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Speaker 4: Paulie sent this one over. The worst word in sports
Speaker 4: collapse quit, cheat, other? Oh, collapse, quit cheat other.
Speaker 5: I think one of them is.
Speaker 2: All right, far the worst. Let's go around the room,
Speaker 2: Todd collapse cheat.
Speaker 6: Cheats stands out for me among the other ones. If
Speaker 6: you're a cheater, that's a lot worse than all of
Speaker 6: a sudden losing a bunch of games or deciding you
Speaker 6: had enough playing, or it's got to be cheat to make.
Speaker 2: Seaton for me, quit quit is by far the worst word. Collapse,
Speaker 2: quit cheat, Marvin.
Speaker 7: I have other loyalty, Okay, that's the worst word in sports.
Speaker 7: It's a business. Oh you're not loyal please?
Speaker 5: Okay?
Speaker 8: Paul, it's quit because if you're cheating, you can still
Speaker 8: make the case that you're trying to help your team win,
Speaker 8: and the fans will weirdly respect that quitter. Remember what
Speaker 8: happened to Ricky Williams. That never leaves you with some
Speaker 8: fan bases.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think quit is the word because we're all
Speaker 2: competitors and you get to that level and when you
Speaker 2: hear a analyst something and I'm always really careful with that.
Speaker 2: I didn't play the game at a high level. But
Speaker 2: when you say somebody quit, I mean that is that's
Speaker 2: a label that's really hard to shed. And if you're
Speaker 2: gonna say that, you better be sure that you're calling
Speaker 2: a team quitters or an individual a quitter. Now, sometimes
Speaker 2: you'll find it in boxing where somebody just quits, you know,
Speaker 2: Roberto Duran, like you just quit, and that stays with
Speaker 2: you as well. We just can't conceive that somebody's.
Speaker 5: Gonna go H. I don't know, I'm gonna quit. Uh,
Speaker 5: we don't.
Speaker 2: We can't win this game. We want you to play
Speaker 2: as hard as you can, as long as you can play.
Speaker 2: Gues time, did Andrew Luck.
Speaker 3: Quit or retire? As far as defying that.
Speaker 6: The reason I bring that up is if you take
Speaker 6: an Andrew Luck or someone that's decided that they had
Speaker 6: enough for whatever reason, or even mid game, they're just
Speaker 6: all of a sudden they don't want to go back
Speaker 6: into the game. Is that worse than Lance Armstrong or
Speaker 6: someone that's you know, literally just cheated as cheating the game,
Speaker 6: you don't you can't trust the outcome because I.
Speaker 2: Don't think Andrew Luck quit the game like I think
Speaker 2: he retired. If he said in the middle of a game,
Speaker 2: he's like, I'm done with this, I don't want to
Speaker 2: play anymore, I'll walk off, then you could say he quit.
Speaker 5: I the timing of this is.
Speaker 2: Horrible with Andrew Luck, and that will stay with him
Speaker 2: the rest of his life. For those Colts fans who
Speaker 2: were upset, like how could you do this? Now, I
Speaker 2: don't know if we try to understand retirement. I'm still
Speaker 2: trying to understand retirement and an athlete, when you retire,
Speaker 2: you might be.
Speaker 5: In your thirties. He can't go back. You retired. Now.
Speaker 2: Some players have come back because they realize that's it now.
Speaker 2: I got to find a real job now, I got
Speaker 2: to deal with life. And I think Andrew Luck was
Speaker 2: not getting healthier, and he probably thought I just can't
Speaker 2: go through with this now.
Speaker 5: I don't.
Speaker 2: We've had him on and he sort of talked about it.
Speaker 2: But trying to put yourself in an athlete's mind of
Speaker 2: what else are they going through? Pressures at home, you
Speaker 2: want to start a family. I mean, there's a lot
Speaker 2: of things that were at play. Probably Andrew Luck wanted to.
Speaker 3: Have a fan.
Speaker 2: He was so banged up from all those years where
Speaker 2: he had a bad offensive line, nagging injuries that weren't
Speaker 2: going away, and part of him knew that there was
Speaker 2: something else out there for him and that he maybe
Speaker 2: just came to that decision like right then, that's it.
Speaker 2: I'm going to retire on Sunday. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think there's a big difference between quitting and retiring,
Speaker 4: you know, like, who's the player on the forty nine
Speaker 4: ers that game against the Rams in the third quarter,
Speaker 4: he was like, forget it, I quit and just walked off.
Speaker 4: He just walked off into the locker room. Was like
Speaker 4: I'm not doing this anymore. You got stuck and he
Speaker 4: just quit. You know, that's way different than being like, hmmm,
Speaker 4: I don't know that I want to play anymore.
Speaker 2: You know, I think the timing of Andrew luck is
Speaker 2: what bothered people. If he would have said that in May,
Speaker 2: then he wouldn't have caught grief. But when you're saying
Speaker 2: it during the preseason, we're getting ready for the regular season.
Speaker 2: We got high hopes here, we finally have an offensive line,
Speaker 2: and then he decides to retire. But I didn't view
Speaker 2: that as quitting that. It was just poor timing.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Paul, A lot of people Colts fans were bothered
Speaker 8: by that in the moment because it was August twenty fourth.
Speaker 8: It wasn't August first or second. The preseason just getting going.
Speaker 8: They had no options at quarterback at that juncture, and
Speaker 8: you know, you don't want to say quit, but the
Speaker 8: timing twelve days before the opening kickoff was rough for
Speaker 8: some Colts fans to accept.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's it wasn't Yes, you are quitting the sport.
Speaker 2: But I don't think it's I'm quitting on this game,
Speaker 2: quitting on my team. I think when we talk about
Speaker 2: a team quitting during a game where they get blown out,
Speaker 2: then that's different. That's the quit that we're talking about.
Speaker 2: Age seven to seven to three DP show email address
Speaker 2: Depttanpatrick dot com. Fritchie just sent me something that this
Speaker 2: was dropped anonymously into the suggestion box.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just like right by the kitchen that it's like
Speaker 3: a little you haven't seen that. There's like a little thing.
Speaker 3: I don't know, put it up maybe the big german.
Speaker 3: Someone built a little suggestion.
Speaker 5: Well, why don't you go get that?
Speaker 2: And if you can't find the suggestion box, I'm I'm
Speaker 2: gonna go hit you with a pie.
Speaker 3: I got I pulled it out of the suggestion box.
Speaker 3: They're going to commercial that.
Speaker 5: Okay, So Todd goes hey.
Speaker 3: Five minute pole question from the suggestion box.
Speaker 2: Yes, fritzeat dot dot dot sucks the air out of
Speaker 2: the room. Just sucks, just plain sucks. Is bullied too much?
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Speaker 3: you have the suggestion box. Anonymous.
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, Paulie, do you want to give your answer?
Speaker 8: Just seeing that all of the above would be apt?
Speaker 5: Okay, Marvin, how would you vote on this?
Speaker 7: The all of the above?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 2: Okay, Seaton, Oh man, it is it is all of
Speaker 2: the above, but the percentages are heavily weighed in some direction.
Speaker 2: I would say bully Todd way too much.
Speaker 4: I personally, I think we've spent way too much time
Speaker 4: talking about Todd Fritz. We break down every possible angle
Speaker 4: of his personality, his toes, to his hairless legs, to
Speaker 4: his soft hands, to did he say this word right?
Speaker 4: To how did he breathe did he holy crap?
Speaker 5: Well that's that's gonna be a heavy part of that.
Speaker 4: But yes, all of the other things are definitely part
Speaker 4: of the equation.
Speaker 2: Well, Paul has an obsession with Fritzi's appearance.
Speaker 8: I don't do it on air very much. Sometimes I'll
Speaker 8: do it we're sitting around more so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you do have an obsession even when he's
Speaker 2: getting a pie to the face. You go, he had
Speaker 2: his shoes off. You go, Todd, you have nice toes,
Speaker 2: And then I'm like, really, Todd, you have no hair
Speaker 2: on your legs. Okay, we analyze Todd's body a little
Speaker 2: too much.
Speaker 3: I dook up for a pedicure like about once a
Speaker 3: month these days.
Speaker 5: I did not know how to joke all noticed. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I got the content out of him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you get a nice little massage and everything. That's great.
Speaker 3: I don't get my nails painted, but I gotta gotta donet.
Speaker 5: I don't think you've sucked the year out of the room,
Speaker 5: hope about.
Speaker 6: Don't just suck the worst choice of all of them,
Speaker 6: rather out, he just sucks in general.
Speaker 5: I just think you're good. You're good in bad content.
Speaker 5: I can live with that.
Speaker 2: That's what you are. You're There's nobody like you in
Speaker 2: our in our business. Every one of these shows is
Speaker 2: trying to find a Todd Fritz, every single one of them,
Speaker 2: and they can't.
Speaker 5: How about that.
Speaker 3: That's a lovely compliment.
Speaker 5: Thank you.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna remember yeah, but remember that.
Speaker 5: Uh Andrew and Washington leads us off. Hi Andrew, good morning.
Speaker 9: Dan and Dan. Thanks for taking my call. Yes, move Fritz,
Speaker 9: get out the way. I think that's the best UH
Speaker 9: T shirt. But some of those T shirt ideas will
Speaker 9: be better as bumper stickers, so that when people are
Speaker 9: coming up behind that left lane camper, they can read
Speaker 9: the Todd Fritz bumper sticker. I think Todd just takes
Speaker 9: his need to lead and to be in charge out
Speaker 9: when he's in the car. He's not in charge at
Speaker 9: home and He definitely isn't in charge at the show.
Speaker 9: He has opp to deal with, like we just talked
Speaker 9: about overbearing Paul, and so he takes it out when
Speaker 9: he's in that left lane and he camps. He tells
Speaker 9: everybody behind him, you're not doing it. You're not going
Speaker 9: as fast as you want unless I let you. Uh
Speaker 9: So he just takes it out there. I'm not a
Speaker 9: left lane camper. Don't agree with him, but I do
Speaker 9: think he has content good and bad, and I vote
Speaker 9: for move Fritz, get out the way, all right?
Speaker 5: Thank you.
Speaker 3: That's interesting.
Speaker 6: I didn't think of the psychologic nature of that, like
Speaker 6: that's the only place maybe that could be briefly in charge,
Speaker 6: like not letting someone go as fast as they want.
Speaker 2: Now, I said this to you yesterday. Your thought process
Speaker 2: is psychological. You don't want to be told to get
Speaker 2: out of the way. It's your way of saying, no.
Speaker 3: I'm in charge of this moment in time, and you're
Speaker 3: I'm gonna make you move.
Speaker 5: David in Ohio, Hi, David.
Speaker 10: Yeah. Then I had a T shirt idea along with
Speaker 10: the putcha how about move over a three piece? And
Speaker 10: my question is, uh, what Dan Patrick actually ryde shotgun
Speaker 10: while the top prince is behind the wheel on the
Speaker 10: intertate for a day trip just the two of you.
Speaker 10: If it meant that the Dan Patrick Show would win
Speaker 10: at Sports Ending, thank you, Oh boy.
Speaker 5: I don't know how far is the trip a day trip?
Speaker 10: Uh?
Speaker 5: I mean I've I've been in the car with you
Speaker 5: a couple of times.
Speaker 3: I'm a safe driver, I would think.
Speaker 5: I mean, you're far better than McLevin. Mclevn is a
Speaker 5: horrible driver.
Speaker 3: And a terrible sense of direction. But now that we
Speaker 3: have GPS, you know that'll tell me where to make
Speaker 3: a left and right, so I'm good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I'd have to gear up for it
Speaker 2: because I know you're going to play the music you
Speaker 2: like and sing all the songs and.
Speaker 3: It's not going to be led Zeppelin and the Beatles Nose.
Speaker 2: Mitch won't be Springsteen, won't be any of that, Dylan
Speaker 2: won't be any of that stuff.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I could do that depends on how far
Speaker 5: we're going, though.
Speaker 3: This is where a sports end me though, is on
Speaker 3: the line.
Speaker 5: I know, I don't know if I want it.
Speaker 3: That bad reality.
Speaker 2: He could do three hours. I could do three hours
Speaker 2: with you. I could, Uh, Caleb in Springfield. Hi, Caleb,
Speaker 2: what's on your mind? Hey?
Speaker 10: Dan?
Speaker 11: Uh?
Speaker 12: First of all, five, I just want to touch base
Speaker 12: on this result Wilson thing. I've noticed a lot of
Speaker 12: revisionist history about that play in the Super Bowl. I mean,
Speaker 12: the reality is, this is the nature of the sport.
Speaker 12: One play decides the game all the time. Uh missfield
Speaker 12: goals dropped two point conversion in playoff games. I mean, yeah, happened.
Speaker 12: He's not that guy anymore. He's a backup, that's who
Speaker 12: he is.
Speaker 13: Let's move on.
Speaker 12: Give the first round pick a chance.
Speaker 5: Well wait a minute, Caleb.
Speaker 2: If David Tyree doesn't hold on to that ball that
Speaker 2: Eli throws, then what happens.
Speaker 5: It goes both ways, it goes non. Eli is not
Speaker 5: in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 12: That's and that's how it is. And we have the
Speaker 12: Buffalo Bills who made it to four Super Bowls off
Speaker 12: one play, missing field goals and losing the games.
Speaker 5: I mean, it happens.
Speaker 2: So they were blown out in all of those Super
Speaker 2: Bowls except for the one field goal that you know
Speaker 2: went wide right, And a lot of those guys did
Speaker 2: make it to the Hall of Fame with the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 2: But if David Tyree doesn't hold on to the greatest
Speaker 2: catch in NFL history, then Eli's got one, and then
Speaker 2: he's not a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 5: So it's that close.
Speaker 2: But why is it that Russ doesn't get the benefit
Speaker 2: of the doubt in his situation? They got to the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl ten time Pro Bowl quarterback, far greater regular
Speaker 2: season quarterback than Eli, which you have to have a
Speaker 2: great regular season to make it to the postseason, and
Speaker 2: a far better regular season numbers than Matthew Stafford. I
Speaker 2: mean less yards, but you know he was winning. The
Speaker 2: Lions were always losing, you know, interception to touchdown ratio,
Speaker 2: he's top five all time. It's one play and Balcolm
Speaker 2: made an unbelievable move on that unbelievable play. So in
Speaker 2: one of the greatest the greatest catch in NFL history
Speaker 2: with David Tyree, and then maybe the greatest play in
Speaker 2: Super Bowl history if you look at the defensive side
Speaker 2: of this with Malcolm Butler, and we're going to keep
Speaker 2: one guy out and put one guy in because one
Speaker 2: benefited from one of those plays and one did not.
Speaker 5: Granted, Russ hasn't played well.
Speaker 2: I think we're forgetting that he did play really well,
Speaker 2: it's hard. I mean, ten time Pro Bowl quarterback when
Speaker 2: it meant something. I mean he was a Pro Bowl
Speaker 2: quarterback in ten of twelve years. That was the stretch.
Speaker 2: It's a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 2: Has he played poorly, He's played substandard. Absolutely. Do I
Speaker 2: think he would be a benefit to the Bengals. Absolutely, Yeah.
Speaker 8: Pulling and with baseball this happens, and I'm not compared them.
Speaker 8: But if you look at the first ten years of
Speaker 8: Albert Poohles, we don't not put him in the Hall
Speaker 8: of Fame because of the last six or seven. Ken
Speaker 8: Griffy Jr. Was galactically good and then became just good.
Speaker 8: And you don't take anything away from Ken Griffy Jr.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a weird argument, and I think steven A
Speaker 2: had it on first take. But I'm like, we've discussed
Speaker 2: this before. I don't know why this is a big
Speaker 2: deal now. I guess because Russ is benched. I don't
Speaker 2: know if he can play his way out because you
Speaker 2: can't take away ten seasons. But I think he's going
Speaker 2: to get another chance, and it's going to be someplace else, Yes, Martin.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think Russell Wilson feels like Jalen Hurts almost
Speaker 7: as far as man. Look how good he was, but
Speaker 7: look how great that roster was. So I think that
Speaker 7: hurts him also it should.
Speaker 2: I don't think they had great offensive weapons on the Seahawks.
Speaker 2: I think Jalen Hurts has one of the best offenses
Speaker 2: in I mean, it'll stack up with a lot on
Speaker 2: teams all time.
Speaker 3: I think they had.
Speaker 7: They had a good offense, but not like a lot
Speaker 7: of good like big time names.
Speaker 2: Did they have any position player who was better than
Speaker 2: anybody on the Eagles. Marshawn wasn't better than Saquon. The
Speaker 2: wide receivers, they're not better than that. I mean, so
Speaker 2: Russ didn't have great weapons there. They had a great defense.
Speaker 7: Allow really good weapons.
Speaker 2: Jalen has unbelievable weapons. He has the best offensive line
Speaker 2: in football, or that the second best offensive line in football.
Speaker 2: Then you've got your receivers, you got your running back,
Speaker 2: you got your tight end. He's got high, high level
Speaker 2: skilled position players. Russ didn't have that.
Speaker 7: He'd so you think he just took a mediocre offense.
Speaker 2: I think that they were probably. I mean, Tyler Lockett
Speaker 2: a not a franchise. DK Metcalf wasn't a great player,
Speaker 2: a curse, not a not a great player. Baldwin, Doug Baldwin,
Speaker 2: You know, I liked him, gritty and gutty. Marshawn was
Speaker 2: you know, had his moments where he could take over
Speaker 2: a game. But those weapons don't compare, yes, PAULI.
Speaker 8: And if you look at Russ, he kind of had
Speaker 8: two careers in Seattle. His first four years on that
Speaker 8: rookie deal as a third rounder, he was making nothing,
Speaker 8: so they spent all their money on defense. Then they
Speaker 8: had to let those guys go. Remember the second half
Speaker 8: of his career in Seattle, they made the playoffs six
Speaker 8: straight times. He had five straight Pro Bowls when it
Speaker 8: was offense. First.
Speaker 2: All right, let me take a break. We're gonna head
Speaker 2: out to the Ryder Cup. Randal Shambley, I don't know
Speaker 2: if he has a personal vendetta. It feels like Bryce
Speaker 2: in de Shambeau catches a lot of strays from Brandal Shambley.
Speaker 2: You know what, they're probably not stray as they're direct shots.
Speaker 2: So I want to I want to ask Randall about that.
Speaker 2: And of course the Ryder Cup unfolding this weekend. We'll
Speaker 2: take a break back after this.
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Speaker 2: The Writer Cup Must see TV, but so is live
Speaker 2: from the Writer Cup. You can see Brandal Shambley, rich
Speaker 2: Lerner and Company and they're going to be there through
Speaker 2: Sunday at Bethpage Black that's in Farmingdale, New York. He
Speaker 2: also does a podcast with his wife called The Favorite
Speaker 2: Shambly Randall joins us on the program. How would you
Speaker 2: describe your relationship with Bryson to Shambo?
Speaker 16: Probably somewhat complicated now because that's just the nature of
Speaker 16: what I do, in the nature of what he does.
Speaker 16: But I've enjoyed the time when I've been around Bryceon
Speaker 16: to Shambo, I've spent a little bit of time around
Speaker 16: him two or three times. We've played in golf tournament's
Speaker 16: Going Away Back, and I've set with him in a
Speaker 16: locker room once and talk golf swing for about a
Speaker 16: couple hours during a swing break. I like Bryson. I
Speaker 16: enjoy his game. I say a lot of nice things
Speaker 16: about him, But the way the world works is they
Speaker 16: pick up on one negative thing you say about him,
Speaker 16: and it becomes a headline and it becomes memes and
Speaker 16: it gets back to him, and he probably thinks that
Speaker 16: I'm highly critical of him when I've mostly been complimentary
Speaker 16: of him.
Speaker 2: Well, it did stand out earlier in the week when
Speaker 2: you were talking about him talking about doing videos for
Speaker 2: his YouTube channel and he should be talking about the
Speaker 2: Ryder Cup teams. Am I summarizing that fairly?
Speaker 16: Yes, absolutely, you know, I can't remember exactly what he
Speaker 16: was asked about, but he started talking about his YouTube channel, which, look,
Speaker 16: I get it's been a nice movement and he's enjoying
Speaker 16: doing that, but at the time it just struck my
Speaker 16: ear just a little bit odd.
Speaker 5: And then I made the comment where I.
Speaker 16: Said, I think he's probably a captain's nightmare, And maybe
Speaker 16: that was the exact praise I should have used.
Speaker 17: Maybe that was a little strong, Dan.
Speaker 16: Maybe what I should have said was he probably is
Speaker 16: problematic to pair with, or maybe he keeps a captain
Speaker 16: up late at night. Maybe nightmare was a little bit strong, Dan.
Speaker 16: I don't know if you ever said anything on the
Speaker 16: air where you're like, you know, I'd like to grab
Speaker 16: that work out. You can take it back, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 16: So yeah, I caught a fair bit of scorn for that.
Speaker 16: I was like, yeah, that probably wasn't my best phrase.
Speaker 16: But the point was is that he is problematic for
Speaker 16: a captain to pair with. Paul McGinley, who was a
Speaker 16: captain for Ryder Cup in twenty fourteen, said as much
Speaker 16: last night. He's like, he is one of those players.
Speaker 16: If you just matching players for skill, you would pair
Speaker 16: like the best possible team the US could put out
Speaker 16: tomorrow would be Scotty and Bryson to Shamba. But they
Speaker 16: will neither they together. That not skill wise for this
Speaker 16: golf course. That's the best possible team that the USA.
Speaker 5: Could put out.
Speaker 16: They will not be going out tomorrow because there's compatibility.
Speaker 16: And I'm not saying that scott he has got a
Speaker 16: problem with Bryson, or Bryson's got a problem with Scotty. I'm
Speaker 16: just saying that, you know, not everybody meshes up perfectly.
Speaker 16: You've got to consider things like personality and how amenable
Speaker 16: are they to change in equipment, Bryson has notoriously fickle
Speaker 16: about his golf equipment. We don't know if he's happy
Speaker 16: to or reluctant to switch golf balls to play a
Speaker 16: golf ball of his partner, et cetera, et cetera. So
Speaker 16: these are the kind of things, you know, there's the
Speaker 16: forces is a tough thing to work in. Now, having
Speaker 16: settled that, I'd be equally surprised if Bryson didn't play
Speaker 16: four or five matches, because he is clearly one of
Speaker 16: the top talents on this team.
Speaker 5: Who's the alpha dog on each team?
Speaker 16: The alpha is Scottie Scheffler. The alpha is ry McElroy
Speaker 16: on the European team. I wouldn't say Bryson's in beta
Speaker 16: too much to be an alpha, you know.
Speaker 5: There you go, you're putting out you know memes again.
Speaker 16: No, well, look he's he's always in beta. Oh I'm
Speaker 16: testing this, I'm testing that, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 5: And I do love that bit about him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're talking about I'm talking alpha dog where
Speaker 2: there's emotion. This is about emotion, and Scheffler doesn't have
Speaker 2: that kind of a moment like Terohatton has emotion.
Speaker 16: Well, you're talking about fire. Yes, I'm talking about the
Speaker 16: ability to inspire a team with their play. And I
Speaker 16: think Scotty Scheffler is very underrated when it comes to
Speaker 16: his intensity. I think he burns like the sun on
Speaker 16: the inside. I really do, and we've seen it flare
Speaker 16: up from time to time. But you don't win as
Speaker 16: often as he does, and you don't show an inability
Speaker 16: to be in any way placated by money without the
Speaker 16: fire inside. That's what Tiger had that was so extraordinary.
Speaker 16: You could not placate him with money. It didn't matter
Speaker 16: how much he made. He still wanted to beat you
Speaker 16: about twelve fifteen shots the very next week. And I
Speaker 16: think Scotty definitely has that, and I think Rory definitely
Speaker 16: has that. It's not to say that John Rahm doesn't
Speaker 16: also look John ram is an alpha as well. I mean,
Speaker 16: this is a team of type A personalities all the
Speaker 16: way down the board, both sides. But when you're looking
Speaker 16: at the top of the top, to me, it's Rory
Speaker 16: and it's Scottie.
Speaker 2: We talk about how the European team camaraderie galvanized. They
Speaker 2: understand you know, friendship, travel together, play together. Is it's
Speaker 2: still that because you know, you do have the live
Speaker 2: tour involved in this, and maybe it's not as close
Speaker 2: knit as it has been in the past, which was
Speaker 2: a big benefit for them.
Speaker 16: Yeah, I think it's a little misleading to assume that
Speaker 16: the European teams have always just been, you know, chummy.
Speaker 16: There's always been a little bit of friction within the
Speaker 16: European team room, and I think they've used that friction
Speaker 16: to their advantage. But there's also been tremendous buying. You know,
Speaker 16: You've got players over there that just say, you know,
Speaker 16: I'll play wherever you want me to play, and I
Speaker 16: don't I know that you get that kind of buy in.
Speaker 5: From the US side.
Speaker 16: I'm gleaning what I can glean from the interviews I've
Speaker 16: heard and the stories I've heard, and you get tremendous
Speaker 16: buy in on the European side. And one of the
Speaker 16: things I say, and I think that underscore, is just
Speaker 16: how much more buying you get on the European side
Speaker 16: then you get on the US side, is that Sergio
Speaker 16: Garcia had to pay a couple of million dollars in
Speaker 16: fines just to even be eligible for this team, and
Speaker 16: he willfully paid a couple million dollars just to be eligible.
Speaker 16: Now he's not on the team, but the United States
Speaker 16: team has demanded to be paid to play. Now, look,
Speaker 16: I mean, we can debate whether or not that's the
Speaker 16: right thing to do, but you have one side where
Speaker 16: players would pay to be on the team and the
Speaker 16: other side where players want to get paid just to
Speaker 16: be a part of the team.
Speaker 2: Talking to Branda Shambli Golf Channel on their lead studio
Speaker 2: analysts live from the Ryder Cup all this weekend, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you bring up the money part of it. How's this
Speaker 2: story get out? Because the first thing I thought is
Speaker 2: is somebody from the European team leaking this out to
Speaker 2: make the American team look bad.
Speaker 16: Well, you know, there's a lot of people involved in
Speaker 16: this decision. I mean, the whole PGA of America would
Speaker 16: have had to talk about this, So that's an innumerable
Speaker 16: number of people. And then you're talking about players and
Speaker 16: wives and caddies and everybody on the European side because
Speaker 16: they're invested in this as well. And you know, this
Speaker 16: is a profitable property, almost exclusively because Europe has risen
Speaker 16: up and more times than not beaten the American side.
Speaker 16: When the American side has been the favorite has that's
Speaker 16: the larger part of the reason why this event is
Speaker 16: so compelling. And so Europe doesn't want any money. They've
Speaker 16: said as much. In the United States since nineteen ninety
Speaker 16: nine has been talking about and wanting to get paid.
Speaker 16: And it came to a head obviously in Rome when
Speaker 16: allegedly Patrick Cantley wouldn't wear the hat because he wasn't
Speaker 16: getting paid, which was reported by a great many people.
Speaker 16: And then I think, written by Michael Bamberger, should they
Speaker 16: get paid? I don't think so. I don't think it's
Speaker 16: asking too much. Well, first of all, they are getting paid.
Speaker 16: So the PGA Tour gets about thirty million dollars a
Speaker 16: year that every year they played the Rider Cup, about
Speaker 16: thirty million dollars a year that they take and put
Speaker 16: into the pension funt of the PGA Tour players, which
Speaker 16: grows tax free for decade for decade for decade for decades.
Speaker 16: So when you talk about getting paid, they're getting paid
Speaker 16: large sums of money. It's just deferred until probably when
Speaker 16: they they'll never need it, but you know later on
Speaker 16: in their life. And most every single player, well now
Speaker 16: every player on the team would have bonuses probably seven
Speaker 16: figure bonuses in their contracts should they make the Ryder
Speaker 16: Cup team. So they are getting paid, but directly paid
Speaker 16: from the PGA of America. I think, look, it's not
Speaker 16: asking too much of these guys to one week a
Speaker 16: year to do something for the honor of playing for
Speaker 16: their country. People would argue, well, the PGA of America
Speaker 16: make money. The PGA of America has thirty thousand plus members,
Speaker 16: in numerable initiatives that they're all trying to fund. All
Speaker 16: of these entities have run these big events, Augusta National,
Speaker 16: the USGA. They all make money from the events. They
Speaker 16: make a profit, but then they take that money and
Speaker 16: do a lot of great things with it. It's like
Speaker 16: the PGA of America is not buying ferraris and private
Speaker 16: jets for their executives. They're taking the money and investing
Speaker 16: in junior programs. Every single player on this US team
Speaker 16: was touched by a PGA you know, a PGA professional
Speaker 16: at some point showed them how to put their hands
Speaker 16: on the club and gave them some reason to pursue
Speaker 16: this game.
Speaker 5: More app to have another act, Tiger or Phil.
Speaker 16: Good question, I would say, another act. You mean from
Speaker 16: a competitive standpoint, on a big stage. I would probably say, Phil,
Speaker 16: you know, unfortunately Tiger busting his achilles again.
Speaker 5: I you know, I don't know how you come back.
Speaker 16: From that at fifty years of age, unless unless Tiger
Speaker 16: decides to write a golf cart on the Champs Tour.
Speaker 16: And I don't know how that would play out in
Speaker 16: the US Senior Open, because Tiger has won three US Juniors,
Speaker 16: three US Amateurs, and three US Opened. If he were
Speaker 16: to go play, and I guarantee you it's a goal
Speaker 16: of his to go play the US Senior Open and
Speaker 16: win it, but I don't know that he could write
Speaker 16: a cart in the US Senior Open, which you can
Speaker 16: on the Champs Tour. And I don't know even if
Speaker 16: they would let him write a card, if he would
Speaker 16: do it, because he has such a strong sense of
Speaker 16: fairness about him.
Speaker 5: What about Phil?
Speaker 16: Look, Phil could pop up at the Masters. You know
Speaker 16: Jack Nicholas finished fifth there when he was fifty eight
Speaker 16: years of age. Phil still bombs it, and Phil still energetic,
Speaker 16: still youthful in his feverish pursuit of this game of golf.
Speaker 16: So yeah, and he won a major at dangian Are
Speaker 16: fifty two years of ag So it wouldn't surprise me.
Speaker 16: I mean, Phil still acts like a kid again with
Speaker 16: a golf club in his hand.
Speaker 2: We always talk about decorum in a golf course and
Speaker 2: being quiet and you know, being respectful, but that's out
Speaker 2: the window this weekend. Can a crowd gallery go too
Speaker 2: far at the Ryder Cup?
Speaker 16: They could absolutely go too far if they start screaming
Speaker 16: or yelling in guys backswings, you know, let them play.
Speaker 16: I think you know there'll be some people kicked out
Speaker 16: this week for sure. You know, if they start screaming
Speaker 16: and players backswings, if they get profane, you know and personal,
Speaker 16: you know the whole, you know, there'll be some good
Speaker 16: jeery out there. And I know the European side has
Speaker 16: prepared for this, going back to January when they were
Speaker 16: playing in a competition where it was Great Britain and
Speaker 16: Ireland against Continental Europe. These they do these as sort
Speaker 16: of previews for Ryder Cups. I think Luke Donald had
Speaker 16: a blaring system of you know, USA, USA, USA, and
Speaker 16: he hired an American comedian to heckle them while they
Speaker 16: were hitting shots. So they've prepared for a hostile environment.
Speaker 16: I'm just not sure anybody could properly prepare for as
Speaker 16: hostile environment as I think they're going to get this week.
Speaker 16: If you were watching the opening ceremonies yesterday, the New
Speaker 16: York Governor, I mean, my goodness, I mean the boos
Speaker 16: were a fevered pitch. Got me looking for the decimal
Speaker 16: level record for a stadium, which by the way is
Speaker 16: Arrowhead Stadium. It may reach that level this week.
Speaker 2: It's just more about the mental aspect of the physical aspect.
Speaker 16: I think that's a great thing about the Ryder Cup
Speaker 16: is it really does involve everything group dynamics at the
Speaker 16: highest level. How can you get these guys to come
Speaker 16: together as a team and buy into the decisions the captain,
Speaker 16: which you know and I think more than a few
Speaker 16: instances are going to go against the predictions of the players.
Speaker 16: And then, of course there is the mental aspect of it,
Speaker 16: because it's monoamano out there, and there'll be some gamesmanship.
Speaker 16: They're already as in some gamesmanship. Luke Donald, I think
Speaker 16: had a little gamesmanship yesterday in his opening remarks the
Speaker 16: European team out on the range. I don't know if
Speaker 16: it was yesterday or today, but instead of going to
Speaker 16: one end where the US side could uniformly practice. At
Speaker 16: another end, the European team went right in the middle,
Speaker 16: so the US team had to split up and go
Speaker 16: to either side of them.
Speaker 17: I mean, that is absolutely gamesmanship by the European team,
Speaker 17: and so there will be little bitty gamesmanship moments out there,
Speaker 17: so it certainly becomes a mental test.
Speaker 5: Good to talk to you. Thank you by the.
Speaker 16: Way, Rich Learner right at you with a cameo right here.
Speaker 16: We're in the trailer here, so say I read.
Speaker 3: Take care.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw Rich. He kept like peeking over Brandle's shoulder. Rich,
Speaker 2: of course, is the host of Live from the Ryder Cup.
Speaker 2: You'll be able to watch that Friday through Sunday at
Speaker 2: Bethpage Black in Farmingdale, New York. I haven't played that
Speaker 2: course before. I've been invited to play, but it's kind
Speaker 2: of like Pineher's Number two. I did not enjoy Pinehur's
Speaker 2: number two. I wasn't a good enough golfer and it
Speaker 2: was it was just a slog and the greens were
Speaker 2: so difficult at Pineher's Number two. I mean, it's one
Speaker 2: of the great courses in the world, but not every
Speaker 2: course is meant to be played. Where you go, man,
Speaker 2: I can't wait to go out and get beat up.
Speaker 2: And that's what happened at Pineher's and Beth Page. They
Speaker 2: even say death Page Black. It's basically, if you're this
Speaker 2: kind of handicap, don't even try to do this.
Speaker 5: Saint Andrews is like that.
Speaker 2: When you get the first t I think you've got
Speaker 2: to be a better than a fifteen handicap or they
Speaker 2: want you to be so that you know they you know,
Speaker 2: you're going through a lot of people who are going
Speaker 2: to play a lot of rounds. Therefore you've got to
Speaker 2: be a certain level so you're not hitting you know,
Speaker 2: two balls off each te and you're losing a ball
Speaker 2: and all that. But there's certain courses that they go
Speaker 2: now you kind of it's like when you ride a
Speaker 2: ride at disney Land that you have to be this hype.
Speaker 2: Some of these golf courses want you to be at
Speaker 2: a certain level.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Pauling is the island hole TPC Sawgrass the seventeenth,
Speaker 8: the one they always show on TV. Yea when you
Speaker 8: see that on TV as even a bad golfer. But
Speaker 8: if you're a decent weekend golfer, I can't imagine the
Speaker 8: intimidation factor of trying to play that.
Speaker 2: Well, it's not that intimidating when no one's there, because
Speaker 2: I played it the first time, I put it in
Speaker 2: the water. The second time I put it on the green.
Speaker 2: It's like the twelfth at Augusta. When nobody's there, it's okay,
Speaker 2: It's just a golf you know. The twelfth hauled Augusta
Speaker 2: is one forty eight forty nine and first time I
Speaker 2: put it on, made a birdie putt. Second time put
Speaker 2: it in the creek. But nobody's there. Augusta is not
Speaker 2: intimidating when nobody's there. I mean, it's still a great
Speaker 2: golf course and challenging. But there's certain places where you know,
Speaker 2: you got everybody packed around sixteen.
Speaker 5: And you're like, oh my god, I got to get
Speaker 5: it over the water.
Speaker 2: Or twelve where everybody's behind you when nobody's there. Okay,
Speaker 2: But even seventeen at TPC, I mean, it feels like
Speaker 2: the green starts to shrink the longer you're standing over
Speaker 2: your ball. On seventeen, it's like, damn, did he get smaller?
Speaker 2: Because it feels that way. All right, let me take
Speaker 2: a break.
Speaker 5: Well, we'll get some more phone calls coming up back
Speaker 5: after this.
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Speaker 2: Think Brandal Shambley looked a little surprised when I brought
Speaker 2: up some of the things he said about Bryson to Shambo.
Speaker 2: You called him a captain's nightmare. You kind of called
Speaker 2: him out for basically being selfish about his own YouTube
Speaker 2: channel and not thinking about Ryder Cup.
Speaker 5: And then he goes, yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Guess I have still driving that trusty old ride. Keep
Speaker 2: it looking sharp with Mako from dense to faded paint.
Speaker 2: They've got you covered. Free estimate today, Ohn, better get Maco,
Speaker 2: Zach and Knoxville.
Speaker 5: Welcome back, Zach. What's on your mind?
Speaker 18: ADP, Thanks for taking my call. I know you're answering
Speaker 18: all the tough issues these days. So my question to
Speaker 18: you is at what age do you refer to your
Speaker 18: child in years instead of months? And just for the record,
Speaker 18: I am four hundred and fifty three months old.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, thank you, Zach. I think we talked
Speaker 2: about this. Did we get up to two and a
Speaker 2: half years? Was that that the number Paul.
Speaker 8: I think we stopped at eighteen months, eighteen and then
Speaker 8: you go to two years, three years, four years, if
Speaker 8: I remember that.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I think we discussed that a while ago.
Speaker 2: Heather in Denver, Hi, Heather.
Speaker 11: Hi, boys, How are you great? Taking my call? Yeah,
Speaker 11: it's good to hear your voice.
Speaker 5: Well, thank you, Heather.
Speaker 11: Soh uh, I'm that Chicago fan that's gonna say what
Speaker 11: about my bears. I'm already already seeing that pessimistic fan.
Speaker 11: Why two and one, we're in a basement.
Speaker 5: Well, it could be worse.
Speaker 11: It could be, It could be then, it could be,
Speaker 11: but I'm ready for it to be worse.
Speaker 5: Well, I don't.
Speaker 2: There should be optimism in Chicago. The problem is the
Speaker 2: expectation level was so high, and I didn't think it
Speaker 2: was achievable. You're playing in one of the toughest divisions,
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, we're going, hey, Caleb's
Speaker 2: gonna throw forty touchdown passes or you know, we're gonna
Speaker 2: win the division. Let's take some steps here, gonna take
Speaker 2: a little while between coach and quarterback and getting everything
Speaker 2: kind of synced up.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Paul, but Heather's right, it could be worse for
Speaker 8: the Bears because they're not two and one, they're one
Speaker 8: and two. So it actually technically is worse than what
Speaker 8: she was discussing.
Speaker 2: It is a lot worse than she thought. Yes, Heather,
Speaker 2: I hate to break the news to you, but your
Speaker 2: Bears are one in two.
Speaker 5: You just like that.
Speaker 8: It got worse during a phone call. Oh games today?
Speaker 5: Oh sorry, Heather? Thank you?
Speaker 2: Alan, good point, Paul Allen and Charleston. Hey, Alan, Alan,
Speaker 2: thank you.
Speaker 3: Alan.
Speaker 5: Quick football quiz, Paul.
Speaker 8: I have a quick football quiz? Marvin? Do we have
Speaker 8: custom music for that?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 8: Who is the NFL career leader in passing to touchdown?
Speaker 8: A touchdown to interception ratio? It means lots of touchdowns,
Speaker 8: few interceptions. Give you a couple of hints. Almost everybody
Speaker 8: on this list is from two thousand on. They have
Speaker 8: to have minimum of fifteen hundred career passing attempts.
Speaker 5: So Aaron Rodgers is number one.
Speaker 8: Aaron Rodge number one. Everyone knows that he's four point
Speaker 8: twenty nine. He's a point ahead of everyone else. He's
Speaker 8: way way better. Can anyone name two, three, four and five?
Speaker 5: Russell Wilson Junior, the third.
Speaker 8: Russell Wilson's fifth all time touchdown to interception. A month
Speaker 8: ago he was fourth. He's dropped off litte. There's one
Speaker 8: that I don't think people would pull quickly.
Speaker 5: And how many minimum games are attempts?
Speaker 8: Fifteen hundred career pass attempts. All the guys are active,
Speaker 8: Jared Goff Jared Goff's tenth.
Speaker 2: All the guys are active, all active.
Speaker 8: The only non active guys in the top ten Tom
Speaker 8: Brady and eleven. You never guess Colin Kaepernick, Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 8: Mahomes is three match Justin Herbert, Justin Herbert's fourth, number
Speaker 8: two all time career touchdown to interception ratio.
Speaker 5: Joe Burrow Burrow sixth.
Speaker 8: This guy, they questioned his passing coming out of top Marcks.
Speaker 8: Mark Jackson's correct three point five seven one and seventy
Speaker 8: five career touchdowns only forty nine career picks is a
Speaker 8: great passer, according to this.
Speaker 2: Kelly in Kansas, Hi, Kelly, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 13: Good mornin, Dan, How are you guys this morning?
Speaker 5: Great? Kel good?
Speaker 13: Hey, you know, longtime, not first time? Five to five one.
Speaker 13: I have a bone to pick with you this morning.
Speaker 13: Earlier this week you were talking about your wife's book club. Yeah,
Speaker 13: and you guys got to talking about the cliff notes.
Speaker 13: My husband now wants to cliff note version of all
Speaker 13: of my stories.
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm not laughing, I'm not laughing.
Speaker 2: Let's use name anyway, Robert, Robert shamed of you.
Speaker 5: You're better than that.
Speaker 2: I call him Rob because he's robbing the moment from
Speaker 2: you of having a great conversation with his wife.
Speaker 6: What todd People that are speaking long winded fashion can
Speaker 6: be annoy.
Speaker 5: I would love to have the cliff cliffs notes.
Speaker 2: Version of he yeah, you know what, kel just keep talking,
Speaker 2: you know, just keep talking, don't worry about it.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Can you imagine during a long winded story giving your
Speaker 8: spouse they wrap it up sign that may not go well.
Speaker 2: Well, I have said, okay, I've said this before, land
Speaker 2: the plane said it.
Speaker 5: Yes I have.
Speaker 8: Yeah, you got to be entrenched, well thirty eight years, Yes,
Speaker 8: you have at least thirty.
Speaker 5: Like hon, you gotta land the plane.
Speaker 3: You have a heart break, a heart break coming up.
Speaker 2: Yes, I got you know, my life. I kind of
Speaker 2: treat it like it's a radio show. I got han
Speaker 2: I got to go to break here, I gotta I
Speaker 2: gotta come back. You know, I got I gotta tease
Speaker 2: the guests coming up.
Speaker 7: But Marvin, did your wife ever tell you a story
Speaker 7: about how she's angry with somebody and then you got
Speaker 7: to let her know that it's her fault.
Speaker 2: Away, No, because that's usually what my wife does to me.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you again about ESPN. No, No, you're
Speaker 2: part of the problem here. The words not everyone gets
Speaker 2: your sense of grue. That is true.