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Speaker 2: that has to do with a good portion of yesterday's show.

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Speaker 2: that has to do with Fritzy hogging the left lane

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Speaker 3: It's not hogging by it's camping.

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Speaker 2: the official trading cards of this program. Poll question Seaton

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Speaker 2: will clean up our one and then dive into hour two.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, working on that poll questions for the for the

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Speaker 4: T shirts right now. I'm just getting the graphics ready.

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Speaker 4: Paulie sent this one over. The worst word in sports

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Speaker 4: collapse quit, cheat, other? Oh, collapse, quit cheat other.

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Speaker 5: I think one of them is.

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Speaker 2: All right, far the worst. Let's go around the room,

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Speaker 2: Todd collapse cheat.

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Speaker 6: Cheats stands out for me among the other ones. If

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Speaker 6: you're a cheater, that's a lot worse than all of

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Speaker 6: a sudden losing a bunch of games or deciding you

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Speaker 6: had enough playing, or it's got to be cheat to make.

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Speaker 2: Seaton for me, quit quit is by far the worst word. Collapse,

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Speaker 2: quit cheat, Marvin.

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Speaker 7: I have other loyalty, Okay, that's the worst word in sports.

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Speaker 7: It's a business. Oh you're not loyal please?

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Speaker 5: Okay?

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Speaker 8: Paul, it's quit because if you're cheating, you can still

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Speaker 8: make the case that you're trying to help your team win,

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Speaker 8: and the fans will weirdly respect that quitter. Remember what

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think quit is the word because we're all

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Speaker 2: competitors and you get to that level and when you

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Speaker 2: hear a analyst something and I'm always really careful with that.

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Speaker 2: I didn't play the game at a high level. But

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Speaker 2: when you say somebody quit, I mean that is that's

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Speaker 2: a label that's really hard to shed. And if you're

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Speaker 2: gonna say that, you better be sure that you're calling

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Speaker 2: a team quitters or an individual a quitter. Now, sometimes

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Speaker 2: you'll find it in boxing where somebody just quits, you know,

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Speaker 2: Roberto Duran, like you just quit, and that stays with

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Speaker 2: you as well. We just can't conceive that somebody's.

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Speaker 5: Gonna go H. I don't know, I'm gonna quit. Uh,

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Speaker 5: we don't.

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Speaker 2: We can't win this game. We want you to play

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Speaker 2: as hard as you can, as long as you can play.

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Speaker 2: Gues time, did Andrew Luck.

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Speaker 3: Quit or retire? As far as defying that.

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Speaker 6: The reason I bring that up is if you take

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Speaker 6: someone that's you know, literally just cheated as cheating the game,

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Speaker 6: you don't you can't trust the outcome because I.

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Speaker 2: Don't think Andrew Luck quit the game like I think

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Speaker 2: he retired. If he said in the middle of a game,

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Speaker 5: I the timing of this is.

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Speaker 2: Horrible with Andrew Luck, and that will stay with him

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Speaker 2: don't know if we try to understand retirement. I'm still

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Speaker 2: trying to understand retirement and an athlete, when you retire,

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Speaker 5: In your thirties. He can't go back. You retired. Now.

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Speaker 2: Some players have come back because they realize that's it now.

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Speaker 2: I got to find a real job now, I got

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Speaker 5: I don't.

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Speaker 2: We've had him on and he sort of talked about it.

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Speaker 2: But trying to put yourself in an athlete's mind of

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Speaker 2: what else are they going through? Pressures at home, you

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Speaker 2: want to start a family. I mean, there's a lot

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Speaker 3: Have a fan.

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Speaker 2: He was so banged up from all those years where

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Speaker 2: just came to that decision like right then, that's it.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to retire on Sunday. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I think there's a big difference between quitting and retiring,

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Speaker 4: you know, like, who's the player on the forty nine

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Speaker 4: ers that game against the Rams in the third quarter,

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Speaker 4: he was like, forget it, I quit and just walked off.

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Speaker 4: He just walked off into the locker room. Was like

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Speaker 4: I'm not doing this anymore. You got stuck and he

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Speaker 4: just quit. You know, that's way different than being like, hmmm,

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Speaker 4: I don't know that I want to play anymore.

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Speaker 2: You know, I think the timing of Andrew luck is

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Speaker 2: what bothered people. If he would have said that in May,

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Speaker 2: then he wouldn't have caught grief. But when you're saying

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Speaker 2: it during the preseason, we're getting ready for the regular season.

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Speaker 2: We got high hopes here, we finally have an offensive line,

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Speaker 2: and then he decides to retire. But I didn't view

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Speaker 2: that as quitting that. It was just poor timing.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Paul, A lot of people Colts fans were bothered

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Speaker 8: by that in the moment because it was August twenty fourth.

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Speaker 8: It wasn't August first or second. The preseason just getting going.

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Speaker 8: They had no options at quarterback at that juncture, and

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Speaker 8: you know, you don't want to say quit, but the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's it wasn't Yes, you are quitting the sport.

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Speaker 2: But I don't think it's I'm quitting on this game,

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Speaker 2: then that's different. That's the quit that we're talking about.

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Speaker 2: Age seven to seven to three DP show email address

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Speaker 2: Depttanpatrick dot com. Fritchie just sent me something that this

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Speaker 2: was dropped anonymously into the suggestion box.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just like right by the kitchen that it's like

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Speaker 3: a little you haven't seen that. There's like a little thing.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, put it up maybe the big german.

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Speaker 3: Someone built a little suggestion.

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Speaker 5: Well, why don't you go get that?

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Speaker 2: And if you can't find the suggestion box, I'm I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna go hit you with a pie.

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Speaker 3: I got I pulled it out of the suggestion box.

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Speaker 3: They're going to commercial that.

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Speaker 5: Okay, So Todd goes hey.

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Speaker 3: Five minute pole question from the suggestion box.

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Speaker 2: Yes, fritzeat dot dot dot sucks the air out of

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Speaker 2: the room. Just sucks, just plain sucks. Is bullied too much?

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Speaker 2: Hiss content good and.

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Speaker 3: Bad from the suggestion box Anonymous, None of the roade it.

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Speaker 3: I'm just right. It's an anonymou suggestion box. That's why

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Speaker 3: you have the suggestion box. Anonymous.

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Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, Paulie, do you want to give your answer?

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Speaker 8: Just seeing that all of the above would be apt?

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Speaker 5: Okay, Marvin, how would you vote on this?

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Speaker 7: The all of the above?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Okay, Seaton, Oh man, it is it is all of

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Speaker 2: the above, but the percentages are heavily weighed in some direction.

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Speaker 2: I would say bully Todd way too much.

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Speaker 4: I personally, I think we've spent way too much time

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Speaker 4: talking about Todd Fritz. We break down every possible angle

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Speaker 4: of his personality, his toes, to his hairless legs, to

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Speaker 4: his soft hands, to did he say this word right?

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Speaker 4: To how did he breathe did he holy crap?

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Speaker 5: Well that's that's gonna be a heavy part of that.

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Speaker 4: But yes, all of the other things are definitely part

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Speaker 2: Well, Paul has an obsession with Fritzi's appearance.

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Speaker 8: I don't do it on air very much. Sometimes I'll

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Speaker 8: do it we're sitting around more so.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you do have an obsession even when he's

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Speaker 2: getting a pie to the face. You go, he had

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Speaker 2: his shoes off. You go, Todd, you have nice toes,

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Speaker 2: And then I'm like, really, Todd, you have no hair

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Speaker 2: too much.

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Speaker 3: I dook up for a pedicure like about once a

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Speaker 5: I did not know how to joke all noticed. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I got the content out of him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you get a nice little massage and everything. That's great.

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Speaker 3: I don't get my nails painted, but I gotta gotta donet.

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Speaker 5: I don't think you've sucked the year out of the room,

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Speaker 6: Don't just suck the worst choice of all of them,

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Speaker 6: rather out, he just sucks in general.

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Speaker 5: I just think you're good. You're good in bad content.

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Speaker 5: I can live with that.

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Speaker 2: That's what you are. You're There's nobody like you in

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Speaker 2: our in our business. Every one of these shows is

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Speaker 2: trying to find a Todd Fritz, every single one of them,

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Speaker 2: and they can't.

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Speaker 5: How about that.

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Speaker 3: That's a lovely compliment.

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Speaker 5: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna remember yeah, but remember that.

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Speaker 5: Uh Andrew and Washington leads us off. Hi Andrew, good morning.

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Speaker 9: Dan and Dan. Thanks for taking my call. Yes, move Fritz,

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Speaker 9: get out the way. I think that's the best UH

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Speaker 9: T shirt. But some of those T shirt ideas will

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Speaker 9: be better as bumper stickers, so that when people are

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Speaker 9: coming up behind that left lane camper, they can read

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Speaker 9: the Todd Fritz bumper sticker. I think Todd just takes

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Speaker 9: his need to lead and to be in charge out

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Speaker 9: when he's in the car. He's not in charge at

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Speaker 9: home and He definitely isn't in charge at the show.

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Speaker 9: He has opp to deal with, like we just talked

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Speaker 9: about overbearing Paul, and so he takes it out when

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Speaker 9: he's in that left lane and he camps. He tells

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Speaker 9: everybody behind him, you're not doing it. You're not going

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Speaker 9: as fast as you want unless I let you. Uh

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Speaker 9: So he just takes it out there. I'm not a

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Speaker 9: left lane camper. Don't agree with him, but I do

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Speaker 9: think he has content good and bad, and I vote

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Speaker 9: for move Fritz, get out the way, all right?

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Speaker 5: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: That's interesting.

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Speaker 6: I didn't think of the psychologic nature of that, like

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Speaker 6: that's the only place maybe that could be briefly in charge,

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Speaker 12: First of all, five, I just want to touch base

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Speaker 12: Give the first round pick a chance.

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Speaker 5: Well wait a minute, Caleb.

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Speaker 2: If David Tyree doesn't hold on to that ball that

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Speaker 5: I mean, it happens.

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Speaker 2: But if David Tyree doesn't hold on to the greatest

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Speaker 5: So it's that close.

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Speaker 2: But why is it that Russ doesn't get the benefit

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Speaker 2: he's top five all time. It's one play and Balcolm

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Speaker 5: Granted, Russ hasn't played well.

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Speaker 2: I think we're forgetting that he did play really well,

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Speaker 2: it's hard. I mean, ten time Pro Bowl quarterback when

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Speaker 2: It's a Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 2: Has he played poorly, He's played substandard. Absolutely. Do I

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Speaker 8: Pulling and with baseball this happens, and I'm not compared them.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think Russell Wilson feels like Jalen Hurts almost

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Speaker 2: I don't think they had great offensive weapons on the Seahawks.

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Speaker 2: Did they have any position player who was better than

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Speaker 2: Jalen has unbelievable weapons. He has the best offensive line

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Speaker 2: Then you've got your receivers, you got your running back,

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Speaker 2: I think that they were probably. I mean, Tyler Lockett

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Speaker 8: And if you look at Russ, he kind of had

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Speaker 2: All right, let me take a break. We're gonna head

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Speaker 2: out to the Ryder Cup. Randal Shambley, I don't know

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Speaker 17: Maybe that was a little strong, Dan.

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Speaker 16: I don't know if you ever said anything on the

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Speaker 16: air where you're like, you know, I'd like to grab

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Speaker 16: that work out. You can take it back, you know. Yeah,

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Speaker 16: So yeah, I caught a fair bit of scorn for that.

443
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Speaker 16: I was like, yeah, that probably wasn't my best phrase.

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Speaker 16: But the point was is that he is problematic for

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Speaker 16: a captain to pair with. Paul McGinley, who was a

446
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Speaker 16: captain for Ryder Cup in twenty fourteen, said as much

447
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Speaker 16: last night. He's like, he is one of those players.

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Speaker 16: If you just matching players for skill, you would pair

449
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Speaker 16: like the best possible team the US could put out

450
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Speaker 16: tomorrow would be Scotty and Bryson to Shamba. But they

451
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Speaker 16: will neither they together. That not skill wise for this

452
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Speaker 16: golf course. That's the best possible team that the USA.

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Speaker 5: Could put out.

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Speaker 16: They will not be going out tomorrow because there's compatibility.

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Speaker 16: And I'm not saying that scott he has got a

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Speaker 16: problem with Bryson, or Bryson's got a problem with Scotty. I'm

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Speaker 16: just saying that, you know, not everybody meshes up perfectly.

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Speaker 16: You've got to consider things like personality and how amenable

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Speaker 16: are they to change in equipment, Bryson has notoriously fickle

460
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Speaker 16: about his golf equipment. We don't know if he's happy

461
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Speaker 16: to or reluctant to switch golf balls to play a

462
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Speaker 16: golf ball of his partner, et cetera, et cetera. So

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Speaker 16: these are the kind of things, you know, there's the

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Speaker 16: forces is a tough thing to work in. Now, having

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Speaker 16: settled that, I'd be equally surprised if Bryson didn't play

466
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Speaker 16: four or five matches, because he is clearly one of

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Speaker 16: the top talents on this team.

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Speaker 5: Who's the alpha dog on each team?

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Speaker 16: The alpha is Scottie Scheffler. The alpha is ry McElroy

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Speaker 16: on the European team. I wouldn't say Bryson's in beta

471
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Speaker 16: too much to be an alpha, you know.

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Speaker 5: There you go, you're putting out you know memes again.

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Speaker 16: No, well, look he's he's always in beta. Oh I'm

474
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Speaker 16: testing this, I'm testing that, et cetera, et cetera.

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Speaker 5: And I do love that bit about him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're talking about I'm talking alpha dog where

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Speaker 2: there's emotion. This is about emotion, and Scheffler doesn't have

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Speaker 2: that kind of a moment like Terohatton has emotion.

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Speaker 16: Well, you're talking about fire. Yes, I'm talking about the

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Speaker 16: ability to inspire a team with their play. And I

481
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Speaker 16: think Scotty Scheffler is very underrated when it comes to

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Speaker 16: his intensity. I think he burns like the sun on

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Speaker 16: the inside. I really do, and we've seen it flare

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Speaker 16: up from time to time. But you don't win as

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Speaker 16: often as he does, and you don't show an inability

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Speaker 16: to be in any way placated by money without the

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Speaker 16: fire inside. That's what Tiger had that was so extraordinary.

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Speaker 16: You could not placate him with money. It didn't matter

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Speaker 16: how much he made. He still wanted to beat you

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Speaker 16: about twelve fifteen shots the very next week. And I

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Speaker 16: think Scotty definitely has that, and I think Rory definitely

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Speaker 16: has that. It's not to say that John Rahm doesn't

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Speaker 16: also look John ram is an alpha as well. I mean,

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Speaker 16: this is a team of type A personalities all the

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Speaker 16: way down the board, both sides. But when you're looking

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Speaker 16: at the top of the top, to me, it's Rory

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Speaker 16: and it's Scottie.

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Speaker 2: We talk about how the European team camaraderie galvanized. They

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Speaker 2: understand you know, friendship, travel together, play together. Is it's

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Speaker 2: still that because you know, you do have the live

501
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Speaker 2: tour involved in this, and maybe it's not as close

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Speaker 2: knit as it has been in the past, which was

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Speaker 2: a big benefit for them.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I think it's a little misleading to assume that

505
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Speaker 16: the European teams have always just been, you know, chummy.

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Speaker 16: There's always been a little bit of friction within the

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Speaker 16: European team room, and I think they've used that friction

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Speaker 16: to their advantage. But there's also been tremendous buying. You know,

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Speaker 16: You've got players over there that just say, you know,

510
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Speaker 16: I'll play wherever you want me to play, and I

511
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Speaker 16: don't I know that you get that kind of buy in.

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Speaker 5: From the US side.

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Speaker 16: I'm gleaning what I can glean from the interviews I've

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Speaker 16: heard and the stories I've heard, and you get tremendous

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Speaker 16: buy in on the European side. And one of the

516
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Speaker 16: things I say, and I think that underscore, is just

517
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Speaker 16: how much more buying you get on the European side

518
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Speaker 16: then you get on the US side, is that Sergio

519
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Speaker 16: Garcia had to pay a couple of million dollars in

520
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Speaker 16: fines just to even be eligible for this team, and

521
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Speaker 16: he willfully paid a couple million dollars just to be eligible.

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Speaker 16: Now he's not on the team, but the United States

523
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Speaker 16: team has demanded to be paid to play. Now, look,

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Speaker 16: I mean, we can debate whether or not that's the

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Speaker 16: right thing to do, but you have one side where

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Speaker 16: players would pay to be on the team and the

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Speaker 16: other side where players want to get paid just to

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Speaker 16: be a part of the team.

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Speaker 2: Talking to Branda Shambli Golf Channel on their lead studio

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Speaker 2: analysts live from the Ryder Cup all this weekend, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you bring up the money part of it. How's this

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Speaker 2: story get out? Because the first thing I thought is

533
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Speaker 2: is somebody from the European team leaking this out to

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Speaker 2: make the American team look bad.

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Speaker 16: Well, you know, there's a lot of people involved in

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Speaker 16: this decision. I mean, the whole PGA of America would

537
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Speaker 16: have had to talk about this, So that's an innumerable

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Speaker 16: number of people. And then you're talking about players and

539
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Speaker 16: wives and caddies and everybody on the European side because

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Speaker 16: they're invested in this as well. And you know, this

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Speaker 16: is a profitable property, almost exclusively because Europe has risen

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Speaker 16: up and more times than not beaten the American side.

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Speaker 16: When the American side has been the favorite has that's

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Speaker 16: the larger part of the reason why this event is

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Speaker 16: so compelling. And so Europe doesn't want any money. They've

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Speaker 16: said as much. In the United States since nineteen ninety

547
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Speaker 16: nine has been talking about and wanting to get paid.

548
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Speaker 16: And it came to a head obviously in Rome when

549
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Speaker 16: allegedly Patrick Cantley wouldn't wear the hat because he wasn't

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Speaker 16: getting paid, which was reported by a great many people.

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Speaker 16: And then I think, written by Michael Bamberger, should they

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Speaker 16: get paid? I don't think so. I don't think it's

553
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Speaker 16: asking too much. Well, first of all, they are getting paid.

554
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Speaker 16: So the PGA Tour gets about thirty million dollars a

555
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Speaker 16: year that every year they played the Rider Cup, about

556
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Speaker 16: thirty million dollars a year that they take and put

557
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Speaker 16: into the pension funt of the PGA Tour players, which

558
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Speaker 16: grows tax free for decade for decade for decade for decades.

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Speaker 16: So when you talk about getting paid, they're getting paid

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Speaker 16: large sums of money. It's just deferred until probably when

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Speaker 16: they they'll never need it, but you know later on

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Speaker 16: in their life. And most every single player, well now

563
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Speaker 16: every player on the team would have bonuses probably seven

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Speaker 16: figure bonuses in their contracts should they make the Ryder

565
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Speaker 16: Cup team. So they are getting paid, but directly paid

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Speaker 16: from the PGA of America. I think, look, it's not

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Speaker 16: asking too much of these guys to one week a

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Speaker 16: year to do something for the honor of playing for

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Speaker 16: their country. People would argue, well, the PGA of America

570
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Speaker 16: make money. The PGA of America has thirty thousand plus members,

571
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Speaker 16: in numerable initiatives that they're all trying to fund. All

572
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Speaker 16: of these entities have run these big events, Augusta National,

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Speaker 16: the USGA. They all make money from the events. They

574
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Speaker 16: make a profit, but then they take that money and

575
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Speaker 16: do a lot of great things with it. It's like

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Speaker 16: the PGA of America is not buying ferraris and private

577
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Speaker 16: jets for their executives. They're taking the money and investing

578
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Speaker 16: in junior programs. Every single player on this US team

579
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Speaker 16: was touched by a PGA you know, a PGA professional

580
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Speaker 16: at some point showed them how to put their hands

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Speaker 16: on the club and gave them some reason to pursue

582
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Speaker 16: this game.

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Speaker 5: More app to have another act, Tiger or Phil.

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Speaker 16: Good question, I would say, another act. You mean from

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Speaker 16: a competitive standpoint, on a big stage. I would probably say, Phil,

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Speaker 16: you know, unfortunately Tiger busting his achilles again.

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Speaker 5: I you know, I don't know how you come back.

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Speaker 16: From that at fifty years of age, unless unless Tiger

589
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Speaker 16: decides to write a golf cart on the Champs Tour.

590
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Speaker 16: And I don't know how that would play out in

591
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Speaker 16: the US Senior Open, because Tiger has won three US Juniors,

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Speaker 16: three US Amateurs, and three US Opened. If he were

593
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Speaker 16: to go play, and I guarantee you it's a goal

594
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Speaker 16: of his to go play the US Senior Open and

595
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Speaker 16: win it, but I don't know that he could write

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Speaker 16: a cart in the US Senior Open, which you can

597
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Speaker 16: on the Champs Tour. And I don't know even if

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Speaker 16: they would let him write a card, if he would

599
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Speaker 16: do it, because he has such a strong sense of

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Speaker 16: fairness about him.

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Speaker 5: What about Phil?

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Speaker 16: Look, Phil could pop up at the Masters. You know

603
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Speaker 16: Jack Nicholas finished fifth there when he was fifty eight

604
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Speaker 16: years of age. Phil still bombs it, and Phil still energetic,

605
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Speaker 16: still youthful in his feverish pursuit of this game of golf.

606
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Speaker 16: So yeah, and he won a major at dangian Are

607
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Speaker 16: fifty two years of ag So it wouldn't surprise me.

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Speaker 16: I mean, Phil still acts like a kid again with

609
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Speaker 16: a golf club in his hand.

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Speaker 2: We always talk about decorum in a golf course and

611
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Speaker 2: being quiet and you know, being respectful, but that's out

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Speaker 2: the window this weekend. Can a crowd gallery go too

613
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Speaker 2: far at the Ryder Cup?

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Speaker 16: They could absolutely go too far if they start screaming

615
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Speaker 16: or yelling in guys backswings, you know, let them play.

616
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Speaker 16: I think you know there'll be some people kicked out

617
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Speaker 16: this week for sure. You know, if they start screaming

618
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Speaker 16: and players backswings, if they get profane, you know and personal,

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Speaker 16: you know the whole, you know, there'll be some good

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Speaker 16: jeery out there. And I know the European side has

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Speaker 16: prepared for this, going back to January when they were

622
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Speaker 16: playing in a competition where it was Great Britain and

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Speaker 16: Ireland against Continental Europe. These they do these as sort

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Speaker 16: of previews for Ryder Cups. I think Luke Donald had

625
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Speaker 16: a blaring system of you know, USA, USA, USA, and

626
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Speaker 16: he hired an American comedian to heckle them while they

627
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Speaker 16: were hitting shots. So they've prepared for a hostile environment.

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Speaker 16: I'm just not sure anybody could properly prepare for as

629
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Speaker 16: hostile environment as I think they're going to get this week.

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Speaker 16: If you were watching the opening ceremonies yesterday, the New

631
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Speaker 16: York Governor, I mean, my goodness, I mean the boos

632
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Speaker 16: were a fevered pitch. Got me looking for the decimal

633
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Speaker 16: level record for a stadium, which by the way is

634
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Speaker 16: Arrowhead Stadium. It may reach that level this week.

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Speaker 2: It's just more about the mental aspect of the physical aspect.

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Speaker 16: I think that's a great thing about the Ryder Cup

637
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Speaker 16: is it really does involve everything group dynamics at the

638
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Speaker 16: highest level. How can you get these guys to come

639
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Speaker 16: together as a team and buy into the decisions the captain,

640
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Speaker 16: which you know and I think more than a few

641
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Speaker 16: instances are going to go against the predictions of the players.

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Speaker 16: And then, of course there is the mental aspect of it,

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Speaker 16: because it's monoamano out there, and there'll be some gamesmanship.

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Speaker 16: They're already as in some gamesmanship. Luke Donald, I think

645
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Speaker 16: had a little gamesmanship yesterday in his opening remarks the

646
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Speaker 16: European team out on the range. I don't know if

647
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Speaker 16: it was yesterday or today, but instead of going to

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Speaker 16: one end where the US side could uniformly practice. At

649
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Speaker 16: another end, the European team went right in the middle,

650
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Speaker 16: so the US team had to split up and go

651
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Speaker 16: to either side of them.

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Speaker 17: I mean, that is absolutely gamesmanship by the European team,

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Speaker 17: and so there will be little bitty gamesmanship moments out there,

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Speaker 17: so it certainly becomes a mental test.

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Speaker 5: Good to talk to you. Thank you by the.

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Speaker 16: Way, Rich Learner right at you with a cameo right here.

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Speaker 16: We're in the trailer here, so say I read.

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Speaker 3: Take care.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw Rich. He kept like peeking over Brandle's shoulder. Rich,

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Speaker 2: of course, is the host of Live from the Ryder Cup.

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Speaker 2: You'll be able to watch that Friday through Sunday at

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Speaker 2: Bethpage Black in Farmingdale, New York. I haven't played that

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Speaker 2: course before. I've been invited to play, but it's kind

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Speaker 2: of like Pineher's Number two. I did not enjoy Pinehur's

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Speaker 2: number two. I wasn't a good enough golfer and it

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Speaker 2: was it was just a slog and the greens were

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Speaker 2: so difficult at Pineher's Number two. I mean, it's one

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Speaker 2: of the great courses in the world, but not every

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Speaker 2: course is meant to be played. Where you go, man,

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Speaker 2: I can't wait to go out and get beat up.

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Speaker 2: And that's what happened at Pineher's and Beth Page. They

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Speaker 2: even say death Page Black. It's basically, if you're this

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Speaker 2: kind of handicap, don't even try to do this.

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Speaker 5: Saint Andrews is like that.

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Speaker 2: When you get the first t I think you've got

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Speaker 2: to be a better than a fifteen handicap or they

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Speaker 2: want you to be so that you know they you know,

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Speaker 2: you're going through a lot of people who are going

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Speaker 2: to play a lot of rounds. Therefore you've got to

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Speaker 2: be a certain level so you're not hitting you know,

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Speaker 2: two balls off each te and you're losing a ball

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Speaker 2: and all that. But there's certain courses that they go

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Speaker 2: now you kind of it's like when you ride a

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Speaker 2: ride at disney Land that you have to be this hype.

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Speaker 2: Some of these golf courses want you to be at

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Speaker 2: a certain level.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Pauling is the island hole TPC Sawgrass the seventeenth,

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Speaker 8: the one they always show on TV. Yea when you

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Speaker 8: see that on TV as even a bad golfer. But

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Speaker 8: if you're a decent weekend golfer, I can't imagine the

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Speaker 8: intimidation factor of trying to play that.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's not that intimidating when no one's there, because

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Speaker 2: I played it the first time, I put it in

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Speaker 2: the water. The second time I put it on the green.

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Speaker 2: It's like the twelfth at Augusta. When nobody's there, it's okay,

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Speaker 2: It's just a golf you know. The twelfth hauled Augusta

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Speaker 2: is one forty eight forty nine and first time I

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Speaker 2: put it on, made a birdie putt. Second time put

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Speaker 2: it in the creek. But nobody's there. Augusta is not

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Speaker 2: intimidating when nobody's there. I mean, it's still a great

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Speaker 2: golf course and challenging. But there's certain places where you know,

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Speaker 2: you got everybody packed around sixteen.

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Speaker 5: And you're like, oh my god, I got to get

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Speaker 5: it over the water.

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Speaker 2: Or twelve where everybody's behind you when nobody's there. Okay,

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Speaker 2: But even seventeen at TPC, I mean, it feels like

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Speaker 2: the green starts to shrink the longer you're standing over

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Speaker 2: your ball. On seventeen, it's like, damn, did he get smaller?

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Speaker 2: Because it feels that way. All right, let me take

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Speaker 2: a break.

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Speaker 5: Well, we'll get some more phone calls coming up back

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Speaker 5: after this.

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Speaker 2: Think Brandal Shambley looked a little surprised when I brought

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Speaker 2: up some of the things he said about Bryson to Shambo.

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Speaker 2: You called him a captain's nightmare. You kind of called

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Speaker 2: him out for basically being selfish about his own YouTube

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Speaker 2: channel and not thinking about Ryder Cup.

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Speaker 5: And then he goes, yeah, I.

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Speaker 2: Guess I have still driving that trusty old ride. Keep

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Speaker 2: it looking sharp with Mako from dense to faded paint.

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Speaker 2: They've got you covered. Free estimate today, Ohn, better get Maco,

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Speaker 2: Zach and Knoxville.

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Speaker 5: Welcome back, Zach. What's on your mind?

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Speaker 18: ADP, Thanks for taking my call. I know you're answering

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Speaker 18: all the tough issues these days. So my question to

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Speaker 18: you is at what age do you refer to your

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Speaker 18: child in years instead of months? And just for the record,

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Speaker 18: I am four hundred and fifty three months old.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, thank you, Zach. I think we talked

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Speaker 2: about this. Did we get up to two and a

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Speaker 2: half years? Was that that the number Paul.

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Speaker 8: I think we stopped at eighteen months, eighteen and then

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Speaker 8: you go to two years, three years, four years, if

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Speaker 8: I remember that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I think we discussed that a while ago.

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Speaker 2: Heather in Denver, Hi, Heather.

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Speaker 11: Hi, boys, How are you great? Taking my call? Yeah,

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Speaker 11: it's good to hear your voice.

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Speaker 5: Well, thank you, Heather.

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Speaker 11: Soh uh, I'm that Chicago fan that's gonna say what

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Speaker 11: about my bears. I'm already already seeing that pessimistic fan.

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Speaker 11: Why two and one, we're in a basement.

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Speaker 5: Well, it could be worse.

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Speaker 11: It could be, It could be then, it could be,

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Speaker 11: but I'm ready for it to be worse.

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Speaker 5: Well, I don't.

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Speaker 2: There should be optimism in Chicago. The problem is the

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Speaker 2: expectation level was so high, and I didn't think it

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Speaker 2: was achievable. You're playing in one of the toughest divisions,

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Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, we're going, hey, Caleb's

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Speaker 2: gonna throw forty touchdown passes or you know, we're gonna

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Speaker 2: win the division. Let's take some steps here, gonna take

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Speaker 2: a little while between coach and quarterback and getting everything

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Speaker 2: kind of synced up.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Paul, but Heather's right, it could be worse for

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Speaker 8: the Bears because they're not two and one, they're one

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Speaker 8: and two. So it actually technically is worse than what

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Speaker 8: she was discussing.

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Speaker 2: It is a lot worse than she thought. Yes, Heather,

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Speaker 2: I hate to break the news to you, but your

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Speaker 2: Bears are one in two.

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Speaker 5: You just like that.

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Speaker 8: It got worse during a phone call. Oh games today?

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Speaker 5: Oh sorry, Heather? Thank you?

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Speaker 2: Alan, good point, Paul Allen and Charleston. Hey, Alan, Alan,

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Speaker 2: thank you.

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Speaker 3: Alan.

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Speaker 5: Quick football quiz, Paul.

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Speaker 8: I have a quick football quiz? Marvin? Do we have

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Speaker 8: custom music for that?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 8: Who is the NFL career leader in passing to touchdown?

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Speaker 8: A touchdown to interception ratio? It means lots of touchdowns,

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Speaker 8: few interceptions. Give you a couple of hints. Almost everybody

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Speaker 8: on this list is from two thousand on. They have

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Speaker 8: to have minimum of fifteen hundred career passing attempts.

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Speaker 5: So Aaron Rodgers is number one.

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Speaker 8: Aaron Rodge number one. Everyone knows that he's four point

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Speaker 8: twenty nine. He's a point ahead of everyone else. He's

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Speaker 8: way way better. Can anyone name two, three, four and five?

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Speaker 5: Russell Wilson Junior, the third.

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Speaker 8: Russell Wilson's fifth all time touchdown to interception. A month

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Speaker 8: ago he was fourth. He's dropped off litte. There's one

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Speaker 8: that I don't think people would pull quickly.

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Speaker 5: And how many minimum games are attempts?

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Speaker 8: Fifteen hundred career pass attempts. All the guys are active,

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Speaker 8: Jared Goff Jared Goff's tenth.

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Speaker 2: All the guys are active, all active.

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Speaker 8: The only non active guys in the top ten Tom

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Speaker 8: Brady and eleven. You never guess Colin Kaepernick, Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 8: Mahomes is three match Justin Herbert, Justin Herbert's fourth, number

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Speaker 8: two all time career touchdown to interception ratio.

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Speaker 5: Joe Burrow Burrow sixth.

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Speaker 8: This guy, they questioned his passing coming out of top Marcks.

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Speaker 8: Mark Jackson's correct three point five seven one and seventy

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Speaker 8: five career touchdowns only forty nine career picks is a

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Speaker 8: great passer, according to this.

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Speaker 2: Kelly in Kansas, Hi, Kelly, what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 13: Good mornin, Dan, How are you guys this morning?

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Speaker 5: Great? Kel good?

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Speaker 13: Hey, you know, longtime, not first time? Five to five one.

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Speaker 13: I have a bone to pick with you this morning.

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Speaker 13: Earlier this week you were talking about your wife's book club. Yeah,

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Speaker 13: and you guys got to talking about the cliff notes.

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Speaker 13: My husband now wants to cliff note version of all

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Speaker 13: of my stories.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I'm not laughing, I'm not laughing.

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Speaker 2: Let's use name anyway, Robert, Robert shamed of you.

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Speaker 5: You're better than that.

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Speaker 2: I call him Rob because he's robbing the moment from

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Speaker 2: you of having a great conversation with his wife.

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Speaker 6: What todd People that are speaking long winded fashion can

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Speaker 6: be annoy.

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Speaker 5: I would love to have the cliff cliffs notes.

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Speaker 2: Version of he yeah, you know what, kel just keep talking,

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Speaker 2: you know, just keep talking, don't worry about it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Can you imagine during a long winded story giving your

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Speaker 8: spouse they wrap it up sign that may not go well.

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Speaker 2: Well, I have said, okay, I've said this before, land

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Speaker 2: the plane said it.

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Speaker 5: Yes I have.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you got to be entrenched, well thirty eight years, Yes,

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Speaker 8: you have at least thirty.

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Speaker 5: Like hon, you gotta land the plane.

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Speaker 3: You have a heart break, a heart break coming up.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I got you know, my life. I kind of

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Speaker 2: treat it like it's a radio show. I got han

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Speaker 2: I got to go to break here, I gotta I

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Speaker 2: gotta come back. You know, I got I gotta tease

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Speaker 2: the guests coming up.

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Speaker 7: But Marvin, did your wife ever tell you a story

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Speaker 7: about how she's angry with somebody and then you got

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Speaker 7: to let her know that it's her fault.

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Speaker 2: Away, No, because that's usually what my wife does to me.

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00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 2: Let me tell you again about ESPN. No, No, you're

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00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 2: part of the problem here. The words not everyone gets

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00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 2: your sense of grue. That is true.