:42:59.160
<v Speaker 2>a big fan of the show. You get to work

0:42:59.200 --> 0:43:01.960
<v Speaker 2>with two of My Face where it's Jeff Daniels, Mara

0:43:02.160 --> 0:43:07.720
<v Speaker 2>Tyranny plays your mom, and then it's canceled, it goes away,

0:43:08.160 --> 0:43:14.400
<v Speaker 2>it's dead for like years. Yeah, and now it's back. So,

0:43:14.600 --> 0:43:16.840
<v Speaker 2>first off, how did it feel were you? Were you

0:43:16.960 --> 0:43:19.200
<v Speaker 2>happy with the show? Were you proud of the show?

0:43:20.360 --> 0:43:24.760
<v Speaker 1>I was, I think I mean, obviously I can always

0:43:24.840 --> 0:43:29.240
<v Speaker 1>nitpick my stuff to to death, but I was proud

0:43:29.440 --> 0:43:33.000
<v Speaker 1>of it. Ultimately. I think I think what we were

0:43:33.280 --> 0:43:36.239
<v Speaker 1>trying to go for and the story we were trying

0:43:36.239 --> 0:43:40.840
<v Speaker 1>to tell was really dark and and twisted. And I

0:43:42.120 --> 0:43:44.480
<v Speaker 1>mean it's based off the book the first season, and

0:43:44.840 --> 0:43:48.120
<v Speaker 1>I absolutely loved the book, and so I think, yeah,

0:43:48.160 --> 0:43:48.360
<v Speaker 1>I was.

0:43:48.560 --> 0:43:49.640
<v Speaker 3>I was really proud of it.

0:43:50.680 --> 0:43:53.240
<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm intentionally not trying to give it away

0:43:53.280 --> 0:43:57.840
<v Speaker 2>because if you haven't checked out season one of American Rust,

0:43:58.280 --> 0:44:02.839
<v Speaker 2>you should. And so it's over, and then you think

0:44:02.880 --> 0:44:09.080
<v Speaker 2>it's over, and then Amazon says, hey, let's let's go again.

0:44:09.960 --> 0:44:17.040
<v Speaker 2>Uh just released this month American Rust colon Broken Justice,

0:44:17.080 --> 0:44:19.719
<v Speaker 2>which is season two. How was it for you to

0:44:19.840 --> 0:44:24.600
<v Speaker 2>revisit Billy after after several years?

0:44:25.120 --> 0:44:28.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was. It was really exciting because it felt

0:44:28.520 --> 0:44:33.200
<v Speaker 1>like we had a big plot of story that needed

0:44:33.239 --> 0:44:37.560
<v Speaker 1>to still be unwinded and explained. And I think the

0:44:37.640 --> 0:44:41.640
<v Speaker 1>Wave season one ended, there was so many storylines that

0:44:41.719 --> 0:44:44.000
<v Speaker 1>hadn't been wrapped up yet that it just kind of

0:44:44.000 --> 0:44:48.840
<v Speaker 1>felt like we needed to wrap this and explain what happens.

0:44:49.840 --> 0:44:50.440
<v Speaker 3>And so it was.

0:44:50.560 --> 0:44:53.160
<v Speaker 1>It was a release. It was definitely a rollercoaster because

0:44:53.680 --> 0:44:57.240
<v Speaker 1>it got canceled and and you know, I was like, okay,

0:44:57.280 --> 0:44:59.360
<v Speaker 1>I can I'm going to move on to something else,

0:44:59.560 --> 0:45:02.520
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm going to try and clear this out of

0:45:02.560 --> 0:45:06.239
<v Speaker 1>my cash, out of my brain and just like move

0:45:06.280 --> 0:45:10.160
<v Speaker 1>onward career wise. And then it gets real brought back

0:45:10.239 --> 0:45:13.080
<v Speaker 1>up and and I think it was cool to like

0:45:13.440 --> 0:45:17.440
<v Speaker 1>get back into that headspace and dive back into that

0:45:17.520 --> 0:45:21.200
<v Speaker 1>character and kind of see where the creators wanted to

0:45:21.960 --> 0:45:24.920
<v Speaker 1>take the storylines. I think they brought a bunch of

0:45:25.000 --> 0:45:29.319
<v Speaker 1>interesting ideas and things for me to work on and

0:45:29.360 --> 0:45:34.400
<v Speaker 1>play with. And PTSD was something that was really prevalent

0:45:34.480 --> 0:45:38.560
<v Speaker 1>for my character in this season and the physical ailments

0:45:38.920 --> 0:45:41.239
<v Speaker 1>and it's kind of how it juxtaposes the character in

0:45:41.239 --> 0:45:43.760
<v Speaker 1>the first season is really fun to play.

0:45:43.960 --> 0:45:49.920
<v Speaker 2>So now that's that's awesome and an incredible challenge to

0:45:50.719 --> 0:45:53.600
<v Speaker 2>essentially be playing the same guy but have it be very,

0:45:54.520 --> 0:45:59.440
<v Speaker 2>very different. Congratulations on that. I encourage everybody to go

0:45:59.600 --> 0:46:04.680
<v Speaker 2>check out O season one if you haven't. There's more

0:46:04.719 --> 0:46:06.839
<v Speaker 2>than one thing, but there's some things you don't want

0:46:06.840 --> 0:46:11.440
<v Speaker 2>to miss in season one, and then check out Broken Justice.

0:46:11.760 --> 0:46:15.759
<v Speaker 2>And now you got a big new project coming up.

0:46:15.960 --> 0:46:20.200
<v Speaker 2>It ends with us. You play alongside Blake Lively and

0:46:20.440 --> 0:46:24.239
<v Speaker 2>Justin Baldoni. How is it like working with them? Are

0:46:24.239 --> 0:46:25.520
<v Speaker 2>you excited about it?

0:46:26.560 --> 0:46:31.040
<v Speaker 1>I am really excited about it. So my character is

0:46:31.080 --> 0:46:35.160
<v Speaker 1>like the young version of Young Atlas, and so that's

0:46:35.200 --> 0:46:37.920
<v Speaker 1>who is like working with Blake, So I didn't Actually

0:46:37.920 --> 0:46:39.440
<v Speaker 1>I haven't even met Blake yet.

0:46:39.800 --> 0:46:40.320
<v Speaker 3>You haven't.

0:46:40.640 --> 0:46:43.359
<v Speaker 1>I haven't. I haven't met Blake. So I just really

0:46:43.400 --> 0:46:46.319
<v Speaker 1>worked with Justin. You was our director as well as

0:46:46.320 --> 0:46:49.799
<v Speaker 1>you start stars in it, and it was just me

0:46:50.000 --> 0:46:54.120
<v Speaker 1>and Isabella Ferrara, who plays young Millie, and we did

0:46:54.160 --> 0:46:58.680
<v Speaker 1>it like right before the strike, and they actually told us, oh, sorry,

0:46:58.719 --> 0:47:01.080
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna have to wait till after this, right right

0:47:01.160 --> 0:47:04.560
<v Speaker 1>before and we're like what, So they canceled and then

0:47:04.560 --> 0:47:06.960
<v Speaker 1>the next day the next morning, we're like, just kidding,

0:47:08.200 --> 0:47:11.720
<v Speaker 1>you're working on Monday. And so we had I was like, okay,

0:47:11.760 --> 0:47:14.480
<v Speaker 1>amazing to get to go. So we had two weeks

0:47:14.719 --> 0:47:17.040
<v Speaker 1>and that was kind of all my filming was.

0:47:17.280 --> 0:47:18.960
<v Speaker 3>It was two weeks for that.

0:47:19.000 --> 0:47:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Right before the strike, so we were really lucky to

0:47:21.360 --> 0:47:24.600
<v Speaker 1>do it before that happened. But it was really fun project.

0:47:24.680 --> 0:47:28.560
<v Speaker 1>I like, the book is is really.

0:47:28.480 --> 0:47:32.400
<v Speaker 2>Really Have you read Colleen Hoover's novel?

0:47:32.960 --> 0:47:36.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's it's amazing. That was really part of the

0:47:37.320 --> 0:47:39.200
<v Speaker 1>A big part of the prep for me was I

0:47:39.239 --> 0:47:42.600
<v Speaker 1>needed to read that and see really what is going

0:47:42.640 --> 0:47:45.360
<v Speaker 1>on here, especially the young version which I was playing.

0:47:46.000 --> 0:47:50.400
<v Speaker 1>And I also was really fascinated with Maine. I hadn't

0:47:50.400 --> 0:47:53.719
<v Speaker 1>been to that part of the country. So I was

0:47:53.760 --> 0:47:55.560
<v Speaker 1>already in New York and I had my little tear

0:47:55.640 --> 0:47:57.279
<v Speaker 1>job trailer that I camp out of a lot, and

0:47:57.280 --> 0:48:00.440
<v Speaker 1>I just drove up and explored Maine in a kadia

0:48:00.600 --> 0:48:03.640
<v Speaker 1>and kind of just wanted to get a sense of

0:48:03.680 --> 0:48:07.520
<v Speaker 1>what that landscape was, the people, the energy. Never had

0:48:07.600 --> 0:48:12.799
<v Speaker 1>lobster before so out there never No, wasn't a big

0:48:12.800 --> 0:48:15.120
<v Speaker 1>fish guy Kansas. We don't have a lot of fresh fish.

0:48:15.200 --> 0:48:18.919
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I guess that's true. Did you end up

0:48:19.760 --> 0:48:23.239
<v Speaker 2>bunking with some of your mates and hanging out for

0:48:23.280 --> 0:48:26.719
<v Speaker 2>six months in Maine during the strike like you did?

0:48:26.800 --> 0:48:30.799
<v Speaker 2>Coke sneak into a zoo there in Maine or a

0:48:30.840 --> 0:48:33.880
<v Speaker 2>marine biologist slayer anything?

0:48:34.480 --> 0:48:37.040
<v Speaker 1>No, nothing that exciting for me.

0:48:39.480 --> 0:48:42.440
<v Speaker 2>Damn been a good story, just so you know for

0:48:42.520 --> 0:48:44.080
<v Speaker 2>next time, Alex.

0:48:45.040 --> 0:48:47.520
<v Speaker 3>Another one.

0:48:48.360 --> 0:48:50.360
<v Speaker 2>Well that win is it out?

0:48:50.560 --> 0:48:55.360
<v Speaker 1>It's out? I think in August. I think August ninth,

0:48:55.440 --> 0:48:57.879
<v Speaker 1>maybe something around. They just changed it.

0:48:58.280 --> 0:49:01.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh, they just changed it. Yeah. You know, the strike

0:49:01.880 --> 0:49:04.480
<v Speaker 2>didn't help us in the movie business. I don't know

0:49:04.480 --> 0:49:06.080
<v Speaker 2>if you've heard that or not. It didn't.

0:49:06.239 --> 0:49:06.480
<v Speaker 1>It did.

0:49:06.719 --> 0:49:09.480
<v Speaker 2>It made things a little more up in the air

0:49:09.520 --> 0:49:10.040
<v Speaker 2>than normal.

0:49:10.680 --> 0:49:11.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it did it.

0:49:11.600 --> 0:49:14.120
<v Speaker 1>Also, I feel like there was such a bottleneck of

0:49:14.160 --> 0:49:16.200
<v Speaker 1>things that needed to come out that they were like,

0:49:16.239 --> 0:49:18.560
<v Speaker 1>all right, we're just gonna hold off on creating anything

0:49:18.640 --> 0:49:20.600
<v Speaker 1>new for as long as we can.

0:49:21.280 --> 0:49:24.479
<v Speaker 2>Right, you're working on anything exciting now?

0:49:26.719 --> 0:49:32.120
<v Speaker 1>Right now? Project wise, it's back to auditioning. I got

0:49:32.120 --> 0:49:35.400
<v Speaker 1>some things that I'm I'm really interested in, so we'll see.

0:49:35.880 --> 0:49:40.320
<v Speaker 1>Hopefully I have good news soon. I've just been playing

0:49:40.360 --> 0:49:44.200
<v Speaker 1>a lot of music lately and rock climbing and keeping

0:49:44.239 --> 0:49:49.520
<v Speaker 1>myself active with hobbies and trying to get better whatever

0:49:49.560 --> 0:49:49.919
<v Speaker 1>I can.

0:49:51.640 --> 0:49:57.560
<v Speaker 2>You are awesome one to watch, two, delightful to talk to.

0:49:58.440 --> 0:50:01.759
<v Speaker 2>I have been enjoyed you and everything I've seen you

0:50:01.800 --> 0:50:05.759
<v Speaker 2>in thus far. I can't wait for the new project.

0:50:05.920 --> 0:50:11.480
<v Speaker 2>And good luck and come back and chat anytime you're Alex.

0:50:12.120 --> 0:50:14.840
<v Speaker 1>You're good at this, man, this is this is awesome.

0:50:15.920 --> 0:50:17.319
<v Speaker 1>I love to chat with you.

0:50:17.880 --> 0:50:19.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I'm good at it, but I

0:50:19.680 --> 0:50:21.960
<v Speaker 2>tell you what, I enjoy the hell out of it.

0:50:22.320 --> 0:50:24.880
<v Speaker 2>I really do. And having the opportunity to meet guys

0:50:25.400 --> 0:50:28.560
<v Speaker 2>and gals like you. That was a weird way to

0:50:28.600 --> 0:50:31.239
<v Speaker 2>say it. I really enjoy it. So thank you for

0:50:31.320 --> 0:50:34.480
<v Speaker 2>taking the time. And I hope everybody checks out season

0:50:34.480 --> 0:50:37.560
<v Speaker 2>two and then writes in about the lowing. All right,

0:50:39.960 --> 0:50:42.200
<v Speaker 2>all right, thanks man, I appreciate it.

0:50:42.440 --> 0:50:56.600
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, man, I appreciate you, Alex.

0:50:57.120 --> 0:51:00.359
<v Speaker 2>Thank you for coming on. Very very nice meet you

0:51:00.480 --> 0:51:03.440
<v Speaker 2>and getting to chat with you today. Also, I know

0:51:03.480 --> 0:51:06.680
<v Speaker 2>you're a big KC guy, So good luck to your

0:51:06.800 --> 0:51:10.480
<v Speaker 2>Chiefs this year. You got great things coming ahead in

0:51:10.520 --> 0:51:14.279
<v Speaker 2>your career, Alex, I just know it, So stop back anytime.

0:51:14.840 --> 0:51:17.719
<v Speaker 2>And to my listeners, well you have great stuff ahead too,

0:51:18.120 --> 0:51:23.040
<v Speaker 2>so you stop back anytime and check out American Rust,

0:51:23.200 --> 0:51:29.040
<v Speaker 2>Broken Justice now out on Amazon freeby next week. Well,

0:51:29.080 --> 0:51:31.799
<v Speaker 2>guess what if you come back here, I'm going to

0:51:31.800 --> 0:51:35.680
<v Speaker 2>deliver you something. I'm going to deliver you another fan

0:51:36.160 --> 0:51:41.719
<v Speaker 2>freaking fantastic episode with another well pretty stupendous guest. So

0:51:42.040 --> 0:51:44.480
<v Speaker 2>until then, have a great week.

0:51:51.680 --> 0:51:51.919
<v Speaker 1>Off.

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